[00:22] In #ubuntu-offtopic, dmsuperman said: !rimshot is http://instantrimshot.com [00:25] In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !dmsuperman is hairy [00:49] if anyone has good "that's what she said" irclogs with context, a little side project of mine could benefit from it :) [00:49] jdong_: ? [00:50] I figured some of you guys might have captured bad innuendos/jokes from the channels you idle in :) [00:51] working on a machine-learning innuendo detector [00:51] bash.org? [00:51] qdb.us? [00:51] "Oooh, a sarcasm detector, what a useful invention" [00:52] Pici, you should check your sarcasm at the door, thank you :) [00:53] note the :) removes any sarcastic intent [00:53] nickrud: you don't say [00:53] Pici: lol your statement was just a negative testcase for my detector [00:53] which labeled it "moderately suggestive" [00:53] right now it's kinda garbage-in garbage-out; I need a better input set [00:53] (that's what she said) [00:54] find a rodney dangerfield monolog jdong_ [01:00] jdong_: uncyclopedia? [01:01] LOL the script finds all of the TCP errnos suggestive [01:01] no route to host [01:01] connection timed out [01:02] "i'll host your route" [01:03] So I should do this "cpuburn" then?: That's what she said! [41.0694685727879] [01:03] heh if you stare at any sentence long enough it becomes suggestive [01:03] if you stare at anything long enough it becomes suggestive [01:04] * nickrud eyes his coffee cup [01:07] slangasek called the ops in #ubuntu-motu () [01:12] fruchtix: how can we help you? [01:12] i need a mediation with Hobbsee [01:12] she told me to die. and that hurts my feelings [01:12] * Hobbsee prods nalioth [01:13] and now she seems to be begging nalioth for a mode [01:13] i'm not sure - can you have feelings when you're dead? [01:13] fruchtix: what leads you to that conclusion? [01:13] i think that is breaking the code of conduct [01:13] LjL: you might want to point out that Paddy Frank is here ^ [01:13] to various staffers [01:13] see [01:13] point proven [01:14] she is giving false information only to get rid of me, after she was abusive in my private [01:14] er. Anyway. [01:14] so who is instructing Hobbsee to re-read the code of conduct that she signed? [01:15] fruchtix: if you come in and harass me in PM, you deserve whatever you get. [01:15] its also breaking the network policy to tell people to die [01:15] i was harassing you? where? [01:15] and how does this justify to tell me to die? [01:15] * nalioth blinks [01:16] Hobbsee: is it possible that you dont know well how to handle anger and other feelings and emotions? [01:16] and why do i have to sufffer from that? [01:16] fruchtix, enough with the 'have I stopped beating my wife' statements [01:16] i would like to know [01:16] nickrud: excuse me? [01:17] are you making fun of me because a woman is abusing me as man? [01:17] fruchtix, I've seen nothing from either of you that gives grounds for any position from an op. [01:17] i've seen a lot of accusations [01:17] fruchtix: http://www.google.com/search?q=have+you+stopped+beating+your+wife&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 [01:17] but no evidence [01:17] lets start from scratch. i asked for a mediation [01:17] an entry entitled something akin to "logical fallacies" should be first [01:18] then Hobbsee comes in and provides false information so nalioth pushes the k-line button [01:18] are you with me so far? [01:18] fruchtix: obviously, it wasn't successful. please get to the point [01:18] fruchtix, nope. Nalioth is a council member, he should be called for a mediation [01:18] Classic Paddy Frank material. There's also evidence in #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-devel. Have a good day people! [01:18] the point (for a start) is: [02:10] [privmsg] die. [01:19] i say that to my bots sometimes [01:19] the what? [01:19] although mostly i just kill -9 them [01:19] i dont think its time for lame jokes [01:19] but i do! [01:20] do you also make fun of yourself when you were just abused by a female person who is failed to understand her own feelings and emotions aswell as showing disrespect of other people? [01:20] fruchtix: w/o a full set of logs from both of you, i don't see any problem here [01:21] fruchtix: uhm... let me think about that [01:21] not sure it happened to me overly often [01:21] but - yes, the answer is yes [01:21] i see a problem with a violation of the code of conduct within the ubuntu community, not sure how that affects the freenode staff. it was hobbsee who was begging for your attention [01:21] fruchtix: got logs? [01:22] [02:14] * Hobbsee (n=hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee) has joined #ubuntu-ops [01:22] [02:14] * ChanServ gives voice to Hobbsee [01:22] [02:14] i need a mediation with Hobbsee [01:22] [02:14] she told me to die. and that hurts my feelings [01:22] [02:14] * Hobbsee prods nalioth [01:22] [02:14] and now she seems to be begging nalioth for a mode [01:22] [02:15] i'm not sure - can you have feelings when you're dead? [01:22] [02:15] fruchtix: what leads you to that conclusion? [01:22] [02:15] i think that is breaking the code of conduct [01:22] [02:15] LjL: you might want to point out that Paddy Frank is here ^ [01:22] he didn't mean *these* logs. [01:22] [02:15] to various staffers [01:22] we *have* these logs. [01:22] fruchtix: you have 10 minutes to get your facts together [01:22] i hope you can type fast [01:22] we could always dig up the discussions in #ubuntu-devel & #ubuntu-motu [01:23] Well then. [01:25] timing is everything [01:25] hm? [01:25] Is there anything constructive goign on here? [01:25] joining minutes after fruchtix parted [01:25] ahhh, lovely [01:25] Unfortunately, no. [01:25] Or fortunately, depending on your view. [01:25] fortunately, no. [01:25] that must explain why he's gone back to PMing me [01:26] now he's insulting me in private [01:26] Hobbsee: fructhix got a 10 minute quiet for pasting crap here [01:26] >:[ [01:26] what a wonderful person [01:26] ah, lovely [01:26] Hobbsee: if you have logs of the incident he is referring to, that'd be great [01:31] * nickrud wonders why he never gets these insults in private, only in public [01:32] nickrud: no idea, I only said 1 thing in here [01:32] he seemed to take it personally [01:32] ajmitch, possibly the one thing that worried him; a trail [01:32] this isn't worth the electrons to print on the screen [01:33] no worries [01:33] i has LCD! [01:33] y'all can feel free to invite him back here [01:33] but I'm bored (no work at the moment and can't take up help in ubuntu cuz he might have to leave without notice) and this is the only game in town :( [01:33] is that an invitation to mass-invite him? [01:33] because i'm ready [01:33] up to you [01:33] got logs? [01:34] LjL, ^^ [01:34] Where were going, we don't need logs. [01:34] Pici: does there exist such a sad place that doesn't need logs? [01:34] or perhaps i meant non-sad [01:34] now now, professionalism first [01:34] i confuse them sometimes [01:35] LjL: I'm not sure, my Back to The Future reference was obviously missed. === nickrud_ is now known as nickrud [01:38] the banlist is _still_ full? [01:38] yeah... [01:38] again!? [01:38] because nobody checks their bans every 24 hours [01:38] I knocked 30some bans off the other day [01:38] it's "fire and forget" [01:39] hold on a second... [01:39] last time i was here, there were almost no exploit victims [01:39] And now that we're all checking the BT, the database is locked. [01:39] I've got 4 active, all commented. I guess I can release the oldest two ... [01:39] has the exploit made some resurgence? [01:39] Pici: don't look at me, i'm not checking it. [01:39] LjL: I know not you [01:40] i've just removed some of the floodbot ones [01:41] LjL: I went through the /bans list and removed anything from the bots that wasn't a forward. [01:41] Pici: eh... but the ones i removed weren't forwards, unless my prescription seriously needs updating [01:41] LjL: I know, those are just from the last few days. [01:42] ah, yeah [01:42] LjL: a new set of variables has emerged but the effect is the same [01:42] well there's no bans from me so not much more than that i can do [01:42] aside from fix the code in the floodbots that is supposed to warn when the banlist is about to become full [01:42] but i don't feel like doing that [01:43] some of those years old bans, are they still relevant? The perps are still active? [01:44] last time someone asked that question, seveas quit, i believe [01:45] no, seveas quit because someone evaded his ban; I understand it was because the ban wasn't quite wide enough [01:45] seveas quit because he's a prick really [01:45] wasn't it a ban that he set? [01:45] anyway [01:45] Seeker`, yes [01:45] :( [01:45] if the bans are years old *and* they should still be set... [01:46] then they should be in chanserv's permban list [01:46] Ahem. [01:46] seveas was never a prick to me; he's one of the reasons I stuck around in the first place [01:46] i don't see anything just so overly old to me, anyway? [01:46] nickrud: oh? his being a prick was one of the reasons i stuck around [01:46] weird [01:46] eh :) [01:47] You're all pricks, lets get back to discussing the bans. [01:47] different environments I think :) [01:47] someone call me? [01:47] mneptok: no, this time it was about seveas [01:48] oh, different department. [01:48] down the hall, left at the water cooler, and go screw yourself. [01:48] I guess I'll put something together to grep my logs for nicks based on those masks, maybe I can come up with something. [01:53] Pici: if you find any of them was me, destroy the evidence. [01:54] "We believe the problems with services were related to a staff only command with we have disabled for the time being." <- Someone messed up with commands they didn't really know how to use [01:55] "It should all clear from here on in" <- We've hit the culprit with a stick and they won't do it again [01:55] I said it was the '/kill services' command [01:55] how's my staffspeak translation skills? [01:55] Sounds accurate to me [01:56] dang, let the guy have a little self respect left ;) [02:06] was it Dave? [02:06] (sorry Dave) [04:26] nickrud How does this look... http://paste.ubuntu.com/122188/ [04:27] good; when you add menu.lst to it [04:27] oh well [04:28] sources.list? Also, all the .d files [04:29] yes, device.map and a listing of /boot . With that info, a plurality of questions can be answered, I think [04:29] * nickrud wonders why he gave me 30 sec to look [05:08] How's it going, Flannel? [05:10] tritium: Pretty good. Still somewhat recovering from the weekend. [05:10] Busy bug jamming? [05:10] Nah, SCaLE [05:10] well, we had a bugjam at SCaLE, but [05:10] Oh, how did it go? [05:11] That was the quiet half of our presence there. [05:11] Good, good. I don't have numbers, but we passed out around 150 CDs over the weekend. Which means people probably got something like 250. Since Canonical was there handing out CDs too. I wonder if they'd be able to tell us how many they passed out. [05:12] That's great. :) [05:12] Bug Jam didn't go so hot though. Which, I sort of thought it wouldn't. People don't really go to a conference and then decide "oh, I'll do bugwork" Although we were hoping we'd get some people interested in learning how to do bugwork, or even better, learning how to run their own bugjam. [05:13] Well, at least you tried. [05:13] Yeah. The organizers really wanted to see it, and so did jcastro. Luckily we had plenty of people to pull both off [05:14] crdlb called the ops in #ubuntu () [05:14] Good deal. [06:04] whos awake with -ot? [08:01] * Myrtti yawns [08:02] * Gary gets Myrtti coffee [08:08] to that URL that Jack_Sparrow gave [08:08] I'd add sudo lshw [08:11] LjL: the Floodbots warn about banevasions on non-existing bans [08:11] @bansearch Cyntek [08:11] No matches found for cyntek!n=cyntek@cpe-76-83-30-190.socal.res.rr.com in any channel [08:12] @btlogin [08:13] though that is a valid ban... according to bantracker, still valid [08:18] [sadly]!n=aku@125.162.255.25 is a ban that's been removed in Dec 06 2008 14:19:35, still the bots warn about ban evasion [08:40] wow [08:41] laconi.ca is going to develop into a kickass twitter killer [08:58] Seeker`, nah, the only thing I've managed to do is bring down the network. *hides* [09:00] @bansearch Like [09:00] No matches found for like!n=martin@r190-135-134-247.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy in any channel [09:07] watch out for Like... [09:07] he seems to be giving advice that are misinformed or downright wrong [09:19] I have a feeling that hotbaby1 is impersonating a female to get help or to joke around, but I might be wrong [09:25] yeah, most definitely [09:26] @bansearch dash84 [09:26] Match: *!*@adsl-074-236-013-101.sip.mia.bellsouth.net by topyli in #ubuntu-offtopic on Feb 23 2009 09:10:04 (ID: 10324) [09:26] Match: *!*@adsl-*.mia.bellsouth.net by stdin in #ubuntu-bots on Jan 06 2009 20:56:18 (ID: 8766) [09:27] fntastic [09:27] fan [09:27] tastic. [09:28] he's going to get it from me soon [09:28] I'm triggered [09:29] any ops available here? [09:29] i need help with something [09:29] surprisingly for a channel named #ubuntu-ops... yes [09:29] well i didnt know if it was just an idling room [09:30] lol... [09:30] anyways i need help with something [09:30] are you an op? [09:30] how about if you cough up your question and we'll see if I can help you [09:31] i got banned [09:31] and i want to get unbanned [09:31] that's how these things go in all the #ubuntu channels [09:32] so can i get any help on that? [09:32] depends on what channel you were banned, who banned you and what did you do to get banned [09:32] well [09:32] i was being a jerk [09:32] in [09:32] kubuntu-offtopic [09:33] from what I see you've been removed from multiple ubuntu channels, multiple times [09:33] it appears you don't seem to learn from your behaviour mistakes [09:33] nah. [09:34] just once [09:34] i didnt think people would get pissy in an offtopic room [09:34] no [09:34] i got kicked [09:34] then about 30 minutes later i got banned [09:35] you got kicked twice on the same day [09:35] from the same channel [09:35] eh [09:35] what part am I not making clear ? [09:36] on the same day - you got removed twice from the channel and banned ? [09:36] i hear you man [09:36] i just dont see why this cant be worked out [09:36] of course it can [09:36] but I don't see why you didn't learn on your first ban [09:36] first kick sorry [09:36] was that not a hint that people would not welcome your behaviour in offtopic channels ? [09:37] i didnt really think there was a higher consequence [09:37] ooh so as long as there are no-consequnces carry on [09:37] i mean, i know the possibility of being banned, but its not like i was really going out of my way to be obnoxious [09:37] rather than stop because you where asked to [09:37] dash84, you were trolling #ubuntu-offtopic exactly 24hrs ago, and got removed at least once that i saw. [09:37] you knew the consiequences so kept going [09:37] even though some might have seen it that way, i could be way too sarcastic at times [09:37] fair enough then - [09:38] I'm leaving this for the person who banned you. [09:38] I don't find your reasoning acceptable [09:38] more so looking at your behaviour in #ubuntu a few minutes ago [09:38] dash84, you're trying to excuse your behaviour, not change it. that will not get you anywhere in life [09:39] nah, you kind of have things misconscrewed or something [09:39] im not so used to the whole rules thing on irc [09:39] dash84: rule 1 [09:39] "kick is not an invite" [09:40] dash84: rule 2 [09:40] !guidelines [09:40] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [09:40] yeah im aware. [09:40] read those [09:40] "when someone says you to stop, you stop" [09:40] Myrtti, rule 2 applies to most things in life [09:40] rule 3: "play nice, or play elsewhere" [09:41] Myrtti, rule 3b: "our sandpit, our toys, our rules" [09:42] dash84: the thing is, that there's lots of different kind of people in Ubuntu IRC channels [09:42] yeah, i guess you could figure that out on the cover for a ubuntu cd. [09:43] dash84: and you have to act accordingly, to fit your behaviour to be the same it would be in, say, middle of a PG rated family get together. [09:43] there are people from Europe, Asia, US, kids, elderly, adults. [09:43] just to name few [09:44] yeah i get what you're saying [09:46] as for me caring about anyone's place of residence i really don't [09:46] :/ [09:46] hmmmmm... let me dig a quote... [09:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/122302/ [09:48] I find that attitude somewhat disturbing [09:49] gosh, I need coffee before it's noon. [09:49] brb [09:49] thats just offensive and threatening [09:49] yeah, i dont think i want someone who thinks like that in #*ubuntu* [09:50] eh, im not really one to flame off but i thought some people would get a laugh out of it [09:50] its a george carlin skit. [09:50] and if was to threaten your mother, could i call that a fiftycent skit and get out of jail? [09:50] no - it's offensive and rude [09:52] i really dont see that as threatening [09:52] if you could elaborate on it a little more maybe i'd get what you're saying [09:52] dash84: We got the bombs [09:52] eg: we are the power [09:53] telling someone they do not count in the world is foul enough [09:53] dash84: george carlin who? (in reality I do know who george carlin is. he's the guy in ... Bill and Ted movies.) [09:53] not george carlin [09:53] bill hicks, sorry. [09:53] oh, that I've never heard. [09:54] that's not bill hicks [09:54] never heard of him [09:54] bill hiscks never said that [09:54] ever heard his cds? [09:54] of course he says that man. [09:54] elky: satire political comment - who never said that [09:54] dash84: I own them all [09:54] dash84: can you see the problem now? [09:54] s/comment/comic [09:55] you're assuming people know some random comedians skits. most of this world has never heard of george carlin or bill hicks. [09:55] making jokes like that doesn't really hit the spot in multicultural environment [09:57] especially since some of the people in that channel live in areas where they hear bombs go off on a nightly basis. [10:00] of course I could start the classic jokes about a Finn, a Swede and a Norwegian... [10:00] but I assume my friend Nafallo here might take offense. [10:00] the problem was the other user wasn't joking [10:00] she was having a discussion [10:00] which makes things even worse. [10:00] so to be shot down with an insult which actually looks a bit like a threat [10:01] everyone can joke, but it's clear that was a discussion [10:01] COFFEE! [10:01] BAH [10:01] it's noon already [10:01] damnit [10:01] FAIL [10:01] noon? [10:02] dash84: I'd suggest you join some irc channels for a day or so and just get an idea of how channels can varey and how things can be taken by people [10:02] dash84: it's useul to see what people do then releate it to the ubuntu guidelines elky sent you [10:02] (I've found it useful) [10:02] all right [10:03] dash84: yes, noon. [10:03] so i guess its safe to assume i wont be getting unbanned [10:03] 2009-02-24 12:03:03 [10:03] after all thats said - thats your response [10:03] unless you can come up with a better response [10:04] we're really not trying to bully you, we're trying to tell you where you went wrong [10:04] bans are very, very rarely meant to be permanent [10:05] yeah i understand where i went wrong, and thinking about it from time to time yesterday i kind of felt bad about it, considering i used to actually have OP in an IRC room yearssss ago, i didnt really get excited about getting banned for bad behavior [10:06] that's really not a good response at all [10:06] i know i got pretty annoying and rude, i just didnt think it would be such a serious concern [10:06] still not a good response [10:07] most people i talk to in rooms could take a sarcastic diss [10:07] and I can tell you from years of experience [10:08] not saying what i did was ok, but its not like i was really going out of my way to offend someone, either by race,religion or otherwise [10:09] in Ubuntu channels, most of the people don't speak English as their native language, and about one fifth (minimum) couldn't tell sarcasm from particle physics because of that language barrier. [10:09] yeah i get what you're saying [10:10] dash84: how can you have been an op - yet tell us your new to irc rules ? [10:10] im used to channels with not too many rules [10:11] different channels have different rules [10:11] you go on 2600 and you could drop a million f bombs and no one will care. [10:11] but you understand rules and how to manage them, if you have done op duties [10:11] yeah [10:11] dash84: so I'm not clear why if you knew the rules, and knew the consiquences (more so as an ex-op) you kept going ? [10:11] that doesn't really make sense ? [10:12] even though i used to just ban spammers and people that idled/didnt share files [10:12] so - that still means you understand how to police a channel, rules and their consiequences [10:13] yet you got kicked and less than 30 minutes later came back and carried on ? [10:13] i thought there was a 3rd strike law [10:13] that seems quite a backwards approach for someone who has been involve in irc at a moderator level [10:13] like california [10:13] why did you need a second strike [10:13] what do you really want to hear man, that i have down-syndrome and bad short-term memory [10:13] why did you not respect the people kicking you ? or other people in the channel [10:14] dash84: o you have down-syndrome and a short term memory ? [10:14] do [10:14] nah [10:14] but im pretty adhd [10:14] dash84: so why make that comment [10:14] and have been diagnosed bi-polar [10:14] 90% of us are adhd [10:14] if that really matters [10:14] no, it doesn't [10:14] and to be honest based on your comments I personally wouldn't believe you [10:15] im on disability right now. [10:15] otherwise i'd be sleeping to go to work in the morning [10:15] like i used to [10:15] that has no reference here [10:15] mental illness is not a free pass to misbehave. i find people who try to use it as such to be quite reprehensible [10:16]