[11:51] <persia> Team meeting in 10 minutes.
[11:56] <ogra> bah, persia files evil bugs in my direction
[13:04] <NCommander> lool, I have experience with running archive builds in an emulator for m68k (as well as running qemu/arm for debugging and stuff ...)
[13:04] <lool> NCommander: Spec first
[13:04] <NCommander> yup, just noting
[13:05] <ogra> and take a look at http://beagleboard.org/project/qemu-omap3/ ...
[13:05] <ogra> it worked reliable in my tests
[13:05] <NCommander> I'm there now
[13:05]  * NCommander had googled for ARMv6 QEMU, but didn't find this
[13:05] <lool> Right, that's the one I had in mind, it's recommended for n810
[13:05] <lool> n810 is currently broken in ubuntu
[13:05] <ogra> but needs the rootfs in flash
[13:05] <ogra> which limits a lot in size
[13:06]  * NCommander compiles omap3 QEMU now
[13:06] <ogra> oh ... twl4030 support seems to have been added now
[13:07] <ogra> so MMC support might actually work
[13:07]  * NCommander searches for a usable kernel binary
[13:07] <ogra> that indeed changes a lot
[13:07] <NCommander> ogra, well I do qemu -hda /dev/USBstick
[13:07] <ogra> http://code.google.com/p/qemu-omap3/wiki/UserManual
[13:07] <ogra> that doesnt help if qemu only adresses flash space inside your usb stick ;)
[13:08] <ogra> but MMC emu should overcome the size restrictions
[13:09] <NCommander> I think I'm going to run into the same issue
[13:09] <NCommander> Kernel and initramfs versions mismatch
[13:09] <ogra> ??
[13:10] <ogra> there are kernel and initramfs links on the page i gave you
[13:10] <NCommander> No, that's not the problem
[13:10] <NCommander> mojo's d-i is based around a .22 kernel
[13:10] <lool> NCommander: Just build the disk and fs support in the kernel; it should actually be in current jaunty kernels
[13:10] <lool> Oh for mojo
[13:10] <NCommander> and udev breaks into many pieces when it tries to probe for devices, breaking partman and making it uninstallable
[13:10] <ogra> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardHandheldsMojo
[13:11] <ogra> Debian Installer QEMU (hasty-armv5el or hasty-armv6el) 
[13:11] <ogra> isnt that what you look for ? 
[13:11] <NCommander> yeah, but QEMU doesn't support arm6el-vfp ...
[13:11] <ogra> qemu-omap3 should
[13:12] <NCommander> they're using qemu in versalite
[13:12] <NCommander> Oh
[13:12] <ogra> versatile 
[13:12] <NCommander> I see
[13:12] <ogra> :)
[13:12] <NCommander> -cpu arm1136
[13:12] <NCommander> O_o;
[13:13] <NCommander> When did QEMU support the cortex-a8
[13:13]  * NCommander sees it on the list of CPUs ...
[13:13] <ogra> since quite a while, though our packaged verysion might not work with that
[13:13] <ogra> i think lool tried
[13:13] <NCommander> I use SVN snapshots
[13:13] <NCommander> lool, remember what I said about doing ARMv6/ARMv7 builds? Forgot about it, it will work just peachy since QEMU has the necessary support.
[13:14] <lool> NCommander: Not sure it's working
[13:14] <NCommander> I'm testing an SVN snapshot
[13:14] <lool> Which is not what we have in the archive
[13:14] <ogra> right
[13:14] <lool> I think you should not be spending time on this
[13:15] <ogra> please test the packaged versions if you want to test 
[13:15] <NCommander> Er, I'm just doing this to build an ARMv6 image
[13:15] <ogra> same as for kexec
[13:15] <ogra> if you find bugs in the packaged versions, file them ... improve what we have instead of always taking upstream directly
[13:15] <ogra> that isnt really helpful
[13:16] <ogra> if lool wants to use EC for that we need to have a package that works
[13:16] <ogra> if we want to use kexec for oftboot loading, it needs to work with our package
[13:16] <lool> NCommander: Oh ok, feel free to try out new qemu for your armv6 research of course
[13:16] <lool> NCommander: Would be nice to fix it in Ubuntu too though
[13:17] <ogra> right
[13:17] <NCommander> I'll look into it later, but if I can finish those benchmarks, its a massive CHECK off my todo list
[13:18] <NCommander> and an ARMv6 kernel boots
[13:18]  * NCommander sighs
[13:18] <NCommander> THis is what I get for googling for ARMv7 vs. specific boards
[13:18]  * NCommander feels like an idiot :-/
[13:18] <ogra> (that whole conversation should be in -arm btw)
[13:18] <lool> ogra: Eh right, I thought we were there
[13:51] <NCommander> Celtiore, ping
[13:53] <NCommander> Celtiore, I was pointed to you as someone who's had luck getting Ubuntu working well on jax10, and I was curious if you had any documentation on the process or could give me some help.
[14:45] <Celtiore> hi NCommander 
[14:47] <Celtiore> http://public.celtiore.fr/aigo-2.6.24-23.img.torrent
[14:47] <Celtiore> and read ho to activte touchscreen : http://www.midwiki.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=53&func=view&catid=4&id=311&limitstart=12
[14:49] <NCommander> Celtiore, how's this different then the base Hardy images if you don't mind me asking
[14:49] <Celtiore> ?
[14:50] <NCommander> What was changed in the image vs. the stock Hardy MID images?
[14:50] <Celtiore> nothing
[14:50] <Celtiore> just add the wifi and touchscreen drivers
[14:51] <Celtiore> but the most important for mid hardware :)
[14:51] <NCommander> ah
[14:51] <NCommander> Right
[14:51] <NCommander> Next stupid question, how can I install this over MIDLinux?
[14:51]  * NCommander has already blown that away on my jax10 ...
[14:51] <amitk> did you save an image?
[14:51] <NCommander> I think I have one somewhere.
[14:51] <amitk> coz you can't download it from anywhere
[14:52] <NCommander> Ouch.
[14:52] <Celtiore> just copy the img on usb-stick anb boot the stick
[14:52] <Celtiore> http://public.celtiore.fr/aigo-2.6.24-23.img.torrent
[14:52] <NCommander> Is that the MIDLINUX image?
[14:53] <Celtiore> no, the ubuntu 2.6.24-23
[14:53] <NCommander> THen what's moblin_install_aigo?
[14:54] <Celtiore> do you have a compal recovery image ?
[14:54] <NCommander> no
[20:09] <plars> anyone here tried and/or succeeded in running Ubuntu on a sony mylo?