[00:07] <pteague> here's output from lshw - http://pastebin.com/mc78a6f0
[00:08] <pteague> that's under the 32bit...  x86-64 is listed under capabilities for the cpu, but i'm wondering if it's the fact that it has hyperthreading that's causing issues?  it's a dual core & appears to have 4 cpus due to the hyperthreading
[00:09] <Guest88892> !help
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[00:19] <pteague> ok, this is fun... now the 32bit is dumping me in X with an error message stating "No Exec line in the session file: mythbuntu.  Running the GNOME failsafe session instead" ??
[00:20] <pteague> clicking ok on that gives me 'Could not find the GNOME installation, will try running the "Failsafe xterm" session'
[00:47] <darthanubis> mv: cannot stat `/var/run/motd.new': No such file or directory
[00:47] <darthanubis> even after I created such a file/dir
[00:47] <foxbuntu> pteague, this 9.04? 8.10? 8.04?
[00:47] <pteague> 8.04 32bit
[00:48] <foxbuntu> pteague, try the alternate disk
[00:48] <foxbuntu> for 8.04
[00:48] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, sounds like a permissions thing, why are you trying to mv a file from /var/run?
[00:48] <darthanubis> I am not
[00:49] <darthanubis> it seems myth is
[00:49] <darthanubis> I did not know about it, until I installed the exim package to get local mail
[00:49] <darthanubis> since I have been getting cron daemon reports of this error
[00:50] <darthanubis> I suppose I could just stop the particular cron job?
[00:51] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, motd is the daemon mytharchive uses
[00:51] <darthanubis> really
[00:51] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, no, Im just screwing with you
[00:51] <foxbuntu> ..yes
[00:52] <darthanubis> hmm
[00:52] <darthanubis> what shall I do?
[00:53] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, do you use mytharchive?
[00:54] <darthanubis> I'd like to, thats why I have it installed. But I've yet too
[00:56] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, do you have a pastebin of your logs?
[00:57] <darthanubis> not at this moment but I can make it so
[00:57] <darthanubis> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f472c3c16
[01:20] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, Im not seeing anything that seems concerning, you prob need to enable cron job logs and watch the error logs of that for more information
[01:21] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, google for how to enable cron job logging
[01:21] <darthanubis> it's logging rright ot my inbox
[01:22] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, um, the cron daemon has its own logging
[01:28] <egaudet> I can't get a pvr-150 working
[01:29] <Guest88892> I have TWC and they have the option of renting dvr (i dont want this) or a HD cable box.  If i use the cable box it would hook to my mythtvbox just like it would to my TV, right?  My tv only has on analog tuner and a  Digital Tuner ATSC, QAM....so as long as I get a capture card like a pcHDTV 5500, I should be golden, right?
[01:29] <egaudet> is the averTV pvr-150 the same as the happauge pvr 150 i've been reading about on the wiki?
[01:29] <foxbuntu> egaudet, no
[01:30] <egaudet> is the avertv pvr-150 supported with any driver under linux?
[01:30] <foxbuntu> egaudet, check the wiki
[01:30] <egaudet> i see no mention of avertv 150 anywhere
[01:31] <foxbuntu> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Hardware
[01:31] <foxbuntu> egaudet, look in the forums
[01:31] <foxbuntu> egaudet, if there is no mention of it and it doesnt init, then its likely not supported
[01:32] <egaudet> i see it now on the wiki, i must have been on a different wiki page
[01:32] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, Correct (obviously there is some work in there)
[01:32] <egaudet> sorry for the noob/lazy question, thanks for the help, i'll continue reading
[01:33] <Guest88892> I guess my question is that since the tv can't read encrypted qam, a capture card that can't read it too is alright...am I understanding that right?
[01:33] <foxbuntu> egaudet, no problem, don't worry about "noob" questions, but do put effort into googling first
[01:34] <egaudet> yea the other pvr 150 kept getting in the way of my google'ing, should have just found the proper mythtv wiki first, thanks
[01:35] <Guest88892> foxbuntu: yeah, I know....I can't tell from the wiki list which ones are closer to plug and play than others.  wish I knew more about it to be able to discern better.
[01:35] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, Im not quite sure what you are asking, but Capture cards do not read Encrypted QAM directly. You have to go through a Set-top-Box first or other "cable card enabled" device
[01:36] <Guest88892> foxbuntu...I expect to go through the box
[01:36] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, the haup. PVR-150 is highly supported and common
[01:37] <Guest88892> foxbuntu, I thought that one was just analog, I was going to get one to do ATSC QAM too...I guess I said that right...LOL
[01:37] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, if its an HDTV (not just digital) cable box, You will have a few options, clear QAM recording, HD-PVR External Tuner, Firewire
[01:38] <Guest88892> well I know firewire is out
[01:39] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, Clear QAM with the right tuner will work 100%, HD-PVR is experimental at this point, and Firewire is hit and miss depending on the Cable CO and area
[01:39] <Guest88892> i guess I will go with clear qam.  That's prolly what my tv uses now would be my guess
[01:41] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, Clear QAM HD channels are usually only a few channels, local channels are the common choice, if you have the lower 70-80 channels, thats "Digital" Cable
[01:42] <Guest88892> k...even if I run it through the cable box first?  I wouldnt expect the card to tune. my guess is that the settopbox would tune.  I am just not sure what comes out of it
[01:43] <tritium> Why have there been no daily builds the past two days?
[01:43] <foxbuntu> tritium, one is coming tonight
[01:43] <tritium> foxbuntu: ok, that will be good to try.  I haven't been able to get past the partitioner since 2/16
[01:43] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, you didnt mention you ran your tv through the cable box
[01:44] <foxbuntu> Guest24284, what connection options does yout cable box have?
[01:44] <foxbuntu> Guest88892 ^
[01:45] <Guest88892> foxbuntu...yeah...sorry...not sure what to ask or say...right now I have STB -> HDTV....I think I want STB->Mythtv->TV
[01:45] <Guest88892> hold on with the other
[01:45] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, yes, that is how myth works
[01:47] <Guest88892> STB outs: cable out, s-video out, component out....it also has a IR port and optical audio
[01:48] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, ok, I assume it also has composite audio out
[01:49] <Guest88892> rca out L R, RCA digital audio, and the optical audio
[01:50] <Guest88892> its a SA 3250 HD
[01:50] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, does it have a DB9 serial port?
[01:51] <Guest88892> no, it does have usb on the front, dvi in the back, and a IR port that looks like a headphone jack
[01:51] <Guest88892> i am not sure what is actually on though.... ;)
[01:53] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, ok, you will need an IR Blaster of some type, you will need a tuner that accepts s-video
[01:53] <Guest88892> cool...thats what i figured.
[01:53] <Guest88892> could I use one that uses 75ohms thick net?
[01:55] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, I havent heard anyone call RG6 that in a very long time
[01:55] <Guest88892> lol...sorry
[01:56] <Guest88892> networking  I understand.....cable services...not so much ;)
[01:56] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, no, you wont be able to get all your channels with that, you can use it for your clear QAM however
[01:57] <Guest88892> I guess I figured that for the tv to work, the STB would massage Shotime into a unencrypted qam for the tv
[01:57] <Guest88892> or use the ATSC
[02:01] <Guest88892> I guess I am mistaken
[02:02] <egaudet> I open mythtv and click watch TV but nothing happens
[02:08] <egaudet> n/m I was gonna ask something on top of that but realized my error.  BTW the avermedia just needed a cold boot
[02:15] <Guest88892> so how does the STB get Shotime or HBO to a TV via RG6?  wouldn't it have to unencrypt the stream so the tv's clear qam tuner could "see" it?  or does it convert it to analog over the RG6?
[02:21] <foxbuntu> Guest88892, they are seperate streams of video data...the digital channels are encoded so the STB has to read them
[02:21] <foxbuntu> Guest24284, encrypted QAM essentially
[02:33] <lenswipe> hey all
[02:33] <lenswipe> !help
[02:33] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[02:33] <lenswipe> !
[02:33] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about
[02:35] <egaudet> I have gotten video but I have no sound with pvr-150 card in mythtv
[02:40] <hads> That doesn't make a lot of sense
[02:53] <egaudet> bah I give up
[02:54] <hads> The PVR-150 encodes MPEG from the audio and video input so it should just work.
[02:55] <egaudet> that's what I thought
[02:55] <egaudet> but it's making me insane
[02:58] <rhpot1991> egaudet: have you tested sound with something else to make sure its not a system issue?
[02:58] <egaudet> yes
[02:58] <egaudet> rhpot1991, you mean just making sure my soundcard/speakers work
[02:59] <egaudet> interesting mplayer /dev/video0 sound doesn't work either
[03:01] <rhpot1991> egaudet: yep
[03:01] <egaudet> yea so I can play movies with sound, music, youtube etc...
[03:08] <egaudet> i guess i'll try to reboot
[03:12] <egaudet> well a reboot fixed it
[06:04] <pteague> it's fun when you finish installing 131% ...
[06:04] <rhpot1991> pteague: now with extra features :)
[06:24] <pteague> had to run dpkg manually to update settings before i could install anything with apt
[07:03] <Mike909> any idea how to send mythtv-frontend & mythtv-backend log messages to a remote syslog server?
[07:04] <Mike909> I see the "--logfile" option, but don't know how to have it send to a remote host.
[07:04] <superm1> Mike909, perhaps via netcat or saving the log via NFS
[07:06] <Mike909> yea, I guess i could just save the files to a share, but that sort of relies on another layer to be functioning for it to work.
[07:06] <Mike909> that said, if smbfs, or nfs is down...it  is likely the network is down in which case, no logging anyway.
[07:09] <Mike909> come to think of it, I would really like to have it log in the same fashion as a syslog facility...this way I have it both local and remote.
[07:09] <superm1> Mike909, i think nfs would probably be best.  if the network is down, at very worst you'll log locally
[07:10] <superm1> well logging for myth doesnt use syslog style logging though
[07:10] <superm1> then you are probably better just rsync'ing logs every so often
[07:11] <hads> Although NFS being down is good at bringing other things down
[07:12] <superm1> soft mounting
[07:13] <hads> Yeah
[07:14] <Mike909> if I had it logging to a share, and that share went down, would it still log locally?
[07:16] <hads> I wouldn't have thought so.
[07:16] <hads> hard mounts will put things into uninterruptible sleep, soft mounts will error after a while.
[07:16] <Mike909> yea, I wouldn't think so either...which sucks, cause if network layer goes out...I get no logging at all.
[07:23] <Mike909> thanks for the ideas. cya
[07:25] <hads> Oh. tail -f /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log | logger -t mythfrontend
[07:25] <hads> Too slow
[09:58] <pteague> crap, seems i have several package conflicts... is there a way to get an entire list of conflicts?
[10:06] <pteague> hmm...  i have conflicts on libapr1, libaprutil1, libdebconfclient0, libvncserver0, update-inted, & ntp ... removing them doesn't *seem* to hurt anything on a front end
[10:49] <pteague> anybody know what the name of the sound applet is in xubuntu? i can't seem to get it added to the panel
[18:29] <psicobra> hi guys i know my aerial isn't great so i am not getting all the channels from an automatic scan so i want to add them manually but where do i get the info from to fill in all the boxes?
[20:12] <darthanubis> Cron <root@core2duo> [ -x /etc/init.d/mythtv-status ] && /etc/init.d/mythtv-status reload > /dev/null
[20:12] <darthanubis> mv: cannot stat `/var/run/motd.new': No such file or directory
[20:13] <darthanubis> why is mythtv-status trying to write to a non-existent file?
[23:55] <olskolirc> how do I take the mythbuntu out of my selected sessions at the login screen?  I uninstalled mythbuntu-desktop and even the entry is still there