=== wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla === j1mc is now known as _j1mc [01:22] when using cdrecord with the option tsize= do you have to put an s after the numbers ? [01:46] round circle, (dotted when clicked)upper left corner of each open window, what does it do? [01:49] <_j1mc> s19113i: it takes the app you're working with, and places it onto all of your workspaces. [01:49] Thanks, I would have never figured that one out! [01:50] <_j1mc> s19113i: no problem [01:50] <_j1mc> :) === _j1mc is now known as j1mc [02:06] load 7.04 on a PIII 128Mb RAM 20Gb HD a couple weeks ago [02:06] was pretty snappy [02:07] tried the same thing with 8.10 last week and 8.10 was significantly slower [02:07] Gershwin: 7.04 isn't supported anymore [02:07] would you say that my experience is to be expected? [02:07] given the machien specs--PIII 1GHz, 128Mb RAM, 20Gb HD [02:08] Gershwin: yeah - 8.10 did have a few more gnome-related applications, and the ubuntu-base is a little slower in 8.10 [02:08] 9.04 should be faster than 8.10. [02:08] i understand j1mc, was just curious about performance on dated hardware w/default CD install [02:08] yeah... what you experienced is to be expected. [02:09] thank you j1mc [02:09] you're welcome, Gershwin [02:09] :) [02:09] why is 9.04 supposed to be faster than 8.10? [02:17] i just asked to do 'partial upgrade'. anyone received it as well? === Gershwin is now known as Gershwin[AWAY] === Gershwin[AWAY] is now known as Gershwin [02:31] Is there a way to see what is included in Xubuntu, because I am having a hard time choosing between Debian Xfce and Xubuntu [02:35] Mood: they are doing work to improve boot times in ubuntu for 9.04 === primary is now known as BattleStarJesus [03:12] do any of you know how to change miro settings? [04:05] Is there a way to mount SFTP disk's in Xubuntu/Thunar? [04:20] Does anyone here mount their OSX disks with sshfs? OR similar, I am trying to mount my macbook on Debian using SFTP [04:21] Iradieh: i think you'd need to do it through fuse, but I wouldn't know how to do it exactly. [04:21] eh [04:21] that should give you a bit of a start, though. [04:21] I did [04:22] oh, ok [04:22] no luck? [04:22] seivan@subby:~$ sudo sshfs seivan@192.168.1.2:Desktop/ /home/seivan/sMacBook/ [04:22] read: Connection reset by peer [04:22] No [04:22] :/ === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [08:36] Great Gods of the Xubuntu IRC chat [08:36] how may I query your infinite knowledge [08:37] with another question [08:37] awesome [08:37] ok [08:38] cpuinfo is showing i have 1800 mhz cpu speed [08:38] but system is only running at 1200 [08:38] ive tried a few things but to no avail [08:38] setting the on demand to performance resulted in no change [08:39] very new to linux so i dont really know what to do [08:39] how do you know that the system is running at 1200? [08:39] ill try to paste it here [08:40] please use pastebin [08:40] use a pastebin if it's more than few lines [08:40] !pastebin | allen_ [08:40] allen_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [08:41] paste bin [08:41] never heard of that [08:41] * allen_ doin stuff [08:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/121719/ [08:44] dell inspiron 8200 laptop [08:45] id like to keep the power saving, i just need a little more go juice when im running virtualbox [08:51] hmm... wikipedia says: Running with very low average power consumption and much lower heat output than desktop processors, the Pentium M runs at a lower clock speed than the laptop version of the Pentium 4 (The Pentium 4-Mobile, or P4-M), but with similar performance - a 1.6 GHz Pentium M can typically attain the performance of a 2.4 GHz Pentium 4-M. [08:52] doesn't it have speedstep or similar as well [08:52] not sure its an old ass laptop [08:52] i can run xp pro in virtualbox alright [08:52] its just a little sluggish [08:53] i was hoping those few other cpu cycles might help [08:53] ah, sorry [08:53] it's not pentium-m [08:53] it's Pentium 4-M [08:54] intel makes it confuxing on purpose XD [08:54] also unrelated to the processor speed [08:54] might have to swing by the virtualbox forums [08:54] transfering files via usb to blackberry [08:54] allen_: I'm looking at it, because at one point the name of the processor (1.8Mhz) didn't reflect the actual speed [08:55] allen_: at least not the actual frquency [08:55] ah [08:55] so 1.8 does not = 1.8 operating speed [08:55] allen_: they used other optimizations and then claimed that it 'feels like 1.8' because of that, but I'm not sure this is the case with your particular model [08:56] allen_: can't find any information about that [08:57] i was just wondering if there was a simple way to control throttling === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [15:26] hi [15:28] !hi | slow-motion [15:28] slow-motion: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [15:28] hi charlie-tca [16:15] hello hello. i have xubuntu gutsy with python2.5 installed on it, and for a game, i'd like to also install python 2.4. may i do that without breaking python 2.5? [16:16] i dont know if it'll let you install both.. [16:16] that's my question :) [16:17] on windows, i did it with no problem, but i don't know enough about xubuntu to tell [16:17] doesnt work with python 2.5 ? [16:17] nah, i get mismatch errors like that: [16:18] http://pastebin.mozilla.org/627910 [16:19] wormsxulla: I don't know if it is still possible. I did it in the past, but not recently [16:20] yikes [16:20] any directions you could give before i break everything? :) [16:20] I will look for it. Give me a minute to research [16:20] sure, thank you [16:32] wormsxulla: Should be okay to do it [16:34] charlie-tca: so just using synaptic and choosing python 2.4? will it let me choose a location to install it (i'd like it on my sdhc card if possible, as the hard disk of the eee pc is very crowded [16:35] yes. It should not overwrite the 2.5 and programs should be able to use it. I don't know that it will allow you to chose the location [16:35] wormsxulla, it will install on the / directory [16:35] ggggrrrrrrrrr [16:35] you cannot change the install location with synaptic.... [16:35] could i use apt-get then? (with your help) [16:36] you'd have to compile it by hand, and then add its path [16:36] yikes yikes [16:36] but its small [16:36] ok, so let's go :) [16:36] (gggggrrrr @ synaptic) [16:37] you'd be better off moving you /home (or a portion of it) to your external drive [16:37] i should do that! [16:38] do that and you can synaptic your heart away =] [16:39] hehe :) [16:39] most of my systems only have 5GB or less allocated to the / partition [16:40] that's what i have too, 4gb on the ssd disk and 4gb (still free) on the sdhc card [16:41] <_Pete_> I have both python2.4 / 2.5 installed on my desktop and both from repositories [16:42] cool [16:42] _Pete_, only reason i mentioned compile was because he wanted it in a strange place [16:42] <_Pete_> right [16:42] when it will be installed, will the game automagically find the right python? [16:42] <--- girl [16:42] ok (s)he =] [16:43] vidd: not "a strange place", a "place still available" :) [16:43] * vidd meant "strange" as in "not where linux normally looks for stuff" [16:44] hehe [16:44] i know, i'm strange [16:44] strange is a GOOD thing....wierd is bad =] [16:46] off-topic; i fell in love with the linux australian conference mascot, it's a tasmanian devil plush disguised as a penguin [16:46] that's how strange i ma [16:46] am* [16:46] wormsxulla, what game you trying to use? === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [16:53] connection hickups [17:08] alright, so python2.4-minimal installed with success [17:09] wormsxulla, your game work? [17:10] no, i still get the same exact errors, so i guess "python vroomDemo.py" wasn't able to find the right python version [17:12] i do have python2.4 and python 2.5 in /usr/bin, though :) [17:13] maybe "python2.4 vroomDemo.py" would work? [17:14] much better! [17:14] but not yet :s [17:15] http://pastebin.mozilla.org/627920 is all i get now [17:16] i'll ask in #python-fr about that :) [17:20] wormsxulla, unfortunantly, python is not my cup of tea [17:20] you prefer other animals? ;-) [17:23] hehe [17:26] koalas maybe ? :o [17:28] * charlie-tca prefers llama [17:28] april 2010 then :) [17:28] and then I will be happy? [17:29] dunno [17:29] i'll compete for lobotomized lemur personnaly [17:29] nally* [17:29] w:e [17:29] err, w/e actually * [17:29] hehe [17:29] tired :( [17:57] Quick question, i have a Canon Multipass F60 Print/Copy/Scan that i just was given. anyone have a clue how i can get it to run. i'm currently using Xubuntu Dual Booted on a Inspiron 8500 [17:58] Anyone? [17:59] have you tried the printer setup? [17:59] i currently dont have the CD for the device at all. [18:00] where would Printer Setup be located in the Applications? [18:00] or is is under a special menu? === Southside_Cortez is now known as PrntError [18:04] ? [18:05] PrntError, its in the settings menu [18:06] in printer configuration? [18:07] if you cant find it, open terminal and type system-config-printer [18:08] * vidd does not see "printer configuration" in the settings menu =[ [18:08] depends on the version of Xubuntu [18:08] latest one from Ubuntu website [18:09] 8.04, 8.10, 9.04? [18:09] PrntError, since your stuff and mine are different, just open teriminal and type system-config-printer [18:09] and if it says "not found" instrall it! [18:09] installing it is the issue [18:10] it's on currently and plugged into a USB port [18:10] sudo apt-get install system-config-printer [18:10] same way you install any linux app [18:11] Package system-config-printer is not available, but is referred to by another package. [18:11] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [18:11] is only available from another source [18:11] However the following packages replace it: [18:12] system-config-printer-gnome system-config-printer-common [18:12] E: Package system-config-printer has no installation candidate [18:12] !paste [18:12] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [18:12] is what came up in T [18:12] sorry bout that' [18:12] install the -gnome then [18:13] or, rather run it as it should already be installed [18:13] 1 tidbit to add in i'm completely new to Linux in general [18:15] !paste [18:15] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [18:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/121983/ [18:16] that's what came up [18:19] PrntError, so it is already installed.... [18:19] just run it (dro the "sudo apt-get install" [18:20] dro ? [18:20] drop [18:21] when i go to print something it will only let me print to file [18:21] it's not listed. [18:21] Canon MultiPASS F60 [18:21] run the printer setup utility! [18:22] where is that located? [18:23] i thought we just went over this! [18:24] i typed everything you told me and it didn't install anything. [18:24] Hi all. [18:24] PrntError, type system-config-printer-gnome [18:25] !hi | dojero [18:25] dojero: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [18:25] bash: system-config-printer-gnome: command not found [18:25] I've just been trying out xfmedia (I've used vlc for a long time). [18:25] PrntError, it didnt install anything because the printer configuration tool is already installed...now you just have to RUN the tool [18:26] ? [18:26] Can anyone tell me about keys that can be used in xfmedia? [18:26] Like volume control? [18:26] where do i go to run said tool. :( i' sorry for being a pain. [18:26] Space bar works for pause. And up and down arrows seem to either slow or speed up the video. [18:27] Right and left arrows move forward and reverse. [18:27] PrntError, in terminal.... [18:27] But I can't find a volume key. [18:27] i'm in Term' what do i type to run it? [18:28] dojero: We don't install it. Maybe ask on #xfce [18:28] hit the up arrow key until the "sudo apt-get .... " line comes up...... [18:28] i have Xubuntu 8.10 btw [18:28] PrntError, remove the "sudo apt-get install" [18:28] hit enter [18:28] pastebin the results [18:28] Thanks charlie-tca. I'll check there. I don't need to make the switch to xfmedia, but it doesn't look bad to me. [18:29] remove the sudo apt-get install? [18:29] right [18:29] what do you mean? [18:30] use the delete/backspace key and arrows to select and remove "sudo apt-get install" [18:31] ok? [18:31] so just delete the line and type in what? [18:31] not the line [18:31] the WORDS [18:31] so now there's no command at all. [18:32] !paste [18:32] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [18:33] i pasted my entire terminal [18:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/121987/ [18:33] Print settings in 8.10 is in Applications -> Settings -> Printing [18:34] it's connected to USB and it's not coming up in the Menu for Printing when i select New Printer [18:35] it's USB but the option to select USB isn't appearing [18:36] Do other USB devices work? Did you try all the USB ports? sometimes changing the port you plugged into helps [18:37] if the printer configuration tool is not helping....its outside my ability (this is why i only use HP printers---they are the ppl that MAKE CUPS) [18:37] this printer was given to me. NOT my choice TRUST ME lol [18:38] my USB mouse works. in every usb port and i'm plugging the printer into another port now. [18:38] Some of the ports have higher power than others [18:38] is the printer plugged into the wall? [18:38] it's on and everything [18:39] pastebin the output for lsusb [18:39] Green Lights on printer. [18:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/121988/ [18:41] you have a usb hub? [18:41] no. [18:41] 2 ports in the back of the dell laptop [18:41] i'm on Inspiron 8500 [18:42] there are 4 usb slots? [18:42] only 2. [18:43] i dont know why it shows 4 diff bus. [18:43] strange.... [18:43] installed xubuntu 3 days ago [18:43] i dont suppose your printer is net-enabled? [18:44] (has a NIC) [18:44] don't think so. it looks older than me [18:44] i tried it in XP but the website's drivers dont even work on XP when they say there for XP [18:45] maybe the printer doesn't work? [18:45] if the thing wont work on XP with XP drivers....its quite possible the pinter (or usb cord) is broke [18:47] it came up in the Auto Installation Wizard when you plug something in. [18:47] name of it and everything [18:47] i'll try a diff cable though i have extra [18:47] PrntError, just out of curiosity...what happens when you press the "scan" button? [18:47] That only means windows detected the usb device, not that it actually works [18:48] i cannot change language with alt_shift.what should i do? [18:48] alt-shift changes language? [18:48] well when i click scan that button lights up and says it's in scan mode. THEN i click Start but nothing.. [18:48] maybe busted.... [18:49] i hate hand me down electronics [18:49] in windows changes.in xubuntu? [18:49] use the "language" applet [18:49] where i should go? [18:50] thanks anyway. thank you everyone for your help [18:50] right-click on a panel...add....[name of language switching applet] [18:51] you mean language support? [18:51] * charlie-tca needs a coffee break now [18:51] tbh...i only know english...so i havent played with it [18:52] which panel? [18:52] hi guys [18:52] i've problem with installation of xubuntu 8.10 in my ibook G4 [18:53] the cdrom is not detectred [18:53] during installation [18:53] vidd can you help me? [18:54] enoztlane, where ever you want the applet to be [18:54] what should i do analytically [18:54] someone could help me? [18:54] steve`rogers, is your ibook PPC or Intel? [18:54] ppc [18:54] vidd please help [18:55] steve`rogers, use the PPC version [18:55] vidd I'm using that [18:55] enoztlane, you need to install the language switching panel app you want to use [18:55] vidd: I've this [18:55] xubuntu-8.10-alternate-powerpc.iso [18:56] how can i do that? [18:56] steve`rogers, did you set bios to boot from cd? [18:56] vidd: yes, cd boot [18:56] enoztlane, have you LOOKED into the panel apps? [18:56] no [18:56] vidd: but after configure keyboard the installation doesn't find cdrom device [18:56] steve`rogers, ah [18:57] the only thing i find is language support [18:59] vidd: what do you think could be the problem? [19:01] sorry guys.... [19:02] had to step away for a sec [19:02] steve`rogers, i believe there is a known issue with the cd rom detection failing...but i dont know the cause or cure [19:03] enoztlane, try selecting the language support panel app and see if it does what you expect [19:03] vidd: oh, [19:03] ok.see you guys i cannot find a solution [19:04] vidd: is possible to find this issue? [19:04] enoztlane, i know there is a solution [19:04] i just dont know it myself [19:04] cody-somerville had suggested you go to #ubuntu-installer [19:05] yes done [19:05] the PPC is no longer "officially" supported...and I have never personally laid hands on a MAC [19:06] ah :( [19:06] maybe some old version of xubuntu could work? [19:06] i believe 6.06 was the last official supported [19:06] http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0217092samsung1.html [19:06] I mean xubuntu... [19:07] not ubuntu [19:07] there is a direct upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 [19:07] steve`rogers, do the sever install first [19:07] of course this is xubuntu isn't it steve`rogers [19:08] how can I do server install? [19:08] debian was just released its ppc port is supported, and will be relatively up to date [19:08] with the alt cd, choose "cli-only" [19:09] ok I try [19:10] vidd: cli-powerpc is ok? [19:10] yes [19:10] once it is installed....run the gauntlet of updates [19:10] vidd: what's does it means "cli" ? [19:10] go from 6.06 to 8.04 [19:11] cli = Command Line Interface [19:11] then go 8.04 to 8.10 [19:11] then install the desktop environment [19:11] I've choosen cli, but same problem [19:11] with the 6.06 install disk? [19:12] yes [19:12] that was a quick download and burn [19:12] I've it burned [19:14] then im out of ideas [19:14] I'm retrying with 8.10 [19:15] /dev/cdrom it says is not good [19:15] but i don't know where is cd [19:15] what did -installer say? [19:15] ls /dev don't reveal anything [19:17] steve`rogers, have you looked http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=133? [19:18] now check === wormsxulla_ is now known as worms_food [19:49] steve`rogers, any luck? [19:49] vidd: not now, how can I check the integrity of image? [19:50] steve`rogers, when you boot, there should be an option to "check cd for defects" [19:59] In Ubuntu.......I can right click an icon and select "Add to Panel".......but i've seem to lose that functionality in Xubuntu, anybody know the work around? [20:00] click add a launcher and fill in the blocks [20:00] Xubuntu does not have the quick add thing [20:02] Oh, click on the Panel, add new items, Launcher [20:10] sweet! thanks charlie-tca ... hmm, what's the command to open terminal..........terminal nor sh works [20:11] hello hello. i have file-roller installed, and synaptic says it supports .7z files, but it actually doesn't see them as archives [20:11] brandon6: xfce4-terminal [20:11] sick! thanks charlie-tca [20:11] You are welcome [20:12] charlie-tca do you know if xubuntu 8.10 image for ppc has some bug? I've problem during installation, can't detect cd device [20:12] hello all [20:12] all to have a good night [20:13] for christmas [20:13] let it snow let it snow [20:13] steve`rogers: I don't know of any off the top of my head. If you file it on launchpad, it will get linked if it is a duplicate [20:13] rocko: NOOOOO snow here, please [20:14] charlie-tca where yo ufrom? [20:14] Boise, Idaho, USA [20:15] charlie-tca: yes we can :D [20:15] YES WE CAN OBAMA [20:16] worms_food: did you install p7zip ? You might need it to handle .7z files [20:16] lets keep politics out of this! [20:16] ok vidd [20:17] worms_food: looks like it should be p7zip-full [20:18] charlie-tca: yes, i'm installing it right now, thank you [20:19] You are welcome [20:19] :) you're always helpful [20:19] When I am not wrong, anyway. [20:19] heh [20:21] it works now, at least file-roller sees the archive [20:22] Yeah, we don't install all the format files, to save resources [20:28] stupid question: how do you enter a file name which has a space (e.g. second game.py) in command line. "second game.py" with quotation marks? [20:28] yes [20:28] or second\ game.py [20:28] That or second\ game.py [20:28] or 'second game.py' [20:28] Gaaa [20:28] LOL [20:28] oh :) [20:28] thanks all! [20:29] worms_food: use tab-completion [20:29] worms_food: type the beginning and press tab [20:29] nice trick to know! [20:29] worms_food: it also works with package names with apt-get and many otehr places [20:29] even on irc [20:30] If you have a bunch of similarly named files, pressing tab twice will list all matches to what you have, worms_food. [20:31] TheSheep does that work in the package managers and what not? I have not thought to try it. [20:31] * Pres-Gas tries [20:32] Yep, sho do. [20:32] it even works with remote files with scp [20:32] hehe [20:33] unveiled secrets! [20:33] next will be 'apt-get moo' [20:34] this brings TheSheep to every computer? ;) [20:34]