[00:01] <olskolirc> ~/.kde/share/wallpapers$ StR|Sangreal
[00:12] <kaddi> i keep having trouble with plasma on kde 4.2 everyting worked fine till yesterday, now i get the following message when i try to activate any desktop effect:
[00:12] <kaddi> Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values.
[00:12] <kaddi> Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type.
[00:13] <kaddi> i haven't changed anything in x configuration where should i start to check for changes?
[00:13] <SJr|Work>  Whenever I leave my X-session for a console then come back my console never re-appears I have to do a CTRL+ALT+BKSP to get myself all straigtened out.
[00:16]  * DaddyLonglegs can't update to KDE 4.2 :(
[00:17] <voglster> anyone have experience with setting up bluetooth audio in kubuntu?
[00:17] <StR|Sangreal> StR|Sangreal feels sorry for DaddyLonglegs :(
[00:17] <voglster> i dont know where to start and googling hast really helped much
[00:18] <kaddi> where do i ged the debugging symbols for kopete?
[00:20] <DaddyLonglegs> StR|Sangreal: Can you please help me update it? A couple of guys tried last night, but they didn't succeed.
[00:20] <StR|Sangreal> kubuntu intrepid?
[00:20] <DaddyLonglegs> Yes.
[00:21] <StR|Sangreal> were you recommended a website how to upgrade?
[00:21] <DaddyLonglegs> Yes. http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[00:21] <musical> Im experiencing a problem. Im using kubuntu 8.1. Dolphin and/or Konqueror have suddenly slowed to a crawl! Thunar works normally. Any ideas?
[00:22] <StR|Sangreal> followed?
[00:22] <DaddyLonglegs> Yes.
[00:22] <StR|Sangreal> and?
[00:22] <StR|Sangreal> no result?
[00:23] <DaddyLonglegs> Adept keeps saying "Failed" when trying to connect to PPA and some official repos.
[00:23] <StR|Sangreal> 1. sudo apt-get remove koffice-data-kde4 package kdeplasma-addons
[00:23] <DaddyLonglegs> Sure.
[00:23] <StR|Sangreal> 2 add repo and enable restricted
[00:23] <StR|Sangreal> and reccomended
[00:24] <replman> Hi! Someone here to help me getting sound of quake3arena working?
[00:24] <kaddi> !dev
[00:24] <kaddi> !bug
[00:25] <StR|Sangreal> and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:25] <DaddyLonglegs> StR|Sangreal: I tried that sudo command you just gave me. Nothing happened though.
[00:25] <kaddi> !traceback
[00:25] <StR|Sangreal> !silence | kaddi
[00:25] <replman> My problem is that if i have sound enabled and run a multiplayer-game it hangs
[00:25] <musical> DaddyLonglegs: see if kdebase workspace was installed...
[00:25] <replman> singleplayer works
[00:25] <musical> it doesnt always install during the upgrade and its key to 4.2
[00:26] <DaddyLonglegs> All kdebase packages are installed.
[00:26] <kaddi> StR|Sangreal if you dont have answers to my questions you could at least let me try the answers for myself.. this is supposed to be a help channel afaik
[00:26] <kaddi> +to find
[00:26] <musical> ok
[00:26] <StR|Sangreal> kaddi, was just a joke
[00:27] <StR|Sangreal> Daddy, use apt-get dist-upgrade and then restart x
[00:28] <StR|Sangreal> simple update is not enough, you need distupgrade
[00:28] <DaddyLonglegs> StR|Sangreal: I did it last night, but nothing happened.
[00:28] <StR|Sangreal> and if that doesnt work, i have no clue
[00:28] <StR|Sangreal> thats because the repository isnt listening
[00:28] <StR|Sangreal> you must have coppied it in a wrong way, misspellt or so
[00:29] <DaddyLonglegs> StR|Sangreal: I'm sure there's no misspelling in my repos.
[00:29] <StR|Sangreal> try that again, make sure its copied ok, with the word main at the end
[00:29] <DaddyLonglegs> Alright.
[00:29] <musical> you said that 4.4.2 Kdebase workspace is installed?
[00:29] <StR|Sangreal> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[00:31] <DaddyLonglegs> StR|Sangreal: This is how my sources.list looks like: http://pastebin.com/d497043cd
[00:31] <DaddyLonglegs> PPA repos are added at the end
[00:31] <musical> DaddyLonglegs: you said that 4.4.2 Kdebase workspace is installed?
[00:32] <DaddyLonglegs> Let me see, musical.
[00:32] <wildbat> anyone know y my lib button don't work before i suspend the machine to ram ?
[00:33] <DaddyLonglegs> musical: I have kdebase-workspace-bin 4:4.1.4 installed.
[00:33] <musical> ahh
[00:33] <DaddyLonglegs> I haven't updated to 4.2 yet, but I'd like to.
[00:33] <musical> did you update after you installed the ppa repository?
[00:34] <wildbat> any how do it make kubuntu read the sleep and hibernate button work on my laptop?
[00:34] <DaddyLonglegs> Adept fails to connect to PPA repo.
[00:34] <musical> I see
[00:34] <DaddyLonglegs> Yes, I did.
[00:34] <musical> try synaptic package manager
[00:34] <StR|Sangreal> hmm a good idea
[00:34] <StR|Sangreal> however the repo file is the same
[00:34] <DaddyLonglegs> I have to install it.
[00:34] <musical> shouldnt make a difference - but its better than adept, imho
[00:34] <StR|Sangreal> install gnome and all the stuff
[00:35] <StR|Sangreal> ubuntu-desktop is the package
[00:35] <DaddyLonglegs> No. Not gnome :(
[00:35]  * DaddyLonglegs hates gnome
[00:35] <musical> same here....lol
[00:35] <musical> dont like gnome!
[00:35] <StR|Sangreal> you can use them simultaneously and use kdm even on gnome
[00:35] <musical> true, but thats just bloat
[00:36] <DaddyLonglegs> So, you say that's my last option?
[00:36] <StR|Sangreal> i use kde for common household chores, windows for negotiations with customers (damned my company) and gnome if i code sth or make calculations...
[00:37] <StR|Sangreal> gnome is freaking stable
[00:37] <musical> does adept ask for the admin password when you open it?
[00:37] <StR|Sangreal> omg sure it does
[00:37] <DaddyLonglegs> It's ugly at the same time.
[00:37] <StR|Sangreal> it isnt ugly, it is only plain
[00:37] <musical> DaddyLonglegs:  does adept ask for the admin password when you open it?
[00:37] <DaddyLonglegs> Yes. It does.
[00:38] <musical> cant think why you cant use ppa repository
[00:38] <DaddyLonglegs> You know what?
[00:38] <DaddyLonglegs> I can ping PPA without any problems.
[00:39] <DaddyLonglegs> Adept cannot connect to PPA though.
[00:39] <DaddyLonglegs> That's really strange.
[00:39] <musical> is this ticked in your repostory list?
[00:39] <StR|Sangreal> then install ubuntu-desktop and use synaptic
[00:39] <DaddyLonglegs> Of course it is.
[00:39] <musical> you dont have to install ubuntu to use synaptic!
[00:39] <DaddyLonglegs> Would I be able to remove ubuntu-desktop afterwards?
[00:40] <musical> I use it all the time - in KDE
[00:40] <StR|Sangreal> lol
[00:40] <StR|Sangreal> its not recommended
[00:40] <StR|Sangreal> to remove destops
[00:40] <StR|Sangreal> then install just the package
[00:40] <musical> agreed
[00:40] <DaddyLonglegs> I can't stand it to be installed on my machine. I really hate it.
[00:40] <musical> just install synaptic
[00:41] <DaddyLonglegs> I'm trying
[00:41] <DaddyLonglegs> Man, it was already installed!
[00:41] <musical> ok
[00:41] <musical> try using that
[00:41] <StR|Sangreal> btw whats kubuntu 8042 about?
[00:41] <musical> PPA should be underthird party software
[00:42] <musical> with a tick
[00:43] <DaddyLonglegs> musical: Yes, it is.
[00:43] <DaddyLonglegs> Now what?
[00:44] <musical> install kdebase-workspace 4.4.2
[00:44] <musical> thats a start
[00:44] <musical> using synaptic
[00:44] <chairman> are they gonna have something like time machine for kubuntu?
[00:44] <DaddyLonglegs> So, don't I have to first remove kdebase-workspace 4.1.4?
[00:45] <musical> do you see 4.4.2?
[00:45] <musical> in synaptic?
[00:45] <DaddyLonglegs> It's too slow.
[00:46] <DaddyLonglegs> It says "downloading package information".
[00:47] <DaddyLonglegs> Who supports KDE?
[00:47] <musical> follow the instructions under http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[00:48] <StR|Sangreal> daddy, pls dont listen to musical
[00:48] <DaddyLonglegs> musical: I tried them all last night.
[00:48] <StR|Sangreal> i am afraid for you not to damage the system
[00:48] <musical> why not, StR|Sangreal?
[00:48] <StR|Sangreal> we are messing around, but we canot really solve your problem
[00:48] <DaddyLonglegs> :(
[00:48] <musical> whats wrong with following the instructions under that link?
[00:49] <StR|Sangreal> he has done that zillions of times
[00:49] <musical> ahh - i didnt know that
[00:49] <musical> but I dont accept that it will damage the system..lol
[00:49] <musical> unless youre trying to be sarcastic...:)
[00:50] <kaddi> is kde.org down? i can ping it just fine, but i can't reach it with firefox
[00:50] <Wargasmic> anyone here familiar with gigabyte mobos?
[00:50] <musical> I just went there, kaddi
[00:50]  * DaddyLonglegs wipes his tears.
[00:51] <kaddi> kk, must be something on my end then
[00:51] <StR|Sangreal> accessible from my opera
[00:51] <kaddi> kopete just deleted all my accounts AGAIN >:(
[00:51] <StR|Sangreal> use libgaim
[00:51] <kaddi> i get the feeling something is royally screwed ab hier
[00:51] <kaddi> *here
[00:51] <StR|Sangreal> hier?
[00:52]  * DaddyLonglegs is dreaming of KDE 4.2
[00:52] <StR|Sangreal> ist kaddi ein deutscher?
[00:52] <kaddi> niemals :p
[00:52] <StR|Sangreal> und wer denn?
[00:52] <kaddi> pm?
[00:52] <StR|Sangreal> ok :)
[00:53] <musical> DaddyLonglegs: did you add your package key?
[00:54] <DaddyLonglegs> musical: Yes. I did.
[00:54] <StR|Sangreal> its proceedable without key as well
[00:55] <musical> then I have no further idea....:(
[00:57]  * DaddyLonglegs watches KDE 4.2 videos on Youtube and wishes he could have KDE 4.2 installed on "leno" one day.
[00:58] <StR|Sangreal> Sanreal is really sorry for Daddy and wishes him better mood
[00:59] <chairman> does anybaady have flyback?
[00:59] <kaddi> Daddy don't be too sorry KDE 4.2 deleted all my plasma settings two days ago and since then kopete decided to erase all my accounts every 10 hours... i'm almost ready to step back down.. nothing but troubles
[01:00] <DaddyLonglegs> KDE 4.1 also has its own troubles.
[01:00] <DaddyLonglegs> This is Linux world.
[01:00] <kaddi> i know, but i found they were less damaging in my daytoday life
[01:00] <kaddi> :p
[01:00] <DaddyLonglegs> 4.1?
[01:02] <musical> well the one odd thing Ive found in kde 4.2 is that both dolphin and konqueror have suddenly started to run slow!
[01:02] <musical> Im using Thunar instead
[01:02] <StR|Sangreal> and i nautilus
[01:02] <kaddi> the troubles of 4.1, yes... i'm currently having some bad luck... everything is acting up and i haven't found out why... but basically every kde application does a complete revert to default values every day or so
[01:03] <DaddyLonglegs> Have they fixed tray's icons background to be transparent in 4.2?
[01:03] <kaddi> some of them, yes
[01:03] <StR|Sangreal> seit nicht bōse auf linux
[01:04] <musical> another thing is that kubuntu (intrepid) is only seeing 2.5G! It should see 3.2 - I have 4G installed!
[01:04] <kaddi> i'm going to reboot brb
[01:05] <StR|Sangreal> karmic would resolve that
[01:06] <musical> using lmsensors etc - Im seeing a sys temp of 86 degrees! Does anyone know what is sys temp? My CPU temp is 46
[01:06] <musical> evga mobo
[01:06] <StR|Sangreal> 86 Farenheit = 46 celsia or not?
[01:06] <musical> celsius
[01:07] <musical> 86 celsius
[01:07] <StR|Sangreal> hmm might be a hdd temp as well
[01:07] <musical> and that reading never varies...;p;
[01:08] <musical> its possible - except wher would the tehrmistors be?
[01:08] <musical> thermistors
[01:08] <musical> dont think its the hd
[01:08] <musical> mobo temp in bios seems normal
[01:09] <musical> chipset, maybe
[01:10]  * DaddyLonglegs decides to stick with KDE 4.1
[01:11] <musical> has anyone been successful in getting the Hauppauge HVR 1950 to work in mythtv?
[01:11] <musical> cat /proc/bus/usb/devices lists it
[01:11] <berpen> ls
[01:11] <musical> but blank in myth!
[01:16] <berpen> can someone direct me to an online resource on creating device drivers?
[01:16] <Moopies> Hello, when I go to shut down my computer I get "Unable to iterate IDE devices: no such file or directory "
[01:17] <Moopies> and it halts
[01:18] <Moopies> I am using Hardy , how would I go about fixing this ?
[01:29] <Silentstri> hey
[01:34] <wildbat> anyone know y my lib button don't work before i suspend the machine to ram ?
[01:34] <wildbat> any how do it make kubuntu read the sleep and hibernate button work on my laptop?
[01:36] <wildbat> 如何用SKIM在Konversation打中文?
[01:36] <wildbat> oops
[01:36] <wildbat> wrong channel
[01:45] <giovanny> Hola...
[01:45] <giovanny> Soy nuevo en K
[01:45] <StR|Sangreal> saludo
[01:46] <giovanny> Gracias
[02:03] <boboso> how do i make bash my default shell?
[02:04] <maco> boboso: set it in /etc/passwd
[02:05] <boboso> maco: i did r3db0x:x:1001:1001::/home/r3db0x:/bin/bash is that right?
[02:05] <maco> yes
[02:06] <boboso> wonder why its not working then
[02:06] <maco> how do you know it's not working?
[02:07] <maco> open a terminal and type "ps"
[02:07] <maco> it should say that only ps and bash are running in the terminal
[02:07] <jamesjedimaster> boboso: start a new session
[02:07] <boboso> ps and sh
[02:08] <maco> ah yeah you have to log out in between
[02:09] <boboso> so i have to log out of kde and come back in?
[02:09] <maco> es
[02:09] <maco> *yes
[02:09] <boboso> k
[02:09] <boboso>  ty
[02:22] <boboso> ty i have bash now
[02:33] <jordo2323> I run Gnome as my main Window Manager, but when I start KDE I get no sound. Sound works perfect in Gnome.. I have an audigy 2zs sound card, and it seems to be picked up in mixer....any ideas?
[02:35] <foxtro> hi
[02:35] <foxtro> hi?
[02:35] <foxtro> ¬¬
[02:36] <foxtro> any can helpme?
[02:36] <foxtro> :|
[02:37] <foxtro> why i cant burn the last kubuntu iso image
[02:37] <foxtro> ?
[02:39] <jordo2323> I run Gnome as my main Window Manager, but when I start KDE I get no sound. Sound works perfect in Gnome.. I have an audigy 2zs sound card, and it seems to be picked up in mixer....any ideas?
[02:51] <imbezol> when trying to upgrade to 4.2 i'm getting the following funness
[02:51] <imbezol>   kde: Depends: kdepim (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[02:52] <imbezol> i've removed everything in the system i can find that's kde related but still running into troubles
[03:16] <ilias> pour installer firefox?
[03:16] <ilias> je fait comment?
[03:16] <ilias> svp
[03:19] <paonline1> hello
[03:20] <paonline1> i need conect remote another pc or desktop
[03:21] <paonline1> i speak spanish
[03:21] <foxtro> paonline1, instala krdc
[03:21] <paonline1> lo tengo
[03:21] <foxtro> tonces?
[03:22] <paonline1> pero me trato de conectar y falla la clave
[03:22] <foxtro> a que maquina te estas conectando?
[03:22] <foxtro> un windows?
[03:23] <paonline1> a un deskt en mi propia red desde un laptop
[03:23] <paonline1> no ambos kubuntu
[03:23] <foxtro> ah
[03:24] <paonline1> no reconoce clave
[03:25] <paonline1> y
[03:25] <foxtro> que error especificamente te entrega?
[03:26] <paonline1> no covta error 9
[03:26] <paonline1> conecta error 9
[03:29] <paonline1> buenas noches
[03:29] <paonline1> gracias de todas maneras
[03:47] <jithine> xorg 70% cpu with desktop effects on kubuntu using kde 4.2? can any one help me foxong this out
[04:10] <sorteal> jithine : What cpu specs
[04:11] <jithine> sorteal: intel core 2 duo t7300 @ 2Ghz
[04:11] <jithine> sorteal: and intel 965 GM graphics chipset
[04:12] <sorteal> Well it's surely up to par.  Compiz-Fusion can be rather buggy though so I'd recommend turning the desktop effects off unless you need them or just want to show off to your Windows friends :)
[04:13] <jithine> sorteal: its not compiz its the desktop effects with kwin
[04:13] <sorteal> Or you could try messing with the compiz settings and only using the effects you want and turning off the ones you don't really need or want
[04:13] <sorteal> ah
[04:14] <sorteal> ok
[04:14] <sorteal> Wait the standard desktop effects in kubuntu are powered by compiz though
[04:15] <sorteal> have you tried adjusting the settings?
[04:17] <jithine> only settings i can see are that of some open gl vsync etc
[04:19] <jithine> i tried that .
[04:19] <jithine> this 70 % cpu by xork is not happening instantaneouly
[04:19] <sorteal> k are you using nvidia or ati drivers?
[04:19] <jithine> it starts at aroung 20-30 and at some later point jumps to 70
[04:19] <jithine> no i have intel graphics
[04:19] <sorteal> oh ok might have just been a process "hiccup"
[04:19] <jithine> but it happens always
[04:20] <sorteal> Sorry I wasn't more help
[04:20] <sorteal> Hmm if I find anything out about it I'll be sure and pass it along
[04:20] <sorteal> kde 4.2?
[04:20] <jithine> sorteal: thanks for listening me out.  u are the first one responded :)
[04:21] <jithine> yesy kde 4.2
[04:21] <sorteal> k I'll search around see what I can find
[04:21] <jithine> sorteal: ok
[04:26] <goofey> sorteal: it's no compiz in kde 4.2
[04:27] <sorteal> oh ok thx I thought it was based on the same code.  Glad you corrected me thx
[04:28] <goofey> sorteal: kwin's effects are written from scratch (IIRC)
[04:28] <sorteal> oh nice
[04:29] <DaemonFC> KWIN is more bloated
[04:29] <sorteal> I'm still not totally familiar with kde 4 just to much of a die hard 3.5 fan I guess :)
[04:29] <DaemonFC> top says it uses about 340 megs of RAM
[04:30] <sorteal> ouch
[04:31] <DaemonFC> hmmm
[04:31] <DaemonFC> forget Desktop Cube
[04:31] <DaemonFC> I've got Desktop Octagon B-)
[04:32] <sorteal> lol
[04:33] <DaemonFC> Now I have a Desktop Dodecahedron
[04:33] <DaemonFC> B-)
[04:33] <sorteal> Does 4.2 solve the multiple monitor problem when using nvidia or ati drivers?
[04:33] <DaemonFC> hasn't given me trouble
[04:34] <sorteal> nice
[04:34] <DaemonFC> hmmmm
[04:34] <DaemonFC> 20 virtual desktops
[04:34] <DaemonFC> is where it stops you
[04:35] <libolt> anyone know how to get Kopete to stop sending HTML tags to other messenger clients?
[04:41] <wildbat> anyone know y my lib button don't work before i suspend the machine to ram ?
[04:41] <wildbat> and how do it make kubuntu read the sleep and hibernate button work on my laptop?
[04:45] <g_> hey this thing said I was banned yesterday wtf?
[04:45] <g_> I havent been on this thing for months
[04:49] <ibuffy> how can you tell what version of kubuntu you are running from cli?
[04:50] <ibuffy> it's kde 4.2
[04:50] <ibuffy> err...
[04:50] <ibuffy> whoops
[04:50] <ibuffy> hmm
[04:50] <ibuffy> again, from the cli or any other means... but cli preferablly
[04:53] <goofey> ibuffy: i think apt-cache showpkg konqueror will work
[04:54] <slartibartfast> ibuffy find /etc/ -name *release*
[04:54] <slartibartfast> i thought there was a file about that ...... not sure
[04:54] <ibuffy> :4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 - www-browser man-browser info-browser
[04:54] <ibuffy> 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid2 - www-browser man-browser info-browser
[04:54] <ibuffy> 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu4 - www-browser man-browser info-browser
[04:54] <ibuffy> odd
[04:55] <dillinjah> is anyone real good with chmod?
[04:56] <slartibartfast> ibuffy i am now online with debian ... so need to check ... wait a moment :-)
[04:57] <ibuffy> so what version am i using o.O
[04:57] <ibuffy> 4.2.
[04:57] <ibuffy> 4.1.4
[04:57] <ibuffy> or ya know, 4.1.2
[04:57] <goofey> ibuffy: the easy way to find is go to konqueror -> help -> about kde
[04:57] <goofey> ibuffy: not sure how in cli
[04:58] <ibuffy> goofey: that shows what version of kde
[04:58] <ibuffy> ...
[04:58] <ibuffy> not kubuntu
[04:58] <slartibartfast> you seem to want to know the version of kde instead of kubuntu ....
[05:00] <goofey> ibuffy: oops - sorry
[05:00] <slartibartfast> what does "cat /etc/issue" say
[05:00] <dillinjah> does anyone know how to prevent a specific user account from having write access to a volume located on /media/sdb1
[05:00] <dillinjah> would I use chmod?
[05:02] <slartibartfast> ibuffy: for the distro version you also can use lsb_release -a
[05:02] <goofey> dillinjah: what's the owner:group of /media/sdb1?
[05:02] <dillinjah> root:root i believe
[05:03] <dillinjah> drwxrwxrwx 1 root      root 634880 2009-02-13 20:25 sdb1
[05:03] <dillinjah> thats whats listed when i do ls -l /media
[05:03] <goofey> ok, that's chmod 777
[05:03] <goofey> so, if we remove write for "all" that would be 766?
[05:03] <dillinjah> the thing is, I would like other users to be able to write to it
[05:03] <dillinjah> just not a specific user
[05:04] <goofey> dillinjah: not 776, 775
[05:04] <dillinjah> ok
[05:04] <goofey> create a group that everyone is part of but them
[05:05] <goofey> and then makde that dir that group
[05:05] <goofey> and use 775 to keep world from write access
[05:05] <dillinjah> ah
[05:05] <goofey> does that seem right?
[05:05] <dillinjah> thats what they pay you the big bucks for
[05:05] <dillinjah> yeah it does
[05:05] <goofey> :)
[05:06] <bonek1002> whoiii
[05:07] <bonek1002> kok sepi
[05:07] <dillinjah> so, i am trying to figureout what it would look like, lets say i created a group called nowrite
[05:07] <bonek1002> pada kemana aja
[05:07] <goofey> it should look like drwxrwxr x 1 root      nowrite 634880 2009-02-13 20:25 sdb when you're done
[05:09] <goofey> right?
[05:09] <goofey> chown root:nowrite and chmod 775 are the commands
[05:10] <dillinjah> ok, i am going to try that,there is no way that I could screw up the hard drive is there?
[05:11] <dillinjah> like make it impossible to read?
[05:11] <goofey> not with those 2 commands, no
[05:11] <goofey> the full commands are sudo chown root:nowrite /dev/sdb1 and sudo chmod 775 /dev/sdb1
[05:11] <dillinjah> nice....let me try this....
[05:11] <goofey> after you create the nowrite group
[05:14] <dillinjah> ok, makes more sense to name it writetodisk , cause the group will be able to write to the disk, the other user I dont add will not be able to...
[05:14] <dillinjah> lets run the commands and see what happens
[05:14] <goofey> gl
[05:21] <dillinjah> its weird. if i run the commands it doesnt show a change when i run ls -l
[05:21] <dillinjah> it does if I do it for dev/sdb1
[05:21] <dillinjah> but not for media/sdb1
[05:25] <dillinjah> so I ran
[05:25] <dillinjah> dillinjah@conang:/$ sudo chown root:writetodisk /media/sdb1
[05:25] <dillinjah> dillinjah@conang:/$ sudo chmod 775 /media/sdb1
[05:25] <dillinjah> dillinjah@conang:/$ ls -l /media
[05:28] <dillinjah> goofey you still there?
[05:31] <keith__> where can I get the most current source.list
[05:42] <slartibartfast> keith__: there is no such thing as most current source.list
[06:02] <bazhang> http://www.kubuntuguide.org/Intrepid#Manually_add_repositories keith__ here is a sample one you can tailor to your needs
[06:06] <DaemonFC> hmm, Ktorrent is not included in Kubuntu as of yesterday's daily build
[06:07] <DaemonFC> should I file a bug or is there something up with this?
[06:08] <bazhang> DaemonFC, jaunty?
[06:08] <DaemonFC> yeah
[06:08] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that
[06:08] <DaemonFC> the kubuntu-desktop package does not reference it
[06:09] <DaemonFC> I'm gonan file a bug
[06:10] <bazhang> wrong channel for jaunty discussion
[06:22] <mitancs> what wiould be the way to forward ip with two networking cards installed as eth0 to internet and eth1 goes to routher that makes wireless? Thank you.
[06:27] <slartibartfast> mitancs: that can be done with iptables rules ..... google search on iptables forward and you'll will find what you need to do
[06:36] <ibuffy> nice, thanks a lot slartibartfast
[06:37] <ibuffy> i was away for a bit, my bro IMed me needing help w/ a paper for school
[06:37] <ibuffy> anywho
[06:37] <ibuffy> http://bayimg.com/LaNjIaABM
[06:37] <ibuffy> notice how i don't have color options
[06:37] <ibuffy> this is a kde issue
[06:37] <ibuffy> oh right.. #kde-bugs
[06:39] <slartibartfast> Hmm ... i see that there are updates for you :-) ...
[06:48] <test1234> hey, I am using an old Dapper live CD in this computer, anyone know the default root password?
[06:49] <slartibartfast> test1234: there is no root password ... why you need that?
[06:50] <slartibartfast> for administrative things use sudo
[06:50] <test1234> slartibartfast: well i locked it by mistake, and to unlock it it wouldnt take blank password
[06:51] <slartibartfast> in a terminal you can do sudo -i to get a root shell
[06:51] <slartibartfast> a live cd is not writable so you can not change anything in its default behaviour
[06:52] <Omoikane_> How do you install adobe reader in ubuntu?
[06:52] <test1234> but if I pressed "Lock Session" by mistake, how do I unlock it?
[06:52] <test1234> I go to a terminal and open new session?
[06:53] <slartibartfast> lock session ? .... like the the X session ?
[06:54] <test1234> yes
[06:54] <slartibartfast> test1234: sorry no idea ... you have important programs open in that xsession? ..
[06:54] <test1234> no, not really :P
[06:54] <test1234> just curious
[06:55] <slartibartfast> otherwise i would say just restart
[06:56] <slartibartfast> killall Xorg in terminal ?  // or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart .. but it is not for unlocking
[06:56] <test1234> ok
[06:56] <test1234> thanks!
[07:01] <slartibartfast> test1234: But a livecd should not be for general computing i think. More just for testing purposes - see if you like the software.
[07:01] <slartibartfast> ah, already gone :-)
[07:05] <noaXess> good morning..
[07:07] <noaXess> is it really simple to configure syslog.conf like that: *.emerg my@email.com, so all emergencies will sent to a spec. email-adress?
[07:07] <slartibartfast> noaXess if you have a good working SMTP server, yes, i would think
[07:10] <noaXess> slartibartfast: okay.. then.. :) fine.. thanks
[07:12] <anil_kumar> hi...can anyone tell me how to add a user to the sudoers file
[07:13] <slartibartfast> anil_kumar: edit the sudoers file with 'sudo vimsudo'
[07:13] <slartibartfast> sorry
[07:13] <slartibartfast> visudo
[07:14] <anil_kumar> ok...but i dont know the construct of the file
[07:14] <maco> man 5 sudoers
[07:14] <anil_kumar> where do i add the user's name
[07:14] <anil_kumar> ok...
[07:14] <anil_kumar> i'll try man...
[07:14] <maco> i could try to answer, but id just be quoting the manpage at you anyway....
[07:21] <v6lur> hi. when trying to send a note to another kubuntu machine on lan, knotes says: "Communication error: connection actively refused"
[07:22] <v6lur> how can i send the note?
[07:22] <v6lur> (kubuntu 8.04, kde 3.5.10)
[07:25] <noaXess> what need i restart if i change /etc/syslog.conf?
[07:26] <noaXess> /etc/init.d/sysklogd?
[07:26] <noaXess> why is it named sysklogd? with the 'k'
[08:20] <heinkel_111> !java
[08:36] <benny> can somebody urgently update http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 ?
[08:36] <benny> following that guide breaks upgrade from 8.10 as kde base moved to backports instead of ppa
[08:37] <benny> or change the main page to no longer link to that page
[08:39] <chairman> does anyone have stacks or awn for that matter?
[08:42] <sandGorgon> benny: i still have ppa in my sources.list - should I change it ?
[08:43] <benny> sandGorgon: don't know, normally things don't downgrade, so you should be save.
[08:43] <benny> I think the problem is only for people installing 8.10 then following the guide
[08:45] <benny> I'll talk on kubuntu-devel and see what they say
[08:58] <benny> for those interested, a new news item should be forthcoming to change the site with the new way to
[08:58] <benny> upgrade to 4.2
[09:29] <DaddyLonglegs> I'm running Intrepid on KDE 4.1 and gonna upgrade to KDE 4.2. I followed the instructions on kubuntu website, but it failed to fetch updates. Here is the output from "apt-get update": http://pastebin.com/de0e2401 Can anybody please see if there is anything wrong with that?
[09:33] <chairman> i got STACKS!!!!
[09:45] <chairman> does anybody know how i can get Flyback?
[09:48] <vlt> Hello. I removed an RSS feed subscription from Akregator. When I re-add it as a new entry, all the old articles are shown (and articles I previously removed are still missing). How can I clear the feed cache for this subscription?
[09:59] <Guest51149> hi
[10:01] <Guest93213> hi
[10:13] <ChaosR> Hello, I have a problem with desktop effects, for some reason when I enable them all my videos stutter, and while playing videos I see short, but huge drops in FPS a lot. I have kubuntu 8.10 with KDE4.2 and a NVidia 8600GT. Is this solveable or should I just disable effects?
[10:19] <chairman> what abbbout flyback?
[10:19] <chairman> about
[10:24] <MaGicKanGaRoo> Daddy Long legs you there?
[10:25] <MaGicKanGaRoo> it looks like you havent got hte experimental repo's in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:25] <MaGicKanGaRoo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[10:25] <MaGicKanGaRoo> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[10:27] <carpii> is there a command line tool that will interrogate kde's inferred MIME association for a given file?
[10:27] <heinkel_111> is the icedtea6-plugin supposed to work with konqueror in kubuntu 8.10?
[10:27] <heinkel_111> I can't find a java plugin...
[10:28] <heinkel_111> !javaplugin
[10:32] <heinkel_111> anyone know how I can locate the icedtea6-plugin?
[10:36] <MaGicKanGaRoo> heinkel it seems to be in jaunty
[10:36] <MaGicKanGaRoo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/lpia/icedtea6-plugin/6b14-0ubuntu12
[10:37] <heinkel_111> well that will take another few months :)
[10:38] <MaGicKanGaRoo> yes but you can download the deb on the page ...
[10:38] <heinkel_111> I have installed the plugin in 8.10 with sudo apt-get install, but konqueror does not appear to recognize it (not in the list of plugins)
[10:39] <heinkel_111> so I think the files are in some weird location I will need to point at?
[10:40] <MaGicKanGaRoo> have a look at where the files were installed?
[10:40] <heinkel_111> yes, I guess it is not in the list of locations that konqueror looks for plugins?
[10:41] <MaGicKanGaRoo> maybe
[10:41] <MaGicKanGaRoo> have you tried to dpkg-reconfigure it?
[10:41] <heinkel_111> no
[10:41] <MaGicKanGaRoo> might be worth a go
[10:42] <MaGicKanGaRoo> brb desktop broke :S damn fiddling
[10:44] <MaGicKanGaRoo> did the dpkg-reconfigure help?
[10:45] <heinkel_111> haven't tried, how do I do it?
[10:45] <MaGicKanGaRoo> in konsole
[10:45] <MaGicKanGaRoo> dpkg-reconfigure package name
[10:46] <heinkel_111> with sudo?
[10:46] <MaGicKanGaRoo> yes sorry
[10:46] <heinkel_111> no
[10:47] <MaGicKanGaRoo> whats the package name again sorry?
[10:47] <heinkel_111> the only plugin I et is flashplugin-alternative-so and kaffeineplugin.so
[10:47] <heinkel_111> I get
[10:47] <heinkel_111> icedtea6-plugin
[10:48] <MaGicKanGaRoo> apt-file list icedtea6-plugin
[10:48] <MaGicKanGaRoo> "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so"
[10:48] <MaGicKanGaRoo> is i think the actual plugin
[10:48] <MaGicKanGaRoo> so try
[10:49] <MaGicKanGaRoo> konquor -> settings configure
[10:49] <MaGicKanGaRoo> then plugins
[10:49] <MaGicKanGaRoo> plugins tab
[10:49] <MaGicKanGaRoo> new
[10:49] <MaGicKanGaRoo> and add the folder /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/I
[10:49] <MaGicKanGaRoo> sorry /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/
[10:50] <prodigel> hi all. I'm having real problems using kde 4 with it's new plasmoid thing, and I want to revert to the previous kde version.
[10:50] <heinkel_111> MaGicKanGaRoo: what was the correct apt command lo list the files again?
[10:50] <MaGicKanGaRoo> mine picked up on the flashplugin-alternative i have though in /usr/lig/firefox/plugins/
[10:50] <heinkel_111> to list the files
[10:50] <MaGicKanGaRoo> apt-file list icedtea6-plugin
[10:50] <MaGicKanGaRoo> you need apt-file if you dont have it already
[10:51] <MaGicKanGaRoo> its not installed by default
[10:51] <MaGicKanGaRoo> so apt-get install apt-file
[10:51] <MaGicKanGaRoo> then apt-file update
[10:51] <MaGicKanGaRoo> its usefull for finding specific files its a bit more specific that apt-cache
[10:51] <heinkel_111> :-)
[10:51] <heinkel_111> installing apt-file
[10:53] <heinkel_111> the correct path for me is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/amd64/
[10:53] <MaGicKanGaRoo> ok cool
[10:53] <bonek1002> muleh
[10:53] <heinkel_111> MaGicKanGaRoo: - but it still doesn't work :(
[10:53] <heinkel_111> thank you anyhow
[10:53] <MaGicKanGaRoo> prodigel
[10:54] <prodigel> MaGicKanGaRoo, ?
[10:54] <MaGicKanGaRoo> you should just be able to install kde3
[10:54] <MaGicKanGaRoo> what version of ubuntu are you runing?
[10:54] <MaGicKanGaRoo> ibex?
[10:55] <prodigel> MaGicKanGaRoo, i don't know. it's with plasmoids, 4 something
[10:55] <prodigel> MaGicKanGaRoo, intrepid
[10:55] <MaGicKanGaRoo> theres a thread on it here but i think there are offical repos to install kde 3
[10:55] <MaGicKanGaRoo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[10:55] <MaGicKanGaRoo> heinkel, did you add that into the plugin list in konq?
[10:56] <prodigel> MaGicKanGaRoo, thanks, I'll take a read
[11:03] <MaGicKanGaRoo> prodigel
[11:03] <prodigel> MaGicKanGaRoo, yes
[11:03] <MaGicKanGaRoo> i think you can install with the kde-core package
[11:03] <MaGicKanGaRoo> you should then be able to select which one you want to use in the kdm
[11:04] <prodigel> MaGicKanGaRoo, I'm waiting for ubuntu-desktop to finish. I hope gnome will work well(no offense ment to the channel)
[11:04] <prodigel> MaGicKanGaRoo, brb
[11:06] <yoritomo> hello all
[11:06] <yoritomo> i would like to edit a BIN,CUE image, which one is the best soft ?
[11:07] <vlt> Hello. I removed an RSS feed subscription from Akregator. When I re-add it as a new entry, all the old articles are shown (and articles I previously removed are still missing). How can I clear the feed cache for this subscription?
[11:08] <mefisto__> hi. what is the difference between the desktop kernel installed in k/ubuntu desktop and the server kernel? as I understand it, the server kernel supports PAE (can access more than 4GB ram). are there any disadvantages to using the server kernel in a desktop system? why isn't PAE enabled in all the ubuntu kernels?
[11:11] <hansen> mefisto__: just use a 64bit kernel instead
[11:12] <mefisto__> hansen: can I download a 64bit processor to go with that?
[11:12] <hansen> oh, you're one of the few who has an old CPU but lots of RAM.
[11:12] <mefisto__> hansen: my question is about desktop vs server kernels, not 32bit vs 64bit
[11:13] <yoritomo> nobody edit cd's images here?
[11:13] <mefisto__> hansen: plenty of people have old CPUs
[11:13] <hansen> I have a bunch of servers running ubuntu. The only noticable difference is that they use lilo instead of grub for some reason, and that the kernels have "server" in the name
[11:14] <mefisto__> hansen: I'm assuming the difference is more than just the name, otherwise the same kernel would be used, surely
[11:15] <hansen> btw, maybe stupid question: I get mail about secutiry updates for ubuntu thru
[11:15] <hansen> ubuntu-security-announce
[11:15] <hansen> is there something for all the other updates too?
[11:15] <bazhang> !lists
[11:15] <bazhang> hansen, check above
[11:15] <hansen> I'm kind of curious to know what the weekly updates of most of KDE is good for for example :)
[11:18] <hansen> looks like the Intrepid-changes list if what I want
[11:18] <hansen> thanks
[11:19] <mefisto__> yoritomo: you might be able to convert it to an ISO image with k3b. I'm not sure, but I think k3b can open them. if so, just save as ISO instead of burning
[11:20] <humpback> Hello all. In Jaunty what is the correct way to configure networking? I installed yesterday from CD and manually started knetworkmanager. I then configured my wireless and it was working. I updated the system and now I can only have networking using cable. And knetworkmanager will never auto-start.
[11:20] <bazhang> humpback, #ubuntu+1 for jaunty discussion
[11:21] <humpback> bazhang: thanks
[11:21] <yoritomo> mefisto i was no able to open the image for edition with k3b
[11:21] <hansen> mefisto__: of course there any many systems running with older CPUs. What I meant is that probably very few of them have >4GB RAM. But nice that the kernel supports that.
[11:21] <yoritomo> it is a windows bin, no mather ?
[11:23] <mefisto__> yoritomo: I don't think so. it's just a disk image as far as I know and OS shouldn't be important
[11:23] <mefisto__> yoritomo: you mean the image was created in windows, right?
[11:24] <yoritomo> yes
[11:24] <yoritomo> looks like notcompatible on k3b and isomaster
[11:24] <yoritomo> so strange
[11:25] <ghostcube> yoritomo: shouldnt matter where it was build
[11:25] <eomer> saludos
[11:26] <passaris> help!
[11:26] <passaris> can help me
[11:26] <passaris> smb
[11:27] <yoritomo> mefisto__ ghostcube when i browse it on isomaster it is no action on cue or bin when clicking
[11:27] <ghostcube> have u tried acetone iso
[11:27] <passaris> i have a error, when start linux ...can start face tool etc...
[11:28] <mefisto__> yoritomo: in my k3b, if I go to Tools menu, burn CD image, then the open dialog, the filter menu where it says "Image Files" says CUE files
[11:28] <yoritomo> not yet, i did not find directly in package then first i tryed the ones i had
[11:29] <passaris> yoritomo:
[11:29] <EagleScreen> hi, is there any ppa to install Qt4.5 in Kubuntu Intrepid?
[11:30] <yoritomo> k3b is frozen i will try to kill the app
[11:30] <EagleScreen> try 'killall k3b'
[11:32] <yoritomo> re
[11:35] <passaris> can help me smb
[11:35] <passaris> pls i have a big error
[11:35] <yoritomo> the cue is enlighted too, but can't edit
[11:35] <bazhang> passaris, ask a question
[11:36] <passaris> 	
[11:36] <passaris> when I start unbutu appears on startup an error like this:
[11:36] <bazhang> passaris, ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:37] <passaris> fence_roo : waitin gor cman to start
[11:37] <passaris> unable to connect to cluster
[11:37] <passaris> fence_tool : waiting for cman to start
[11:37] <passaris> this
[11:38] <passaris> cman_admin_init error 2
[11:38] <bazhang> passaris, what are you trying to accomplish
[11:38] <passaris> daemon
[11:39] <bazhang> passaris, explain your issue, in greater detail, all on one line.
[11:39] <lab> hi all
[11:43] <passaris> I installed a lot of application programs, add remove, after I gave everything wrong reboot, then this error started thousand when buteaza linxu: starting daemons: groupd fanced .... etc. .. cman_admin_init error 2; fance_tool: waiting for cman to start, unable to connect to cluster
[11:43] <passaris> Română
[11:43] <passaris>  
[11:43] <passaris> >
[11:43] <passaris> Engleză
[11:43] <passaris>  
[11:43] <passaris> inversaţi
[11:43] <passaris> Traduceţi
[11:43] <passaris> 		
[11:43] <bazhang> passaris, stop
[11:43] <mefisto__> yoritomo: installing bchunk will let you convert bin/cue to iso image, then you can easily work with the iso
[11:43] <passaris> sorry
[11:43] <bazhang> passaris, paste.ubuntu.com
[11:44] <adn_> hi everybd :D
[11:49] <carpii> is there a command line tool that will interrogate kde's inferred MIME association for a given file?
[11:53] <mefisto__> carpii: "interrogate kde's inferred MIME association" ?  can you explain that further?
[11:56] <floh> Hi, kennt hier jemand mit aptitude/apt-get etc. aus? Ich habe folgende Problem: Bei der Installation von mysql erscheint dann ein Dialog, wo man die root-Passwort für MySQL eingeben muß.
[11:56] <floh> An sich ist das korrekt. Allerdings muß bei mir die Installation automatisch erfolgen (ohne eingabe von der Passwort).
[11:56] <mefisto__> !de | floh
[11:57] <floh> Oh... this is English spoken channel?
[11:57] <floh> I'm sorry!
[11:57] <floh> I'll tranlate. :D
[11:57] <mefisto__> floh: no problem
[11:57] <adn_> #channels
[11:59] <floh> Hi, do anyone know aptitude/apt-get etc.? I've got following problem: While installing mysql aptitude shows a display, which the user should enter new password for mysql (for root). How can I surpress such dialog, so the install runs automatically (unattended)?
[11:59] <yoritomo> mefisto__ bchunk is only commandlines?
[11:59] <mefisto__> yoritomo: yes, but it's easy to use
[12:00] <mefisto__> yoritomo: install it, then do: man bchunk
[12:02] <mefisto__> yoritomo: or you could burn the bin/cue image to CD with k3b (it won't save as ISO like I said), then copy the files to hard disk and make a new disk image
[12:03] <yoritomo> yes bu my purpose is to add some files inside the image before burning
 <image.cue> <basename> what is basename ? my target iso file?
[12:05] <larsaam> Hi! Anyone know how to store the pinentry key password in kwallet?
[12:07] <mefisto__> yoritomo: yes. see here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-bincue-files-to-iso-in-ubuntu.html
[12:09] <yoritomo> i made my iso image, and seems like i can edit in isomaster, it looks nice thanks
[12:11] <yoritomo> thanks very much mefisto__ then i will keep in mind bchunk and isomaster :)
[12:11] <mefisto__> yoritomo: glad it worked out for you :)
[12:13] <koperton> kde4 sucks kde3 rocks
[12:13] <koperton> xD
[12:14] <mefisto__> koperton: but kde4 will one day rock harder :)
[12:15] <koperton> mefisto__: one day xD btw i have tried 4.2 i prefer kde3
[12:15] <mefisto__> koperton: me too
[12:16] <koperton> mefisto__: well i am going to create Nwc service menu for konqueror now :)
[12:17] <mefisto__> koperton: what's Nwc ?
[12:17] <koperton> mefisto__: it's my universal mencoder ffmpeg ffmpeg2theora gui
[12:17] <koperton> youtube-dl , mm photo converter and slideshow
[12:17] <koperton> xD
[12:18] <koperton> mefisto__: it's this http://www.nowardev.netsons.org/?q=node/7
[12:24] <larsaam> Hi, I'll try to refrase, how to make kwallet remember kmail gpg key?
[12:46] <mefisto__> koperton: looks interesting. how well does it work at this stage? and have you tested the "ubuntuinstaller" on hardy? intrepid?
[12:46] <koperton> mefisto__: it's working very fine on hardy, on intrepid you have to pay attention for ffmpeg version
[12:47] <koperton> mefisto__: but it's on developing so... i need of time
[13:19] <zumbi> !hi
[13:19] <zumbi> i want to install kde 4.2
[13:20] <zumbi> i am following the topic guide
[13:20] <zumbi> when removing plasma libs it also removed kubuntu package
[13:21] <zumbi> is it ok to just dist-upgrade the system to get kde 4.2 with the right repos?
[13:25] <giarca> zumbi: after put the kubuntu-experimental repo in your list
[13:25] <giarca> you have only to get a simple update - upgrade
[13:25] <giarca> and the 4.2 raise up
[13:26] <giarca> a lot of package of KDE4.2 raise now from intrepid-backport, check if you have enable it
[13:26] <zumbi> giarca: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid ???
[13:27] <zumbi> ??? = kubuntu-experimental ?
[13:27] <zumbi> should i just s/intrepid/intrepid-backport?
[13:27] <giarca> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[13:27] <zumbi> for not familiar with this repos
[13:28] <giarca> read the official news and then I think you can only go with intrepid-backports
[13:28] <zumbi> giarca: i already read that, but it does not say about where are the repos
[13:29] <giarca> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[13:29] <zumbi> thanks
[13:29] <giarca> is intrepid backports
[13:29] <giarca> and
[13:29] <giarca> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/ intrepid main
[13:29] <giarca> is ppa repo
[13:30] <zumbi> !ppa
[13:30] <giarca> I enable either but you can try only with intrepid-backports
[13:30] <zumbi> giarca: should i disbale the rest of repos?
[13:30] <giarca> no
[13:31] <giarca> absolutely not
[13:31] <giarca> you can simply add
[13:31] <zumbi> ok - thanks, i am just updating now
[13:32] <giarca> zumbi: perfect
[13:49] <zumbi> kdebase-runtime 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid2 :)
[13:51] <giarca> zumbi: installed?
[13:55] <zumbi> giarca: not yet
[13:55] <zumbi> still downloading
[13:56] <giarca> :)
[13:56] <giarca> ok
[13:56] <giarca> ah have you disabled all plasmoid?
[13:56] <giarca> disable all before upgrade , i forgot to tell you ;)
[13:59] <alkisg_> Using kubuntu 9.04, I see kdm, I login, and then I get a blank screen. X runs ok though; I can use XAUTHORITY/IDSPLAY to launch programs on this blank screen. So something is not running, what would that be? kdeinit?
[14:00] <alkisg_> E.g. now I run quassel, but I don't have the panels or the background etc.
[14:01] <zumbi> giarca: i remove --purge all plasma stuff i found
[14:01] <giarca> !jaunty
[14:01] <giarca> zumbi: you're perfect! :)
[14:02] <alkisg_> giarca, if that was for me, I don't think it's a jaunty specific problem, it's a user (=me) misconfiguration... I just don't know when/what I tinkered. :(
[14:02] <zumbi> giarca: i wish :) you & others are the ones making this possible
[14:02] <giarca> ops alkisg_, yes it was for you, I forgot | nick :P
[14:03] <giarca> alkisg_: I told you to try in specific channel because it's possible that januty has different base setting or routine much different from intrepid...
[14:05] <alkisg_> giarca: thanks, I'll try there... :)
[14:05] <giarca> alkisg_: and then you can try here! :D
[14:06] <alkisg_> giarca: I think a simple `ps -ef` from someone else running kubuntu would help me see what am I missing...
[14:12] <zumbi> giarca: should i install intrepid-backports/main kdebase-plasma 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 and friends ?
[14:13] <zumbi> i guess so
[14:13] <giarca> zumbi: so do I
[14:24] <XPS_M1330> what's the simplest way to install Kubuntu from Ubuntu?
[14:24] <giarca> synaptic I think
[14:24] <XPS_M1330> I bet
[14:24] <MaGicKanGaRoo> apt-get install kubunt-desktop
[14:25] <MaGicKanGaRoo> *kubuntu-desktop
[14:25] <giarca> LOL you're right, withthe
[14:25] <XPS_M1330> it's just that in Mandriva there's a megapackage that contains the latest versions of everything you need, I figured there would be something like that
[14:25] <XPS_M1330> kubuntu-desktop package? thanksQ!
[14:25] <giarca> MaGicKanGaRoo: exactly what i was writing
[14:25] <MaGicKanGaRoo> sorry to pip you to it :)
[14:25] <giarca> yeah XPS_M1330that package
[14:25] <MaGicKanGaRoo> yeah its a metapackage that installs all your bits and bobs
[14:27] <XPS_M1330> once I have both DE installed, will me menus all be flooded with both base gnome apps and kde apps?
[14:27] <MaGicKanGaRoo> kde4 has quite a good menu system, kickstart iirc, so shouldnt be to flooded
[14:27] <MaGicKanGaRoo> gnome when i used to have it was a bit flooded yes
[14:28] <MaGicKanGaRoo> on the plus side it will encourage you to launch more via alt f2 :)
[14:28] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:28] <XPS_M1330> right!
[14:29] <XPS_M1330> anyway most apps I open regularly have a launch button on the top panel
[14:29] <XPS_M1330> what's the best documentation page out there, say, that's got all the basic commands and explains stuff?
[14:30] <MaGicKanGaRoo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ is pretty good
[14:30] <XPS_M1330> Is KDE4 stable now? A couple' months ago I used to run KDE 4.1 with Mandriva, it was so buggy I switched to gnome
[14:31] <MaGicKanGaRoo> and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[14:31] <XPS_M1330> thanks, MaGicSkiPpy
[14:31] <MaGicKanGaRoo> well ive been using its a lot better than k 4.0
[14:31] <MaGicKanGaRoo> im running 4.2 atm which is pretty good
[14:31] <MaGicKanGaRoo> but its personal taste
[14:31] <XPS_M1330> isn't the 4.3 out already?
[14:32] <XPS_M1330> well I actually love it, all its features, but several bugs got really annoying on the long run
[14:32] <MaGicKanGaRoo> sometimes its a bit vista ish, but you can take most of the fancy stuff out, dont really use the applets
[14:32] <MaGicKanGaRoo> not sure about 4.3 sure, its in dev
[14:32] <XPS_M1330> I liked the fancy stuff
[14:32] <MaGicKanGaRoo> see, personal choice :)
[14:33] <MaGicKanGaRoo> i like that it doesnt hide things from you like i felt gnome did
[14:33] <MaGicKanGaRoo> but then the ultra purest in me likes the idea of ion or something like that, strip it down completly
[14:33] <XPS_M1330> biggest problems I had was apps crashing all the time (especially kmail), Amarok couldn't handle iPod, and that applet to mount USB flash drives didn't work most of the time
[14:33] <MaGicKanGaRoo> but kde does me fine 99% of the time which is fine by me :)
[14:34] <MaGicKanGaRoo> maybe you should try 4.2?
[14:34] <MaGicKanGaRoo> the usb flashy thing was ok for me in 4.1 and it defo is in 4.2
[14:34] <XPS_M1330> I ended up liking gnome, but I find it's not very powerful, can't customize it as much as I want to
[14:34] <SandGorgon> l
[14:34] <XPS_M1330> that was 4.1, yes
[14:34] <MaGicKanGaRoo> i dont have an ipod so i dont know about that; and i use swift dover rather than kmail
[14:35] <sushiX> i am trying to use remote desktop and i am getting an error -> Connection to host "172.13.34.43.:5900" was closed
[14:35] <XPS_M1330> I do want to try the 4.2. I'll just wait a few days for spring break, right now is not the time to invest a lot of time in the computer (exams). I'll download it today at university though (download limit at home!)
[14:36] <XPS_M1330> swift dover?
[14:36] <XPS_M1330> never heard of that one
[14:36] <MaGicKanGaRoo> *switftdove and swiftfox
[14:36] <SandGorgon> l created a VM for virtualbox from a commandline install and put minimal install on KDE on it. Work really well
[14:36] <MaGicKanGaRoo> theyre cpu optimized versions of firefox and thunderbird with enlightenment
[14:36] <XPS_M1330> I was using thunderbird, was the less annoying one, but I don't like any email client out there, they seem all incomplete and buggy and not customizable
[14:36] <XPS_M1330> now I use evolution
[14:36] <BluesKaj> wow swiftfox..haven't heard that name for a couple of yrs
[14:37] <sushiX>  i am trying to use remote desktop and i am getting an error -> Connection to host "172.13.34.43.:5900" was closed any idea what could be the problem
[14:37] <MaGicKanGaRoo> is their a vnc server running on  172.13.34.43?
[14:37] <MaGicKanGaRoo> what do you use blueskaj?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> FF & T-bird , but I'm a bit lazy ...iwas a kmail and konq user til kmail changed it's look
[14:39] <MaGicKanGaRoo> never tried kmail.  had a go with evolution as i would sync with my phone out of the box
[14:39] <BluesKaj> konq is nolonger worth fighting for IMO
[14:39] <napterk> Hello! i started kde with "X & DISPLAY=:0" startkde from the terminal, but i get now "kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 3."
[14:40] <BluesKaj> I even use dolphin as the file manager now
[14:40] <SandGorgon> BluesKaj: konq was never the point, it was the webkit engine... and that's a better renderer than FF. Look at the new Safari benchmarks
[14:40] <MaGicKanGaRoo> i use konq quite often, we have an RT server that just runs a million times quicker in konq
[14:40] <SandGorgon> Webkit with Firefox's XUL plugins.... yummm
[14:40] <napterk> i renamed my . kde and .kde4 because i couldnt login after the login screen
[14:41] <MaGicKanGaRoo> what appens when you try to login via kdm?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> BTW safari has anew version out for windows & mac , supposedly 10 X faster than IE and 3 X faster than FF
[14:42] <MaGicKanGaRoo> sounds good :) tried it a few weeks ago in wine... it didnt go well :(
[14:42] <XPS_M1330> what's the deal with all the fuss around browser speed? it depends more on the connection speed
[14:43] <napterk> MaGicKanGaRoo>>>?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> XPS_M1330 , yeah, all things being equal except the browsers i guess
[14:43] <XPS_M1330> you have to wait 5 secs on the first load... big deal!
[14:43] <MaGicKanGaRoo> kdm = the login manager, where you have your username and password
[14:43] <XPS_M1330> I think opera is best
[14:44] <MaGicKanGaRoo> not so much for me XPS, alot of the servers i use browsers with are on a Lan/wan
[14:44] <SandGorgon> XPS_M1330: not entirely, the gecko webpage renderer vs the webkit renderer and the squirrelfish javascript engine vs the tracemonkey javascript engine is waht makes them different
[14:44] <XPS_M1330> I'm in an Opera window right now! internal chat engine
[14:45] <sven_> hello all, is their software in (k)ubuntu available to recover date from an usb-harddisk? the disk seems to be corrupt (ntfs d-drive is corrupt) but has all my personal files :s how can I recover it?
[14:46] <MaGicKanGaRoo> sven was it formated with extfs3?
[14:46] <SandGorgon> sven_, try spinrite - it is a bootable CD . It is a paid software, but as I have heard - well woth it
[14:47] <sven_> SandGorgon: no paid software please:s
[14:47] <MaGicKanGaRoo> you could give autopsy a go before spending money
[14:47] <MaGicKanGaRoo> its on the backtrack live cd
[14:57] <ActionParsnip1> !info autopsy
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !sleuthkit
[15:02] <BluesKaj> !info sleuthkit
[15:04] <sam_> i upgraded the other day and now I can no longer use caps-lock and the top toolbar from everything has gone
[15:08] <PodeCoet> Is it possible to upgrade from 7.04 to 8.04 without breaking anything?
[15:09] <MaGicKanGaRoo> should be
[15:09] <MaGicKanGaRoo> when you change the repo's
[15:09] <MaGicKanGaRoo> do apt-get update; then upgrade
[15:09] <MaGicKanGaRoo> it will list all the packages its going to upgrade without removing anything
[15:09] <MaGicKanGaRoo> when theyre done start installing the remaining packages with apt-get install packages
[15:09] <MaGicKanGaRoo> a few at a time
[15:10] <MaGicKanGaRoo> and watch if it says its going to remove anything
[15:10] <MaGicKanGaRoo> suually it will be replacing it with a newer version
[15:10] <MaGicKanGaRoo> or something that covers the same functions and has superceeded it
[15:10] <MaGicKanGaRoo> so if you do it carefully like that you have control along the way
[15:11] <PodeCoet> sounds like a pain :P
[15:12] <PodeCoet> but cool at the same time
[15:12] <MaGicKanGaRoo> heh :) just being doing it myself over the last few weeks with debian 300mhz boxes in the states .. took a while lol
[15:14] <PodeCoet> haha
[15:14] <PodeCoet> well I've been working on this automounting problem for ages, cant figure it out (got a Seagate FreeAgent 500GB drive that just wont work as writable or automount under 7.04)
[15:15] <PodeCoet> works under 8.04.2 (AMD64), figured an upgrade is quicker/better
[15:16] <MaGicKanGaRoo> cool ,well hope that it fixes it
[15:16] <PodeCoet> same, otherwise it'll be back to windows server for that box :P
[15:17] <MaGicKanGaRoo> ouch .. no box deserves that :)
[15:17] <PodeCoet> yeah I feel bad for the box tbh, but the users are morons, no choice :(
[15:18] <el> hi
[15:18] <MaGicKanGaRoo> that old chess nut eh :)
[15:18] <MaGicKanGaRoo> !hi el
[15:18] <MaGicKanGaRoo> :( didnt work exactly as intended..
[15:18] <PodeCoet> fail :P
[15:18] <MaGicKanGaRoo> indeed:(
[15:18] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys i have 3 internal haredrives, one 200gb for my ubuntu OS, the other two (1.5TB each) i want PURELY for storage and will LVM.... my question iswhen i format it iusing fdisk... do i make it a primary partiiton??? and how do i know im getting all 1.5TBS..... it asks questions about cylinders.. i am confused please help!
[15:19] <MaGicKanGaRoo> you can have 4 primary partions per hard disk
[15:19] <el> :D
[15:19] <MaGicKanGaRoo> if you arent partitioning up those 1.5 drives
[15:19] <MaGicKanGaRoo> you should be ok to do them as 1 primary partion a piece
[15:19] <MaGicKanGaRoo> are you raiding them?
[15:20] <ForzaPalermo> well either raid or LVM
[15:21] <ForzaPalermo> whatever is better/easier
[15:21] <ForzaPalermo> i jsut want to the two 1.5TB drives to be seen as one
[15:21] <PodeCoet> MaGicKanGaRoo: Wait a sec, you're not Australian, YOU'RE BRITISH!
[15:22] <MaGicKanGaRoo> this is true :)
[15:22] <mefisto__> that's the magic!
[15:22] <MaGicKanGaRoo> ok well for them to be seen as one thats not the partitioning really
[15:23] <MaGicKanGaRoo> you need to raid them either as raid 0 or raid 1 striping or mirroring
[15:23] <MaGicKanGaRoo> then when you install then they will be seen as one drive
[15:24] <PodeCoet> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png
[15:24] <ForzaPalermo> but i dont want to install, i already have my OS setup
[15:24] <PodeCoet> heehee... oldie but goodie :D
[15:24] <ForzaPalermo> i want to do this without my OS setup on that drive, just for storage nothing else
[15:25] <nicolaialexander> i just installed ubuntu and i need to have root access does anyone know how to gain root access i know the password but i cant access the root from the log in screen.  I am also dual booting.
[15:26] <mefisto__> PodeCoet: so old and good, I know what it is without looking at it :)
[15:26] <ForzaPalermo> so when you do an fdisk /dev/sda and pick primary partioin, and go through all the steps
[15:26] <ForzaPalermo> will it give me all my 1.5tb in that parition
[15:26] <ForzaPalermo> is ther ea limit?
[15:29] <user32768> i am trying to mount a samba share, ideally so that it can be mounted from kde.  its set up in fstab and can be mounted from a shell with sudo mount, but seems to require sudo?  and i have found no way to doing this via kde, either.  can anyone here help?
[15:29] <Rioting_pacifist> a 1.5Tb drive is only 1.36 Tib
[15:30] <Rioting_pacifist> erm you can make it user mountable
[15:30] <ForzaPalermo> right but goign throuhg the default motions will give me 1.36
[15:30] <ForzaPalermo> is my question
[15:31] <Rioting_pacifist> you will loose a few bytes (litterally a few) to the partition table but yes
[15:31] <ForzaPalermo> ok now my next question
[15:31] <PodeCoet> mefisto__: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/brick_archway.png
[15:31] <PodeCoet> whyat about that one :P
[15:31] <ForzaPalermo> so ive done that for my two drives
[15:32] <ForzaPalermo> then i ahve to give it a format
[15:32] <ForzaPalermo> like ext3 or ext4?
[15:32] <Rioting_pacifist> yeah you will need to format /dev/sda1  and /dev/sdb1
[15:32] <MaGicKanGaRoo> wait
[15:32] <MaGicKanGaRoo> if you want it to be 1 drive on your machine
[15:33] <MaGicKanGaRoo> you need to use raid to merge the two logical drives to present them as 1 logical one to the os
[15:33] <ForzaPalermo> yes
[15:33] <Rioting_pacifist> or lvm
[15:33] <MaGicKanGaRoo> you can either do that in software or usually in hardware
[15:33] <ForzaPalermo> ive tried hardware with raid controller
[15:33] <ForzaPalermo> but it still 2 sepearate
[15:33] <ForzaPalermo> in ubuntu
[15:33] <el> nico: have you ever logged onto your machine with the root account?
[15:34] <MaGicKanGaRoo> oh sorry, i forgot about lvm ... rioting is right
[15:35] <ForzaPalermo> so i dont have to do this command sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
[15:35] <ForzaPalermo> to each
[15:35] <ForzaPalermo> ?
[15:36] <Rioting_pacifist> no you setup the raid/lvm 1st and then there will be a device on your system that represents both /dev/md0 or /dev/mapper/md0 or something like that, you format that 2.72Tb drive
[15:37] <ForzaPalermo> ok can you help me setup the raid or lvm.. again whatever is easier is fine
[15:37] <lovre> hi all
[15:38] <el> hi lovre.
[15:38] <mefisto__> user32768:  if it's in fstab it should automount (unless you've told it not to)
[15:38] <lovre> i have a simple question. I have a pc with kubuntu 8.10 installed. I have another pc (laptop) with windows XP installed. I have a crossover cable. How do i connect theese two machines into LAN? What settings do i set up
[15:39] <ForzaPalermo> lovre: i think you need to set up samba if not mistaken... put them on the same network so that they can see and talk to eachother
[15:39] <lovre> ForzaPalermo: do i have to set static IP and if yes, how to do this?
[15:40] <ForzaPalermo> i guess you dont have a router?
[15:40] <mefisto__> !samba
[15:40] <ForzaPalermo> there you go... you can get all your instructions from there
[15:40] <ForzaPalermo> if you dont have a router its probabnly best to setup static ip and piut them in the same range for both
[15:41] <Rioting_pacifist> lovre: you will need to play with /etc/network/interfaces to set it up manually, it may be doable in NetworkManager but NetworkManager seams to be a PITA when i do anything unusual
[15:41] <lovre> ForzaPalermo: thanks for the links
[15:41] <ForzaPalermo> thank mefisto__
[15:41] <ForzaPalermo> :)
[15:41] <lovre> Rioting_pacifist: ok, ill try it both ways, thank you
[15:41] <ForzaPalermo> Rioting_pacifist: would you be able to help me setup raid or LVM with the OS already installed
[15:42] <Rioting_pacifist> samba is what youll want once the networking is done eitherway (using Networkmanager or editing config files)
[15:43] <ForzaPalermo> then get system-config-samba... makes it easy to setup
[15:43] <Rioting_pacifist> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ is what you need it may look daunting but just read the relevnat sections, first install lvm2
[15:44] <ForzaPalermo> Rioting_pacifist: i have installed and followed those directions
[15:45] <ForzaPalermo> but i cant get past the first part of doing a pvcreate
[15:45] <ForzaPalermo> says that disks are mounted or in use... i dont remmebenr the exact error
[15:45] <ForzaPalermo> but this was after i did an fdsik to both drives, and then gave them both a ext4 file structure on their respective partiions.. maybe that waas a mistake?
[15:45] <Rioting_pacifist> make sure they are not by running mount and checking if the disks are there
[15:47] <ForzaPalermo> how do i do that?
[15:47] <mauricio> hello
[15:47] <mauricio> I need help
[15:47] <mauricio> somebody can help to me
[15:47] <ghostcube> !ask
[15:47] <Rioting_pacifist> just type mount in a konsole and check the output for the drives
[15:47] <mauricio> I have SAmsung NC10 mini notbook, my atheros wifi adapter is not reconigzed by ubuntu 8.10
[15:48] <ghostcube> mauricio: lscpi -v | grep atheros
[15:48] <ghostcube> to www.pastie.org
[15:48] <ForzaPalermo> ok i guess i have to wait till i get home
[15:49] <mauricio> NetworkManager and wifi-radar say No wifi-device found. Exiting.
[15:49] <ForzaPalermo> now lets say i get past my issue and i do the pv create for both drives
[15:49] <ForzaPalermo> then all i have to do is create the voliume
[15:49] <ForzaPalermo> and i wouldk be done?
[15:49] <ForzaPalermo> with vgcreate
[15:49] <mauricio> lscpi -v | grep atheros COmmand not found
[15:50] <ghostcube> lscpi -v
[15:50] <ghostcube> lspci -v
[15:50] <ghostcube> damn typo
[15:50] <ghostcube> lol
[15:50] <Rioting_pacifist> mauricio:  lspci -v i think you have a typo
[15:50] <ghostcube> my fault
[15:50] <mauricio> ok
[15:50] <ghostcube> havent seen it twice lol
[15:50] <mauricio> is runung
[15:51] <ghostcube> i need the output for the atheos device to www.pastie.org
[15:51] <mauricio> working
[15:51] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: you will have a volume group of 3tb, inside that you will need to add a logical volume, that logical volume will be 3tb, then format just the logical volume
[15:52] <mauricio> no Athero Output
[15:52] <ghostcube> what is the output for lspci
[15:52] <ghostcube> post all to www.pastie.org
[15:52] <mauricio> no output
[15:53] <mauricio> here is
[15:53] <ghostcube> lspci isnt showing you anything ?
[15:53] <mauricio> yes , yes is output here
[15:53] <mauricio> im pasting the output for you
[15:54] <ghostcube> ok
[15:54] <mauricio> is donde paste
[15:54] <Rioting_pacifist> mauricio: its case sensitive lspci -v | grep Atheros should work
[15:56] <mauricio> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[15:56] <ForzaPalermo> Rioting_pacifist: would i use these commands to create the logical volume
[15:56] <ForzaPalermo> # vgdisplay testvg | grep "Total PE"
[15:56] <ForzaPalermo> Total PE              10230
[15:56] <ForzaPalermo> # lvcreate -l 10230 testvg -n mylv
[15:56] <ForzaPalermo>         
[15:56] <ForzaPalermo> and make sure that i get my whole 2 drives?
[15:58] <mauricio> ForzaPalermo
[15:58] <ForzaPalermo> mauricio:
[15:58] <mauricio> you saw the atheros info rigth
[15:59] <ForzaPalermo> no
[15:59] <mauricio> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[16:00] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: yeah lvcreate -l100 -n<name for your partiton> <name of the volume group>
[16:01] <Rioting_pacifist> mauricio: yes thats you atheros card
[16:02] <ForzaPalermo> Rioting_pacifist: ok so after i create that, i need to format that partion/volume before i can use it?
[16:02] <Rioting_pacifist> mauricio: stupid question, but is it the hardware switchedon (asin the light on the card is definatly on)?
[16:02] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: yes you then format the logical volume
[16:02] <mauricio> is on
[16:02] <ForzaPalermo> ok... now for storage whats the best format
[16:02] <ForzaPalermo> ext4?
[16:02] <mauricio> by bios setup is always on, and the ligth ison too
[16:03] <yao_ziyuan> i mistakenly pressed ctrl+alt+f12, and i entered a black screen. then i pressed ctrl+alt+f7 to get back. has i done anything harmful or vulnerable?
[16:03] <Rioting_pacifist> yao_ziyuan: no
[16:03] <ForzaPalermo> yao
[16:03] <ForzaPalermo> no
[16:03] <bipolar> yao_ziyuan: nope. thats exected.
[16:03] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[16:03] <mauricio> Rioting_Pacific
[16:03] <yao_ziyuan> has i opened up a new session?
[16:03] <mauricio> you have som knowledge how to fix it
[16:04] <bipolar> yao_ziyuan: you've found teh virtual consoles... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_console_(PC)
[16:04] <mauricio> to ubuntu reconigze the card
[16:04] <Rioting_pacifist> mauricio: i dont no much about wireless setup, all i can suggest is having a look at the atheros drive page
[16:04] <Rioting_pacifist> !atheros
[16:04] <yao_ziyuan> bipolar: actually i know them. but the problem is the new session is all black and i can't exit from it
[16:04] <yao_ziyuan> other than switch from it
[16:05] <mauricio> doesnt to  much
[16:05] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: the process goes something like this install lvm2, partiton disks(fdsik), add physical volumes to a volume group,create logical volume in that volume group,format logical volume (mkfs.ext3), play
[16:05] <bipolar> yao_ziyuan: by defaut only 1-8 are running
[16:05] <bipolar> yao_ziyuan: there are no gettys runing on 9-12
[16:05] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: id recomend ext4 but each file system has pros/cons
[16:06] <yao_ziyuan> ok
[16:07] <Rioting_pacifist> is anybody on jaunty is it usable yet?
[16:07] <ForzaPalermo> Rioting_pacifist: yeah i like ext4... now when i was playing around with mkfs... it seemed that it created a root filesystem
[16:07] <ForzaPalermo> like you would see int he OS
[16:07] <ForzaPalermo> is that right
[16:07] <White_Pelican> I was on it till my last upgrade
[16:07] <White_Pelican> that broke it
[16:07] <Rioting_pacifist> F
[16:07] <mauricio> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[16:08] <Rioting_pacifist> White_Pelican: so not sutable as a dropin system till i wait for 9.04
[16:08] <mauricio> who can help me
[16:08] <White_Pelican> exactly
[16:08] <mauricio> ubuntu doesnt reconigze the module
[16:09] <mauricio> root@mauricio-laptop:~# wifi-radar
[16:09] <mauricio> No wifi-device found. Exiting.
[16:09] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: it will create a partition with nothing on it, which can be used for anything and mounted anywhere (/ , /home, /data, etc)
[16:10] <ForzaPalermo> Rioting_pacifist: ok a few more questions if u dont mind.. i know im asking alot!
[16:10] <Rioting_pacifist> mauricio: try reloading the wireless modules sudo modprove -r ath_pci ; sudo modprobe ath_pci
[16:10] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: no problem im just waiting to see if anybody can help me with my segfaults
[16:11] <ForzaPalermo> Rioting_pacifist: when formating the partion using mkfs.... what will be the location... will it be /dev/sda1 or whatever or will it be the naem of the logical volume by itself?
[16:11] <mauricio> command not found
[16:11] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: it will be the name of the logical volume by itself
[16:11] <ForzaPalermo> so if i call it storage,, then thats all i need?
[16:12] <Rioting_pacifist> mauricio:  stupid typos it should read "modprobe -r ath_pci ; modprobe ath_pci
[16:13] <ForzaPalermo> 2nd question... do i have to MOUNT this voliume to see it>
[16:13] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: no youll need /dev/mapper/<volume group>-<logical volume> and you will need to have activated the volume group
[16:14] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo:  yes to interact with it you will have to mount it somewhere
[16:14] <mauricio> thw command pass
[16:15] <mauricio> nothing happend
[16:15] <mauricio> ill be back
[16:15] <Rioting_pacifist> mauricio: it should have reloaded the atheros module i dunno if it will help, all i can think is perhaps atheros needs some proprietary firmware so you need to run the hardware manager to set it up
[16:16] <Rioting_pacifist> but as i said before i dont really know how the networking stuff works
[16:16] <mauricio> ok
[16:16] <Rioting_pacifist> !cdbrun
[16:16] <Rioting_pacifist> !iso
[16:16] <Rioting_pacifist> !burning
[16:17] <Rioting_pacifist> !md5
[16:17] <ghostcube> mauricio: i have the fix
[16:17] <ghostcube> i did it last night on an samsung R710
[16:17] <ghostcube> you should highlit if you talk important things
[16:17] <ForzaPalermo> now i waws reading we have to active the volume group every time we boot the pc
[16:17] <ForzaPalermo> can we automate this ?
[16:18] <Rioting_pacifist> ForzaPalermo: no you only need to activate the volume group once, you can automate the mounting though
[16:18] <ghostcube> mauricio: pls open terminal
[16:18] <ghostcube> jockey
[16:19] <ForzaPalermo> ok that i know :)
[16:19] <ghostcube> there disable the atheros card support  mauricio
[16:19] <ghostcube> then install this package and reboot sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[16:19] <ghostcube> check inside jockey that only the atheros 500x driver are enabled
[16:19] <mauricio> where  is that instruction
[16:20] <ghostcube> mauricio: german wiki
[16:22] <palaiokwstas> scrollbar fix for firefox doesn't work in kde4.2 for me. anyone with same problem? anyone solved it?
[16:24] <lovre> hi all
[16:25] <ghostcube> mauricio: have u tried it ? is it clear what to do ?
[16:26] <lovre> i have my eth0 interface configured via wpa_supplicant and config file. Now i want to change that configuration to be static IP and to overwrite the settings from the file. How do i do this? is is enough to write the static ip into /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:28] <mefisto__> lovre: there's examples in  man interfaces
[16:29] <ForzaPalermo> Rioting_pacifist: sorry i got booted...
[16:29] <ForzaPalermo> Rioting_pacifist: now if i ever wipe the OS and install it over... will i ahve a proiblem reading from the lvm?
[16:30] <Rioting_pacifist> not from linux aslong as you install lvm and activate the volume group, from windows i think its imposible
[16:31] <Rioting_pacifist> brb
[16:34] <ForzaPalermo> ok great so in the future all i ahve to do is afctivate a voluime group even if i wipe the HD with the os completely?
[16:35] <Rioting_pacifist> yes, its tricky to mount from a livecd as by default a livecd doesnt load the correct modules, but it is doable (i think the command is modprobe loop ; modprobe lvm)
[16:37] <ForzaPalermo> ok well i think thats it.  i will give this another go tonight
[16:37] <ForzaPalermo> thanks
[16:37] <Rioting_pacifist> no problem
[16:40] <sven_> hello all, I have a usb-lacie-harddisk, and one partition seems to be corrupt. I have opened the usbdrive,and put the harddisk in my computer directly. But now in kubuntu, it asks me a password to access the partitions, why????
[16:41] <whut_> Where does Kubuntu mount DVD by Default?
[16:42] <Rioting_pacifist> whut_: run mount to see but i think its /media/dvd
[16:42] <Rioting_pacifist> sven_: what happens when you try and mount i manually
[16:42] <sven_> but it mounts automaticly, but when I click on it, it asks a password
[16:43] <Rioting_pacifist> its because it requires root privilages to mount then, you can edit fstab to avoid this
[16:43] <mefisto__> mine mounts at /media/cdrom0
[16:43] <sven_> Rioting_pacifist: how?
[16:44] <XPS_M1330> if I install the kubuntu-desktop package from HardyHeron, will I get KDE 3.5 or KDE 4.2 ?
[16:44] <Rioting_pacifist> sven_: erm find the relevant line and add user to the option in /etc/fstab
[16:44] <fosco__> XPS_M1330, hardy = kde 3.5
[16:44] <XPS_M1330> I would have thought KDE4 but when I look at the packages it sesms like it's KDE3<
[16:44] <XPS_M1330> What if I upgrade to intrepid first?
[16:44] <sven_> Rioting_pacifist: can you be more specific?
[16:45] <Rioting_pacifist> XPS_M1330: hardy has kde4 as an option ibex has kde4 as default with no kde3
[16:45] <XPS_M1330> SHOULD I upgrade to intrepid?
[16:45] <Rioting_pacifist> !mount
[16:45] <Rioting_pacifist> !fstab
[16:45] <XPS_M1330> I don't want to end up having to troubleshoot my computer during the whole spring break
[16:46] <mefisto__> XPS_M1330: don't upgrade then
[16:46] <XPS_M1330> mouahaha noted
[16:46] <XPS_M1330> but KDE4 is fine with hardyheron?
[16:47] <mefisto__> XPS_M1330: I'm not saying it's going to be difficult upgrading. just that there are no guarantees it will be trouble-free
[16:49] <Rioting_pacifist> sven_: read though https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#options bascially you have to add a line like /dev/sdb1 /media/lacie <filesystem> defaults,user 0 0
[16:51] <mefisto__> sven_: the line for your dvd drive will probably start with  /dev/scd0
[16:51] <XPS_M1330> I read someone with the same system saying at first wome things (including wifi) weren't working initially, but eventually they got fixed in subsequent releases. Does that mean I have a pretty good chance that everything's gonna work? Besides, I have a dell supported  ubuntu laptop
[16:52] <mefisto__> XPS_M1330: try an intrepid livecd to see how well your hardware goes out of the box
[16:52] <gothpaw> hat's the dd command to backup/copy an entire raw image of a 250GB partition (that has gone bad) for backup in case a restore doesn't work on the damaged hdd
[16:52] <palaiokwstas> Guys how do you see the idea for kde 4 to have another discreet notification method, like blinking the scroll lock light for a few seconds?
[16:52] <gothpaw> hat's = what's
[16:54] <XPS_M1330> mefisto__:  good idea, thanks
[16:56] <jbwiv> can someone remind me how to start up another Xserver on port :1 and point it to kdm ?
[16:56] <XPS_M1330> the standard iso from http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download is a live CD?
[16:56] <jbwiv> I remember the X :1 part....that works
[16:56] <jbwiv> but I need to get a kdm login screen on that X server
[16:59] <mefisto__> gothpaw: I think it's just dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/path/to/backup/image    if the partition is /dev/sda1
[16:59] <palaiokwstas> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185625
[16:59] <palaiokwstas> please vote
[16:59] <gothpaw> ok, so I would just replace sda1 with sdd1 ?
[17:00] <gothpaw> sdd1 being the drive in question
[17:00] <mefisto__> gothpaw: yes, and of= where you're saving the backup
[17:01] <gothpaw> mefisto__: is 'image' to be the image name? do I need to give it anything specific for the image name?
[17:01] <keldrona> hi guys, I have kubuntu 8.04, but I would like to use xfce interface. What do I have to download? Thank you
[17:01] <mefisto__> gothpaw: look at man dd for other options
[17:01] <gothpaw> mefisto__: thanks much, greatly appreciated
[17:01] <mefisto__> gothpaw: no, choose any name you want
[17:04] <mefisto__> gothpaw: check out testdisk. I think that can do backups for you, as well as repair partitions. never used it myself though
[17:13] <gohmifune> does anyone have problems with audio not playing when multiple sources are active?
[17:14]  * gohmifune is away: Gone away for now
[17:14]  * gohmifune is back.
[17:18] <phitoo> Hello! I'm looking for a way to disable krunner. How can I stop it from running?
[17:18] <maco> gohmifune: that's an ancient problem
[17:19] <maco> i supposed kmix is used in kubuntu...
[17:19] <gohmifune> the kids in the kde room say its pulseaudio
[17:19] <gothpaw> mefisto__: well I've been hearing some things about testdisk though, like how if it fixes a partition you loose all your data
[17:21] <mefisto__> phitoo: you could rename /usr/bin/krunner to krunner.disabled or something. that would probably do it.
[17:22] <phitoo> mefisto__: I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
[17:22] <draik_> I am on Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE4.2. I initially thought there was an audio problem, but it turned out to be an amarok issue with xine. How do I go about fixing the engine within amarok?
[17:23] <Tm_T> draik_: what Amarok version?
[17:23] <draik_> Tm_T: Just a sec
[17:24] <draik_> 1.4.10 Tm_T
[17:24] <Tm_T> draik_: I see, what problem you have and how it is determined?
[17:24] <yao_ziyuan> suppose a program freezes the system,
[17:24] <yao_ziyuan> and launching ksysguard to kill it takes a long time
[17:25] <yao_ziyuan> so i press ctrl + alt + f1
[17:25] <yao_ziyuan> to go to another terminal
[17:25] <SlimeyPete> yao_ziyuan: ctrl-alt-x
[17:25] <yao_ziyuan> and what command can i use to kill that problematic program?
[17:25] <SlimeyPete> that executes xkill, I think
[17:25] <yao_ziyuan> wow
[17:25] <SlimeyPete> or from the console: "kill -9 <pid>"
[17:25] <yao_ziyuan> tried
[17:25] <yao_ziyuan> no result
[17:25] <SlimeyPete> find the pid by using "ps -ef"
[17:25] <Tm_T> yao_ziyuan: or you can use "killall <appname>"
[17:25] <yao_ziyuan> o...
[17:25] <yao_ziyuan> but alt + ctrl + x doesn't take effect
[17:26] <Tm_T> and many other methods
[17:26] <draik_> Tm_T: When I upgraded to KDE4.2, I wasn't getting audio to play with amarok. shadeslayer and I had the same issue after upgrading. Upon further review, however, it appeared that it wasn't an audio issue as I suddenly heard tones from kopete. I then noticed it only applied to amarok as minirok was working.
[17:26] <draik_> Tm_T: Nevermind. It started working now. Weird.
[17:26] <pahan> j #kubuntu-ru
[17:26] <yao_ziyuan> killall worked
[17:28] <mefisto__> yao_ziyuan: you could also do ctrl-alt-esc and click the window you want to kill
[17:29] <draik_> I created an alias for killall... alias die='sudo killall'
[17:29] <pahan> русский канал
[17:30] <draik_> !ru | pahan
[17:44] <bipolar> now that 4.2 has hit intrepid backports, I'm having some trouble with mysqld-akonadi. Specificly, it fails to run on my workstations with nfs mounted home directorys.
[17:45] <bipolar> I can get akondai to start by using the system installed mysql server, but then I have to create the database and permissions by hand.
[17:45] <bipolar> has anyone else seen this?
[17:46] <dr_Willis> ive never even heard of that.. :)
[17:46] <bipolar> ugh
[17:46] <dr_Willis> Heh - I recall years ago - there being issues with nfs mountd homes.. but that was the last i ever even tried it. :)
[17:46] <bipolar> Been using it for a couple of years now
[17:47] <bipolar> I wish I could pin down the issue.
[17:47] <bipolar> it might be because the root user on the workstaion does not have access to the nfs shares.
[17:54] <rimvis> laba :)
[18:08] <sven_> hello all, how do I mount ntfs in kubuntu via terminal?
[18:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> with the ntfs-3g command
[18:08] <Dr_willis_AAO> !ntfs-3g
[18:12] <zumbi> Dr_willis_AAO: are you the same Dr_Willis that was interested on GP2X device ?
[18:12] <Dr_willis_AAO> I am he.
[18:13] <Dr_willis_AAO> I am on my AcerAspireOne at the moment. :)
[18:13] <Dr_willis_AAO> dr_Willis,  - is the pc in the basement :)
[18:13] <zumbi> where you doing kernel stuff on GP2X?
[18:13] <Dr_willis_AAO> not me.
[18:13] <Dr_willis_AAO> I just play games on it.
[18:14] <Dr_willis_AAO> actuyally ive not even had it out in ages...
[18:14] <zumbi> oh! ok
[18:14] <shurik2k5> hi, where can i find ktorrent 3.2 deb for kubuntu 8.10?
[18:14] <Dr_willis_AAO> It just sucks down the battery so fast. i cant stand it.
[18:14] <zumbi> hehe, i have a plug to the wall
[18:14] <Dr_willis_AAO> i do also.. but its a 'handheld' :) hard to do that all  the time
[18:15] <Dr_willis_AAO> I normally used mine to watch videos.
[18:15] <Dr_willis_AAO> but now my phone can do that. :)
[18:15] <zumbi> i bricked mine, i use it to waist time, brick it and debrick it
[18:15] <zumbi> currently it is bricked
[18:16] <Dr_willis_AAO> cant say that i ever flashed the rom on mine.
[18:16] <Dr_willis_AAO> I think the AcerAspireOne Guys need to make a 'AAO handheld' :) that way ya got a full pc as a handheld.
[18:17] <Dr_willis_AAO> and itd be cheaper then the new GPXXXXXX-made by yet another company-whatever it is called this week.. gizmox
[18:17] <zumbi> i got one of those too, now, i.MX51 netbooks are coming up
[18:18]  * zumbi &
[18:19] <Dr_willis_AAO> yea - i maysave up and get a new netbook at xmas time. this one is just sooo handy
[18:19] <Dr_willis_AAO> :)
[18:19] <Dr_willis_AAO> I wish this one had a svideo out.
[18:21] <mauricio> I have SAmsung NC10 mini notbook, my atheros wifi adapter is not reconigzed by ubuntu 8.10
[18:22] <Dr_willis_AAO> hmm.. My atheros works fine in ubuntu. It may  depend on exactlywhich chipset you have
[18:22] <rajat> hello dougl
[18:22] <Dr_willis_AAO> thers also i think 2 different 'drivers' out for those chipsets
[18:23] <dougl> hello
[18:23] <Dr_willis_AAO> !wireless
[18:23] <mauricio> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[18:24] <mauricio> this i my chipset
[18:24] <keldrona_> hi guys, I have kubuntu 8.04, but I would like to use xfce interface. What do I have to download? Thank you
[18:25] <cuznt> !xfce
[18:25] <mauricio> ubottu doesnt rigth info that file
[18:25] <mauricio> you are<0
[18:25] <Dr_willis_AAO> ubottu,  is a bot.
[18:25] <Dr_willis_AAO> :)
[18:26] <cuznt> !botsnack
[18:26] <cuznt> good bot
[18:26] <Dr_willis_AAO> i got 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[18:26] <Dr_willis_AAO> a
[18:27] <Dr_willis_AAO> it worked in ubuntu here - just fine
[18:27] <mauricio> Dr_willis_AAoO
[18:27] <mauricio> can you help  me
[18:27] <cuznt> how does one find these things with a terminal? OR is there a place that might show these commands.
[18:27] <Dr_willis_AAO> proberly not.. all idid to mine was click the confiogure network icon thing in the panel. and enter my info ssid/passwordkey
[18:27] <cuznt> !ask
[18:27] <Dr_willis_AAO> cuznt,  what things? the bot factoids?
[18:28] <cuznt> sorry..... im dumb today....
[18:28] <cuznt> you may have to make a new connection
[18:29] <cuznt> for the ethernet.. i did, but only once.
[18:29] <cuznt> nope the !ask was dumb pardon
[18:29] <Dr_willis_AAO> im not in Kubuntu, or Ubuntu at all - right now.. so cant check/help/handhold :)
[18:30] <cuznt> no like finding out your pc's hardware
[18:30] <carpii> how can i tell KDE's mime file associations that i want it to treat *.TPL files as if they were *.PHP files ?
[18:30] <cuznt> there is a command to find out what yout ethernet adapter is
[18:31] <carpii> the interface is incredibly unintuitive
[18:31] <cuznt> try right clicking carpii
[18:31] <carpii> on the TPL ?
[18:31] <cuznt> yes
[18:31] <cuznt> choose properties
[18:32] <cuznt> there should be a choice for progs to open files with prefs (if more than one assoc.)
[18:32] <Dr_willis_AAO> cuznt,  lspci
[18:33] <carpii> hm i think theres more to it cuznt. My tpl files are already set to open in KDevelop by default (and properties lists PHP script)
[18:33] <carpii> but in kdevelop, some TPL files just open as text, and the KDevelop guys told me that thats because KDE is inferring its a text file
[18:33] <cuznt> there is an icon that should let you find other programs to open it with
[18:33] <carpii> plain text, rather than TPL text
[18:34] <cuznt> i had to do that with my furthurnet browser
[18:34] <cuznt> its java based
[18:34] <cuznt> and i wanted it to auto start
[18:35] <carpii> its already associated
[18:35] <carpii> double clicking any tpl will open in kdevelop
[18:35] <carpii> but some open as text (no syntax highlighting) and some open with syntax highlighting
[18:35] <carpii> and the icons for these differ in dolphin too, even though theyre all TPL files
[18:36] <carpii> i was told its not just based on extension, but KDE has a quick look at the file to see what type it is
[18:36] <shaman> greetings
[18:36] <shaman> anyone know how to get koffice-kde4 installed in Intrepid
[18:36] <carpii> and for some reason KDE is thinking this small bunch of TPL files are just plan text
[18:36] <Shaman666> error: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/object-order-back.png', which is also in package kde-icons-oxygen
[18:37] <cuznt> when you choose properties there is an icon on the right that looks like a wrench
[18:37] <Shaman666> more fool me for using koffice to write business documents, I guess
[18:37] <cuznt> then you can add an application
[18:37] <cuznt> and choose which one it is supposed to open with first
[18:38] <cuznt> it thought my java was script and opened it with kate
[18:38] <cuznt> and that is a .jar
[18:39] <Shaman666> anyone know how to force apt to let me install koffice?
[18:39] <gorgonizer> Shaman666: you can use dpkg to force the overwrite of that file..
[18:40] <gorgonizer> Shaman666: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite [path-to-package]package-name
[18:40] <Shaman666> dpkg --force-overwrite -i  <------ worked
[18:42] <yaa_> ti cho tak bazarish
[18:52] <ncfi1013> can anybody tell me of the simplest way possible to install a graphics driver for an nvidia geforce 6100 gpi graphics card that doesn't screw anything up like having to go into recovery mode to stop using the driver and getting a b.s.o.d.?
[18:54] <BluesKaj> ncfi1013, look in adept search by typing your card model there , a recomended driver will be listed with your card in properties
[18:55] <ncfi1013> blueskaj will cause me any problems like the ones i listed or any other problems i didnt think about?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> ncfi1013, did you find the nvidia graphics driver like the version 177 for example , if you click on properties of that driver you'll se a list of supported nvidia cards
[19:00] <BluesKaj> ncfi1013 , i see the 177 version driver supports the  GeForce 6100...install that driver and relogin , then you'll have the option of installing it without any probs
[19:01] <BluesKaj> installing = choosing as default after relogin
[19:01] <lucypher> Hi, how do I print odd/even pages of a document? I'm used to print front-rear pages this way.
[19:10] <duron> hi
[19:10] <duron> I'm French and i want change langage, how I do ?
[19:10] <ncfi1013> i already tried to install the 177 and the problems that i listed happened blueskaj so why did i have problems installing it if it is supported?
[19:12] <mauricio> I fixed
[19:14] <Jampiter> Hi
[19:14] <mauricio> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[19:14] <Jampiter> Is there a way to change the blue colour of the 'taskbar' in 4.2 without changing the Plasma theme? It doesn't go with any wallpaper other than the default one.
[19:14] <mauricio> works in ubuntu
[19:15] <Jampiter> Ok, nevermind.
[19:16] <mauricio> here the sol
[19:16] <mauricio> NC10 Samsung
[19:16] <mauricio> Download and install madwifi driver
[19:16] <mauricio> thats all
[19:16] <mauricio> now
[19:17] <mauricio> I have a HSPA module
[19:18] <mauricio> I have HSPA module how can set it up to connect to Internert
[19:18] <ncfi1013> can anybody tell me why i cant get the themes to work in amarok? does it have anything to do with not having a driver installed?
[19:20] <olskolirc> can someone look at my pastebin and tell me why I can't play .avi files please?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/123477/
[19:20] <fosco__> olskolirc, try dissabling all plugins in totem, it seems some plugin is failing
[19:21] <olskolirc> thanks fosco
[19:23] <olskolirc> thanks fosco_
[19:23] <mauricio> I have HSPA module how can set it up to connect to Internert?
[19:24] <peaches> anyonone knows how to fix the error "Warning: unsupported audio format" trying to record from mic with arecord -f cd -t raw | lame -x - record.mp3
[19:26] <ncfi1013> can anybody tell me why i cant get my ipod to connect in amarok when my new device manager sees it and mounts it with no problem?
[19:26] <ncfi1013> can anybody tell me why i cant get the themes to work in amarok? does it have anything to do with not having a driver installed?
[19:29] <ncfi1013> can anybody what it means when amarok asks for the pre-connect and post-disconnect commands for connecting an ipod? if anybody knows what it means can they tell me what they are?
[19:36] <Jampiter> How do I adjust the cursor speed in 4.2?
[19:37] <HappySmileMan> Move your hand faster
[19:37] <HappySmileMan> Or slower
[19:38] <HappySmileMan> (Alternately go to System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> Advanced
[19:38] <HappySmileMan> And change Pointer acceleration
[19:39] <Jampiter> Thanks :)
[19:41] <olskolirc> fosco_, can you help me with this pastebin please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/123495/
[19:47] <fosco__> it seems that avi is broken
[19:48] <olskolirc> ok thanks fosco_
[19:49] <bipolar> I'm trying to debug a problem with the akonadi mysql server on my workstations with NFS home dir's. I've pastebin'd the error at http://pastebin.com/m8dc719b
[19:50] <bipolar> My first troubleshooting direction is to try to find out if any of the database creation code somehow runs as root
[19:50] <bipolar> since my home directories are root_squash'ed
[19:50] <bipolar> can anyone help me debug this?
[19:53] <goofey> bipolar: not sure that #kubuntu is the best place for mysql and NFS questions....
[19:54] <sorset> where can i find libtool 1.5 package ?
[19:54] <bipolar> goofey: this is about the 4.2 packages released in intrepid-backports
[19:56] <bipolar> There must be a configuration script that creates the inital akonadi database when first run. For some reason it's not creating what it needs to, and I can't find any debuging output whatsoever from that process.
[19:57] <bipolar> the only thing I have is the output of the mysqld-akonadi process that fails to start
[19:57] <goofey> bipolar: still doesn't sound #kubuntu related to me, but that's just me - just trying to make sure you get the best help possible
[19:57] <bipolar> goofey: they are kubuntu packages, this is the only channel to get help with them.
[19:58] <palaiokwstas> error 28: selected item cannot fit in memory
[19:58] <palaiokwstas> i cannot get into win xp
[19:58] <goofey> bipolar: first of all, mysql packages are generic to *buntu, not specific to kubuntu
[19:58] <palaiokwstas> what can i do?
[19:59] <lovre> i have accidentally deleted some content from my USB memory. Is there some kind of recovery tool i can use to try to recover this data? I havent written anything on the memory since.
[19:59] <jamesjedimaster> bipolar: perhaps you can try on #mysql channel
[19:59] <david__> Hi folks... quick question:  Is there any repo I can add to Intrepid to get PostgreSQL 8.2?  (8.3 is the only one available by default, and that won't work for a specific application I need to install... sigh)
[19:59] <bipolar> goofey, jamesjedimaster: I'm talking about mysqld-akonadi. that is kubuntu specific, unless gnome started using akonadi....
[20:00] <bipolar> it's a seperate binary then the standard mysql package.
[20:01] <palaiokwstas> anyone for the grub error?
[20:02] <venik> How do I change the icon of a file that is on the desktop in Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.2?
[20:03] <david__> Gak.. sorry, got to run... I'll ask later ;-)
[20:03] <compilerwriter> When I look at my desktop viewer I seem to have an invisible terminal window that won't come up to the desktop to be terminated.  How can I raise this thing to fix it?
[20:05] <compilerwriter> Should I just remove the viewer from my panel and then put it back?  Is this probably a phantom window in the viewer widget?
[20:10] <venik> any news on changing an icon of a file on the desktop in Kubuntu 8.10?
[20:11] <lovre> how do i check kernel version
[20:11] <PymerOne> hiya all
[20:12] <PymerOne> run for cover everyone...i am a complete noob ;)
[20:13] <PymerOne> and for being a noob, i have maaaaany questions
[20:13] <PymerOne> has anyone any ideaś about vrml?
[20:14] <Guest94362> hi
[20:14] <PymerOne> hi guest ;)
[20:15] <PymerOne> oh my....ppl at my door....have to go cya ;)
[20:16] <Mooqball> How do I manually configure internets in kubuntu?
[20:16] <carpii> nano /etc/network/interfaces
[20:16] <carpii> /etc/init/d/network restart
[20:16] <carpii> /etc/init.d/network restart
[20:16] <Mooqball> i cant get kubuntu to go on the net even directly plugged in to the modem
[20:16] <Mooqball> fresh install
[20:16] <Mooqball> before i was using ubuntu
[20:16] <carpii> is the modem connected?
[20:17] <Mooqball> yeah, im dual booting because im noob like that
[20:17] <carpii> what are you using now?
[20:17] <Mooqball> vista ultimate
[20:18] <carpii> could be anything, hard to say since youre not in kubuntu
[20:18] <Mooqball> couldnt get on the internet
[20:18] <carpii> check dhcp hasnt failed and youve been given a diff ip
[20:18] <Mooqball> ubuntu works out of the box with my internet
[20:18] <carpii> duff
[20:18] <unko> hmm not that many people using kubuntu huh
[20:18] <unko> compareed to ubuntu's 1.5k of users
[20:19] <Mooqball> like thing cranks and it gives me the option to configure wan0 or eth0
[20:19] <carpii> lots of kde people just use #ubuntu
[20:19] <jals> question, i currently eject my ipod by typing sudo eject /dev/sdb1 or whatever
[20:19] <Mooqball> unko: my university uses kubuntu in its "Linux Labs" =P
[20:19] <jals> how do i make it so i don't have to do "sudo"
[20:19] <jals> i've read that i can add myself to a group or something?
[20:19] <Cranky_old_goat> hi ...anyone that can tell me how to get knetworkmanager working?   i have no problems connecting with gnome, but kde4 is no-go
[20:19] <bipolar> lovre: the easy way to check kernel version is to open up konsole and run 'uname -a'
[20:20] <unko> ok guys...i might switch to kubuntu from ubuntu... kubuntu updates the stuff more than ubuntu so i thinking about it...and i love amarok wich i can't get in ubuntu cuz i don't feel like compiling it
[20:20] <Mooqball> i guess im too lame for kde since gnome has more support
[20:20] <Mooqball> for noobs
[20:20] <Mooqball> i should go cry and run back to ubuntu
[20:20] <bipolar> lovre: 'uname -r' will give you JUST the kernel version without the other stuff
[20:20] <unko> i don't know what to do
[20:20] <lovre> bipolar: thank you
[20:21] <bipolar> np
[20:21] <carpii> mooqball, its hard to help when someone just says 'it doesnt work'
[20:22] <Mooqball> Okay, I appreciate you trying to help me I'll be descriptive as possible. I right mouse click the grey globe thing. I set up new wireless connection (wan0 it says). I click on my home wireless network. I type in my key. I click next. It cranks for 2 min and then stops. So then I plugged directly into my modem
[20:22] <Mooqball> and it recognizes that its an ethernet cable and starts to crank. status: IP Configuration. Then it stops, and returns to grey globe.
[20:23] <valgaav> do you have dhcp ?
[20:23] <valgaav> or manual IP ?
[20:24] <Mooqball> I have the thing where every computer has the same IP and the router assigns a random IP to every computer
[20:24] <carpii> you mean you use dhcp
[20:24] <Mooqball> locally from my understanding. I am not sure what DHCP is.
[20:24] <valgaav> dhcp then
[20:24] <Mooqball> yes
[20:24] <carpii> they dont all have the same ip, but nevermind :D
[20:24] <carpii> did you try restarting network after plugging the ethernet cable in?
[20:25] <Mooqball> well you know what i mean, the local ip
[20:25] <Mooqball> 192.168.2.x
[20:25] <carpii> yeah, i do
[20:25] <valgaav> if your wireless is hidden
[20:25] <carpii> and what version of kde is this
[20:25] <valgaav> (no ssid broadcast)
[20:25] <valgaav> then that may be the problem
[20:25] <Mooqball> the one that comes with 8.10 fresh install. 1.x something
[20:25] <carpii> 4.1 i guess
[20:25] <Mooqball> the router broadcasts the ssid
[20:26] <valgaav> uh
[20:26] <carpii> reboot into kubuntu with the cable attached, then run ifconfig and make a note of the ip and gateway settings
[20:26] <valgaav> 4.2 has the knetworkmanger
[20:26] <valgaav> 4.1
[20:26] <carpii> then see if you can access your routers web interface
[20:27] <Mooqball> i know the ip and gateway of my isp
[20:27] <carpii>  this is different
[20:27] <carpii> if dhcp isnt giving your machine a good ip, you wont be able to connect to anything, even if your router is online
[20:28] <Mooqball> ok
[20:28] <carpii> you should probably thin about upgrading to kde 4.2, too
[20:28] <carpii> 3.5 is great, 4.2 is ok, but 4.1 is pretty bad
[20:28] <valgaav> I second that
[20:28] <Mooqball> i will when i get on the internets
[20:28] <Mooqball> ok so boot back into kubuntu and run ifconfig
[20:28] <valgaav> the plasmoid for networks in jaunty is a lot better
[20:29] <valgaav> and jaunty is already quite stable
[20:29] <valgaav> maybe download daily build of jaunty ?
[20:29] <valgaav> try on livecd if you will have more luck with yuor connection
[20:29] <Mooqball> ok
[20:30] <valgaav> do you want a link for jaunty daily builds ?
[20:30] <Mooqball> if i download jaunty alpha or whatever how do i install it over the kubuntu partition or is that not possible
[20:30] <Mooqball> because i do the ubuntu over windows thing and it uses grub
[20:31] <Mooqball> sure ill dl jaunty
[20:31] <valgaav> I would suggest formating that partition and installing it there
[20:31] <xiqxiq> hello i have a BIG problem with kubuntu
[20:31] <Mooqball> using the installer or some other method?
[20:31] <valgaav> yes the installer
[20:31] <Mooqball> ok
[20:31] <Mooqball> We'll give that a go!
[20:31] <valgaav> the manual method in it afaik
[20:31] <olskolirc> fosco_, can you help me with this pastebin please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/123495/
[20:32] <olskolirc> oops sorry fosco__
[20:32] <xiqxiq> my computer was formatted, and the only disc i had was kubuntu feisty... how can i upgrade it now?
[20:33] <xiqxiq> (sudo apt-get update doesnt work, it says feisty files not found)
[20:35] <Mooqball> valgaav: where can I get the latest jaunty build?
[20:35] <xiqxiq> hello anyone?
[20:36] <valgaav> here : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[20:36] <Mooqball> thanks
[20:36] <valgaav> it's best that you play with it a bit from a livecd mode
[20:36] <Mooqball> ok
[20:37] <valgaav> and decide if you like it
[20:37] <Mooqball> i should prob stay away from 64 bit for now right
[20:37] <valgaav> it also has ext4 support
[20:37] <valgaav> well I'm using 64 bit
[20:37] <Mooqball> yeah but you are smarter than i
[20:37] <valgaav> and I'm happy with it
[20:38] <valgaav> I guess flash and jave is still a bit problem with 64 bits
[20:38] <Mooqball> ill go for 32 for no
[20:38] <Mooqball> now
[20:38] <valgaav> and ext4 is nice but I guess you shouldn't play with just yet too :P
[20:39] <Mooqball> thanks for your help
[20:39] <valgaav> np
[20:40] <Mooqball> what's the release date on 9.04
[20:40] <valgaav> april afaik
[20:41] <valgaav> 9.04 = 2009 . 04 :)
[20:41] <Mooqball> i see
[20:55] <Enayem> Bonsoir
[20:56] <Enayem> j'aurais une question ^^
[20:57] <Enayem> je suis developpeur, dans une société de service, je vais être en inter contract bientôt (pas cool) et je voulais en profiter pour contribuer à un projet open source (cool ^^)
[20:57] <Enayem> comment faire pour commencer ?
[20:58] <Enayem> ou trouver les projet français
[20:58] <Enayem> comment contacter des team de developpement
[21:00] <david__> Does anyone know a repository I could add on Intrepid to get PostgreSQL 8.2?  (PostgreSQL 8.3 seems to be the only one available by default; I need 8.2 for a particular application)
[21:02] <Enayem> Sorry i think is a french chan !
[21:02] <Enayem> thinked
[21:02] <david__> :-)
[21:02] <valgaav> thought :P
[21:02] <Enayem> :D
[21:02] <gmiernicki> it is?
[21:02] <gmiernicki> :(
[21:03] <Enayem> that the cause what i search a franch project :D :D
[21:07] <tripoli> bonsoir a tous !
[21:08] <david__> Is PostgreSQL 8.2 even available for Intrepid?  Might have to build from source.... sigh.
[21:10] <tripoli> est ce que qqun parle francais ?
[21:10] <noren_> !fr
[21:12] <ozca> #list
[21:16] <kurumin__> oiiiiiiiiiiii
[21:17] <compilerwriter> Weh
[21:17] <slerder> Hey guys. Anyone know of a little linux app for ubuntu that lets me see the transfered speed of a certain nic like eth1?Thanks
[21:19] <carpii> well theres superkaramba, might be a bit overkill though
[21:21] <bipolar> ok... the problem with mysql-akonadi and nfs moutned home directorys is all about apparmor :(
[21:22] <bipolar> but I'm not sure how to fix it
[21:23] <bipolar>  /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld-akonadi has @{HOME}/.local/share/akonadi/ listed, but something about /home being nfs mounted is making it fail.
[21:23] <bipolar> anyone have any ideas?
[21:23] <SuspectZero> hey there. i just ran apache2ctl and it gives me a page that says "it works" on 127.0.0.1. i changed the default file to say something custom but when i go to 127.0.0.1 it still gives the "it works" method
[21:28] <bipolar> SuspectZero: Web Browser Cache
[21:28] <stagga> hello
[21:29] <stagga> audacity with logitech usb dosen't work
[21:31] <stagga> can someone please help
[21:33] <jarco> I became uncle today for the second time
[21:35] <tellmehowplease> how to get the usb mic to work in audacity
[21:36] <MidnightDevil> heya
[21:36] <tellmehowplease> hello
[21:37] <tellmehowplease> to get the usb mic to work in audacity
[21:38] <tellmehowplease> can anyone tell me how to get a logitech mike to work in audacity
[21:39] <carpii> try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6518946
[21:40] <tellmehowplease> thnk
[21:40] <drahmail> salemo 3alaycom
[21:41] <drahmail> welcom
[21:41] <senorpedro> hi
[21:41] <senorpedro> why cant i play the streams from somafm.com in amarok?
[21:42] <senorpedro> i always get like 'not supported multiplexer format' or somthing like that
[21:42] <senorpedro> but i have mp2  installed etc
[21:42] <senorpedro> ffmpeg blabla
[21:42] <senorpedro> i can watch avi, divx, mp3
[21:42] <senorpedro> everything
[21:42] <senorpedro> why not the radio stream?
[21:42] <senorpedro> in windows it works
[21:42] <senorpedro> even in macosx
[21:43] <senorpedro> or freebsd
[21:43] <senorpedro> dos 6.2
[21:43] <senorpedro> hola?
[21:43] <drahmail> please i can't see the animation desktop in may system "ubuntu"
[21:44] <carpii> senor, can you just type on one line plz
[21:45] <senorpedro> ok sorry
[21:45] <senorpedro> wont happen again
[21:45] <senorpedro> please   help
[21:45] <carpii> :)
[21:45] <senorpedro> carpii: can you listen to somafm radio stations in amarok?
[21:46] <carpii> im looking
[21:46] <carpii> it seems to use some aacPlus stream format
[21:46] <carpii> youd need to find a codec for that
[21:47] <senorpedro> ok thx buddy
[21:47] <carpii> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199115
[21:47] <carpii> old thread, but maybe his solution at bottom works
[21:47] <tellmehowplease> howto add killall pulseadudio to your sessions
[21:47] <gmiernicki> anyone recommend kde4.2 on intrepid? or would it be best to wait for jaunty?
[21:49] <Mooq> gmiernicki: prob best to wait for jaunty
[21:49] <Mooq> but im no expert =P
[21:50] <gmiernicki> im tempted to do it, cuz theres a few things in 4.1 that irk me pretty bad
[21:50] <gmiernicki> but i also need a stable box
[21:51] <drahmail> i cannot install the skype in ubuntu8.10?
[21:51] <Mooq> i just finished downloading the latest alpha build
[21:52] <athlon1> Hallo. Can any tell me a plugin for watching http requests (get, post) for firefox. What I want is that before sending a form it shows me the header. Thanks
[21:52] <HappySmileMan> athlon1: LiveHTTPheaders
[21:52] <HappySmileMan> I think it's called
[21:53] <athlon1> I'm going to try...
[22:01] <athlon1> HappySmileMan: But it doesn't display headers... It's a very small window on the left and I can't watch its content.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:01] <HappySmileMan> athlon1: I thought you could bring up a dialog box which shows more, but I haven't used it in a while, maybe I'm thinking of something else
[22:02] <athlon1> It opens a window, but I use spanish firefox an may have some bug because it seem to work, but can see the text...
[22:04] <valgaav> @gmiernicki kde 4.2 in jaunty seems more stable then the one in intrepid
[22:04] <valgaav> just my impresion though
[22:04] <valgaav> I'm rruning jaunty at the moment
[22:04] <gmiernicki> guess i can hold off for another 60 days then
[22:05] <valgaav> well it's already in a feature freeze
[22:06] <valgaav> and from my point of view it is stable ... though I'm running it for just one week time
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> i tried jaunty recently, didny fly too wel
[22:08] <chrischi> hello
[22:08] <Erthe> Hey folks.
[22:08] <chrischi> hi
[22:09] <Erthe> I'm a little new (or my knowledge is gone from a time I knew) with .deb, wondering how I determine which files are owned by a package I have installed?
[22:09] <Erthe> Equivalent of rpm -ql <package>
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Erthe: use apt-file
[22:12] <Erthe> Thanks  :)
[22:12] <noren_> !hi | chrischi
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Erthe: apt-file search <some file name>
[22:13] <Erthe> Oh, it's the reverse action I'm interested in
[22:14] <Erthe> Like: dpkg -someoption <packagename>
[22:14] <Erthe> I installed a package with adept and I can't find the executable for it.
[22:14] <vbeltrao> What happened to kubuntu 8.04? it stopped finding the updates like 2 ago
[22:14] <chrischi> sorry im a noob with konversation... does anybody know how to get on quakenet? there are no preset servers... :(
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Erthe: apt-cache search <something>
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Erthe: apt-get -reinstall install <whatever>
[22:15] <vbeltrao> 2 days ago, the list was full of updates.. right no? it's says that it's to most current version but IT'S NOT!.. I left many updates behind and I nedd 'em now
[22:15] <vbeltrao> right now
[22:16] <Erthe> ActionParsnip: Found it, thanks.  :)
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> vbeltrao: then contact the repo managers
[22:20] <vbeltrao> Ok!
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Erthe: sweet
[22:21] <Erthe> Just want to put it out there that Kubuntu was a godsend
[22:21] <Erthe> SuSE's support for KDE has gone down the drain
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Erthe: install a different DE on SuSE
[22:21] <Erthe> KDE under Kubuntu is almost entirely stable
[22:22] <Erthe> Well, I've installed Kubuntu, won't be using openSUSE anymore
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Erthe: i use kde but not kwin
[22:22] <Erthe> KWin has been pretty good to me so far
[22:22] <Erthe> Only bugs I've had are with Konqueror to be honest
[22:23] <Erthe> It consistently believes my cache is enabled.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> i dislike it, i find it slow. i use fluxbox
[22:23] <Erthe> My hardware is pretty pimp
[22:23] <Erthe> This is a gaming PC
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> mine is mid range, i just liek speed
[22:23] <Erthe> Well, with my hardware, this is fast.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> my system is primed for speed
[22:24] <Erthe> I'm not sure if I could speed this up at all  :)
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> no animations no loading things bobbing up and down
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> oh i bet you can
[22:25] <Erthe> Resizing windows with wobbly windows on is a bit odd, but other than that, everything else is highly responsive, quick, crisp and clean.
[22:25] <maco> ActionParsnip: i sit there saying "boun-cy! boun-cy! boun-cy!" in my head when i see the loading things
[22:25] <Erthe> Waiting to use KDE4 with all the bells and whistles enabled was worth the time spent waiting  :)
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> if you disable all window animations it'll be faster
[22:25] <Erthe> But it's .. fast now..
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> maco: i turned those off, waste of time
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Erthe: if you run a local dns server your web access will speed up a little
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Erthe: you can compile apps to remove unnecessary features
[22:26] <Erthe> Honestly, I'm happy with the way this is functioning  :)
[22:27] <Erthe> Although I'm still not sure I like Dolphin over Konqueror
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> then uninstall dolphin and install konqueror
[22:27] <Erthe> They're both installed.
[22:28] <Erthe> I'm just expressing an opinion on KDE4
[22:28] <Erthe> I've been using KDE since 0.9x days
[22:28] <Erthe> Konqueror was really really useful to me in KDE3
[22:28] <Erthe> Not sure if I could use Dolphin over it
[22:28] <gmiernicki> dolphin has issues
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> Erthe: uninstall what you dont need
[22:28] <gmiernicki> but it feels ok after using it for a while
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> use cli for file management :)
[22:29] <Erthe> Dolphin is kind of featureless
[22:29] <carpii> yeah the options screen is like barren
[22:29] <gmiernicki> the thing i hate is that it freezes for 5-30 seconds sometime on copy/move operations
[22:29] <carpii> i use dolphin on kde 3.5, i just had to get used to it
[22:29] <Erthe> ActionParsnip: When I'm working, my Konqueror window has 5 panes, one for each of the source modules I'm working on
[22:30] <Erthe> It's DnD to Kate that I use a GUI FM for
[22:31] <drostie> Every time I set up Kubuntu, I have to reconfigure Dolphin. --_--;;
[22:31] <Erthe> Took me a while to get it to appear the way I wanted
[22:32] <Erthe> Once they flesh out the app it'll be great
[22:35] <draik_> I have nepomukserver running at 100%.
[22:35] <draik_> I can't kill it either
[22:35] <draik_> What gives?
[22:36] <draik_> It is fluxing between 99 to 100% right now. :(
[22:36] <draik_> BTW, is it needed?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> draik_: sudo kill -9 <pid>
[22:37] <draik_> ActionParsnip: Is it needed?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> draik_: let me websearch
[22:38] <draik_> I'm only seeing that it is a "Social Semantic Desktop"
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> draik_: http://dev.nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/download/
[22:40] <draik_> ActionParsnip: I don't need a download. It's running on my computer at 100%
[22:40] <draik_> Well, not anymore.
[22:40] <draik_> I'm just wondering if it is necessary.
[22:40] <drostie> Erthe: Kate is ok, but it has a rendering bug that annoys me.
[22:40] <UnixOne> hi
[22:40] <UnixOne> Can somebody send me the sources.list for kde4.2?? I will install ubuntu -server-txt-mode 8.10 to install a custom kde4.2 installation.
[22:42] <drostie> UnixOne: kde 4.2 doesn't have a sources.list, as it is a desktop environment, not a Linux distribution.
[22:42] <drostie> Did you mean the default Kubuntu sources.list?
[22:42] <draik_> I'm just curious, but what happened with source-o-matic that it isn't advised for use?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> draik_: i'm just showing you what it is
[22:44] <draik_> OK
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> draik_: kill it off and see what difference the system has, you can always reboot
[22:44] <blahjake> UnixOne: you need this line added: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[22:44] <blahjake> UnixOne: assuming you're on intrepid
[22:45] <drostie> ah, if UnixOne wanted the repository for kde 4.2, that would explain something ^_^;;
[22:46] <draik_> ActionParsnip: It stops my computer from freezing
[22:46] <draik_> I don't have a net connection though
[22:46] <blahjake> drostie: yep as kde 4.2 is not in the default sources.list on intrepid
[22:46] <lovre> is there a way i can run my python scripts directly from Kate (eg by pressing F5 or something?)
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> draik_: thats all i can suggest
[22:48] <Erthe> lovre: You can execute it with the terminal in Kate easily enough
[22:48] <draik_> How can I restart the eth0 connection? It just seems to die there
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> draik_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:49] <lovre> Erthe: i just see "Pipe to terminal" but that sends the text to terminal, which cant work since its not bsh but python
[22:49] <UnixOne> drostie: I wanted to repository for kde4.2
[22:50] <Erthe> lovre: You can sync the terminal location with the directory the file is in.
[22:50] <Erthe> lovre: So you can hit the up arrow key, enter
[22:50] <UnixOne> drostie: because I just wanted to install an up2date intrepid + kubuntu including some of my favorite apps in one wash.
[22:50] <Erthe> Otherwise you'd have to build a plugin.
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> UnixOne: KDE 4.2 out http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[22:50] <Erthe> Kate is, after all, only a text editor
[22:50] <UnixOne> ActionParsnip: I know that.. I wouldn't ask for kde4.2alpha ;)
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> KDE advanced text editor == kate
[22:51] <drostie> lovre: at the bottom of the Kate screen, look for a button labeled "terminal."
[22:51] <lovre> Erthe: yea, i know, but when i saw it has plugins abillity, i thought someone maybe made something like this
[22:51] <Erthe> lovre: Enable the External Tools plugin
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> UnixOne: i dont know of anything else, you could ask in #kde
[22:51] <UnixOne> ActionParsnip: they send me over her
[22:51] <Erthe> lovre: You'll have to setup the script to execute files in the way you want, but that should work out well for you
[22:52] <drostie> lovre: if it's not there, try Tools > Focus Terminal, should be underneath the "pipe to terminal" option or so.
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> UnixOne: lame
[22:52] <drostie> Just save your python script and then run it from the built-in terminal.
[22:53] <Erthe> lovre: I agree, it's faster just to execute it by hand
[22:53] <lovre> drostie: yes, i see it. thank you
[22:54] <lovre> Erthe: imma look into external tools plugin, thank you
[22:54] <UnixOne> ActionParsnip: what?
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> UnixOne: how the kde lot shot you here
[22:54] <UnixOne> ah indeed
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> UnixOne: all i can suggest is the ppa repo, its prety decent
[22:55] <Erthe> lovre: You can configure the script to bind to a hotkey too.
[22:55] <Erthe> lovre: Kate should give you enough variables to play with to do what you want though
[22:56] <UnixOne> yes, that's true. but I wanted something official if possible. I won't have anything in the sources.list when I run ubuntu-server that's why I'm kindly asking you here. The ppa is nice, but the official kde4.2 *.list would be sufficient
[22:56] <draik_> Where are screensavers stored?
[22:57] <UnixOne> and this sould be something #kde could answer.. but didn't
[22:57] <lovre> Erthe: ok, thank you for your time :)
[22:57] <Erthe> lovre: np  :)
[22:58] <martynh> Hi all - anyone know if kdevelop4 beta1 has been removed from the intrepid ppa?
[22:58] <lovre> just a quick question, why doesnt my kate upgrade automatically, its on version 3.2.0, i think there is a bigger version....
[22:59] <Erthe> Current version is 3.2.0
[22:59] <drostie> draik_: in your mind. ^_^;;
[22:59] <martynh> I have installed it on my jaunty machine, but apt-get (or adept) don't seem to find kdevelop-kde4 after adding the PPA and (and keys)
[23:00] <drostie> draik_: but seriously, /usr/share/applications/screensavers/ or /usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/ or /usr/lib/xscreensaver or so.
[23:02] <lovre> Erthe: then i turned out dumb :D hehe
[23:02] <Luija> oh my god guys
[23:03] <Luija> i need help
[23:03] <Luija> i am really tired of the problem of ubuntuwith the wifi
[23:03] <Luija> i already do the:
[23:03] <Luija> blacklist ath_hal
[23:03] <Luija> blacklist ath_pci
[23:03] <Erthe> Time for food, bbl.
[23:03] <Luija> thing, but at the 3 days, i am not able to use wifi again
[23:04] <Luija> someone can help me? i am really pissed off
[23:04] <Luija> (i am talking from wired)
[23:04] <drostie> Luija: you're saying that wifi was working, then it stopped working? Or it never started working to begin with, and this is the third day you're working on the problem?
[23:05] <Luija> it worked
[23:05] <Luija> yes
[23:05] <Luija> but
[23:05] <Luija> it stopped
[23:05] <drostie> Okay. What changed between wifi_working and wifi_not_working?
[23:05] <Luija> and there is not a button in my laptop that makes wifi stop working
[23:05] <Luija> than it is not able to use the wifi
[23:05] <Luija> its unable to connect
[23:06] <drostie> No, I mean, what did you do with your computer that stopped wifi from working? What were you doing at around the type that you lost your wireless signal?
[23:06] <Luija> nothing
[23:06] <Luija> i just turn off the latop
[23:06] <Luija> 3 days after it worked
[23:06] <Luija> it stopped
[23:07] <Luija> and router is perfect
[23:07] <cuznt> was there an update inbetween?
[23:07] <jussi01> did you accidentally switch the hardware wireless switch?
[23:08] <drostie> heh. What version of KDE are you running, and how is your wireless network managed? KNetworkManager, or what?
[23:12] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[23:13] <drostie> !hi | MachinTrucChose
[23:13] <drostie> !Zombies
[23:13] <drostie> !Velociraptors
[23:13] <drostie> :-(
[23:14] <MachinTrucChose> how can I make it so that Kubuntu runs two commands ("hamachi start" and "hamachi login") as a "system" service, so that whenever the computer boots up, it does that. (But NOT everytime a user logs in, justr in case that messes up hamachi)
[23:15] <luis__> hello
[23:15] <luis__> i have a little problem
[23:16] <luis__> when i click the turn off the laptop, most of the time, the OS log out, and it turns into a black screen than I manually most turn off, something than is damaging my laptop, can someone help me to solve this?
[23:16] <drostie> MachinTrucChose: possibly with the entries in /etc/init.d or so.
[23:16] <luis__> click the turn off the laptop button*
[23:17] <DaSkreech> luis__: Did you install any services?
[23:18] <MachinTrucChose> drostie: thanks, I'll look into that
[23:18] <DaSkreech> Luija: Does it have a kill switch?
[23:19] <luis__> DaSkreech
[23:19] <luis__> i am not "Luija"
[23:19] <luis__> nop, than i remember nop
[23:19] <luis__> maybe firefox...
[23:19] <drostie> luis__: he knows. There is another person named Luija who was also asking questions, earlier.
[23:19] <luis__> firefoxapps...
[23:19] <luis__> oh, srry DaSkreech :)
[23:20] <luis__> but than i remember no
[23:20] <luis__> appart from the black screen
[23:20] <DaSkreech> luis__: What happens right before the black screen ?
[23:20] <luis__> the OS log off
[23:20] <luis__> than goes to black screen
[23:21] <luis__> also, the music than u can hear when u log in, is not working, BUT, when u log off, i can hear it
[23:21] <luis__> rare...
[23:22]  * DaSkreech blinks
[23:22] <luis__> ?
[23:22] <DaSkreech> So you play music and can't hear it in the desktop
[23:22] <luis__> lol
[23:22] <luis__> no
[23:22] <DaSkreech> but when you logout it starts playing?
[23:22] <luis__> the music
[23:22] <luis__> nono
[23:22] <luis__> when u log off
[23:22] <luis__> u can hear a music
[23:22] <luis__> the music from welcome to kubuntu
[23:23] <luis__> u know what i am talking about?
[23:23] <DaSkreech> Yes
[23:23] <DaSkreech> ok
[23:23] <luis__> sweet
[23:23] <luis__> BUT
[23:23] <luis__> when i log in
[23:23] <luis__> it sounds cut, and it stops
[23:23] <luis__> but when u log off
[23:23] <luis__> u can completely hear it
[23:23] <luis__> rare...
[23:23] <drostie> Ugh, that was weird. I jumped to a TTY and got logged out of my KDE session. --_--;;
[23:24] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know of that but that used to happen on KDE3 cause of a kubuntu bug
[23:24] <DaSkreech> Don't know of it happeneing since KDE4
[23:24] <luis__> crap...
[23:24] <DaSkreech> That's a minor problem though
[23:24] <luis__> so... u dont know a solution so i can hear the welcome music when i log in?
[23:24] <DaSkreech> Your computer won't shut down ?
[23:24] <marcreichelt> hi there
[23:24] <luis__> nop, it wont shut down
[23:24] <luis__> it goes to black screen
[23:25] <luis__> and it remains doing nothing
[23:25] <luis__> i have to manually shut it down, thing than i dont like too much
[23:26] <DaSkreech> luis__: try pressing Ctrl+C when it's on the black screen
[23:26] <DaSkreech> I think something is trying to shutdown and is hung
[23:26] <luis__> but the use of the shut down button is than it shut downs automatically -__-
[23:26] <luis__> let me try and i tell u
[23:26] <marcreichelt> I am using cryptsetup with LUKS to encrypt external USB disks. Where can I define under which path the disks are mounted? Right now I am using /etc/fstab, but I think there must be something like udev doing this...
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> luis__: does sudo shutdown -h now    work?
[23:28] <drostie> marcreichelt: udev isn't respecting the mount points listed in /etc/fstab?
[23:28] <fleo> il y a tu quelqu'un qui parle français ici????
[23:29] <marcreichelt> drostie: it seems so
[23:29] <drostie> !fr | fleo
[23:29] <fleo> ok merci
[23:29] <dash84> clear
[23:29] <dash84> opps.
[23:30] <drostie> hm...
[23:30] <marcreichelt> drostie: if I plug in an encrypted disk, a Qt dialog pops up and asks me for the password
[23:30] <marcreichelt> that is working well
[23:31] <marcreichelt> but after that, another dialog of KDE pops up - when I perform it to mount the partition it fails
[23:31] <marcreichelt> confusingly, a "mount /mnt/mymountpoint" on the console works well
[23:31] <marcreichelt> as by now, I am always opening a console to do the mount
[23:32] <marcreichelt> do you know if there is a solution to say udev which mount point it should use?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> marcreichelt: you can nadd an entry to /etc/fstab
[23:34] <marcreichelt> ActionParsnip: that is what I did
[23:34] <marcreichelt> as I told before ;)
[23:34] <DaSkreech> !fstab
[23:34] <luis__> okay
[23:34] <luis__> the thing i see
[23:34] <luis__> is than sometimes
[23:34] <luis__> it turns into balck screen
[23:34] <luis__> and others it turn oof
[23:34] <luis__> rare
[23:35] <DaSkreech> Yeah I've actually had that happen to me last night
[23:35] <luis__> 50% than it turns off 50% black screen lol
[23:35] <marcreichelt> luis__: do you use a thinkpad?
[23:35] <luis__> what?
[23:36] <marcreichelt> ah, you mean the shutdown process
[23:36] <luis__> yes
[23:36] <marcreichelt> sorry, I've got a different problem with my ThinkPad ;)
[23:37] <marcreichelt> sometimes the screen turns black if the lid is closed
[23:37] <luis__> oh
[23:37] <luis__> ok
[23:37] <marcreichelt> ugly bug
[23:37] <austin> wow
[23:37] <austin> it's a miracle i installed the alpha ver of jaunty
[23:37] <marcreichelt> oh, I meant the screen stays black if the lid is opened ;)
[23:37] <austin> jaunty looks great
[23:39] <DaSkreech> Mooqball: cool
[23:40] <Mooqball> 64 bit ver
[23:40] <Mooqball> too
[23:40] <DaSkreech> luis__: If the ctrl+c works then you ahve service that is ignoring shutdown calls or trying to do something that never stops. That can beasil fixed
[23:40] <drostie> I just tried to do a bit of testing between udev and a usb flash drive, and now the taskbar and "Devices recently plugged in" window have become unresponsive. :-(
[23:42] <student> Evening all
[23:42] <Mooqball> wow 64 bit rocks
[23:42] <dash84> whats so great about 64 bit
[23:42] <Mooqball> dunno looks nice
[23:42] <Mooqball> lol
[23:43] <Mooqball> on my new laptop
[23:43] <dash84> what are you using?
[23:43] <Mooqball> jaunty 64 vit
[23:43] <Mooqball> jaunty 64 built alpha ver
[23:43] <draik_> I installed kcometen4 on my desktop and it is not showing up on the list. Where is the .kss file intended to go?
[23:43] <drostie> jaunty 32-bit looks just as nice, probably. :-P
[23:43] <Mooqball> yeah it's the kde ver
[23:43] <Mooqball> but still
[23:43] <dash84> what is jaunty
[23:43] <Mooqball> next ver of ubuntu
[23:43] <Mooqball> jaunty jackalope
[23:43] <dash84> ohh
[23:43] <drostie> !jaunty
[23:47] <dash84> you got a 64bit laptop?
[23:47] <Mooqball> yeah
[23:47] <drostie> So, puzzle for you guys: I have access to TTYs and Alt-F2, but not to the actual desktop, which has crashed. How do I get back to the Kubuntu login screen and re-login?
[23:48] <dash84> what processor
[23:48] <DaSkreech> drostie: alt+F2 -> plasma
[23:49] <drostie> DaSkreech: does nothing.
[23:49] <DaSkreech> drostie: kde 3 or kde 4 ?
[23:50] <zombine> Anyone know if a xine version compatible with Amarok 2.x is on the repos somewherE?
[23:50] <drostie> DaSkreech: KDE 4.2
[23:50] <DaSkreech> drostie: konsole
[23:51] <drostie> DaSkreech: one step ahead of you. Plasma in Konsole sayeth: plasma(17017): Communication problem with  "plasma" , it probably crashed.
[23:51] <DaSkreech> drostie: run it again
[23:52] <drostie> DaSkreech: yep. ^_^ pkill plasma, plasma worked.
[23:52] <drostie> :-D
[23:52] <DaSkreech> drostie: kquitapp
[23:52] <DaSkreech> kquitapp plasma && plasma
[23:53] <drostie> My way has the word kill in it, and is therefore superior. :-P
[23:53] <pisnaz> Heya folks
[23:54] <DaSkreech> drostie: quitter :-P
[23:54] <pisnaz> ohhhhh a kill command ..fun fun lol
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> kill is better than kill -9
[23:54] <Mooqball> i bet kubuntu will be more popular in 9.04
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Mooqball: depens how you judge popularity
[23:54] <Mooqball> true
[23:54] <pisnaz> you running it atm <ooqball?
[23:55] <zombine> Better yet, how do I install amarok 2 on Intrepid?  Adept tells me that amarok-kde4 requires a version of xine not on the list... Anyone know what's up with that?
[23:55] <pisnaz> Mooqball*
[23:55] <Mooqball> yeah
[23:55] <ricochet> need help - I'm on 8.10/KDE 4.2 via ppa.  I'm running a perforce VCS client, and certain actions (like trying to open a file in the app) results in it not working, and this error is printed to stderr:  /usr/bin/kate: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv
[23:56] <ricochet> googling only turned up fixes for removing nessus libs from ld.conf
[23:56] <ricochet> which I don't have
[23:56] <pisnaz> cool, may have to run it in a VM or such
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> zombine: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/05/howto-install-latest-project-neon.html
[23:57] <drostie> zombine: you can always download the xine .deb manually from the jaunty repository, via packages.ubuntu.com.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> zombine: you wil need to install a deb or find a repo with the new xine
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> zombine: if you are using jaunty you are in the wrong place