[01:40] hi [01:40] i have some strange behaviour in malone [01:40] bug 332960 is a duplicate of bug 333110 [01:40] Bug 332960 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/332960 is private [01:40] Launchpad bug 333110 in usb-creator "stupid illegible "Installation Failed" dialog box" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/333110 [01:40] but this is not shown on the page of bug 333110 [01:41] poolie: Can you see 332960? [01:41] yes [01:41] hm [01:41] and the web site says it's public [01:43] Ermmm. [01:44] Bug 332960 [01:44] Bug 332960 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/332960 is private [01:45] I can wget +text fine... [01:49] bug 333988 got fixed but hasn't been pushed yet [01:49] Launchpad bug 333988 in launchpad-bazaar "Duplicate Projects Listed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/333988 [01:49] wrong chan, sorry [01:49] MTecknology: right [01:49] ah [01:49] poolie: i don't see any evidence that bug 332960 is a duplicate of bug 333110 [01:49] I meant to put that in that ^ channel [01:49] Bug 332960 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/332960 is private [01:49] Launchpad bug 333110 in usb-creator "stupid illegible "Installation Failed" dialog box" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/333110 [01:50] 332960 is a dup of 331327 though [01:50] ah [01:51] wow, in place title editing! [01:51] mwhudson: It gets confusing - http://www.petaimg.com/uploads/1235610957.png [01:52] MTecknology: "invalid" [01:53] ok i see [01:53] so the problem here is that 332960 is public, but it's a dupe of a private bug [01:54] that being bug 331327 [01:54] Bug 331327 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/331327 is private [02:01] mwhudson: anyhow i filed bug 334130 [02:01] Launchpad bug 334130 in malone "misbehaviour in marking duplicates of a private bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334130 [02:01] ok === fjlacoste is now known as flacoste === Ursinha is now known as bananinha [02:40] spm: how annoying am I getting? [02:41] MTecknology: you need to work much harder at being annoying ;-) [02:41] really!? [02:41] MTecknology: I think I've just finished all the stuff you wanted in 62115 btw [02:43] thanks for taking care of all that junk for me :) [02:44] MTecknology: I've had to support windows users in the past. trust me, you aren't a patch on them for sheer irritation/annoyance/wish-that-murder-wasn't-illegal factor. :-) [02:44] np! [02:44] lol! [02:45] ({)spm [02:47] MTecknology: "({)" ? am not familiar with that one, and feeling too full from lunch/pizza to chase down :-) [02:48] spm: emiticon(MSN) - hug [02:49] I thought that was rather ironic, actually. [02:49] ahhh. thank you! :-) === bananinha is now known as Ursinha [02:49] wgrant: I know, it felt funny === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk [03:39] cprov: i haven't tried the copy API, and i'm not having problems with the UI. but the wording of the API is kindof weird and not what i was expecting [03:39] in particular it reads as if it will always copy the source, but the ui will not let me copy the source in a such a way [03:40] MFen: copySource() ? [03:40] yeah [03:41] MFen: err, sorry, it's called syncSource() [03:41] right [03:43] MFen: API will fail on source-only (rebuild) copies in the same way API does. [03:44] in the same way WEB UI does, actually === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [03:49] cprov: ok, so source AND binary copies are ok? [03:49] i usually do binary copies without source [03:50] MFen: source-only (rebuilds) are also OK between different archives. [03:50] MFen: bin-only copies are not possible [03:50] MFen: you have to carry the source reference across suites and archives. [03:51] in the ui i just check the binary package to copy and say copy [03:52] what does the bomb icon mean? http://ppa.launchpad.net/medigeek/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/b/ [03:53] savvas: its apaches default icon for a 'core file', which its mistakenly identifying that file as [03:54] lifeless: I think I removed that source file, I thought it meant a crash or something - thanks for the tip :) [03:55] it means apache has identified you as a terrorist === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [03:57] that's right - fear me! heh :) [04:19] Hi, I know I had a launchpad account, because I ordered Ubuntu CDs with it, however, I'm no longer sure which e-mail I used, and are they case-sensitive? [04:29] iShock: emails are not case-sensitive - I think is the question you're asking. ??? [04:29] Partially, but I remembered the e-mail [05:11] hi, anyone knows why launchpad support Other/Proprietary in type license? [05:12] ovnicraft: launchpad offers commercial hosting for proprietary projects [05:13] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/208 [05:14] poolie, yes i am reading now.. thx === stub1 is now known as stub [07:12] Did anyone ever think about a feature to keep track of a users max karma? [07:13] so if they work hard for a year, then walk away for a year, it's not magically gone [07:13] or should that be a feature request? [07:15] hi barry maybe you know - I asked this right before you came in [07:15] Did anyone ever think about a feature to keep track of a users max karma? [07:16] JanC: what's with the constant join/part? [07:19] MTecknology: you mean somehow show that a user had a lot of karma before, even though he hasn't much now? [07:19] BjornT: ya [07:22] MTecknology: that's a nice idea, but i suspect it's quite hard to actually do due to karma normalization. for example, i once had millions of karma points; something that is probably impossible to get today. [07:23] oh [07:24] BjornT: it just sucks that a year after being inactive, you get 0 [07:27] BjornT: I had an awesome idea..... but it would probably take a while to impliment, that max would be easy [07:27] a graph - the way stocks are done [07:28] MTecknology: yeah, that's true. i guess bug 287625 is more or less what you want. [07:28] Launchpad bug 287625 in launchpad-registry "feature request: karma timeline / chart" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287625 [07:33] heh - brainstorm.u.c uses drupal too? wow [07:40] BjornT: I added a solution to that - that was exactly what I meant :) === BjornT changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: BjornT | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === mpt__ is now known as mpt [11:26] hi [11:26] what do I have to do to be able to push to my bzr branch from another PC? [11:27] I used bzr launchpad-login , but I get an error when trying to push [11:27] process_config_line: Unimplemented opcode 2 [11:27] bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required) [11:33] KIAaze: do you have uploaded the public ssh key for this other pc? [12:04] KIAaze: post at www.pastebin.com the output of this command: ssh -v yourusername@bazaar.launchpad.net (where yourusername is your launchpad username) [12:06] KIAaze: or don't, for privacy reasons :) === sale_ is now known as sale === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:17] no, I haven't uploaded the public ssh key yet [12:17] it's been a long time since I set up my launchpad account [12:17] forgot how to do it. But I'll google [12:19] KIAaze, https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editsshkeys [12:19] thx [12:22] if I already have a id_rsa.pub for another server, can I use it for launchpad too? [12:22] or is this unsafe? [12:24] KIAaze, it's perfectly safe to use your ssh key in as many places as you like [12:25] ok, thx [12:25] beuno: You mean the public key, I hope. [12:25] wgrant, of course I do :) [12:25] It wasn't entirely obvious, and it's a really bad thing to be ambiguous about. [12:26] sure, paranoia es healthy to some extent === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [12:39] is there also a way to change the names of public keys for security reasons? [12:39] instead of user@host [12:40] KIAaze, you can just edit the key file [12:40] that's determined by how your key is generated, but I'm willing to bet it is purely descriptive [12:41] what kiko said [12:46] mmh, still not working [12:46] process_config_line: Unimplemented opcode 2 [12:46] bzr: broken pipe [12:50] redid bzr launchpad-login and now I get the same error message again: [12:50] process_config_line: Unimplemented opcode 2 [12:50] bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required) [12:50] where is -Dhpss supposed to be used? [12:52] could it have something to do with the real name linked to the user@host in "bzr whoami"? [12:57] process_config_line: Unimplemented opcode 2 [12:57] bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required) [12:57] HPSS calls: 1 [12:57] KIAaze, so are you doing: bzr launchpad-login YOURLAUNCHPADUSERNAME? [12:58] yes [12:58] ok, can you try doing: ssh username@bazaar.launchpad.net [12:59] ssh worked [13:00] hrm [13:01] try adding to ~/.ssh/config [13:01] Host bazaar.launchpad.net [13:01] User yourusername [13:01] those two lines [13:04] KIAaze: Also, could be a good idea to put in your "~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf": [13:04] [DEFAULT] [13:04] launchpad_username = juanje [13:04] well [13:04] your username [13:05] launchpada username [13:05] :-P [13:06] still not working :( [13:06] bazaar.conf already contained my username [13:06] :-/ [13:06] I can't even use bzr branch [13:06] same error message [13:07] KIAaze: coud you pastebin the output of where you get the Unimplemeneted opcode, but with -Derror -Dhpss added to t ecommandline? [13:07] hummm [13:07] KIAaze: ie, bzr -Derror -Dhpss branch foo [13:08] KIAaze: a simple "bzr branch lp:something" doesn't work? [13:08] no === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:08] it worked before I used launchpad-login [13:09] http://pastebin.com/m2a0fdbf8 [13:09] right, that makes sense [13:09] KIAaze: and if you try with: bzr branch bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/PATHTOTHEBRANCH ? [13:10] KIAaze: so before the login was working and now not.... interesting... [13:10] well, yes, anonymous checkout worked basically [13:10] juanje: before login it uses http, not ssh [13:11] LarstiQ: that's true [13:12] KIAaze: the proces_config_line seems to come from OpenSSH [13:12] but I got somtimes problem with lp:foo and then http:// or bzr+ssh:// did work [13:12] KIAaze: do you have a non-standard openssh config? [13:12] possible [13:12] I'm not sure [13:13] I'm on openSUSE 10.3 [13:14] [3][~]$ ssh -v [13:14] OpenSSH_5.1p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007 [13:14] KIAaze: this is kind a random thought but... are you on your ~/.ssh directory? (seems so at the pastebin) could be the problem the pemissions there? (probably not, but...) [13:14] that's when I posted on the pastebin [13:15] I tried in a normal directory before, but thought that maybe using the same terminal would change something [13:16] is the data displayed on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+builds accessible from the LP API? I see in the API doc that there are "build" object with the data I'm interested in, but I'm still looking how to get there [13:17] bigjools, cprov, ^ [13:18] geser, yeah, it should be since last week [13:19] geser: it's not exposed in the API in the same way it's in the way the UI yet, i.e you can't get builds for Ubuntu or Jaunty. [13:19] it worked [13:19] yes, there was something wrong with the ssh binary [13:20] MTecknology: flaky ADSL connection :-( [13:20] geser: you have to get the ubuntu primary archive, select a source publication and then call getBuilds() on it. === JanC_ is now known as JanC [13:22] cprov: thanks, I'll try it out. I'm trying to get http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ use the LP API instead of screen scraping [13:24] geser: I see, It won't be sane before we export something like 'jaunty.getBuildRecords(status=FAILED)' [13:24] cprov: do I understand the docs correctly that I can with archive.getPublishedSources(disto_series = "jaunty" (or the object for it), status = "published") get a list of published sources for jaunty? [13:25] geser: yup, that's correct and huge ;) [13:25] and then iterate over this list to get the build records [13:25] hmm, I guess the screen scraping is probably faster than going through the LP API [13:26] KIAaze: how did you fix it? [13:27] geser: right, that's my impression, too :( But we could export the bits you need very quickly (this week) in edge for you. [13:27] I installed ssh from source without X forwarding [13:27] kiko: hi. do you have a minute to talk about our (for Guadalinex) distro request? [13:27] so I just replaced the binary with the old one I had backed up [13:27] cprov: thanks. Should I open a bug for it? [13:27] KIAaze: ah ok [13:28] but why would bzr require X forwarding? [13:28] KIAaze: it doesn't afaik [13:28] geser: yes, please, open a bug and we will find someone to get it done very soon for you. [13:28] KIAaze: but it would explain the unimplemented opcode [13:29] opcode=options code? [13:29] * LarstiQ wonders how to figure out what causes that. [13:29] KIAaze: no, more like an instruction [13:29] KIAaze: an opcode for a cpu would be "add two numbers together" [13:30] KIAaze: could you confirm you get the same error if you try to ssh manually and request X forwarding? [13:32] cprov: what's the right project to file bug for? [13:32] geser: soyuz [13:32] works: http://pastebin.com/d3a10ee4f [13:33] KIAaze: hmmm. [13:34] it was with the standard ssh of course [13:34] the one I compiled doesn't work with -X [13:34] since your modified binary doesn't include -X? [13:34] right === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [14:44] ok, managed to get an ssh without X11 and working bzr ;) [14:45] KIAaze: how does it differ from before? [14:45] it has the missing opcode [14:46] there was no disable-X11 option in configure, so I hacked the code myself [14:46] now I did it the right way [14:47] hah :) [14:47] KIAaze: still, it would be nice to find out what tries to use X forwarding in bzr so we can get rid of that dependency [14:48] it might be because it reads an ssh config file [14:48] the opcode stuff is in readconf.c from the openssh source package [14:49] eek, you can get that just by reading the config file? [14:49] there's a switch(opcode) statement [14:50] I think I just commented out the cases for forwardX11 last time (didn't have the modified source anymore) [14:50] this might have caused the opcode error if the ssh conf file contained a forwardX11= statement [14:51] ok === barry_ is now known as barry === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === Ursinha is now known as aham === aham is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as ra === ra is now known as Ursinha [16:08] JanC: that sucks [16:14] in case a launchpad bug is "won't fix", and other people came afterwards and really wish for it to be reconsidered and fixed, can I set it back to new? bug 273688 [16:14] Launchpad bug 273688 in loggerhead "loggerhead - doesn't detect new line" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/273688 [16:15] morning all.. is there a feed for blueprints ? [16:16] savvas, the meaning of "Won't Fix" depends on the project, so it would be better to ask the project's maintainer or QA team [16:17] mpt: you mean to ask on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad ? [16:21] savvas, oh, I thought you were referring to a bug in loggerhead, I didn't realize it was a bug in Launchpad itself. [16:22] savvas, as I said in the bug, the breaks the layout [16:22] so fixing it in the way proposed, isn't an option [16:23] beuno: ok, thanks - I was about to highlight your nick :) [16:23] savvas, I'll try to explain better why it breaks [16:23] in the bug [16:24] I'd be grateful :) === ursula is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as uia === uia is now known as Ursinha [17:14] BjornT, there's an unhappy indirect subscriber in bug 48860, maybe you could spare time to help him [17:14] Launchpad bug 48860 in malone ""Also notified" makes difficult to unsubscribe" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48860 [17:16] Launchpad is timing out on me: "(Error ID: OOPS-1152H2074)" [17:16] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1152H2074 [17:24] * javaJake realizes that the entire site is timing out, so he sits tight and waits for the storm to pass. [17:25] Nvm, just that bug :P [17:42] mpt: i'll see if i can help him [18:18] has anyone been complaining about update performance [18:18] for some bugs i've been seeing it take up to 40s to load a bug [18:19] somewhere in the range of 10s right now, that seems pretty slow [18:56] apw: is it better now? which bugs are you looking now. the one i tested took around 2 seconds to load. === BjornT changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [18:57] BjornT, yeah its looking much better now, 2s ish [19:06] on bug reports, what populates the "also notified" list? [19:18] I don't know if there is a policy on what to do here, but a user posted his launchpad login info in a bug comment [19:18] tgm4883, it's already on the mailing lists. [19:19] kiko, I don't follow, the login info or the policy? [19:19] the bug comment :) [19:19] ah [19:19] Is anyone else able to load this page? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/173890 [19:19] Ubuntu bug 173890 in flashplugin-nonfree "flashplugin-nonfree fails to install due to md5sum mismatch" [High,Fix released] [19:20] Oh, good, it's loading [19:20] It's just taking unbelievably long to do it [19:20] javaJake: works fine for me. what's the problem? [19:20] kiko, so it's being discused then? [19:20] tgm4883, no, it's just too late to do anything useful about it [19:21] intellectronica: slow loading times. Launchpad complained of timeouts earlier today [19:21] intellectronica: I may still get an error, give me another few seconds... [19:21] Yep, Timeout: "(Error ID: OOPS-1152F2268)" [19:21] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1152F2268 [19:21] javaJake: yeah, it's one of those ultra-popular bugs, and they do take a bit longer to render. should improve considerably after thursday's release - we've done some work on optimizing that this cycle [19:22] This is after trying to submit changes to that bug [19:22] javaJake: are you using edge or the normal server? i'll only be able to see the oops in a few minutes [19:22] intellectronica: normal server [19:22] intellectronica: it appears after ~20 seconds [19:23] I can wait :) [19:24] javaJake: right, so i can imagine that it times out a lot for you. everything will be much better after the release (or you can join our beta team and start using new versions before everyone else :) [19:24] I'll join the beta team! :P [19:24] I don't mind testing and bug reporting (that's why I'm here) [19:25] Is it a "commitment" or is it a simple checkbox? [19:25] javaJake: excellent! if you join the team now i can make sure you're accepted immediately so it would be ineresting to see if it improves for you [19:25] javaJake: i don't understand the question [19:26] Well, I don't want to be someone who joins in and then doesn't give anything back. [19:26] I forsee some lengths of time in which I won't be using Launchpad actively. [19:26] javaJake: no requirements from you, other than to report problems when you can [19:26] So as long as you don't mind members who are periodically idle... [19:26] OK, sounds good to me then :) [19:27] How do I join up? [19:27] https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-beta-testers ? [19:27] yep [19:28] OK [19:30] javaJake: ping me when you've requested to join [19:31] intellectronica: blast, join page timed out [19:31] jk, joined. ;) [19:31] javaJake: approved [19:31] try that bug page now, let's see if it works better for you [19:32] OK [19:34] Hmmmm... [19:34] Interesting. edge.launchpad.net will not allow me to edit the status, while stable allows me. This must be an upcoming change in permissions. [19:35] really?! i can't think of any relevant change. are you logged in? [19:35] Heh, no. I just realized that and switched to my IRC client to tell you. :> [19:35] :) [19:38] intellectronica: it works. All's well! [19:38] javaJake: great! [19:40] when a branch is linked to a bug, where do I change the status of it, like "fix available"? [19:41] One last thing I'd like to ask (as I read the beta-tester page one last time before closing) is: does my "real name" in my profile have to be a real name? Can it be my alias (Jacob Godserv) instead? [19:42] Profile page: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~fun2program8 [19:46] javaJake: we'd rather you used your real name, because we feel it contributes to the cultivation of a better community, but iirc that is no longer a requirement [19:48] OK, thanks. [19:49] https://code.launchpad.net/~adri2000/merge-o-matic/dev/+merge/572 there if you look at the linked bug reports, it says "fix available" but I'm unable to change it [19:49] and it seems it isn't shown (anymore) on the branch page itself and on the bug page [19:51] rockstar: maybe you know what's going on here? ^^^ [19:52] Adri2000, I see that linkage on bug page. [19:52] ...and on the branch page. [19:52] I do as well [19:52] but I don't see "fix available" [19:53] Adri2000, ah, I see. Yes, we removed the ability to change that. I think it should also be removed from the merge proposal page. [19:56] ok [19:59] Adri2000, don't you think Fix Available is rather redundant? "Here's a branch with the fix. Also, there is a fix available." :) [20:02] wasn't there also "best fix available" and others I don't remember? [20:02] Adri2000, yeah, but if you don't think you have the best fix, then why are you working on it. :) [20:03] Adri2000, we just need less things with their own status. Bugs have a status, branches have a status, bug-branch linkages don't need a status. [20:04] It can be deduced by looking at the bug and branch statuses (stati?) [20:05] yeah, actually I don't care that much, just wondered why it disappeared from some pages and I wasn't able to change it :) === Kilin is now known as kilin [21:06] can i make sub repos in code.l.n? [21:07] eg lp:~openoffice-pkgs/openoffice/subrepo/branch ? [21:07] since bzr won't let me do a partial branch checkout my repo will otherwise get very messy [21:08] calc: nope [21:08] what is a super project? [21:08] MTecknology: same thing as a project group, like launchpad.net/mysql [21:10] hmm you can put a / in the project name which halfway achieves what i want but it doesn't have a way hide detail of the projects [21:17] mwhudson: what changes with it? [21:17] MTecknology: i don't understand sorry [21:18] mwhudson: Metcalfe suggested I see if I can have ubuntu-drupal turned into a super project. [21:18] a super project/project group is a container for other projects [21:19] mwhudson: Is there anything I'd need to change to have ubuntu-drupal changed to a super project? [21:19] well, i don't think you can convert a project into a project group [21:19] you'd have to get a project group created, add your project to it [21:19] and then probably rename things around to suit [21:20] mwhudson: so rename ubuntu-drupal to ubuntu-drupal-releases, then have an ubuntu-drupal superproject created? [21:20] something like that [21:21] mwhudson: then the owner for the projects would become the super project? [21:22] MTecknology: not owner, in the edit details of the project there's a field where you can set the containing project group [21:23] oh [21:25] mwhudson: would it make more sense to have ubutnu-drupal the super project or create it as ubuntu-drupal-project? [21:25] I'm guessing the first? [21:25] i can' [21:25] t answer that for you [21:25] thanks [21:26] :) === mikrox is now known as mikro === ursula is now known as Ursinha === spm changed the topic of #launchpad to: Launchpad is going down from 00:00 UTC until 01:00 UTC for a code update |https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [22:47] mwhudson: LP's Loggerhead confuses me. [22:47] It is reporting unknown revisions (in a strange way), but checking out the branch over HTTP and running Loggerhead on it locally works perfectly. [22:48] wgrant: what branch [22:49] lifeless: lp:~wgrant/ivle/trunk-mirror [22:49] The merged revision in r1119 is the problem one. [22:49] It *was* a ghost, but it is clearly no longer, even on HTTP. [22:50] interesting [22:50] mwhudson: cache? [22:50] what is a ghost, ooi, google "bzr ghost" is remarkably uninformative :-/ [22:50] could, but shouldn't be [22:51] i guess if you fill a ghost without changing the tip loggerhead might not notice [22:51] Ah, loggerhead does internal caching? [22:51] (until it's next restarted anyway) [22:51] ... which is in an hour, I suppose. [22:52] yeah, it caches the merge sorted revision graph [22:52] Plus it'll have a changed tip in about a minute or two, I suppose. [22:52] I'll see if that fixes it. [22:53] let us know :) [22:53] wgrant: when did you fill the ghost? [22:53] maxb: a ghost is a revision not present in the repository [22:54] mwhudson: I'm not entirely sure, but at least an hour ago. [22:54] I'm not sure which upgrade would have caused the full remirror. [22:54] hm [22:55] .... but still somehow referenced within the repository? [22:55] loggerhead hasn't been restarted in a while i think [22:55] maxb: yes [22:55] The reason this branch had them is that it's a bzr-svn import. [22:55] maxb: they frequently showed up in conversions from arch, where people would convert the mainline but not every merged branch [22:55] Anything merged from a bzr branch into svn trunk becomes a ghost when you check out with bzr-svn again. [22:55] oh, indeed, bzr-sv [22:56] I wonder if I can convince my update cronjob to fetch-ghosts from all recently merged branches automatically... [22:57] Otherwise I have to do the fetch-ghosts, upgrade, upgrade dance. [23:19] mwhudson: Changing the tip fixed it. [23:19] Thanks mwhudson, lifeless. [23:38] wgrant: good, that means my mental model isn't completely broken :)( === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [23:39] wgrant: i guess you should file a bug, but i don't think it's tremendously important, feel free to argue otherwise [23:40] mwhudson: Will do. I do have to get it to do a full remirror to fix ghosts, don't I? [23:45] I uploaded a package 20 minutes ago, but still don't see it on the source package's overview page. Has upload processing already been turned off or am I experiencing a different problem? [23:46] wgrant: um, not sure [23:46] my experience with ghosts fits in here >< [23:46] i think bzr is fairly aggressive on filling them, but not sure [23:47] I don't think LP filled them when pulling, but it may have (and just loggerhead was out of date). [23:47] soren: most of the cron tasks are disabled in prep for the release in 10 mins - that could the issue you're experiencing? [23:47] spm: I believe so, yes. [23:47] spm: Thanks, I'll stop sitting around waiting for it to be picked up. [23:47] :) [23:47] soren: sorry! :-) [23:48] spm: Oh, don't be. It gives me an excellent reason to stop hacking and go to bed. [23:48] Good night. [23:48] lol! night! [23:49] Unfortunately, these days LP is often back quickly enough that it's not worth stopping hacking. [23:50] (although it's still inconvenient having it vanish in the middle of the working day on a release day...) [23:50] wgrant: I intend to run off before I have a chance to test that hypothesis. [23:50]