[00:00] <Guest31895> alooooooooooo
[00:02] <brad_> alright, i used openvpn
[00:03] <Suiko> ahhh good morning dudes
[00:03] <Suiko> anyone already up ?
[00:03] <brad_> moring
[00:03] <brad_> it's 6:00pm here
[00:03] <Suiko> then good evening =D
[00:04] <brad_> but good moring to you
[00:04] <Suiko> well i have a question
[00:04] <Suiko> to terminals
[00:04] <brad_> I'm not terminals
[00:04] <Suiko> to the topic terminals =D
[00:05] <brad_> with that, I can help
[00:05] <Suiko> how can i alter them?
[00:05] <brad_> ok, i need just a little more
[00:06] <Suiko> to change the backround color
[00:06] <Suiko> e.g.
[00:06] <brad_> ok, so i can't help, but i tryied
[00:06] <Suiko> ^^ that is was counts
[00:07] <chairman> ok i got a problem. i can't get my multiple desktop. i went to appearance and put how many i want and still got only 2
[00:08] <Suiko> gnomeuser ?
[00:08] <Suiko> with compiz ?
[00:09] <Suiko> chairman: are you a gnomeuser?
[00:09] <chairman> no.
[00:09] <Suiko> do you use compiz?
[00:09] <Suiko> that was a problem i had to face to
[00:09] <chairman> just installed kubuntu 8.10
[00:09] <yao_ziyuan> can i install kde3/qt3 dev libs in kubuntu 8.10?
[00:09] <Suiko> nope
[00:09] <yao_ziyuan> i want to compile QtCurve/KDE3
[00:10] <Suiko> yao_ziyuan its not possible...its not availiable in 8.10
[00:11] <Suiko> brad_ i wanted it to look more like this here http://polishlinux.org/stuff/screenshots/gentoo/gentoo_2007.1_Podstavsky.png
[00:11] <mefisto__> Suiko: what is not available?
[00:11] <yao_ziyuan> well,
[00:11] <yao_ziyuan> this is all because of kdocker.
[00:11] <yao_ziyuan> is there a kde4 app that can dock any app to system tray?
[00:11] <mefisto__> !info kde-style-qtcurve
[00:12] <yao_ziyuan> wlel
[00:12] <yao_ziyuan> well
[00:12] <Suiko> !info cedega
[00:12] <Suiko> nice
[00:13] <GWild> anyone have an issue with CUPS 'disappearing' from the system under Intrepid?
[00:13] <yao_ziyuan> but this one is outdated
[00:14] <yao_ziyuan> this old one has cyan color scheme
[00:14] <yao_ziyuan> the latest qtcurve/kde3 can use a blue color scheme
[00:14] <yao_ziyuan> anyway i'm trying to retire kdocker which is a kde3 app
[00:14] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: so all you want is an icon to start an app?
[00:15] <yao_ziyuan> mefisto__: yes, like alltray and kdocker
[00:15] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: or you want a running app docked in the tray?
[00:16] <yao_ziyuan> it seems kde 4.2's "run a program in the tray" already works
[00:20] <yao_ziyuan> not really
[00:27] <brad_> kde 4.2 is not that bad
[00:28] <chairman> hello did anyone get my question
[00:29] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: doesn't alltray work?
[00:30] <yao_ziyuan> alltray no longer works undre kde 4.2
[00:30] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: really?
[00:32] <yao_ziyuan> it seems alltray has a new version than ubuntu's
[00:32] <yao_ziyuan> i'm trying it out
[00:37] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: some things won't work. konqueror doesn't, but dolphin does
[00:38] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: I can't get konqueror to unhide
[00:38] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: and it won't work from commandline at all with some
[00:40] <solifugus> I set my sources for third party stuff.. now how can I upgrade from kde 4.1.4 to kde 4.2.x ??
[00:40] <yao_ziyuan> mefisto__: what are you talking about? alltray?
[00:41] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: yes
[00:42] <yao_ziyuan> confirmed.
[00:42] <yao_ziyuan> actually i want to dock thunderbird.
[00:42] <mefisto__> solifugus: you added the repo at http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 ?
[00:42] <yao_ziyuan> alltray doesn't work.
[00:43] <ganymede> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu <-- does anyone know where i can find the changelogs for package updates in this repo? I keep on getting updates in here through sudo apt-get update, then upgrade,but they're all 4.2.0 packages
[00:44] <solifugus> mefisto__: i will do that right now
[00:45] <mefisto__> solifugus: you could also just enable backports and update/upgrade
[00:46] <solifugus> mefisto__: after adding that repo and hitting "close".. adept crashed and won't restart.
[00:46] <chairman> i need help please
[00:47] <solifugus> How do you enable backports?  I'll have to reboot to make adept come up again (been through this before)
[00:47] <mefisto__> solifugus: sudo killall adept    to make sure it's really not running
[00:48] <mefisto__> !aptfix | solifugus
[00:48] <solifugus> not letting me type in konsole...  this happened earlier today, too..
[00:48] <solifugus> maybe I can try a virtual console
[00:48] <mefisto__> solifugus: can you copy/paste the command from here?
[00:49] <Guest12419> hi there
[00:49] <Guest12419> :)
[00:49] <Guest12419> can I ask you how can I uninstal ubuntu?
[00:49] <Guest12419> I want to try kubuntu
[00:49] <solifugus> mefisto__: I cannot copy paste from gui to virtual console.. but i can type in the virtual console.. but not konsole
[00:50] <solifugus> sudo killall adept says there's no adept
[00:50] <mefisto__> solifugus: sudo killall adept   in virtual console then
[00:50] <BluesKaj> !ask | chairman
[00:50] <solifugus> mefisto__: that's what i did.. all i could do
[00:51] <chairman> i had asked earlier tht i 'm having a problem w/the multiple desktops .i can get as many tht i want to perform the cube display rotation.
[00:51] <solifugus> I just want all these damn bugs to go away so I can work.....
[00:51] <BluesKaj> solifugus , sudo apt-get update ..might work
[00:52] <Azzco> For some reason mplayer processes keeps popping up for me a little now and then. Is this normal?
[00:52] <mefisto__> solifugus: do you still have windows looking normal? anything else not working? or just keyboard?
[00:52] <solifugus> kde 4.1.4 is just horrid..   everything's ok except cannot type in certain windows..
[00:52] <ign0ramus> Hey all.
[00:53] <solifugus> mefisto__: I'll just reboot now so my system will work normally until something breaks again.. in the mean time, try to get updated to kde 4.2
[00:53] <yao_ziyuan> so i recally can't comple a qt3/kde3 style in kubuntu 8.10?
[00:53] <yao_ziyuan> or a qt3/kde3 app?
[00:54] <solifugus> mefisto__: actually.. it's 5:00pm and time to go home.. I'll start again after dinner.
[00:54] <ign0ramus> I just installed the latest version of gstreamer and plugins, and now certain apps aren't working (Songbird & Cheese).  Cheese complains I'm missing gconfaudiosrc and gconfvideosink... these aren't packages. Anyone?
[00:55] <DaddyLonglegs> I'm running kubuntu 8.10 and gonna cleanly upgrade to KDE 4.2. Could anybody guide me through the safest way?
[00:59] <Silentstri> anyone can tell me how to install stuff on Dapper?
[01:01] <Silentstri> anyone can tell me how to install stuff on Dapper?
[01:01] <Shaun> probably a long shot, but does anyone here know how to successfully pair a keyboard and mouse in jaunty
[01:01] <Shaun> bluetooth
[01:01] <mdxz> anyone can help me, my browser cant connect internet
[01:01] <mdxz> but i cant chat here
[01:03] <mdxz> www.google.com
[01:06] <pisnaz> hello all
[01:07] <Silentstri> could anyone tell me how to install stuff on Dapper or direct me to somewhere/someone who can?
[01:07] <calamari> Silentstri: I prefer synaptic
[01:08] <calamari> wait.. Dapper is kinda old, isn't it?
[01:08] <pisnaz> Yeah I was just thinking is that not like 7.04 or so?
[01:08] <calamari> if it's old, they take down the repository info, so you can't install stuff
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[01:08] <pisnaz> apt-get?
[01:08] <Silentstri> no, its LTS
[01:08] <Silentstri> i just have no internet
[01:09] <Silentstri> oh wait
[01:09] <Silentstri> Ill hardwire and get the driver
[01:09] <Silentstri> whats the syntax?
[01:09] <pisnaz> for apt-get?
[01:09] <Silentstri> yes
[01:09] <Silentstri> im new
[01:09] <pisnaz> sudo apt-get --help
[01:09] <pisnaz> in the terminal
[01:09] <Silentstri> oh ok ty
[01:09] <pisnaz> and to browse sudo apt-cache search
[01:09] <Silentstri> so ctrl+alt+f1-f6
[01:10] <pisnaz> to install is sudo apt-get install [package]
[01:10] <Silentstri> ok
[01:10] <Silentstri> ty
[01:10] <pisnaz> or open a terminal window through X
[01:10] <pisnaz> np
[01:10] <Silentstri> tyvm
[01:11] <pisnaz> but if the repository info is down as calamari said...
[01:11] <Silentstri> no, dapper is LTS
[01:11] <Silentstri> its up till June
[01:11] <Silentstri> at least
[01:11] <pisnaz> ahh kk
[01:11] <Silentstri> might be early july
[01:12] <Silentstri> XD
[01:12] <Silentstri> question, whats root?
[01:12] <calamari> for what?
[01:12] <Silentstri> shutdown comman
[01:12] <Silentstri> command
[01:13] <Silentstri> it says shutdown: you must be root t do that!
[01:13] <mefisto__> sudo shutdown
[01:13] <pisnaz> So anyone noticed this issue and ideas or links to info re solving it?  Running a high resolution video file on a low res output results in major chopping/dropped frames.
[01:13] <calamari> sudo shutdown -h now
[01:13] <Silentstri> ty mefisto
[01:13] <pisnaz> or use -r for reboot
[01:14] <HappySmileMan> "sudo reboot" for reboot I think
[01:14] <Silentstri> what does sudo mean?
[01:14] <HappySmileMan> And "sudo halt" for shutdown
[01:14] <calamari> switch user and do something
[01:14] <HappySmileMan> They're aliased
[01:14] <pisnaz> it allows you to run a command as root without being root
[01:14] <calamari> by default it switches to root user
[01:14] <pisnaz> lol yeah old habits here :P
[01:14] <mefisto__> HappySmileMan's suggestions are easier to remember and do the same thing :)
[01:15] <calamari> lol I guess we do it the hard way :)
[01:15] <pisnaz> alt+ctrl+del is aliased also is it not ?
[01:15] <yao_ziyuan> found a thunderbird extension FireBird that can send thunderbird to tray
[01:15] <mefisto__> pisnaz: that usually brings up the logout/shutdown menu
[01:15] <yao_ziyuan> *FireTray
[01:15] <pisnaz> lol true mefisto :P  Think me and claimari may just be showing our age
[01:16] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: yes I was thinking of that but couldn't remember its name
[01:16] <Silentstri> WOA
[01:16] <Silentstri> lol
[01:16] <pisnaz> ahh sry true in X was not thinking about being in X
[01:16] <Silentstri> it worked xD
[01:17] <pisnaz> Silent being new to *nix be warned there is usally a few dozen ways to do something depending on who you ask lol
[01:17] <Silentstri> ive realized xD
[01:18] <pisnaz> so anyyone seen the issue I mentioned?  It is not a huge issue but one of those quirky ones.
[01:18] <mefisto__> and sometimes no way to do something :)
[01:18] <ton> olá amigos
[01:19] <Silentstri> brb
[01:19] <ton> alguém aqui fala portugues ?
[01:19] <pisnaz> blasphemer mephisto
[01:19] <pisnaz> :P
[01:20] <ton> alguem ?
[01:20] <pisnaz> sry ton I'm barely able to handle english on a good day
[01:21] <mefisto__> pisnaz: what issue? I can't find what you said
[01:21] <ton> ninguem fala portugues ?
[01:21] <mefisto__> !pt | ton
[01:21] <ton> tanks
[01:21] <ton> thanks
[01:22] <pisnaz> ahh k.  Playback of a high res video on a low res output is choppy.  for example I have the high res copy of elephants dream and playing it back on my system (@ 1024x768) results in massive dropped frames
[01:23] <mefisto__> pisnaz: using restricted graphics driver?
[01:23] <pisnaz> any other file plays back fine and is not apperaing to be codec dependent
[01:24] <pisnaz> on Intrepid with the nvidia driver through hardware drivers so yes
[01:24] <mefisto__> pisnaz: and what player are you using?
[01:24] <pisnaz> I will give the fact that I am on teh 96 driver
[01:24] <pisnaz> XBMC, VLC,
[01:25] <pisnaz> every other file runs great
[01:25] <pisnaz> but the only differene is they are usually at a lower resolution
[01:25] <mefisto__> pisnaz: do you have kaffeine or mplayer installed? if you do, change it to use xv video
[01:25] <pisnaz> I can try that
[01:25] <pisnaz> 1 sec
[01:27] <pisnaz> lol ok you have to many systems when ....I have to grab them they are installed on my other system may be a few
[01:28] <yao_ziyuan> mefisto__: that one is very good. i dislike the tray icon that shows the number of unread messages so i modified the extension.
[01:28] <bdizzle> is there a way to install that blasted silverlight on kubuntu?
[01:29] <mefisto__> bdizzle: you can install it as an extension for firefox
[01:29] <mefisto__> bdizzle: it's called moonlight I think
[01:29] <mefisto__> bdizzle: microsoft open source :)
[01:29] <pisnaz> oh?  never even use silverlight on my win systems lol hoping to avoid it as long as I can
[01:30] <bdizzle> yeah, I've got it
[01:30] <bdizzle> firefox is giving me errors
[01:31] <mefisto__> bdizzle: maybe with wine ?
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[01:31] <bdizzle> yeah, I'll have to try that next
[01:32] <bdizzle> what is the sudo apt-get for firefox 3.0 ?
[01:32] <Wargasm> it should automatically grab 3.0, right?
[01:32] <bdizzle> yeah
[01:32] <mefisto__> bdizzle: firefox-3.0     but just firefox should get it too
[01:32] <bdizzle> gah, I'm so tired, the brain isn't thinking anymore
[01:32] <Wargasm> did you sudo apt-get update
[01:32] <bdizzle> yeah, I got it
[01:32] <Wargasm> kk
[01:33] <bdizzle> oiy? or not
[01:33] <magg> hello
[01:33] <pisnaz> well I'll be.  Mephisto the playback works via mplayer using xv video (default)
[01:34] <mefisto__> pisnaz: smplayer uses mplayer but has a nicer interface, if you want to try that
[01:35] <magg> is there any possibility to solve the scrollbar error in firefox 3 on intrepid ibex kde 4.2?
[01:35] <pisnaz> mplayer is ok lol, intresting though  wonder why vlc and XBMC peter out doing it and if I can set them in a similar fashion
[01:35] <magg> it looks a little bit weird
[01:36] <mefisto__> pisnaz: I think vlc uses its own codecs. it's hard to configure too much without breaking it
[01:36] <pisnaz> hrrmm
[01:37] <magg> think so too, cause it works fine in windows an mac too without installing any codecs
[01:37] <pisnaz> I have a lead now though which is better than typing chaos into gogle and taking my chance lol
[01:37] <mefisto__> !vlc
[01:37] <pisnaz> tks:P
[01:37] <mefisto__> !info vlc
[01:38] <mefisto__> its in multiverse because of the codecs. not completely open source
[01:38] <pisnaz> intresting...
[01:38] <mefisto__> maybe
[01:38] <pisnaz> I had a codec issue when I tried to use to convert the file yesterday when I was testing
[01:39] <pisnaz> of course that was at 2am so my memory may be a bit off lol
[01:39] <jithin1987_> Hi any laptop users with intel chipset facing high cpu usage with kde 4 desktop effects
[01:39] <jithin1987_> ?
[01:39] <pisnaz> ohh just noticed something...have sysnc issues with mplayer playing it
[01:40] <mefisto__> pisnaz: audio out of sync?
[01:40] <pisnaz> sry jithin mine is on an amd
[01:40] <pisnaz> yeah nbd that can be fixed
[01:40] <magg> i have a core2duo
[01:41] <magg> and no probs so far
[01:41] <magg> cpu usage is normal
[01:41] <pisnaz> what is the gpu though jithin?
[01:41] <pisnaz> an intel one?
[01:42] <mefisto__> pisnaz: did you try kaffeine with xv video? it uses xine and on mine it usually plays audio in sync, but doesn't look as good as mplayer (I have ati graphics)
[01:43] <pisnaz> odd that kaffine is not fount through adept
[01:43] <pisnaz> found*
[01:44] <pisnaz> just checking soemthing mephisto
[01:44] <pisnaz> something* (egads typing is going downhill fast) it looks to still be dropping frames though not as jarring via mplayer
[01:45] <pisnaz> yeah it is it just smoothes it out a ton better
[01:46] <pisnaz> running in 1/2 size setting
[01:48] <pisnaz> oh dagnabit would help if I spelt kaffeine correctly eh? :P
[01:51] <ghoststri> whats ndiswrapper known as for the sudo apt-get command
[01:51] <ghoststri> its sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-common.???
[01:51] <ghoststri> right?
[01:52] <Wargasm> i think so
[01:52] <Wargasm> when in doubt, use adept
[01:52] <Wargasm> :P
[01:52] <ghoststri> adept is messed
[01:52] <Wargasm> don't hate the GUI
[01:52] <ghoststri> dunno how to use
[01:53] <Wargasm> its easy
[01:53] <ghoststri> im sorta rushin
[01:53] <ghoststri> so Im using konsole
[01:53] <ghoststri> is it .gz or .pkg or something?
[01:53] <Wargasm> you could have found it faster than asking in irc
[01:53] <Wargasm> not sure
[01:53] <ghoststri> i like I r c
[01:53] <pisnaz> use apt-cache search ndiswrapper*   ?
[01:53] <Wargasm> well i do too but it's not the fastest way
[01:54] <ghoststri> in konsole pisnaz?
[01:54] <pisnaz> yep
[01:54] <ghoststri> wtf is a regex compilation error?
[01:54] <pisnaz> should give you the package names matching that with the wildcard
[01:54] <pisnaz> err lol
[01:55] <mefisto__> ghoststri: what did you type?
[01:55] <ghoststri> apt-cache search ndiswrapper* ?
[01:55] <mefisto__> ghoststri: you don't need the * because it finds everything with "ndiswrapper" anyway
[01:56] <ghoststri> oh ok ty
[01:56] <ghoststri> same error
[01:56] <pisnaz> ndiswrapper-common - Common scripts required to use the utilities for ndiswrapper   was what I got here as one
[01:56] <ghoststri> i used apt-cache search ndiswrapper ?
[01:56] <ghoststri> so I need sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-common?
[01:57] <ghoststri> im on dapper
[01:57] <mefisto__> ghoststri: that's a weird error
[01:57] <pisnaz> that is just to see package names not to install though sounds like you may have a issue with your cache
[01:57] <ghoststri> oh boy -_-'
[01:57] <mefisto__> why are you still on dapper?
[01:57] <ghoststri> im new to kubuntu
[01:57] <mefisto__> !dapper
[01:58] <ghoststri> and I found a live cd for it
[01:58] <pisnaz> eek
[01:58] <ghoststri> i dunno how to upgrade
[01:58] <ghoststri> and this is 7yr old comp
[01:58] <pisnaz> what hardware does it have roughly?
[01:58] <ghoststri> uuhhhhhh
[01:58] <pisnaz> rofl
[01:58] <ghoststri> pentium 3
[01:59] <mefisto__> ghoststri: might be easier to just download a new livecd and do a fresh install.
[01:59] <ghoststri> hmmmmm
[01:59] <mefisto__> !upgrade
[01:59] <pisnaz> in console type cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:59] <ghoststri> cool
[01:59] <ghoststri> ok
[01:59] <ghoststri> Aou
[01:59] <ghoststri> lol
[01:59] <ghoststri> ok
[01:59] <ghoststri> ill type
[01:59] <ghoststri> hold on
[01:59] <pisnaz> and as mephisto said it may be easier to get a new cd
[01:59] <ghoststri> Processor: 0
[02:00] <ghoststri> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
[02:00] <ghoststri> cpu family      : 6
[02:00] <pisnaz> in the cpu info look for model name
[02:00] <ghoststri> model           : 11
[02:00] <ghoststri> oh
[02:00] <ghoststri> ok
[02:00] <ghoststri> here
[02:00] <ghoststri> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Mobile CPU      1133MHz
[02:00] <pisnaz> oh
[02:01] <ghoststri> cache size      : 512 KB
[02:01] <pisnaz> hrrmm
[02:01] <ghoststri> to old?
[02:01] <pisnaz> np I know the rest :P
[02:01] <pisnaz> not sure
[02:01] <ghoststri> im a 14 yr old kid, gettin good comps is a challenge
[02:01] <pisnaz> my old p-111 is a dual proc set up as a server :P
[02:01] <ghoststri> p111??
[02:01] <ghoststri> oh
[02:01] <ghoststri> pentium
[02:02] <pisnaz> pentium 3
[02:02] <ghoststri> XD
[02:02] <mefisto__> ghoststri: I have an older laptop, pentium 2, running xubuntu. that's ok
[02:02] <ghoststri> ok
[02:02] <ghoststri> cool
[02:02] <ghoststri> too bad its my first kubuntu as well
[02:02] <ghoststri> oh well
[02:02] <pisnaz> yeah Mephsto think that may be the nest idea eh intrepid may be a bit to hungry for that old p-iii?
[02:02] <ghoststri> ok, so I need to install ndiswrapper to get my external anntenna working, ive brought down my whole wireless network to connect this pile of junk
[02:03] <mefisto__> pisnaz: maybe. the video hardware would probably make it slow
[02:04] <pisnaz> yeah That is what I am thinking...trying to recall my old p3 it had a rage gpu so if it is similar ..or a olf gf2 series
[02:04] <ghoststri> my goal is to learn about kubuntu in general, im building a good comp in the summer and Im going to put kubuntu on it
[02:04] <ghoststri> so I really just need the basics right now
[02:04] <pisnaz> but xubuntu or possibly 8.04 kubunut?
[02:05] <pisnaz> np ghost just thinking if you can get a newer copy you should have less issues but we can not get you to new or else it will run nasty lol
[02:05] <ghoststri> loll
[02:05] <ghoststri> i c
[02:05] <ghoststri> ok
[02:06] <ghoststri> I downloaded ndiswrapper-1.54.tar.gz
[02:06] <ghoststri> but I dont know what to do with it
[02:06] <ghoststri> ah my other comp dced
[02:06] <ghoststri> finally
[02:07] <silentstri> I downloaded ndiswrapper-1.54.tar.gz
[02:07] <silentstri> but I dont know what to do with it
[02:07] <silentstri> something to do with adept right?
[02:07] <pisnaz> ok you may be able to get that working ghost but ndiswrapper is by nature a nasty fellow, why using a package wuld of been good
[02:07] <silentstri> oh boy.....
[02:08] <pisnaz> sry not ghost meant you silent
[02:08] <silentstri> xD
[02:08] <silentstri> so
[02:08] <silentstri> is there
[02:08] <silentstri> another way to make the driver work?
[02:08] <pisnaz> extract you silent it should drop into a dorectory (use ark)
[02:08] <silentstri> i did
[02:08] <pisnaz> is there a readme in the contents?
[02:08] <silentstri> loooking
[02:09] <silentstri> k got it
[02:09] <silentstri> it is referring me to INSTALL text file
[02:09] <silentstri> looking some more
[02:09] <pisnaz> kk read through it it should (usually) walk you through
[02:09] <silentstri> kk
[02:10] <silentstri> i need a kernal that is atleast 2.6.16 with header files for the kernal. Do I have that?
[02:10] <pisnaz> I am a bit foggy (it has been a while) but I think you will need the windows driver file for that wifi card also
[02:11] <silentstri> ya, got that too xD
[02:11] <mefisto__> what card is it anyway?
[02:11] <silentstri> this isnt a new problem
[02:11] <silentstri> ><
[02:11] <silentstri> mefisto: WPC54G
[02:11] <silentstri> v3
[02:12] <silentstri> errors already
[02:12] <silentstri> -_-
[02:12] <silentstri> it said to use this command
[02:12] <silentstri> tar zxvf ndiswrapper-version.tar.gz
[02:12] <silentstri> but when used, it gives me this
[02:12] <pisnaz> if you used ark you already extracted it :P
[02:12] <silentstri> tar: ndiswrapper-version.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[02:12] <silentstri> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:12] <silentstri> tar: Child returned status 2
[02:12] <silentstri> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:12] <silentstri> oh ><
[02:12] <silentstri> kk
[02:13] <pisnaz> type uname -r in the terminal
[02:13] <pisnaz> that will tell you your kernel version
[02:13] <silentstri> gave me 2.6.15-23-386
[02:13] <silentstri> im 1 short
[02:14] <pisnaz> oh boy
[02:14] <silentstri> i need 2.6.16
[02:14] <mefisto__> did you try with b43-fwcutter? don't know much about wifi so I'm not sure if that will help with your hardware
[02:14] <pulaski> Hello,  I have a few lines of javascript in an html page here ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/122640/   My firebug console indicates that line 85: var str = document.frm1.txtinput.value;  has an undefined term or varible "src" I'd appreciate any suggestions as to why this is so or even better, an explanation of what the assigned value "document.frm1.txtinput.value"  means or how it works?
[02:15] <silentstri> so for me, its upgrade or go internet-less
[02:15] <mefisto__> silentstri: are you the same person as ghoststri ?
[02:15] <silentstri> yes
[02:15] <silentstri> stri
[02:15] <silentstri> thats the key
[02:15] <silentstri> i appear as Silent, Ghost and like.... quantum or something
[02:15] <silentstri> not sure
[02:15] <silentstri> but its always Stri
[02:16] <mefisto__> silentstri: you can upgrade to hardy from dapper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[02:16] <pisnaz> I would suggest upgrade and if/when you do hook the system to a wired lan first get updates and check for a driver prebuilt (restricted drivers)
[02:16] <silentstri> *gulp*
[02:16] <Guest80116> anyone feel like helping a newb install a printer?
[02:16] <silentstri> will that wipe all my stuff?
[02:16] <silentstri> this is my work laptop
[02:16] <silentstri> I can deal with no internet
[02:16] <pisnaz> if you do it the way mephisto said no.
[02:16] <silentstri> Ill buy a LAN cable
[02:17] <silentstri> oh
[02:17] <silentstri> ok
[02:17] <silentstri> brb
[02:17] <silentstri> i hope
[02:17] <pisnaz> but you will need inet access on that system
[02:17] <mefisto__> silentstri: no, but it might not work for some reason. but your data will be safe if it's in your home dir
[02:17] <pisnaz> unless that is an offline way mephisto?
[02:18] <mefisto__> pisnaz: no, that link is network (internet) upgrade
[02:18] <silentstri> where do I find the updates repository
[02:19] <pisnaz> guest what type/connection is the printer?
[02:20] <silentstri> uhm..... where do I find this upgrade repository
[02:20] <Guest80116> mfc-7820n on a network
[02:20] <pisnaz> smb share or?
[02:20] <mefisto__> silentstri: in /etc/apt/sources.list   or in adept I think you can enable it. don't know how it is in dapper
[02:20] <silentstri> ok
[02:20] <pisnaz> Silent: It should say in that file mephisto linked
[02:21] <silentstri> no, it doesnt
[02:21] <silentstri> ><
[02:21] <pisnaz> !JOY! lol
[02:21] <mefisto__> silentstri: look in sources.list and find the line that says dapper-updates and remove the # at the beginning of that line
[02:21] <pisnaz> rofl even funnier
[02:21] <silentstri> ok
[02:21] <mefisto__> lol. poor bot
[02:22] <pisnaz> sad sad bot
[02:22] <pisnaz> guest how is it linked into the network?  directly or through another pc on *nix or windows?
[02:22] <Guest80116> it tcpip
[02:22] <Guest80116> to the router
[02:22] <silentstri> i dont have /etc/sources.list
[02:23] <silentstri> or anything in etc called sources
[02:23] <mefisto__> silentstri: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <pisnaz> ok and lastly whay version of Kubuntu are you on?
[02:23] <silentstri> o ok
[02:23] <Guest80116> 8.04
[02:23] <silentstri> aha ty mefist
[02:23] <silentstri> mefisto
[02:24] <pisnaz> k bear with me I am on 8.10 so may not be exactally oin the same locations I mention
[02:24] <mefisto__> silentstri: after you change and save that, sudo apt-get update
[02:24] <PSiL0> So, has anyone successfully used a projector 08.10 with fglrx installed (8.543)?
[02:24] <Guest80116> k
[02:24] <silentstri> ok
[02:24] <PSiL0> which entries should I add to my xorg.conf?
[02:24] <pisnaz> go to the menu ans system/printing
[02:25] <PSiL0> also, has anyone managed to install the sesame2 backend to get strigi working?
[02:25] <Guest80116> k
[02:25] <silentstri> why is it telling me I dont have write access?
[02:25] <magg> anyone knows a repo where i can get the nvidia 180.29 driver?
[02:26] <Guest80116> what to check?
[02:26] <pisnaz> new printer
[02:26] <magg> mix dist is intrepid ibex
[02:26] <BluesKaj> silentstri , alt+F2, kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:26] <mefisto__> silentstri: what are you editing with (it needs sudo for commandline or kdesu for gui editors)
[02:26] <magg> my dist, sry
[02:26] <silentstri> ok, Im typing what blueskaj said
[02:27] <mefisto__> silentstri: if kdesudo doesn't work, use kdesu
[02:27] <pisnaz> awwww mephisto I was gonna get him to use pico :P
[02:27] <BluesKaj> copy and paste works too, silentstri
[02:27] <Guest80116> k, i'm walking thru it, now at backend selection, do I need network printer?
[02:27] <pisnaz> ohhh or vi mmmmm
[02:27] <silentstri> oh lol
[02:27] <silentstri> ><
[02:27] <pisnaz> yep
[02:27] <pisnaz> network printer
[02:28] <silentstri> o crap
[02:28] <silentstri> lots, i mean LOTS of errors
[02:28] <silentstri> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[02:28] <silentstri>   Major opcode:  145
[02:28] <silentstri>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:28] <silentstri>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:28] <silentstri> Failed to open device
[02:28] <silentstri> a lot of that
[02:28] <mefisto__> !paste
[02:28] <BluesKaj> !paste  | silentstri
[02:28] <silentstri> oops
[02:28] <silentstri> srry
[02:28] <silentstri> is 1 line ok?
[02:28] <silentstri> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[02:28] <silentstri>   Major opcode:  145
[02:28] <silentstri>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:28] <silentstri>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:28] <silentstri> Failed to open device
[02:29] <Guest80116> k, trying to remember the ip address :)
[02:29] <silentstri> oops
[02:29] <silentstri> srry
[02:29] <silentstri> really
[02:29] <silentstri> srry
[02:29] <silentstri> WARNING: Can't open /root/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml this is another thing it gave me
[02:30] <BluesKaj> silentstri, are you using the alt key and F2 key then entering kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list in the dialog box ?
[02:30] <silentstri> no, im using the konsole to do that
[02:30] <silentstri> but I used kdesu
[02:30] <Guest80116> what is the normal port?
[02:30] <silentstri> cause kdesudo didnt work
[02:30] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: he's on dapper, maybe kdesudo doesn't exist
[02:30] <silentstri> it doesnt work
[02:30] <BluesKaj> silentstri ok, kdesu then
[02:31] <mefisto__> silentstri: kdesu instead
[02:31] <silentstri> i did
[02:31] <silentstri> it opend eventually
[02:31] <pisnaz> ack now I am offguard guest I forget 1 sec
[02:31] <silentstri> and it says a lot of my lines are commented out e the installer because it failed to verify
[02:31] <silentstri> should I open those?
[02:32] <BluesKaj> bbl ..phone
[02:32] <mefisto__> silentstri: paste the whole thing in pastebin so we can see
[02:32] <Palermo_> hey guys how can i setup software raid in kubuntu? ive already installed the system and i want to raid two 1.5tb harddrives together?
[02:32] <silentstri> ok
[02:32] <Guest80116> did a scan and looks like it found the printer
[02:33] <pisnaz> hrrmm on a whim Guest try typing the ip of your printer into a web browser it may give you the web access which should list the prot
[02:33] <pisnaz> 9100 is the default I think
[02:33] <pisnaz> ahh kk perfect :P
[02:33] <Guest80116> thx, figgered that out, actually pinged it
[02:33] <pisnaz> good then?
[02:34] <Guest80116> so far, just running thru the setup, will advise
[02:34] <silentstri> http://pastebin.com/d477e701a
[02:35] <silentstri> hey Dakreech
[02:36] <Guest80116> got good test page  :)   do i need to set up any allowed/denied users?
[02:36] <pisnaz> err Pal I am not positive (only played with HW raids) but I believe you have to specify this at first install
[02:36] <pisnaz> most likely not Guest this a home network?
[02:36] <mefisto__> silentstri: line 10 is dapper-updates
[02:37] <silentstri> ok
[02:37] <Guest80116> yes, home net
[02:37] <pisnaz> yeah just leave it open then
[02:37] <silentstri> so now I go to konsole and type.... ?
[02:37] <Guest80116> k
[02:38] <pisnaz> lol reminds me I should set up my network printer lol
[02:38] <mefisto__> silentstri: and lines 35 and 38 too (the security ones)
[02:38] <silentstri> ok
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Hi silentstri
[02:39] <DaSkreech> I'll assume that was for me ;)
[02:39] <Guest80116> kewl!!! Thx!!!  now how 'bout the scanner functions ;)
[02:39] <silentstri> ya
[02:39] <pisnaz> rofl
[02:39] <pisnaz> errr this is a MFD I gather
[02:39] <Guest80116> mfc ya
[02:40] <pisnaz> hrrm
[02:40] <pisnaz> what is the mnake/model number again?
[02:40] <Guest80116> mfc-7820n
[02:40] <pisnaz> not sure if twain is done via tcp/ip or not never played with one
[02:41] <pisnaz> MFD = multifunction device btw :P
[02:41] <Guest80116> mfc= multifunction copier :)
[02:42] <silentstri> ok i did that
[02:42] <silentstri> now what do I input to konsole
[02:42] <pisnaz> rofl dang acronyms
[02:42] <neothecat> i have a stupid non-ubuntu question...  if i am the only one editing a doc on several machines, is there any reason to choose to use webdav over, say, SVN?
[02:43] <pisnaz> ok digging a tad re the scanner functions
[02:44] <Guest80116> thx, preciate you walking an old windoze head into greener pastures :)
[02:44] <DaSkreech> neothecat: Ease of use?
[02:44] <pisnaz> np ok open adept
[02:44] <DaSkreech> Guest80116: Welcome to Linux and Kubuntu!
[02:44] <pisnaz> and search for sane
[02:45] <neothecat> DaSkreech: ok, thanks
[02:45] <mefisto__> silentstri: so you saved sources.list? then sudo apt-get update
[02:45] <silentstri> mefisto tyvm
[02:45] <silentstri> k
[02:45] <silentstri> WOW
[02:45] <silentstri> it did stuff
[02:45] <Guest80116> uh....where is that?
[02:45] <silentstri> lots of stuff
[02:45] <silentstri> ill tell when its done
[02:45] <Guest80116> got it
[02:45] <silentstri> ^-^
[02:46] <silentstri> k done
[02:46] <silentstri> now what?
[02:46] <mefisto__> silentstri: do you want to try the update to hardy now?
[02:46] <silentstri> how long that take?
[02:46] <pisnaz> k now need one more thing looking one sec.
[02:47] <silentstri> ah what the heck
[02:47] <silentstri> sure
[02:47] <silentstri> lets go
[02:47] <DaSkreech> Update to hardy?
[02:47] <mefisto__> silentstri: not sure, but it will take some time to download everything
[02:47] <silentstri> ok
[02:47] <silentstri> ill try
[02:47] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: from dapper to hardy
[02:47] <DaSkreech> oooh
[02:47] <DaSkreech> Yeah I wanna see that :)
[02:47] <mefisto__> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[02:47] <silentstri> yay more pros
[02:48] <silentstri> SHES GONNA BLOW
[02:48] <silentstri> jk
[02:48] <silentstri> brb
[02:48] <DaSkreech> Sure hope he has a /home partition
[02:48] <silentstri> error
[02:48] <DaSkreech> assuming that silentstri is a he :)
[02:48] <silentstri> i do
[02:48] <silentstri> i think
[02:48] <silentstri> and i am
[02:48] <DaSkreech> Ok then upgrade away :)
[02:48] <silentstri> error
[02:49] <silentstri> couldnt find the package update-manager core
[02:49] <silentstri> ._.
[02:49] <silentstri> and by a home partition
[02:49] <silentstri> you mean
[02:49] <mefisto__> silentstri: when you did sudo apt-get update where there any errors downloading packages?
[02:49] <silentstri> this right? /home/silentstri16
[02:49] <pisnaz> guest.. try these instructions
[02:49] <pisnaz> http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/instruction_scn1b.html
[02:50] <silentstri> no, it said
[02:50] <silentstri> read package lists... Done
[02:50] <silentstri> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:50] <Guest80116> k, will take a look, thx
[02:50] <silentstri> E: Couldn't find package update-manager-core
[02:50] <pisnaz> np
[02:52] <pisnaz> brb coffee
[02:52] <mefisto__> silentstri: does it find it with: apt-cache search update-manager-core
[02:52] <silentstri> it didnt do anything
[02:52] <silentstri> went like this
[02:53] <silentstri> silentstri16@silentstri16:~$ apt-cache search updage-manager-core
[02:53] <silentstri> then blinked
[02:53] <silentstri> and moved on
[02:53] <mefisto__> update not updage
[02:53] <silentstri> back to silentstri16@silentstri16
[02:53] <silentstri> ><
[02:53] <silentstri> srry
[02:53] <mefisto__> :)
[02:53] <silentstri> gettin a bit tired
[02:53] <silentstri> im still sick ><
[02:53] <pisnaz> lol...been there done that waht 30 min ago was it:P
[02:53] <silentstri> same result though
[02:54] <silentstri> lol
[02:54] <pisnaz> what*
[02:54] <silentstri> it just blinks
[02:54] <silentstri> and goes back to the input mode
[02:54] <silentstri> silentstri16@silentstri16
[02:54] <silentstri> :~$ and w/e
[02:54] <pisnaz> silent just to clear up my fuzzy mind this is the same system you are currently on right?
[02:55] <silentstri> im on dapper
[02:55] <silentstri> tryin to get to hardy
[02:55] <pisnaz> but same pc?
[02:55] <silentstri> as when?
[02:55] <pisnaz> as you are working on right now
[02:55] <silentstri> like an hour earlier?
[02:55] <silentstri> yes
[02:55] <pisnaz> kk
[02:55] <silentstri> im hardwired to my modem right now
[02:55] <pisnaz> for some reason I thought the pc was a different system
[02:56] <pisnaz> k answers all my questions :P
[02:56] <silentstri> anywai
[02:56] <mefisto__> silentstri: do you have "software sources" in kmenu > system ?
[02:56] <silentstri> no
[02:57] <silentstri> why is this happening to me?!
[02:57] <mefisto__> silentstri: kdesu software-properties-kde
[02:57] <silentstri> probably cause I was offline when I did the install
[02:57] <BentFranklin> I want to use my NAS to hold a full system backup of my Kubuntu system.  I guess I could use tar or rsync.  But in recovery mode on a new hard disk, how woudl I go about bringing those files back without the Samba packages?  Or, if I did enough of an install from disk and apt-get to install Samba, when I do a restore from the NAS, how would I make sure my restored system doesn't have any cruft left over from the disk in
[02:57] <DaSkreech> !backup
[02:58] <BentFranklin> Thanks Sckreech, I've seen some of those already, I'll check out the rest.
[02:58] <silentstri> http://pastebin.com/d73ed72ca
[02:59] <mefisto__> silentstri: kdesu software-properties-gtk  ?
[02:59] <silentstri> with ? mark?
[02:59] <mefisto__> no
[03:00] <silentstri> same thing
[03:00] <pisnaz> bent partimage is a nice system I have used in the past
[03:00] <silentstri> but with GTK instead of KDE
[03:00] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: Did that exist on dapper?
[03:00] <silentstri> kdesu?
[03:01] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: not sure. I never used dapper
[03:01] <DaSkreech> I don't think it did
[03:01] <DaSkreech> we used sourceomatic then
[03:01] <DaSkreech> Which is dead now of course
[03:01] <DaSkreech>  what are you trying to acheive
[03:02] <silentstri> oh boy.... I gotta go
[03:02] <silentstri> srry all
[03:02] <silentstri> will redo tomorrow
[03:02] <Daemonbuntu> my thanks to whoever made it so GRUB in 9.04 can boot off of XFS
[03:02] <silentstri> *yawns*
[03:02] <Zombine> So Konqueror used to have this search for file managment where you could type what you were looking for and it would only show the files you wanted to see... what happened to that?
[03:02] <silentstri> ciao
[03:02] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: he enabled dapper-updates but update-manager-core can't be found. going from this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[03:02] <Daemonbuntu> is Dapper even supported?
[03:02] <DaSkreech> Well he's gone
[03:03] <DaSkreech> Daemonbuntu: yes for 4 more months I think
[03:03] <silentstri> ya srry guys
[03:03] <silentstri> ciao
[03:04] <mefisto__> ok
[03:04] <Daemonbuntu> Quassel is pretty bad, I think I'll get Konversation back when this finishes installing
[03:04] <Zombine> in KDE4, it looks like they got rid of konqueror's progressive search thing completely... Can anyone like... verify this?
[03:04] <Zombine> never mind I found it
[03:06] <Daemonbuntu> hmmm, looks like they didn't fix GRUB, they just removed the warning not to put /boot on XFS
[03:07] <Daemonbuntu> Mandriva can boot off XFS, so I know it is possible to make GRUB not stupid
[03:08] <Daemonbuntu> meh screw it, Ext4 it is
[03:08] <DaSkreech> Daemonbuntu: What's wrong with Quassel?
[03:08] <pisnaz> lol Daemon
[03:08] <Daemonbuntu> Quassel is like the Tiger Tank of IRC clients
[03:09] <DaSkreech> i've never driven a tiger tank
[03:09] <DaSkreech> what's the properties?
[03:09] <DaSkreech> other than being able to hide in tall grass
[03:09] <Daemonbuntu> they were German tank from WW2 that had a huge anti aircraft gun mounted on them that their engine couldn't quite handle the load of
[03:09] <Daemonbuntu> B-)
[03:09] <Palermo_> guys is lvm better then raid?
[03:09] <Daemonbuntu> I think the analogy to Quassel is appropriate
[03:10] <pisnaz> lol
[03:10] <Daemonbuntu> I know the main guy behind XFS, he said it's possible to make GRUB boot it but most distributions don't bother to
[03:11] <Daemonbuntu> but he's also done a lot of work on Ext4 too
[03:12] <Daemonbuntu> very helpful fellow
[03:12] <Daemonbuntu> but Ubuntu's installer telling you no to /boot on XFS has been a pet peeve of mine for years now
[03:13] <Daemonbuntu> I wonder what they'd do if I filed a bug on it
[03:14]  * Daemonbuntu proceeds to
[03:15] <pisnaz> *get spoon* *find pot* *stir*
[03:19] <linuxlover> hello room
[03:20] <begleysm> hello, im trying to do a net install and H:/install/netboot/pxelinux.0 is 0kb which seems wrong... any ideas?
[03:21] <Daemonbuntu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/334157
[03:21] <Daemonbuntu> heh
[03:22] <linuxlover> i have installed kubuntu 8.10 and now it is being updated online. Adept shows that it still need 1hr 30mins. to complete the update procedure. I cannot stay more than 1 hour as I have an urgent call from my office and I have to leave home. So, I need to turn off the computer before I leave home. Will there be a great problem if I turn on the adpet after returning from office? I don't see any pause option for downloading the updates, is it really
[03:22] <linuxlover> there?
[03:22] <DaSkreech> !hi | linuxlover
[03:23] <pisnaz> err I have not looked at pxe setup of kubunut yet but yeah 0kb does seem off
[03:23] <DaSkreech> linuxlover: It will pick up exactly where it left off assuming none of the packages have changed on the server
[03:23] <mefisto__> where did Zombine find the file filter searchbar in konqueror? I can't find it
[03:24] <linuxlover> hello <DaSkreech>, i need to stop the update, can i do that?
[03:24] <DaSkreech> linuxlover: If you like
[03:25] <JontheEchidna> there should be a cancel button
[03:25] <pisnaz> lol mephisto looking atm
[03:26] <linuxlover> there is a cancel button. So, I can cancel it safely and turn on later when I like and it will not affect my computer... am I right?
[03:27] <pisnaz> ctrl+f :P
[03:27] <pisnaz> that was not for you Linuxlover
[03:27] <DaSkreech> linuxlover: Yes
[03:28] <DaSkreech> It downloads all the files to a directory then when done checks them and installs
[03:28] <DaSkreech> When you restart anything already downloaded it will skip
[03:28] <DaSkreech>  and you will not have affected anythign since none of them have installed yet
[03:29] <linuxlover> DaSkreech: Thank you for this info. OK, my problem is now solved. My best regards Sir.
[03:31] <DaSkreech> \o/
[03:31] <DaSkreech> I love how with Linux the right way to help someone is to educate them :)
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Not reboot
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Oh that didn't fix it?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Format and reinstall
[03:32] <pisnaz> what is this reboot you speak of ? :P
[03:32] <DaSkreech> pisnaz: It's what happens when you install a new kernel or do MAJOR change to all system components
[03:32] <DaSkreech> Or when Word doesn't start with the right toolbars
[03:33] <pisnaz> I nearly tossed a win 2k3 server out the window once after being told I had to reboot and then having to tell the system why I was rebooting it...after a while my message got more and more vulgar lol
[03:33] <pisnaz> ohhhh that lol
[03:33] <pisnaz> rofl re word
[03:36] <pisnaz> oh funny odd thing happened to me with intrepid on my desktop...the cpu is throttled but can not be sure it is a bug or just a quirk due to me using a old throw away compaq system
[03:39] <DaSkreech> pisnaz: can't it be both?
[03:40] <pisnaz> could be but not sure it would replicate on another system...compaq's are evil and ths system is not exactally 00% proper shall we say
[03:40] <pisnaz> 100%
[03:43] <Anarch> On two kubuntus, `xmodmap -pp` shows buttons 2 & 3 reversed; but on one kubuntu they're /really/ reversed & on the other they're not.  Settings|Mouse seems irrelevant.  How is reversing buttons 2 & 3 done?
[03:43] <natschil> piznaz try adding -noapic as a kernel argument, there is a bug in the bios of some compaqs that puts the maximum cpu temp ridiculously low, which makes acpi unhappy...
[03:43] <pisnaz> yeah that is what I am going to do but just keep forgetting lol so I just adjust it after I boot
[03:43] <pisnaz> :P
[03:44] <pisnaz> I curse compaq al the time but seems all my servers and donated systems end up being em lol
[03:44] <BentFranklin> After an upgrade, I constantly get the "Newly updated software needs your system to be rebooted before it can be used."  Repeated reboots don't make that go away.  How can I flush that and/or find out which package is failing?
[03:45] <mikorn2> I have installed the latest updates on Kubuntu 8.10, and now when I put my machine to sleep and wake it up, it doesn't lock the machine a require a password to access the system. I certainly didn't change any settings, so what happened to my security?!? Any idea how can I make sure that waking up locks the system and requires a password?
[03:46] <pisnaz> think it is under system settings and power options mikorn
[03:47] <pisnaz> the power settings are in teh advanced tab btw mikorn
[03:47] <pisnaz> the*
[03:50] <BentFranklin> I have stopped upgrading because I can't afford to have upgrades break things on the machine at work that serves the corporate wiki.  I would get crucified.  On the other hand, it's nice that people have taken to the wiki so well.
[03:50] <pisnaz> Bent people took to it ?  I have been tossing the same idea around at my work
[03:51] <BentFranklin> Yep adn they aren't techies at all.
[03:51] <pisnaz> cool
[03:51] <pisnaz> use media wiki or?
[03:51] <BentFranklin> I use Mediawiki
[03:52] <pisnaz> yeah I was looking at that same one.
[03:52] <BentFranklin> So far, "it just works"
[03:52] <pisnaz> and possibly forums...we are a conglomeration of techs with info sitting in our skulls but not shared well figure this may help put it all in one spot
[03:52] <BentFranklin> which is nice because sysadmin is my after hours duty, not my day job\
[03:53] <BentFranklin> yes i want a forum too real soon
[03:54] <p_quarles> mikorn2: in System Settings >> Advanced >> Power Management, there is a checkbox for "Lock screen on resume" - make sure that's on
[03:54] <BentFranklin> any ideas which forum to use?  should use php/mysql since i already have that for mediawiki
[03:54] <pisnaz> Glad I am not the only one with these ideas lol.  Also glad to hear it is working for now
[03:54] <pisnaz> not offhand have not delved to hard into the forum research yet
[03:54] <pisnaz> like you doing this stuff on my offtime lol
[03:54] <mikorn2> I will check, but why would it/how would it have been disabled when doing a routine update? System updates shouldn't muck with my settings!
[03:55] <BentFranklin> tats why i can only adopt mature technologies, cant afford bleeding edge
[03:55] <BentFranklin> Upgrades scare me.  They frequently break this or that, and on my home Kubuntu, apt is completely hosed
[03:56] <pisnaz> heh I upgraded to kde 4.2 and actually solved a good number of my quirks oddly though it is still growing I find
[03:58] <BentFranklin> After one upgrade, emacs would not run in GUI,  Some upgrade actually removed rgb.txt from X windows.  Woudl never have fixed that without help from the people in #emacs.
[03:58] <pisnaz> oh wow
[03:58] <p_quarles> mikorn2: system updates do change settings; that's a pretty well-known fact
[03:59] <p_quarles> I don't see why that should have changed, specifically, but I don't know the code, either
[03:59] <pisnaz> yeah think that is why if/when my wiki idea gets off the ground looking at a deb stable
[04:04] <pisnaz> dagnabit sitting on my media system and just noticed no media playing ...you'd think I would use it for it's main purpose eh :P
[04:07] <mikorn2> Yeah, 4.2 is good. Or was good, been getting some odd quirks after the recent update. Like system starts and then automatically falls asleep. System starts, then hangs when loading the KDesktop. Increased delays where I can't switch between any running app open. - sigh -
[04:09] <pisnaz> really?  could you humor me for a sec?
[04:11] <pisnaz> I had a similar issue thought it may just be my system but... run in terminal cat /proc/cpuinfo and look at model name and then cpu Mhz
[04:19] <dwidmann> Hmm, I seem to be having a really weird issue with my mouse cursor. It's like ... doubled over or something, and restarting X doesn't fix.
[04:19] <socceroos_> pisnaz, mikorn2: I'm having the same issues.
[04:21] <mefisto__> dwidmann: doubled over? the way the pointer/cursor looks?
[04:21] <dwidmann> mefisto__: yes
[04:21] <dwidmann> let me see if I can get a screenshot of it
[04:21] <pisnaz> can you check output from cat /proc/cpuinfo socceroos?  a long shot but I found out I was running my cpu at 1/2 it's speed and could swear it happened after the system had been running fins for a while
[04:22] <pisnaz> as I said my of just been my system but curious :P
[04:24] <socceroos_>  i have a  Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
[04:24] <dwidmann> I managed to get a screenshot of it including cursor with GIMP but it looked normal in it ...
[04:24] <socceroos_> each core is running at: cpu MHz         : 1600.000
[04:24] <pisnaz> hah
[04:24] <pisnaz> same issue I had
[04:24] <dwidmann> socceroos_: probably power management
[04:24] <pisnaz> desktop?
[04:25] <socceroos_> ........power management? I'm on a desktop
[04:25] <pisnaz> exactally what I had
[04:25] <pisnaz> dang...it was a bug lol
[04:25] <dwidmann> socceroos_: doesn't matter, powernowd is probably still running, throttling the cpu while not in use.
[04:25] <pisnaz> power management is not suppose to work on a desktop it only kicks in when it senses a battery
[04:25] <dwidmann> I know mine is throttled to 2.0GHz while not in use
[04:25] <pisnaz> problem is it will not unthrottle
[04:26] <dwidmann> powernowd works on its own
[04:26] <pisnaz> or would not for me
[04:26] <socceroos_> nope, powernowd is not running
[04:26] <pisnaz> I was running full screen media and atill running 1/2 speed
[04:26] <pisnaz> let me recall the stepsI did to sort of workaround it socceroos
[04:27] <elizabeth> good nite guys i am looking for help since i havent been able to get my wireless card recognized by kubuntu intrepid i have a notebook compaq presario series v3000 model v3417la and i downloaded this for 32 bit: http://broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php once i did i am following the readme file: http://pastebin.com/m5ec26a3d i already untar the tar program since i got 3 folders on my desktpo just like the guide says:
[04:27] <elizabeth> hybrid_wl; lib; src and also a sheet that says Makefile the thing is that i am stok at line numer 4 can somebody help me pls???????????????? iam so new on this and for me is been very hard to complete all the steps pls help!!!!
[04:27] <dwidmann> mefisto__: I think I'll take shot of it with a camera, seems to be the only way.
[04:28] <mefisto__> dwidmann: have you tried a different mouse cursor?
[04:28] <mefisto__> dwidmann: you get 2 cursors, is that it?
[04:29] <dwidmann> tried switching cursor sets (all of them I have installed), and it affects all, additionally, same problem is present in kdm
[04:33] <pisnaz> ok found/remembered it
[04:35] <dwidmann> might have finally got a shot that didn't suck .. up close shots of lcds are hard
[04:35] <pisnaz> terminal:sudo apt-get cpufrequtils
[04:36] <pisnaz> terminal: modprobe speedstep_centrino
[04:38] <pisnaz> terminal: modprobe cpufreq_performance       this failed for me but modprobe cpufreq_ondemand set my core to proper settungs
[04:41] <dwidmann> mefisto__: http://www.xnowherex.com/images/screwy_cursor.jpg
[04:42] <mefisto__> dwidmann: I see. and it's just the mouse cursor that does that?
[04:43] <dwidmann> mefisto__: yeah
[04:44] <dwidmann> mefisto__: just started this the other day after some upgrades
[04:45] <mefisto__> dwidmann: have you done anything else to try to find the cause? maybe see if X running in vesa?
[04:46] <dwidmann> mefisto__: not really, haven't had time to deal with it til now
[04:46] <pisnaz> now modify /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils            lines 43, 44, 45 ( mine was set to ondemand already and 0 and 0)
[04:46] <dwidmann> mefisto__: I'm thinking on the same page right now actually, grabbing the latest version of ati catalyst and seeing if that makes a difference
[04:49] <pisnaz> and terminal: echo "driver_module_name" >> /etc/modules   and terminal : echo "policy_module_name" >> /etc/modules
[04:49] <pisnaz> dwid I peeked at the pic those green vertical bars visable on the main screen or just a result of the capture?
[04:52] <ibuffy> will someone please help me fix my dependency issues?
[04:53] <pisnaz> in terminal run sudo apt-get check
[04:54] <ibuffy> pisnaz: http://dpaste.com/1268/
[04:55] <pisnaz> kk now apt-get -f install
[04:55] <ibuffy> it's not going to be that easy
[04:56] <pisnaz> uhoh lol
[04:56] <pisnaz> does not work ?
[04:56] <ibuffy> i knew it wouldn't
[04:56] <dwidmann> maybe things will work after you dpkg --remove the problem packages
[04:56] <pisnaz> as dwid said ..
[04:57] <mefisto__> ibuffy: if you do sudo apt-get upgrade does it say anything is "kept back" ?
[04:58] <pisnaz> or could try just doing a sudo apt-get install kde-icons-oxygen which seems to be the hangup
[04:58] <pisnaz> err
[04:59] <pisnaz> that peer guy is always resetting connections :P
[05:00] <dwidmann> pisnaz: he does it because he loves you
[05:00] <pisnaz> lol
[05:01] <ibuffy> http://dpaste.com/1269/
[05:01] <ibuffy> sorry, i encountered another problem i have
[05:02] <ibuffy> ever once in awhile applications become unresponsive to my keyboard
[05:02] <pisnaz> ok you should see how this thermal paste was applied to this systems cpu rofl looks like they used 1/2 a tube and ran their finger down through it and mashed together....
[05:02] <dwidmann> brb
[05:02] <ibuffy> will do what dwidmann suggested
[05:02] <mefisto__> koffice-data-kde4 is the problem
[05:03] <mefisto__> ibuffy: assuming this is kde 4.2, right?
[05:03] <pisnaz> hrrmm think i had this issue
[05:03] <ibuffy> mefisto__: yes
[05:03] <pisnaz> can not overwrite cause they are in use
[05:03] <ibuffy> oh
[05:03] <ibuffy> so...
[05:03] <ibuffy> restart X and use a tty screen?
[05:03] <pisnaz> may be another way but this worked for me
[05:03] <mefisto__> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 mentions that package
[05:04] <pisnaz> exactally
[05:04] <mefisto__> ibuffy: do you use koffice?
[05:04] <pisnaz> or
[05:04] <ibuffy> mefisto__: yeah, i downloaded it for krita
[05:04] <ibuffy> so try following the instructions on http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[05:05] <pisnaz> ctrl+alt+f1  login     sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop     then run the apt-get -f install    then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[05:05] <ibuffy> pisnaz: after restarting X and not logging into kde?
[05:05] <mefisto__> ok you could try what I did earlier today: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb
[05:05] <mefisto__> sorry not that
[05:05] <mefisto__> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb
[05:06] <pisnaz> oh that works mephisto?
[05:06] <pisnaz> lol
[05:06] <ibuffy> we're about to find out
[05:06] <pisnaz> haha
[05:06] <ibuffy> hmm
[05:06] <ibuffy> it may have worked...
[05:06] <ibuffy> i'm going to attempt to apt-get install a package
[05:06] <pisnaz> mefisto dang been spelling that wrong all night eh?
[05:06] <ibuffy> it worked o.O
[05:06] <mefisto__> pisnaz: yes it worked and haven't found any negative consequences yet. just overwrites a few icon files
[05:07] <pisnaz> nice
[05:07] <ibuffy> very nice
[05:07] <ibuffy> thank you much mefisto__
[05:07] <mefisto__> np
[05:08] <pisnaz> *makes a note, and promptly misplaces it* lol
[05:09] <pisnaz> hrrm quick q is bluetooth running around 2.5Ghz?
[05:09] <mefisto__> dpkg --force-help   to see all the "force" options
[05:11] <pisnaz> nm got it
[05:11] <ibuffy> will do
[05:15] <pisnaz> hrrmm either my dinono mini is dying or something is draining it like crazy thinking an abherent signal may be polling on it...
[05:18] <Anarch> On two kubuntus, `xmodmap -pp` shows buttons 2 & 3 reversed; but on one kubuntu they're /really/ reversed & on the other they're not.  Settings|Mouse seems irrelevant.  How is reversing buttons 2 & 3 done?
[05:19] <mefisto__> Anarch: with xmodmap?
[05:19] <Anarch> mefisto__: `xmodmap -pp` indicates the buttons are already swapped; but on one kubuntu this is true, on another it's false.
[05:20] <mefisto__> Anarch: with same type of mouse?
[05:20] <DaddyLonglegs> I'm runnning kubuntu 8.10 on KDE 4.1. I followed the instructions on this page: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 to upgrade to KDE 4.2, but I don't seem to get updates from PPA repository. It keeps saying "FAILED" whenever I try to fetch update list. Can anybody help me please?
[05:21] <mefisto__> Anarch: maybe xorg.conf can do the button swapping too. see if there's anything in there
[05:21] <Anarch> mefisto__: No, one's a Logitech optical (the swapped one), the other's a Logitech ball mouse.
[05:21] <Anarch> mefisto__: Neither xorg.conf has relevant configuration.
[05:23] <mefisto__> Anarch: see what mouse modules are loaded
[05:24] <Anarch> mefisto__: Ah, didn't think of that: but on the swapped kubuntu, `lsmod` has 115 lines, so I'm scrolling thru them.
[05:24] <mefisto__> Anarch: are you trying to understand why? or just trying to fix it?
[05:24] <mefisto__> Anarch: try lsmod | grep -i mouse
[05:24] <Anarch> mefisto__: It WBN to understand why ... my employer foolishly considers me to be good about this stuff.
[05:26] <Anarch> mefisto__: Both boxes have psmouse, nothing else matching /mouse/.
[05:27] <DaddyLonglegs> Hasn't anybody come across the same problem I just described above?
[05:28] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: checked for typos in sources.list ?
[05:28] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Yes. I just copied and pasted the address from the webpage.
[05:29] <pisnaz>  oh wow I was reading a web page or 10, what did I miss?
[05:30] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: any errors about the signing key?
[05:31] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: How can I figure out if there is any?
[05:31] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: I copied the line into konsole, and it just said "OK".
[05:31] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: I mean when you try to do the upgrade, does it say anything about authentication problems?
[05:31] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: No.
[05:32] <pisnaz> odd
[05:34] <pisnaz> you did not copy a space or drop a d etc when you c&p'd from the web page ?
[05:34] <DaddyLonglegs> See guys: http://imagebin.ca/view/iVNy22b.html
[05:35] <DaddyLonglegs> pisnaz: I don't think so. I double check it.
[05:36] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: close adept and try in konsole: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:36] <pisnaz> you mean the failed in black up top on that image?
[05:37] <DaddyLonglegs> Yes.
[05:37] <pisnaz> I get the same no issue to update to 4.2 here on 3 systems
[05:37] <DaddyLonglegs> It gives the same messaege for PPA repositories as well.
[05:37] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[05:38] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: did it say "kept back" anywhere?
[05:38] <DaddyLonglegs> yes
[05:38] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: try    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:38] <DaddyLonglegs> The following packages have been kept back:
[05:38] <DaddyLonglegs>   kdebluetooth phonon-backend-xine plasmoid-quickaccess
[05:39] <DaddyLonglegs> Again: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[05:39] <pisnaz> can you screen your sources ?
[05:39] <DaddyLonglegs> Sure.
[05:40] <mefisto__> any errors or other messages after the dist-upgrade?
[05:41] <DaddyLonglegs> pisnaz: http://pastebin.com/d497043cd
[05:41] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: No. Nothing.
[05:43] <pisnaz> looks good
[05:43] <Guest16102> hola alguien en español????
[05:43] <Guest16102> algun mexicanito???
[05:44] <pisnaz> on a whin sudo apt-get update ?
[05:44] <miguel__> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:44] <pisnaz> whim*
[05:45] <DaddyLonglegs> what's "on a whim"?
[05:45] <pisnaz> run apt-get update   though this should not be the issue
[05:46] <DaddyLonglegs> I did.
[05:46] <pisnaz> oh are a canuck by chance?
[05:46] <pisnaz> it has relevance
[05:47] <DaddyLonglegs> I'm not canuck, but I live in Canada.
[05:47] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: kdesudo software-properties-kde  and try changing the download location to something else (maybe "main server")
[05:47] <pisnaz> ahh just here leeeeching upall our lovely cold eh :P
[05:47] <pisnaz> nailed it mefisto :P
[05:48] <mefisto__> pisnaz: you're in canada too?
[05:48] <pisnaz> yep
[05:48] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Oh, I guessed it might be the issue. I changed it to main server. Nothing changed though.
[05:48] <pisnaz> though atm i'd consider a move to tropical climes
[05:49] <DaddyLonglegs> pisnaz: My English sucks. I can't understand those sophisticated sentences. Sorry.
[05:49] <mefisto__> pisnaz: the 14 y.o. kid who was trying to upgrade from dapper had canada sources too and had problems
[05:49] <pisnaz> yeah I switched em early on slow and as you said issues
[05:49] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: so you tried to update and upgrade again?
[05:50] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Yes. Nothing changed.
[05:50] <pisnaz> sry daddy, it was a joke in a sense
[05:50] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: and dist-upgrade too?
[05:50] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Let me try it.
[05:51] <pisnaz> odd done up 3 systems here and never a problem getting kde 4.2 unless the repository is offline?
[05:52] <mefisto__> kde4.2 is in backports now. could try enabling that instead
[05:52] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: No change.
[05:53] <pisnaz> hrrm would it be out of experimental though?
[05:54] <DaddyLonglegs> pisnaz: You mean the problem is from repository server?
[05:54] <pisnaz> a thought only daddy
[05:55] <DaddyLonglegs> Maybe. I'm gonna change my internet connection to another one and retry.
[05:55] <DaddyLonglegs> Be back.
[05:55] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: you could try enabling backports to get kde4.2 but you might get other upgrades along with it that you may not want
[05:57] <pisnaz> mefisto_: he'd just have to be careful when selecting though could he not?  and disable the repository when done the upgrade?
[05:57] <mefisto__> pisnaz: not sure what you mean by selecting
[05:58] <mefisto__> you mean when it asks to confirm the package installation?
[05:59] <pisnaz> yes thinking adept may be easier just uncheck etc
[06:00] <pisnaz> sorry mind is getting numb lol concurrent reinstall of a cpu and late night is doing me in :P
[06:01] <mefisto__> pisnaz: well you could do that if you knew which packages are which. do you remember how many upgrade with 4.2 ?
[06:02] <pisnaz> rofl yeah which is why I thought it may be easier then trying to go pkg by pkg via apt-get :P
[06:03] <mefisto__> I didn't really pay attention so I don't know if it was 20 or 200 packages :)
[06:03] <pisnaz> Same here I just walked away for a while
[06:04] <pisnaz> oh something just pinged in my head
[06:04] <pisnaz> 1 sec
[06:05] <noren> hi all
[06:05] <pisnaz> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[06:05] <pisnaz> heya noren
[06:06] <noren> pisnaz: do u know how to activate the preview in the dolphin
[06:06] <mefisto__> pisnaz: yes that should work I suppose. good idea
[06:06] <noren> hi mef
[06:06] <pisnaz> I usually feed it a few fish noren :P
[06:06] <Wargasm> lol
[06:07] <mefisto__> noren: hi. preview is in view menu. you can add a button to the toolbar too
[06:07] <noren> pisnaz ??
[06:07] <pisnaz> yep mine was on my tool bar by default
[06:07] <pisnaz> lol it was alame joke noren
[06:08] <noren> its therre but i wanted to get the preview of the avi fies thats not happening
[06:08] <Wargasm> you might not have the codec installed to allow previews
[06:08] <noren> which codecs are needed for the same
[06:08] <pisnaz> as war said :P
[06:09] <Wargasm> depends on the video file
[06:09] <Wargasm> could be any number of codecs
[06:09] <Wargasm> try installing codec packs
[06:09] <noren> Wargasm: but i am able to play the files in the player so tt means i have the codec dont i ??
[06:10] <Wargasm> it would seem that way, but i think the video player has the codec while your system does not
[06:10] <Wargasm> all i know is that installing codecs fixes it
[06:10] <noren> i hav already installed all the codecs i cud think of !!
[06:10] <mefisto__> video previews where?
[06:11] <Wargasm> icons
[06:11] <Wargasm> is it just showing a file type icon or is it a black preview
[06:11] <mefisto__> oh, like the first frame or something?
[06:11] <Wargasm> yeah
[06:11] <noren> mefisto__: the preview files yes icons in the dolphin
[06:11] <Wargasm> if it's black it's because it has previewed a black frame
[06:11] <noren> yes
[06:11] <pisnaz> view/adjust view prefrences/show preview  to always use preview
[06:12] <noren> in mine if i activate the preview the size of the icon becomes large thats it nothing more
[06:12] <Wargasm> you might still be missing out on the codec
[06:13] <noren> how to trace back which codec like eg for AVI files
[06:13] <pisnaz> hrrmm
[06:13] <Wargasm> anyone know how to figure out which codec he needs? i don't know if it even says in file properties
[06:14] <noren> i am using kde4.2
[06:14] <pisnaz> can dolphin preview vid files?  I have codecs galore but can not see previews of the files
[06:15] <Wargasm> maybe it can't. i was speaking out of experience in windows :x
[06:15] <noren> it was not a problem in ubuntu it was there by default
[06:15] <Wargasm> yeah, but dolphin is different
[06:16]  * DaddyLonglegs can't upgrade to KDE 4.2.
[06:16] <Wargasm> DaddyLonglegs: have you added the new repo?
[06:16] <pisnaz> not sure at all war know it does a good # of stand filestypes but..
[06:16] <DaddyLonglegs> Wargasm: Yes.
[06:16] <Wargasm> DaddyLonglegs: what happened when you tried?
[06:17] <Wargasm> pisnaz: yeah i know, i thought it would just be a codec issue, not dolphin's problem
[06:17] <noren> Wargasm: are u able to preview the files
[06:17] <Wargasm> noren: i don't have any video files on this system. i could maybe find something though.
[06:17] <sparr> what program can i use to see activity on my audio input(s)?  I am trying to figure out which channel on which device corresponds to my actual mic jack
[06:18] <noren> the image files like jpg are working fine
[06:18] <pisnaz> noren: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=712548
[06:18] <DaddyLonglegs> Wargasm: I just got a bunch of FAILED messages when adept tried to reach PPA.
[06:18] <DaddyLonglegs> Wargasm: See http://imagebin.ca/view/iVNy22b.html
[06:19] <pisnaz> a tad old but..
[06:19] <Wargasm> DaddyLonglegs: does the repo require a key? I forget, but I think it does. Did you see if the key was added sucessfully?
[06:20] <noren> [11:48] <pisnaz> noren: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=712548 <<< did not say much other than some kdemultimedia package
[06:20] <DaddyLonglegs> Wargasm: Yes. I did. There was no problem with the key.
[06:20] <Wargasm> DaddyLonglegs: what happens when you run "sudo apt-get update" ? same thing?
[06:21] <DaddyLonglegs> Wargasm: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[06:21] <Wargasm> did it contact the repo correctly?
[06:22] <DaddyLonglegs> I guess so. My repos: http://pastebin.com/d497043cd
[06:24] <Wargasm> DaddyLonglegs: i can't see anything wrong with your repos
[06:24] <DaddyLonglegs> Why sudo apt-get update gives me: Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid/main Packages
[06:24] <mefisto__> noren: apparently installing mplayerthumbs enables video thumbnails, but it doesn't work for me
[06:25] <DaddyLonglegs> Wargasm: mefisto__ and pisnaz also said so.
[06:25] <noren> mefisto__: i guess the problem is with kde4 only it wassnt there in kde3.5
[06:25] <Wargasm> are you sure your internet connection isn't preventing it, DaddyLonglegs
[06:25] <Wargasm> any firewalls?
[06:26] <DaddyLonglegs> No idea really. How can I test it?
[06:26] <Wargasm> you could try pinging http://ppa.launchpad.net maybe, i'm not really sure on that
[06:27] <Wargasm> i successfully pinged ppa.launchpad.net
[06:27] <Wargasm> see if you can do the same
[06:27] <DaddyLonglegs> Wargasm: Ping successful.
[06:27] <Wargasm> ok
[06:27] <Wargasm> that's weird then
[06:27] <DaddyLonglegs> All the weird things happen to me :(
[06:27] <Wargasm> this is out of my expertise lol. i don't know what else could go wrong if you can contact the repo server
[06:28]  * DaddyLonglegs is wishing KDE 4.2.
[06:28] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: try changing download server again. go to "Other..." and try some others in canada, or maybe something in U.S.
[06:28] <Wargasm> that might work
[06:28] <Wargasm> worth a shot
[06:29] <DaddyLonglegs> Sure.
[06:31] <DaddyLonglegs> I tried one in US and one in Russia, both failed.
[06:32] <Wargasm> you're on a fresh install right
[06:32] <Wargasm> relatively fresh anyway
[06:32] <DaddyLonglegs> Purely fresh.
[06:32] <Wargasm> wtf lol
[06:32] <Wargasm> i bet it's something really elementary then
[06:32] <DaddyLonglegs> lol
[06:33] <Wargasm> you tried just simply running "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade" right?
[06:33] <DaddyLonglegs> Yes. Nothing happened.
[06:33] <Wargasm> apt-get update doesn't do anything other than refresh your repos
[06:34] <pisnaz> gah fix the thermal paste application by a blind monkey and now no usb this pc is just a ball of fun
[06:34] <DaddyLonglegs> No. Same bunch of hits and Igns.
[06:34] <Wargasm> that's pretty strange, DaddyLonglegs
[06:35] <DaddyLonglegs> :(
[06:35] <pisnaz> did we try for fun sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-?
[06:35]  * DaddyLonglegs is dreaming of KDE 4.2
[06:35] <Wargasm> i guess that's another way of doing it...
[06:35] <Wargasm> maybe
[06:36] <DaddyLonglegs> What should I do for that?
[06:36] <pisnaz> just type that in the terminal
[06:36] <pisnaz> see what happens
[06:36] <DaddyLonglegs> With the ending -?
[06:36] <pisnaz> no ignore that
[06:37] <mefisto__> noren: got video thumbnails working!
[06:37] <Wargasm> should he keep the last - though?
[06:37] <noren> no not yet
[06:37] <pisnaz> what the ...how?
[06:37] <Wargasm> doesn't seem right
[06:37] <noren> still googling around to find a fix
[06:37] <pisnaz> nope that is just my flail typing
[06:37] <mefisto__> noren: no, I've got it working
[06:37] <DaddyLonglegs> Again nothing.
[06:37] <noren> mefisto__: how
[06:37] <Wargasm> slap your computer for me, DaddyLonglegs
[06:37] <Wargasm> :D
[06:37] <mefisto__> noren: you need to install the jaunty version of mplayerthumbs http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mplayerthumbs
[06:38]  * DaddyLonglegs slaps "leno".
[06:38] <pisnaz> rofl war
[06:38] <Wargasm> haha
[06:38] <Wargasm> maybe it will work after a good kick
[06:38] <pisnaz> odd bugger eh I am still curious is the repository is offline or something is up with it atm
[06:39] <Wargasm> at first
[06:39] <Wargasm> i thought the repo server was offline
[06:39] <Wargasm> that's why i had him ping it
[06:39] <noren> so i need to install one more movie player for tht
[06:39] <pisnaz> ohh threaten it with a windows 95 install !!
[06:39] <Wargasm> good idea
[06:39] <pisnaz> ok so it was online then..
[06:40] <Wargasm> yeah
[06:40] <Wargasm> he pingged it successfully
[06:41] <pisnaz> we do a apt-get check and autoremove ?
[06:42] <Wargasm> no
[06:42] <Wargasm> hadnt thought of that
[06:42] <pisnaz> Daddy try that sudo apt-get check
[06:43] <Wargasm> idk a whole lot about repo management, so im not the best person to fix this
[06:43] <pisnaz> sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:43] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: after changing servers, do you still get Ign next to the official servers? or just for the ppa.launchpad.net ones?
[06:43] <DaddyLonglegs> pisnaz: I did.
[06:43] <pisnaz> kk nm then lol
[06:44] <pisnaz> I'm out of ideas sadly it makes no sense should go like snot after you get it set in
[06:44] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: also, after the autoremove, try    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    again
[06:45] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Both for PPA, and officials.
[06:46] <DaddyLonglegs> Oh!
[06:46] <DaddyLonglegs> Good news!
[06:46] <pisnaz> oh if you say it just magically worked...
[06:46] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade works!
[06:46] <mefisto__> so autoremove then dist-upgrade was the key
[06:46] <DaddyLonglegs> Yay!
[06:46] <pisnaz> sweet
[06:46] <mefisto__> now there will be those overwrite errors
[06:47]  * DaddyLonglegs is upgrading to KDE 4.2
[06:47] <mefisto__> :)
[06:47] <pisnaz> lol
[06:47] <pisnaz> it is worth it imho
[06:47] <DaddyLonglegs> Thanks guys!
[06:47] <mefisto__> oh yeah, very much worth it
[06:47] <DaddyLonglegs> I really appreciate your kind help!
[06:47] <pisnaz> np just to make sure slap the pc again lol
[06:48] <pisnaz> not to hard though avoid HD damage lol
[06:48] <mefisto__> hmm, maybe the slap is what did it :) fonzie IT support
[06:48] <pisnaz> way your luck seems you'd crash the drive
[06:48] <DaddyLonglegs> Sure. After upgrade I will.
[06:48] <pisnaz> is the fonzie tech support not the hip bump?
[06:50] <DaddyLonglegs> I just skip some comments which I don't understand (because of my awful English).
[06:50] <DaddyLonglegs> 75% \:D/
[06:52] <pisnaz> on a bright note here the dead system is up and being stresstested for anymore hoverheating issues
[06:53] <DaddyLonglegs> All done!
[06:53] <pisnaz> cool no errors?
[06:53] <noren> mefisto__: i did not see any change after getting the mplayer do i need to restart
[06:53] <DaddyLonglegs> No. Nothing
[06:53] <pisnaz> nice
[06:53] <DaddyLonglegs> Now I have to restart X?
[06:53] <pisnaz> yep
[06:54] <DaddyLonglegs> I tried Alt + E several times, and my system froze with my Caps Lock LED blinking.
[06:54] <DaddyLonglegs> I had to physically power down.
[06:55] <maco> what is alt+e?
[06:55] <DaddyLonglegs> When log out, it restarts X.
[06:56] <maco> oh
[06:56] <maco> ok
[06:56]  * DaddyLonglegs goes for a X restart.
[06:56] <pisnaz> kk folks I am off it is dang late here
[06:57] <pisnaz> have fun
[07:00] <mefisto__> noren: I didn't restart after installing that mplayerthumbs for jaunty. but I already had mplayer installed from intrepid repos
[07:01]  * DaddyLonglegs is still on KDE 4.1 :(
[07:01] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: update upgrade and dist-upgrade again ?
[07:02] <DaddyLonglegs> Sure.
[07:02] <mefisto__> bbl
[07:03] <noren> oh i had installed mplayer i guess ineeded  mplayerthums
[07:04] <DaddyLonglegs> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.
[07:05] <noren> DaddyLonglegs: what happened dady still no update
[07:06] <DaddyLonglegs> noren: It updated a couple of things, but I'm not sure what they were.
[07:06] <DaddyLonglegs> noren: I'm still on KDE 4.1
[07:07] <noren> did it ended with any error mesage
[07:07] <DaddyLonglegs> noren: No. Neat and tidy.
[07:07] <noren> when i updatee it ended with dpkg error and i had to sudo apt-get -f install
[07:07] <DaddyLonglegs> No, I didn't face any errors.
[07:11] <noren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122691/   i have been getting these quite often is any one else also getting the same
[07:23] <lovre> i have an offtopic question, please forgive: why is there is device manager (winXP) an network adapter and ethernet controller? Im asking because i installed network adapter, but it still shows ethernet adapter in Other Devices. I cant find driver for this on official web pages (its a laptop)
[07:31] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Sorry again. Don't you know why it couldn't be updated to 4.2 after all those tries?
[07:33] <Ron__> sorry new to linux (3 days :) ) where can i download kernel with support for atheros wireless in it....it comes up in the package manager when i search for atheros..but no internet connection so i can't download. Marvel Yukon wired doesn't work either.....oh HI ! :
[07:34] <maco> Ron__: using 8.10?
[07:34] <Ron__> maco: Yes I am
[07:34] <maco> actually, just what's the output of "uname -r" in your terminal?
[07:34] <chairman> i911 please
[07:34] <Ron__> i had to book into windows to access the net :(
[07:35] <Ron__> er boot
[07:35] <maco> oh right
[07:35] <maco> have you installed any updates at all since installing ubuntu?
[07:35] <chairman> i'm tryin g to get my cube effect but they won't let me get the desktops
[07:36] <Ron__> maco: no, can't :)
[07:36] <noren> hi all
[07:36] <maco> wait your *wired* internet doesn't work? that's freaky
[07:36] <maco> anyway, are you using 32bit or 64bit?
[07:36] <Ron__> maco: yeah I know..7.10 and 8..something esle worked with wired though
[07:36] <hepatit> s.a
[07:36] <hepatit> höö
[07:37] <hepatit> türk varmı aranızda
[07:37] <Ron__> maco: 32 bit...i have 64bit but was told to grab the 32 bit...maybe thats the problem?
[07:37] <maco> no that wouldnt do it
[07:37] <maco> theyve got basically the same hardware support...except that 64bit wont boot on a 32bit cpu
[07:38] <noren> Ron__: how are u connecting now ?? for the chat then
[07:38] <maco> im looking for the file for you
[07:38] <maco> noren: dual boot
[07:38] <Ron__> yeah vista..
[07:39] <noren> Ron__: was that a fresh install or upgraded from some distro
[07:39] <Ron__> livecd
[07:39] <Ron__> fresh install from livecd
[07:40] <maco> what the....why is there no cd listed on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/release/ ? only dvd is listed
[07:41] <maco> Ron__: ok if you download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-2.6.27/linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.4_amd64.deb and save it to a flash drive then boot ubuntu you should be able to double click on it in the flash drive and install it to make your wifi work
[07:41] <noren> even i installed from the kubuntu 8.10 cd
[07:41] <Ron__> maco: thats all? wow...i thought i'd have to do weird ...ug linux things :)
[07:41] <Ron__> er meant uh not ug...linux is not "ug" in anyway so far :)
[07:41] <maco> well you might have to reboot after installing it...
[07:42] <Ron__> thats not big deal...i think i can do that :) i know this sounds funny...but linux is so cool
[07:42] <maco> but if youve got one of the atheros cards that dont work by default, it should work with the backports modules
[07:42] <allen> is there any way to change the background behind the files like in other distros?
[07:42] <maco> of course its cool :)
[07:43] <Ron__> its an atheros ar5008x
[07:45] <Ron__> cool gonna go check :) thanks all
[07:47] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: hi. I was just catching up on what's happened. so you're still in 4.1 right?
[07:47] <allen> anyway in 8.10 to change the digital clock from military time?
[07:48] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Yes.
[07:48] <DarkriftX> does kde really take 1g?
[07:48] <DarkriftX> installing it on my phone and i have about 1 gig left, and it refuses to install
[07:55] <Wargasmic> i've only installed a few apps and i've used 8.6GB
[07:56] <Wargasmic> out of a 120GB drive, it doesn't matter.
[08:01] <DarkriftX> im installing on a phone with a 2g drive
[08:01] <Wargasmic> you should be able to fit some version of linux on there, but i'm not sure about kubuntu
[08:01] <DarkriftX> had to go with lxde instead
[08:01] <DarkriftX> i have linux, just now installing X
[08:01] <Wargasmic> oh i see
[08:01] <DarkriftX> i dint think kde would run well, just wanted a screenshot lol
[08:01] <Wargasmic> but the full version is nearly 8gb
[08:02] <Wargasmic> lmao, it would be cool
[08:02] <ActionParsnip1> DarkriftX: fluxbox is another option
[08:02] <DarkriftX> i think i tried that before
[08:02] <Wargasmic> fluxbox would probably work better
[08:02] <DarkriftX> i hated icewm
[08:02]  * ActionParsnip1 loves fluxbox
[08:02] <Wargasmic> i prefer kde and gnome much more than any other
[08:03] <Wargasmic> i don't see the appeal in fluxbox other than being "light"
[08:03] <ActionParsnip1> kde is fine, just not kwin
[08:03] <Wargasmic> maybe i just love aesthetics too much
[08:03] <ActionParsnip1> i run kde apps in fluxbox
[08:03] <Wargasmic> yeah im talking about the actual appearance though
[08:03] <ActionParsnip1> i dont care for prettys, gets in the way of what you are doing
[08:04] <Wargasmic> :P I like to have both
[08:04] <Wargasmic> good function and looks
[08:04] <wrinkliez> hey guys, what brand of laptops do you think is best for linux?
[08:04] <Wargasmic> wrinkliez: generally speaking, something popular. drivers are very important.
[08:05] <Wargasmic> pick something that has good support
[08:05] <Wargasmic> as in, good drivers being developed for the hardware
[08:05] <wrinkliez> k
[08:05] <ActionParsnip1> Wargasmic: depends how good you are with it ;) http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/images/shots/exoduz_fluxbox.jpg
[08:06] <Wargasmic> ActionParsnip1: ,very true, it's mostly up to preference. but at least linux offers so much in the way of preference.
[08:06] <ActionParsnip1> wrinkliez: lenovo rank high, and ibm love linux.
[08:06] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | wrinkliez
[08:06] <Wargasmic> lenovo/ibm are good.
[08:07] <ActionParsnip1> Wargasmic: indeed, i just like bog standard gui so everything does what i say when i say it,not do a dance along the way
[08:07] <Wargasmic> i'm on an old gateway and it has good support, everything works on it. but that's only because it's old i think
[08:07] <ActionParsnip1> Wargasmic: more than likely :)
[08:07] <wrinkliez> lenovos are so ugly though haha
[08:07] <Wargasmic> lol, i can see the appeal, ActionParsnip1, maybe i'll have to give fluxbox a try.
[08:08] <Wargasmic> wrinkliez: don't worry, plenty of brands are well supported. you really have a lot of choices.
[08:08] <ActionParsnip1> wrinkliez: dell can be good, check the exact hardware in each model though, buy smart rather than whats cheap and you save hassle
[08:08] <Wargasmic> i was going to mention dell, they are very popular
[08:08] <wrinkliez> i seee
[08:08] <ActionParsnip1> wrinkliez: if its got a broadcom wireless its good to avoid :)
[08:09] <wrinkliez> lol ok
[08:09] <DarkriftX> how would i install kde on debian without all the un-needed stuff (like open office and other large stuff)?
[08:09] <wrinkliez> ill probably get a lenovo
[08:09] <DarkriftX> i tried apt-get install kde and it was over a gig
[08:09] <wrinkliez> just sacrifice some prettyness
[08:09] <Wargasmic> i'm on a broadcom wireless driver right now. it was a pain in the ass a year or two ago
[08:09] <DarkriftX> i just want kde itself
[08:09] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: We have an official repository in our department. Tomorrow I'll try it from our department local network to see if I can get it updated. Hope it works there. Once again, I appreciate your kind help. See you :-)
[08:09] <Wargasmic> wrinkliez: just check that hardware list, if your hardware is listed there you'll have a great experience.
[08:09] <ActionParsnip1> DarkriftX: sudo apt-get install kdebase
[08:10] <DarkriftX> ahh, nice
[08:10] <chairman> nevr mind i got it thanks
[08:13] <Wargasmic> hey ActionParsnip1, i'm installing fluxbox now :P i think i'll see how it runs. maybe the performance gain will persuade me to use it
[08:13] <Wargasmic> brb, gonna give it a go
[08:15] <Wargasm> back :D
[08:25] <xlevel1> hi, I can't seem to get flash player to work... i installed flashplugin-nonfree and it installs but firefox doesn't seem to recognize its existance
[08:25] <noren> !fluxbox
[08:26] <xlevel1> !fglrx
[08:30] <xlevel1> hi, I'm having a lot of trouble with fglrx. Can someone help me?
[08:37] <jussi01> !ask | xlevel1
[08:38] <xlevel1> jussi01: well thats the thing
[08:38] <xlevel1> I don't really know whats wrong
[08:39] <xlevel1> I just don't have the accelerated rendering I want and restricted drivers manager seems to awesomely fail
[08:39] <jussi01> xlevel1: elaborate a little, tell what you did, wht happens etc
[08:39] <jussi01> what hardware you have
[08:39] <xlevel1> well, restricted drivers manager hangs when I click enable
[08:39] <jussi01> How long for?
[08:39] <xlevel1> Mobility Radeon X1400
[08:39] <xlevel1> forever I assume.  I don't really let it run for long... about 2 or 3 minutes
[08:40] <jussi01> ok
[08:41] <jussi01> the thing Ive noticed is that the restricted dreivers manager sometimes takes a bit to connect and download the software.
[08:41] <jussi01> seems to be doing nothing, but actually is. I assume the PC is net connected?
[08:42] <jussi01> xlevel1: just to confirm, you dont have any other programs running?
[08:43] <xlevel1> okay, let me try it and give it more time
[08:43] <jussi01> xlevel1: ok. let us know how you go. ;)
[08:45] <xlevel1> man, the way it works if feels like its not doing anything at all
[08:46] <jussi01> xlevel1: yeah, It may still be broken, but I need to make sure ;)
[08:47] <xlevel1> okay, well it doesn't seem to be doing anything
[08:47] <xlevel1> it would be much more reassuring if I could do what jockey is supposed to be doing but from the command line
[08:48] <xlevel1> still doing nothing
[08:48] <xlevel1> the thing is, I'm pretty sure I already have fglrx, but its not working correctly
[08:48] <jussi01> xlevel1: yeah, you can do it, I just dont know how, not having a fglrx card. However maybe someone who knows will come along.
[08:48] <jussi01> !fglrx | xlevel1
[08:48] <jussi01> xlevel1: have a look there, maybe some help
[08:49] <xlevel1> I looked there. It said once I get jockey to enable fglrx, which like I said I think I've already done
[08:50] <xlevel1> then to run a couple of obscure volitle modules commands-
[08:50] <xlevel1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko
[08:50] <xlevel1> thats two seperate lines
[08:50] <xlevel1> the second line fails on my system
[08:50] <xlevel1> its says it can't find the file
[08:51] <maco> maybe you need to reboot in between?
[08:51] <maco> since its looking for the one for the currently running kernel
[08:53] <xlevel1> maco: possibly but the instructions don't say so
[08:54] <xlevel1> jussi01: okay, jockey is still broken
[08:54] <xlevel1> I'm going to try rebooting
[08:58] <timjj> I installed Skype 2.0 on Kubuntu 8.04.2, running KDE v3.5.10 . But the 'Sign Up' button on the 'Create a new Skype account' screen is disabled...any way to fix this ?
[08:59] <xlevel1_> okay, its not working
[09:00] <timjj> xlevel1_: u talking about Skype ?
[09:01] <xlevel1_> nah
[09:01] <xlevel1_> fglrx
[09:01] <timjj> k
[09:01] <xlevel1_> anybody here know fglrx?
[09:13] <Dr_willis> theres lots of info on fglrx on the wikis and forums. :)
[09:13] <Dr_willis> I no longer have a fglrx based machine.
[09:16] <maco> Dr_willis: he's wondering if ati's drivers support a specific model because the listing is ambiguous
[09:16] <maco> he's going to call them and ask explicitly
[09:16] <Dr_willis> Call? heh. yea.. good luck with that.
[09:17] <Dr_willis> Google would proberly be faster.  Or the detailed docs on the ati web site about the fglrx drivers
[09:21] <ka> Hi.
[09:22] <ka> Is there a way to make nm-applet run as standard instead of knetworkmanager?
[09:23] <maco> take knm out of your autostart and add nm-applet to the autostart
[09:23] <maco> the plasmoid-network-manager (if youre using kde 4.2) is nice by the way
[09:26] <DarkriftX> installing kde now
[09:26] <ka> I can't see knm in my autostart folder. In fact there is nothing there...
[09:26] <DarkriftX> gotta get that running at least once
[09:27] <ka> Do I have to install plasmoid-network-manager?
[09:28] <maco> ka: in system settings -> advanced -> autostart, knetworkmanager's not listed?
[09:30] <ka> no, ther is no entry for anything except gtk-qt-engine
[09:31] <maco> oh. maybe you ran it once and now you have kde set to save your session?
[09:31] <maco> if that's the case, killing knm and starting nm-applet then logging out and in would swap it, i think
[09:34] <ka> hm. I think I have done that several times. SInce I kill knm every time i log in and start nm-applet instead...
[09:35] <maco> oh
[09:37] <skamster> hey all
[09:38] <skamster> i had a problem with installing kmail.. it had depences which aren't exist.. and i don't know why, i install kubuntu lot of times on other computers
[09:38] <skamster> and on these, kmail is including
[09:38] <maco> aptitude why-not kmail
[09:38] <skamster> but on my personal computer, i play more with sources
[09:38] <skamster> here are the console-infos
[09:38] <skamster> http://rafb.net/p/LwQYpL19.html
[09:38] <skamster> and the sources.list
[09:39] <skamster> maco: i make it with apt-get
[09:39] <skamster> is there a great diffrent?
[09:39] <maco> the "aptitude why-not" command tells you the exact reason something cant be installed
[09:40] <skamster> it's just say, it had no base to REMOVE kmail
[09:40] <skamster> but kmail isn't install
[09:40] <maco> oh >< ok
[09:40] <skamster> or, just the kmail-version from the kde-neon-project
[09:40] <skamster> ;)
[09:41] <maco> um
[09:41] <skamster> but i don't think that make's conflicts
[09:41] <maco> can you do this
[09:41] <maco> LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get install kmail
[09:41] <maco> and then pastebiin the output
[09:41] <maco> that way i can see the error message in english?
[09:42] <skamster> ah, sorry
[09:42] <skamster> first i posted for kubuntu-de, but these peobles are sleeping
[09:42] <skamster> ;)
[09:42] <maco> heh
[09:43] <skamster> http://rafb.net/p/zxhwZt83.html
[09:43] <maco> well my german is limited to um, "guten tag" and er...i can spell München and Vien correctly
[09:43] <skamster> :D
[09:43] <skamster> if you came to siwtzerland, you could also learn "chuchichäschtli"
[09:44] <maco> oh youre getting stuff from a ppa
[09:44] <maco> that looks too hard to pronounce
[09:44] <skamster> most peoble from germany and all other lands think it's difficult, so if you could this, you're a swissgerman-crack :p
[09:44] <maco> hrm, whats it say when you try to install akonadi-kde (using LC_ALL=C)?
[09:46] <skamster> http://rafb.net/p/EkVU0A96.html
[09:46] <skamster> yeah, i think, it's a repo-problem
[09:46] <skamster> but i don't know, which repo make the problem
[09:46] <skamster> :s
[09:48] <skamster> one time, i deactivated all ppa's, make a apt-get update and tried again, but it doesn't work
[09:49] <skamster> and, if akonadi is installed, it's perfect..
[09:49] <skamster> :)
[09:52] <maco> skamster: oh i can tell you how to find out which repo you're getting things from
[09:52] <maco> apt-cache policy <package>
[09:53] <maco> oh i see. it has a dependency with a version = but a newer version is in the repos
[09:53] <Dr_willis> When in doubt . update, upgrade, try again. :)
[09:53] <Dr_willis> So its depending on an older version?
[09:56] <skamster> mmh, so i couldn't deactivate a repo to make it work?
[09:57] <Dr_willis> tit could be a repo issue if you have a lot of them
[09:57] <Dr_willis> when in doubt.. deactivate all the extra ones.. and try again
[10:00] <skamster> now it seems to work..
[10:00] <skamster> :D
[10:00] <skamster> deactivated the backports, but activate kde experimental
[10:02] <skamster> skamster@skamster-laptop:~$ kmail
[10:02] <skamster> kmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN4KPIM8KMeditor16contextMenuEventEP17QContextMenuEvent
[10:02] <skamster> damn
[10:03] <skamster> i make a reboot, cause akonadi is new.. maybe, that's the problem
[10:03] <skamster> cu
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[10:26] <Dr_willis> mo mo mo
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> brap brap kernels in the owse!!
[10:30] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu Kornel Konfiguration
[10:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> karamba!!
[10:30] <Dr_willis> Ie Karamba!
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> apt-built my whole system yesterday..its spiffy
[10:31] <Dr_willis> I noticed earlier today - i could get to #ubuntu  with Mibbit.. but every time i tried to join #kubuntu, it rerouted me to #ubuntu-proxy, then back to #ubuntu :()
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> weird
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> is it ok now?
[10:31] <Dr_willis> Not tried it since ive gotten home
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> id give it a whirl
[10:31] <Dr_willis> was at the Hospital earluier today. their firewall blocks irc.
[10:32] <Dr_willis> so it was mibbit or IRC:CGI or nothing :)
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> oh yeah iremember you trying to connect to that dudes stuff
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> smart hospital dmins eh
[10:32] <Dr_willis> :) couldent ssh out at all..
[10:32] <Dr_willis> dident try anything else. I think they even had hulu.com blocked..
[10:33] <Dr_willis> couldent ping anything either. Got some neat error messages id never seen befor.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> sounds like they locked their system down nice
[10:33] <Dr_willis> Open Wireless network in a Hospital - In the Middle of a College Campus.. yea.. they better lock it down good.
[10:34] <Dr_willis> i couldent even ssh out on port 80 :)
[10:34] <Dr_willis> I will try it again here in a few days when im back there.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> btw, i'd suggest installing dnsmasq on your desktop systems if you dont run a LAN dns server, makes browsing a bit faster
[10:36] <chalcedony> has anyone else had problems with thunderbird looking new and refusing to connect to the mail server?
[10:36] <Dr_willis> Im just visiting the hospital :)  i dont work there.. heh
[10:36] <chalcedony> and where can i go for help?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: no like on your home PCs
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> chalcedony: can you ping the mail server by ip and name
[10:36] <chalcedony> greetings Dr_willis :))
[10:37] <chalcedony> hmmmmm
[10:37] <Dr_willis> Oh. :) heh .  just me and the wife at home. No big deal for her.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> chalcedony: can you telnet to the mil server on port 25
[10:37] <chalcedony> those are good questions.. im on my computer.. problem is on my husband's
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> can your husbands pc web browse
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> caan it ping sites by name and ip
[10:39] <chalcedony> yes his browser is ok
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> ok cool
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> can you ping the mail server defined for his account?
[10:40] <chalcedony> i can ping him from here
[10:40] <chalcedony> i dont know that one
[10:40] <chalcedony> it's got to be .. umm
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> look in thunderbirds account settings, it wil lsay what he is using
[10:40] <chalcedony> aho k
[10:41] <chalcedony> i'll go see
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> don't go by what it SHOULD be. Go by what his settings say
[10:47] <chull> ActionParsnip1, chalcedony here, port 110 but it's refusing the connection according to the error.
[10:48]  * ActionParsnip1 didnt see there error message
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> chalcedony: if you telnet to port 25 you can actually send an email using that (old skool stylee)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> unless your mail server uses port 110
[10:51] <chull> "could not connect to server mail.b5, connection refused
[10:51] <chull> i don't know the ip.. that doesn't dns
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> sure its not mail.b5.com
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> b5.com is 64.236.92.18)
[10:54] <Sylis> Hey everyone?
[10:54] <chull> hi Sylis
[10:54] <Sylis> How are you?
[10:55] <chull> ActionParsnip1,   b5.com mail is handled by 0 nullmail.warnerbros.com.
[10:55] <chull> that isn't us :)
[10:55] <Sylis> I just got kubuntu, my first time away from windows >.<
[10:55] <Sylis> And I need more than just a little help heh
[10:55] <chull> Sylis, how wonderful for you :)
[10:56] <chull> Sylis, it's a great adventure, ask and people will try.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: ask away
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> chull: so surely you need to change the settings to nullmail.warnerbros.com
[10:57] <Sylis> Well, I just installed it on my HP Pavilion Tx2000, I have a walk through to get everything working properlly (it's actually for ubuntu, but I imagine it can't be much different), and I have no idea how to do anything it tells me to.... here's the walkthrough, http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792669
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: are you on hardy or intrepid?
[10:58] <Sylis> um....on what or what? haha
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: also the guide is wrong in places. If you see "sudo gedit" it is WRONG. Use "gksudo gedit" instead
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: ok...in konsole run: lsb_release -c
[10:59] <etfb> How do I connect to a Virtual Private Network at work from my Kubuntu laptop?  Do I use kvpnc (which appears to be hopeless) or is there something that actually (gasp!) works?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> Sy!vpn
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> !vpn
[10:59] <chull> ActionParsnip1, our b5 is NOT warnerbrothers.
[11:00] <etfb> Sylis: Or kdesu kate, since this is Kubuntu...
[11:00] <chull> is there a way to look for ips on the lan?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> that too (ty etfb)
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: k menu -> system -> terminal
[11:01] <etfb> How do we edit ubottu's database?  That !vpn link is worse than useless.  Easier to remove it from ubottu than turn a page full of gibberish into something worthwhile.
[11:01] <Sylis> is there a way to pm people, I'm in java, not IRC unfortunatly, and I see no konsol
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: check pm
[11:02] <chull> Sylis, you're brave :)
[11:03] <chull> i'm going to email our son from my computer and go to bed. he built it, he can fix it. (we hope he has time, and sees mail.)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> and gone
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> if you have a working account on another pc you could compare account settings
[11:04] <etfb> So: has anyone here ever successfully connected to a Windows VPN from a Kubuntu computer?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> etfb: never had to
[11:04] <Dr_willis> Would it make you feel better if we all say No? :)
[11:04] <etfb> ActionParsnip1: Then I envy you for that.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> etfb: theres a guide and there is a cisco vpn client
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> etfb: i use one daily for work but its under windows
[11:05] <etfb> Dr_willis: It would help me to realise that my life is futile...
[11:05] <Dr_willis> ive honestly - neer messed with VPN stuiff
[11:05] <larsaam> Hi! Anyone know if Kubuntu use ~.xinitrc or ~.xsession?
[11:05] <Dr_willis> one of those things ive heard about. but never used.
[11:05] <Dr_willis> larsaam,  it can use either one
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> !vpn
[11:05] <etfb> ActionParsnip1: My work VPN is Microsoft PPTP, not Cisco; I gather it's less intelligent.
[11:05] <Dr_willis> larsaam,  if you want you could link one to the other. :)
[11:06] <larsaam> Dr_willis: thanks!
[11:06] <Dr_willis> larsaam,  and i thinkits .Xsession
[11:06] <Dr_willis> with a UPPER case X
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> etfb: ours is cisco, yeah i'd say MS werent as smart as cisco
[11:06] <etfb> ActionParsnip1: MS aren't as smart as Crisco, some days...
[11:06] <Dr_willis> larsaam,  i think theres a 'Start X session' entry in kdm/gem that uses the .Xsession   startx may just use .xinitrc first.. then the other.. not sure how they all interrelate.
[11:06] <Dr_willis> I have mine linked. :)
[11:07] <etfb> "Dumb as a bottle of vegetable oil" could be the new "dumb as a box of hammers"!
[11:07] <ActionParsnip1> etfb: i just use what i'm given , its a work laptop
[11:08] <etfb> Ah well, I'll keep googling then.  Currently, KVPNC's defaults are just plain wrong (ie the Microsoft PPTP settings don't match the default Windows settings) and the documentation is even worse than usual for a KDE project (which is saying something - KDE doco always sucks).
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> etfb: apt-cache search vpn
[11:12] <PodeCoet> I tried to upgrade to Intrepid + KDE4 and it broke my machine, so I did a complete reinstall of it, and it was DEAD slow or my c2d, so I reverted to 8.04.2
[11:13] <PodeCoet> I want to install the latest kdenlive, but it's written for KDE4... is the re any way to install the KDE4 libs WITHOUT actually installing and using kde4?
[11:13] <etfb> PodeCoet: Took me two weeks to decide to give up on Intrepid and retreat to Hardy, so you're clearly cleverer than me.
[11:14] <PodeCoet> etfb: heh yeah, I've learnt my lesson with these types of issues, no more weeks of googling and hoping someone will help :P
[11:15] <etfb> PodeCoet: I think your best bet is to do a fresh install of Intrepid as a dual-boot, and install it there, if you really need the latest.  I gather developers love KDE4 because it's easier to program.  It's certainly unencumbered by features, reliability or stability, so it must be much simpler than KDE3...
[11:16] <jado> does kate have a history for its konsole ? if yes, in which file can i access it ?
[11:17] <PodeCoet> Damn. I already dual-boot to XP to run Premiere Pro, might just stick to that. Under virtualbox both programs are expectedly slow
[11:18] <PodeCoet> etfb: I found KDE4 was crap, too vista'ish, everything is just too different
[11:18] <etfb> PodeCoet: I got used to the eye candy after a while, and upgrading to 4.2 made it a bit more bearable, but ultimately there were too many things I needed that didn't work, like hibernate/suspend (which is flawless under 3.5).
[11:19] <etfb> PodeCoet: But I think KDE4 will go down in history as the Vista of the Linux world...
[11:19] <etfb> PodeCoet: I expect KDE5 will be excellent!
[11:19] <PodeCoet> yeah definitely
[11:19] <PodeCoet> KDE5 == Windows 7 :P
[11:19] <PodeCoet> that said they're definitely on the right path with it
[11:20] <etfb> PodeCoet: http://xkcd.com/528/
[11:20] <bazhang> !ot
[11:20] <ct529> anyone who knows how to reverse engineer a dll? (everything legal!)
[11:21] <PodeCoet> etfb: hahaha, thats classic!
[11:21] <PodeCoet> ct529: hexedit? :P
[11:21] <etfb> ct529: I'll answer that question if you tell me how to program a game.  (Because both questions are equally vague and unanswerable.)
[11:22] <ct529> etfb: it does not seem so unanswerable to me: you have a .dll and you want to decompile it?
[11:22] <ct529> etfb: possibly in the original language (c /C++)
[11:22] <PodeCoet> not doable in the original language
[11:23] <etfb> ct529: Decompile it?  That's not a solvable problem.  There's no way to do it.
[11:23] <PodeCoet> you'd be lucky to get ASM
[11:23] <etfb> ct529, PodeCoet: and the ASM you get will be unreadable, because there'll be no labels, no macros, no comments...
[11:23] <ct529> PodeCoet: I though decompiler were available for a variaty of languages ....
[11:23] <etfb> ct529: Nope.
[11:24] <maco> eh?
[11:24] <maco> no ive heard that too, that there are decompilers for c
[11:24] <etfb> ct529: The problem is probably NP-complete, ie can be mathematically proven to be insoluble.  Not merely very hard, but how-do-you-unscramble-an-egg insoluble.
[11:25] <bazhang> please take non-support chat to #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:25] <etfb> ct529: Yeah, I was going to mention that.  DLLs are a Windows thing, not Kubuntu.
[11:25] <ct529> etfb: unless you want to port to kubuntu, you mean
[11:26] <etfb> ct529: Yeeeesss... except, that's like: "I have a book written in invisible ink in Russian, and I want to translate it to Dutch, so I'll ask on the #dutch channel for help..."
[11:27] <etfb> ct529: Would WINE help, perhaps?
[11:27] <etfb> !wine
[11:28] <ct529> etfb: nope wine does not help ....
[11:28] <bazhang> ct529, how does this relate to kubuntu support
[11:30] <etfb> ct529: I'm curious enough to ask you more, but I don't want to give poor bazhang a mental hernia.  Unfortunately, I have no idea how to open a private message.  You can message me though if you're more familiar with IRC...
[11:30] <ct529> bazhang: I want to reverse engineer on kubuntu, to port something to kubuntu .... so what I am asking is: is there a reverse engineering tool for .dll files on  kubuntu? would you be so kind to explain how does that not relate to kubuntu?
[11:31] <ikonia> ct529: it's not a "tool"
[11:31] <ikonia> ct529: it's a long term analitical approach
[11:32] <ct529> ikonia: how long is the term .... :D?
[11:33] <ikonia> depends a.) how hard / tricky the project is b.) how good the guy is doing it c.) what tools are at his disposal
[11:33] <ct529> !info r-base
[11:34] <ct529> ikonia: shall we talk about (c)? to answer to (a) not very, the answer to (b) is very poor ....
[11:34] <ikonia> ct529: nothing to talk about
[11:35] <PodeCoet> I'm trying to install ffmpeg on hardy 64bit, but I keep getting the following errors: http://pastebin.com/m4ffdf396
[11:35] <ct529> ikonia: what tools do you know?
[11:36] <ikonia> ct529: the tools depend on the job
[11:36] <ikonia> PodeCoet: what repo are you pulling that from
[11:37] <ct529> ikonia: the job is to reverse engineer a very small dll, written in C++ on Visual Studio, on kubuntu ....
[11:37] <PodeCoet> ikonia: thanks, that fixed it :P
[11:37] <ct529> PodeCoet: did you update before pulling?
[11:37] <PodeCoet> ct529: yeah, had a dodgy repo, forgot to disable
[11:37] <ct529> PodeCoet: :)
[11:38] <gianfree> ciao
[11:38] <PodeCoet> damn repos :P
[11:38] <bazhang> !it
[11:38] <ikonia> ct529: I suggest you grab some notes on reverse engineering, it's not really a common day thing
[11:38] <gianfree> ok
[11:38] <noren> !speedup
[11:39] <ct529> I do not understand why the upgrade process is keeping back 3 packages today
[11:39] <timjj> mic not working in Kubuntu 8.04.2
[11:39] <noren> hi all i am looking some info aboiut speeding up Konqueror
[11:39] <timjj> any way to fix mic issues ?
[11:40] <ct529> timjj: depends on the issue
[11:40] <kar> does anyone uses "Folder View" in KDE4.2 ? if so, do you see a "chess pattern" while first time mouse moves over an icon?
[11:41] <noren> kar?? what do u mean
[11:42] <MaGicKanGaRoo> kar do you mean in dolphin?
[11:42] <kar> no in desktop
[11:42] <kar> in appearence settings
[11:42] <kar> i have chosen at desktop activity "folder view"
[11:43] <kar> in order to view my desktop as kde 3.5
[11:43] <MaGicKanGaRoo> ah right
[11:43] <MaGicKanGaRoo> no i dont
[11:43] <MaGicKanGaRoo> have you tried
[11:43] <kar> have you enabled desktop effects?
[11:43] <noren> kar: i dont have anyprob in that i m using 4.2
[11:43] <MaGicKanGaRoo> the folder view plasma plugin
[11:48] <Sylis> I can't wait to get IRC back >.<
[11:49] <impy> Can I adjust the time for the auto-hide on my menu bars?
[11:50] <prodigel> hi all. I've just upgraded to intrepid and after reboot kde won't start anymore. I usually use gnome, and have little experience with kde's inner workings. More precisely after I fill the username and password, I see the wallpaper, but nothing more
[11:54] <MaGicKanGaRoo> hi kar sorry was on phone
[11:54] <MaGicKanGaRoo> yes i have kde 4.2 and desktop effects and dont have that chess effect
[11:55] <MaGicKanGaRoo> i do have other foybles with my dual screen but havent had a chance to look at it
[11:56] <noren> kar: i do get the chess effect only when i try to redjust my screen ressoution !!
[11:57] <noren> prodigel: he was the upgrade succesfull
[11:58] <kar> noren: do you have your default resolution on you have changed it?
[12:00] <noren> wen i log in its 800x600 but i had to change it to 1024 x 728
[12:00] <kar> MaGicKanGaRoo: maybe it is because i don't have desktop effects enabled so my plasma doesn't use OpenGL, i will check it
[12:00] <kar> mine was 1100xsomething and turned to 1024x728
[12:00] <zipper> In umbrello i cannot export my diagrams to anything but DocBook and XMI. Can this really be true? No way to export to PNG, JPG or any picture format?
[12:03] <tabla> hi ppl
[12:03] <noren> !hi | tabla
[12:03] <Sylis> could someone help me real quick, I just got a fatal error message
[12:03] <Sylis> and I'm new
[12:04] <noren> Sylis: whats tht
[12:05] <kar> no, it happens with opengl enabled also
[12:07] <Sylis> um I just used the command sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-177 nvidia-settings, and when it go tto the point of the ldconfig deferred process now taking place, it came up with the line where I can enter commands and immediatly got an error stating "The application Kmix crashed and caused the signal 6 (sigabrt).
[12:07] <noren> i want a faster konquror
[12:07] <Riddell> zipper: Diagram -> export as picture
[12:09] <Sylis> so uh, are those two things completely unrelated or what?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[12:22] <Sylis> heya, welcome back ActionParsnip1
[12:22] <Sylis> I need your assistance haha
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: wassup bro?
[12:24] <Sylis> I got a fatal error message
[12:25] <Sylis> not sure how fatal, fatal errors are haha
[12:25] <Dr_willis> semi-fatal
[12:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:26] <Dr_willis> semi-fatal vs Non-Lethal ?
[12:26] <Sylis> haha,
[12:26] <Dr_willis> 'Sharp punch in the kidneys Level Error! - Program will  act funny for a few days'
[12:26] <Sylis> and for a little bit it'll pee blood?
[12:27] <Dr_willis> 'Stubbed Toe Level Error! - Program will  keep stubbing the same toe for several days'
[12:27] <Sylis> wouldn't that be a bad karma level error?
[12:28] <Sylis> this guide tells me to unzip this zip file, but it doesn't tell me where I unzip it to
[12:28] <Dr_willis> 'Stepped on a butterfly  Error! - Program will have bad karma.'
[12:28] <Sylis> and also how do you create folders >.<
[12:28] <Dr_willis> mkdir
[12:28] <Dr_willis> bash basics. :)
[12:28] <Sylis> wouldn't that be a total system crash?  Butterfly effects
[12:28] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: are ou on about the cabextract command?
[12:28] <Sylis> effect*
[12:28]  * Dr_willis is unsure of the origiianl problem. or whats going on.
[12:29] <Dr_willis>  :)
[12:29] <Sylis> um no, the guide for wifi, tells me to download a zip file which I've done through the web browser and then tells me to unzip it, but doesn't tell me where to
[12:29] <Sylis> http://mirosol.kapsi.fi/tx2020/tx2000howto.htm
[12:29] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: anywhere you want, i'd suggest in /home/<your username>
[12:29] <Dr_willis> whever you want.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: or desktop
[12:29] <Dr_willis>  /home/MySuperSpiffyDownloadPlace
[12:29] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: his wifi need ndiswrapper
[12:30] <Sylis> I'm used to windows, and I hate clutter >.<
[12:30]  * Dr_willis runs away from Wifi and Ndiswrappers
[12:30] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: its only for now while we get set up, you can delete after
[12:30] <Sylis> ok sounds good
[12:30] <Dr_willis> Sylis,  windows and 'clutter' go hand in hand...
[12:30] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: i know but its all we have to run at
[12:30] <Sylis> also I'll cut and paste my fatal error bit, since noone answered me earlier >.<
[12:30] <ActionParsnip1> not if you cut it down, windows can be quite small. Ive seen Win98 on 8Mb falsh rom
[12:31] <Dr_willis> I got ndiswrappers working on a machine once..
[12:31] <Sylis> um I just used the command sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-177 nvidia-settings, and when it go tto the point of the ldconfig deferred process now taking place, it came up with the line where I can enter commands and immediatly got an error stating "The application Kmix crashed and caused the signal 6 (sigabrt).
[12:31] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip1,  on the next vista machine you see check out   the Windows/winsxs directory...
[12:31] <Dr_willis> Aparently updates and stuff go there.. and it can grow over 30gb in size.. and theres no 'real' way to clean it :)
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: thats for all the compatibility mode stuff
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: dont sweat kmix crashing, its for sound
[12:32] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip1,  yep.. its 3x the size of the rest of the install on the wifes laptop.. and   on this new windows 7 beta install - its growing every day.. go figure.
[12:32] <Sylis> oh
[12:32] <Sylis> crush windows! >.>
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: did you run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: and reboot
[12:32] <Sylis> yes
[12:33] <Sylis> I'm fairly certain I did
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: its entertaining
[12:33] <Sylis> let me start over
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: ok then run: kdesudo nvidia-settings
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: then you can set your video resolution
[12:34] <Sylis> suod apt-get install ndisgtk is first  yea?
[12:35] <Sylis> my first day on kubuntu and I just got avalanched in information
[12:35] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: that will install the tool so you can configure wifi with the files from the zip file you downloaded
[12:36] <Dr_willis> My wireles cards just 'worked' :) dident even need to download a thing. heh.
[12:36] <Sylis> ok I'll skip that
[12:36] <Dr_willis> or corurse nvidia and ati both need slapped a bit more - for being such  pests with their drivers.
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: mine too, good ol atheros :D
[12:37] <Dr_willis> Yep. thats what the netbook has i think.. but it raises a question..
[12:37] <Sylis> when I do the sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177 nvidia-settings it says 0-upgraded 0-newly installed, 0-to remove, and 0-not upgraded
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: thats fine
[12:37] <Sylis> ok
[12:37] <Dr_willis> WHY do some network wireless cards drivers use wlan0 vs ath0 vs.. (what was the others?)
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: not sure, but if you want you can change its name if it gives you nightmares ;)
[12:37] <Sylis> so sudo nvidia-xconfig and reboot
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: yep
[12:38] <Dr_willis> Yep.. i was thinking the Atheros ones used ath0 - but aparanely on archlinux in my netbook its 'wlan0'
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: it will also boot your new kernel if you got one in your updating (likely)
[12:38] <sofysys> hi i am sorry for my bad english i have a probleme with firefox
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> sofysys: wassup?
[12:39] <sofysys> my firefox close all the time
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> sofysys: what have you changed to it?
[12:39] <sofysys> just when i open  more then 4 page
[12:39] <StR|Sangreal> hi... i just have installed dropbox onto my kde platform (but i have ubuntu-desktop installed), it integrates with nautilus and offers me to set up... as i press connect, it says i should setup proxy... where can i do that for gnome/nautilus/dropbox pls?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_willis: the quesion is...how much ass does the new lamb of god album kick
[12:39] <shadowhywind> hay all random issue, knetworkmanager lately, when i select a wireless network, it doesn't even act as it is trying to connect to it
[12:40] <sofysys> ActionParsnip1:  nothing i use 3.0.6
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> shadowhywind: have you tried renaming /etc/network/interfaces and rebooting
[12:40] <Sylis> fucking fantastic, now I just need to use kdesudo nvidia-settings everytime I need to adjust my visual settings?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> sofysys: run firefox from konsole, you will get outputs when it crashes
[12:41] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip1,  none for me.. never heard of them. :)
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: is it rebooted?
[12:41]  * Dr_willis is old and jamms to Kenny G.
[12:41] <Sylis> yes
[12:41] <StR|Sangreal> please guys its totally dead on #ubuntu and i need to upload my files...
[12:42] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip1: renaming the interface file iteself or just the device?
[12:42] <Sylis> I'm going to need some very personal help with the wlan part
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: if it is then yes kdesudo nvidia-settings   you will need to click write settings to make them stick
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> shadowhywind: the file
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> shadowhywind: you will get a stock one when you get back round, if this helps, delete the old. if not, rename back
[12:44] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip1: well this is interesting, I just looked in there, and all i have is the Auto lo lines.. and thats it...
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> StR|Sangreal: ive not used dropbox, did you setup your proxies in the gnome settings place
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> !info dropbox
[12:44] <ubuntu_> hi all
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> shadowhywind: you could populate that file manually but it will superceed anything NM wants to do
[12:45] <Sylis> this guide isn't working for me
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: have you set your video settings ok?
[12:45] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip1: k, I just deleted, had to wait for a few updates to finish, going to reboot and see if it helps
[12:46] <StR|Sangreal> ActionParsnip1 i have set it up in kde settings place
[12:46] <Sylis> yea, they were fine as they were
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> StR|Sangreal: i'd figure itd use the gnome settings. im not sure how that flys in a mixed environment
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: awesome, 1 step down
[12:46] <Sylis> yes
[12:47] <ubuntu_> all jelp me
[12:47] <ubuntu_> all help me
[12:47] <ubuntu_> I ive in spain
[12:47] <ActionParsnip1> !es
[12:47] <ubuntu_> but don-T UNDERSTAND INGLES
[12:47] <ubuntu_> youu help me_
[12:48] <bazhang> ubuntu_, /join #ubuntu-es or #kubuntu-es
[12:48] <ubuntu_> Where install program in kubuntu_
[12:48] <bazhang> ubuntu_, what program
[12:48] <StR|Sangreal> escribes /join #kubuntu-es
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: where are you stuck. I just read http://mirosol.kapsi.fi/tx2020/tx2000howto.htm
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: it pretty much walks you through
[12:48] <StR|Sangreal> o tambien /join #ubuntu-es
[12:49] <Sylis> I know
[12:49] <StR|Sangreal> bienvenida!
[12:49] <Sylis> I'm trying to get my wifi to work
[12:49] <ubuntu_> sangral
[12:49] <ubuntu_> ola
[12:49] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: ok so where are you up to?
[12:49] <ubuntu_> com puedo instalar un programma en kubuntu_
[12:49] <bazhang> ubuntu_, what program
[12:49] <ubuntu_> estoy en clase de informatica y tenemos que instalar alguna aplicacion
[12:49] <Sylis> I unzipped the files to home/username and then I went on to step 3 of the wlan guide using command sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwlf.inf and it says it can't open bcmwl5.inf
[12:50] <Sylis> because there's no such file
[12:50] <bazhang> ubuntu_, and use english or join the espanol channel
[12:50] <Dr_willis> You give the full path to the file Sylis
[12:50] <Dr_willis>  sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/username/whatever/bcmwlf.inf
[12:50] <Dr_willis> perhaps?
[12:50] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip1: interesting part, reboot didn't recreate the file
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: you need to find the file
[12:50] <Dr_willis> if that is the proper file name. :) check that it was in the archive and did extract.. it may be in a subdirectory
[12:51] <ActionParsnip1> shadowhywind: fine, use NM now
[12:51] <Dr_willis> bbl
[12:51] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip1: still nothing
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: you need the .inf and .sys to be in the same folder (expect this) and yuo need to ndiswrapper -i <inf file>
[12:53] <Sylis> ok so both the inf and sys file are in home/username
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> shadowhywind: you could --purge remove the program then reinstall it
[12:53] <noren> Dr_willis: is there a way to speedup konqueror
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: then run: sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/$USER/bcmwl5.inf
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> noren: could apt-build install it with high optomisation
[12:54] <bambix> hi all
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> noren: konqueror has a tonne of functionality so will be bulky
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: any good?
[12:55] <Sylis> now that's far more simple
[12:55] <Sylis> yes
[12:55] <bambix> I just installed thee recent version of kubuntu but when I change my display settings and reboot, display settings are reverted to 800x600
[12:55] <Sylis> as far as I know anyway, I didn't get an error so I imagine it worked haha
[12:55] <bambix> is there a solution?
[12:55] <bambix> it seems a x setting but the xorg.conf is empty
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> bambix: it will be. What video card do you have?
[12:56] <bambix> vmware
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> then you need to use the vesa driver
[12:56] <noren> ActionParsnip1: no i meant i wanted to increasse the sped of my acessing the net
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> bambix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034395
[12:57] <noren> i hear that i have to install a dns server at my end is that true
[12:57] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip1: so any other ideas?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> shadowhywind: could --purge remove the network manager, then reinstal it
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> noren: buy a faster connection, is it fast in real browsers like opera / firefox
[12:58] <bambix> actionparsnip, normally i'd set the driver in xorg.conf, but that one is empty it seems to get it's settings somewhere else? so i'm not sure where to define the use of the vesa driver
[12:59] <bambix> oh thanx didn't notice the url, got it cheking it out now, thnx mate
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> bambix: you set it there, just that other stuff like mouse / kb is handled by hal now
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> bambix: ;)
[12:59] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip1: interesting part, is Knetworkmanager isn't installed, network-manager is.. could that be part of the problem?
[12:59] <shadowhywind> ActionParsnip1: oh, its a dummy package, nevermind
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> shadowhywind: its network-manager-kde now I think
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> shadowhywind: apt-cache search manager kde
[13:00] <noren> ActionParsnip1 yes its fast in firefox
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> noren: check your web settings in konqueror, is knoqueror set to use any proxies for example
[13:01] <shadowhywind> also just to double check it would be apt-get remove network-manager-kde --purge right?
[13:01] <bambix> actionparsnip1, i checked the url, but it's someone with a similar question, only he's using the xorg.conf mine is completely empty so I'm not sure what to use without mucking up this freshly installed system
[13:02] <bambix> al be it vmware so i could clone it as a backup
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> bambix: it will be fairly bare, thats why your display is low
[13:02] <noren> ActionParsnip1: no proxys
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> noren: stuff like that, hunt around in its settings
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> noren: see if theres anything that might slow it
[13:02] <noren> so i guess thers nothing to do with the dsn and chace
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> bambix: you will have a monitor section a video card section and a screen section, yuo need to populate them
[13:03] <bambix> actionparsnip, I see, i used to be able to run an x config that would ask me what settings to use, I'm pretty handy but a linux noob, so a guide or gui would be the bomb
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> bambix: that got thrown out in gutsy and sucked :(
[13:03] <Sylis> ok now I'm at step 4, am I just trying all of those commands to see which work?
[13:03] <bambix> i see
[13:04] <bambix> ok I'll try to populate the xorg.conf and see what happens, thanks for the help mate
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: those take out and put in modules to make hardware work, they are synonymous with drivers
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> when you run: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper it will jump into life, the other make sure there are gonna be no other things in the way
[13:07] <bambix> going for a reboot, i hope to be back soon =))
[13:07] <Sylis> it's telling me ERROR: Module b43 does not exist in /proc/modules same all the way down
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: thats fine, you are just trying to remove something that doesnt exist
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: the guide is just covering all bases
[13:09] <Sylis> oooooh alright gotcha
[13:11] <Sylis> alright last question for the wlan
[13:11] <Sylis> I did the last step and it came back with bash: o: command not found
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> i dont like that command, let me read it
[13:13] <Sylis> I cut and pasted
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> its pointless
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> just use: kdesudo kate /etc/modules
[13:14] <Sylis> alrighty
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> and add the word 'ndiswrapper'  (without the 's at the bottom of the file and press enter on the end of the line
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> thats majorly overly complicated
[13:15] <Sylis> ok is there anything I need to do in the window that opens?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: add the line ndiswrapper to the bottom of that file, press enter on the end of the line, save anad exit kate
[13:17] <Sylis> and if it's already there? o.o I assume I just save and exit yea?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> sure job done
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> now in terminal run: sudo iwlist scan
[13:19] <Sylis> interface doesn't support scanning
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> does it find APs
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> try a reboot
[13:22] <StR|Sangreal> pls what is SHOME and where is shome folder?
[13:22] <StR|Sangreal> !SHOME
[13:23] <StR|Sangreal> i am following this article http://antrix.net/journal/techtalk/dropbox_kde.html to install dropbox
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> StR|Sangreal: it will be /home/<your username>
[13:24] <Sylis> same message again ActionParsnip1
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> StR|Sangreal: it is abbreviated to ~/
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: ok try: ndiswrapper -l
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: does it say driver present hardware present
[13:25] <bambix> hi actionparsnip1 I'm back, it seems to swallow the vesa driver but I can't set it to the correct resolution, I'm guessing I have to add it to the xorg.conf
[13:25] <Sylis> it says....nothing
[13:25] <Sylis> just moves to the next command input line
[13:26] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: back
[13:26] <shadeslayer> in KDE now
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> bambix: yep you set the res in there too, there were resolutions set in the page i gave you, you need to add some lines to your screen section
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: theres a keyboard section in systemsettings have a dig in there
[13:27] <StR|Sangreal> offtopic @ ActionParsnip1: are you the same one as ActionParsnip without 1 ?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> StR|Sangreal: yep, my home system is logged in
[13:27] <StR|Sangreal> aha :D
[13:27] <shadeslayer> :O the keyboard works now
[13:27] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: cool, then its the gnome settings screwing it up
[13:27] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:28] <shadeslayer> ill log out to see
[13:28] <casper_> hI
[13:28] <StR|Sangreal> ActionParsnip1, do you have experience with dropbox?
[13:28] <casper_> HAI
[13:28] <Sylis> ActionPasrnip1: It saying nothing just moves on to the next command input line
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: you could rename the .gnome folders in your home dir and log back into gnome
[13:28] <shadeslayer> to what??
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: then i'd try another guide
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: something different so gnome has to generate new ones
[13:29] <casper_> how wonderfull ubuntu ultmte 2
[13:29] <casper_> i like it
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: if someone says "rename <something>" just give it a different name
[13:29] <shadeslayer> ill just log out too check it once
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> casper_: ultmte2?
[13:29] <shadeslayer> then ill rename
[13:29] <casper_> ultimate
[13:29] <bazhang> casper_, ultimate?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: you will lose all gnome settinsg
[13:29] <bambix> actionparsnip1 do i use the modeline? it says: Modeline "1024x768@75" 85.52 1024 1056 1376 1408 768 782 792 80
[13:29] <bazhang> casper_, not supported here
[13:30] <Sylis> so all that stuff I just did was for nothing I suppose
[13:30] <bambix> but i don't know what those numbers mean nor wich ones to use
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> !ultimate | casper_
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: maybe you need a different broadcom driver, if you are using ubuntu 64 you will need the 64bit driver
[13:30] <Sylis> I sure am using the 64bit
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: then you need 64 bit wifi broadcom drivers
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: and 64bit ndiswrapper
[13:32] <StR|Sangreal> ActionParsnip1 the folder ~/SHOME doesnt exist
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> StR|Sangreal: ~/ is your home folder
[13:32] <StR|Sangreal> omg i am a piece of idiot
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> ~/SHOME == /home/<your username her>/SHOME
[13:33] <StR|Sangreal> have said nothing
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> or /home/$USER/SHOME
[13:33] <Sylis> hardy and what's the other one
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: there have been many
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> !breezy
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> !hoary
[13:33] <Sylis> what's mine I forgot haha
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> sylis yours is intrepi
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> !intrepid
[13:34] <SlimeyPete> !warty
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> !gutsy
[13:34]  * ActionParsnip1 misses his gibbon :(
[13:35] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: yeah its GNOME
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: if you rename all your gnome folders you will lose all gnome settings
[13:35] <shadeslayer> :(
[13:35] <shadeslayer> cant i use config files from KDE??
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> so you could dig around withing the folders to see where the kb is controlled
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: no, kde configs are for kde
[13:36] <shadeslayer> eh so itll be back to defaults??
[13:36] <shadeslayer> gnome that is
[13:36] <Sylis> alright so how do I go about getting a 64 bit driver for broadcom, do I just google it? lol
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> its on of the resons I dont use gnome, gnome-config manager thing sticking its nose in where its not needed
[13:36] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: sure, or you can go to the manufacturers site
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: stuff like sounds / sceensavers / menus maybe / app settings
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: im sure its other stuff too. I just dont use gnome, ask in #ubuntu or #gnome
[13:38] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> i see gnome like clippy in MS office
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: http://www.faculty.english.ttu.edu/barker/4367/images/ClippySuicide.jpg
[13:40] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:40] <Sylis> alright next question how do I figure out which broadcom wlan I have
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> Sylis: lspci | grep -i broadcom
[13:46] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: how about reinstalling the whole of ubuntu desktop
[13:51] <ncfi1013> i have the hardware drivers manager open. there are listed 3 nvidia drivers - 96, 173, 177 - can anybody tell me which one to activate because it is giving me that option
[13:53] <JuJuBee> I have an HP officejet 6110 connected to my server (usb).  How do I use it from my laptop? ipp:// or socket:// ?
[13:57] <Sylis> I'm having a hard time finding the driver >.<
[14:02] <Sylis> anyone on?
[14:02] <shadeslayer> yeah??
[14:03] <Sylis> could you help me a little
[14:03] <shadeslayer> anyone know how to use usplash
[14:03] <shadeslayer> Sylis: sure
[14:03] <shadeslayer> but please be quick
[14:04] <shadeslayer> Sylis: the problem is regarding........
[14:04] <DarkTan> ok this is really getting old. My laptop /still/ won't display anything but 640x480 and it used to have the full range when i first did the install
[14:04] <DarkTan> screwed up after running dual screens with a projector
[14:05] <DarkTan> i have edited the xorg.conf file, only to have it re-written on reboot every time
[14:05] <shadeslayer> DarkTan: tried editing xconfig??
[14:05] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:05]  * DarkTan points up
[14:05] <shadeslayer> used sudo to write to file??
[14:05] <DarkTan> yep
[14:05] <shadeslayer> yeah saw that
[14:05] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:06] <DarkTan> well actually used "kdesudo kate" to edit
[14:06] <shadeslayer> try dropping to recovery mode and edit the file again
[14:06] <shadeslayer> try sudoedit
[14:06] <shadeslayer> !sudoedit
[14:06] <DarkTan> recovery mode?
[14:06]  * shadeslayer points up
[14:06] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:06] <DarkTan> heh
[14:06] <shadeslayer> you HAVE to use sudoedit
[14:07] <shadeslayer> not sudo kate
[14:07] <shadeslayer> as that launches kate in sudo not the file
[14:07] <shadeslayer> also never use sudo to launch apps
[14:08] <MaGicKanGaRoo> anyone know how to check which repository something is installed from?
[14:09] <shadeslayer> !repos
[14:09] <DarkTan> well i used kdesudo, not sudo, and i assume sudoedit has to be run from terminal?
[14:09] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:09] <shadeslayer> DarkTan: sudoedit <pathname>
[14:09] <sinclair> hi everyone
[14:10] <shadeslayer> !hi|sinclair
[14:10] <sinclair> is there a shockwave/flash tutorial/guide available for kubuntu?
[14:10] <shadeslayer> !flash
[14:10] <sinclair> thanks
[14:10] <shadeslayer> np
[14:11] <DarkTan> ok, opened the file, pasted in a completely rewritten file, now how do i save it?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> exit
[14:12] <shadeslayer> DarkTan: opened in nano??
[14:12]  * DarkTan shrugs
[14:12] <shadeslayer> !nano
[14:13] <shadeslayer> well not like kate,it opens in terminal itself
[14:13] <DarkTan> yeah, it opend in the terminal, but i just checked the file, nothing changed
[14:13] <shadeslayer> replace againn
[14:13] <shadeslayer> and then
[14:13] <shadeslayer> Ctrl+X
[14:14] <shadeslayer> then save it in the same path as original file
[14:14] <DarkTan> would it be /etc/x11/xorg.conf or \etc\x11\xorg.conf?
[14:14] <MaGicKanGaRoo> hi shade, not sure that the community documentation covers that
[14:14] <shadeslayer> DarkTan: nano saves it in a temporary location
[14:14] <DarkTan> ok
[14:14] <shadeslayer>  /etc
[14:15] <DarkTan> ok, so, open it, edit it, exit from terminal, then restart x?
[14:15] <shadeslayer> yeah,thatll probably work
[14:17] <shadeslayer> how do i install a splash .so image??
[14:17] <DarkTan> still no change
[14:17] <shadeslayer> DarkTan: what about the file??
[14:17] <shadeslayer> anyone here with a experience of using usplash??
[14:17] <DarkTan> re-written back to the original
[14:18] <shadeslayer> aaah
[14:18] <shadeslayer> that sucks
[14:18] <shadeslayer> !sudoedit
[14:18] <shadeslayer> hmm,did you save it at the same place,not at the temp place
[14:19] <DarkTan> i dunno, hang on sec brb
[14:20] <dboehmer> hello everyone
[14:20] <jithine> any one having the problem of xorg 70% cpu in kde 4.2
[14:20] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:20] <jithine> with kwin desktop effects enabled
[14:20] <dboehmer> i am currently using kubuntu and want to use the drive encryption
[14:20] <dboehmer> do i need to install the whole system or can i switch somehow?
[14:20] <shadeslayer> !encryption
[14:21] <shadeslayer> !driveencrypt
[14:21] <shadeslayer> grrr
[14:21] <jithine> i dont know whats wrong with xorg it just shoots to 70% but not always making my laptop useless
[14:21] <dboehmer> shadeslayer, i know how encryption works in general and how to set up via the system installer
[14:21] <Sylis> I need help with my NDIswrapper
[14:21] <shadeslayer> finally
[14:21] <dboehmer> i am just wondering if it would be possible to backup my system, create an encrypted system and import e.g. installed programs
[14:21] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:22] <shadeslayer> wb
[14:22] <DarkTan> ok, somehow managed to increases to 800x600
[14:22] <shadeslayer> dboehmer: no idea
[14:22] <shadeslayer> yayyyy
[14:22] <dboehmer> it would cost much time and download traffic to save the list of installed programs and install them all again
[14:22]  * shadeslayer dances on the screen
[14:22] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:22] <DarkTan> pasted my modified file in using kate as root. rebooted. got strange graphixs
[14:23] <shadeslayer> !strange
[14:23] <DarkTan> kde crashed, X wanted me to configure the gfx card
[14:23] <larsaam> Hey! I migrated from MacOSX to Kubuntu this week. I'm so happy now! KDE4 is so flexible and nice to work with! Really hope the Kubuntu team follow up on the rapid KDE4 bugfix cycle, thanks!!
[14:23] <Sylis> what about NDIswrapper >.<
[14:23] <ncfi1013> i recently restored my ipod to factory settings. it works fine on playback. it mounts in the new device manager. but it won't mount in amarok. can anybody tell me what the preconnect and postdisconnect commands are for a 3rd gen ipod?
[14:23]  * shadeslayer is frustrated with ubottu
[14:23] <DarkTan> so now i haz one step higher in the food chain
[14:23] <shadeslayer> !NDIswrapper
[14:23] <shadeslayer> ;)
[14:24] <shadeslayer> DarkTan:true
[14:24] <shadeslayer> XD
[14:24] <Sylis> can anyone help me slam my head against a wall then? haha
[14:24]  * DarkTan offers to gelp Sylis
[14:24] <DarkTan> ok, gonna try one more thing
[14:24] <DarkTan> brb
[14:24] <shadeslayer> Sylis: whats the exact problem
[14:26] <shadeslayer> wifi not working(card not intitialized) etc??
[14:27] <Sylis> ok, well I'm following this guide http://mirosol.kapsi.fi/tx2020/tx2000howto.htm and I've isntalled the 64 bit driver, and done everything it's said, but to no avail
[14:27] <shadeslayer> Sylis: type iwlist scan in konsole
[14:28] <Sylis> lo, eth0, pan0 don't support scanning, I had wlan on there earlier, but I unplugged the catV cable, and didn't have internet
[14:28] <shadeslayer> :|
[14:29] <Sylis> yes, I'm confused
[14:29] <shadeslayer> so basically you didnt plug a wifi card cable??
[14:29] <Sylis> I've tried it a good 3 times now and I have no idea what I'm doing
[14:29] <willow> hi
[14:29] <Sylis> wifi is built in
[14:29] <willow> can u help me
[14:29] <willow> plis
[14:29] <willow> ç_ç
[14:29] <willow> ?
[14:29] <shadeslayer> so whats the problem
[14:30] <Sylis> and I had a CatV cable in for internet so I could pull up the guide
[14:30] <Guest14885> i have a problem with kobuntu 8.10
[14:30] <Sylis> wifi won't bloody work
[14:30] <shadeslayer> !ask|Guest14
[14:30] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:30] <shadeslayer> Sylis: do this
[14:30] <shadeslayer> disable wireless and then reenable it
[14:30] <Sylis> ok
[14:31] <Sylis> fatal error
[14:31] <shadeslayer> :O
[14:31] <Guest14885> i have download flash playe but it doesnt work
[14:31] <shadeslayer> what KDE
[14:31] <shadeslayer> !flash|Guest14885
[14:31] <Sylis> uh..in...i something
[14:31] <Sylis> this is twice I forgot now
[14:32] <shadeslayer> paste the backtrace then
[14:32] <Sylis> bare with me it's my first day on linux >.<
[14:32] <shadeslayer> oh n00b
[14:32] <shadeslayer> me too
[14:32] <shadeslayer> ;)
[14:32] <shadeslayer> not first day but first month
[14:32] <Sylis> my head hurts
[14:32] <Guest14885> ?
[14:32] <Sylis> the driver is installed
[14:32] <Sylis> I took out all the bb43 etc
[14:32] <shadeslayer> Guest14885: use sudo apt-get install flash in terminal
[14:33] <shadeslayer> Sylis: please paste the backtrace of the crash
[14:34] <shadeslayer> !paste|Sylis
[14:34] <AimoParru> Hello all!
[14:34] <Sylis> haha it says, This backtrace appears to be of no use.
[14:34] <Riddell> ** new alpha candidate live CDs up for testing, come join us in #kubuntu-devel if you want to help with the alpha
[14:34] <shadeslayer> :|
[14:34] <Sylis> Um I'm not on the internet with it, I'm on a seperate computer
[14:35] <shadeslayer> ok
[14:35] <shadeslayer> try replicating it again
[14:35] <AimoParru> Does anyone know how to reinstall kde 4.2 to 8.10 kubuntu?
[14:35] <Sylis> same thing
[14:36] <shadeslayer> ok is this install from a canonical kubuntu CD
[14:36] <shadeslayer> Sylis: ??
[14:36] <ncfi1013> i recently restored my ipod to factory settings. it works fine on playback. it mounts in the new device manager. but it won't mount in amarok. can anybody tell me what the preconnect and postdisconnect commands are for a 3rd gen ipod?
[14:37] <bambix> can someone help me with display settings in the recent version of kubuntu?
[14:37] <Sylis> yea
[14:37] <bambix> cool
[14:37] <DarkTan> i am a damn evil genious!
[14:38] <Sylis> You rang shadeslayer
[14:38] <bambix> ok so in vmware i installed kubuntu, and added the vesa driver in xorg.conf
[14:38] <bambix> then added the subsection display with 1280x800 as resolution
[14:39] <DarkTan> i negleced to tell the x gfx config window that my monitor has way higher capabilities than 800x600. now i have the res i want, tho i don't think i have the full ranges.
[14:39] <bambix> but it starts in 600x800 and doesn't give the option anymore to change it to 1280x800
[14:39] <DarkTan> but what ever, i can use the think now
[14:39] <shadeslayer> DarkTan: wb,everything fixed??
[14:40] <DarkTan> not quite everything, but it's to the point of "good enough"
[14:40] <bambix> how do i cahnge the resolution for x and kde?
[14:40] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:40] <shadeslayer> DarkTan: your turn to help
[14:40] <shadeslayer> XD
[14:40] <DarkTan> heh
[14:40] <bambix> would be nice =)
[14:40]  * DarkTan thinks for a moment
[14:41] <DarkTan> there is a diaglog in X for changing the graphics options, i don't know how to get to it tho. I had to crash KDE to find it :P
[14:41] <bambix> =)
[14:42] <DarkTan> so, if you want i can tell you how to crash KDE to get there?
[14:42] <bambix> .....
[14:42] <DarkTan> lol
[14:42] <bambix> lol
[14:42] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:42] <bambix> but serious i set the driver and the display section in xorg.conf
[14:42] <shadeslayer> bambix: edit your /etc/X11/xconfig file
[14:42] <bambix> but somehow it doesn't take the resolution
[14:43] <shadeslayer> !sudoedit | bambix
[14:43] <DarkTan> to be honest, everythig i did in xorg.conf went out the window when i figured out to actually fix it
[14:43] <bambix> i did sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:43] <DarkTan> that did nothing for me
[14:43] <bambix> and added the vesa driver and the display subsection with correct resolution
[14:43] <bambix> ehm
[14:43] <bambix> kubuntu right?
[14:43] <DarkTan> i used kdesudo kate to edit the file, savedit, the restarted X with ctrl+alt_backspace
[14:43] <bambix> used xorf
[14:44] <bambix> xorg
[14:44] <bambix> ah ok
[14:44] <shadeslayer> bambix: sudoedit -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:44] <bambix> nano is the console way to edit stuff
[14:44] <shadeslayer> bambix: sudoedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:44] <shadeslayer> thats better
[14:44] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:44] <bambix> ok
[14:45] <shadeslayer> then save the file at the same location nano saves it in a temp location
[14:45] <bambix> and what should I add there?
[14:45] <bambix> nano asks to overwrite wich i do
[14:45] <shadeslayer> DarkTan: any idea what you added??
[14:45] <bambix> thing is what do i add to xorg.conf
[14:45] <bambix> yeah
[14:45] <Sens> Hello! I've got enormous problems after updating kubuntu 8.10 today: Sometimes the keyboard works, sometimes it doesn't. The window-borders are gone. Some windows can't be shut donw (not even with [Alt] + [F4]). Therefore the login backgrund changed.
[14:45] <shadeslayer> !borders
[14:45] <bambix> i added the vesa driver and the subsection for display
[14:46] <DarkTan> that's the thing, i added in a completely re-written file, which was dumped when it crashed on the X restart
[14:46] <DarkTan> nothing i added is in there now
[14:46] <AimoParru> Sens: I had the same problem
[14:46] <bambix> ok
[14:46] <AimoParru> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[14:46] <Sens> AimoParru: How did you solve them?
[14:46] <AimoParru> Sens: look above
[14:47] <bambix> I added
[14:47] <bambix> SubSection "Display"
[14:47] <bambix>         Depth           16
[14:47] <AimoParru> Sens: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[14:47] <bambix>         Modes           "1280x800"
[14:47] <bambix> EndSubSection
[14:47] <Sens> AimoParru: THX. And then reinstall the kubuntu desktop?
[14:47] <AimoParru> Sens: yes
[14:47] <bambix> and
[14:47] <bambix> Section "Device"
[14:47] <bambix>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[14:47] <bambix>         Driver          "vesa"
[14:47] <bambix> EndSection
[14:47] <Sens> AimoParru: Thanks. I'll try. BRB.
[14:48] <Pici> !paste
[14:48] <AimoParru> But now I don't know how to reinstall KDE 4.2, it installed 4.1
[14:48] <bambix> but it reverts to 800x600 and removes the 1280x800 setting from kde's display settings
[14:48] <DarkTan> bambix: i in this entire file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121277/
[14:48] <DarkTan> i put in*
[14:48] <AimoParru> This cannot be done twice:
[14:48] <AimoParru> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[14:48] <AimoParru> Why?
[14:49] <bambix> hmm
[14:49] <DarkTan> but i warn you, saving that as the xorg.conf /will/ crash on x restart, go in to low graphics mode and then give you options to reconfigure everything
[14:49] <bambix> I'll give it a go
[14:49] <DarkTan> make sure you know what gfx card you have first
[14:49] <AimoParru> My firtst istallation eas corrupted because of mysql. (I didn't have loopback)
[14:49] <shadeslayer> power outage
[14:50] <phoenix> hello
[14:50] <phoenix> is anyone here?
[14:50] <shadeslayer> yes
[14:50] <shadeslayer> maybe
[14:50] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:50] <phoenix> :)
[14:50] <DarkTan> LIEZ!
[14:50] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:50] <Guest58637> this is like my second time on an IRC :)
[14:50] <DarkTan> shadeslayer: bambix is going to try my "crash it and start over" method
[14:50] <AimoParru> I got mysql working, but it won't install KDE 4.2 anymore. Why?
[14:51] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[14:51] <Guest58637> could be dependency hell :P
[14:51] <AimoParru> Guest58637: Talking to me?
[14:51] <Guest58637> ?
[14:51] <Guest58637> yup
[14:52] <AimoParru> apt-get son't say anything about missing depencies.
[14:52] <Guest58637> hmmm...
[14:52] <Guest58637> try a lesser version of kde 4
[14:52] <Guest58637> like .1
[14:52] <Guest58637> I dont care much for kde 4 myself :P
[14:52] <AimoParru> But when I try to apt-get install kde, it will tell about missing libraries
[14:53] <Guest58637> true...
[14:53] <AimoParru> How to start the whole 4.2 installation again?
[14:53] <Guest58637> did you go apt-get -f install with nothing specified ?
[14:53] <Guest58637> you have to get rid of kde 4
[14:53] <Guest58637> go to a seperate non gui shell
[14:53] <Guest58637> and type
[14:54] <Guest58637> sudo apt-get remove --purge kde4 (or whatever main package)
[14:54] <Guest58637> it might be kde vs kde4 but thats the jift of it
[14:54] <Guest58637> then you re install
[14:54] <Guest58637> sudo apt-get install kde-core or whatever
[14:54] <DarkTan> well, Bambix dropped, lets see if it work from him too ;)
[14:55] <Guest58637> or you could always download latest kde 3 version (just this week kubuntu 8.04.2 came out)
[14:55] <Guest58637> or dist upgrade
[14:55] <Guest58637> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:55] <Guest58637> just my 2 cents
[14:55] <AimoParru> I tried dist-upgrade
[14:55] <AimoParru> nothing to upgrade
[14:55] <shadeslayer> nope thats not the command
[14:55] <Guest58637> hmm...
[14:55] <Guest58637> hang on
[14:55] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:56] <AimoParru> it installs kde 4.1
[14:56] <Guest58637> should be a command.
[14:56] <Guest58637> google it
[14:56] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:56] <AimoParru> I've tried
[14:56] <shadeslayer> what do you want then??
[14:56] <Guest58637> :(
[14:56] <Guest58637> try a lesser version kde 4.1
[14:56] <AimoParru> REinstall kde 4.2
[14:56] <AimoParru> now it installs 4.1
[14:57] <Guest58637> you sould like a friend of mine :D he is an upgrade freak :D
[14:57] <Guest58637> he always likes the best packages/newest
[14:57] <Guest58637> even though he hates kde 4 :P
[14:57] <Guest58637> go figure
[14:57] <vbgunz> can anyone here using intrepid please tell me, what version of konsole is running on intrepid?
[14:57] <AimoParru> Actually it's my wifes computer and there is better power management in KDE 4.2
[14:57] <Guest58637> lol
[14:57] <Guest58637> thats a good reason
[14:57] <Guest58637> :)
[14:58] <Guest58637> you could always try upgrading kpowersave
[14:58] <Guest58637> sudo apt-get install kpowersave
[14:58] <AimoParru> She wanted to try 4.2 and I fucked it up
[14:58] <Guest58637> lol
[14:58] <Guest58637> but you still need mysql?
[14:58] <shadeslayer> AimoParru: install 4.1 and upgrade to 4.2
[14:58] <AimoParru> Mysql is running
[14:58] <Guest58637> weird
[14:58] <AimoParru> I've got 4.1 now running in it
[14:58] <AimoParru> it won't upgrade to 4.2
[14:58] <BluesKaj> konsole is using kde 4.2 on intrepid, vbgunz
[14:58] <Guest58637> that is very weir
[14:58] <AimoParru> that is the problem
[14:59] <Guest58637> boot synaptic
[14:59] <Guest58637> and take a  look
[14:59] <Guest58637> at kde
[14:59] <Guest58637> might have a diff package name
[14:59] <vbgunz> damn
[14:59] <Guest58637> like how kde3 had kde and kde4
[14:59] <Guest58637> as packages
[14:59] <BluesKaj> vbgunz , what's the prob?
[15:00] <Sens> AimoParru: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop did not work.
[15:00] <AimoParru> I'll check adept manager
[15:00] <Guest58637> yeah, not everyday someone saiys damn for no reason :D
[15:00] <Guest58637> ok
[15:00] <Guest58637> i hate adept tho
[15:00] <Guest58637> luv synaptic
[15:00] <AimoParru> Sens: Take desktop effects off
[15:00] <Guest58637> ive played with a couple other easy install stuff, like tuxsoftware, cnr etc... but dont work.
[15:00] <Guest58637> kwin --replace
[15:00] <Guest58637> gets off 3d
[15:00]  * DarkTan has both due to running KDE and XFCE
[15:01] <shadeslayer> DarkTan: hows xfce??
[15:01] <Guest58637> if you got emerald it disables that too
[15:01] <shadeslayer> i have GNOME and KDE
[15:01] <Sens> AimoParru: I'll try. BRB.
[15:01] <Guest58637> ok
[15:01] <DarkTan> it's good for low end computers. runs quick, doesn't have many of the nice littel graphical features
[15:01] <Guest58637> you dont have to restart x for that persay..
[15:02] <Guest58637> yeah those graphical features are what I miss (darktan)
[15:02] <Guest58637> :P
[15:02] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:02] <Guest58637> i like my desktop looking niiiice
[15:02] <Guest58637> :)
[15:02] <AimoParru> I tried install kde:
[15:02] <AimoParru> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[15:02] <shadeslayer> DarkTan: what about the heat produced??
[15:02] <Guest58637> LOL
[15:02] <DarkTan> well i have a low end laptop with 64meg of video ram, so i run Xubuntu on it
[15:02] <shadeslayer> from the GPU,significantly less??
[15:02] <AimoParru> Sorry, wrong paste
[15:02] <AimoParru> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[15:02] <DarkTan> it's a laptop
[15:02] <AimoParru> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[15:02] <AimoParru> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[15:02] <AimoParru> or been moved out of Incoming.
[15:02] <AimoParru> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[15:02] <AimoParru> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[15:03] <AimoParru> that package should be filed.
[15:03] <AimoParru> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[15:03] <AimoParru> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:03] <Guest58637> bummer :(
[15:03] <AimoParru>   kde: Depends: kdepim (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[15:03] <DarkTan> it does run cooler under XFCE tho
[15:03] <Guest58637> oh now you got dependency hell (aimoparru)
[15:03]  * shadeslayer installs xfce
[15:03] <AimoParru> Yes, how to resolve it
[15:03] <Guest58637> LOL
[15:03] <Guest58637> upgrade your os
[15:03] <Guest58637> :P
[15:03] <Guest58637> get the latest kubuntu release
[15:04] <Guest58637> i hate dependency hell :(
[15:04] <shadeslayer> alpha??
[15:04] <shadeslayer> no ways
[15:04] <Suiko> attention attention please; i have a proposal to make: Wrestling is not a fluke;
[15:04] <Guest58637> ??
[15:04] <Guest58637> were did you come it?
[15:04] <Guest58637> wrestling ?
[15:04] <Guest58637> :P
[15:04] <DarkTan> hmmm...Bambix has be gone a long time...
[15:04] <shadeslayer> man Xfce is LIGHT
[15:04] <Guest58637> yup
[15:04] <AimoParru> I tried upgrade:
[15:04] <Guest58637> lemme see
[15:04] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: downgrading Konsole in Jaunty, fixes a problem with Yakuake splits
[15:04] <AimoParru> sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:04] <AimoParru> Reading package lists... Done
[15:04] <AimoParru> Building dependency tree
[15:04] <AimoParru> Reading state information... Done
[15:04] <DarkTan> dan spam bots....
[15:04] <AimoParru> The following packages have been kept back:
[15:04] <AimoParru>   akregator kaddressbook kdebluetooth kdepim-kresources kdepim-strigi-plugins
[15:04] <AimoParru>   kdepim-wizards kmail knotes kontact korganizer ktimetracker libkdepim4
[15:04] <shadeslayer> !ops
[15:04] <AimoParru>   libkholidays4 libkleo4 libkpgp4 libksieve4 libmimelib4 phonon-backend-xine
[15:04] <AimoParru>   plasmoid-quickaccess
[15:05] <AimoParru> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.
[15:05] <DarkTan> shadeslayer: yes, it is small and doesn't have a whole bunch of stuff with it
[15:05] <Guest58637> he left  a long time ago :P
[15:05] <Pici> AimoParru: Please don't do that.
[15:05] <vbgunz> aaroncampbell__: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:05] <AimoParru> ?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> AimoParru: !paste
[15:05] <gnomefreak> AimoParru: please use pastebin
[15:05] <Pici> !paste | AimoParru
[15:05] <shadeslayer> oops
[15:05] <Guest58637> lol
[15:05] <vbgunz> aaroncampbell__: sorry
[15:05] <shadeslayer> XD
[15:05] <AimoParru> Sorry
[15:05] <vbgunz> AimoParru: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:05] <Guest58637> he says it dont work
[15:06] <Suiko> !joomla
[15:06] <AimoParru> Yes, won't work
[15:06] <Guest58637> jumla ?
[15:06] <Guest58637> what about it?
[15:06] <gnomefreak> AimoParru: dist-upgrade wont work? i saw you tried upgrade
[15:06] <Suiko> has someone got any experience on joomla so far=
[15:06] <Guest58637> :P no offense suiko but you always come in on strange topics :P XDXD
[15:06] <Guest58637> yes i do
[15:07] <Suiko> and how is it?
[15:07] <Guest58637> fine its a CMS system for websites
[15:07] <Suiko> easy to handle?
[15:07] <Guest58637> but not too good for real websites
[15:07] <Guest58637> more for news/blog stuff
[15:07] <Guest58637> "articles"
[15:07] <Guest58637> not websites that much
[15:07] <Guest58637> nice thing is when you change something it changes the whole thing
[15:07] <Guest58637> so like theme
[15:07] <Guest58637> you dont have to go back through everything
[15:07] <Guest58637> page
[15:08] <Guest58637> and change it
[15:08] <Guest58637> just one spot
[15:08] <Guest58637> but i dont use it too much cuz i like real websites :)
[15:08] <Suiko> well, that is natural; everything is trough outsourcing
[15:08] <Guest58637> yu[
[15:08] <Guest58637> *yup
[15:08] <Suiko> i plan to use joomla in cooperation with ruby on rails
[15:09] <Guest58637> thats a good idea :D
[15:09] <Guest58637> i am more a php guy myself but ruby aint bad i must admit
[15:09] <Guest58637> on rails at least
[15:09] <Guest58637> if i had to use ruby might as wel just use c
[15:09] <Suiko> yeah, its a nice invention
[15:09] <Guest58637> yup
[15:10] <Guest58637> most of my dev is with php, html & shell scripting
[15:10] <Guest58637> its a killer, but hey its a job :)
[15:10] <Suiko> i prefer c
[15:10] <Suiko> but i am still learning =D
[15:10] <Guest58637> hehehe
[15:10] <Sens> AimoParru: Didn't work either.
[15:10] <Guest58637> :(
[15:11] <Guest58637> bummer
[15:11] <Guest58637> who here likes kde 4 ?
[15:11] <Guest58637> just out of curiosity
[15:11] <Sens> Will there be problems downgrading from Kubuntu 8.10 to Kubuntu 8.04?
[15:11] <MaGicKanGaRoo> magickangaroo
[15:11] <Guest58637> dont downgrade
[15:11] <Guest58637> just download
[15:11] <Guest58637> there will be problems i assure you if you try to downgrade :P
[15:11] <Guest58637> major major dependency hell
[15:12] <Guest58637> you couldnt even do an apt-get hardly :P
[15:12] <Guest58637> and you have to tweak repos :P
[15:12] <Suiko> ohhh man, the new kde4* is a pain in the arse
[15:12] <Guest58637> yup
[15:12] <Guest58637> its ugly too
[15:12] <Guest58637>  :P
[15:12] <Suiko> my whole database is mixed up
[15:12] <Guest58637> lol
[15:12] <Suiko> cant find anything anymore
[15:13] <Sens> Guest58637: I'd do a clean reinstall (leaving the /home-partition)
[15:13] <Guest58637> hmm.. not bad idea
[15:13] <Guest58637> just cp home dir
[15:13] <Guest58637> btw
[15:13] <Guest58637> did you know
[15:13] <Guest58637> if you copy the home dir
[15:13] <Guest58637> (hidden files included)
[15:13] <AimoParru> Sens: Try to rename ~/.kde ~/.kde_old
[15:13] <Suiko> i think i will install gentoo on my laptop now
[15:13] <Guest58637> you are going to kill youself
[15:13] <Guest58637> :P
[15:13] <Guest58637> even debian is horrible :P
[15:14] <AimoParru> Sens: and restart kde
[15:14] <Suiko> well, on my desktop it works fine
[15:14] <Guest58637> I wuz making a cutom debian spin the otherday
[15:14] <Guest58637> and debian sucks
[15:14] <Guest58637> you have to configure sudo by hand!
[15:14] <Guest58637> :P
[15:14] <Guest58637> and it looks like win2k :P
[15:14] <Suiko> debian is nice too, but the install management is horrible
[15:14] <Guest58637> yup
[15:14] <Guest58637> nasty
[15:14] <Guest58637> kpackage never wuz anything special :P
[15:15] <Guest58637> i just got sick of it
[15:15] <Guest58637> so i pulled together
[15:15] <Suiko> in gentoo you know exaclly what you have and where you have what
[15:15] <Guest58637> a web based database
[15:15] <Guest58637> hmmm...
[15:15] <Guest58637> do you have to compile from source?
[15:15] <Suiko> y
[15:15] <Guest58637>  :P
[15:15] <Guest58637> i hate that :P
[15:15] <Guest58637> pain in the arse
[15:15] <Suiko> but therefore you have your scripts; dont you think?
[15:15] <Guest58637> cuz it always gives erros
[15:15] <Guest58637> ?
[15:15] <Guest58637> scripts?
[15:16] <Suiko> to compile your stuff
[15:16] <Guest58637> yeah
[15:16] <Guest58637> but they almost always fail
[15:16] <Guest58637> 9 out of 10 :P
[15:16] <Guest58637> and then you have to fix everything
[15:16] <Guest58637> the deb was the best thing invted XDXD
[15:16] <Guest58637> wait
[15:16] <Guest58637> does gentoo have portage?
[15:16] <Suiko> i had the same problem at start...but then i changed some preferences and baam it worked fine
[15:16] <Suiko> y
[15:16] <Suiko> yea
[15:16] <Guest58637> use that :)
[15:16] <Guest58637> slack has slapt-get
[15:16] <Suiko> i do; i guess
[15:17] <Guest58637> RH has yum rpm and apt-rpm
[15:17] <Guest58637> but still i hate RH :P
[15:17] <Suiko> radhat sucks balls
[15:17] <Guest58637> yup
[15:17] <Guest58637> i guess thats why we on kubuntu irc XDXD
[15:17] <Suiko> gentoo is the one and only
[15:18] <Guest58637> lol
[15:18] <Suiko> well; i updated to 4.2
[15:18] <Guest58637> *buntu does fine for me :) easy to use, sudo, apt-get :D
[15:18] <Suiko> where is my mysql frontend?
[15:18] <Guest58637> no clue
[15:18] <Suiko> that is the problem
[15:18] <Guest58637> Lol
[15:18] <Suiko> i tried to install xampp
[15:18] <Guest58637> see i am an ease of use guy. my job is to make linux easy to use.
[15:18] <Guest58637> :)
[15:18] <Suiko> but mysql is already running
[15:19] <Suiko> w00t
[15:19] <Sens> AimoParru: Thank you for your effort, but I'm done with KDE 4 so far. I'll use KDE 3.5 as long als KDE 4 isn't usable for everyday work.
[15:19] <Guest58637> lol
[15:19] <Guest58637> good for you
[15:19] <Guest58637> :)
[15:19] <Guest58637> im waiting for kde 5
[15:19] <Guest58637> I was mad dissapointed with kde 4
[15:19] <Guest58637> good timing too
[15:19] <Suiko> kde4.* really isnt stable
[15:19] <Guest58637> cuz kubuntu 8.04.2
[15:19] <Guest58637> just came out
[15:19] <Guest58637> yup
[15:20] <Guest58637> kubuntu 8.04.2 just saves you upgrade time
[15:20] <Sens> Guest58637: KDE 5 would be probably too long to wait for.
[15:20] <Suiko> how can i kill mysql through the terminal?
[15:20] <Guest58637> a few years
[15:20] <Guest58637> hang on
[15:20] <AimoParru> Sens: Ok. You're right, KDE 4.X ain't that goo yet
[15:20] <Guest58637> ill find
[15:20] <Guest58637> btw anyone every tried xkill?
[15:21] <Guest58637> wonderful :)
[15:21] <Suiko> mom i try it
[15:21] <SlimeyPete> xkill is very handy.
[15:21] <Guest58637> yup
[15:21] <Sens> AimoParru: I hope that will change with KDE 4.2 respecrively Kubuntu 9.04
[15:21] <Guest58637> damn
[15:21] <Guest58637> yeah
[15:22] <Guest58637> "/sbin/service mysqld restart"
[15:22] <Suiko> nice
[15:22] <Guest58637> without quotes
[15:22] <Guest58637> thanks
[15:22] <Guest58637> might not work
[15:22] <Guest58637> but worht a shot
[15:22] <Guest58637> you know
[15:22] <Guest58637> someone should take a poll :D
[15:22] <Suiko> how can i kill the mysql deamon?
[15:22] <Guest58637> users under 18 of
[15:22] <Guest58637> search
[15:23] <Guest58637> kbuntu
[15:23] <Guest58637> google it
[15:23] <Suiko> dont have time, tell me
[15:23] <Guest58637> "How can i stop/kill mysql daemon"
[15:23] <giarca> Suiko: ps xa |grep mysql
[15:23] <Guest58637> thats what I did :P
[15:23] <giarca> Suiko: sudo kill -9 PID
[15:23] <Guest58637> i just googled it
[15:23] <Guest58637> :P
[15:23] <Suiko> ahhh thanks
[15:23] <giarca> np
[15:24] <Guest58637> *buntu has to be the most popular unix based os on earth
[15:24] <Guest58637> atm
[15:24] <Sens> brb
[15:24] <Guest58637> welll
[15:24] <Guest58637> maybe mac is more popular
[15:25] <dr_Willis> 'linux'  would be a better term - in your statement. :)
[15:25] <Guest58637> LOL
[15:25] <Guest58637> *nix based
[15:25] <Guest58637> :)
[15:26] <Guest58637> its more popular than FreeBSD
[15:26] <Suiko> it will not die !
[15:26] <Guest58637> XD
[15:26] <Guest58637> yup
[15:26] <Guest58637> btw
[15:26] <Guest58637> windows outnumbers *nix 9:1
[15:26] <Guest58637> on netbooks
[15:26] <Guest58637> :(
[15:26] <Guest58637> and thats only XP
[15:26] <Guest58637> windows 7 comes out this summer :(
[15:26] <Guest58637> and it runs better than XP on netbooks :(
[15:27] <dr_Willis> Im running windows 7 now.
[15:27] <Guest58637> LOL
[15:27] <dr_Willis> I couldent get it to install on my netbook.
[15:27] <Guest58637> why you here then XDXD
[15:27] <Guest58637> well i got a ton of friends that got it
[15:27] <dr_Willis> I got win7 on this box.. and wifes laptop right now.
[15:27] <Suiko> windows 7?
[15:27] <dr_Willis> it DOEs run better on it - then vista did
[15:27] <Suiko> are you a msdnaa student?
[15:27] <Guest58637> wun of my friends his head of win viena forums
[15:27] <Guest58637> :P
[15:27] <Guest58637> i am always molesting them XDXD
[15:28] <dr_Willis> I do NOT plan on paying $200+ per machine just to get windows7
[15:28] <Guest58637> LOL
[15:28] <Guest58637> XD
[15:28] <Guest58637> well trial only lasts till aug 31 right?
[15:28] <dr_Willis> No idea.
[15:28] <Guest58637> thats wut i heard
[15:28] <Guest58637> d*mn microsh*t
[15:29] <dr_Willis> I will either restore her pc back to vista - or perhaps buy 7 for her.. if she likes it..
[15:29] <Guest58637> i am using Kubuntu 8.04.1 atm
[15:29] <dr_Willis> but  if its like $200 - id just save up and buy her a whole new laptop :)
[15:29] <Guest58637> lol
[15:29] <Guest58637> uless they is 600 with win 7 :P
[15:29] <dr_Willis> I  think the ms claims abouit netbooks will be overrated.
[15:29] <Guest58637> lol
[15:30] <Guest58637> we will see...
[15:30] <dr_Willis> a $400 laptop is not going to get another $200 put in it - for windows7
[15:30] <Guest58637> lol
[15:30] <dr_Willis> Ill put Kubuntu on it . and call it Windows8
[15:30] <Guest58637> hehehe
[15:30] <Guest58637> you need to theme it
[15:30] <Guest58637> :)
[15:30] <Guest58637> then you can call it vista XDXD
[15:30] <Guest58637> even tho all hate vista
[15:30] <Guest58637> even vista users :P
[15:30] <dr_Willis> she ran windows95 inside virtualbox on linux.. for  close to 2 years...
[15:30] <Guest58637> LOL
[15:31] <Guest58637> thats a windows fanatic
[15:31] <Guest58637> :P
[15:31] <Guest58637> windows sucks
[15:31] <Suiko> man, i hate this new kubuntu !
[15:31] <Guest58637> yup
[15:31] <Guest58637> all do :D
[15:31] <Guest58637> xcept for a few M$ loves XD
[15:31] <dr_Willis> Demand a refund!
[15:32] <Guest58637> LOL
[15:32] <Guest58637> yup
[15:32] <Guest58637> here is your 0.00 refund :)
[15:32] <Guest58637> XDXD
[15:32] <Suiko> get me bill gates
[15:32] <Suiko> he is behind this all !
[15:32] <Guest58637> hehehe
[15:32] <Guest58637> well im gonna leave, got some progrmmin to do, maybe back later dis afternoon
[15:33] <Guest58637> cyz
[15:33] <Suiko> he created a "rival" that sucks so much that everyone goes back to his evil breed
[15:33] <Guest58637> lol
[15:34] <user123> hallo
[15:34] <user123> deutsche hier
[15:34] <Pici> !de
[15:34] <user123> ?
[15:34] <Pici> :)
[15:35] <AimoParru> I tried a big paste
[15:35] <AimoParru> What to do next=
[15:35] <AimoParru> aptitude almost works
[15:36] <AimoParru> Hmm, is this the paste?
[15:36] <AimoParru> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122866/
[15:38] <Sens> user123: Schon, aber für Diskussionen auf Deutsch gibt's den Kannal: #kubuntu-de.
[15:41] <juanescobarsamur> ¿Como tengo que hacer para comenzar Mysql Administrador?(How I have to do to start to use MYSQL Administrator?)
[15:44] <DarkTan> ! esp juanescobarsamur
[15:44] <DarkTan> !esp juanescobarsamur
[15:44] <DarkTan> ...
[15:44] <DarkTan> !esp
[15:44]  * DarkTan gives up
[15:49] <fabio_> como entro na sala br?
[15:49] <Sens> CU!
[15:49] <Suiko> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:49] <Suiko> nothing works correctly
[15:50] <Suiko> nor server; nor interfaces
[15:50] <fabio_> hum?
[15:51] <Suiko> and no backends
[15:52] <fabio_> i want enter in room br
[15:53] <SlimeyPete> !brazil
[15:54] <gray_> does anyone know how to keep conky from minimizing when i click show desktop??
[15:54] <Suiko> i guess; kubuntu in his current version is just good for beginners, ordinary user and porn
[15:55] <DarkTan> o_0
[15:55] <user123> Sens : ja habe ihn schon gefunden
[15:55] <SlimeyPete> gray_: try in #conky ?
[15:55] <gray_> thank slimeypete
[15:56] <SlimeyPete> Suiko: the previous version of kubuntu is rather a lot more reliable & functional
[15:57] <fabio_> thank you
[16:03] <linuske> Bonjour !
[16:03] <linuske> COmment rejoint on le canal ubuntu?
[16:05] <benny_> Hi, I try to upgrade 8.10 to kde 4.2
[16:05] <benny_> however, only some packages appear of 4.2
[16:05] <benny_> upgrade then removes kdm, ....
[16:06] <benny_> are the instructions on http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 no longer correct ?
[16:07] <AimoParru> benny_: I'm having same problems.
[16:07] <AimoParru> I don't know the answer yet
[16:07] <benny_> it looks like the repository no longer has the base package
[16:07] <benny_> only som applications still live there like kmail and akregator, ....
[16:07] <AimoParru> Could it be the reason?!?!
[16:07] <benny_> but doing upgrade of only those breaks the system
[16:08] <AimoParru> oh deer!
[16:13] <Jampiter> Hi
[16:13] <Jampiter> Where abouts are the default system sounds kept in KDE 4.2?
[16:17] <sampattuzzi> I'm trying to upgrade to kde 4.2 on intrepid but I can't upgrade because there are dependency errors.
[16:17] <sampattuzzi> I had neon updates installed previously
[16:17] <benny_> It looks like http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-amd64/
[16:17] <benny_> is not correct
[16:17] <knusperfrosch> hi!
[16:18] <benny_> the packages fail to list eg the new networkmanager for kde 4.2
[16:18] <knusperfrosch> i installed qt-4.5 from a ppa. how can i get rid of it?
[16:18] <Jampiter> Where abouts are the default system sounds kept in KDE 4.2?
[16:18] <knusperfrosch> i removed the ppa from my surces-list but packages aren't downgraded automatically
[16:19] <knusperfrosch> is there some option for apt-get?
[16:19] <benny_> is it not apt-get update
[16:19] <benny_> then apt-get upgrade ?
[16:19] <knusperfrosch> i need apt-get downgrade ;)
[16:19] <knusperfrosch> qt4.5 packages are kept unless there is some newer version
[16:20] <benny_> I just downgraded after failed 4.2 upgrade, and I used upgrade ;-)
[16:20] <Jampiter> Where abouts are the default system sounds kept in KDE 4.2? Does anybody know?
[16:21] <benny_> Jampiter: locate sound
[16:21] <Suiko> is cedega open source or not?
[16:21] <knusperfrosch> how do i get exact package versions in apt-get upgrade?
[16:21] <benny_> gives me /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Log-In-Short.ogg
[16:22] <sampattuzzi> Suiko: not
[16:22] <knusperfrosch> benny_: right, apt-get upgrade does it. aptitude not.
[16:25] <sampattuzzi> adding the repos from the kubuntu site for 4.2 and all I get is a message telling me that packages are being kept back.
[16:26] <Jampiter> Thanks benny_
[16:34] <AlbaT> hi ppl
[16:34] <AlbaT> has anyone had problem with slow download speed
[16:34] <SlimeyPete> hi
[16:34] <AlbaT> i installed a ftprush with wine and speed is only 1 mb/s
[16:35] <AlbaT> but with kftp i get 8mb/s
[16:35] <AlbaT> same place
[16:35] <AlbaT> can anyone tell me where is catsh?
[16:41] <Rioting_pacifist> im getting errors running almost any program, gdb keeps mentioning "/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2" how do i fix this?
[16:41] <Penguiniator> Does anyone know if bash 4.0 will be backported to 8.04?
[16:41] <Rioting_pacifist> !find /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[16:41] <Rioting_pacifist> Penguiniator: i doubt it it may be in some ppas though
[16:41] <Rioting_pacifist> !find ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[16:42] <Penguiniator> Rioting_pacifist: thanks
[16:43] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys i have a question. i just bought two 1.5tb harddrives
[16:43] <ForzaPalermo> i would like to raid or lvm them... what is better, and then how can i go ahead and do that... i dont want the OS installed on the two hds
[16:44] <dr_Willis> I thought you could raid a lvm.. or use lvm on a raid...
[16:44] <dr_Willis> or somthing like that. :)
[16:44] <dr_Willis> id just use one.. and use the other to backup to on a regular basis...
[16:44] <dr_Willis> but im lazy
[16:46] <ForzaPalermo> i dunno, i just want to implenet one or the other so the drives are seen as one volume
[16:46] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: what do you want lvm offers many, features, raid offers a performance vs stability trade off ?
[16:47] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: if you want it too look like 1 big 3tb drive, then raid0 will give you a performance boost at the expense that if either drive breaks all you data is lost
[16:49] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: both are fairly easy to do with the alt install CD but i recomend you give raid (i think wikipedia has a good article, you can only setup 1 or 0 simply on 2 drives though) and lvm (the lvm howto may be good) pages a read to figure out what you want 1st
[16:53] <AlbaT> i have raid utility wiht my mobo
[16:53] <AlbaT> but yeah if some of those hdds broke all data is lost
[16:53] <i3ooi3oo> AlbaT: is it software based or hardware based
[16:53] <AlbaT> better if you leave them as different
[16:54] <i3ooi3oo> because many mobo support software raid not true hardware raids
[16:54] <AlbaT> but does anyone have answer to my question
[16:54] <AlbaT> why i get so slow speed in ftprush
[16:55] <Rioting_pacifist> AlbaT: it depends what raid you are running
[16:55] <leon__> hi all, I want to remove kubuntu (kde3) from a partition and enlarge another (kde4) by the removed one. can anyone pls advise?
[16:55] <Rioting_pacifist> leon__: which kubuntu do you have installed
[16:56] <leon__> Rioting_pacifist: both 8.04 and 8.10 at the mo
[16:57] <leon__> sda1=win, sdb1=8.04, sdb6=8.10
[16:57] <leon__> kept original (8.04) 'till I was happy that all my dev stuff worked properly on 8.10
[16:58] <dr_Willis> gparted can delete/resize.. be carefull with grub.. you are letting 8.10 controll grub?
[16:58] <leon__> and had moved all over to it
[16:58] <dr_Willis> problem with resizing is it MIGHT change the uuid's and confuse grub and the fstab files
[16:59] <leon__> i think it's the 8.10, lemme quickly check...
[16:59] <AlbaT> Rioting_pacifist i dont use any raid just linux hdd 300g sata drive
[16:59] <leon__> yep, 8.10 now controlling
[17:00] <leon__> i was thinking to delete 8.04 and enlarge 8.10 by what i gain from the delete?
[17:01] <leon__> am a bit worried that the 8.10 sits in extended, or shouldn't I be?
[17:01] <vali> dsfg
[17:01] <vali> sdfg
[17:01] <vali> df
[17:01] <vali> g
[17:01] <vali> sdf
[17:01] <vali> gsd
[17:01] <vali> fg
[17:01] <vali> sdfg
[17:01] <vali> sdf
[17:02] <dr_Willis> cat on the keyboard?
[17:02] <dr_Willis> or did you fall asleep
[17:02] <fosco__> vali: switch off the cat :-)
[17:02] <dr_Willis> leon__,  shouldent matter what partition its in
[17:02] <dr_Willis> You could delete the 8.04 and just move /home to  the new space
[17:03] <Rioting_pacifist> leon__: i was going to ask about that why is it on 6? anything real between the disks
[17:03] <leon__> Rioting_pacifist: just the way i installed 8.10 at the time
[17:04] <leon__> b1 and 2 were the original 8.04 install
[17:05] <leon__> had to move postgreSQL with all my data and didn't want to take too much of a chance, I guess
[17:05] <leon__> but all that working well now
[17:08] <leon__> dr_Willis: so, delete sdb1 and 2, then create a /home partition in the space, then move current home to that new space?
[17:10] <leon__> guys, gotta run to fetch someone quickly, brb (30mins or so), thanks so far dr_Willis and Rioting_pacifist
[17:11] <dr_Willis> leon__,  You dont have to delete them...
[17:11] <dr_Willis> oh well :) he could have a /home and a /stuff ;)
[17:12] <Rioting_pacifist> yeah but it makes a much cleaner setup if theres nothing to lose to delete then and have just /home
[17:12] <Rioting_pacifist> im getting errors running almost any program, gdb keeps mentioning "/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2" how do i fix this?
[17:17] <Jampiter> What is the name of the KDE4 screensaver package?
[17:22] <vbgunz> quick screen question
[17:22] <vbgunz> going through man screen, I keep missing how when I create a new region, how to actually make it useful
[17:22] <vbgunz> how can I get a bash prompt in the new region?
[17:24] <dr_Willis> Hmm Not sure. :)
[17:24] <dr_Willis> most of the screen docs ive everf seen sort of skip over the complex stuff like that
[17:35] <Rioting_pacifist> brb my hdd died (stupid mobo)
[17:42] <leon__> dr_Willis: Rioting_pacifist - tks for the heads-up, appreciate
[17:44] <Rioting_pacifist> np, resizing and rearanging should work fine, but as always backup any important stuff, probably tar it up then stick it on the windows drive
[17:46] <SuperTonkies> Do I need to try to install my manufactor's audio ? Or is leaving it at the defaults OK ?
[17:53] <palaiokwstas> how can i mount an internal hd in kde4 forever if i hadn't done it on installation?
[17:54] <palaiokwstas> in system settings there is no more that choice
[17:55] <fosco__> palaiokwstas, set that drive in /etc/fstab file
[17:55] <palaiokwstas> thanks fosco__
[17:57] <jussi01> !tv
[17:58] <martijn81> i would leave it at the defaults
[18:05] <solifugus> who actually supports kubuntu?
[18:05] <ubuntu_> holla
[18:05] <ubuntu_> kubuntu
[18:06] <DasKreech> !hola
[18:06] <DasKreech> !hi | ubuntu_
[18:06] <DasKreech> solifugus: A fair amount of people here
[18:07] <solifugus> DasKreech: ok.. great.. I thank them for their work.. does anyone know when kde 4.2 will be considered stable in kubuntu?
[18:07] <solifugus> roughly?
[18:07] <DasKreech> solifugus: Probably when It's released by KDE
[18:07] <solifugus> ah.. ok
[18:08] <DasKreech> Which about a month ago
[18:09] <Slartibartfast> huh? ... So you think kde 4.2 is not yet released ?
[18:09] <Tm_T> Slartibartfast: it is
[18:10] <DasKreech> Slartibartfast: his question was when would it be considered stable by Kubuntu
[18:11] <Slartibartfast> yes i thought so ... http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/index.php  ... maybe a misunderstanding but it looked like if you were saying it first had to be released by kde
[18:14] <Slartibartfast> running jaunty already on my desktop and it really looks great
[18:14] <Slartibartfast> with kde 4..2
[18:15] <DasKreech> Slartibartfast: I was saying whenever it's released bu KDE
[18:15] <DasKreech> followed by that happened a month ago
[18:15] <DasKreech> solifugus: If you would like to try out KDE 4.2 the link is in the topic
[18:16] <Slartibartfast> OK .. Sorry DasKreech, seems i misread your comments
[18:17] <Slartibartfast> Seems KDE 4.2 is now also already in the back-ports repostories
[18:17] <Slartibartfast> for 8.10
[18:17] <Rioting_pacifist>  im getting "0x0000003000009a1a in ?? () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2" from gdb, how do i reinstall ld-linux-x86-64.so
[18:31] <deus_> hey
[18:31] <deus_> Does anybody know in kubuntu how I swich between my usb headset and my boxes? I can see both my soundcard and my headset, but I don't know how to switch to my headset
[18:32] <BluesKaj> deus, look in alsamixer, make sure your line out is unmuted
[18:33] <deus_> BluesKaj: hm, how do I get there? via the graphical interface or via the command prompt?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> deus, type alsamixer in the terminal
[18:35] <jonah> hey guys - i've had kubuntu 8.10 for a while now and i want to install on a new computer. but in order to get kde 4.2 do you still have to add the testing repos/launchpad repos etc in and remove 4.1 - it all seems abit messy. is there anywhere i can download an iso of kubuntu which is upto date 8.10 with kde 4.2 and default repos etc?
[18:36] <Daskreech2> jonah: I thnk that 4.2 is in packports now
[18:36] <Daskreech2> So you should be able to install enable that repo in adept and update
[18:36] <deus_> BluesKaj: there is no such thing as 'line out', but there is something that's called 'line'
[18:37] <jonah> Daskreech2, that would be good, if i could install from cd and then it just updated without all these launchpad and testing repos in there. also amarok new version which you currently have to add different repos for
[18:37] <deus_> BluesKaj: I think he selects my audio card as output device, but he should use my usb headset
[18:38] <Daskreech2> jonah: I don't think that's in backports.
[18:38] <Daskreech2> jonah: It's currently at the stage that KDE 4.0 was. Interesting for those who want to use it but shouldn't be given to users who don't expect it
[18:38] <Assurbanipal> hi, i am running kubuntu 8,10 with kde 4,2. is there  a way that the "open with" dialog box of firefox shows me the program list instead of getting me to browse through my drive?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> deus_, line is usually line out , llok for a seperate line , just to be sure
[18:39] <BluesKaj> look
[18:39] <deus_> BluesKaj: 'line' was indeed muted, I increaded the volume of line
[18:40] <BluesKaj> deus_ , I meant to say look for a seperate line in
[18:40] <deus_> BluesKaj: there is no 'line in'
[18:40] <BluesKaj> line in is usually unmuted , without a vol ctrl, but not always..depends on the audio card
[18:41] <deus_> BluesKaj: when I scroll through the options, I can only see options related to my sound card. Nowhere they mention my logitech *USB*  headset
[18:41] <BluesKaj> on board soundcard or pci ?
[18:41] <deus_> BluesKaj: on board
[18:44] <BluesKaj> deus_, that is probably a seperate issue , did your headset come with a cd /driver for windows ? If so you might find one for linux
[18:45] <deus_> BluesKaj: I'm quite sure kubuntu recognizes my headset
[18:45] <deus_> at least its listed on the system under audio settings
[18:46] <deus_> BluesKaj: all I need to to CHANGE the audio output device from my sound card to my headset
[18:47] <deus_> Windows has a very easy option: sound input output devices->set audio device. I suppose there is something similar for kubuntu, isn't there?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> deus_ aplay -l , see if the headset is listed
[18:48] <deus_> When I look at the kmix mixer, I see 2 tabs: 1. my soundcard for my boxes, and 2. my usb headset. Also aplay -l perfectly displays both my sound card AND my headset
[18:50] <solifugus> Is kubuntu 9.04 very usable or bugy?
[18:52] <iulianpojar> you can install kde 4.2 in kubuntu 8.10 , and its very stable
[18:53] <BluesKaj> deus_, try this , altho you may need run the command each time you decide to change audio setups: asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[18:54] <BluesKaj> deus_, for your USB set up use the name given in the aplay-l listing and the same goes for your onboard when you want to change back
[18:56] <deus_> BluesKaj: well at least the sound is now coming from my headset. You wonder whether ubuntu still lives in the middle ages. why can't you just select this in a menu?
[18:59] <deus_> BluesKaj: problem is not yet completely resolved. When I say something, the microphone records this and I can hear my voice on my headphones: not convenient. Furthermore the program teamspeak still thinks there is no headset
[18:59] <BluesKaj> deus_, dunno, there maybe a GUI setup for exactly that, but not using USB for sound I haven't relly looked into it ...try google linux or USB sound in adept search and see what comes up .
[19:07] <leon__> hey all, how come gparted sees NOTHING on a disk with Linux partitions on it?
[19:07] <leon__> i know they're there cos i'm running off them now!
[19:08] <DasKreech> leon__: Maybe it's locked? I always run Gparted from a Live Cd
[19:12] <mandy> como les va
[19:12] <DasKreech> !es
[19:12] <mandy> hi
[19:12] <mandy> how are you
[19:13] <mandy> hi robinr
[19:13] <skole> I need some help. I'm currently in madagascar installing kubuntu on PCs in schools here. But the machiens don't have internett. I need to download a package (libdvdcss) with all its dependencies and put them on a CD. What to do?
[19:13] <DasKreech> Hi
[19:13] <DasKreech> skole: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:13] <fosco__> skole, go to pakcages.ubuntu.com and dowload the package and all its dependencies
[19:15] <DasKreech> skole: Once you have them you can put them in the directory /var/cache/apt/archives and then apt-get install them
[19:15] <DasKreech> skole: You may want to look into setting up a local repo
[19:15] <mandy> espak spanish?
[19:15] <DasKreech> !es | mandy
[19:15] <skole> ok I try
[19:16] <mandy> i need help
[19:16] <jamesjedimaster> mandy> i suggest you to clear your questions at #ubuntu-mx or kubuntu-es
[19:16] <martijn81> !ask
[19:16] <jamesjedimaster> i'm on that channles too
[19:17] <mandy> please wait a moment
[19:17] <palaiokwstas> on fstab i mount an ntfs partition with umask=0022, but mount lists the partition as rw
[19:17] <palaiokwstas> although, i cannot write
[19:17] <palaiokwstas> is just a bug in mount? or i am wrong?
[19:18] <palaiokwstas> (is 0022 = ro) ?
[19:18] <skole> A serach returns no packages found. The package in question is libdvdcss2
[19:19] <jamesjedimaster> palaiokwstas> do you have the module kernel to write on ntfs?
[19:19] <mandy> i need help witk pidgin
[19:19] <mandy> with
[19:20] <palaiokwstas> jamesjedimaster: well, i also have mounted another ntfs with umask=007 and am able to write
[19:20] <DasKreech> mandy: What do you need ?
[19:21] <DasKreech> Does ntfs care about umaske?
[19:21] <DasKreech> skole: It's not on the normal repos
[19:21] <DasKreech> !dvd > skole
[19:22] <palaiokwstas> DasKreech: 007 - i can write, 0022 i cannot, i suppose it cares. although, when i type mount i see in both partitions "rw"
[19:23] <jamesjedimaster> palaiokwstas: did you install ntfs-config?
[19:23] <cj__> so i'm having a hard time getting icons on my desktop. it always comes out as a black dot. how do i fix this?
[19:24] <jamesjedimaster> palaiokwstas: open ntfs config tool in Applications>System Tools and enable read/write support for internal volumes.
[19:24] <palaiokwstas> thank you jamesjedimaster, ill try
[19:27] <jamesjedimaster> palaiokwstas: another thing: 022 only the owner can write on ntfs
[19:27] <DasKreech> cj__: Which KDE ?
[19:27] <mandy> alguien me puede ayudar con pidgin?
[19:27] <DasKreech> mandy: escribo /join #ubuntu-es
[19:28] <jamesjedimaster> mandy> post your question or post it in spanish at #ubuntu-es
[19:29] <DasKreech> ok I think mandy is ok now
[19:29] <DasKreech> cj__: open Konqueror and go help -> about KDE
[19:30] <cj__> 4.2
[19:30] <DasKreech> Ok
[19:30] <DasKreech> What do you want on the Desktop ?
[19:31] <cj__> firefox or what ever shortcut i might need
[19:31] <DasKreech> Ok Do you have files in the Desktop Directory you want? or you would just like those launchers ?
[19:32] <cj__> just the launchers
[19:32] <DasKreech> Ok one second let me try something
[19:33] <cj__> I've been using ubuntu 8.04 for the last year and I'm trying to learn this to swap them out
[19:34] <DasKreech> Hmm I know how I do it but there should be an easier way ...
[19:35] <noren> hi all
[19:35] <DasKreech> hi noren
[19:36] <DasKreech> cj__: ok Looks like a .desktop file works best
[19:36] <noren> DasKreech: in screen saver ssetting how can i add more screen saver  i am not getting that option
[19:36] <DasKreech> noren: Don't know if that option is there. I think screensavers aren't installed by default look for the screensavers package
[19:37] <skole> How can I download libdvdcss2 and all its dependencies and sub-dependencies?
[19:37] <DasKreech> cj__: I can just drag the Firefox executabe there but then I don't get a pretty firefox icon
[19:37] <DasKreech> !dvd
[19:37] <noren> skole: apt get install
[19:37] <DasKreech> skole: ^^^^
[19:38] <cj__> so it sounds like I may just have to leave it where it is or do the .desktop file
[19:38] <skole> But I need to put all those packages on a CD. Im going to install all of this on computers in africa without internet
[19:39] <DasKreech> cj__: can you try something for me?
[19:39] <DasKreech> You have kickoff?
[19:39] <cj__> sure
[19:39] <DasKreech> the default KDE 4 menu?
[19:39] <cj__> not sure
[19:39] <DasKreech> Withthe tabs and the search bar at the top
[19:40] <cj__> i believe so. It looks like you described
[19:41] <noren> DasKreech: if i could increase my web surfing speed in konqueror ??
[19:41] <DasKreech> cj__: drag somethign from ther to the desktop
[19:42] <DasKreech> noren: ha ha Similar discussion going on in #kubuntu-devel if you want to join it
[19:42] <cj__> all it does is leave the little black dot. I can resize it or x it out but thats it. I cant use it to connect
[19:43] <noren> lemme check
[19:47] <jonah> Daskreech2, ok cool so i don't have to add any repos if i install fresh now, i can just tick the extras in software sources and bang, kde 4.2!!??
[19:49] <DasKreech> cj__: Hmm ok
[19:49] <DasKreech> alt+F2 -> dolphin /usr/bin
[19:51] <DasKreech> cj__: actaully
[19:51] <DasKreech> You get a black dot?
[19:51] <DasKreech> What happens when you resize it?
[19:52] <noren> DasKreech: no    help thre
[19:53] <DasKreech> ah well I don't know of any personal tips to get it faster
[19:53] <DasKreech> Webkit should help but that's still buggy
[19:53] <DasKreech> maybe try !opera  ?
[19:53] <slow-motion> hi
[19:53] <cj__> when I resize it the black dot just gets bigger. Doesnt change outside that though
[19:54] <DasKreech> cj__: Werid
[19:54] <DasKreech> I get a button with icon and everythign
[19:55] <cj__> I'm reading the basics right now. I think I'm on a good track to figuring this thing out.
[19:55] <DasKreech> cj__: try remove the launcher add it back
[19:56] <cj__> you mean delete the black dot and do it again? I've done that a number of times with the same result
[19:56] <DasKreech> cj__: No delete the Appication menu
[19:56] <cj__> oic. Like delete firefox and reinstall it?
[19:57] <DasKreech> cj__: No
[19:57] <DasKreech> Ha ha ok lets try this a simpler way
[19:57] <DasKreech> right click and create a new panel
[19:57] <cj__> sorry man. still new to this
[19:57] <DasKreech> right click on the panel and add widgets
[19:57] <DasKreech> filter for lance
[19:57] <DasKreech> add the lancelot menu
[19:58] <DasKreech> let me know when you have done tat
[19:58] <DasKreech> that
[20:01] <cj__> ok. I opened the new panel then went to add widgets but its not showing a lancelot menu when i search for it
[20:01] <DasKreech> hmm
[20:01] <DasKreech> ok
[20:02] <cj__> i do have some application launchers. would that help?
[20:02] <yokto> Hi i've tried updateing to kde 4.2 from the ppa experimental repo. but it doesn't work because there are important packages missing for instance kdebase-runtime. or did i miss some thing?
[20:02] <DasKreech> cj__: Sure.. the first one
[20:02] <DasKreech> yokto: no just try installing that one by itself
[20:03] <DasKreech> yokto: Or do a dist-upgrade instead of a normal upgrade
[20:03] <deus_> BluesKaj: thnx for your help with the usb headset
[20:03] <DasKreech> cj__: try pulling from that one instead
[20:03] <deus_> still not fixed, but a bit closer to what I want
[20:03] <DasKreech> cj__: You should have a lancelot though I wonder if yo uhave 4.2 widgets
[20:04] <cj__> i'll see if there are any updates i'm missing. its the only thing I can think of. I'm going to go through the tutorial
[20:04] <yokto> yea i tried that of course but the problem is aptitude doesn't find a >=kdebase-runtime-4.1.96 there is only 4.1.4
[20:04] <cj__> thanks for your help
[20:05] <DasKreech> yokto: woah That's a problem :) you did sudo apt-get update of course?
[20:05] <yokto> yes
[20:06] <yokto> i looked through the package list manually and i couldn't find it either
[20:06] <skole> Is it possible to list up all the packages a package needs to run (dependencies) with all the sub-dependencies?
[20:07] <DasKreech> skole: yes
[20:07] <DasKreech> yokto: let me see your sources.list
[20:07] <DasKreech> skole: apt-cache depends <package>
[20:07] <yokto> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep ppa
[20:07] <yokto> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[20:07] <DasKreech> skole: man apt-cache it should be useful
[20:08] <DasKreech> yokto: you can just grep ppa /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[20:08] <yokto> yes true
[20:09] <DasKreech> apt-cache policy kdebase-runtime
[20:10] <DasKreech> Which repo is it coming from ?
[20:10] <yokto> perhaps it helps when i say that i use 64 bit
[20:10] <yokto> amd64
[20:10] <mandy> hi i need help with kopete
[20:11] <yokto> yes it doesn't show up but kmail 4.2 shows up if i do the same thing with kmail
[20:11] <DasKreech> mandy: hi :)
[20:12] <DasKreech> yokto: Umm try enabling backports on the sources and see what that does
[20:13] <giarca> Ubufox is useful or not? (Ubuntu Firefox extension)
[20:13] <DasKreech> giarca: On Kubuntu? no
[20:14] <giarca> yes
[20:14] <giarca> DasKreech: I love that no
[20:14] <giarca> go erase
[20:14] <DasKreech> If you have Gnome installed on Ubuntu and you use firefox it's useful
[20:14] <yokto> I think it's just not there lock for your self
[20:14] <yokto> wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[20:14] <DasKreech> other than that it's not
[20:14] <yokto> grep "Package: kdebase-runtime" Packages
[20:15] <DasKreech> yokto: Ok can you jump to #kubuntu-devel and inform them?
[20:15] <yokto> ok
[20:26] <yokto> ok you where right they said it's in the backports
[20:26] <yokto> how do i activate that?
[20:29] <DasKreech> open adept click on sources  -> Edit Software sources -> updates -> backports
[20:32] <yokto> its not there there s only important security, recommended, pre-released, unsupported
[20:32] <DasKreech> Hmm hold on :)
[20:34] <DasKreech> !backports
[20:35] <DasKreech> yokto: it's unsupported updates
[20:37] <yokto> ok now i works thank you very much
[20:39] <DasKreech> yokto: Cool
[20:41] <sinep> Hey.
[20:41] <DasKreech> !hi | sinep
[20:42] <sinep> I am having a problem with Amarok 2.0.1.
[20:42] <DasKreech> ok
[20:42] <sinep> I do not know what name Amarok's GUI has for its elements, but they are not displaying at all.
[20:43] <sinep> The three columns are not there at all.
[20:43] <DasKreech> three coloumns?
[20:44] <sinep> Collection(and some other options)\Trac Information\Playlist
[20:44] <sinep> The play bar at the top is the only visible element
[20:44] <DasKreech> sinep: Ah I'm totally out of Amarok mind space right now
[20:44] <DasKreech> Maybe ask in #amarok ?
[20:45] <sinep> Ah, ok. Thanks. ^_^
[20:45] <sinep> When I figure it out, I will let you know in case this isn't an individual case.
[20:45] <sinep> Bye
[20:46] <sinep> Hey.
[20:46] <DasKreech> Yes?
[20:46] <sinep> Ach, Konversation. :p
[20:46] <sinep> Sorry
[20:49] <noren> bye guys
[20:50] <sinep> #amarok appears dead. I guess I will go back to google. :) Later.
[20:51] <noren> sinep: what is the prob i am using amarok
[21:05] <glow_wolf> How ddo you setup a 56k dialup account in 8.10 with out a internet connection
[21:06] <anup> hhi anybody  here 2 be my friend
[21:06] <DasKreech> !ppp
[21:06] <DasKreech> !ot | anup
[21:06] <anup> i'm a    completely new  user 2 linux
[21:07] <DasKreech> anup: Welcome to Kubuntu and Linux!
[21:07] <lcampagn> I can't install kubuntu-desktop in 8.10 (using ppa repos):  "phonon-backend-xine: Conflicts: kde-icons-oxygen (< 4:4.1.73) but 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 is to be installed"
[21:07] <lcampagn> Anybody else seeing this?
[21:08] <StR|Sangreal> pls where are the wallpaper files downloaded from kde-look stored by default?
[21:09] <DasKreech> ~/.kde/share/wallpapers
[21:12] <AimoParru> lcampagn: You should enable Unsupported updates
[21:12] <AimoParru> Edit software sources -> Updates -> Unsupported sources
[21:13] <AimoParru> Edit software sources -> Updates -> Unsupported updates
[21:13] <lcampagn> HM! What's that look like in apt/sources.list?
[21:13] <lcampagn> It's a pretty bare system right now
[21:14] <lcampagn> I've got the PPA repo and deb http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
[21:15] <AimoParru> hmm. good question
[21:15] <lcampagn> ..maybe intrepid-updates? I'll try that.
[21:16] <AimoParru> backports i thinks
[21:16] <AimoParru> backports i think
[21:16] <AimoParru> deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports restricted main multiverse universe
[21:17] <slow-motion> n8
[21:18] <lcampagn> cool, backports seems to have fixed it. Thanks very much!
[21:18] <AimoParru> You're welcome
[21:19] <lcampagn> Seems like that would be useful to have on the kubuntu announcement for KDE4.2? Unless I'm just blind and it's already there..
[21:25] <chairman> can i sync my blackberry curve 8330 on kubuntu
[21:27] <ubuntu__> Hola!!
[21:28] <ubuntu__> Alguiien que hable español?
[21:28] <DasKreech> !es
[21:29] <woozle> Is printing supposed to be working in ku9 Alpha 4? Or is that still in progress?
[21:33] <anup> how dod iknow my KDE version
[21:33] <anup> please tell me
[21:34] <lcampagn> In almost any KDE application, you can look under Help -> About KDE
[21:34] <wrinkliez> i wish theyd get rid of the dragon :/
[21:35] <DasKreech> lca
[21:35] <musical> hi folks!
[21:35] <AimoParru> lcampagn: Did you mean the backports thing by announcement?
[21:36] <cuznt> "Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain
[21:36] <musical> a question: Im using kubuntu 8.1, Dolphin and Konqueror have suddenly slowed to a crawl! Thunar works normally. Any ideas?
[21:41] <compilerwriter> I seem to have a perpetually minimized window showing in my destop switcher any ideas on how to bring it forward so that I can close it.  Restarting X doesn't seem to work.
[21:41] <enhazed> hello
[21:42] <enhazed> could someone help me with configuring internet connection sharing from ubuntu 8.10 to win xp via wlan? Thank you...
[21:43] <enhazed> couldn't find anything that works via google so this is my last resort :)
[21:49] <musical> enhazed: are you using DSL ?
[21:49] <enhazed> no, net comes in through lan
[21:50] <musical> well a small switch would allow you to add on as many computers as the switch has ports
[21:50] <musical> lan to switch - switch to other puters
[21:52] <tutti_> hello everybody
[21:52] <musical> if you get your ip adresses via DHCP, its even easier
[21:52] <Jampiter> This image shows more than one pack in KDE Wallpaper http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/KDE_4.png . Are these available on the internet?
[21:52] <Jampiter> I do not have them
[21:53] <musical> hope this helps, enhazed
[21:53] <enhazed> well, i'll try to read up on some more documentation and if it doesn't work i'll be back with questions, i guess. thanks :)
[21:54] <musical> np
[21:55] <musical> Im experiencing a problem. Im using kubuntu 8.1. Dolphin and/or Konqueror have suddenly slowed to a crawl! Thunar works normally. Any ideas?
[22:11] <julio> boa tarde
[22:13] <wildbat> ^^/
[22:15] <Jampiter> This image shows more than one pack in KDE Wallpaper http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/KDE_4.png . Are these available on the internet?
[22:17] <julio> estou configurando o KNetworkManager e não estou encontrando Configure Dial-Up Connections...'.
[22:17] <julio> alguem pode me ajudar
[22:19] <jussi01> julio: english only please
[22:19] <jussi01> !pt
[22:19] <jussi01> !es
[22:19] <jussi01> (can never make out the difference...)
[22:20] <maco> jussi01: see that a with a ~ on top? those dont happen in spanish
[22:20] <julio> sorry, idont speak english
[22:21] <maco> jussi01: only n's get that (ñ) so if you see it on any other letter, it's portuguese
[22:21] <jussi01> maco: ahh, thnnks :)
[22:21] <jussi01> !pt | julio
[22:21] <julio> obrigado
[22:22] <maco> i assume obrigado = arigatou
[22:22] <javitunes> hey noob here
[22:22] <javitunes> how this work?????
[22:22] <maco> you ask questions, people who can answer and are at their computers do so
[22:22] <maco> when you get good at it, you become an answer-giver
[22:23] <javitunes> thx for the first answers
[22:24] <javitunes> can i install cod 2 on kubuntu?
[22:38] <yao_ziyuan> can anyone with kde3 help me comple and make a deb package for qtcuve/kde3 at http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40492 ?
[22:39] <StR|Sangreal> pls what do i need to enable google gadgets in plasma?
[22:46] <v6lur> hi. when trying to send a note to another kubuntu machine on lan, knotes says: "Communication error: connection actively refused"
[22:46] <v6lur> how can i send the note?
[22:52] <v6lur> (kubuntu 8.04, kde 3.5.10)
[22:59] <yao_ziyuan> is anyone using kde3?
[23:00] <drbobb> sure.
[23:00] <yao_ziyuan> drbobb: can you help me compile a kde3 style?
[23:00] <drbobb> never done that.
[23:01] <yao_ziyuan> drbobb: i can teach you step by step
[23:01] <drbobb> so why ask me for help?
[23:02] <StR|Sangreal> !flood | drbobb
[23:02] <drbobb> huh?
[23:02] <StR|Sangreal> oh sry, wrong window
[23:03] <StR|Sangreal> pls accept my apology
[23:04] <yao_ziyuan> drbobb: because i can't install kde3 dev packages
[23:04] <drbobb> why can't you?
[23:05] <yao_ziyuan> drbobb: i'm in kubuntu 8.10 and it no longer provides kde3/qt3 dev packages
[23:05] <yao_ziyuan> which are required to compile kde3/qt3 apps
[23:06] <Guest95789> hi, i have a problem installing opera, can somebody help me please,look, thanks http://pastebin.com/d269ca40e
[23:06] <drbobb> so install 8.04 in virtualbox (for instance)
[23:07] <xain> Hello everyone.
[23:07] <claydoh> yao_ziyuan: not true, I compile kmymoney2 (kde3 app) in 8.10
[23:07] <yao_ziyuan> claydoh: how did you install kde3 dev packages?
[23:07] <xain> Is it possible to increase the performance of the Intel 945gma chipset?
[23:08] <yao_ziyuan> drbobb: ok if you don't help me...
[23:08] <drbobb> sorry but the time i have to spare isn't so excessive
[23:09] <HappySmileMan> Anyone know of any ways to reduce RAM usage on Kubuntu, like any unnecessary services or something... I have 512MB RAM and am pretty much constantly using like 4-500MB of swap, it gets incredibly slow to use my comp with Firefox
[23:09] <Guest95789> hi, i have a problem installing opera, can somebody help me please,look, thanks http://pastebin.com/d269ca40e
[23:09] <claydoh> yao_ziyuan: the main package is kdelibs4-dev don't  let the '4' fool  you
[23:10] <zer0o> any idea how to get rid of wga on vista?
[23:10] <zer0o> sorry, that was offtopic...
[23:10] <zer0o> indeed...
[23:10] <yao_ziyuan> claydoh: i realized something else so i close this topic now
[23:18] <drbobb> HappySmileMan: get some more RAM for your box, you'll be glad you did
[23:35] <olskolirc> hey can anyone tell me how I can go back to my kubuntu boot up splash stuff?  I'm stuck with this mythbuntu when i boot down and boot up.  I uninstalled mythbuntu-desktop but its still in the sessions menu.  I'm on Intrepid
[23:43] <boboso> does anyone know of any data recovery software that works well?
[23:46] <PSiL0> !kubuntu | zer0o
[23:46] <PSiL0> there's the fix for vista wga ^^
[23:47] <olskolirc> how do i go back to my kubuntu boot up splashes
[23:47] <wildbat> boboso: easy recovery ? ;p
[23:49] <PSiL0> olskolirc: alt-f2->"login manager"->(4)Themes
[23:49] <olskolirc> what is the (4)
[23:49] <olskolirc> PSiL0,
[23:50] <olskolirc> got it thanks PSiL0
[23:51] <olskolirc> no not that screen PSiL0 I'm talking about the one that makes you wait while the meter boots over - its stuck on mythbuntu how do i get it back to Kubuntu
[23:52] <PSiL0> olskolirc: Oh, that.... hmm, good question.. I don't know the answer to that one..
[23:53] <olskolirc> how do I take the mythbuntu out of my selected sessions at the login screen PSiL0 ?  I uninstalled mythbuntu-desktop and even the entry is still there
[23:54] <PSiL0> olskolirc: Since I never used mythbuntu, I cannot say that I can be any of help, sorry..
[23:56] <oliver__> .
[23:58] <StR|Sangreal> pls where are downloaded wallpapers located by default?
[23:59] <olskolirc> /usr/share/wallpaper StR|Sangreal