| jbuncher | apw: I tried booting one of the kernels and my wireless card is not recognized. I believe I need the file iwlwifi-3945.ucode to be installed in something like /lib/firmware/newkernel/ Is there something else I need to install, or should I just ln -s to one of my existing kernel firmware directories in /lib/firmare? | 00:07 |
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| apw | jbuncher, yes i would copy that in manually, i have nothing built there. thanks for your persistance | 00:07 |
| jbuncher | apw: No problem, I'm just glad that someone is looking into the bug :) I'll try rebooting again. | 00:09 |
| jbuncher | apw: I still can't seem to get my wireless card to be recognized in those kernels. | 00:20 |
| apw | jbuncher, getting anything in dmesg relating to it at all? | 00:21 |
| jbuncher | apw: I checked, didn't see anything obvious | 00:21 |
| apw | can you paste in a dmesg from one of them | 00:22 |
| apw | i will have to think about it tommorrow, am too tired to do think on it further today | 00:23 |
| jbuncher | apw: would that be /var/log/messages.0 for the previous boot? | 00:23 |
| apw | the version should be in the dmesg i think | 00:23 |
| jbuncher | apw: sorry, dmesg.0 | 00:23 |
| jbuncher | apw: I found a dmesg log, I'll attach it to the bug report. I need to be getting home too anyway. Thanks for your help though. | 00:24 |
| apw | will see what else we can come up with tommorrow | 00:24 |
| jbuncher | apw: Sounds good. The dmesg is attached to the bug now. Have a good night. | 00:32 |
| btm | should be importance: wishlist -- #205528 (needs-packaging) | 02:03 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 05:42 |
| maco | asac: you around? | 06:57 |
| maco | dholbach: hello? | 07:03 |
| dholbach | maco: hello? :) | 07:03 |
| maco | dholbach: are you on jaunty? | 07:05 |
| maco | best case is you have a computer other than the one you're using that's running jaunty | 07:06 |
| dholbach | yes | 07:06 |
| dholbach | what are you looking for? | 07:06 |
| maco | if you configure an interface in /etc/network/interfaces, does NM in jaunty remember to ignore that device? | 07:06 |
| maco | because NM on here is showing wireless networks when i have wlan1 configured in /etc/network/interfaces | 07:06 |
| dholbach | I hvae no idea | 07:06 |
| maco | well i dont think it's *supposed* to | 07:07 |
| maco | im just wondering if you can reproduce that behaviour | 07:07 |
| Laibsch | What is the best way to get a bug that I triaged up to the point of providing a verified debdiff against current Jaunty sources on the radar screen of the release managers? | 07:25 |
| Laibsch | Some team I should subscribe? | 07:25 |
| Laibsch | Some flag? | 07:26 |
| Laibsch | something else? | 07:26 |
| maco | what part of the archive? | 07:26 |
| maco | main or universe? | 07:26 |
| Laibsch | can be either | 07:26 |
| Laibsch | I mean, I triage both main and universe | 07:26 |
| Laibsch | So, eventually, I will need both | 07:26 |
| maco | ah ok | 07:27 |
| maco | well its ubuntu-main-sponsors | 07:27 |
| maco | (i meant for this package, but whatever) | 07:27 |
| maco | for main | 07:27 |
| maco | and ubuntu-universe-sponsors for universe | 07:27 |
| maco | just subscribe them to the bug | 07:27 |
| Laibsch | hm, OK | 07:27 |
| Laibsch | They deal with a lot of stuff, though | 07:27 |
| Laibsch | IIRC, I had a few things linger for weeks even after subscribing them | 07:27 |
| maco | it happens | 07:28 |
| Laibsch | This was not for Jaunty, granted, but a few weeks delay could invalidate the work I did, Jaunty is fast-moving and I'd have to rebase | 07:28 |
| Laibsch | Plus, it's not that many more weeks until release | 07:28 |
| Laibsch | I'll add those team to cc | 07:28 |
| Laibsch | If anybody else knows some other trick, let me know. Thanks maco | 07:29 |
| maco | well i suppose you could try to figure out how to poke them and hope they dont get annoyed at you... | 07:29 |
| maco | Laibsch: any chance you're running jaunty? | 07:29 |
| maco | (i'm trying to get someone to replicate this bug) | 07:29 |
| Laibsch | #? | 07:30 |
| maco | hasnt been posted yet. id like to be sure its not my usual encounter with heisenbugs | 07:30 |
| Laibsch | yes, I'm running jaunty | 07:31 |
| maco | the trouble is i have my wireless configured in /etc/network/interfaces. somehow, network manage still displays available networks for my wireless card. AFAIK, nm is supposed to ignore any manually-configured-in-the-interfaces-file interfaces | 07:31 |
| * maco digs out other laptop for comparison testing | 07:43 | |
| maco | it'll be *very* interesting if i manage to make a heisenbug migrate from one laptop to another | 07:43 |
| YoBoY | bug 334207 -> wishlist | 07:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 334207 in bash "Bash 4.0 in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334207 | 07:46 |
| maco | marked | 07:47 |
| YoBoY | good morning :) | 07:48 |
| Laibsch | maco: I'm very happy with my wifi on Jaunty, more than on Hardy initially and I'm not really willing to fiddle with that, sorry. | 07:51 |
| maco | ok | 07:51 |
| maco | i just tried on my other laptop and it doesnt reproduce there. now im wondering if NM is looking at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and going "2 wireless cards are listed, but i cant find one and the other is manually configred...meh, use it anyway" | 07:52 |
| maco | so im going to see if it still shows up when i remove the old wireless card from the config | 07:53 |
| Laibsch | maco: I think you're drifting towards a support request | 08:02 |
| Hobbsee | Laibsch: there's a mail that deals with this. let me find it | 08:02 |
| Hobbsee | Laibsch: oh, and we're on irc too, fwiw | 08:04 |
| Laibsch | ?? | 08:04 |
| Hobbsee | Laibsch: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-October/000508.html | 08:04 |
| Laibsch | you got me confused now | 08:04 |
| Laibsch | OK | 08:04 |
| Laibsch | Will read | 08:04 |
| Hobbsee | (i'm belatedly replying to your "how do I get my bug on the release managers watchlist?" question) | 08:05 |
| Laibsch | I see | 08:05 |
| Laibsch | Thanks | 08:05 |
| Hobbsee | however, the release managers don't automatically sponsor things, so ubuntu-*-sponsors is usually the queue to put it on (although they can if they wish) | 08:05 |
| Hobbsee | you're welcome | 08:05 |
| Laibsch | Exactly what I was looking for | 08:05 |
| maco | my hypothesis failed | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | maco: btw, we're on IRC - we're not too hard to poke | 08:13 |
| maco | Hobbsee: its more of knowing *who* to poke | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | maco: that's true. ~ubuntu-release &/or ~motu-release on launchpad's usually a good start ;) | 08:14 |
| maco | laserjock and scottk are the ones im totally sure of, and they like to stick to edubuntu and kubuntu respectively | 08:14 |
| maco | you said "we" though so i guess now you're on the list? | 08:15 |
| maco | ok so neither weird networkmanager junk i'm experiencing is linked to having 2 interfaces that are not present listed in my udev rules | 08:16 |
| maco | however, my other laptop exhibits neither of the bugs | 08:16 |
| maco | i really wish i could get a reproducible bug once in a while | 08:17 |
| Hobbsee | maco: i released one of the alphas for gutsy, and am still on that list, yes. | 08:20 |
| maco | by "now on that list" i meant i just put you on my mental list :P | 08:21 |
| Hobbsee | oh :) | 08:21 |
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| zinzin | hi, | 09:34 |
| maco | zinzin: well now that youve asked the first thing to do would be to search on launchpad | 09:34 |
| zinzin | maco: i did, but dont see such a report | 09:35 |
| maco | ok then file the bug | 09:35 |
| zinzin | ok, will put it here first, then file a bug later. lets see if anybody knows the problem | 09:36 |
| zinzin | i am using 8.10 on GPU i915 Intel. i got the problem when run glxgears, like "Failed to initialized GEM. Falling back to classic". Now OpenGL doesnt run anymore. Anybody knows this problem? | 09:36 |
| zinzin | it didnt happen with me before, so perhaps the recent update of xorg is the culprit?? | 09:36 |
| zinzin | i mean glxgears doesnt run anymore | 09:36 |
| maco | zinzin: run "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel" and paste hte Installed: line | 09:37 |
| zinzin | Installed: 2:2.4.1-1ubuntu10.3 | 09:38 |
| zinzin | maco: is there any way to fall back to older version, to see if that can fix my problem? | 09:38 |
| maco | ok, now wait and maybe someone else can say "yes i see it too, you're not crazy" and then you guys can file a bug with confirmation | 09:38 |
| maco | yes, you can install the older one with dpkg -i --force-downgrade | 09:39 |
| maco | have to find it though | 09:39 |
| zinzin | maco: then how to know which version to downgrade to? | 09:39 |
| zinzin | and how about other related packages? need to downgrade, too? | 09:39 |
| maco | might still have it in /var/cache/apt/archives | 09:39 |
| maco | maybe. i dont know what all it'd depend on, and im not using 8.10 | 09:40 |
| zinzin | maco: hmm, i find that in /var/cache/apt/archives only 1 package, that has exactly version i am using | 09:42 |
| zinzin | so it seems i never upgrade it in the first place (?) | 09:43 |
| maco | or you ahve it set to remove old versions automatically | 09:43 |
| zinzin | maco: i think i found the problem: the PAE kernel doesnt work with GEM | 10:05 |
| maco | oh ok | 10:06 |
| zinzin | so i have to turn off PAE in the compiled kernel | 10:06 |
| zinzin | the bug was reported upstream | 10:06 |
| zinzin | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17993 | 10:06 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 17993 in Driver/intel "[GEM] kernel with PAE panics when starting X" [Normal,Assigned] | 10:06 |
| zinzin | i think that is the case. i am recompiling kernel now, to see if the problem is gone | 10:06 |
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| askand | Is it possible that latest inteldriver may fix bug 303011 , info in the last comment | 10:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 303011 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i945] 2.5.1 driver poor performance" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303011 | 10:45 |
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| Laibsch | I'm sure DKMS is nice, but I wonder if we're not going to see Ubuntu-supplied kernel modules as a separate package anytime soon (compiled with the help of dkms, I suppose) | 12:33 |
| * Laibsch really hates to have all that cruft on his laptop just to have a simple module which was packaged before | 12:33 | |
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| jbuncher | apw: still no luck with recognizing my wireless card on those kernels | 15:53 |
| apw | well thats balls isn't it | 15:53 |
| jbuncher | apw: is there a way I can download the source and have it use my current config settings? Like with make oldconfig? I've done that before, though I largely forget the steps. | 15:53 |
| apw | yep, you can slurp down the kernel | 15:54 |
| jbuncher | apw: slurp? | 15:54 |
| apw | copy your current config from /boot/config-<uname -r> | 15:54 |
| apw | make oldconfig, and then make it | 15:54 |
| apw | i don't find install works as nice as i might hope | 15:55 |
| apw | but, that is in theory exactly what my mainline builds did (the second time round) | 15:55 |
| apw | jbuncher, which of those builds did you test? | 15:55 |
| apw | (and did it throw that dependancy warning this time?) | 15:56 |
| apw | jbuncher, btw, this is probabally more appropriate to #ubuntu-kernel, see you over there | 16:01 |
| jbuncher | apw: I installed all 3, but I tried booting the 2.6.24.4 build. No dependency warning this time on any of the installs. | 16:02 |
| apw | jbuncher, /join #ubuntu-kernel | 16:03 |
| jbuncher | apw:done | 16:03 |
| * skorasaurus is away: Away | 16:18 | |
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| askand1 | If I should file a bug about removing PalmOS from the preferences menu, what package should I file it against? | 16:34 |
| btm | there is a bug status 'wont fix' but I assume regular users can't access it? | 17:35 |
| savvas | yes btm | 17:36 |
| savvas | I think it's reserved for the bug triagers and the coders | 17:36 |
| bdmurray | Only the ubuntu-bugcontrol team can set a bug's status to won't fix. | 17:41 |
| btm | is there a process for getting them to look at a bug? subscribe a user? or just leave it for them to stumble across? | 17:41 |
| bdmurray | you could mention it here ;-) | 17:43 |
| btm | sure, just didn't want to spam over all these join/parts ;) | 17:43 |
| btm | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpgsql-ruby/+bug/290648 | 17:43 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 290648 in libpgsql-ruby "code needs to require 'pg' instead of 'postgres'" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:43 |
| mrooney | For a bug that is new in Jaunty and gets fixed with an update, that gets marked Fix Released right? | 17:46 |
| charlie-tca | btm: done | 17:47 |
| MrKanister | mrooney: Yes, if the fix made it to an Ubuntu release the bug that belongs to the package can be set to "fix-released" | 17:47 |
| bdmurray | If you definitively know the cause and fix | 17:48 |
| bdmurray | If it was magical I'd prefer it became Invalid | 17:49 |
| mrooney | MrKanister: well Jaunty isn't released yet, hence the question | 17:49 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: yeah it is narrowed down to a specific commit in the source package so I'll do released, thanks! | 17:50 |
| MrKanister | mrooney: But the fix is in Jaunty...so in the jaunty release :) | 17:50 |
| MrKanister | The final release does not have to be released to mark a bug as fix releasd | 17:51 |
| mrooney | really, I thought we did Fix Committed in that case for some reason | 17:52 |
| MrKanister | The bugsquad usually uses "fix commited" if the bug has been fixed in the upstream project, but an updated package is not yet in Ubuntu | 17:54 |
| btm | this should be wontfix for ubuntu (gems pkg drama) and fixed upstream [or not] (debian) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgems-ruby/+bug/244742 | 18:07 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 244742 in libgems-ruby "ruby1.8-dev should be recommended, not suggested" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | #334476 | 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | 334476 | 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | does the bot not bring that up anymore? | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca | bug 334476 | 18:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 334476 in libv4l "Webcam applications in Ubuntu still cannot address VFL1 devices" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334476 | 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh | 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | ty | 18:09 |
| calc | dtchen: ping | 19:10 |
| calc | dtchen: is AlsaInfoOutput something you want lots of data points for? I was considering bringing it up at the desktop meeting to have everyone gather data for it... | 19:11 |
| calc | dtchen: if i read the email correctly this is just for known broken setups, but I am not certain... | 19:14 |
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| bdmurray | sbeattie: do you recall where update-manager finds the new upgrade tool for devel releases? | 20:38 |
| bdmurray | eh found it | 20:38 |
| sbeattie | bdmurray: dists/jaunty/main/dist-upgrader-all/current or something else? | 20:44 |
| bdmurray | sbeattie: that's the one I always think its in pool for some reason | 20:45 |
| bdmurray | I'm looking at bug 328452 | 20:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 328452 in update-manager "do-release-upgrade reboots computer if user enters something other than n when being prompted for reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328452 | 20:45 |
| bdmurray | some how the default is Y instead of N | 20:45 |
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| bdmurray | Okay, I got it | 20:55 |
| carlFK_lt | pidgin crashed - gdb bt: http://dpaste.com/1531/ | 21:17 |
| carlFK_lt | is this worth reporting on lp? | 21:17 |
| carlFK_lt | now with debugsym, kinda http://dpaste.com/1555/ | 21:48 |
| jbrinkmann | Hi. What would be correct way to handle bug 330067 ? There is no Google Earth package which caused the trouble. | 22:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 330067 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "X server crash while running Google Earth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330067 | 22:19 |
| maco | well it's x's problem, not google earth's so it's properly assigned | 22:20 |
| jbrinkmann | ok | 22:20 |
| jbrinkmann | thx | 22:20 |
| seb128 | ogasawara: hi, could you get somebody to look at bug #197762? it's open for several cycle and seems to get quite some users frustrated by the lack of anybody triaging or replying or considering the bug | 22:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 197762 in linux "file transfers on USB disk are very slow" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197762 | 22:46 |
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