| spm | MTecknology: go for it | 00:00 |
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| MTecknology | spm: thanks | 00:01 |
| MTecknology | spm: last question I think..... https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-drupal-themes/ubuntu-drupal-themes/6.x bazaar is still lp:loco-drupal/6.x | 00:05 |
| spm | MTecknology: hmmmm. interesting. mwhudson jml ^^ - context: the project was renamed from memory - would that account for that? | 00:06 |
| MTecknology | spm: I just took the branch and reassigned it to that team/project | 00:07 |
| * jml needs more context | 00:07 | |
| jml | MTecknology: loco-drupal was renamed to ubuntu-drupal-themes, but the branch for 6.x is still showing the wrong alias -- is that right? | 00:08 |
| mwhudson | spm: the branch is set for this series https://edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal/6.x | 00:08 |
| MTecknology | jml: nope - loco-drupal wasn't renamed | 00:08 |
| MTecknology | jml: hrm... you could rename it to that instead?? but you'd need to drop ubuntu-drupal-themes and rename loco-drupal to ubuntu-drupal-themes | 00:09 |
| jml | I cannot. | 00:10 |
| jml | MTecknology: what I meant to ask is, why is it a bug for you that https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-drupal-themes/ubuntu-drupal-themes/6.x is still lp:loco-drupal/6.x | 00:10 |
| MTecknology | jml: loco-drupal is a collection of themes and modules. We're trying to separate things and change the names. | 00:11 |
| jml | MTecknology: so, that branch doesn't belong to loco-drupal any more? | 00:11 |
| MTecknology | nope | 00:11 |
| MTecknology | ubuntu-drupal-themes | 00:11 |
| spm | ah. apologies. I misunderstood the problem. | 00:11 |
| jml | MTecknology: ok. Are you a member of loco-drupal? | 00:11 |
| MTecknology | ya, I'm the highest contributer too | 00:12 |
| MTecknology | I can just drop the series, can't I? | 00:12 |
| jml | MTecknology: yeah, go to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal/6.x and drop the branch from the series. | 00:12 |
| MTecknology | jml: thanks :) | 00:13 |
| jml | MTecknology: np | 00:13 |
| wgrant | If I have ghost revisions in a branch on LP, how do I push the real ones once I've run fetch-ghosts in a local branch? | 00:25 |
| jml | wgrant: I don't know, but I *think* the answer would be the same for any Bazaar server. | 00:30 |
| jml | wgrant: which is to say, ask #bzr :) | 00:30 |
| wgrant | jml: Oops, true, sorry. | 00:30 |
| jml | wgrant: np at all. | 00:31 |
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| wgrant | jml: OK, now a real Launchpad question. There is no way to seal off a branch, is there? Say it's merged, and I want to make it unwritable because it's done. | 00:34 |
| jml | wgrant: Launchpad doesn't provide such a thing, no. | 00:35 |
| jml | wgrant: you could change the owner to ~wgrant, which would restrict the set of people who could write to it. | 00:35 |
| wgrant | jml: Of course, but changing its URL doesn't seem ideal. | 00:36 |
| jml | *nod* | 00:36 |
| wgrant | Does it ever make sense to write to a Merged/Abandoned branch? | 00:36 |
| jml | wgrant: yes. | 00:36 |
| jml | wgrant: in the case of Merged, it makes sense if you need to add something that you forgot to add. | 00:36 |
| wgrant | Then it's not merged any more. | 00:37 |
| jml | wgrant: e.g. my fix-bug-235711 branch might have added a typo. | 00:37 |
| jml | wgrant: exactly. | 00:37 |
| jml | wgrant: similarly, deciding that work should be resumed on an Abandoned branch is a perfectly cromulent use case | 00:38 |
| wgrant | So codehosting server should tell you that you are wrong, and cannot write to a Merged branch. | 00:38 |
| jml | wgrant: I guess you're suggesting that in those cases, someone ought to change the status on Launchpad? | 00:38 |
| wgrant | Because it is clearly not Merged once you write to it. | 00:38 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 00:38 |
| jml | wgrant: I'm not sure I like that. | 00:38 |
| wgrant | It should reject write requests, and tell you to change it to a status where writing to it makes sense and isn't going to result in changes getting lost. | 00:38 |
| jml | I'm not sure I dislike it either. | 00:38 |
| MTecknology | jml: Is it possible to drop a milestone | 00:39 |
| MTecknology | ? | 00:39 |
| jml | MTecknology: no idea. | 00:39 |
| wgrant | jml: What is there to dislike about it, other than the slight inconvenience? | 00:41 |
| jml | wgrant: the inconvenience is my foremost concern. | 00:41 |
| wgrant | IMO it's less inconvenient than losing changes because somebody happens to have a checkout of a slightly-too-old branch. | 00:42 |
| jml | wgrant: and the possible confusion that might arise from making status more than merely descriptive | 00:42 |
| jml | wgrant: huh? | 00:42 |
| wgrant | True. | 00:42 |
| jml | wgrant: so, I rarely checkout remote branches, but I'm pretty sure that bzr doesn't let you commit to one that's out of date. | 00:43 |
| wgrant | jml: It doesn't. But it's not out of date; it's just merged and hidden from all listings. | 00:43 |
| MTecknology | spm: anyone around to approve a license? | 00:44 |
| jml | wgrant: ok, now you've definitely lost me. how does allowing merged branches to be written to lead to data loss for people with checkouts of slightly-too-old branches? | 00:44 |
| wgrant | jml: s/slightly-too-old/very recently merged/, sorry. | 00:45 |
| spm | MTecknology: can you shoot an answer in? just in the middle of a fail atm | 00:45 |
| MTecknology | oh, ok - thanks | 00:45 |
| MTecknology | spm: Should I file question for dropping ubuntu-drupal instead of the deactivated status? | 01:12 |
| spm | MTecknology: please. where 'drop' == rename the deactivated one, typically. | 01:13 |
| MTecknology | ok | 01:14 |
| MTecknology | spm: I can do that from now on :) | 01:14 |
| spm | MTecknology: fyi. deleteing entire has issues like (I believe) zotting any karma you've earnt from that project, hence the disable/rename - or so I understand things :-) | 01:14 |
| MTecknology | oh | 01:14 |
| MTecknology | the script that calculates karma doesn't go though every single thing every single time, does it? | 01:15 |
| spm | I think so. I have observed that karma value/scoring has been tweaked in the past to account for 'abuse' and similar. | 01:17 |
| spm | certainly it eats buckets of memory on our servers when it runs ;-D | 01:17 |
| MTecknology | I bet | 01:18 |
| MTecknology | I'd have assumed it would be different, but the way I'm thinking would eat up more storage space, but be faster | 01:18 |
| exarkun | How do you add multiple attachments to a ticket at a time? | 01:21 |
| MTecknology | spm: Maybe you know this - How often does the script run that syncs @ubuntu.com aliases for ubuntu members? | 01:23 |
| spm | MTecknology: I don't know, sorry. You'd be better off asking in #canonical-sysadmin. but not atm. they're all pretty much afk for a few hours. | 01:26 |
| MTecknology | spm: Could you please rename ubuntu-drupal for me? | 01:27 |
| spm | MTecknology: done | 01:28 |
| MTecknology | thanks :) | 01:28 |
| spm | np | 01:35 |
| wgrant | Should the codehosting SFTP server be giving me errors with its internal filesystem paths? | 01:49 |
| mwhudson | no | 01:49 |
| mwhudson | but it's a known bug | 01:49 |
| mwhudson | which is private for some stupid reason | 01:50 |
| wgrant | LP likes having private bugs for even the slightest implementation detail, at times. | 01:51 |
| mwhudson | we're not exactly consistent | 01:53 |
| jml | wgrant: *I* like having private bugs for implementation details. | 01:53 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/270076 | 01:53 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 270076 in launchpad-bazaar "Translate paths back to virtual paths when handling errors in vfs transports" [Medium,Triaged] | 01:53 |
| jml | wgrant: it's much easier to make a private thing public than it is to make a public thing private. | 01:53 |
| wgrant | jml: But it's also much more useless to have a private bug. | 01:55 |
| wgrant | Although I guess this stuff is staying private (grr), so there is more reason than for other components. | 01:55 |
| MTecknology | hrmI got 13 :) | 02:22 |
| MTecknology | Can I take one blueprint and move it to a different project? | 02:24 |
| MTecknology | 20* | 02:25 |
| MTecknology | sorry, I'm tired and getting the wrong window for those two odd ones | 02:26 |
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| AlexC_ | hi there, | 17:06 |
| AlexC_ | I've been searching for ages (well over a week now) and I just can not find out how to let another person, or team, access to upload new translations - is it at all possible with Launchpad? | 17:07 |
| AlexC_ | current it is a pain, since only I can manage the translations files | 17:07 |
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| danilos | AlexC_: you should be able to change the PO template owner (and make it a team or another person) using "Change details" link | 17:13 |
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| AlexC_ | danilos: thank you very much =) | 17:16 |
| danilos | AlexC_: you are welcome, I am sorry that this is so confusing | 17:17 |
| AlexC_ | danilos: I would have thought you'd set it for translations as a whole - much like you have a bug/security contact | 17:18 |
| danilos | AlexC_: yeah, that would make a lot of sense, we should probably do it :) | 17:19 |
| AlexC_ | if you do, I give cookies to all | 17:19 |
| danilos | AlexC_: btw, everybody should be able to upload translations, this is just for POT files | 17:21 |
| AlexC_ | danilos: indeed, that is what I am referring to | 17:21 |
| danilos | AlexC_: well, unless you are using non-Open translation and a translation group, when people will have to be part of the translation group first | 17:21 |
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| yann2 | hi | 18:00 |
| yann2 | launchpad maintenance? | 18:00 |
| mars | hi yann2 | 18:00 |
| * mars checks | 18:00 | |
| yann2 | I get the "please be patient" on http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~digisite-dev/digisite/head/files/4 and other pages | 18:01 |
| yann2 | worked a second ago :) | 18:01 |
| yann2 | ah - and works again :s | 18:01 |
| yann2 | mistery then sorry for bothering :) | 18:01 |
| mars | yann2, heh, no problem :) | 18:01 |
| mars | thanks for letting us know though | 18:02 |
| yann2 | maybe it was just slow for a second and the load balancer got impatient, who knows | 18:03 |
| yann2 | anyway - gotta go. Have a nice evening :) | 18:04 |
| mars | you to | 18:04 |
| thekorn | hi, is it possible to subscribe myself to a page on help.launchpad.net? | 18:37 |
| beuno | thekorn, yes, just slap on the end of the URL: ?action=subscribe | 18:37 |
| beuno | of course, it is a bug we (I) need to fix in the theme | 18:38 |
| mars | thekorn, or check the "More Actions" dropdown in the upper right | 18:38 |
| beuno | it has been reported and is on my conscious | 18:38 |
| thekorn | wow, ok this url hack worked | 18:38 |
| beuno | I know, I use it frequently ;) | 18:39 |
| mars | beuno, do you not have a "Subscribe User" option in the "More Actions" dropdown? | 18:42 |
| beuno | mars, ah, I do! | 18:42 |
| beuno | I guess I'm not used to being "the user" :) | 18:42 |
| thekorn | but this "subscribe user" in the more actions dropdown is a restricted option, | 18:59 |
| thekorn | I'm not allowed to perform this action | 18:59 |
| mars | thekorn, and I assume you are logged in? | 19:00 |
| thekorn | mars, yes, I'm logged in | 19:00 |
| mars | strange. beuno ^ looks like the dropdown option only works for admins maybe? | 19:01 |
| beuno | mars, could be. Moin is weird | 19:01 |
| thekorn | FWIW, It is also not working on wiki.ubuntu.com for me | 19:01 |
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| MTecknology | Why do I have two branches listed twice here? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-drupal-themes | 19:25 |
| mars | MTecknology, not sure, I'll see if one of the codehosting guys is around | 19:29 |
| MTecknology | thanks | 19:32 |
| MTecknology | mars: is there anyone around that could drop the rename launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-themes to launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-theme? just dropping the s on the project | 19:33 |
| mwhudson | MTecknology: i guess the answer to that is "a bug" :) | 19:35 |
| MTecknology | mwhudson: oh, should I report it? | 19:35 |
| mwhudson | MTecknology: yes please | 19:36 |
| MTecknology | mwhudson: short and sweet :) 333988 | 19:39 |
| mars | MTecknology, nobody is around at the moment for the project rename - have you posted it in Answers? | 19:40 |
| MTecknology | mars: yup | 19:42 |
| MTecknology | mars: I have a list of crap I asked to have done | 19:43 |
| savvas | everyone does :) | 19:43 |
| MTecknology | savvas: mine is large, I might make someone upset when they read it | 19:44 |
| savvas | hehe ok | 19:44 |
| MTecknology | savvas: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/62115 | 19:44 |
| mars | MTecknology, I've passed that question on to the LOSAs. It should be in their queue now. | 19:47 |
| savvas | I see :P | 19:47 |
| MTecknology | mars: thanks | 19:54 |
| MTecknology | savvas: is that you? | 19:56 |
| savvas | MTecknology: where? | 19:57 |
| MTecknology | idk - nevermind ;) | 19:57 |
| savvas | ? :P | 19:57 |
| * MTecknology wanders off | 19:58 | |
| savvas | ok heh | 19:59 |
| MTecknology | savvas: I was just thinking you were in the LOSAa team | 20:00 |
| savvas | MTecknology: I'm probably not, I don't know what LOSA is :D | 20:02 |
| MTecknology | mars: I hope you guys don't mind when I just answer something sitting there that's pretty easy. | 20:17 |
| mars | MTecknology, I'm glad for the help :) | 20:18 |
| MTecknology | mars: If I overstep my answers, feel free to slap me :) | 21:08 |
| MTecknology | On a side note, does anyone have any idea how much hard drive space Launchpad eats up? | 21:08 |
| MTecknology | between bazaar, databases, source, etc | 21:09 |
| mars | MTecknology, no idea. We are running postgres on 128GB of RAM though. | 21:10 |
| mwhudson | MTecknology: "lots" | 21:11 |
| mars | :) | 21:11 |
| mwhudson | probably a few Tb all told | 21:11 |
| MTecknology | wait - what? | 21:11 |
| MTecknology | 128GB... | 21:11 |
| MTecknology | is that possible? | 21:12 |
| mars | Some of our devs are real Postgres fans - they've talked to the Postgres dev group about what we're doing. | 21:13 |
| mars | from what I've heard, nobody's tried it before. | 21:13 |
| MTecknology | or do you mean something like 16 servers running 8GB RAM ?? | 21:13 |
| mwhudson | nope :) | 21:15 |
| MTecknology | one server running 128GB RAM? | 21:15 |
| mwhudson | yes | 21:15 |
| mwhudson | there was a cpython bug report years ago from some dude who had 300 gigs attached to his machine :) | 21:16 |
| MTecknology | I didn't know that was even possible | 21:16 |
| mwhudson | i guess you just need enough slots on the mobo, right? | 21:16 |
| MTecknology | I meant as far as the kernel goes | 21:16 |
| MTecknology | I assume that's a 64bit OS at minimum then :P | 21:17 |
| mars | the kernel can address, what now? 4TB or something? | 21:17 |
| mars | some trivia that, as a normal user, I never expect to encounter for at least 2 years. | 21:18 |
| MTecknology | 32bit has a max of 4GB, doesn't it? | 21:18 |
| LarstiQ | MTecknology: "oops, we were only actually using 3 of our 128GB" ;) | 21:18 |
| MTecknology | heh | 21:18 |
| MTecknology | you guys blow me away | 21:18 |
| LarstiQ | MTecknology: yes, but it's even less that's addressable for userspace usually | 21:18 |
| MTecknology | I suppose you need a lot more when you start running karma scripts and such | 21:19 |
| MTecknology | so it's mostly just there for expansion then? | 21:20 |
| MTecknology | I think I'd pee myself if I ever was given access to a sytem like that :P | 21:21 |
| spm | MTecknology: mwhudson: to be slightly pedantic. we have > 1 DB servers with 128Gb of RAM | 21:32 |
| MTecknology | spm: eache? | 21:33 |
| spm | well yes. not much point being replicas if they can't handle the full load :-) | 21:34 |
| MTecknology | wow | 21:34 |
| MTecknology | mars: sorry, I forgot you can reassign a question | 21:46 |
| mars | MTecknology, no problem - not sure if you could do so without admin rights | 21:46 |
| MTecknology | looks like I can | 21:47 |
| MTecknology | mars: I suppose it's going to be a little bit before someone gets the ambition to hit mine? :P | 21:48 |
| mars | MTecknology, alas, I don't know. It shouldn't be too long. | 21:50 |
| MTecknology | spm: Do you know the answer, or where I can get the answer? My Ubuntu membership was approved on Thursday(Fri0300). I've been getting really excited for my ubuntu email addy, but I still don't have it. Do you know when that script runs? | 21:50 |
| spm | MTecknology: I don't know the answer myself. generally ask that sort of Q in #canonical-sysadmin. my quick googlefu suggests 2 days: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail so unless you have funkies that broke stuff, I'd imagine is live? | 22:21 |
| wgrant | MTecknology: #canonical-sysadmin is useful for that. | 22:22 |
| MTecknology | spm: could you try to send something to it? maybe I'm just screwing up | 22:29 |
| MTecknology | spm: nvm - looks like it's finally working :D | 22:33 |
| spm | sweet | 22:37 |
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| wgrant | mars: Can I convince Launchpad to drop its HTTP mirror of my branch and try again? | 22:45 |
| wgrant | The HTTP version seems to have corrupted itself somewhere along the line. | 22:45 |
| mars | mwhudson, ^ ? | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: changing the format on your end is one way, though it's a bit obscure | 22:46 |
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| wgrant | mwhudson: It's 1.6.1-rich-root at the moment; can I drop it to an earlier rich root version and bring it back? | 22:46 |
| mars | I'm done for the evening, have to go take care of the kids and supper. | 22:47 |
| mars | Good night all | 22:47 |
| wgrant | Night mars. | 22:47 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: yes | 22:47 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Thanks. | 22:47 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: or go to --1.9-rich-root and back | 22:47 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: True. | 22:48 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: or just plain delete the branch and start again, unless it has metadata associated with it | 22:48 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: It has things stacked on it, unfortunately. | 22:48 |
| mwhudson | ah | 22:48 |
| mwhudson | ugh | 22:48 |
| mwhudson | we need a better answer for this | 22:48 |
| mwhudson | i'm sure there's a bug report about it... | 22:48 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: I'll have to explicitly upgrade the remote repo, won't I? | 22:50 |
| mwhudson | yeah | 22:50 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: another option is to get a losa to blow the existing branch away, that might actually be easier | 22:50 |
| wgrant | spm: Is that easier? | 22:50 |
| spm | wgrant: not for me. But for you yes, ;-) | 22:51 |
| wgrant | spm: Heh. Will you do it? | 22:51 |
| spm | wgrant: sure, was just going to ask, which branch etc? | 22:51 |
| wgrant | spm: That is a good point you have there. | 22:51 |
| wgrant | lp:~wgrant/ivle/trunk-mirror | 22:51 |
| wgrant | Do I then have to requestMirror() again to get it to mirror? | 22:53 |
| mwhudson | someone will have to | 22:53 |
| mwhudson | if you have a script ready to go, that's probably nice and easy | 22:54 |
| wgrant | I do. | 22:54 |
| mwhudson | cool | 22:54 |
| spm | mwhudson: to confirm. this is zot the codehost/push-branch on crowberry right? | 22:55 |
| mwhudson | spm: no, it's zot the mirrored one | 22:55 |
| spm | cool | 22:55 |
| mwhudson | oh, it's a hosted branch, that's easier (for me) to trigger a mirror on | 22:56 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 22:56 |
| spm | mwhudson: zotted, all yours | 23:07 |
| mwhudson | me waits for the next * | 23:08 |
| spm | ... to wish upon? | 23:09 |
| mwhudson | in cron syntax | 23:09 |
| mwhudson | hm | 23:10 |
| wgrant | spm: Thanks. | 23:10 |
| mwhudson | branch still not happy :( | 23:10 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Odd, I can check it out over bzr+ssh and check and reconcile are happy... | 23:11 |
| mwhudson | hm | 23:11 |
| spm | was mirrors/00/00/88/7b - that is the right one?? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~wgrant/ivle/trunk-mirror/.bzr/ergasdf suggests it is. ? | 23:11 |
| mwhudson | i'd have thought so | 23:12 |
| wgrant | spm: That number looks right. | 23:12 |
| mwhudson | spm: can you look in the upload.log ? | 23:12 |
| spm | sure, one sec | 23:12 |
| spm | mwhudson: 2009-02-24 23:01:06 INFO Mirroring branch 34939: lp-hosted:///~wgrant/ivle/trunk-mirror to lp-mirrored:///~wgrant/ivle/trunk-mirror | 23:13 |
| spm | ~ 12 mins ago? | 23:13 |
| spm | ie before, I zotted the files | 23:14 |
| mwhudson | hmmm | 23:14 |
| mwhudson | has the puller run since then | 23:14 |
| wgrant | spm: There would have been a push a minute before that, but it shouldn't have had any new revisions. | 23:15 |
| spm | mwhudson: which puller? the mirror one? | 23:16 |
| mwhudson | spm: no, upload | 23:16 |
| spm | Oooo! it just went: 2009-02-24 23:16:06 INFO Mirroring branch 34939: lp-hosted:///~wgrant/ivle/trunk-mirror to lp-mirrored:///~wgrant/ivle/trunk-mirror | 23:16 |
| mwhudson | ahh, seems happier now indeed | 23:16 |
| spm | mwhudson: we need to do something about all these "puller" names ;-) | 23:17 |
| wgrant | Yay, even LH is happy now. | 23:17 |
| mwhudson | yeah | 23:17 |
| wgrant | Thanks spm, mwhudson. | 23:17 |
| spm | wgrant: lies. LH is never happy unless it's just been restarted. :-P | 23:17 |
| wgrant | Heh. | 23:17 |
| wgrant | It crashed on r1100 before. | 23:17 |
| * wgrant is waiting for the day when we are allowed to move trunk to bzr... | 23:19 | |
| mwhudson | wgrant: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/253127 | 23:20 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 253127 in launchpad-bazaar "full-remirror-request" [Medium,Triaged] | 23:20 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Ah, great. | 23:20 |
| wgrant | Is cscvs going to be replaced with bzr-svn at some point? | 23:21 |
| mwhudson | i really hope so | 23:21 |
| wgrant | 0.5 semems to actually be stable. | 23:22 |
| mwhudson | that's good data :) | 23:22 |
| wgrant | It doesn't spontaneously corrupt branches upon merging, which is a good feature. | 23:25 |
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