[00:39] <tritium> Hello.  I'm guessing the partitioner is common to ubuntu and mythbuntu.  I've tested daily builds 2/16 through 2/22, and I can never get past the partitioner.
[00:40] <tritium> My setup is rather simple: 4 primary partitions (swap, / (ext3), /home (ext3), and /var/lib (XFS), setup manually.
[00:40] <tritium> Unless formatting a 1 TB drive takes longer than 24 hours, in which case I'm just not being patient enough.
[00:41] <tritium> The only way I was able to even run ubiquity today was to first install python-numpy, by the way.
[00:48] <tritium> Even going with the automatic partitioning just hangs.
[07:07] <ara> morning all :)
[08:18] <ara> Remember that today is an Ubuntu Testing Day! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UbuntuTestingDay/20090223
[08:24] <eeejay> ara: I remember!
[08:37] <davmor2> Good Morning All
[08:40] <ara> morning davmor2
[08:42] <eeejay> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/Notification
[08:54] <davmor2> eeejay: What attached program?
[08:54] <ara> eeejay: cool test cases
[08:55] <eeejay> davmor2: Follow "Attachments" link on the top of the wiki page
[08:55] <eeejay> ara: I wrote them before I saw the actual spec, they could use some further work now that I have
[08:56] <ara> eeejay: I was thinking about doing a checkbox + notification-osd testing day next Monday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UbuntuTestingDay/20090302
[08:56] <ara> eeejay: do you want to help?
[08:57] <eeejay> ara: Yes! Henrik told me it would be today, but I am glad it will be next week, don't feel ready yet. The testcases need wrk
[08:58] <davmor2> eeejay: Now the system is actually in Jaunty I think it would be better to tell tester to alter volume etc to trigger the notify-osd but it is a good testcase for what it is worth :)
[08:58] <ara> eeejay: OK. I will talk to Mirco today and I will be announcing the new testing day tomorrow if he agrees
[08:59] <eeejay> davmor2: i agree. although different kinds of notifications should be tested, the volume one just has a giant graphic, need to test the text too
[08:59] <eeejay> davmor2: if you could think of an easy way of bringing up a text notification..
[09:01] <davmor2> eeejay: how about sending an email to yourself? disconnect wifi? I'm not sure what else is plugged into it.
[09:02] <eeejay> davmor2: there used to be a System->Preferences->Notification app
[09:03] <eeejay> davmor2: it was for notification-daemon (what we replaced), but it brought up test notifications
[09:03] <davmor2> eeejay: bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332014
[09:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 332014 in notification-daemon ""Notification Settings" is available but has no effect when Notify OSD is used" [Medium,Triaged]
[09:03] <eeejay> davmor2: your quick!
[09:03] <davmor2> eeejay: spotted it a gbj on friday :)
[09:04] <davmor2> brb breakfast :)
[09:09]  * ara takes a break to prepare coffee
[09:17] <davmor2> back
[09:17] <davmor2> eeejay: What does notify-osd plug into exactly?
[09:18] <eeejay> davmor2: how do you mean?
[09:18] <eeejay> davmor2: notify-osd implements the notification daemon spec, it is a dbus service
[09:19] <ara> already found 2 bugs on screen-profiles as part of the UTD
[09:19] <ara> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/screen-profiles/+bug/333189
[09:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 333189 in screen-profiles "Selecting the plain profile might confuse the user when trying to change the configuration" [Undecided,New]
[09:19] <ara> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/screen-profiles/+bug/333180
[09:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 333180 in screen-profiles "screen-profiles menu appears always I run screen" [Undecided,New]
[09:20] <davmor2> ara: can you add the url for the bugs page to the channel header?
[09:24] <davmor2> eeejay, ara: What I mean is which apps use it sorry.  So one of the instant messaging services do correct? as does evolution (which I've seen in action) Wifi is meant to but I've not seen that yet :( and volume and brightness.  Is that all or are there more?  It might be an idea to have a word with mirco before next week to get a full list of apps that support notify-osd so they can all be tested to ensure that rele
[09:25] <eeejay> davmor2: don't want to take away the attention from screen.. but there is a list here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
[09:31] <davmor2> eeejay: cool so tying the apps currently supported into the test plan is a great way to test notify-osd so an idea might be to use pidgin, evolution, rhythmbox, volume/brightness and wifi which I think would cover pretty much the whole range on text and icons that notify-osd would use is that a fair assumption?
[09:32] <eeejay> davmor2: yup!
[09:34] <eeejay> davmor2: the dillema I have (I am new at test creating), is how do you test collab apps like evolution and pidgin without a willing victim
[09:35] <davmor2> eeejay: the testcases are there for  willing victims that's their job :)
[09:35] <eeejay> it would be nice if we had some sort of bot that would initiate conversations and participate in XMPP
[09:35] <eeejay> ah, but it would take two willing victims!
[09:36] <davmor2> eeejay: or someone with more than one test box I wonder what geek might fall into that category :)
[09:37] <eeejay> i keep on unwillingly starting more and more screen sessions
[10:17] <davmor2> ara: lvm sizing seems to be in place just running through the install to be certain
[10:17] <ara> davmor2: cool
[10:28] <davmor2> ara: ubiquity is screwed today :( so no live cd install tests bug 332978
[10:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 332978 in ubiquity "missing dependency on python-numpy" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332978
[10:29] <ara> davmor2: :(
[10:29] <ara> davmor2: how was the lvm testing?
[10:29] <davmor2> just finished
[10:30] <davmor2> lowered it to 20% so should be much smaller but we will see :)
[10:40] <davmor2> meh fail
[10:45] <davmor2> ara: not having much fun here with 20% resize of lvm
[10:46] <ara> davmor2:  :(
[11:07]  * cjwatson reports for LVM assistance in the testing day as ordered :-)
[12:18] <davmor2> ara: by the looks of it I'll be working with keybuk and cjwatson to fix this lvm issue for a while just to keep you up to date :)
[12:19] <ara> davmor2: is there a bug number?
[12:19] <davmor2> maybe bug 332270
[12:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 332270 in udev "udev repeatedly generates "change" events for the same block device(s)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332270
[12:19] <davmor2> might not be though
[12:20] <davmor2> part of what we're chasing I think
[12:21] <cjwatson> there's something a bit wrong with the LVM size question as well, although by and large I don't think these problems are its fault
[12:44]  * ara -> lunch
[12:54] <bFoor> hey all so im reading the testing day wiki is the a set time for this to start?
[12:59] <davmor2> bFoor: It's started :)
[12:59] <davmor2> just jump in and get involved :)
[14:02] <ara> bFoor: if you have any questions, please, feel free to ask at any time
[14:37] <davmor2> morning cgregan
[14:37] <cgregan> morning davmor2
[15:09] <bFoor> morning all
[15:21] <brunogirin> Hi everybody, I'm trying to do my share testing day by taking UNR for a spin on my EeePC 701 but as it's the first time I do so, I have a newbie question: what essential info would you like to see in a bug report?
[15:22] <charlie-tca> Here is a pretty good layout for the bug report: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Bug-Report-Layout
[15:26] <davmor2> charlie-tca: I know :)
[15:27] <brunogirin> Thanks charlie-tca! Bug report on its way :-)
[15:28] <bFoor> is today for any bug or are they wanting to test certain things?
[15:29] <davmor2> brunogirin: always check to see that there isn't already a report out there that you can add info to rather than creating a new one :)
[15:29] <brunogirin> davmor2: will do
[15:31] <charlie-tca> bFoor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UbuntuTestingDay/20090223#Which%20is%20the%20goal%20for%20this%20testing%20day?
[15:31] <bFoor> Thanks!
[15:41] <bFoor> wow this screen profile thing kicks ass
[15:45] <davmor2> ara: add bugs moving onto something more interesting instead :)
[15:45] <ara> davmor2: hehehe
[15:48] <davmor2> cjwatson: oh by the way see if the lvm removal tool works cleanly for you it locks up for me I knew there was something else
[15:51] <ara> brunogirin: also, cgregan is around, and he is the best person to help you testing the UNR images. Feel free to ask him ;-)
[15:52] <cjwatson> davmor2: which LVM removal tool?
[15:54] <davmor2> cjwatson: in the installer if it spots you have an lvm setup it triggers a screen to remove it even when you select whole drive installs
[15:54] <davmor2> cjwatson: taking a photo now
[15:54] <brunogirin> ara: no problem, all basics are working well so far but I'll ask him if I run into problems
[15:55] <ara> brunogirin: :)
[15:56] <manjo> cr3 ping
[15:56] <cjwatson> davmor2: photos rarely help me
[15:56] <cjwatson> davmor2: just logs will do, assuming the whole machine hasn't locked up
[15:57] <davmor2> it does
[15:57] <cjwatson> not my problem then :-)
[15:57] <cjwatson> whole machine locks up => kernel
[15:58] <davmor2> maybe not I just get a blue screen with grey bar at the bottom
[15:58] <davmor2> but this time it's gone through
[15:58] <cr3> manjo: pong, I have a conference call so I'll repong you in a bit
[15:59] <davmor2> cjwatson: I'll have a play with it after and see if I can get the logs for you :)
[16:00] <cjwatson> davmor2: to tell whether the whole machine has locked up, press Alt-F2
[16:00] <cjwatson> if VT switching works, the kernel is still alive
[16:01] <davmor2> cjwatson: np's will do when I try to recreate it :)
[16:23] <davmor2> ara: you know the screen profiles is that actually necessary?
[16:23] <davmor2> in jaunty?
[16:24] <ara> davmor2: well, it is a new feature. it was agreed as spec + blueprint in the last uds
[16:24] <ara> davmor2: what do you mean by necessary?
[16:24] <ara> davmor2: I think it is very useful
[16:25] <davmor2> can you take a screenshot for me and I'll take one of screen running without profiles
[16:25] <davmor2> ara^
[16:26] <ara> davmor2: sure
[16:27] <davmor2> ara: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/screen.html
[16:28] <ara> davmor2: I sent mine to you by email
[16:28] <davmor2> ara: that's without the sudo apt-get install screen-profiles
[16:29] <davmor2> so they are the same then ponders on the difference between the 2
[16:30] <ara> no, you have the bottom line with information, and you have options to scroll back and create new windows
[16:30] <ara> have you read the test case?
[16:30] <ara> davmor2: it is not a graphical tool, is a text tool
[16:31] <ara> davmor2: gnome terminal remains the same
[16:34] <davmor2> ara: I just checked synaptic screen-profiles is installed by default
[16:35] <davmor2> that's the bit that had been throwing me it's been in by default for a while
[16:35] <davmor2> so the sudo apt-get install screen-profiles is superfluous on jaunty
[16:39] <eeejay> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/CaseAndPlanGuidelines
[16:43] <brunogirin> cgregan: ubiquity crashes when trying to install on EeePC 701 4G with today's USB image build: what can I do to debug and provide more info?
[16:43] <cjwatson> that's known
[16:43] <cjwatson> 'sudo apt-get install python-numpy' first as a workaround
[16:43] <cjwatson> brunogirin: ^-
[16:47] <cgregan> ﻿brunogirin: I'm not sure...at that stage...we are getting any logs.
[16:47] <cjwatson> cgregan: please see what I said above
[16:47] <cgregan> cjwatson: Ah....
[16:48] <cgregan> cjwatson: good
[16:48] <davmor2> cgregan: Then do what I did and gingerly slap ones forehead and say D'oh
[16:49] <cgregan> davmor2: :-)
[16:49] <brunogirin> cgregan: ok, you've got everything that apport collected and some info I added here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+bug/333381 but I'm wondering if there's any more info I can provide such as hardware details, etc
[16:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 333381 in ubiquity "ubiquity crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]
[16:50] <brunogirin> davmor2: done that too :-)
[16:50] <cjwatson> there is no need for further details on that bug
[16:50] <cjwatson> it is not hardware-dependent
[16:50] <davmor2> ara: screen look better on a reboot and drop into console :)
[16:51] <brunogirin> cjwatson: good to know, thanks, I can keep tinkering with other things then
[16:53] <cjwatson> (I've marked it as a duplicate of the relevant master bug now)
[16:55] <davmor2> cjwatson: so tomorrow the lvm hd size and ubiquity will work just need to kick the box till lvm install does too :)
[16:57] <davmor2> yay now I've add openssh-server it works over ssh too :)
[16:59] <davmor2> davmor21: evil twin enters room
[17:26] <davmor2> ara: what do you think to the new media codec installer
[17:31] <davmor2> eeejay: Notifications works well with rhythmbox anyway :)
[17:43] <fuller9box> "The display server has been shut down about 6 times in the last 90 seconds, it is likely that something bad is going on, Waiting for 2mins before trying again"