[11:40] <Tumie> PLANE CRASH IN THE NETHERLANDS
[11:40] <tyche> What happened?
[11:40] <Tumie> near amsterdam a plane crashed... it was a plane of "turkish airlines"...
[11:40] <Tumie> possible an engine faillure..
[11:41] <Tumie> in turkye they say their are no deaths.... but we in holland see here already "body packs"..
[11:41] <Tumie> at least 5 deaths... 10-20 survivors..
[11:42] <Tumie> 127 passagers in the plane... 7 crew..
[11:42] <Tumie> no explosions or fire
[11:43] <tyche> 5 deaths... 10-20 survivors... 127 passagers in the plane... 7 crew...  The figures don't add up.
[11:43] <tyche> Sounds like they're still searching.
[11:43] <Tumie> yes
[11:44] <Tumie> their are more than 20 ambulances ready.. 3 helicopters..
[11:44] <Tumie> CNN is showing it..
[11:45] <tyche> How long between the crash and the time the rescue workers showed up?  You're still in winter there, aren't you?
[11:45] <Tumie> it is winter here... the rescue workers where their very fast.....
[11:46] <tyche> The reason I asked was the probability of hypothermia.
[11:46] <Tumie> i know... but i'm serious right now XD
[11:47] <tyche> Oh, I don't doubt that.  This is a serious situation.  If they can't find the survivers in time, they freeze to death.
[11:47] <tyche> Being in shock, they're even more susceptable to that.
[11:48] <Tumie> it is not freezing ....
[11:49] <Tumie> and.. i don't think that their are more survivors
[11:50] <tyche> That extends the time, some.  But the problem is that in shock a person's core temperature can drop.  Add an outside temperature below the normal body temperature, and it's not good.
[11:56] <Tumie> I see people walking in the plane and walking out of it (ambulance crew) and i think they already checked everybody
[11:57] <tyche> Yea, I just read the BBC account.
[12:00] <Tumie> tyche: what is an "meeting for the press" in english??
[12:01] <Tumie> that all the press comes togheter and somebody tells news..
[12:01] <Tumie> pressconferance or something?
[12:02] <tyche> OH! . . . I know what you mean, and the term slips my mind.
[12:02] <Tumie> "press conference" ?
[12:02] <tyche> Yea!  Sorry.  Thanks.  Sometimes it's not good getting old.  :-)
[12:03] <Tumie> :P
[12:04] <Tumie> now their are ambulances..
[12:04] <Tumie> 3 with lights on
[12:04] <Tumie> how do you say that "holding an press conference" ??
[12:04] <tyche> NPR, BBC and Reuters are all saying that there were no deaths.
[12:04] <Tumie> because Turkish Airlines said that an hour ago
[12:05] <tyche> "holding a press conference".  Before a vowel, "a" becomes "an".
[12:06] <Tumie> ty :)
[12:07] <tyche> NP.  That's one of those things that even confuse English speaking people.
[12:08] <Tumie> we had it on school. but i still don't know the difference..
[12:09] <tyche> A lot of people get confused when initials are involved, as to whether one goes by the letter or by the sound of the letter.  Basically, "n" acts as a bridge between words where the initial sound of the following word in a vowel.
[12:09] <tyche> So . . . "a house" or "an opening"
[12:11] <Tumie> i understand :)
[12:11] <Tumie> a sunglasses,, an idiot
[12:11] <tyche> Yep.  Hee hee
[12:13] <Tumie> the press conference of "schiphol" (airport) starts at 12:30 GMT... that is in 17 minutes..
[12:22] <Tumie> in the dutch ubuntu chat, their is somebody who doesn't know if his parents where on the plane.. they should call when they arrived, but they still didn't call..
[12:33] <Tumie> press conference started
[12:55] <popey> johnc4510 / boredandblogging maybe for next uwn:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7910110.stm
[12:56] <Tumie> popey: nice
[14:00] <Tumie> in an hour another press conference
[21:54] <Tumie> i'm going to sleep. BYE ALL
[21:56] <johnc4510> popey: thx for the link :)
[22:18] <popey> np
[22:23] <johnc4510> :)