[00:11] jono: may be related to the cairo library change [00:11] calc, are you aware of the bug? [00:12] jono: if you don't have your system set to subpixel hinting does it look properly? [00:12] jono: i am aware of a bug with hinting with subpixel yes, cairo made a backwards incompatible change that has made OOo look a bit odd when font hinting is set to subpixel [00:13] jono: i'm not certain if it is the same bug you are seeing though [00:14] calc, yeah it looks better when I am not using subpixel smoothing [00:14] calc, is there a fix for this? [00:14] fonts look fine (i think) to me with subpixel full hinting, so i am not sure which subpixel mode is messed up with the new cairo [00:14] jono: not that i know of :( [00:14] oh that sucks [00:15] i think i asked about a fix for this before, but i will email the developer list again to see if anyone has fixed it independently (eg in suse private branch or fedora) [00:15] cool :) [00:15] sometimes fixes are hidden unintentionally, heh [00:16] haha [00:16] indeed :) [00:16] calc, does this build have the funky new anti aliasing in it, or is that 3.1? [00:17] new anti aliasing? i'm not sure i know what you are talking about :) [00:17] the builds for a while now (i think intrepid too) have had cairo support for anti aliasing which was broken with cairo 1.7.5 (iirc) [00:17] calc, shapes in OOo are going to be anti aliased [00:18] ah ok, probably in 3.1 if you read about recently, 3.1 is due out at the end of march if it makes it on time [00:18] I think it wasnt turned on by default [00:18] cool [00:18] 3.1 won't be in official ubuntu until 9.10 but i should have some ppa debs shortly after release [00:19] so it looks like i never asked on the developer list and just filed a bug about the cairo incompat issue, so perhaps emailing the developer list will help spur someone who knows more about it get it fixed quickly [00:22] calc, cool :) [00:23] jono: thanks for reminding me about this bug i think i know which patch adds support for it, so i can more easily search for if there are updates :) [00:23] * jono high fives calc :) [00:25] the patch i found that took from redhat originally for this to work at all apparently was integrated with OOo 3.0, so not sure what is going on [00:25] but i know who to ask :) [00:27] and the patch was later removed, hmm, ok emailing list [00:27] the patch in ooo-build that is [00:30] jono: maybe we will get lucky and have a fix for it for alpha 6 :) [00:31] calc, that would be kick ass :) [00:31] jono: caolan the redhat OOo guy seems to know quite a bit about gnome programming so may be able to fix it if he doesn't already have a patch for it [00:31] :) [00:33] jono: did you get my email a while back about fodt? [00:33] odt? [00:33] fodt? [00:33] fodt == flat odt (one big uncompressed odt file) [00:34] hmmm I don't think so [00:34] ah ok [00:34] well fodt might be useful for you for revision control since its just a single large uncompressed xml file [00:35] a patch went in about a month ago that fixed the formatting of the file to have line breaks which made it actually usable in rcs situations :) [00:35] oh nice :) [00:36] jono: if you run into any problems with it be sure to file bugs :) its a feature added by novell so we can probably get fixes fairly quickly [00:37] sounds great [00:37] thanks dude :) [00:37] np :) [01:00] Where is the best channel to ask for help debugging DBus? [01:01] maxb: probably either here or a channel on irc.gnome.org [01:01] maxb: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels [01:09] maxb, try #gnome-hackers on irc.gnome.org [01:10] thanks [01:47] is the evolution indicator supposed to pop up its window plus the regular top right black indicator? [01:48] * calc thinks there is a bug somewhere [01:49] MacSlow, ping [01:50] andreasn, pong [01:50] andreasn, dude ... should you not be sleeping at this late hour [01:50] saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDevelopmentGuidelines [01:50] ... and are located under /usr/share/icons/Human/scalable/status. Until symlinks or updated icons for other icon-themes are installed using these without the icon-theme being set to Human will fail to display the intended icon. You can still of course use full file paths to .svg/.png/.jpg icons. The afore listed sourcecode-examples show the use of icons. [01:50] andreasn, yeah ... I'm still writing content for that [01:51] shouldn't it be saner to install it into notification things private hicolor? [01:51] andreasn, I assume kwwii contacted you regarding this [01:51] we spoke a bit about it on irc earlier today [01:51] but he was about to fly away [01:52] andreasn, I have no real opinion on that topic... I trust you art/Tango folks to know the best solution for this [01:52] it's what apps usually do with the icons they install [01:52] http://live.gnome.org/ThemableAppSpecificIcons/ [01:52] rhytmbox, power-manager, evince, evolution etc, [01:53] and since hicolor is the lowest common detonator, it will work across whatever icon theme you select [01:53] including HighContrast n stuff [01:53] andreasn, ehm... *tilt* [01:54] I'm not the one doing the packaging anyway, so :) [01:55] andreasn, I'm doing Python and C# atm ... I'm a bit "bleeding" ;) [01:55] who does? [01:55] I'll raise the issue with kwwii tomorrow [01:55] kwwii does it afaik [01:55] oh, I think he already knows that then [01:55] as lapo and dobey also bugged him about it on irc :) [01:55] that's all we do you know :) [01:56] :) [01:56] how have the feedback been so far? [01:57] from The Internet [01:57] mostly positive [01:57] negative feedback was mostly due to people not reading anything (or not the full monty) [01:57] haha [01:58] everybody had no clue that sofar every app was using libnotify not according to the spec [01:58] not really testing for supported caps of the daemon [01:58] people were very fast with pointing fingers at us :) [05:55] Hi all, [05:55] having an issue installing desktop on a machine with a RAID controller in it. [05:56] error #5 at 52% of install [05:56] 3ware 8600 [05:57] Ubuntu see's all the partitions starts the copying process then stops at 52% [05:57] any help would be greatly appreciated. [05:57] I have googled and read the fourms [05:58] i tried the few hints that were out there.......running the install command as root...etc [05:58] to no avail [07:20] Good morning [07:57] morning pitti o/ [07:58] bonjour didrocks, comment vas-tu? [08:00] pitti: gut [08:00] pitti: sorry, my German is very poor [08:01] I always tells this to dholbach. 6 years of German for... nothing :/ [08:01] pitti: and you, how do you do? ;) [08:02] didrocks: "gut" was correct :) [08:02] didrocks: mir geht es gut, danke! [08:03] pitti: es ist schwierig, mit einem Wort zu täuschen :) [08:03] hehe [08:34] hey seb128 :) [08:34] hello didrocks [08:35] seb128: nautilus-sendto is ready (bug #334067). Even if I didn't understand the "Add an evolution plugin to allow sending arbitrary attachments through nautilus-sendto". I see a new entry in evolution plugins configuration, but nothing evident appears [08:35] Launchpad bug 334067 in nautilus-sendto "Please, sponsor nautilus-sendto 1.1.2 to jaunty" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334067 [08:35] seb128: and don't forget gnome-python (bug #327933) when you will have time [08:35] Launchpad bug 327933 in gnome-python "Please, sponsor gnome-python 2.25.90 to jaunty" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/327933 [08:35] didrocks: right [08:37] seb128: FYI, I created a new bzr branch for nautilus-sendto, as there was only the init commit in the previous one almost 2 years ago. You can push it to the same location with --overwrite [08:37] mvo__: thanks for the upload :) [08:37] didrocks: ok [08:37] cheers didrocks [08:40] hello slomo_, thanks for the glib changes [08:40] slomo_: did you read my gstreamer question yesterday? [08:41] seb128: yes, i'll do that in the next days [08:41] slomo_: thanks [08:42] didrocks: no sponsoring today due to the freeze which is in effect [08:43] seb128: as mvo__ sponsored libgtop yesterday, I thought that you can dput the .changes and as we are in Freeze for next alpha, it will just be queued for building until the alpha is realeased [08:44] released* [08:44] didrocks: no, that's a soft freeze for alphas, uploads are not blocked we just need to be civilized [08:44] didrocks: yesterday was fine for uploads but better to not do changes today while they try to build cds [08:44] seb128: of course. I thought it was more automatized, but civic rules are right too :) [08:45] s/right/good [08:47] didrocks: not sure why you would consider blocking uploads as a better technical solution, that would add extra work for people reviewing those items and mean you couldn't get universe fixes, etc in while the CD are being built [08:49] seb128: I didn't say it was good, civic bahvior is always better. I just thought that because libgtop has been built (https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=libgtop&build_state=built) but is no published yet: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgtop [08:49] (and so, the associated bug is not closed) [08:50] didrocks: you want to look to libgtop2 source? [08:51] seb128: Not really, I was just wondering why the bug was not closed and so, checked if it was built and published [08:52] didrocks: did you open it on the correct source? [08:52] ie libgtop against libgtop2 component in launchpad [08:52] hum, you're right, I opened it against libgtop :/ [08:52] sorry... [08:53] Ok, I reattribute it and push it manually fixed released [08:53] ok, no black magic though... my bad :/ === mvo__ is now known as mvo [09:00] hello gents [09:01] lut crevette [09:01] hey didrocks [09:02] lut crevette [09:03] good morning seb128 [09:39] Guys quick query I got the new gdm theme but I've not got the new backdrop that popey displayed yesterday should it be in on the alpha 5 release candidates or not? [09:43] davmor2: gdm backdrop? [09:44] pitti: 2 ticks [09:44] davmor2: I'm not aware of anything pending which needs to land, so in theory it should be all in [09:46] davmor2: "2 ticks"? [09:47] pitti: I have this http://popey.com/~alan/screenshot.png but not this http://popey.com/~alan/background.png [09:48] davmor2: oh, you mean the background should be for the GNOME session, not gdm itself? [09:48] pitti: I still got intrepids background [09:48] since gdm itself does have that picture [09:48] right [09:48] that's still on the TODO list [09:49] * pitti asks kwwii [09:49] pitti: Okay cool I just wondered as login theme was in but the desktop background wasn't :) === mt is now known as mat_t [10:13] mvo, seb128: do you think that https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/331564/comments/5 (the FAQ) has sufficient information to do the change, or do we need more info from Mirco? [10:13] Ubuntu bug 331564 in compiz "sometimes notification flickers when fading in" [High,New] [10:14] pitti: would be a question for mvo_ [10:14] I think they discussed it with MacSlow a week ago or so [10:16] which one? [10:20] mvo_: the compiz default settings changes for notifications, see above bug comment [10:20] mvo_: mvo, seb128: do you think that https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/331564/comments/5 (the FAQ) has sufficient information to do the change, or do we need more info from Mirco? [10:20] Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/331564/+text) === aguai1 is now known as aguai [10:23] interessting, I have not seen this one since hte compiz update, let me try with a new iuser [10:24] neither have I, but David says it's still an issue we need to fix [10:28] hm, the faq entry looks a bit odd, I will talk to macslow when he is back [10:28] mvo_: ok, thanks === shiyee is now known as abemad [10:49] are notify-osd bubbles supposed to appear over the top panel, or below it? [10:56] Ng: below [10:56] Ng: bug #332094 [10:56] Launchpad bug 332094 in notify-osd "Jaunty: notifications overlap top panel " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332094 === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [10:57] seb128: ta [10:57] you're welcome === mpt__ is now known as mpt [11:57] hey desktop lovers [11:58] hello sabdfl [11:58] thanks for joining the call last night seb [11:59] np, I was interested in the discussion and I think that was productive ;-) [12:14] is there a way to configure the look of the new notifications? It's easy to miss dark notifications on a dark desktop or on top of an maximized terminal [12:21] MacSlow: can you reply to geser's question? [12:22] geser, no you can [12:22] geser, they are not themable (color-wise) [12:23] geser, well you can always patch it yourself... but it's not meant to be at runtime [12:24] MacSlow: is it worth to open a wishlist bug for it? [12:24] geser, sure [12:49] MacSlow: hi, do you know more about https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/331564 ? [12:49] Ubuntu bug 331564 in compiz "sometimes notification flickers when fading in" [High,New] [13:16] mvo__, no ... atm I don't ... and David did a confusion answer related to that stating metacity (although he very likely meant compiz ... metacity does not have any plugins one could configure) === JanC_ is now known as JanC [13:34] MacSlow: yeah, I was confused by this as well :) [13:45] mvo__, atm I can't chase those as I'm far behind with the implementation for UIF [13:47] uif? === mvo__ is now known as mvo [13:57] mvo: user interface freeze [13:57] aha [13:57] thanks seb128 [13:58] you're welcome === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [14:19] seb128, ping [14:19] hggdh: hi [14:20] hi, seb128. Can you please have a look at the package I proposed for libpst? dholbach has looked at it, and asked for you to give it a spin. [14:20] seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpst/+bug/317602 [14:20] Ubuntu bug 317602 in libpst "Please upgrade libpst from upstream at www.five-ten-sg.com/libpst" [Undecided,In progress] [14:20] hggdh: asked where and when? [14:21] seb128, this morning. I have added in the changes he proposed, but would like to know if you have more [14:21] hggdh: do you have an updated version with the changes? [14:21] hggdh: he didn't subscribe me to the bug so good that you ping on IRC ;-) [14:21] seb128, no, not yet. You want me to submit it, then you would look? [14:22] yes [14:22] OK, will do [14:23] thanks [14:23] sorry it's taking a while for the review rounds, etc, everybody is busy [14:23] same for evolution-mapi I'm wondering what's going on there [14:23] james_w: hey ;-) [14:24] james_w: somebody told me you were reviewing this one do you know what's going on? [14:24] I think we still have some problems on e-mapi... [14:24] seb128: evolution-mapi? [14:24] james_w: yes [14:25] http://revu.ubuntuwire.org/p/evolution-mapi [14:25] package isn't too bad, but needs updating [14:25] oh you guys are still using review for comments [14:26] hum [14:26] is there any motu who could work on getting this package uploaded? [14:26] I was trying to avoid adding that to my todolist, too much to do already [14:27] but we need that in jaunty and we are past feature freeze, things are not moving quickly [14:35] seb128, latest libpst is published on https://launchpad.net/~hggdh2/+archive/ppa [14:36] hggdh: oh you have an ical fix there? [14:37] hggdh: e-d-s ical fix I mean rather [14:37] hggdh: does it fix bug #334347 or bug #331428 ? [14:37] Launchpad bug 334347 in libical "evolution crashed opening Edit->Preferences" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334347 [14:37] Launchpad bug 331428 in libical "Jaunty - Evolution crash when I right click on a calendar entry." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331428 [14:39] seb128, let me see [14:42] * kenvandine[work] is wondering why installing skype has completely broken sound [14:45] * kenvandine[work] reboots [14:49] hggdh: not sure why you have makefiles in the debian directory? [14:54] hggdh: otherwise looks good to me [14:54] seb128, neither am I... I probably did not notice it when I cleaned up the upstream Makefile.am [14:54] seb128, I will look at it [14:55] the rules seems a bit complicated [14:55] why do you run autotools at build time? [14:56] because upstream did a basic (and wrong) debianisation, and Makefile.am was creating a lot of cruft for debian [14:56] so I had to delete the original ./debian (and add in a get-orig-source), and patch Makefile.am/configure.in [14:57] hum [14:57] can you get upstream to fix that? ;-) [14:57] believe me, this was *not* a package for a first-time packager :-( [14:58] I contacted them, and got a response like "well, we expect you to adjust it as needed". I was thinking of proposing back to them the finished debdiff [14:59] pitti: is your hal bug the reason why i have not audio devices suddenly? [14:59] s/not/no [14:59] kenvandine[work]: yes (and sluggish graphics, and no camera/scanner access, etc.) [14:59] hahaha [14:59] ok [15:00] well, in my defence, I didn't break it :) [15:00] i was blaming skype for screwing up my mixer levels or something [15:00] rickspencer3: is our call now or in an hour? [15:00] it like broke right after i installed that proprietary crap :) [15:01] pitti: yes. Still available? [15:01] itz all skype's fault!!!!11!! [15:01] rickspencer3: yes, done with firefighting; I need to hurry up the hal build, then I'm done [15:01] :) [15:01] pitti: [15:01] sounds good [15:02] done [15:03] hggdh: right, the package is mostly good now though the autotools run is not optimal, we tend to have a patch to do that and have a simple rules [15:03] hggdh: I will not ask you to redo it though, your way works too [15:04] seb128, I did not know how to get it done in a complete way, guaranteeing that the resulting package could be built from source [15:05] hggdh: what do you mean? [15:05] if I changed Makefile.in, this would not survive a autoreconf [15:07] well, I guess I could change Makefile.in and Makefile.am both. Would this be the patch you are referring to? [15:07] rickspencer3: (I'm ready, btw) [15:09] pitti: how long before i see the hal update available? [15:10] kenvandine[work]: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/0.5.12~rc1+git20090204-0ubuntu3 [15:10] kenvandine[work]: I bumped up the build score, but buildds are still fairly clogged; should build within the hour, and be on archive.u.c. in two [15:10] ah [15:11] ok === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [15:29] mvo: anything to test on compiz startup time yet? [15:30] asac: yes, could you please disable all plugins (in ccsm) but decoration and start compiz and give me the timings on the commandline [15:30] mvo: err. i think we need more. a) i have hardy on that system ;) [15:31] b) ... i dont know :) [15:31] asac: this is just for a baseline test (to see what overhaead the plugins have) [15:31] ccsm should already be installed [15:38] Guys out of interest with the fusa and mail/coms envelope will you be switching off the pidgin applet ? [15:58] By the way you can't read the session type on the new login page [16:11] mvo_: Not sure if this is feasible in Jaunty, but I just submitted a report bug #344426 [16:11] Error: Launchpad bug 344426 could not be found [16:11] bug # 334426 [16:12] bug #334426 [16:12] Launchpad bug 334426 in libcompizconfig "Add protobuf depencies for faster start up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334426 [16:14] dashua: fast sound *good* [16:15] dashua: I check it out, did you do some profiling how much it helps the startup speed? [16:15] No, I just notice a difference. [16:16] No tests done, yet. [16:16] does this team deal with ubuntu-gdm-theme or is it better on #ubuntu-devel [16:33] dashua: thanks, I plan to do something about the speed, so this is very welcome [16:33] mvo_: Np, works well as far as I can see. It's enabled by default as long as the dependencies are there. [16:34] dashua: on head or on 0.8 as well? we only have the later [16:37] mvo_: It's post 0.7.8, on libcompizconfig master now [16:40] Hopefully, they will do a plugins release soon and it will be there. [16:40] Not sure how they're going about it. [16:42] dashua: aha, cool. thanks for this info. I think I will prepare snapshots in the compiz ppa and check it out [16:42] Maybe grab a snapshot of libcompizconfig, compizconfig-pyhon, and ccsm [16:42] Maybe that'll work [16:42] Ah cool [16:42] python* [16:47] mvo_: Ah, you already snapped extras and main. I didn't see that. [16:49] dashua: yeah, the new wall move looks so nice :) and 0.8 should be around the corner [16:50] Yeah, that is awesome. [16:54] didrocks: I looked at the nautilus-sendto merge but it seems it does not merge into hte ~ubuntu-desktop/nautilus-sendto/ubuntu branch. maybe seb128 knows about it (he pushed the initial version it seems) [16:55] mvo_: exactly, let me a minute to quote what I told to seb128 [16:56] mvo_: [09:37] seb128: FYI, I created a new bzr branch for nautilus-sendto, as there was only the init commit in the previous one almost 2 years ago. You can push it to the same location with --overwrite [16:57] from what I understood and experienced, --overwrite just remove all data in the branch history and push new ones [16:57] didrocks: ok, if seb is fine with that, I will do that :) [16:58] mvo_: oh, btw, if you find what corresponds to "add evolution plugin...": I only see a new plugin in evolution with a checkbox to activate/deactivate it, but don't find what it is used for :) === aguai2 is now known as aguai === aguai2 is now known as aguai [17:16] hey guys, are you using the tag "notifications" for any bugs related to the new notify-osd work? [17:24] mvo_, do you have time for a call now (or sometime today) about update-manager? [17:25] mpt: either in ~1h or tomorrow morning, does that work for you? [17:25] (dinner time now) [17:25] pitti: Riddell: asac: ^^^^^^ [17:26] I'm not, easily enough could start doing so [17:27] mvo_, ok, what time do you start tomorrow morning? [17:28] mpt: 9:00 my time (so 8:00 yours) [17:28] mpt: I have nothing scheduled in the morning, so anytime that is good for you works for me [17:28] mvo_, ok, I'll call you 10:00 your time, thanks! [17:30] mpt: thanks [17:36] rickspencer3, sabdfl: ah, so that's the tag, not dxteam? good, will use it from now [17:37] pitti: see the wiki page describing the tags in general [17:37] pitti: use notifications in every case, but please keep on using 'dxteam' when u expect us to actually work on the fix [17:41] Does the new update-manager behaviour take dist-upgrading with apt(itude) into account when deciding when to launch? [17:42] davidbarth: hm, shouldn't we use assignments for that? but well, works for me [17:43] also I find the new reboot dialog to be suboptimal - I seem to just stumble upon the dialog when doing other things rather than seeing it during the upgrade process [17:46] maybe this is a side-effect of my using docky though [17:54] is anyone else experiencing notify-osd "hanging" and not showing notifications? [17:54] I feel it might be related to showing dialogs, but I'm not sure [17:55] mine "hangs" when I do the volume or brightness adjustments too quickly, as if there's a lag [17:55] and then they eventually catch up [18:03] Hmm [18:03] can someone run "for i in $(seq 1 10); do notify-send $i; done" from a shell [18:04] see if you get them all appear [18:06] I didn't get 3 [18:06] If I just do it with seq 1 3 then I don't get 2 === xhaker_ is now known as xhaker [18:18] wow, how odd [18:18] the missing notification does appear if I change workspace [18:20] yay... i have sound again [18:23] kenvandine[work]: \o/ [18:26] didrocks: so seb128 is fine with --override? (just to confirm before I run it) [18:28] * kenvandine[work] is a bit afraid to try skype again ... :) [18:28] asac: ArneGoetje: bryce: calc: kenvandine[work]: pitti: regarding sabdfl's question ... [18:29] heno will send us detailed instructions regarding how to tag the bugs so that when we see them, we can quickly tag them [18:29] (just fyi) [18:30] rickspencer3: which question? [18:30] kenvandine[work]: are we tagging bugs with "notifications" properly [18:30] oh... [18:31] ok [18:31] "notifications" means "this has something to do with the new notifications subsystem" [18:31] and "dxteam" means "the dx team will work on fixing it asap!" [18:31] kenvandine[work]: you're probably more dialed into this than the rest of us, but we need to get dialed in [18:31] ok [18:31] * kenvandine[work] has been looking over those today :) [18:32] rickspencer3: ok, thanks [18:32] * pitti -> Taekwondo, cu tomorrow! [18:32] later pitti [18:32] pitti: thanks for all your help today! [18:33] ah ok :) [18:34] that reminds me i need to ask seb128 if evolution is supposed to be popping up a separate notification window now [18:34] its been doing that on my system since the new notification system appeared (i think) [18:35] calc: yeah... we are working on that [18:35] calc: do the windows have buttons on them? Are they notifications with actions, in other words? [18:35] i have a patch [18:35] calc: you mean in the notification area, right? [18:36] ah its bug 331571 i think [18:36] Launchpad bug 331571 in evolution "disable Mail Notification eplugin by default" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331571 [18:36] yeah [18:36] i think we have agreed on the fix now [18:36] rickspencer3: real windows with buttons in the middle of my screen [18:36] see, this is exactly what the tag is for [18:36] just go here: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=notifications [18:36] calc: oh... [18:37] if it's not on the list, it should be, and you can add it to the list by tagging it [18:37] rickspencer3: ok [18:37] rickspencer3: i am going to add jaunty-uif tags for bugs that need to be done before UIF [18:37] I think it may actually be this one Bug #328596 [18:37] Launchpad bug 328596 in evolution "evolution shouldn't use notifications with actions" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328596 [18:38] which is on the list [18:38] kenvandine[work]: thanks. if we can be proactive about helping the dx team to manage UIF and UIFEs, that would be, uh, helpful [18:38] oh it might be, not completely certain [18:38] the window it pops up looks like a regular gtk window with a button telling me that i have new mail [18:39] calc: I'm pretty certain that's the bug [18:39] 328596 refers to a bubble though? [18:39] this is a full window managed window [18:39] if i can get it to happen again i can take a screenshot of it [18:40] calc: please do [18:40] calc: notify-osd turns notifications with actions into gtk windows [18:40] ah ok [18:40] that's why there shouldn't be an action [18:40] i bet that is what it is [18:40] not sure why you are seeing that though [18:40] in this way, no program will fail [18:40] ok [18:41] kenvandine[work]: was there a plugin or something that calc should enable? [18:41] fwiw i'm using metacity but do generally get the other black upper right notifications [18:41] rickspencer3: no [18:41] calc: yeah, that means the system is working [18:41] * kenvandine[work] looks at something [18:41] calc: does OOo offer any notifications? [18:42] rickspencer3: not afaik [18:42] k [18:43] calc: ah... [18:43]