[00:00] <Ursinha> wgrant: I see.
[00:00] <Andre_Gondim> thanks :D
[00:00] <Ursinha> wgrant: do you know if there are any docs specifying this stuff?
[00:01] <Ursinha> or if there's a criteria for that, like "now we have 100 updates, let's release a new lang pack"
[00:01] <wgrant> Aha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TranslationLifecycle#Official%20stable%20updates
[00:02] <wgrant> Although that doesn't seem to be strictly followed, and I can't look closely any more because LP is down.
[00:02] <Ursinha> hmm, that's something :) thanks wgrant
[00:03] <wgrant> The LP scheduled outage page still references 'Launchpad News' and news.launchpad.net. I noticed in the changelogs that it was fixed to Launchpad Blog everywhere else.
[00:05] <Ursinha> yes
[00:09]  * wgrant wonders again why at least HTTP branch mirrors don't remain online.
[00:10] <thumper> wgrant: because we don't have a direct mapping to the disk
[00:10] <thumper> wgrant: and it goes through something that has to look at the db
[00:11] <wgrant> thumper: Will read-only-launchpad solve this, then? Or does the fact that the branches are on the filesystem prevent that?
[00:12] <thumper> wgrant: it should solve this
[00:13] <jml> well...
[00:13] <jml> unless we need to upgrade something else involved in the http branch server :)
[00:15] <wgrant> jml: Of course.
[00:18] <jml> Sydney needs more cafes with wifi and power points.
[00:24] <RAOF> jml: That'd be awesome.
[00:25] <spm> jml: I think canberra needs some at all, let alone "more" :-/
[00:25] <wgrant> But it's Canberra...
[00:25] <spm> bite. me. :-P
[00:25]  * wgrant sends spm back to the rollout.
[00:26] <spm> i'm in limbo for a few, while some server side stuff happens, then get busy again. should be back RSN.
[00:26]  * ajmitch recalls wandering around central canberra sometime last year wondering the same thing
[00:27] <jml> ajmitch: Canberra is a mystery, wrapped in a roundabout.
[00:27] <spm> jml: I object to the implication of 'a' roundabout
[00:28] <spm> at least several thousand....
[00:28] <ia> hello. could you tell me, please, when launchpad will be available? how much (approximately) hours LP going to be offline? :-)
[00:28] <jml> ia: until about 0100 UTC
[00:28] <jml> ia: so, for about a half an hour.
[00:28] <jml> ia: the topic will change when it's back up
[00:28] <ia> jml: thanks )
[00:29] <spm> re roundabouts. mind you, flip side. at $job-1, could drive the 25kms to work, only 4 traffic lights. that's pretty sweet.
[00:30] <jml> spm: there are lots of places in Australia where you can drive through 25km of bushland and residential housing with only 4 traffic lights.
[00:30] <spm> point! :-)
[00:32] <spm> I still chuckle recalling cycling home one day, seeing two roo's... *cough* ... working on making a third roo. don't see that in too many cities. :-)
[00:34] <wgrant> Haha.
[00:40] <bdmurray> typo in http://blog.launchpad.net/launchpad-performance-week/roundup-of-the-first-launchpad-performance-week
[00:40] <bdmurray> it's elsewhere
[01:10] <spm> okidoki. most LP things should be back and alive again. actually - been back for a while...
[01:36] <jml> is there a way I can add columns to a bugs search?
[01:47] <wgrant> jml: No.
[01:47] <wgrant> Unless you want to Greasemonkey it up
[02:36] <nhasian> hello, i installed the greasemonkey firefox addon as well as the launchpad-gm-scripts but i cant seem to get the stockreplies to run?
[02:42] <rockstar> nhasian, I think bdmurray writes those.  I don't know much about them.
[02:42] <nhasian> yep i guess i'll just have to wait for bdmurray to return from away
[08:42] <wgrant> al-maisan: Shouldn't builds show up on binary+source copies?
[08:42] <wgrant> Or are they bound to the SPPH?
[08:43] <wgrant> I can't get binaries for https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/2.6.27-11.27, for example.
[08:44] <al-maisan> wgrant: builds are associated with the publishing history..
[08:44] <wgrant> Eww.
[08:45] <wgrant> Well, not eww, but they should somehow be copied over when the source is unembargoed...
[09:16] <hyperair> is it normal for a package to be queued for 2 hours without building?
[09:17] <hyperair> i uploaded this package two hours ago, and i386 is still queued
[09:17] <hyperair> pidgin-libnotify, in http://launchpad.net/~hyperair/+archive/ppa
[09:17] <hyperair> and then i uploaded evolution-indicator 15 minutes ago, and it's DONE
[09:18] <bigjools> hyperair: its score was zero, I've rescored it for you
[09:19] <hyperair> bigjools: thanks
[09:19] <hyperair> bigjools: what's the score thin about anyway?
[09:19] <bigjools> it affects the build queue order
[09:19] <hyperair> i see
[09:19] <hyperair> but how does the score come about?
[09:20] <bigjools> quite a few factors.  I don't know why yours ended up as zero though
[09:20] <bigjools> it's building now
[09:23] <hyperair> ah thanks
[09:23] <hyperair> well i was building quite a few packages
[09:24] <hyperair> maybe that's why?
[09:24] <hyperair> i uploaded around 4 at once
[09:24] <hyperair> and some went on depwait
[09:24] <hyperair> i think that one was one of them
[09:24] <hyperair> then i uploaded another in another ppa. not sure if that one is related though
[09:25] <bigjools> hyperair: ah that makes sense then
[09:25] <hyperair> hmm?
[09:25] <bigjools> depwait
[09:25] <hyperair> well yeah
[09:25] <hyperair> then i triggered a rebuild
[09:25] <hyperair> and it got a score of 0
[09:25] <bigjools> right
[10:18] <apw> is it possible to subscribe to all bugs for a package?
[10:19] <apw> such that one gets email updates for all of them?
[10:29] <james_w> apw: yes
[10:30] <james_w> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<package>
[10:30] <james_w> should have a "subscribe to bug mail" link
[10:30] <apw> ahh, thanks
[11:07] <apostle> how to I unsubscribe to bugs from launchpad
[11:12] <Ng> apostle: visit the web page for the bug and there's an unsubscribe link on the right
[11:19] <apostle> Ng, I can't seem to find  it
[11:19] <apostle> got it
[12:11] <amondo> Milestones for a series used to appear sorted ascending, as in 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, etc... Now they appear in reverse order: 0.3, 0.2, 0.1. Is this a planned feature or some kind of bug?
[12:22] <danilos> amondo: there's a lot of rework going on around milestones and series, this is probably one of those changes, please add comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/38721
[12:22] <amondo> thanks danilos and ubottu
[12:23] <fta> could some lp admin please have a look at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/62386 ?
[12:29] <doko> please could somebody "answer" #62390? somewhat blocking ...
[12:32] <danilos> doko, fta: I'll assign those to our administrators so they can take care of that
[12:38] <doko> danilos: thanks!
[12:48] <cumulus007> hey there, is it possible to set all translation packages of a language to upstream, except for Ubuntu-specific applications?
[13:11] <lool> Hey folks
[13:11] <lool> We have an issue with a blueprint
[13:11] <lool> It was filed under the ubuntu-mobile project, and I wanted to retarget to ubuntu
[13:11] <lool> But that ended up retargetting to ubuntu-drupal
[13:11] <lool> It seems this might be due to project / distribution mismatches
[13:12] <lool> Could someone please confirm I need to file a bug on this, and perhaps would an admin please reassign https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal/+spec/offline-installer to ubuntu?
[13:12] <kiko> there is a bug filed already
[13:12] <kiko> and you can ask a question
[13:12] <kiko> I'll see that it gets done
[13:13] <lool> I can ask a question?  You mean file a new question on this against launchpad or ask here?
[13:14] <kiko> a Question
[13:14] <kiko> I hate that it's confusing to tell people that
[13:17] <lool> (Perhaps you should say a « Launchpad "Question" », anyway we digress)
[13:39] <glade88> I need help with ubuntu mailman (lists.ubuntu.com MLs). Is this the right place?
[13:39] <cumulus007> No
[13:40] <glade88> cumulus007: can you direct me to some place? #mailman is really quiet since about 6 hrs
[13:40] <cumulus007> Mailman is the right place
[13:41] <glade88> 6 hrs and counting, in that case.. tx
[13:43] <cumulus007> try #ubuntu-website or someting
[13:49] <cjwatson> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/groff/main consistently seems to be timing out (which is a bit awkward as I just sent that URL to a mailing list saying "OK, the import is better now")
[13:53] <kiko> beuno, mwhudson, herb: ^^
[13:53] <herb> kiko: restarting loggerhead. should be back in a couple of minutes.
[13:53] <cjwatson> ta
[13:54] <kiko> !#@#!
[13:57] <persia> I've a mistargeted blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal/+spec/offline-installer).  It was targeted somewhere else, and trying to move it to "ubuntu" moved it to "ubuntu-drupal".  I seem unable to retarget it to ubuntu.  Is this something that I can resolve in the UI, something that needs a question, or something that I should learn not to do again?
[13:58] <kiko> persia, lool just asked the same thing
[13:58] <lool> Ah sorry
[13:58] <persia> Right.  I need to read backscroll more carefully.  I thought he asked me to ask :)
[13:59] <lool> I asked you to fix it, I think we raced to the launchpad escalation
[13:59] <persia> lool, You already filed the question?
[13:59] <lool> (Cause you couldn't fix it yourself)
[13:59] <lool> persia: I didn't file the question because kiko told me it would get done
[13:59] <lool> 14:12 < kiko> and you can ask a question
[13:59] <lool> 14:12 < kiko> I'll see that it gets done
[13:59] <lool> Perhaps I misunderstood
[14:00]  * persia goes to file the question, amusing nomenclature aside
[14:00]  * lool blames his en_FR
[14:59] <henninge> cumulus007: There is no such function.
[14:59] <cumulus007> henninge: that's sad
[15:00] <cumulus007> is there a way to use upstream translations?
[15:00] <cjwatson> bazaar.launchpad.net happier now, thans
[15:00] <cjwatson> thanks
[15:01] <henninge> cumulus007: Yes, if a upstream translation is shadowed by a translation done in Launchpad, the upstream one is listed as "packaged".
[15:01] <cumulus007> I know, but can this be applied to a whole package with one click?
[15:01] <henninge> cumulus007: You can just select that to revert.
[15:02] <henninge> cumulus007: No, nor do I think it would be wise.
[15:02] <cumulus007> why not?
[15:02] <henninge> cumulus007: Some translations are changed on purpose for publication in Ubuntu and you would loose those, too.
[15:03] <cumulus007> oh
[15:03] <henninge> cumulus007: I know the dilema, though.
[15:03] <cumulus007> It's horrible :'(
[15:03] <cumulus007> I'm from the Dutch translation team, and our translations are messed up
[15:10] <henninge> cumulus007: we are avoiding this situation now by having uploaded translations override translations in Launchpad *if* there was no previous translation.
[15:10] <cumulus007> henninge: okay. However, I think it would be much better to mark upstream project with a special mark
[15:11] <cumulus007> That mark should be used to avoid translations of that project on launchpad, if the project doesn't have an usptream translation
[15:12] <henninge> cumulus007: ???
[15:12] <cumulus007> henninge: I mean: it shouldn't be possible to translate upstream projects on launchpad, if they have an upstream translation
[15:13] <henninge> cumulus007: Most translation groups that I know carry that as a policy.
[15:13] <henninge> cumulus007: But it is now use forbidding it completely
[15:13] <henninge> .
[15:16] <henninge> cumulus007: sorry, I am also following the meeting on #launchpad-meeting atm.
[15:17] <cumulus007> np ;)
[15:21] <savvas> how much do I have to wait approximately to get a translation .po file from launchpad I confirmed for download?
[15:22] <henninge> savvas: usually no more than 15 min or so.
[15:22] <savvas> thanks henninge
[15:49] <henninge> cumulus007: meeting over ;)
[15:49] <henninge> cumulus007: I was saying ...
[15:50] <henninge> cumulus007: Many packages don't go into Ubuntu in plain vanilla status but with a patch that may contain translatable strings, too.
[15:50] <henninge> cumulus007: These need to be translated but from rosettas point of view, it is just one package - no way to know the difference.
[15:51] <henninge> cumulus007: So with the need to approve translations and Translation Teams in place that know what they are doing, these kind of messes should be a thing of the pass.
[15:52] <henninge> cumulus007: But as I said, I know that it is a pain to clean up the mess ... :-(
[15:52] <cumulus007> especially when a project contains about 10.000 strings
[15:53] <henninge> cumulus007: but are they really all messed up?
[15:53] <henninge> cumulus007: which project is it?
[15:53] <cumulus007> dutch translation
[15:53] <cumulus007> of Ubuntu
[15:53] <henninge> oh ;)
[15:54] <cumulus007> for example, some GNOME user guides are translated by launchpad members instead of using upstream
[15:55] <cumulus007> so, it requires a lot of reviewing to get those manuals back to upstream
[15:57] <henninge> cumulus007: what's the package name of the user guide?
[15:57] <cumulus007> erhm
[15:58] <henninge> gnome-user-guide, got it.
[16:00] <cumulus007> hm, looks like that package is resetted in Jaunty
[16:00] <cumulus007> I can remember that it had a lot of (mostly low-quality) suggestions
[16:00] <cumulus007> the same is for packages like debian-installer, etc.
[16:01] <fbond> Hi, can launchpad be used for private data by companies for internal and/or proprietary software?
[16:03] <henninge> fbond: Yes it can, bac can help you there.
[16:03] <fbond> henninge: Thanks.
[16:03] <fbond> bac: I'm just collecting info at this point.  Is there any page I can read that explains how this might work?
[16:03] <bac> hi fbond :  yes we can host your project.  the details are explained in the FAQ at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/208
[16:04] <fbond> bac: Thanks!
[16:04] <bac> feel free to ping me here if you have any questions.
[16:06] <fbond> bac: If I'm understanding things correctly, private code hosting is not currently possible/allowed?
[16:06] <bac> fbond: actually that FAQ needs to be updated.
[16:06] <bac> yes, we can allow you to have private code hosting and private bugs.
[16:06] <fbond> bac: Hm, interesting.
[16:07] <bac> fbond: those features are not part of our standard offering but we are turning them on as part of a beta program for those features for projects that need them.
[16:08] <fbond> bac: Is there additional cost for these features?
[16:08] <bac> fbond: not at this time.
[16:11] <henninge> cumulus007: Looking at gnome-user-guide I don't see any strings that were changed in Launchpad - they should be their imported orriginal?
[16:11] <henninge> !
[16:36] <rspeer> Hello
[16:37] <rspeer> Is there anyone I can bother to get a mailing list set up for my team (~commonsense)? I know it's pending approval, but we need it soon
[16:38] <rspeer> We're having a "documentation day", and didn't expect that we'd have to wait so long for approval
[16:38] <beuno> rspeer, done
[16:39] <rspeer> Thanks!
[16:40] <swegner> I'm waiting on a VCS import of a previous SVN branch into launchpad.  It has been reviewed and the import page said it finished, but it also seems to imply that the import failed: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pathwords-x/trunk  Is there any way to see the exact failure (if there was one)?
[16:41] <beuno> abentley, ^
[16:44] <abentley> beuno: Sorry, I'm not clear how to find the error.  rockstar?
[16:45]  * rockstar looks
[16:46] <rockstar> swegner, this is odd.  Usually there's a link to the logs.
[16:47] <swegner> rockstar: well it did just finish ~20 minutes ago.. do you think I just need to wait a little bit longer?  (Or alternatively: do you know why it may have failed?)
[16:48] <rockstar> swegner, I don't think waiting a bit will help.  Also, without the log, I'm not sure why it failed.  I'm chasing now.
[16:49] <swegner> rockstar: ok, thanks for your help.  Also, I don't know if it makes any difference, but I put in the import request & have been checking it via Launchpad "edge" version-- if there's a bug it may be in there
[16:50] <rockstar> swegner, are you on some sort of dynamic ip assignment on your svn server?
[16:50] <rockstar> swegner, edge and production are probably identical, since the rollout was yesterday.
[16:51] <swegner> rockstar: yes, this is a SVN repo on my personal computer.  The IP assignment is managed w/ DDNS.  The ports, etc. on the router are opened properly as I can checkout / commit from computers outside my network
[16:53] <rockstar> swegner, yes, I can access it, as can the import machines.
[17:06] <swegner> rockstar: so where do we go from here?  should I try re-submitting, if it was perhaps some one-time irregularity?
[17:07] <rockstar> swegner, I need to find what the problem is first.  It may be easily fixable.
[17:08] <swegner> rockstar: ok, thanks; wasn't sure if you were still looking into it.  let me know if you find anything :)
[18:00] <RainCT> Hey
[18:00] <RainCT> «Unable to obtain lock [...] held by rainct@bazaar.launchpad.net [...] locked 6508 hours, 11 minutes ago»   That must be a record, can I get a prize for it? *g*
[18:04] <Ursinha> rockstar, ^
[18:04] <rockstar> RainCT, that's definitely not a record.  :)
[18:06] <RainCT> bah :P
[18:07] <rockstar> RainCT, you know how to fix that though, right?
[18:08] <RainCT> yep :)
[18:09] <RainCT> rockstar: now seriously, have you considered auto-expiration after 24 hours or something like this?  (I've no idea how resources expensive that would be, if it isn't trivial forget about it, isn't that important after all)
[18:10] <rockstar> RainCT, that'd be a question better for #bzr, but auto expiring locks is a bad idea.  Those locks were acquired for a reason.
[18:11] <RainCT> rockstar: but no activity for over 24 hours clearly means that this reason isn't there anymore
[18:11] <james_w> hey, I'm interested to see the new upstream bug filing links from gmb's blog post, but the post was unfortunately lacking any screenshots or links to give me a clue where to look. Anyone have any idea where I can see them in action?
[18:12] <rockstar> RainCT, how does it know if there's no activity?  It's just a file.
[18:12] <LaserJock> I'm sorta confused by what the new upstream linking behavior is
[18:12] <LaserJock> what can i do now that I couldn't do before?
[18:13] <rockstar> gmb, ^^
[18:14] <RainCT> rockstar: How should I know, I'm not a bzr dev, but surely there's a way to achieve that ;)
[18:14] <RainCT> anyway, just an idea
[18:14] <gmb> james_w: We haven't yet run the script that will make the links work (i.e. the bit where we work out the id of the project on the upstream tracker).
[18:15] <james_w> gmb: aha, so there is nothing to see yet?
[18:15] <gmb> james_w: I'll get that done shortly
[18:15] <rockstar> RainCT, not without making things complicated.  That's like saying "Alert me if this OpenOffice document isn't deleted in 24 hours"
[18:15] <gmb> james_w: Exactly :)
[18:15] <james_w> gmb: well, I look forward to seeing it when it is available :-)
[18:15] <LaserJock> the part I'm having trouble with is "Launchpad will now give you direct links to the bug search and filing forms in a project’s external tracker, so long as Launchpad knows the tracker’s location."
[18:16] <james_w> RainCT: the lock is what records whether there is some action, there are just unfortunately a few bugs where it doesn't quite clean up for itself when it dies at an unfortunate time.
[18:16] <LaserJock> when I hit "Also affects Project" I get 3 options: 1) plug in upstream bug URL 2) email address of upstream I contacted 3)create an empty upstream task
[18:16] <rockstar> RainCT, maybe you're doing an upgrade on the bzr branch that lasts more than 24 hours.
[18:17] <james_w> LaserJock: I assume that you will get a link at the top of the package's bug list to the upstream bug tracker
[18:17] <james_w> LaserJock: and perhaps a new option there
[18:17] <james_w> LaserJock: you missed my question, gmb was responding to me asking where you can see this in action.
[18:17] <RainCT> rockstar: that's why I said "bad activity". and if somebody has to do an update that long, I'm really sorry for him *g*
[18:17] <gmb> james_w, LaserJock: No, not yet.
[18:17] <gmb> Working on that bit :)
[18:18] <LaserJock> gmb: so what's new then?
[18:18] <gmb> james_w, LaserJock The links will appear when you click "also affects project" and choose a project that doesn't use Launchpad.
[18:18] <gmb> You'll then get two links:
[18:18] <gmb> One to the upstream bug filing form
[18:18] <gmb> One to the upstream bug search form
[18:18] <james_w> LaserJock: if you leave gmb alone you'll be able to see the result quicker :-p
[18:19] <LaserJock> james_w: wasn't trying to be pushy :p
[18:19] <LaserJock> I just don't use the "Also affects" stuff generally because I don't find it very useful
[18:19] <gmb> LaserJock, james_w: There are still things to do though. For example, when you click those links we want to pass the summary of the LP bug on to the upstream bug tracker to make searching / filing easier.
[18:19] <LaserJock> so I saw that changes had been made and went to investigage
[18:19] <LaserJock> *investigate
[18:19] <RainCT> LaserJock: so you don't get bugs upstream?
[18:19] <LaserJock> but I can't really tell what's changed
[18:20] <LaserJock> RainCT: I do, I just don't track them in LP
[18:23] <LaserJock> gmb: so the upstream bug filing/search form isn't in yet?
[18:34] <gmb> LaserJock: No, it's in. We just need to run a script server-side to make it work. Bear with me and I'll get that done.
[18:35] <LaserJock> gmb: oh, I see
[18:36] <LaserJock> gmb: so to get it the project must be linked to the package and the project must not use LP, correct?
[18:37] <gmb> LaserJock: No. The project has to be linked to an upstream bug tracker (and therefore not use LP). It doesn't have to be linked to a package though.
[18:38] <LaserJock> gmb: so I still need to say "heah, this package belongs to that project" when I'm creating a new tracker
[18:45] <gmb> LaserJock: No. There's no requirement to link a package to a project when you create a new bug tracker. I mean, it helps, and you can still do it, but as long as the project is linked to the bug tracker Launchpad will work the rest out for you.
[18:46] <LaserJock> hmm, ok
[18:46] <LaserJock> I'll have to play around and try it out some
[18:47] <LaserJock> I'm just used to ignoring the upstream bug trackers
[19:13] <swegner> rockstar: I noticed another VCS import was attempted for https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pathwords-x/trunk but it failed again without a log.  any progress on tracking it down?
[19:14] <rockstar> swegner, not much as of right now.  I'll post something on the whiteboard when I learn what's going on.
[19:16] <swegner> rockstar: ok, great.  thanks again
[19:50] <fta> cprov, you are rebuilding my packages? ;)
[19:50] <cprov> fta: yes, testing the new slave-scanner
[19:52] <thumper> morning
[20:05] <hyperair> is there a way to subscribe to certain source packages' publishings?
[20:05] <hyperair> like every time a package is updated, i get an email
[20:22] <wgrant> hyperair: No..
[20:22] <hyperair> wgrant: damn
[20:23] <hyperair> wgrant: it would be nice though. esp for ppa maintainers who wish to backport from the latest unstable
[20:23] <wgrant> You would think so.
[20:23] <hyperair> i would think so, yes.
[20:23] <hyperair> wouldn't you?
[20:23] <wgrant> Of course.
[20:23] <wgrant> But LP devs apparently disagree.
[20:23] <wgrant> You can always subscribe to $DISTROSERIES-changes and filter.
[20:39] <wgrant> cprov: I like the new named PPA workflow.
[20:39] <wgrant> But doesn't that mean that I can use an unlimited amount of space by creating lots of PPAs?
[20:40] <cprov> wgrant: yes, we are discussing mechanism to block this.
[20:41] <cprov> wgrant: what would you think as a fair policy ?
[20:41] <cprov> wgrant: quotas will continue to be checked per PPA
[20:41] <wgrant> I don't know. I can't see a good solution.
[20:42] <cprov> wgrant: we can be proactive about resource usage related to each single user and act ad-hoc.
[20:43] <wgrant> Pardon?
[20:43] <cprov> wgrant: we could proxy named PPA creation via lp-admins but that would be a burden
[20:43] <wgrant> It would.
[20:43] <wgrant> I don't think that's a good idea at all, as you know.
[20:44] <cprov> wgrant: I meant, that we could check how many named PPAs we have, how much space they are using and adjust their quotas
[20:44] <wgrant> Ah, right.
[20:45] <cprov> so, the original 1GiB would be spread across your named PPAs
[20:46] <wgrant> That seems reasonable.
[20:47] <cprov> wgrant: but that's trick because we have to change the way the quotas work atm.
[20:47] <cprov> wgrant: storing a overall-quota value per Team/Owner and not per PPA.
[20:47] <wgrant> Right, they're a property of the archive now, aren't they?
[20:47] <wgrant> Yes...
[20:48] <cprov> strawman solution would be reducing the default quota progressively according the number of existing named PPAs
[20:49] <cprov> first 1GiB, second 250MiB, ...
[20:49] <wgrant> That would be easier, but probably quite awful.
[20:49] <cprov> wgrant: users would have to request quota increase if necessary
[20:51] <rowinggolfer> newbie question - ignore if innapropriate
[20:51] <rowinggolfer> I have just set up my first project
[20:52] <rowinggolfer> and realised I have cocked up royally
[20:52] <cprov> wgrant: any particular reason why you think decreasing the default quota would be bad ?
[20:52] <rowinggolfer> "https://launchpad.net/rowinggolfer"    should be      "https://launchpad.net/openmolar"
[20:52] <rowinggolfer> any way to change such a low level name?
[20:53] <rowinggolfer> or delete and restart?
[20:54]  * RainCT notes that https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/merge-o-matic/+bug/161762 has oops'ed 7 times in a row :P
[20:54] <cprov> rowinggolfer: open a question in launchpad product requesting it.
[20:54] <rowinggolfer> cprov will do - thanks.
[20:54] <RainCT> (and counting..)
[20:54] <cprov> rowinggolfer: np
[20:55] <rowinggolfer> I feel stupid. but the overall launchpad experience was very positive.
[22:06] <MTecknology> So - how hard is it to get a super project?
[22:12] <swegner> rockstar: it looks like the upload failed one more time, and this time a log is posted
[22:13] <rockstar> swegner, I'm on the phone, but I'll take a look when I'm off.
[22:13] <MTecknology> rockstar: Could you look at question 62447 and 62325 when you get a chance?
[22:13] <rockstar> MTecknology, links are helpful.
[22:13] <swegner> no problem, take your time.  I have an idea of what the problem could be, when you get back
[22:14] <MTecknology> rockstar: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/62447 | https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/62325
[22:15] <rockstar> MTecknology, those are questions for a Launchpad admin, which I am not.
[22:15] <MTecknology> oh...
[22:15] <MTecknology> why was I thinking you were :S
[22:15] <rockstar> MTecknology, I'm just a lowly Launchpad Code hacker.
[22:15] <MTecknology> spm: You around?
[22:19] <MTecknology> mwhudson: are you a rubber ducky?
[22:19] <mwhudson> MTecknology: only on the code tab
[22:19] <MTecknology> oh
[22:19] <spm> MTecknology: am now, was doing the "to school" run. how can I help?
[22:20] <MTecknology> spm: I wanted to bug you about two more questions
[22:20] <MTecknology> and I swear I'll take a break ;)
[22:20] <spm> heh
[22:20] <MTecknology> spm: these questions - https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/62447 | https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/62325
[22:22] <spm> 62325 has been passed onto the person capable of making that call. ie not me or any of the other losas/admins
[22:22] <spm> MTecknology: 62447 - that's for an openid trust root?
[22:23] <MTecknology> oh, I didn't realize he got assigned that
[22:23] <MTecknology> ya
[22:27] <spm> MTecknology: "This image is larger than 400x100 pixels in size." ==> banner that identifies the Relying Party, no larger than 400x100 pixels.  == resize and I'll add.
[22:27] <MTecknology> ok
[22:27] <spm> MTecknology: but url thingy is changed
[22:29] <MTecknology> spm: I thought it was 192x192 :P
[22:29] <spm> MTecknology: I think that's the LP logo, this is the openid one. consistency would be nice, naturally. :-)
[22:30] <MTecknology> hrm?
[22:31] <MTecknology> I just grabbed a link for the image showing on launchpad.net/ubuntu-southdakota
[22:31] <MTecknology> I can increase it to 400x400 if you want
[22:31] <MTecknology> or is that what you meant?
[22:31] <spm> MTecknology: 4x1 - at most, not 4x4
[22:32] <spm> MTecknology: I think said logo is used on the LP openid login page - I may be wrong. ie hereish: https://login.launchpad.net/+openid - subject to what service you're logging into.
[22:33] <MTecknology> oh!
[22:33] <MTecknology> OK!
[22:33] <spm> ie. it doesn't really matter as such
[22:34] <theholyduck> how long time does ppa take to compile a package and gie you access to it after you dput'ed it up?
[22:34] <MTecknology> spm: where should I upload?
[22:34] <spm> MTecknology: anywhere you can, or just email to me directly
[22:34] <MTecknology> ok
[22:35] <MTecknology> spm: http://imagebin.ca/view/3GjJj4ll.html
[22:35] <MTecknology> I just resized to 100x100
[22:36] <spm> MTecknology: cool, that worked
[22:36] <MTecknology> spm: is there any way to get those aliases too?
[22:39] <spm> MTecknology: project is done, I don't think aliases can be applied to teams. or if can, I can't find the UI for it :-/
[22:39] <MTecknology> ok
[22:39] <MTecknology> that makes sense I suppose :P
[22:40] <MTecknology> spm: thanks man - you rock :D
[22:40] <MTecknology> spm: what do you think of that website?
[22:40] <spm> heh, thanks :-)
[22:41] <MTecknology> spm: you wanna say you fixed that so I can properly thank you?
[22:42] <spm> MTecknology: ha. clicked "answered" about 10 secs before you asked :-)
[22:42] <MTecknology> :)
[22:43] <spm> nice site! Drupal? (I hope based on the stuff I've done for guys :-) )
[22:44] <MTecknology> ya, Drupal6
[22:45] <MTecknology> #ubuntu-drupal ; We took the Drupal 5 modules and ported to D6, then Mtcalfe grabbed our ports and worked on them more
[22:45] <MTecknology> spm: you mean the modules or theme?
[22:45] <MTecknology> David Giard made up the theme
[22:46] <MTecknology> for the most part anyway
[22:46] <spm> MTecknology: tbh I'm not sure - just saw the "drupal" part in much of the work I've noticed you doing. my sad/bad for not noticing/investigating further than that.
[22:47] <MTecknology> spm: When it's all tidy I'll bug you about and and make you look?
[22:47] <spm> tried moving my own site to drupal6 last year. was a total disaster. so rolled back to 5. haven't been game to try again, yet.
[22:47] <spm> heh
[22:48] <MTecknology> I'm gonna take off
[22:48] <MTecknology> Food Time!
[22:48] <MTecknology> thanks again
[22:48] <spm> :-) np!
[22:56] <wgrant> danilos: Isn't bug #31665 rather critical, given that Ubuntu is going to have the vast majority of its packages in main soon?
[22:57] <danilos> wgrant: I heard differently (i.e. not much changes except for privilege checking)
[22:58] <wgrant> danilos: AIUI universe is to be merged into main in the Karmic or Karmic+1 timeframe...
[23:05] <danilos> wgrant: ok, then we have different meanings of 'critical' :)
[23:38] <wgrant> danilos: It's more import than Low, which in Launchpad normally means it gets done even less quickly than the Highs which sit around for three years.
[23:38] <wgrant> Not Critical, sure.
[23:39] <danilos> wgrant: provided it's the only solution to the problem
[23:40] <danilos> wgrant: which it most likely isn't, considering how long has it been sitting there