[00:03] <bcurtiswx> i is back
[00:05] <BUGabundo1> how was dinner?
[00:06] <bcurtiswx> haha, a 10 minute side dish
[00:06] <bcurtiswx> im on a grad student budget ya know :P
[00:07] <BUGabundo1> I know what you mean
[00:43] <BUGabundo1> maco: ==1035==      possibly lost: 2,270,681 bytes in 49,352 blocks. isn't good is it? (taken from kmail via valgrind)
[00:43] <maco> 2mb?
[00:44] <BUGabundo1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122116/
[00:44] <BUGabundo1> full log
[00:44] <BUGabundo1> I have no idea
[00:44] <BUGabundo1> still learning on how to look at it
[01:14] <Rocket2DMn> bug 48151 - I am going to just set this back to New unless somebody thinks I should just close it?
[01:23] <charlie-tca> Why not just close it as invalid, since no one has reproduced it since it was reported in 2006. Chances are good it has been since been fixed
[01:25] <Rocket2DMn> charlie-tca, i've been yelled at for doing that in the past
[01:25] <Rocket2DMn> i already marked it as new again
[01:25] <charlie-tca> okay
[01:26] <Rocket2DMn> thanks though
[01:26] <Rocket2DMn> charlie-tca, how about bug 22494 though, that one would be easier to mark as Fix Released, even without feedback from the OP and original confirmer
[01:30] <charlie-tca> Yes, with the "closed based on the last comments above as fixed with an update" type statement?
[01:31] <Rocket2DMn> Yeah, that would be my normal response, I just got chewed out a bit the other day for some stuff, so I'm taking it slow
[01:31] <Rocket2DMn> thanks
[01:31] <charlie-tca> I know that one.
[01:32] <charlie-tca> You could always say I said so, and let them chew on me.
[01:32] <Rocket2DMn> I just might :)
[01:33] <charlie-tca> Of course, that doesn't apply to network-manager at all. I still haven't quite figured that out
[01:33] <Rocket2DMn> hehe yeah, i have yet to figure out much about networking in linux, esp wireless
[01:44]  * bugabundo raises eye browns
[01:44] <bugabundo> wifi what?
[01:45] <charlie-tca> wifi that did not work in 2005/2006
[01:46] <bugabundo> humm that was a nasty bug
[01:46] <bugabundo> glad to see it fixed
[03:13] <slick666> Hi everyone
[03:14] <slick666> I have a question about a bug and I'm not sure what to do next
[03:14] <slick666> I'm kinda new
[03:21] <slick666> no one active?
[03:26] <Ryan52> slick666: you need to ask your question.
[03:26] <slick666> oh
[03:26] <Ryan52> and then wait.
[03:26] <slick666> sry
[03:27] <slick666> This bug seems ligitimate
[03:27] <slick666> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpid/+bug/332211
[03:27] <slick666> what should I do next
[03:27] <slick666> should I mark it confirmed, or new?
[03:28] <Ryan52> only mark confirmed if you verify that it happens for you.
[03:28] <slick666> ok, then this should go from incomplete back to new?
[03:29] <Ryan52> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[03:29] <slick666> the person filing seems to have added all the data necessary
[03:29] <Ryan52> then Triaged fits.
[03:29] <Ryan52> "Use this when you are confident that it should be looked at by a developer and has enough information "
[03:30] <slick666> ah
[03:30] <slick666> I see
[03:31] <slick666> so I should bring this to the attention to a member of the bug control group
[03:31] <Ryan52> yep. so ask here. you should also recommend an importance for them to set.
[03:31] <Ryan52> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[03:32] <slick666> cool, my first triage :)
[03:32] <Ryan52> hmm...how do I check when my bug control powers are going to expire? they're going to expire soon, I think.
[03:33] <slick666> this bug looks like a it's a low priority
[03:33] <slick666> "Ones that affect unusual configurations or uncommon hardware"
[03:33] <slick666> I had someone at the bugjam try it on his two IBMs and he couldn't reproduce it
[03:36] <slick666> is there someone in the channel that can update this bug from incomplete to triage as a low priority bug?
[03:42] <Ryan52> what's jaunty+1 gonna be called? has it been announced yet?
[03:43] <slick666> Karmic Koala
[03:43] <Ryan52> oh.
[03:43] <Ryan52> thanks.
[03:44] <slick666> np
[03:49] <bcurtiswx> not a lot if dictionaries have karmic in it
[03:49] <bcurtiswx> but Karmic means "of or relating to Karma"
[03:50] <bcurtiswx> Im going with laxidasical llama for the next one
[03:50] <Ryan52> o noez.
[03:51] <Ryan52> I will never be able to spell that right.
[03:51] <Ryan52> :P
[03:52] <maco> Ryan52: thats ok, im not sure bcurtiswx did to begin with
[03:52] <maco> let's not make it be Lepper Leopard, k?
[03:53] <bcurtiswx> maco: lol, actuallly http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=laxidasical
[03:53] <Ryan52> heh
[03:53] <maco> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lackadaisical
[03:53] <maco> urban dictionary isn't a real dictionary!
[03:53] <Ryan52> pffft. close enough. :P
[03:54] <bcurtiswx> i know, i was totally playing around with that one
[03:54] <maco> yeah yeah
[03:54] <bcurtiswx> lonely larvae ?
[03:56] <bcurtiswx> legendary locust?
[03:56] <bcurtiswx> ok ok, im deviating from reality
[03:56] <bcurtiswx> can you tell its my bed time?
[03:56] <Ryan52> lol
[03:59] <bcurtiswx> Lamassu (Assyrian winged bulls and lions, with       human heads.)
[03:59] <bcurtiswx> sweet
[03:59] <bcurtiswx> lets stick with mythical creatures (like the jackalope)
[04:00] <bcurtiswx> Leviathon
[04:00] <bcurtiswx> eek
[04:00] <bcurtiswx> Leviathan*
[04:01] <bcurtiswx> A       huge sea serpent mentioned in the Bible. The name means       "coiling" At the End of Days, the Behemoth and Leviathan will       battle, destroying each other.
[04:05] <maco> whats the snake that eats its own tail? i think it might be at the start of the alphabet though :-/
[04:05] <slick666> lol
[04:06] <tcole1> ouroboros
[04:06] <maco> omnipotent ouroboros...2 years from now?
[04:07] <maco> (thats the snake that eats its own tail)
[04:14] <Ryan52> is it correct of me to close (as in "fix released") a bug against hardy that's is not reproducable in Jaunty? do FTBFS bugs count too?
[04:23] <Ryan52> bdmurray: hmm. can you extend my bug control membership? I really haven't done all that much, tho I do respond to incoming bugs on my packages, and try to work on the backlog of them. which is all I really intended on doing in the first place anyway...and my number of packages is growing, so ya..
[04:32] <maco> ok im trying to figure out what the heck is going on with pidgin
[04:33] <cactaur> Hey, I was wondering if someone could look over this bug. I have this bug, and I found a report which was similar to it, with the same symptoms, but I'm not sure about the root cause, and I'm not even sure it's in the right package. Should I change the first report to reflect what I think, file a new bug report, or just leave my comments for someone else to handle?
[04:33] <cactaur> This is the report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/293424
[04:33] <maco> i mean, the symptom is "there's no visible buddy list on any workspace" but itd be really nice if gdb showed what was going on
[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[07:43] <YoBoY> hi
[07:44] <YoBoY> #333675 -> wishlist
[08:27] <YoBoY> #333659 -> wishlist
[09:36] <savvas> where's the global jam after-party? :P
[09:36] <dholbach> savvas: on loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com :)
[09:37] <dholbach> feel free to weigh in with your thoughts
[09:37] <savvas> I didn't participate much unfortunately, ubuntu-cy is working on a linux presentation for the government
[09:37] <dholbach> savvas: still it'd be nice to hear what you have to say :)
[09:38]  * savvas looks
[09:38] <savvas> dholbach: by the way, the pending merges will be reviewed again once the new dev release is prepared, right?
[09:39] <dholbach> savvas: yes - if there's anything urgent, we'll merge it beforehand or you can do it, if you like :)
[09:39] <dholbach> some might need a freeze exception though
[09:40] <savvas> ok thanks
[09:41] <dholbach> http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/bugs/rcbugs/ might be a good indicator for that
[13:04] <Hew> anyone know what desktop environment this is? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22960711/Screenshot.png I'm not sure if it's broken, or it's XFCE or something. bug 332491
[13:08] <james_w> Hew: it could be Xfce
[13:08] <Hew> james_w: Ok, thanks.
[15:12] <bddebian> Boo
[15:14] <BUGabundo> Foo Fam Fim I smell a BUG. Ill crash BUGs
[15:20] <bddebian> heh
[16:13] <bcurtiswx_> bug #333651 , will bug control please set to wishlist?
[16:15] <MrKanister> bcurtiswx_: done
[16:16] <bcurtiswx_> MrKanister: ty
[16:16] <MrKanister> bcurtiswx_: You are welcome
[16:59] <thomasdelbeke> Hi people
[16:59] <thomasdelbeke> are u offline now?
[16:59] <thomasdelbeke> or can u take a look at this:
[17:00] <thomasdelbeke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122459/
[17:02] <thomasdelbeke> and this:
[17:02] <thomasdelbeke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122460/
[17:02] <dholbach> thomasdelbeke: if I'm not mistaken it seems to be waiting for something in both cases
[17:02] <dholbach> seb128: can you confirm?
[17:02] <thomasdelbeke> I had a fatal display crash
[17:03] <thomasdelbeke> I do not know what it was waiting for
[17:03] <thomasdelbeke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/323694
[17:03] <dholbach> anything in Xorg.log or gdm log?
[17:03] <seb128> confirm what?
[17:03] <seb128> (in a meeting)
[17:03] <thomasdelbeke> I think it is a duplicate of that bug
[17:03] <dholbach> seb128: the two pastebin things above - looks like gdm is waiting for something there and probably not a real crash of gdm
[17:03] <thomasdelbeke> I broke my arm so I am slow
[17:03] <thomasdelbeke> I look now
[17:04] <seb128> is it crashing or hanging or what?
[17:05] <thomasdelbeke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122465/
[17:06] <seb128> could you describe your issue rather than just give stacktraces and log?
[17:07] <thomasdelbeke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122467/
[17:07] <thomasdelbeke> ok sorry
[17:07] <thomasdelbeke> display crashed
[17:08] <thomasdelbeke> did alt+ctrl+F5
[17:08] <seb128> display?
[17:08] <thomasdelbeke> got command prompt
[17:08] <seb128> login screen? desktop? crashed, ie your session closed and you went back to login screen?
[17:08] <thomasdelbeke> yes it froze up
[17:08] <thomasdelbeke> I got a pink brown screen
[17:09] <thomasdelbeke> with nothing on it
[17:09] <thomasdelbeke> then i did:
[17:09] <thomasdelbeke> did alt+ctrl+F5
[17:09] <thomasdelbeke> logged in
[17:09] <thomasdelbeke> pidof gdm
[17:10] <thomasdelbeke> attached both to gdb
[17:10] <thomasdelbeke> I always have one child
[17:10] <thomasdelbeke> i just did backtrace full + info registers + thread apply all backtrace
[17:11] <thomasdelbeke> gdm2 is the child process
[17:11] <thomasdelbeke> after that i killed both
[17:11] <thomasdelbeke> root kill -9 pidof gdm
[17:12] <thomasdelbeke> root startx
[17:12] <thomasdelbeke> this gave me a total black screen
[17:12] <thomasdelbeke> I had to reboot
[17:12] <thomasdelbeke> the log files are there
[17:13] <thomasdelbeke> I do not have gdm log (?):
[17:14] <thomasdelbeke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122469/
[17:14] <thomasdelbeke> Any ideas?
[17:15] <chrisccoulson> thomasdelbeke - i don't think i caught your whole conversation and i don't know if you were speaking with anyone specifically, but your GDM log is in /var/log/gdm
[17:15] <thomasdelbeke> I cannot set logging for gdm (?):
[17:15] <thomasdelbeke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122472/
[17:16] <thomasdelbeke> ok thanks, I have 4:
[17:23] <thomasdelbeke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122474/
[17:24] <thomasdelbeke> So should I file a separate bug?
[17:59] <tuxmaniac> The battery charge goes down rapidly below 35% . Using a Dell XPS M1210 and this has started to happen fairly recently (for the past 1 week or so) and I remember an acpi update for it. Has anyone come across similar bug?
[17:59] <tuxmaniac> or is it that my battery is screwed
[18:01] <dan> tuxmaniac, does your battery have one of those external meters you can use to check the charge level on the battery itself?
[18:02] <dan> you could compare what the battery thinks to what is being reported in software
[18:02] <BUGabundo> tuxmaniac: or just test it from BIOS
[18:02] <BUGabundo> does your laptop has a "format battery" option?
[18:04] <tuxmaniac> i havent gone deep into this stuff yet becauseone thing I was very happy with this machine of mine was the Laptop Batter life of 4.5 hrs (it dropped to 3.5 hrs after a year and a half which I guess is pretty normal)
[18:04] <tuxmaniac> i will check these and get back. thanks. I am using a M1210 and yes it has a battery meter at the back
[18:53] <bdmurray> mvo: should bug 330687 be assigned to cups-pdf?  I just moved it there
[18:54] <mvo> bdmurray: let me check
[18:55] <mvo> bdmurray: yes
[18:55] <mvo> bdmurray: I think its a duplicate
[18:55] <bdmurray> I didn't see one right away
[19:02] <bdmurray> mvo: how can I find out what held broken package someone has installed?
[19:04] <mvo> bdmurray: that is most likely a mislanding error message :/
[19:07] <bdmurray> mvo: is there something else I should look for in bug 332040 then?
[19:07] <mvo> bdmurray: let me check
[19:12] <mvo> bdmurray: hm, tricky, I need to invstigate this further, looks like a problem of the resolver
[23:04] <bcurtiswx> holy new login screen batman
[23:04] <bcurtiswx> me likey
[23:34] <jbuncher> apw:  It's John from Bug #327431.  I thought this might be a quicker way to communicate if you have the time.
[23:35] <apw> jbuncher, hi
[23:36] <jbuncher> apw:  I hope it's not rude of me to msg you like this.  I just commented on the bug:  there's a missing dependency, "wireless-crda", but that package doesn't seem to be in the repositories (it is for jaunty though).
[23:37] <apw> jbuncher, yeah thats plain wrong.  will have to look at getting rid of those
[23:37] <apw> you should be safe to just force that thing on
[23:37] <apw> (and no its not rude, if i was busy or not here, you'd not get hold of me nothing more)
[23:41] <apw> jbuncher, did you manage to shoe-horn that image on?
[23:41] <jbuncher> apw: I apparently do not know how to install a deb with apt-get
[23:42] <jbuncher> apw:  should I just use dpkg -i debtobeinstalled ?
[23:42] <apw> if you wget the file down, you should be able to dpkg -i foo.deb on it
[23:44] <jbuncher> apw:  due to the missing dependency, it said it was leaving it unconfigured.  Is there a way to force that?
[23:45] <apw> --force-depends might do it
[23:45] <jbuncher> that's doing it
[23:49] <jbuncher> apw:  they're installed now, I'll reboot and test them one by one