[00:29] <oh_noes> If i suspect I have a corrupted local apt-mirror
[00:29] <oh_noes> do I have to delete it and download he 26GB+ again?
[00:29] <jetsaredim> JanC: any particular reason for this on a non-"/" drive?
[00:29] <oh_noes> is there a command I can give to apt-mirror to do a crc/md5 against all files?
[00:32] <jmarsden> oh_noes: Not to apt-mirror, but you can use find and xargs and md5sum to construct one yourself... but I'm headed out the door... back soon I hope...
[00:32] <JanC> jetsaredim: I don't remember all the details (I read about it somewhere), but e.g. file system maintenance tasks (like fsck) might need that space
[00:32] <jetsaredim> fair enough
[00:33] <jetsaredim> seems a waste
[00:33] <JanC> jetsaredim: and it helps prevent fragmentation too
[00:33] <jetsaredim> 20G is a decent chunk
[00:33] <oh_noes> jmarsden: yep .. already in the middle of a find | xargs md5 .. but doing 50G is slow :)
[00:33] <oh_noes> I thought I'd ask while I wait.
[00:33] <JanC> that's why I said to make it smaller  ツ
[00:35] <jetsaredim> JanC: you don't know of any "rules of thumb" for that do you?
[00:35] <JanC> not really
[00:35] <jetsaredim> fair enough
[01:36] <techsupport> hi
[01:36] <orudie> how to change the ip address in apache2 server ?
[01:45] <orudie>  how do i change bound ip for apache2 in ubuntu 8.10 server
[01:51] <orudie> by default, where does apache2 bind ip ?
[01:55] <twb> orudie: probably somewhere in /etc/apache/
[02:12] <tsrk> What's the "virtual machine host" option when installing ubuntu?
[02:28] <twb> tsrk: ISTR kvm is the officially sanctioned way
[02:29] <tsrk> ISTR?
[02:30] <toxygen> hello, i would like to ask how is it with support of sparc64 in 8.04, should i upgrade from 6.06?
[02:31] <toxygen> there is not much info on the web
[03:16] <steelcityjim> is it possible to dial in remotely via ssh and view video files on your server
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> view video files located on the server? yes, theres a couple of ways you could try
[03:24] <steelcityjim> is there a windows application available
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> no idea.
[03:24] <steelcityjim> well im looking to be able to play movies from the server
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> we'll i'd mount it into my filesystem and play it like that ... but my OS supports sshfs ...
[03:26] <steelcityjim> im able to log in remotely using filezilla and download files
[03:26] <Yang1> has anyone heard of 2x application server?
[03:27] <steelcityjim> but instead of downloading them i would prefer to view them from the server
[03:27] <Yang1>  i am having some problems with parameters that im trying to pass and i was wondering if anyone would know
[03:27] <steelcityjim> what does the Fs mean
[03:27] <steelcityjim> file share?
[04:59] <ScottK> vorian: http://xana.scru.org/xana2/ranticore/oldbdbsqueeze/ <-- Debian libdb maintainer.  Not the list and maybe there's hope.
[05:16] <Myst> ok im having some problems with my IPtables... right now my server does not have internet access when i apply the rules... i am wondering if anyone knows what i need to set to ensure my server has internet
[05:17] <Nytrix> anyone, how do i save a specific program that is already installed so i wont have to config everything all over again for another pc?
[05:17] <Cyntek> Myst, hi!
[05:18] <Myst> hey
[05:21] <Cyntek> Im running ubu-server 8.10 and i have installed an additional NTFS HD as slave for extra-storage for my home-server, for File sharing accessibility. How can i get ubu-server to recognize the drive?
[05:24] <Nytrix> why have it as ntfs?
[05:25] <Cyntek> well, my family uses windows xp pro and they're going to be storing and file sharing.
[05:26] <hads> If you're sharing it over the network it doesn't need/want to be NTFS
[05:26] <Cyntek> im creating a Fiel Server for mainly Home Network for Media such as music and files.
[05:26] <Cyntek> Really.
[05:27] <Cyntek> i didn't know, just figured it would be so, since they are all running xp pro.
[05:27] <Cyntek> so xp can recognize the network hard drive.
[05:28] <Cyntek> So it does not have to an ntfs drive.
[05:28] <Cyntek> what would be the best option ?
[05:31] <Cyntek> format drive to ext3
[05:32] <Nytrix> try http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/
[05:32] <Nytrix> hopefully that helps
[05:32] <Nytrix> shows u how to do it through the terminal
[05:33] <Cyntek> Alright, but is best to keep it as ntfs file system or convert it to ext3
[05:35] <Nytrix> ext3
[05:36] <Nytrix> then use samba to share between the windows machines
[05:37] <Nytrix> or
[05:37] <Nytrix> is everyone using the same machine?
[05:37] <Nytrix> no right
[05:37] <Nytrix> ?
[05:37] <Cyntek> no.
[05:37] <Nytrix> the workstations are xp right?
[05:38] <Cyntek> each family members have there own computers.
[05:38] <Nytrix> ok i guess it's best to format it to ext3 then use samba to share files
[05:38] <Nytrix> !samba
[05:40] <Cyntek> alright, but is it best to keep it as ntfs or another file system, for this type of Server usage?
[05:43] <Nytrix> well it is a linux server so use ext3
[05:44] <Nytrix> since u cant seem to mount it, try to make it ext3
[05:45] <twb> Don't forget to mount NTFS filesystems with -t ntfs3g, *not* -t ntfs.
[05:48] <Cyntek> Nytrix, it is mounted.
[05:48] <Cyntek> im able to view it.
[05:48] <Cyntek> as ntfs
[05:48] <Nytrix> great
[05:48] <Nytrix> :)
[05:48] <Cyntek> thanx
[05:49] <Cyntek> when i run command: ls /dev/sdb5
[05:49] <Nytrix> you will still need samba i think to be able to share over a network
[05:49] <Cyntek> it shows up " yellow "
[05:49] <Cyntek> Yes, i can do that.
[05:51] <Cyntek> Nytrix, Thanks for the help
[05:53] <Nytrix> i tried
[05:53] <Nytrix> np
[05:55] <twb> Cyntek: device files are coloured yellow by default, to distinguish them from files.
[05:55] <twb> Cyntek: to look at the contents of the filesystem on /dev/sdb5, you need to call ls on the mountpoint (e.g. /media/data).
[05:56] <Cyntek> hmm.
[06:03] <Cyntek> Does this look right: http://rafb.net/p/sVC0Mq22.html
[08:03] <llragsll> I have an ubuntu gateway hare through which all traffic goes. I need a way to monitor the data transferred through this machine. any suggestions?
[08:08] <cemc> llragsll: ALL data?
[08:10] <llragsll> yes...
[08:10] <llragsll> I have been using munin to graph..ok..but it shows only the rate..
[08:10] <llragsll> I want the total data going in and out...
[08:11] <llragsll> any packages to do this?
[08:11] <cemc> ah, you mean a byte count ?
[08:11] <llragsll> yes
[08:12] <llragsll> a byte count...say the amount of data transfered every day..with a global counter showing the entire amount of data transfered.
[08:13] <llragsll> is there any packed doing this...I tht it would be something simple...l want the data tht is seen next to the n/w connection. data in/out
[08:14] <Titan8990> phpsysinfo will do it I think
[08:14] <Titan8990> let me check
[08:14] <cemc> I found one called darkstat
[08:14] <cemc> http://dmr.ath.cx/net/darkstat/
[08:15] <Titan8990> llragsll, nope only total transfer from time up
[08:15] <llragsll> hmm..ya..looks similar to munin
[08:16] <llragsll> Titan8990, at least till time up is better...
[08:16] <llragsll> but something persistent will be nice...there should be something definitely
[08:17] <Titan8990> well, if you already have apache + php you can check out phpsysinfo
[08:17] <Titan8990> if not, I would say its not worth setting up for that
[08:18] <llragsll> ya I got lighttpd/php...it's setup for munin.
[08:20] <llragsll> will bwm help
[08:20] <llragsll> i am going thru it...
[08:22] <cemc> if I recall correctly, bwm is some tiny monitoring software, like dstat, or iptraf
[08:22] <llragsll> hey great...bwm-ng is the package...."It shows total of in and out as well as total of all Interfaces. Several different output methods are supported (curses, plain, csv and html). "
[08:23] <llragsll> cemc,i guess iptraf will do to
[08:24] <llragsll> thxl\ guys
[08:53] <kraut> moin
[10:19] <_ruben> which part is supposed to take care of starting md raid volumes? i created 2 raid volumes using mdadm, rebooted the box, dont show up
[10:21] <cemc> _ruben: do you have a /etc/mdadm.conf file, or anything in it ?
[10:22] <_ruben> nope
[10:23] <_ruben> ah /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf .. had missed it at first
[10:24] <cemc> is there anything in it ?
[10:26] <_ruben> http://paste.ubuntu.com/122751/
[10:28] <cemc> and when you boot, there's nothing in /proc/mdstat?
[10:30] <_ruben> nope .. doesnt even exist as no raid modules get loaded .. tried adding ARRAY lines to that config (based on a mdadm scan), doesnt help
[10:45] <_ruben> hmm .. mdadm itself doesnt seem to autostart either .. strange
[10:47] <cemc> what release are you trying this on ?
[10:49] <_ruben> 8.10
[10:49] <_ruben> the "funny" part is, i have 2 nearly identical boxes .. one works as it should, the other doesnt
[10:54] <_ruben> hmm .. one difference, one's upgraded from 2.6.27-9-server kernel to -11 .. the working one was installed as -11 directly ..
[10:54]  * _ruben senses a reinstall coming up
[10:55] <cemc> ;)
[10:56] <cemc> do you have autoraid on the partitions ?
[10:56] <cemc> I mean the partition types
[10:57] <_ruben> yes
[11:05] <domas> holy crap, ubuntu just freaked me out
[11:05] <domas> I was typing vgcr[tab] and it completed to 'vgcreate', I pressed [tab] once more, and it filled in existing volume group name, I pressed [tab] and it filled in device in it
[11:05] <domas> this looked scary
[11:07] <cemc> _ruben: the only thing I found is in /etc/udev/rules.d/85-mdadm.rules for starting up RAID
[11:08] <cemc> domas: ubuntu iz smart :)
[11:10] <domas> cemc: well, it was stupid
[11:10] <_ruben> bashcompletion is kinda handy every now and then
[11:10] <domas> cemc: I was creating VG, so reusing old name didn't work :)
[11:10] <cemc> :))
[11:10] <domas> and... it picked a device that was in VG already, while there was another unassigned one
[11:11] <domas> but still
[11:11] <_ruben> cemc: adding "raid10" to /etc/initramfs/modules did the trick
[11:15] <cemc>  /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ?
[11:15] <_ruben> which i had tried before, but the /boot partition seems to not be properly mounted always
[11:15] <_ruben> uh, yeah
[11:15] <_ruben> memory doesnt have autocomplete :P
[11:15] <cemc> ;)
[11:18] <cemc> you added raid10 so it loads the module when booting up
[11:21] <_ruben> which isnt needed on the other node, there the mdadm hooks handled the inclusion of the raid10 module properly
[11:22] <cemc> hm
[11:36] <cemc> _ruben: maybe you should try adding the RAID device to /etc/fstab, remove the modules from the initramfs-tools/modules, and then update-initramfs, see what happens
[11:37] <_ruben> cemc: it isnt listed on /etc/fstab on either boxes .. as the md's are exported over iscsi
[11:37] <cemc> i see
[12:12] <incorrect> I am setting up a local mirror,  i noticed that if i mirror from a 64bit server i only get 64bit debs,   I would like to get both 32 and 64
[12:14] <soren> incorrect: How are you doing mirroring?
[12:15] <incorrect> apt-mirror
[12:16] <soren> Dunno then.
[12:20] <oCean_> incorrect: think you have to add arch in sources.list
[12:20] <incorrect> apt-mirror doesn't seem to use sources.list ?
[12:20] <oCean_> incorrect: sorry. mirror.list
[12:21] <oCean_> incorrect: hang on
[12:21] <incorrect> set arch ?
[12:21] <oCean_> like so I guess: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror#comment-3875
[12:22] <incorrect> thanks!!
[13:23] <subchee> hello all
[13:23] <subchee> I'm trying to install a webradio on my Ubuntu Server 8.10
[13:24] <soren> What's a "webradio"?
[13:24] <subchee> web streaming radio
[13:24] <subchee> I'd like to use Icecast2
[13:24] <subchee> my problem is that with Ices2 it can only play .ogg files
[13:25] <subchee> can somebody recommend something else instead of Ices2 to play .mp3 music?
[13:25] <domas> you know mp3 patent situation? :)
[13:25] <mac9416_2> Hello, gents. I want to set up a DNS server for my local network, but it occurred to me: why do DNs cost money if just anyone can set them up?
[13:26] <subchee> yes domas, I know :)
[13:27] <domas> subchee: so look for packages outside core repo
[13:27] <oCean_> mac9416_2: there's the cost of hardware, hosting and maintenance of course
[13:27] <domas> though according to package description, 'icecast2' package should stream mp3 properly :)
[13:27] <cemc> mac9416_2: maybe because it costs money to admin the server, to upgrade it now and then, to run in 24/7, the bandwidth, etc ;)
[13:27] <subchee> I've googled all the day to find a package instead of Ices2... but I couldn't :(
[13:28] <subchee> I was thinking about to use Shoutcast (sc_server + sc_trans) but it doesn't want to start... (glibc6 is installed)
[13:29] <mac9416_2> Hmmm. Yeah, now it doesn't seem so easy. OK, is there a really good instruction guide out ther efor setting up DNS? Any forum HowTo I find is very confusing.
[13:31] <mac9416_2> I"ve looked at books I like, but I really need a quick/free howto
[13:31] <oCean_> mac9416_2: seen this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093. Basic setup. Hardly confusing
[13:31] <domas> subchee: you can install compat libc
[13:31] <domas> subchee: then shoutcast will work :)
[13:34] <subchee> domas: you mean "libghc6-regex-compat-prof"?
[13:35] <domas> nope
[13:36] <subchee> sorry, "libc6" and "glibc-2.7-1" are installed... so what should I install? :)
[13:38] <domas> which is failed dependancy?
[13:40] <mac9416_2> Thanks oCean_
[13:41] <subchee> there is no failed dependancy... if I want to start sc_serv there is an error msg: ./sc_serv: There is no such file or directory.
[13:42] <subchee> the .log file and the .conf file is in the same directory and the user has the right to write into the .log file
[13:43] <domas> anyway, there's nothing wrong with vorbis!! :)
[13:43] <subchee> yeah, I know
[13:43] <subchee> but all my music is mp3
[13:43] <subchee> I don't want to spend days with converting them :)
[13:44] <cemc> subchee: how do you start sc_serv exactly?
[13:44] <subchee> just typing this: ./sc_serv
[13:44] <domas> subchee: you can always recompile icecast to support mp3 :)
[13:45] <subchee> domas: really? I didn't know about that... good news :)
[13:45] <cemc> subchee: what is 'ls -la sc_serv' saying ?
[13:45] <subchee> -rwxr-xr-x 1 14775 1687 137088 2007-02-28 21:17 sc_serv
[13:46] <subchee> sorry, I didn't use pastebin :(
[13:46] <cemc> np, one line won't kill anybody :)
[13:46] <cemc> did you tried with ./sc_serv file.conf ?
[13:46] <cemc> err... did you try*
[13:46] <subchee> yes, and the result is the same
[13:48] <domas> subchee: strange though, icecast2 package _should_ be able to play mp3
[14:02] <subchee> thank you everybody, bye-bye (apt-get install libc6-i386 solved the shoutcast problem)
[14:02] <cemc> subchee: have fun
[14:03] <cemc> turns out he was on 64 bit ;)
[14:57] <Cyntek> hello. i running ubuntu-server 8.10 and i have installed an additional ide hard drive as slave. I'm bit confused about how to add files or folders into that particular hard drive. How would i know if im moving files onto that hard drive and not the ubuntu-server hard drive?
[14:58] <kinnaz> Cyntek, you mount the driver to specific location after making filesystem do it if it doesnot have one
[14:58] <kinnaz> then you if you move files to that mountpoint
[14:58] <kinnaz> they will be on that new drive
[14:59] <Cyntek> kinnaz, when i run ls -l command it says this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-02-25 04:32 SeaGateBaracuda -> ../../sdb5
[15:01] <Cyntek> if im understanding you correctly, that says its pointing to that hard drive and will store my files to that specific hard drive and not the ubuntu home?
[15:03] <Cyntek> How can i view the files on that hard drive for verification ?
[15:07] <dmacnutt> where did you mount it?
[15:07] <dmacnutt> check there
[15:08] <kinnaz> Cyntek, mount /dev/sdb5 /data
[15:08] <kinnaz> cp /home/myuser/somedatadir/* /data
[15:08] <kinnaz> ah mkdir /data
[15:08] <kinnaz> at first
[15:10] <Cyntek> all i did was installed it internally thats it.
[15:10] <Cyntek> i figured ubuntu-server would recognize it and auto mount it.
[15:12] <Cyntek> http://rafb.net/p/yk3MFx29.html
[15:16] <_ruben> ubuntu-server doesnt do auto-mounting of new harddisks
[15:17] <Cyntek> oh.
[15:17] <Cyntek> so i have define it in MTAB
[15:17] <_ruben> no .. fstab .. but you'll need to partition and format it first before you can actually use it (as in: store data on it)
[15:20] <orudie-work> hi, i need help changing hostname , name of the computer
[15:21] <_ruben> only a handful of files in /etc/ hold the system's hostname .. edit those, reboot, done
[15:24] <orudie-work> reboot what ?
[15:24] <Cyntek> this hard drive will be for file sharing for window machines. what would be the best file system to use for Media files,
[15:25] <orudie-work> i set hostname in /etc/hostname and ip hostname in /etc/hosts
[15:25] <orudie-work> not sure what else
[15:30] <ogra> reboot
[16:04] <Cyntek> should there be swap space for an second hard drive?
[16:05] <sadiq_> how can I enable tab completion in a server ...I connect with ssh and I lack the autocomplete
[16:06] <cemc> Cyntek: you mean if you need to create a swap partition on the second drive? you don't
[16:06] <Cyntek> k, thanks
[16:06] <Cyntek> so i just need to create the file system and that's it.right.
[16:07] <cemc> sadiq_: it should work. what do you try to autocomplete with tab? what shell do you use when logged in with ssh ?
[16:07] <sadiq_> cemc I donno :(
[16:07] <cemc> Cyntek: you can create one big partition if you like, and create the file system on it
[16:08] <sadiq_> 8.04 ...should be bash right?
[16:08] <Cyntek> it's a 300 GB hd.
[16:08] <cemc> sadiq_: if you didn't change anything, then it should be bash, yea
[16:09] <cemc> and TAB doesn't do anything at all?
[16:09] <Cyntek> i want this hd to be accessible via windows machine's.
[16:09] <sadiq_> it uses spaces
[16:09] <sadiq_> like in normal text editors
[16:10] <cemc> sadiq_: try this: echo $SHELL
[16:11] <cemc> what does it say ?
[16:11] <sadiq_> nothing...it prints a newline
[16:11] <sadiq_> $ echo $shell
[16:11] <sadiq_> $
[16:11] <cemc> $SHELL, it's case sensitive
[16:12] <sadiq_> oh...sry
[16:12] <sadiq_> /bin/sh
[16:12] <Cyntek> thanks for the help guys
[16:13] <cemc> so you're using sh, and not bash. sh doesn't know autocomplete
[16:13] <sadiq_> ok...so how do I change to bash??
[16:13] <cemc> Cyntek: you can create one big partition, format it as ext3, and use samba
[16:13] <Cyntek> cemc, if i format to ext3...windows will read it?
[16:13] <Cyntek> and write to it.
[16:13] <cemc> nope
[16:14] <Cyntek> thats what i need.
[16:14] <cemc> then why put it in an ubuntu server? :)
[16:14] <Cyntek> this server is for home file server for sharing and accessing.
[16:15] <kinnaz> Cyntek, over samba windows client can read/write do it
[16:15] <cemc> you can format it as ext3, and then use samba to share it to other windows machines on the network
[16:15] <Cyntek> thank you .
[16:16] <cemc> sadiq_: try usermod -s /bin/bash <username>
[16:16] <sadiq_> usermod: unable to lock password file
[16:16] <sadiq_> sudo??
[16:16] <cemc> yep, with sudo, sorry
[16:16] <sadiq_> oh...the user is not in sudoers group
[16:16] <sadiq_> su ??
[16:17] <cemc> you need the root password for that i guess
[16:17] <sadiq_> I have that :)
[16:17] <cemc> then su -, and do the usermod as root
[16:19] <sadiq_> that line worked as root...
[16:19] <sadiq_> but still no autocompletion
[16:19] <cemc> now log in on another console,
[16:19] <cemc> and try it
[16:20] <sadiq_> oh..ok...that works :)
[16:20] <sadiq_> ty
[16:20] <sadiq_> any side effects from using bash instead of sh??
[16:21] <cemc> slightly more memory usage I guess
[16:22] <cemc> but apart from that I don't think so
[16:33] <ScottK> If you're logged in as a user that doesn't have sudo rights, su to the user that does and then sudo.
[16:54] <sadiq_> is root user available(as in I can log as root) in the server install???
[16:55] <ScottK> Not by default.  You can enable it, but you generally don't need to.
[16:56] <sadiq_> ok
[16:56] <Cyntek> i tried moving the files to the new hard drive in it's new directory i created but i got a error i think: andrew@Home:~$ cp /home/movies/* /dev/sdb1 /movies/* cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/action' cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/anime' cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/comedy' cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/drama' cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/horror' cp: omitting directory `/home/movies/Scifi' cp: can
[16:56] <Cyntek> not stat `/movies/lost+found/sdb1': Permission denied
[16:57] <Cyntek> what's the right way of doing it?
[16:59] <smoser> Cyntek, probably you wanted something like: cp -a /home/movies/* /movies
[16:59] <Cyntek> k, ill try that.
[17:00] <Cyntek> nope, that did not work.
[17:00] <Cyntek> im trying to move it from /dev/sda /home/movies to /dev/sdb1/movies.
[17:01] <kinnaz> Cyntek, use mc for file managment
[17:02] <Cyntek> what is mc?
[17:03] <Cyntek> Midnight Commander
[17:03] <kinnaz> yes
[17:04] <cemc> mortal combat
[17:04] <Cyntek> mortal combat....whoot
[17:05] <Cyntek> sudo apt-get install midnight commander
[17:05] <smoser> Cyntek, wherever you have /dev/sda mounted and /dev/sdb1 mounted is what you're interested in copying from and to
[17:05] <smoser> maybe i missed something, but you almost certainly dont want to actually copy /dev/sdaX or /dev/sdbX
[17:09] <Cyntek> http://rafb.net/p/1bNOzF81.html
[17:13] <Cyntek> woot, i finally did it.
[17:13] <Cyntek> man that took a while.
[17:14] <Cyntek> banging my head against wall, trying to figure what i was doing wrong.
[17:14] <Cyntek> forgot to set permission on the new Directory " /movies"
[17:14] <Cyntek> kept getting permission denied.
[17:15] <Cyntek> listen well learned.
[17:15] <Cyntek> lol
[19:56] <zim> hi all what is the best tool to encrypt a folder from command line (using 8.04 server)
[19:57] <cemc> archive-like encrypt or you want it to be usable ?
[19:58] <zim> can you tell me about both pro/cons if you dont mind
[19:58] <jmarsden> zim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[20:00] <zim> ty
[20:01] <jmarsden> No problem.
[20:45] <drbobb> hello
[20:46] <LHC> hey
[20:46] <drbobb> i was kinda surprised today to find that there exist 2.8GHz Xeon CPU's that don't support 64bit mode
[20:46] <LHC> did u weep
[20:47] <drbobb> not quite, but i needed to burn a 32bit ubuntu server cd
[20:48] <drbobb> btw which flag or whatever in /proc/cpuinfo tells you whether 64bit is supported or not?
[20:48] <LHC> haha the thing now with cds, I burn so many for no reason, cause I have a stack of 100 and there are still about 70 on it
[20:48] <LHC> not sure I come here to learn xD
[20:49] <drbobb> well i have several broked cd/dvd burners
[20:49] <drbobb> broken, even
[20:50] <drbobb> they tend to die right after the warranty expires
[20:50] <drbobb> especially those for laptops
[20:52] <LHC> thats a bitch xD
[20:52] <drbobb> oh and i had to abandon that old xeon box for the time being, i installed ubuntu but it turned out unbootable
[20:53] <drbobb> it seems grub has a problem with hdd's hung on addon controller cards
[20:55] <drbobb> btw has anyone tried grub2? is it ready to become the default any time soon?
[20:55] <Titan8990> drbobb, I have had no problems
[20:55] <Titan8990> drbobb, with my 3com RAID card
[20:55] <Titan8990> drbobb, are you sure your card is supported by linux kernel?
[20:55] <drbobb> Titan8990: i have no problems most of the time as well
[20:56] <drbobb> Titan8990: pretty much sure, i found a redhat9 running on that machine when i was given it
[20:56] <Titan8990> drbobb, what I did have a problem with, is drives not plugged into the discrete card would change drive letters, in the middle of doing something and it would cause massive i/o errors and crash the server
[20:56] <drbobb> drive letters?
[20:57] <Titan8990> drbobb, device names
[20:57] <Titan8990> drbobb, /dev/sda1 would become /dev/sdb1 in the middle of copying something....
[20:58] <Titan8990> drbobb, it may have been a problem with the board actually, because sometimes the BIOS didn't even read the extra hdds
[20:58] <drbobb> the installer saw mine as /dev/sda and had no problem setting it up with lvm, partitions & filesystems
[20:58] <drbobb> and it's the single hdd on the system
[20:59] <drbobb> now boot hangs on grub loading, or whatever the message is
[21:00] <drbobb> before any menu appears that is
[21:26] <redbluefish> I have 2 servers running 8.10, the hardware is different.  Server 1 crashes with moderate access to a cifs mounted file system, while server 2 doesn't have the problem.  I'm new to linux administration and I'm not sure how to troubleshot this situation.  Any ideas for a noob?
[21:26] <cemc> redbluefish: crashes like how? kernel panic, freeze, some error msg ?
[21:37] <JanC> drbobb: I _think_ you could look for the 'LM' flag to check if a system is 64-bits, but I'm not sure...
[21:46] <drbobb> JanC: thx that might be it
[21:47] <drbobb> (btw there really ought to be a `man cpuinfo')
[21:48] <Deeps> write it!
[21:48] <drbobb> Deeps: i have no clue
[21:49] <Deeps> :(
[21:49] <Deeps> get clue and then writ it!
[21:50] <Deeps> write*
[21:50] <Deeps> (i would, but it always seemed fairly self-explanitory to me, the bits that mattered to me at least)
[22:25] <mark> you know how much fun doing partitioning in the ubuntu installer is on a box with 48 disks, over a 9600bps serial connection?
[22:25] <mark> :)
[23:20] <Myst> Hey Everyone, i have just configured my server the way i want it and would like to back it up so that i do not have to redo any of the configurations if i have to upgrade the machine etc... is there a way of doing that without ghosting the hard drive?
[23:31] <agentk> Myst: If you want to track changes to /etc too then etckeeper is probabbly your answer. IMHO it is better only to backup changes to /etc, which etckeeper can track for you
[23:31] <goofey> Myst: that's a big question - what do you want to backup - files or the whole filesystem?
[23:32] <agentk> Myst: I havnt tried etckeeper yet though
[23:32] <agentk> Myst: I use backuppc for my server backups
[23:32] <tangentcollision> I need help getting my shoutcast server running, whenever I start it, it gives me this http://pastebin.ca/1347290 crap and I can't keep the process running
[23:33] <goofey> Myst: rsnapshot is also usefull for file backup
[23:33] <goofey> Myst: dd is my favorite for filesystem (partition) backup
[23:34] <Myst> basically i would like to be able to use the configuration file to configure the exact same server on different hardware should this hardware die...
[23:35] <Myst> i dont think the /etc copier program would work because i have a samba server running with shares elsewhere...
[23:36] <goofey> Myst: I think rsnapshot is what you want
[23:36] <goofey> Myst: you can specify what files to copy and at what intervals
[23:36] <goofey> Myst: and it keeps the directory structure intact on the files you do copy
[23:37] <Myst> ok so if i setup another server i can use the rsnapshot to bring it to the current config of the other server?
[23:37] <goofey> Myst: and it uses rsync and hard links on preserve space
[23:37] <goofey> well, rsnapshot maeks the backup
[23:37] <goofey> you restore the backup by hand i think
[23:37] <goofey> but that's not hard using rysnc
[23:38] <goofey> in this case, restoring to a differnet computer is all
[23:38] <goofey> rather than the original
[23:38] <Myst> sounds good ill take a look at it...
[23:39] <goofey> Myst: hope it helps
[23:39] <Myst> goofey, thx... if you have any websites that are good tutorials thatd help
[23:41] <goofey> Myst: this is what I used: http://www.rsnapshot.org/howto/
[23:42] <mgolisch> are there any crash dump features to be included in the comming release?