=== FlareFlare is now known as Flare183 === Sancas_ is now known as sancas [00:37] I'm running in a 256M environment, would xubuntu take less memory then ubuntu (which seems to tap at the sight of my ram) [00:44] avuton: yes [00:45] If you use the Xubuntu packages [00:45] charlie-tca: then it will take significantly less ram? [00:45] If you chose to install open-office.org and other resource grabbers, it won [00:45] s/won/won't [00:46] OK, I'll give it a shot then [00:46] I don't know how significant, but it is less. [01:16] <[AfZ]TomServo1> so how long do i have to lurk before i can ask questions here [01:17] you can ask them immediatly, and if someone knows the answer, and they are awake they may answer [01:17] <[AfZ]TomServo1> wow [01:17] <[AfZ]TomServo1> awesome ;) [01:19] <[AfZ]TomServo1> i need to figure out how to install my proprietary graphics driver, or at least how to roll back to the one i know works in case [01:20] !nvidia [01:20] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:20] <[AfZ]TomServo1> and i have an intel 82845G onboard vid chip [01:23] <[AfZ]TomServo1> thanks for the link, though [02:04] For some reason during Xubuntu installation the installer hangs and crashes when starting the Partition editor, anyone experience this?? [02:05] 8.10 / 8.04 both CD's and alternate disk installation. [02:06] Do the cd's pass integrity checks [02:06] ? [02:06] Yes [02:07] Very strange, but I think there is a bug on it. If not, please file one, but make to give what your hardware is. [02:07] It is an old computer, I assume it is an issue with my harddrive [02:07] I had it happen with cd-rw's before, but not with cd-r's [02:08] Could be a bad hard drive, too. [02:08] When I start xubuntu in live CD mode, I can start the partition editor though. [02:08] It just fails on the install. [02:08] Yeah, it formats the disk during the install, after collecting the information [02:09] I assumed it would allow you to select the partition to format. [02:09] It just crashes before Checking Disk. [02:09] Oh, yeah. It is also determined to have 80 pin IDE cables [02:09] Is there a way to work around that? [02:09] If you have 40 wire cables, it will crash [02:09] That could be a possibility. [02:10] New drive cables. ATA-133, I think they sometimes call them. the 80-wire cables [02:10] Should be compatible with my current hardware [02:11] The end on the motherboard is normally blue. They are compatible with all the hardware except extremely old systems. Like the mid-90's or earlier won't work with them [02:12] I have only come across one P2 motherboard that would not accept them [02:12] nice, could be a cheap fix [02:13] yes, if that is it. It makes it look like the hard drive is dead. [02:13] Rather not spend a lot of money on a 10 year old computer [02:13] You could try 7.10 and see if it works. It doesn't require the new cables. [02:13] I'm on it [02:14] 8.04 and 8.10 both insisted on them, and they have to be connected correctly. The long end on the motherboard. [02:14] Even 80-wire cables fail, if they are not connected correct. [02:15] I'll try 7.10 first. [02:15] It will rule out the hard drive, at least. [02:15] Are the updates from 8.10 and 7.10 that noticable? [02:16] Er 7.10 and 8.10 [02:16] If it is I might just try a different OS. [02:16] yes. I think so. 8.10 has better wireless networking, easier configurations. [02:17] The cable thing is the linux kernel. All distrobutions ran into it. [02:17] Doh [02:17] I think it was found by redhat originally, but I am not sure. === Sancas_ is now known as sancas [02:18] Ahh [02:18] Well anything is better than XP S1 [02:18] SP1 [02:18] Well, yeah. [02:19] If 7.10 worked, you would know to get the new cables, right? [02:19] Yeah [02:19] It would rule out the HD [02:19] I'd just slap new cables on and allow it to update [02:20] If not, a cheap HD might be in order [02:20] I might have one laying aroundd [02:20] yeah, that too. [02:27] <[AfZ]TomServo1> what cmd do i use to find what video driver is currently being used by my vid card [02:27] <[AfZ]TomServo1> i tried the online docs already [02:27] lspci -vv [02:31] Thanks for the help charlie, have a good evening. [02:34] <[AfZ]TomServo1> well, maybe i should ask if i'm right before i try to change my video driver [02:35] <[AfZ]TomServo1> will the proprietary drivers run the video more efficiently than the prepackaged ones [02:36] <[AfZ]TomServo1> i mean, in general [02:37] it's Intel? [02:37] <[AfZ]TomServo1> yeah [02:38] To the best of my knowledge, they are equal for Intel video [02:38] <[AfZ]TomServo1> ok [02:39] Sorry. I don't think that was what you wanted. [02:40] <[AfZ]TomServo1> well not really, but i don't want to try something that could destroy my installation if i don't have to [02:41] Unless it is some of the latest stuff, it won't make much difference [02:42] <[AfZ]TomServo1> it isn't, heh [02:43] <[AfZ]TomServo1> but even so, i don't think my graphics should be running as slow as they are [02:43] 8.04 or 8.10? [02:43] <[AfZ]TomServo1> 8.1 [02:43] <[AfZ]TomServo1> xubuntu [02:44] That seems to be one of the drawbacks to 8.10. I have heard that a lot. [02:44] We're hoping Jaunty fixes whatever it is. [02:45] <[AfZ]TomServo1> i hope so too [02:47] <[AfZ]TomServo1> well thanks for your help [02:49] good luck === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [04:47] guys i need some help .. in xubuntu how do i change screen resolution? its not under settings [04:50] Settings->Settings Manager->Display [04:51] Mood okay what if i have an external monitor? [04:51] how can i see both under settings? [04:51] define "external monitor" [04:51] i have a laptop connected on an external monitor [04:52] so you have two monitors? [04:52] its on a 19 inch screen [04:52] no im only using the 19 inch screen not the laptop's monitor [04:53] and changing the Desktop resolution under Settings Manager doesn't do it? [04:53] no it only gives me 800x600 [04:53] what's your max resolution of your 19 inch? [04:53] my video card is recognised [04:54] 1600x1200 i think [04:54] not sure [04:54] i know u can do it through the terminal somehow [04:54] it used to work under pclinuxos and mint [04:55] hmm.... [04:55] i only use one monitor myself [04:55] but looks like some people have different levels of luck w/ different solutions: [04:55] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 [04:56] seems dependent on video card [04:56] well its a laptop .. but the laptop's screen is broken so i have a 19 inch monitor connected [04:57] somehow it only sees the laptop's resolution [04:57] laptop's screen resolution [04:57] yeah it seems from the online chatter that x/k/ubuntu have issues w/ dual monitors... goto that link i sent ya and start there [06:22] Anyone around? [06:23] yea but im not an expert. [06:31] roll do you need help with something? === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [06:43] Ah sorry, I was wondering why Xubuntu would fail installation when the partitioning part came around; yet when I run Wubi it installs fine. [06:44] And I was wondering if there is any disadvantage to running a dual boot(Wubi) compared to regular installation. [06:44] i cant help you with that. im sure someone here or in #ubuntu could help you with that. [06:45] You have no experience with Wubi? [06:45] i dont even know what it is. lol [06:45] i have dual boot with XP/Xubuntu using GRUB and it works fine. [06:46] Ah, well i assume the only disadvantage to dual-booting is a loss of HD space [06:46] Of which I have no concern since I have externals. [06:46] well yea of course [06:46] yea same here i dont keep a lot of things that i need on the computers drive. [06:46] i need a new external my 120gb is full [06:48] Yeah, they are super cheap now [06:48] Only problem is that the 250s are about 10 bucks cheaper than the 1TB's [06:48] i need a job so i can finish buying the rest of the parts for my new pc. [06:49] You get laid off or you schooling? [06:49] i still need: ram, cpu fan, motherboard, and a video card [06:49] i got fired and im in school now [06:49] i was making good money but i hated the job [06:49] Service Industry is booming now, I'd become a bartender. [06:50] I make around 56g a year and have a LOT of free time. [06:50] Thanks for the help. [06:56] quiet here tonight [06:56] a little too quite... [06:57] zored brad is having trouble with his desktop [06:58] when he enabled xfce to manage his desktop his menu and icons went crazy. [06:59] something is wrong with XFCE can i like reset it or something?? [07:00] zoredache you there? [07:03] my icons keep vanishing with any input. if i right click anyware on the desktop gone. if i try and start it gone. i already had ¨places¨ disapear i dont know how to bring it back? can somone please help me [07:10] my icons keep vanishing with any input. if i right click anyware on the desktop gone. if i try and start it gone. i already had ¨places¨ disapear i dont know how to bring it back? can somone please help me [07:13] what's this place? [07:15] I know nothing... [07:15] !hi | land [07:15] land: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [07:15] !xubuntu [07:15] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [07:16] * land says hi zoredache, ubottu [07:16] lol [07:16] guys, i need some help [07:18] ask a question, if someone knows they answer, they might just anser you [07:18] i'm on Mint; i'm havin' a hard time activating proprietary driver for my ATI graphics [07:18] Xfce keeps fucking with my desktop icons they keep vanashing with a click. evertime this happens i need to go into desktop settings and un check and re check allow Xfce to manage desktop [07:20] !nvidia [07:20] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [12:15] hi all [12:15] where is xorg.conf xubuntu 8.10 [12:23] what do you want make with xorg.conf [12:23] /etc/X11/xorg.conf === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [12:44] ye [12:44] yes [12:45] I do X -configure [12:45] hi [12:45] I have a problem with compilation libraries: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/122363/ [12:46] thats only happen at Xubuntu, i dont have this problem on ubuntu [12:46] any idea? [12:51] I suppose the version of hylafax you're trying to compile has some very distinct differences to the one that can be installed with the package manager [12:53] If i try with another older it could be better? [12:53] Angolares: why are you trying to compile it? [12:54] !info hylafax-client [12:54] hylafax-client (source: hylafax): Flexible client/server fax software - client utilities. In component universe, is extra. Version 2:4.4.4-7 (intrepid), package size 367 kB, installed size 964 kB [12:54] !info hylafax-server [12:54] hylafax-server (source: hylafax): Flexible client/server fax software - server daemons. In component universe, is extra. Version 2:4.4.4-7 (intrepid), package size 868 kB, installed size 3440 kB [12:55] beacuse i only have the source [12:55] erm. [12:55] so why don't you install it with the package manager so you'd have the binaries? [12:56] you don't need to compile it [12:56] where can i find it? [12:56] the binaries? [12:56] in synaptic, search for hylafax [12:56] ok, i found it [12:58] i tried and the OS said that could not find hylafax-doc [13:18] Finally [13:18] Hylafax is installed [13:18] Myrtti? [13:18] yes? [13:19] you know hylafax? [13:19] nope [13:19] ok [13:19] I've used a fax machine about twenty years ago [13:19] :-D [13:19] i have one how to of suse and hylafax... but i think is not the same [13:20] i write faxsetup and not really runs setup [13:27] Did anyone ever get OpenArena running in Xubuntu? It just doesn't start for me, any ideas? [14:32] hi [14:33] hi [16:06] hallo [16:07] hello cybernaut [16:07] hello, this is english-speaking, ok [16:07] yes [16:08] does anybody know if it exists for xfce: i am looking for something wich shows me when a cd is inserted and offers me the possibility to eject the cd within xfce [16:08] you mean "the drive shows up on the desktop"? [16:08] When you put your CD in the drive, it should popup in Thunar's mounted devices list, and if you right click it, you should get the "Eject" option [16:08] He "ejected" himself :p [16:09] When you put your CD in the drive, it should popup in Thunar's mounted devices list, and if you right click it, you should get the "Eject" option [16:10] SiDi: I think that was broke in Hardy, wasn't it? [16:11] Don't know, i never used Xubuntu Hardy [16:11] are you starting xfce from gdm or startx ? [16:11] SiDi: thank you, so thunar is the solution [16:11] vidd: the drive should show on desktop, i wish : [16:11] :) [16:12] btw, i am using intrepid [16:13] which windowmanager do you use ? [16:13] cybernaut, it used to do that...but that functionality has dropped [16:13] dropped ? hmm sounds strange [16:13] * vidd uses slim on some machines and gdm on others [16:14] slim sounds interesting, never heard of [16:14] with ootb xubu 8.04 xfce 4 and thunar 0.9.0 cd has popped up on desktop and a window of files [16:14] ootb? [16:14] cybernaut: you can use nautilus's desktop at worse (i feel someone's gonna slap me for this) [16:14] feel like * [16:14] out-of-the-box [16:15] *slap* SiDi [16:15] Thanks [16:15] so you think xfce is not the worst :) [16:15] Does thunar/Xfce use the gconf settings for displaying volumes on the desktop ? [16:15] no [16:15] * vidd actually prefers openbox/slim combo over xfce/gdm [16:18] cybernaut: We do show the cd drive in Jaunty. Also, putting in a cd makes it show up on desktop [16:20] Hi charlie-tca, jaunty is a new information for me. i will check it out. thank yo [16:20] cybernaut, jaunty is the next release....still in testing...due out in april [16:22] jaunty is post intrepid. wow [16:22] and jaunty with xfce has new options you mean [16:24] btw, when will xubuntu come with its own human-based theme ? :O [16:25] ive heard that ubuntu is leaving dirt-brown behind in 9.10 [16:25] Why would we? [16:28] Because it'd look better after a fresh install, charlie-tca :p [16:28] i don't like xfce's default xfwm :( [16:42] thank you for your infos [17:13] i like xfce's default theme....I think it's sharp. Each to their own I suppose. [17:14] * wormsxulla likes the rat [17:18] its a rat ? i thougt it is a mouse [17:19] :) i prefer to think of it as a rat (black rat for me) [17:19] I thought it was a mouse, too [17:20] * wormsxulla sulks [17:20] it could be a rat, maybe? [17:20] * wormsxulla smiles [17:21] (for somebody) [17:21] :) [17:24] its a mouse.... [17:25] you guys are destroying my dreams [17:25] the rat's tail is proportinally larger compared to the body [17:29] wormsxulla, your dreams are faulty. come up with replacement ones. [17:32] http://vertex.corpsmoderne.net/main.php?g2_itemId=36 [17:32] that's my wallpaper, you can see it's a big RAT :p [17:33] looks like a mouse to me... [17:33] All the rats I have seen are definitely different [17:34] ahahah [17:34] i actually can't really tell the difference, it's a matter of perspective [17:35] wormsxulla, you see a rat, you will be able to tell =] [17:35] * charlie-tca nods [17:47] which vm application (vmware/virtualbox) runs nicely on xubuntu? [17:47] *runs/installs [17:47] VirtualBox [17:48] is the one I use [17:48] <_Pete_> vmware server runs/installs nicely on my xubuntu [17:49] <_Pete_> and also have virtualbox [17:49] _Pete_: v1, or v2? [17:49] _Pete_: would you suggest one over the other? [17:49] <_Pete_> zoredache: v2 [17:50] <_Pete_> crazygir: it depends how you like to use those [17:50] I've really only used vmware, but having watched a friend bang his head through vmware/ubuntu, I'm starting to wonder [17:50] _Pete_: did you have to do something special to get the firefox-plugin for the console to work? [17:50] is there a way to get xfce 4.6 (rc1) into Xubuntu using a dpkg repository ? [17:50] <_Pete_> zoredache: no [17:51] trying to install vb returns an error, any way to find out what the actual error was? [17:51] personally I prefer vmware over virtual box, but then I have a farm of 15 ESX servers, so I have a bit of a bias towards building vms compatible with the rest of our infrastucture. [17:52] you sure do :) [17:52] understandably [17:52] glitsj16: it is in jaunty [17:52] !daily [17:52] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [17:53] <_Pete_> one thing that prevents me to use virtualbox is it's missing ability to run vm's in background which can be done with wmware workstation and server [17:53] what do you mean by background? [17:53] without the console up? [17:53] charlie-tca: thanks, i was specifically looking to see if the recent xfdesktop is able to present the right-click menu when compiz wallpaper plugin renders wallpapers on all workspaces [17:53] <_Pete_> crazygir: yes [17:54] in this case that's ok [17:54] but yea, I see why that would be frustrating [17:54] why does the package manager complain about errors but not *give* you the errors? [17:55] crazygir: because errors frightten some people? So they hid them? [17:55] zoredache: hiding is fine, but no "click here for more info" ? [17:55] that's completely unacceptable [17:56] sure, dumb down the system, that's fine, but don't limit the people who might know how to fix something [17:56] or be able to figure it out [17:56] *enable* the user [17:56] zoredache: how would you find out what the package manager b0rked on? [17:56] there is always the terminal if you want the nitty-gritty details [17:57] that'd be nice if I knew how to use the package manager in the terminal :P [17:57] guess I'll have to figure that one out [17:57] ah, to install a package you use a command like 'apt-get install packagename' [17:57] still seems unacceptably lame not to at least give you a way to get the error [17:58] to update the package definitions do a 'apt-get update' [17:58] to apply updates do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' [17:58] put an sudo in front of all of those if you aren't already in a root shell [17:58] to search? [17:58] apt-cache search pattern [17:58] ah apt-cache [17:58] silly linux [17:59] or just look on packages.ubuntu.com [17:59] * crazygir nods [17:59] thanks zoredache [18:00] HAH, so it works with apt-get [18:00] silly silly silly [18:00] I guess the gui package manager didn't like figuring out dependencies and installing them [18:02] maybe, it usually works mostly ok, but then I almost never actually use it [18:03] question.. I'm using xubuntu at work cause it is (hopefully) simple and usable, and windows drives me insane. When I reinstall my own unix systems, I simply backup/restore /etc and /home to get my settings back. Is this as simple/straightforward in xubuntu? [18:03] crazygir, yup [18:03] (ie, could I simply backup/restore /etc and /home?) [18:03] nice [18:04] crazygir: there are some things under /var you would want to backup too maybe. [18:04] there shouldn't be [18:04] which apps/services? [18:05] I for example really like knowing the list of packages installed which is found int /var [18:05] the idea is to be able to get back up and running after a wipe/install/upgrade as simply and quickly as possible [18:05] zoredache: good to know :) [18:08] hi [18:08] if you are running a web server or database server your data would be in /var/www or /var/lib/mysql [18:08] sure [18:08] that's not config though [18:09] no, but it is data. That is the type of thing you would want to backup/restore if you do a full system wipe [18:10] sure [18:10] could someone help me?? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/122496/ [18:11] Angolares: try doing an 'apt-get install build-essential' [18:11] I created a new partition and want to modify fstab to mount this, how do I determine what the UUID should be? [18:12] the command vol_id /dev/name would work [18:12] you could also just put the device name into your fstab instead of the UUID [18:12] i did it [18:12] but always the same message [18:13] cool cool [18:13] Angolares: just out of curiosity, is there some reasy why are you trying to compile it instead of using the version from the repositories? [18:14] Angolares: apt-get install hylafax-server hylafax-client [18:16] i did it too apt-get... but one part of that have an error and do not install faxgetty, and after that they said that the solutio is do a new compile ... [18:18] hi there! where can I get a fresh sources.list for my 7.10 xubuntu install? [18:19] o/ ! [18:19] I see, you might try doing an apt-get build-dep hylafax-server hylafax-client and then an apt-get source hylafax and rebuilding from that [18:20] ok, iḿ gonna trty [18:20] try [18:20] m4rk: did you delete the old one, or what? If you are just needed the standard repositories then you should be able to copy a source.list for a current and replace the release name with fiesty or whatever 7.10 was [18:21] zoredache: my old one is funted [18:22] I messed it up. I just want a new one with standard repositories [18:22] no, I think the problem is that the repositories is not saving at the correct place [18:22] m4rk: I will get one and pastebin it for you. [18:22] charlie-tca: thanks :-) [18:23] I am about to install nvidia's driver for Geforce 9series, and I am recommended to set default run level so that system boots to vga-console. how do I do that? I know how to stop x, but not how not to boot to x... edit bootoptions in grublist? [18:23] m4rk: 386 or amd64? [18:23] i386 [18:25] charlie-tca: does your sources.list have the architecure listed in it? [18:25] It should; let me bring it up and see [18:26] bringing up 7.10 now [18:27] zoredache: Only for the cd [18:27] Serial port that modem is connected to [ttyS0]? How can I know where is my modem conected to? [18:28] !pastebin [18:28] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [18:28] are u talking to me? [18:29] ahh, ok [18:29] Angolares: gernerallyIf I don't know, generally, I just have to start guessing numbers it is usually something like /dev/ttyS? [18:29] but there are a lot of ttyS [18:29] it might be easier to find if you install minicom. [18:30] m4rk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/122502/ [18:30] really, on my system there are only 4 [18:31] Grrai: use recovery mode from the Grub menu; select root session [18:32] is there a way to get more than 800x600 resolution? on a 19 inch monitor connected to a laptop? help anyone? [18:34] ah right, thanks charlie-tca [18:35] whabo: try booting to recovery mode with it connected, select XFix from the menu. [18:36] ok thank you [18:36] If it doesn't work, let us know [18:37] Trying to get printing work by HP Laserjet 3100. [18:38] driver manager doesnt accept the sudo password. Any ideas whats wrong? [18:38] Could I apply this: http://www.kivela.net/jaska/projects/lj3100/ [18:39] could someone tell me if found what port is conected to the modem?? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/122504/ [18:39] I suppose I should downgrade ghostscript and find some alternative to printtool at least. [18:39] charlie-tca: thanks for that mate. just about to eat my dinner, I will let you know how I go though! [18:39] zoredache: thanks also :) [18:40] You may need to login as the original user when Xubuntu was installed and use that password. [18:40] Trijntje: ^ ^ ^ [18:40] Printing does not work in Xubuntu 8.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip/+bug/332188 [18:41] Thats is what i do. I can use the password to do sudo apt-get install foo, but not to acces driver management [18:41] tempuser: That pretty well says it. Did you got to the answers link given? [18:42] What version, Trijntje [18:43] guys i tried xfix no luck [18:44] just that as im using an external monitor its just letting me use the max resolution on 800x600 [18:44] charlie-tca: I have just installed kubuntu 8.04 while keeping the home directory from ubuntu 8.04 [18:45] Wow, there are just too many people in #ubuntu [18:45] * Pres-Gas wonders how questons get answered in there with so many people. [18:45] Trijntje: that may be the problem. The config files might be fighting each other, I don't know. [18:46] charlie-tca: that is too bad, i thought it was quite possible to do that sort of thing with linux [18:47] ok :) My girfriend is coming this evening [18:47] And i can`t see external USB disk with movies [18:47] It worked just hour ago and I umounted it and turned off [18:47] nikolam: does lsusb show it? [18:47] Now I can`t see it in Xubuntu [18:47] Trijntje: most things are possible. Sometimes though, it doesn´t quite work [18:48] lsusb showed just the hub and mouse [18:48] nikolam: check the cable then [18:48] Trijntje: that would be something to file a bug on, though [18:48] And after re-connecting hub, lsusb get stuck for few minutes [18:48] and now it displays the same. no hub, no disk [18:49] but i have partition`s icons on desktop [18:49] charlie-tca: i just tried again and i get a different 'password required' windows (without the option to remember) and it works now [18:49] do you have enough ports to connect it directly without the hub? [18:49] even after it is disconnected [18:49] its magic.. [18:49] nikolam: what dmesg | tail says? [18:49] i have just a sec [18:49] nikolam: use a pastebin [18:51] i think that dmesg | tail is useless because it is full of ppp0 output [18:51] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/122511/ [18:52] still no device on usb [18:52] i mostly can connect usb disk on machine only once per boot [18:53] do you properly unmount it before you disconnect it? [18:53] it is 690g amd motherboard with sb600 south bridge [18:53] yes i use panel applet, desktop umount, thunar umount and nothing [18:53] can anyone please help me .. i cant get a higher resolution than 800x600 :S i am using a laptop with an external monitor ... (19 inch wide) i really want a higher resolution i can't see anything TOO big. help [18:53] only pcmanfm umount says it can umoumt it [18:53] And i umount it with sudo [18:54] whabo, lspci to find out what graphics chip you use. Also check maximal resolution for external monitor in nbook specifications. What is model? [18:55] I am on 64-bit hardy [18:56] ok i will 1 sec [18:56]