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| avuton | I'm running in a 256M environment, would xubuntu take less memory then ubuntu (which seems to tap at the sight of my ram) | 00:37 |
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| charlie-tca | avuton: yes | 00:44 |
| charlie-tca | If you use the Xubuntu packages | 00:45 |
| avuton | charlie-tca: then it will take significantly less ram? | 00:45 |
| charlie-tca | If you chose to install open-office.org and other resource grabbers, it won | 00:45 |
| charlie-tca | s/won/won't | 00:45 |
| avuton | OK, I'll give it a shot then | 00:46 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know how significant, but it is less. | 00:46 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | so how long do i have to lurk before i can ask questions here | 01:16 |
| zoredache | you can ask them immediatly, and if someone knows the answer, and they are awake they may answer | 01:17 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | wow | 01:17 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | awesome ;) | 01:17 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i need to figure out how to install my proprietary graphics driver, or at least how to roll back to the one i know works in case | 01:19 |
| charlie-tca | !nvidia | 01:20 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 01:20 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | and i have an intel 82845G onboard vid chip | 01:20 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | thanks for the link, though | 01:23 |
| rollthedice | For some reason during Xubuntu installation the installer hangs and crashes when starting the Partition editor, anyone experience this?? | 02:04 |
| rollthedice | 8.10 / 8.04 both CD's and alternate disk installation. | 02:05 |
| charlie-tca | Do the cd's pass integrity checks | 02:06 |
| charlie-tca | ? | 02:06 |
| rollthedice | Yes | 02:06 |
| charlie-tca | Very strange, but I think there is a bug on it. If not, please file one, but make to give what your hardware is. | 02:07 |
| rollthedice | It is an old computer, I assume it is an issue with my harddrive | 02:07 |
| charlie-tca | I had it happen with cd-rw's before, but not with cd-r's | 02:07 |
| charlie-tca | Could be a bad hard drive, too. | 02:08 |
| rollthedice | When I start xubuntu in live CD mode, I can start the partition editor though. | 02:08 |
| rollthedice | It just fails on the install. | 02:08 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, it formats the disk during the install, after collecting the information | 02:08 |
| rollthedice | I assumed it would allow you to select the partition to format. | 02:09 |
| rollthedice | It just crashes before Checking Disk. | 02:09 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, yeah. It is also determined to have 80 pin IDE cables | 02:09 |
| rollthedice | Is there a way to work around that? | 02:09 |
| charlie-tca | If you have 40 wire cables, it will crash | 02:09 |
| rollthedice | That could be a possibility. | 02:09 |
| charlie-tca | New drive cables. ATA-133, I think they sometimes call them. the 80-wire cables | 02:10 |
| rollthedice | Should be compatible with my current hardware | 02:10 |
| charlie-tca | The end on the motherboard is normally blue. They are compatible with all the hardware except extremely old systems. Like the mid-90's or earlier won't work with them | 02:11 |
| charlie-tca | I have only come across one P2 motherboard that would not accept them | 02:12 |
| rollthedice | nice, could be a cheap fix | 02:12 |
| charlie-tca | yes, if that is it. It makes it look like the hard drive is dead. | 02:13 |
| rollthedice | Rather not spend a lot of money on a 10 year old computer | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | You could try 7.10 and see if it works. It doesn't require the new cables. | 02:13 |
| rollthedice | I'm on it | 02:13 |
| charlie-tca | 8.04 and 8.10 both insisted on them, and they have to be connected correctly. The long end on the motherboard. | 02:14 |
| charlie-tca | Even 80-wire cables fail, if they are not connected correct. | 02:14 |
| rollthedice | I'll try 7.10 first. | 02:15 |
| charlie-tca | It will rule out the hard drive, at least. | 02:15 |
| rollthedice | Are the updates from 8.10 and 7.10 that noticable? | 02:15 |
| rollthedice | Er 7.10 and 8.10 | 02:16 |
| rollthedice | If it is I might just try a different OS. | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | yes. I think so. 8.10 has better wireless networking, easier configurations. | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | The cable thing is the linux kernel. All distrobutions ran into it. | 02:17 |
| rollthedice | Doh | 02:17 |
| charlie-tca | I think it was found by redhat originally, but I am not sure. | 02:17 |
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| rollthedice | Ahh | 02:18 |
| rollthedice | Well anything is better than XP S1 | 02:18 |
| rollthedice | SP1 | 02:18 |
| charlie-tca | Well, yeah. | 02:18 |
| charlie-tca | If 7.10 worked, you would know to get the new cables, right? | 02:19 |
| rollthedice | Yeah | 02:19 |
| rollthedice | It would rule out the HD | 02:19 |
| rollthedice | I'd just slap new cables on and allow it to update | 02:19 |
| rollthedice | If not, a cheap HD might be in order | 02:20 |
| rollthedice | I might have one laying aroundd | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, that too. | 02:20 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | what cmd do i use to find what video driver is currently being used by my vid card | 02:27 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i tried the online docs already | 02:27 |
| charlie-tca | lspci -vv | 02:27 |
| rollthedice | Thanks for the help charlie, have a good evening. | 02:31 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | well, maybe i should ask if i'm right before i try to change my video driver | 02:34 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | will the proprietary drivers run the video more efficiently than the prepackaged ones | 02:35 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i mean, in general | 02:36 |
| charlie-tca | it's Intel? | 02:37 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | yeah | 02:37 |
| charlie-tca | To the best of my knowledge, they are equal for Intel video | 02:38 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | ok | 02:38 |
| charlie-tca | Sorry. I don't think that was what you wanted. | 02:39 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | well not really, but i don't want to try something that could destroy my installation if i don't have to | 02:40 |
| charlie-tca | Unless it is some of the latest stuff, it won't make much difference | 02:41 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | it isn't, heh | 02:42 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | but even so, i don't think my graphics should be running as slow as they are | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | 8.04 or 8.10? | 02:43 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | 8.1 | 02:43 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | xubuntu | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | That seems to be one of the drawbacks to 8.10. I have heard that a lot. | 02:44 |
| charlie-tca | We're hoping Jaunty fixes whatever it is. | 02:44 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i hope so too | 02:45 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | well thanks for your help | 02:47 |
| charlie-tca | good luck | 02:49 |
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| whaboo | guys i need some help .. in xubuntu how do i change screen resolution? its not under settings | 04:47 |
| Mood | Settings->Settings Manager->Display | 04:50 |
| whaboo | Mood okay what if i have an external monitor? | 04:51 |
| whaboo | how can i see both under settings? | 04:51 |
| Mood | define "external monitor" | 04:51 |
| whaboo | i have a laptop connected on an external monitor | 04:51 |
| Mood | so you have two monitors? | 04:52 |
| whaboo | its on a 19 inch screen | 04:52 |
| whaboo | no im only using the 19 inch screen not the laptop's monitor | 04:52 |
| Mood | and changing the Desktop resolution under Settings Manager doesn't do it? | 04:53 |
| whaboo | no it only gives me 800x600 | 04:53 |
| Mood | what's your max resolution of your 19 inch? | 04:53 |
| whaboo | my video card is recognised | 04:53 |
| whaboo | 1600x1200 i think | 04:54 |
| whaboo | not sure | 04:54 |
| whaboo | i know u can do it through the terminal somehow | 04:54 |
| whaboo | it used to work under pclinuxos and mint | 04:54 |
| Mood | hmm.... | 04:55 |
| Mood | i only use one monitor myself | 04:55 |
| Mood | but looks like some people have different levels of luck w/ different solutions: | 04:55 |
| Mood | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 | 04:55 |
| Mood | seems dependent on video card | 04:56 |
| whaboo | well its a laptop .. but the laptop's screen is broken so i have a 19 inch monitor connected | 04:56 |
| whaboo | somehow it only sees the laptop's resolution | 04:57 |
| whaboo | laptop's screen resolution | 04:57 |
| Mood | yeah it seems from the online chatter that x/k/ubuntu have issues w/ dual monitors... goto that link i sent ya and start there | 04:57 |
| rollthedice | Anyone around? | 06:22 |
| Sw3RvE | yea but im not an expert. | 06:23 |
| Sw3RvE | roll do you need help with something? | 06:31 |
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| rollthedice | Ah sorry, I was wondering why Xubuntu would fail installation when the partitioning part came around; yet when I run Wubi it installs fine. | 06:43 |
| rollthedice | And I was wondering if there is any disadvantage to running a dual boot(Wubi) compared to regular installation. | 06:44 |
| Sw3RvE | i cant help you with that. im sure someone here or in #ubuntu could help you with that. | 06:44 |
| rollthedice | You have no experience with Wubi? | 06:45 |
| Sw3RvE | i dont even know what it is. lol | 06:45 |
| Sw3RvE | i have dual boot with XP/Xubuntu using GRUB and it works fine. | 06:45 |
| rollthedice | Ah, well i assume the only disadvantage to dual-booting is a loss of HD space | 06:46 |
| rollthedice | Of which I have no concern since I have externals. | 06:46 |
| Sw3RvE | well yea of course | 06:46 |
| Sw3RvE | yea same here i dont keep a lot of things that i need on the computers drive. | 06:46 |
| Sw3RvE | i need a new external my 120gb is full | 06:46 |
| rollthedice | Yeah, they are super cheap now | 06:48 |
| rollthedice | Only problem is that the 250s are about 10 bucks cheaper than the 1TB's | 06:48 |
| Sw3RvE | i need a job so i can finish buying the rest of the parts for my new pc. | 06:48 |
| rollthedice | You get laid off or you schooling? | 06:49 |
| Sw3RvE | i still need: ram, cpu fan, motherboard, and a video card | 06:49 |
| Sw3RvE | i got fired and im in school now | 06:49 |
| Sw3RvE | i was making good money but i hated the job | 06:49 |
| rollthedice | Service Industry is booming now, I'd become a bartender. | 06:49 |
| rollthedice | I make around 56g a year and have a LOT of free time. | 06:50 |
| rollthedice | Thanks for the help. | 06:50 |
| Sw3RvE | quiet here tonight | 06:56 |
| zoredache | a little too quite... | 06:56 |
| Sw3RvE | zored brad is having trouble with his desktop | 06:57 |
| Sw3RvE | when he enabled xfce to manage his desktop his menu and icons went crazy. | 06:58 |
| Brad450 | something is wrong with XFCE can i like reset it or something?? | 06:59 |
| Sw3RvE | zoredache you there? | 07:00 |
| Brad450 | my icons keep vanishing with any input. if i right click anyware on the desktop gone. if i try and start it gone. i already had ¨places¨ disapear i dont know how to bring it back? can somone please help me | 07:03 |
| Brad450 | my icons keep vanishing with any input. if i right click anyware on the desktop gone. if i try and start it gone. i already had ¨places¨ disapear i dont know how to bring it back? can somone please help me | 07:10 |
| land | what's this place? | 07:13 |
| zoredache | I know nothing... | 07:15 |
| zoredache | !hi | land | 07:15 |
| ubottu | land: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 07:15 |
| zoredache | !xubuntu | 07:15 |
| ubottu | Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels | 07:15 |
| * land says hi zoredache, ubottu | 07:16 | |
| Sw3RvE | lol | 07:16 |
| land | guys, i need some help | 07:16 |
| zoredache | ask a question, if someone knows they answer, they might just anser you | 07:18 |
| land | i'm on Mint; i'm havin' a hard time activating proprietary driver for my ATI graphics | 07:18 |
| Brad450 | Xfce keeps fucking with my desktop icons they keep vanashing with a click. evertime this happens i need to go into desktop settings and un check and re check allow Xfce to manage desktop | 07:18 |
| zoredache | !nvidia | 07:20 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 07:20 |
| rinovan | hi all | 12:15 |
| rinovan | where is xorg.conf xubuntu 8.10 | 12:15 |
| Reno` | what do you want make with xorg.conf | 12:23 |
| Reno` | /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 12:23 |
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| rinovan | ye | 12:44 |
| rinovan | yes | 12:44 |
| rinovan | I do X -configure | 12:45 |
| Angolares | hi | 12:45 |
| Angolares | I have a problem with compilation libraries: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/122363/ | 12:45 |
| Angolares | thats only happen at Xubuntu, i dont have this problem on ubuntu | 12:46 |
| Angolares | any idea? | 12:46 |
| Myrtti | I suppose the version of hylafax you're trying to compile has some very distinct differences to the one that can be installed with the package manager | 12:51 |
| Angolares | If i try with another older it could be better? | 12:53 |
| Myrtti | Angolares: why are you trying to compile it? | 12:53 |
| Myrtti | !info hylafax-client | 12:54 |
| ubottu | hylafax-client (source: hylafax): Flexible client/server fax software - client utilities. In component universe, is extra. Version 2:4.4.4-7 (intrepid), package size 367 kB, installed size 964 kB | 12:54 |
| Myrtti | !info hylafax-server | 12:54 |
| ubottu | hylafax-server (source: hylafax): Flexible client/server fax software - server daemons. In component universe, is extra. Version 2:4.4.4-7 (intrepid), package size 868 kB, installed size 3440 kB | 12:54 |
| Angolares | beacuse i only have the source | 12:55 |
| Myrtti | erm. | 12:55 |
| Myrtti | so why don't you install it with the package manager so you'd have the binaries? | 12:55 |
| Myrtti | you don't need to compile it | 12:56 |
| Angolares | where can i find it? | 12:56 |
| Angolares | the binaries? | 12:56 |
| Myrtti | in synaptic, search for hylafax | 12:56 |
| Angolares | ok, i found it | 12:56 |
| Angolares | i tried and the OS said that could not find hylafax-doc | 12:58 |
| Angolares | Finally | 13:18 |
| Angolares | Hylafax is installed | 13:18 |
| Angolares | Myrtti? | 13:18 |
| Myrtti | yes? | 13:18 |
| Angolares | you know hylafax? | 13:19 |
| Myrtti | nope | 13:19 |
| Angolares | ok | 13:19 |
| Myrtti | I've used a fax machine about twenty years ago | 13:19 |
| Myrtti | :-D | 13:19 |
| Angolares | i have one how to of suse and hylafax... but i think is not the same | 13:19 |
| Angolares | i write faxsetup and not really runs setup | 13:20 |
| sebanio | Did anyone ever get OpenArena running in Xubuntu? It just doesn't start for me, any ideas? | 13:27 |
| volo | hi | 14:32 |
| SiDi | hi | 14:33 |
| cybernaut | hallo | 16:06 |
| vidd | hello cybernaut | 16:07 |
| cybernaut | hello, this is english-speaking, ok | 16:07 |
| vidd | yes | 16:07 |
| cybernaut | does anybody know if it exists for xfce: i am looking for something wich shows me when a cd is inserted and offers me the possibility to eject the cd within xfce | 16:08 |
| vidd | you mean "the drive shows up on the desktop"? | 16:08 |
| SiDi | When you put your CD in the drive, it should popup in Thunar's mounted devices list, and if you right click it, you should get the "Eject" option | 16:08 |
| SiDi | He "ejected" himself :p | 16:08 |
| SiDi | When you put your CD in the drive, it should popup in Thunar's mounted devices list, and if you right click it, you should get the "Eject" option | 16:09 |
| charlie-tca | SiDi: I think that was broke in Hardy, wasn't it? | 16:10 |
| SiDi | Don't know, i never used Xubuntu Hardy | 16:11 |
| osde8info | are you starting xfce from gdm or startx ? | 16:11 |
| cybernaut | SiDi: thank you, so thunar is the solution | 16:11 |
| cybernaut | vidd: the drive should show on desktop, i wish : | 16:11 |
| cybernaut | :) | 16:11 |
| cybernaut | btw, i am using intrepid | 16:12 |
| cybernaut | which windowmanager do you use ? | 16:13 |
| vidd | cybernaut, it used to do that...but that functionality has dropped | 16:13 |
| cybernaut | dropped ? hmm sounds strange | 16:13 |
| * vidd uses slim on some machines and gdm on others | 16:13 | |
| cybernaut | slim sounds interesting, never heard of | 16:14 |
| osde8info | with ootb xubu 8.04 xfce 4 and thunar 0.9.0 cd has popped up on desktop and a window of files | 16:14 |
| vidd | ootb? | 16:14 |
| SiDi | cybernaut: you can use nautilus's desktop at worse (i feel someone's gonna slap me for this) | 16:14 |
| SiDi | feel like * | 16:14 |
| osde8info | out-of-the-box | 16:14 |
| vidd | *slap* SiDi | 16:15 |
| SiDi | Thanks | 16:15 |
| cybernaut | so you think xfce is not the worst :) | 16:15 |
| SiDi | Does thunar/Xfce use the gconf settings for displaying volumes on the desktop ? | 16:15 |
| cody-somerville | no | 16:15 |
| * vidd actually prefers openbox/slim combo over xfce/gdm | 16:15 | |
| charlie-tca | cybernaut: We do show the cd drive in Jaunty. Also, putting in a cd makes it show up on desktop | 16:18 |
| cybernaut | Hi charlie-tca, jaunty is a new information for me. i will check it out. thank yo | 16:20 |
| vidd | cybernaut, jaunty is the next release....still in testing...due out in april | 16:20 |
| cybernaut | jaunty is post intrepid. wow | 16:22 |
| cybernaut | and jaunty with xfce has new options you mean | 16:22 |
| SiDi | btw, when will xubuntu come with its own human-based theme ? :O | 16:24 |
| vidd | ive heard that ubuntu is leaving dirt-brown behind in 9.10 | 16:25 |
| charlie-tca | Why would we? | 16:25 |
| SiDi | Because it'd look better after a fresh install, charlie-tca :p | 16:28 |
| SiDi | i don't like xfce's default xfwm :( | 16:28 |
| cybernaut | thank you for your infos | 16:42 |
| brandonban6 | i like xfce's default theme....I think it's sharp. Each to their own I suppose. | 17:13 |
| * wormsxulla likes the rat | 17:14 | |
| cybernaut | its a rat ? i thougt it is a mouse | 17:18 |
| wormsxulla | :) i prefer to think of it as a rat (black rat for me) | 17:19 |
| charlie-tca | I thought it was a mouse, too | 17:19 |
| * wormsxulla sulks | 17:20 | |
| charlie-tca | it could be a rat, maybe? | 17:20 |
| * wormsxulla smiles | 17:20 | |
| charlie-tca | (for somebody) | 17:21 |
| wormsxulla | :) | 17:21 |
| vidd | its a mouse.... | 17:24 |
| wormsxulla | you guys are destroying my dreams | 17:25 |
| vidd | the rat's tail is proportinally larger compared to the body | 17:25 |
| knome | wormsxulla, your dreams are faulty. come up with replacement ones. | 17:29 |
| wormsxulla | http://vertex.corpsmoderne.net/main.php?g2_itemId=36 | 17:32 |
| wormsxulla | that's my wallpaper, you can see it's a big RAT :p | 17:32 |
| charlie-tca | looks like a mouse to me... | 17:33 |
| charlie-tca | All the rats I have seen are definitely different | 17:33 |
| wormsxulla | ahahah | 17:34 |
| wormsxulla | i actually can't really tell the difference, it's a matter of perspective | 17:34 |
| vidd | wormsxulla, you see a rat, you will be able to tell =] | 17:35 |
| * charlie-tca nods | 17:35 | |
| crazygir | which vm application (vmware/virtualbox) runs nicely on xubuntu? | 17:47 |
| crazygir | *runs/installs | 17:47 |
| charlie-tca | VirtualBox | 17:47 |
| charlie-tca | is the one I use | 17:48 |
| _Pete_ | vmware server runs/installs nicely on my xubuntu | 17:48 |
| _Pete_ | and also have virtualbox | 17:49 |
| zoredache | _Pete_: v1, or v2? | 17:49 |
| crazygir | _Pete_: would you suggest one over the other? | 17:49 |
| _Pete_ | zoredache: v2 | 17:49 |
| _Pete_ | crazygir: it depends how you like to use those | 17:50 |
| crazygir | I've really only used vmware, but having watched a friend bang his head through vmware/ubuntu, I'm starting to wonder | 17:50 |
| zoredache | _Pete_: did you have to do something special to get the firefox-plugin for the console to work? | 17:50 |
| glitsj16 | is there a way to get xfce 4.6 (rc1) into Xubuntu using a dpkg repository ? | 17:50 |
| _Pete_ | zoredache: no | 17:50 |
| crazygir | trying to install vb returns an error, any way to find out what the actual error was? | 17:51 |
| zoredache | personally I prefer vmware over virtual box, but then I have a farm of 15 ESX servers, so I have a bit of a bias towards building vms compatible with the rest of our infrastucture. | 17:51 |
| crazygir | you sure do :) | 17:52 |
| crazygir | understandably | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | glitsj16: it is in jaunty | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | !daily | 17:52 |
| ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 17:52 |
| _Pete_ | one thing that prevents me to use virtualbox is it's missing ability to run vm's in background which can be done with wmware workstation and server | 17:53 |
| crazygir | what do you mean by background? | 17:53 |
| crazygir | without the console up? | 17:53 |
| glitsj16 | charlie-tca: thanks, i was specifically looking to see if the recent xfdesktop is able to present the right-click menu when compiz wallpaper plugin renders wallpapers on all workspaces | 17:53 |
| _Pete_ | crazygir: yes | 17:53 |
| crazygir | in this case that's ok | 17:54 |
| crazygir | but yea, I see why that would be frustrating | 17:54 |
| crazygir | why does the package manager complain about errors but not *give* you the errors? | 17:54 |
| zoredache | crazygir: because errors frightten some people? So they hid them? | 17:55 |
| crazygir | zoredache: hiding is fine, but no "click here for more info" ? | 17:55 |
| crazygir | that's completely unacceptable | 17:55 |
| crazygir | sure, dumb down the system, that's fine, but don't limit the people who might know how to fix something | 17:56 |
| crazygir | or be able to figure it out | 17:56 |
| crazygir | *enable* the user | 17:56 |
| crazygir | zoredache: how would you find out what the package manager b0rked on? | 17:56 |
| zoredache | there is always the terminal if you want the nitty-gritty details | 17:56 |
| crazygir | that'd be nice if I knew how to use the package manager in the terminal :P | 17:57 |
| crazygir | guess I'll have to figure that one out | 17:57 |
| zoredache | ah, to install a package you use a command like 'apt-get install packagename' | 17:57 |
| crazygir | still seems unacceptably lame not to at least give you a way to get the error | 17:57 |
| zoredache | to update the package definitions do a 'apt-get update' | 17:58 |
| zoredache | to apply updates do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' | 17:58 |
| zoredache | put an sudo in front of all of those if you aren't already in a root shell | 17:58 |
| crazygir | to search? | 17:58 |
| zoredache | apt-cache search pattern | 17:58 |
| crazygir | ah apt-cache | 17:58 |
| crazygir | silly linux | 17:58 |
| zoredache | or just look on packages.ubuntu.com | 17:59 |
| * crazygir nods | 17:59 | |
| crazygir | thanks zoredache | 17:59 |
| crazygir | HAH, so it works with apt-get | 18:00 |
| crazygir | silly silly silly | 18:00 |
| crazygir | I guess the gui package manager didn't like figuring out dependencies and installing them | 18:00 |
| zoredache | maybe, it usually works mostly ok, but then I almost never actually use it | 18:02 |
| crazygir | question.. I'm using xubuntu at work cause it is (hopefully) simple and usable, and windows drives me insane. When I reinstall my own unix systems, I simply backup/restore /etc and /home to get my settings back. Is this as simple/straightforward in xubuntu? | 18:03 |
| cody-somerville | crazygir, yup | 18:03 |
| crazygir | (ie, could I simply backup/restore /etc and /home?) | 18:03 |
| crazygir | nice | 18:03 |
| zoredache | crazygir: there are some things under /var you would want to backup too maybe. | 18:04 |
| cody-somerville | there shouldn't be | 18:04 |
| crazygir | which apps/services? | 18:04 |
| zoredache | I for example really like knowing the list of packages installed which is found int /var | 18:05 |
| crazygir | the idea is to be able to get back up and running after a wipe/install/upgrade as simply and quickly as possible | 18:05 |
| crazygir | zoredache: good to know :) | 18:05 |
| Angolares | hi | 18:08 |
| zoredache | if you are running a web server or database server your data would be in /var/www or /var/lib/mysql | 18:08 |
| crazygir | sure | 18:08 |
| crazygir | that's not config though | 18:08 |
| zoredache | no, but it is data. That is the type of thing you would want to backup/restore if you do a full system wipe | 18:09 |
| crazygir | sure | 18:10 |
| Angolares | could someone help me?? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/122496/ | 18:10 |
| zoredache | Angolares: try doing an 'apt-get install build-essential' | 18:11 |
| crazygir | I created a new partition and want to modify fstab to mount this, how do I determine what the UUID should be? | 18:11 |
| zoredache | the command vol_id /dev/name would work | 18:12 |
| zoredache | you could also just put the device name into your fstab instead of the UUID | 18:12 |
| Angolares | i did it | 18:12 |
| Angolares | but always the same message | 18:12 |
| crazygir | cool cool | 18:13 |
| zoredache | Angolares: just out of curiosity, is there some reasy why are you trying to compile it instead of using the version from the repositories? | 18:13 |
| zoredache | Angolares: apt-get install hylafax-server hylafax-client | 18:14 |
| Angolares | i did it too apt-get... but one part of that have an error and do not install faxgetty, and after that they said that the solutio is do a new compile ... | 18:16 |
| m4rk | hi there! where can I get a fresh sources.list for my 7.10 xubuntu install? | 18:18 |
| Grrai | o/ ! | 18:19 |
| zoredache | I see, you might try doing an apt-get build-dep hylafax-server hylafax-client and then an apt-get source hylafax and rebuilding from that | 18:19 |
| Angolares | ok, iḿ gonna trty | 18:20 |
| Angolares | try | 18:20 |
| zoredache | m4rk: did you delete the old one, or what? If you are just needed the standard repositories then you should be able to copy a source.list for a current and replace the release name with fiesty or whatever 7.10 was | 18:20 |
| m4rk | zoredache: my old one is funted | 18:21 |
| m4rk | I messed it up. I just want a new one with standard repositories | 18:22 |
| Angolares | no, I think the problem is that the repositories is not saving at the correct place | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | m4rk: I will get one and pastebin it for you. | 18:22 |
| m4rk | charlie-tca: thanks :-) | 18:22 |
| Grrai | I am about to install nvidia's driver for Geforce 9series, and I am recommended to set default run level so that system boots to vga-console. how do I do that? I know how to stop x, but not how not to boot to x... edit bootoptions in grublist? | 18:23 |
| charlie-tca | m4rk: 386 or amd64? | 18:23 |
| m4rk | i386 | 18:23 |
| zoredache | charlie-tca: does your sources.list have the architecure listed in it? | 18:25 |
| charlie-tca | It should; let me bring it up and see | 18:25 |
| charlie-tca | bringing up 7.10 now | 18:26 |
| charlie-tca | zoredache: Only for the cd | 18:27 |
| Angolares | Serial port that modem is connected to [ttyS0]? How can I know where is my modem conected to? | 18:27 |
| charlie-tca | !pastebin | 18:28 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 18:28 |
| Angolares | are u talking to me? | 18:28 |
| Angolares | ahh, ok | 18:29 |
| zoredache | Angolares: gernerallyIf I don't know, generally, I just have to start guessing numbers it is usually something like /dev/ttyS? | 18:29 |
| Angolares | but there are a lot of ttyS | 18:29 |
| zoredache | it might be easier to find if you install minicom. | 18:29 |
| charlie-tca | m4rk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/122502/ | 18:30 |
| zoredache | really, on my system there are only 4 | 18:30 |
| charlie-tca | Grrai: use recovery mode from the Grub menu; select root session | 18:31 |
| whabo | is there a way to get more than 800x600 resolution? on a 19 inch monitor connected to a laptop? help anyone? | 18:32 |
| Grrai | ah right, thanks charlie-tca | 18:34 |
| charlie-tca | whabo: try booting to recovery mode with it connected, select XFix from the menu. | 18:35 |
| whabo | ok thank you | 18:36 |
| charlie-tca | If it doesn't work, let us know | 18:36 |
| tempuser | Trying to get printing work by HP Laserjet 3100. | 18:37 |
| Trijntje | driver manager doesnt accept the sudo password. Any ideas whats wrong? | 18:38 |
| tempuser | Could I apply this: http://www.kivela.net/jaska/projects/lj3100/ | 18:38 |
| Angolares | could someone tell me if found what port is conected to the modem?? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/122504/ | 18:39 |
| tempuser | I suppose I should downgrade ghostscript and find some alternative to printtool at least. | 18:39 |
| m4rk | charlie-tca: thanks for that mate. just about to eat my dinner, I will let you know how I go though! | 18:39 |
| m4rk | zoredache: thanks also :) | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | You may need to login as the original user when Xubuntu was installed and use that password. | 18:40 |
| charlie-tca | Trijntje: ^ ^ ^ | 18:40 |
| tempuser | Printing does not work in Xubuntu 8.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip/+bug/332188 | 18:40 |
| Trijntje | Thats is what i do. I can use the password to do sudo apt-get install foo, but not to acces driver management | 18:41 |
| charlie-tca | tempuser: That pretty well says it. Did you got to the answers link given? | 18:41 |
| charlie-tca | What version, Trijntje | 18:42 |
| whabo | guys i tried xfix no luck | 18:43 |
| whabo | just that as im using an external monitor its just letting me use the max resolution on 800x600 | 18:44 |
| Trijntje | charlie-tca: I have just installed kubuntu 8.04 while keeping the home directory from ubuntu 8.04 | 18:44 |
| Pres-Gas | Wow, there are just too many people in #ubuntu | 18:45 |
| * Pres-Gas wonders how questons get answered in there with so many people. | 18:45 | |
| charlie-tca | Trijntje: that may be the problem. The config files might be fighting each other, I don't know. | 18:45 |
| Trijntje | charlie-tca: that is too bad, i thought it was quite possible to do that sort of thing with linux | 18:46 |
| nikolam | ok :) My girfriend is coming this evening | 18:47 |
| nikolam | And i can`t see external USB disk with movies | 18:47 |
| nikolam | It worked just hour ago and I umounted it and turned off | 18:47 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: does lsusb show it? | 18:47 |
| nikolam | Now I can`t see it in Xubuntu | 18:47 |
| charlie-tca | Trijntje: most things are possible. Sometimes though, it doesn´t quite work | 18:47 |
| nikolam | lsusb showed just the hub and mouse | 18:48 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: check the cable then | 18:48 |
| charlie-tca | Trijntje: that would be something to file a bug on, though | 18:48 |
| nikolam | And after re-connecting hub, lsusb get stuck for few minutes | 18:48 |
| nikolam | and now it displays the same. no hub, no disk | 18:48 |
| nikolam | but i have partition`s icons on desktop | 18:49 |
| Trijntje | charlie-tca: i just tried again and i get a different 'password required' windows (without the option to remember) and it works now | 18:49 |
| zoredache | do you have enough ports to connect it directly without the hub? | 18:49 |
| nikolam | even after it is disconnected | 18:49 |
| Trijntje | its magic.. | 18:49 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: what dmesg | tail says? | 18:49 |
| nikolam | i have just a sec | 18:49 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: use a pastebin | 18:49 |
| nikolam | i think that dmesg | tail is useless because it is full of ppp0 output | 18:51 |
| nikolam | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/122511/ | 18:51 |
| nikolam | still no device on usb | 18:52 |
| nikolam | i mostly can connect usb disk on machine only once per boot | 18:52 |
| zoredache | do you properly unmount it before you disconnect it? | 18:53 |
| nikolam | it is 690g amd motherboard with sb600 south bridge | 18:53 |
| nikolam | yes i use panel applet, desktop umount, thunar umount and nothing | 18:53 |
| whabo | can anyone please help me .. i cant get a higher resolution than 800x600 :S i am using a laptop with an external monitor ... (19 inch wide) i really want a higher resolution i can't see anything TOO big. help | 18:53 |
| nikolam | only pcmanfm umount says it can umoumt it | 18:53 |
| nikolam | And i umount it with sudo | 18:53 |
| nikolam | whabo, lspci to find out what graphics chip you use. Also check maximal resolution for external monitor in nbook specifications. What is model? | 18:54 |
| nikolam | I am on 64-bit hardy | 18:55 |
| whabo | ok i will 1 sec | 18:56 |
| tempuser | charlie-tca: Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by getting the answers link given. | 18:56 |
| charlie-tca | tempuser: from the bug report: There is more information in https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/54810 (Read especially my comments.) | 18:57 |
| charlie-tca | Did you read the question and answers? | 18:57 |
| whabo | yep its an ATI and the max resolution is Resolution: 1,680x1050 | 18:59 |
| tempuser | charlie-tca: Yes. I actually made the bug report. | 19:00 |
| nikolam | whabo, what ati | 19:01 |
| charlie-tca | tempuser: I see | 19:01 |
| whabo | ATI 340 M | 19:01 |
| whabo | its intergrated laptop graphics card | 19:02 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=164996 | 19:02 |
| tempuser | http://www.kivela.net/jaska/projects/lj3100/ I got from the answers page. | 19:02 |
| === Grrai is now known as Ghrr|ost | ||
| nikolam | whabo, it is RS200 chip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_ATI_chipsets | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | tempuser: Didn't look to me like the lj3100 is really gonna work in Ubuntu | 19:03 |
| whabo | yes it is that | 19:04 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188802 | 19:04 |
| whabo | thast what the lspci told me | 19:04 |
| whabo | RS200 | 19:04 |
| whabo | RS200/RS200m chip | 19:04 |
| nikolam | TheSheep, great, maybe i will set it on internal drive in that external case. but i think it foes the same for usb memory flash drives, nevermind, i will reboot for now.. | 19:05 |
| nikolam | whabo, it seems that open source driver is best for that chip | 19:06 |
| whabo | fglrx << should i try this one? | 19:06 |
| whabo | it says its for media accelerator drivers | 19:06 |
| nikolam | whabo, see #radeon, #radeonhd | 19:06 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: it's generally a hardware error, check the cable, the hub, the jumpers, etc. | 19:07 |
| nikolam | i don`t think you should try it | 19:07 |
| whabo | nikolam i am only getting 800x600 resolution | 19:07 |
| nikolam | TheSheep, ok, i think that is something about usb sontroller support on sb600 south bridge | 19:07 |
| nikolam | whabo, try to install radeon driver | 19:08 |
| whabo | ok thank you | 19:08 |
| nikolam | TheSheep, i found it : 690g/sb600 with usb: http://groups.google.com/group/x1250/browse_thread/thread/89b59d62236488e8?hide_quotes=no#msg_d7fee782ac1f7201 | 19:14 |
| nikolam | http://groups.google.com/group/x1250/browse_thread/thread/6c00f58258a24c35# | 19:15 |
| nikolam | TheSheep, http://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=120782765829450&w=2 | 19:15 |
| nikolam | no luck for me, seems that it is fixed in 2.6.25+ | 19:15 |
| TheSheep | nikolam: I bet iot's the cable, 99% of the time it is the cable | 19:16 |
| === Ghrr|ost is now known as Grr|oltergeist | ||
| nikolam | TheSheep, in this case it`s not. on other machine works fine and flash have probs too | 19:16 |
| nikolam | nevermind TheSheep , will reboot | 19:17 |
| tempuser | charlie-tca: maybe so, but could http://www.kivela.net/jaska/projects/lj3100/ applied somehow in ubuntu? | 19:19 |
| === Grr|oltergeist is now known as Grrai | ||
| Myrtti | tempuser: Last modified: Sat Sep 27 16:26:16 EET DST 2003 | 19:21 |
| whabo | how can i switch from XOrg to Xrandr because my log file of XOrg says that Xrandr output would be 1680x1050 > here is my log file thank you guys for everything http://pastebin.com/m5121401c | 19:22 |
| TheSheep | whabo: you are confused | 19:23 |
| TheSheep | whabo: xrandr is part of xorg | 19:23 |
| TheSheep | whabo: see xrandr --help | 19:23 |
| Trijntje | Hi all, i'm trying to get flash working in firefox on a fresh install. I have flashplugin-nonfree installed (via firefoxs ´install missing plugin') but somehow firefox cant use it | 19:24 |
| tempuser | Myrtti: so it was working a long time ago. | 19:24 |
| Myrtti | tempuser: what I mean is that I wouldn't blindly go attempting to use that page since it's quite old | 19:24 |
| TheSheep | tempuser: don't use that, install flashplugin-nonfree with synaptic | 19:25 |
| TheSheep | tempuser: sorry | 19:25 |
| TheSheep | Trijntje: that was for you :) | 19:25 |
| nikolam | whabo did you install radeon driver, also check #radeon and #radeonh channels for support | 19:26 |
| Trijntje | thesheep: I already have that installed, i think firefox did that | 19:27 |
| vidd | Trijntje, no... install it via synaptic or it wont install correctly | 19:28 |
| Trijntje | vidd, ok, ill uninstall it first, and then reinstall it | 19:31 |
| Trijntje | vidd, Plugin is not installed: md5 mismatch | 19:33 |
| Trijntje | says apt-get | 19:33 |
| Trijntje | well, ill try to fix it some other time, cu later all | 19:48 |
| likemindead | The following packages have been kept back: | 19:48 |
| likemindead | linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic | 19:48 |
| likemindead | linux-restricted-modules-generic lp-solve openoffice.org | 19:48 |
| likemindead | openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-base-core openoffice.org-calc | 19:48 |
| likemindead | openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-draw | 19:48 |
| likemindead | openoffice.org-filter-binfilter openoffice.org-impress | 19:48 |
| likemindead | openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-officebean | 19:48 |
| likemindead | openoffice.org-style-human openoffice.org-writer python-uno | 19:48 |
| likemindead | Why is this? | 19:48 |
| zoredache | !pastebin | likemindead | 19:49 |
| ubottu | likemindead: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 19:49 |
| likemindead | And how do I get them to install? | 19:49 |
| likemindead | M'kay. | 19:49 |
| likemindead | Any help? | 19:50 |
| zoredache | don't know, whatever it was that you tried to post didn't come through for me | 19:50 |
| likemindead | Ah... one sec. | 19:50 |
| crazygir | likemindead: use a fscking paste bin service damn it | 19:51 |
| likemindead | http://paste.ubuntu.com/122535/ | 19:51 |
| likemindead | M'kay. | 19:51 |
| likemindead | Why are they being "held back" & how do I rectify? | 19:52 |
| zoredache | ah, I was expecting more detail. What are you doing, what command did you run that gave you that output? | 19:52 |
| likemindead | Just a good ol' sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade is all. | 19:53 |
| likemindead | Weird. | 19:53 |
| zoredache | you probably want to use 'dist-upgrade' | 19:53 |
| zoredache | upgrade will not add/remove packages | 19:53 |
| likemindead | Ah. Those are Jaunty packages? | 19:53 |
| zoredache | if a package depends on something new, then it won't be allowed to be upgraded | 19:53 |
| likemindead | Oh. So this is normal for 8.10 users? | 19:54 |
| zoredache | likemindead: I don't know, are they? Are you pointed at jaunty in your sources.list? | 19:54 |
| likemindead | Negative. Ibex all the way. | 19:55 |
| zoredache | I don't know if it is normal. I have mostly been letting the update manager do all that stuff lately | 19:55 |
| likemindead | Yeah, if I run the GUI update mangaer it warns me that I can only do a "partial upgrade" but doesn't say why. | 19:56 |
| zoredache | do you have backports, or some other unofficial repositories enabled? | 19:57 |
| zoredache | anyway run the dist-upgrade. Apt will tell you exactly what it wants to add/remove | 19:58 |
| likemindead | No backports. Maybe the Banshee and OOo 3.0 repos. | 19:58 |
| likemindead | Ah. Cool. | 19:58 |
| likemindead | Just "sudo dist-upgrade" ? | 19:59 |
| zoredache | apt-get dist-upgrade | 19:59 |
| zoredache | sudo as well, if you aren't in a root shell | 19:59 |
| likemindead | Thanks. Also: http://paste.ubuntu.com/122536/ | 19:59 |
| crazygir | how come some packages are available from apt-get (cli) and not the gui package manager? | 20:09 |
| Myrtti | crazygir: depends on what package manager you use | 20:10 |
| Myrtti | gui one, I mean | 20:10 |
| Myrtti | I've noticed that Add/Remove doesn't list them all | 20:10 |
| Myrtti | synaptic has everything, though | 20:10 |
| zoredache | crazygir: I almost never use the gui except for automatic updates... It sure seems like the same should be avaiable in both though | 20:11 |
| crazygir | yea, add/remove sucks :P | 20:13 |
| crazygir | its searching capability is also rather blah | 20:13 |
| crazygir | I don't quite understand why both are distributed though | 20:14 |
| crazygir | seems like a good place for confusion | 20:14 |
| Myrtti | the other is for beginners, other for intermediate/experts | 20:17 |
| Sw3RvE | whats that ubuntu and xubuntu? | 20:17 |
| Myrtti | no, add/remove and synaptic | 20:18 |
| Sw3RvE | oh they seem to work about the same for me. lol | 20:19 |
| crazygir | Sw3RvE: not everything is available in add/remove | 20:22 |
| * crazygir curses GNU mv | 20:23 | |
| Sw3RvE | oh | 20:23 |
| crazygir | why can't it operate the same as every other unix mv? | 20:23 |
| * crazygir growls | 20:23 | |
| zoredache | whats does it do differently? | 20:23 |
| Sw3RvE | i wish i could get the internet to work on dsl | 20:23 |
| rocko | intronets | 20:29 |
| rocko | intertubes | 20:29 |
| rocko | interotubes | 20:29 |
| tempuser | Myrtti: There is newer upload at http://www.linuxprinting.org/download/printing/hplj_3100_3150/ bu the msgs are from year 2000. | 20:45 |
| charlie-tca | zoredache: apt-get, synaptic-package-manger, and add/remove use different databases, as I understand it. | 20:58 |
| atrox_ | Could somebody help me with repository indexes failing to download? | 21:12 |
| cody-somerville | Certainly | 21:13 |
| cody-somerville | What error are you getting? | 21:13 |
| Sw3RvE | is there a way to install a network adapter driver using terminal | 21:13 |
| atrox_ | hold on a sec, im just about to pastebin it | 21:13 |
| atrox_ | http://pastebin.com/m3d9bab33 | 21:14 |
| atrox_ | im a new linux user, so still finding my way around the system | 21:14 |
| atrox_ | any ideas? | 21:16 |
| TheSheep | atrox_: try a different mirror | 21:19 |
| whabo | can anyone help me with screen resolution | 21:24 |
| brandonban6 | what is the issue exactly? | 21:25 |
| brandonban6 | whabo, i meant :) | 21:25 |
| whabo | i want to change my LVDS to VGA-0 permanently . as my laptop screen is broken .. and its only giving me a 1024x768 on a 19 inch wide screen | 21:25 |
| whabo | i can show you my xorg.log | 21:26 |
| whabo | and my xrandr file | 21:26 |
| whabo | it is only giving me what my laptop's screen resolution is on my 19 inch wide screen | 21:26 |
| brandonban6 | are you using ati or Nvidia drivers? how are you editing the screen resolution? | 21:27 |
| whabo | i am using an ATI | 21:27 |
| whabo | its a 340 m laptop intergrated chip | 21:27 |
| whabo | i am editing my screen resolution through the settings manager in xubuntu | 21:28 |
| brandonban6 | so are you trying to set this with ATIconfig in terminal or through a GUI? | 21:28 |
| whabo | its only giving me what my aptop is capable of | 21:28 |
| whabo | GUI | 21:28 |
| whabo | however i tried xrandr command to shutoff LVDS woked but when i made VGA-0 as auto i lost my menu and icons i couldnt see anything but only the opened window | 21:29 |
| whabo | brandon do you want me to paste bin any logs? | 21:30 |
| brandonban6 | i sent you a message whabo | 21:32 |
| whabo | i saw it i sent u 1 back thx | 21:33 |
| m4rk | charlie-tca: are you still here? | 21:56 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 21:56 |
| m4rk | cool. I am getting connection timeoutes from some of the sources in that sources.list you gave me... us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com | 21:57 |
| m4rk | is that just me? some of them seem to work | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | They may just be real busy. You can try removing the us. from them. Then it goes straight to the main server. | 21:58 |
| m4rk | ok dokey | 21:59 |
| charlie-tca | Updates all over the USA go through us.archive for all versions | 21:59 |
| m4rk | what about the security. ones? | 21:59 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know any other server for them. It's just a very busy server right now. | 22:00 |
| m4rk | okey dokey | 22:00 |
| m4rk | I am in the UK, but I was getting timeouts from UK server also | 22:00 |
| m4rk | sounds like we need more mirrors :) | 22:00 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, as the user base grows, so must the servers | 22:01 |
| rocko | BIG | 22:08 |
| m4rk | I got http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main/debian-installer Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80] | 22:12 |
| m4rk | is this significant? | 22:13 |
| charlie-tca | You should not have any feisty sources | 22:14 |
| charlie-tca | Is that in 8.10? | 22:14 |
| charlie-tca | 7.10? | 22:15 |
| charlie-tca | Feisty has no more sources, so that should give a 404 error | 22:15 |
| m4rk | I dunno, I got it when running apt-get update using the sorces.list u gave me :( | 22:15 |
| charlie-tca | Nope. There are no Feisty sources in that list | 22:16 |
| m4rk | yeah I see that, I dunno what is going on | 22:17 |
| zoredache | do you have anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 22:18 |
| m4rk | however I can now boot to the xfce again, so this is progress | 22:18 |
| charlie-tca | no, not for 7.10 | 22:18 |
| m4rk | no, I don't have sources.list.d | 22:18 |
| * charlie-tca keep my mouth shut. He wasn't talking to me. | 22:20 | |
| m4rk | I ran apt-get dist_upgrade which seemed to finish but did not update a bunch of stuff. now I can get into xfce again (it kept dying before) and wicd seems to be working again. The Update Manager is offering me a partial upgrade now | 22:21 |
| charlie-tca | Did you run an apt-get update first? | 22:21 |
| m4rk | charlie-tca: yep | 22:21 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe it could only apply part of the updates, then it needs a restart, then update again | 22:22 |
| m4rk | ok | 22:22 |
| m4rk | oh crap, I actually do have a bunch of stuff in sources.list.d | 22:25 |
| m4rk | medibuntu.list, medibuntu.list.save and prerequisits-sources.list | 22:25 |
| charlie-tca | Then you need to make sure they get changed from feisty to gutsy | 22:27 |
| m4rk | do I just change "feisty" to "gutsy" in those files or do I need to get the latest files? | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, you should be able to do that. | 22:41 |
| zoredache | you can try changing them from fiesty to gutsy. If it doesn't work, then you'll need to disable/update them | 22:41 |
| * charlie-tca nods. What zoredache said. | 22:42 | |
| m4rk | well thanks guys. it is "running partial upgrade" with about 1 hours 5 minutes remaining | 22:55 |
| m4rk | I am gonna go and hit the sack now. I'll check it out in the morning. thanks for your help! :) | 22:55 |
| brandonban6 | man.....i could sure use some sleep right now........tis only 4:00 in the afternoon though | 23:08 |
| pteague | seems the 64bit doesn't have support for atom 330 yet :( | 23:24 |
| charlie-tca | What is atom 330? | 23:24 |
| pteague | from intel | 23:24 |
| pteague | here's the kernel panic trace i got - http://pastebin.com/m10cd6b0e | 23:25 |
| pteague | i've tried adding hpet, nohpet, noapic, acpi=off ... i keep getting same trace | 23:30 |
| charlie-tca | What does uname -m give you? | 23:30 |
| pteague | the problem is i can't get past the install screen... only thing that successfully works that i've tried is "test memory"... "boot from first hard disk" should probably work as well... but i can't even check cd for defects | 23:33 |
| pteague | & yes, the atom 330 is a 64bit... so is the atom 230 | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | Only thing I could suggest then is install the 32bit version | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | It will work. | 23:34 |
| rocko | why is xubuntu so buggy ? | 23:57 |
| charlie-tca | You will have to expand greatly on that one. | 23:58 |
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