[08:40] <gnomefreak> !info gwibber
[08:40] <gnomefreak> !info gwibber jaunty
[09:18] <_Tsk_> Morning
[09:18] <_Tsk_> Are there any plans to add Thunderbird to http://mozilla.qa.ubuntu.com/ ?
[09:21] <gnomefreak> _Tsk_: that page has to be updated for a few packages but when depends when time for it comes up
[09:35] <gnomefreak> asac: is it possible to update ubufox to be compatible with 3.1 and 3.2? there are others but i think when i get time i will update them most likely not today though. if you are going to edit the qa page please see me for ideas on what to add. im thinking all of our packages
[09:36] <gnomefreak> ok smoke before hitting email
[10:01] <fta> result = [x for x in result if x]
[10:01] <fta> who said python was more readable than perl?
[10:02] <asac> you can mess with all languages
[10:06] <fta> firefox-3.1_3.1~b3~hg20090221r23413+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 3.1~b3~hg20090221r23413+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 <= 3.1~b3~hg20090222r23369+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[10:06] <fta> damn hg
[10:07] <fta> i should not depend on dates from mozilla
[10:12] <fta> in perl: @result = grep { $_ } @result;
[10:32] <gnomefreak> anyone else try to push a branch and it give a permissions error?
[10:33] <asac> fta: maybe dump the version and use the revision number
[10:33] <asac> at least in front
[10:33] <asac> dump the date i mean ;)
[10:34] <asac> gnomefreak: most likely this means you are trying to push somewhere where you dont have permissions ;)
[10:34] <asac> gnomefreak: what url are you pushing to?
[10:34] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/628162
[10:34] <gnomefreak> asac: ^^
[10:35] <asac> lp:~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/greasemonkey/greasemonkey.upstream
[10:35] <asac> ETOODEEP
[10:35] <asac> either remove firefox-extensions/ or greasemonkey/
[10:36] <asac> lp:~USER/PROJECT/BRANCHNEM
[10:36] <gnomefreak> asac: why would the patch cause issues?
[10:36] <asac> gnomefreak: PATH
[10:36] <asac> gnomefreak: launchpad only supports the three elements from above
[10:36] <asac> you used four
[10:37] <gnomefreak> is this new feature?
[10:37] <asac> no.
[10:37] <asac> its always been that way
[10:37] <asac> on lauchpad
[10:37] <gnomefreak> oh crap i see
[10:37] <asac> good  ;)
[10:38] <gnomefreak> asac: that worked thanks :)
[10:39] <gnomefreak> asac: ubufox max version cant be bumped to 3.2*
[10:39] <gnomefreak> i tried and it still didnt help
[10:44] <asac> gnomefreak: i think 3.1 should work
[10:45] <gnomefreak> it does but i use 3.2 as default to im testing a few extensions to see if any are able to be updated (i really dont feel like working on SM2 for intrepid or hardy today) should be a simple autoconf2.13
[10:46]  * gnomefreak smoke than work on this extension
[10:52] <gnomefreak> asac: the fix for tb-3 landed in yesterdays morning umd build
[10:52] <asac> yeah
[10:53] <gnomefreak> slower to respond but works
[10:53] <asac> i alreawdy have the 24th feb build ;)
[10:54] <gnomefreak> yep me to :) i'm guessing todays asnt been finished yet
[10:59] <asac> gwibber crashed
[11:00] <asac> fta: will gwibber ever make it?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> 3.1 is borked
[11:40] <gnomefreak> be back while i update packages
[11:52] <gnomefreak> umd 3.1 is broken. nothing shows up in the address bar unless you type it in it will not open set homepage the bottom panel of firefox-3.1 doesnt show done or anything for that matter
[12:05] <asac> gnomefreak: can you disable bounce mails for ML until we have sorted the icedove bugmail?
[12:06] <asac> i will revert the maintainer change on next update i guess
[12:06] <asac> so we get rid of this again
[12:06] <gnomefreak> asac: not sure. ill look as soon as i find 3.1 issues, borked in 3.1~b3~hg20090205r23182+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 also
[12:07] <gnomefreak> new profile doesnt fix it
[12:08] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe your disabled extension compatibility test?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> asac: none work working
[12:08] <asac> hmm. new profiel ... hmm
[12:09]  * gnomefreak cant find link to admin for list
[12:10] <asac> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/admindb/ubuntu-mozillateam
[12:11] <gnomefreak> i found it
[12:12]  * gnomefreak not seeing a way however accepting them works. what needs to be delt with for icedove bugmail? 
[12:12] <gnomefreak> only think i can do is place those on hold accept or not accept
[12:13] <gnomefreak> im reading https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/admindb/ubuntu-mozillateam?details=instructions
[12:13] <asac> gnomefreak: you can at least say that there should be no bounce mails
[12:13] <asac> e.g. silent moderation
[12:13] <asac> gnomefreak: and in the end accepting them
[12:13] <gnomefreak> really?
[12:13] <asac> gnomefreak: yes
[12:14] <asac> gnomefreak: can you send me the pass through pmsg?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> yeah
[12:14] <asac> either it changes all the time or i am just dump
[12:15] <gnomefreak> it stays the same since i cant figure out how to change it
[12:17] <gnomefreak> ok ill be back i need to do breakfast
[12:31] <asac> gnomefreak: ok found it
[12:32] <asac> general options: "Send mail to poster when their posting is held for approval?
[12:32] <asac> "
[12:32] <asac> i set that to no now
[13:11] <gnomefreak> asac: oh ok
[13:12]  * gnomefreak getting pissed off at the devel and devel-discuss seems im not getting them
[13:28] <gnomefreak> asac: you didnt make any changes to the icedove posts to ML?
[13:29] <asac> gnomefreak: no
[13:29] <asac> i can do that after lunch if you dont get to it
[13:29] <gnomefreak> ok thanks
[13:29] <asac> sorry ... got distrated with disabling the moderation mails ;)
[14:25] <[reed]> gnomefreak: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/calendar/2009/02/even_more_on_the_sunbirdlightn.html
[14:26] <gnomefreak> [reed]: thanks ill look in a few
[14:41] <gnomefreak> someone please remind me why i bother checking email anymore. takes >2hours and i get nothing done
[15:00] <gnomefreak> asac: before you decide to push seamonkey i need to fix one more thing by the looks of it but since it hasnt been pushed yet i guess im not in a hurry ;)
[15:01] <asac> gnomefreak: i didnt know there was anything to push
[15:02] <gnomefreak> asac: its been done you did jauntys i did hardys nad intrepids
[15:02] <asac> or do you mean from ~gnomefreak to ~mozillatem branch?
[15:02] <asac> ah ok
[15:02] <gnomefreak> asac: push to ubuntu archives
[15:02] <gnomefreak> but seems there is a problem with depends
[15:02] <gnomefreak> mozilla (<< 2:1.8) is the problem as i can tell since seamonkey is not >1.8
[15:03] <gnomefreak> should read >>2:1.8
[15:03] <gnomefreak> see bug 200519
[15:03] <gnomefreak> oops
[15:03] <gnomefreak> bug 300519
[15:06] <asac> gnomefreak: so the problem is that semonkey doesnt have an epoch element in its version?
[15:07] <gnomefreak> asac: right
[15:07] <asac> gnomefreak: we might be able to tweak the version of just the "mozilla" package
[15:07] <asac> so it gets an epoch too
[15:07] <asac> i will think about it
[15:07] <asac> its not reawlly that urgent imo
[15:07] <gnomefreak> its built with seamonkey so shouldnt tweaking seamonkey fix all?
[15:07] <asac> as its just a transicional package
[15:08] <asac> gnomefreak: yes, but i dont want to add an epoch to seamonkey if its avoidable somehow
[15:09] <gnomefreak> asac: ok sounds good here but you are right no important.either we fix itin 1.1.14 or push 1.1.14(security release ") and we can fix after wards but i wont get to it this week at all
[15:10] <asac> gnomefreak: we should wait fo rthe securityupdate that is going out sson
[15:12] <gnomefreak> ok im going to work ill be back in morning
[15:43]  * BUGabundo fta mail going your way
[16:09] <stefanlsd> asac: alive?
[16:11] <reed> what's the difference between flashplugin-nonfree and adobe-flashplugin?
[16:11] <BUGabundo1> humm the same?
[16:11] <reed> they aren't
[16:11] <BUGabundo1> no ?
[16:11] <reed> nope
[16:11] <BUGabundo1> ahh
[16:12] <BUGabundo1> the plugin is just a wrapper to download it ?
[16:12] <reed> flashplugin-nonfree currently has an exploitable version
[16:12] <reed> adobe-flashplugin has the latest
[16:12] <asac> stefanlsd: not really. i have a bad cold
[16:12] <stefanlsd> asac: aah. sorry to hear that. you should move somewhere with nice weather :)
[16:13] <asac> stefanlsd: good advice ;)
[16:13] <asac> reed: nonfree will be updated today
[16:13] <reed> asac: what's the difference?
[16:13] <asac> i have to kick someone for not communicating
[16:13] <stefanlsd> asac: i still am unclear around what exactly i should be doing with gg 64.
[16:13] <asac> reed: flashplugin-nonfree is an installer package
[16:14] <asac> reed: with nspluginwrapper support (optional on i386)
[16:14] <reed> ah
[16:14] <asac> adobe-flashplugin is hosted outside of ubuntu main archives
[16:14] <asac> because of distribution terms
[16:14] <asac> e.g. partner package
[16:14] <reed> ah, k
[16:14] <stefanlsd> asac: should i be packaging the xpi that i compiled (although it contains two .so files), or should i be doing the 64 bit patching to gg source code and building the xpi that way
[16:14] <asac> and it doesnt support amd64 for now
[16:14]  * reed swaps to adobe-flashplugin for security reasons
[16:15] <asac> reed: thats half a day ;)
[16:15] <asac> and given that flash has no auto update on windows, there are probably zillions of easier targets out there ;)
[16:16] <asac> stefanlsd: we need to use sources if an extension has binary components
[16:17] <BUGabundo1> reed: asac do you know if adobe also launched a 64 bits version update?
[16:17] <stefanlsd> asac: i need to investigate more, but it links against the xpcom stuff. gg source actually provides it and builds against it. the gg source is approx 300mb tho
[16:18] <BUGabundo1> stefanlsd: how is going the work to work on 3.1 and 3.2?
[16:18] <asac> BUGabundo1: its not even final. i am not sure if they support amd64
[16:18] <stefanlsd> BUGabundo1: no progress :)
[16:18] <asac> stefanlsd: we need to fix it so it builds against our xulrunner
[16:18] <BUGabundo1> asac: I've been using the beta or alpha for a whiloe
[16:18] <BUGabundo1> since week 1
[16:18] <asac> BUGabundo1: offering download != supported
[16:19] <stefanlsd> asac: i did that when i built the xpi. (as we need the 64bit xulrunner anyways)
[16:19] <BUGabundo1> but since reed is bashing the security, I would like to use a patched version too
[16:19] <asac> well ... reed just found out and thinks its a big issue ;)
[16:19] <asac> while flashplugin-nonfree will hit mirrors in a few hours
[16:19] <stefanlsd> asac: ok, so i should be looking at building from source and then installing the xpi, as opposed to taking the built xpi and making a extension
[16:20] <asac> stefanlsd: the build yields an .xpi right?
[16:20] <stefanlsd> asac: right
[16:20] <asac> stefanlsd: so what yo should do in the packaging is implement a build: target ... that does that
[16:20] <asac> and then let xpi.mk from mozilla-devscripts do the rest
[16:20] <asac> e.g. proper install of extensions in the file hierarchy ... linking to appropriate apps
[16:21] <stefanlsd> asac: kk. thanks. just wanted to see if i could get around building the source to xpi.
[16:21] <stefanlsd> asac: i guess then it would need to go thru revu
[16:21] <asac> stefanlsd: no. i can review and sponsor
[16:21] <asac> it will come back to me anyway
[16:22] <asac> we can do a revu update to get a third party look at it though
[16:22] <asac> but thats more as a safety-belt thing
[16:23] <stefanlsd> asac: ok. thanks. (my first package also, so i'll give it a try).
[16:23] <stefanlsd> i wanna see if i can repack the tar and remove the things we dont need to cut the size down
[16:23] <asac> stefanlsd: first get a quick review from me. then we put it on revu
[16:24] <asac> and i get someone look at it
[16:24] <asac> then i do a final review and upload
[16:24] <asac> stefanlsd: yes, please remove mos tof the 300M cruft
[16:24] <asac> thats a mess
[16:24] <stefanlsd> asac: kk. thanks for your advice
[16:24] <asac> indicate that in the upstream version by adding +nomozillacopy ;)
[16:24] <asac> or something
[16:25] <asac> e.g. gg_1.1+nomozillacopy.orig.tar.gz
[16:25] <asac> or something else more or less meaningfull
[16:26] <stefanlsd> yeah. its also out of svn.  :)
[16:27] <asac> stefanlsd: tag or snapshot?
[16:28] <asac> stefanlsd: we should also get that to debian fwiw
[16:28] <asac> at lesat open a ITP bug for it there
[16:28] <asac> otherwise someone from debian will take the package and either make your efforts void or duplicating work
[16:30] <stefanlsd> asac: k.
[16:30] <stefanlsd> snapshot
[16:30] <BUGabundo> asac: today's NM wifi keeps failing
[16:30] <asac> stefanlsd: dont they do releases we can track?
[16:30] <BUGabundo> already lost sync 4 times
[16:30] <BUGabundo> it won't last more then 10-15 min
[16:32] <stefanlsd> asac: not sure. no branches. only a trunk. cant see anything in the svn log.  do you know if there is a command to check for tags or something?
[16:33] <asac> where is the tree?
[16:33] <asac> websvn
[16:33] <asac> ?
[16:33] <stefanlsd> asac: http://code.google.com/p/gears/source/checkout
[16:34] <asac> stefanlsd: if there is only trunki then there are no tags :/
[16:35] <asac> so snapshot is the way
[16:36] <asac> stefanlsd: http://code.google.com/p/gears/source/detail?r=3226 seems to be .12
[16:36] <asac> because they bump the version right in next commit
[16:36] <asac> r3227  	 	
[16:36] <asac> [Author: andreip] Bump version number after cutting Gears 0.5.12.0 for Android
[16:36] <asac> stefanlsd: so r3226 is the best guess i would say
[16:37] <stefanlsd> asac: aah yeah. ok. thanks. will work from there
[18:36] <surfaz> asac, ¿?
[21:29] <fta> oh, p-a 0.9.15~test3! let's see if it helps me
[21:55] <fta> dtchen, E: module.c: Failed to open module "module-alsa-card": file not found, again?