/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/02/26/#ubuntu-testing.txt

charlie-tcaI broke something. I can not get the Xubuntu Desktop cd to manual partition04:28
charlie-tcaTrying to get the logs so I can file a bug04:28
charlie-tcabug 33434105:01
ubot4Launchpad bug 334341 in ubiquity "Ubiquity: device or resource busy error message" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33434105:01
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aragood morning :)07:29
aramorning davmor208:23
davmor2ara: Morning08:24
aradavmor2: I am preparing the MM testing day wiki page08:25
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davmor2cool :)08:25
aradavmor2: which applications do you think we should we testing?08:25
aradavmor2: amarok, totem and rhythmbox?08:25
davmor2are you covering kubutnu too?08:25
aradavmor2: what do you think?08:27
aradavmor2: totem and rhythmbox should be enough'08:27
ara?08:27
davmor2ara: If your doing amarok then you need to do dragon player too to round things off08:28
aradavmor2: well, the thing is that testcase wiki are not ready for those08:28
aradavmor2: totem is not migrated either08:28
davmor2ara: I don't think Rhythmbox is either but I can get those done for Monday :)08:29
aradavmor2: so you would go for totem and rhythmbox?08:30
davmor2Yes I think we can concentrate on Kubuntu when we get the test days more on track and involve the Kubuntu team who probably know more about it anyway :)08:31
aradavmor2: ok, do you think in another mm application?08:32
davmor2ara: the only other one would be banshee but that isn't in by default which I think is where we should concentrate for now :)08:33
aradavmor2: ok, let's say then totem and rhythmbox08:33
aradavmor2: apart from the normal test cases, I will see which are the new features, so we can put some efforts also in the new stuff (more fun to test)08:34
davmor2ara: the only other thing would be MM plugins for firefox08:34
davmor2FF should have ogv support now08:34
aradavmor2: maybe for another UTD, maybe. one covering ff plugins :)08:35
davmor2cool :)08:35
davmor2Yay finished rsync time to start testing Baby09:03
arnaud__is it known at what time will alpha5 be released today? Or the time is when it is ready ?09:03
* ara takes a break09:10
davmor2arnaud__: when it's tested and works09:18
davmor2LVM may still be an issue09:42
arnaud__ok, thanks davmor209:44
cjwatsonarnaud__: we never, ever, ever give exact times of day for this09:59
cjwatsonso you can stop asking :-)09:59
arnaud__cjwatson, makes sense!10:56
RiddellI can't seem to log into the iso testing site, can other people?12:05
davmor2Riddell: I'm logged in don't forget to do the confirmation box to see that your not a bot :)12:12
* davmor2 lunch for a bit can't do much else12:39
apwschwuk, can you remind me how to run a specific suite in checkbox ?13:06
apwthe incantion is arcane and i cannot find any docs13:06
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schwukapw: suite ITO a specific question?13:11
apwi have a new suite.txt file i want to test without installing it, i can incant at checkbox to get it to run that only via --config13:12
apwjust can't remember the incationation ... and can find no documentation on config options at all13:12
apwand adding debug to the config object hasn't helped, so .... asking instead13:12
schwukapw: are you using a branch or the installed version?13:13
* ara -> lunch13:13
apwschwuk, am in a branch as it happens13:13
schwukapw: in which case just make sure your .txt is the only file in the suites folder13:16
apwand if i wanted to use an installed version?13:16
apwschwuk, having it in the suites directory doesn't seem to work13:17
apwapw@dm$ ls suites/13:17
apwmanual.txt.in  suspend.txt  suspend.txt.in13:17
apwboth gtk and cli just gather infor and send it to launchpad, no tests run13:18
schwukapw: 2 secs13:18
schwukapw: if it's skipping the tests completely, it might be becuase checkbox_backend is running13:26
schwukhave you got the latest (0.7) version installed?13:26
schwukit's in our PPA (~checkbox-dev)13:26
apwnope not installed at all on this machine13:26
apwi am using the version in the trunk branch13:27
schwukright, run `sudo ./bin/checkbox-backend` in one terminal (or background it)13:27
schwukthen run `./bin/checkbox-gtk` in another13:28
apwthe backend dies13:28
apwdbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Connection ":1.657" is not allowed to own the service "com.ubuntu.checkbox" due to security policies in the configuration file13:28
apwis the front end trying to start that?  and not noticing it blowind up?13:29
schwukIf you want to separate out your suites from the default ones, make a new directory, put your suite in there, and run checkbox-gtk with `--config="checkbox/plugins/suites_info/directories=./my_suite"`13:29
apwschwuk, thats handy thanks13:32
apwnow to find out whats wrong with dbus13:32
schwukNot sure why it's crashing.13:32
schwukJaunty, right?13:32
apwthis is on an intrepid box, i assume some dbus config is missing13:33
apwschwuk, this application is missing some serious error handling13:36
apwif it cannot tell its own backend is missing13:36
schwukapw: noted :)13:36
apwright finally, sorted13:37
schwukWhat was it?13:38
apwi had to hand intstall the checkbox dbus permissiosn13:38
apwas i don't ahve it installed13:39
apwand i also needed to run checkbox as root13:39
apwthough it doesn't tell me that13:39
apwi assume sudo checkbox-gtk is the normal incantion?13:39
schwukOK, I'll raise those with cr3 this afternoon.13:40
* apw is filing bugs, i assume thats the right thing?13:40
schwukWith the new backend (when it's working) you don't need sudo for the main checkbox client.13:40
schwukYes, bugs are good.13:41
apwok cool13:41
apwand that sounds better13:41
apwits not going to be a persistant daemon is it?13:41
schwukapw: AFAIK the backend is instantiated by the DBUS call, but I'm not sure what makes it go away afterwards.13:49
apwmagic :)13:50
schwukor maybe not :)13:50
aradavmor2: how is alpha 5 going?14:54
davmor2ara: :(  Install keeps breaking some sort of races issue14:55
aradavmor2:  :(14:55
davmor2ara: plus side is I get to write docs instead :)14:57
aradavmor2: hehehe :)14:58
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Guest54113hello im very new but been doing lots of reading and i like to sit in this comeing monday and soak up some knowledge and would like to help with testing in the future. I have a newbie ? with my ati wonder capture card i need help configuring would this not be the place for that i guess? my biggest problem with some of irc channels is too much activity and cant follow the screen. well take care all in the unbuntu teasting communi18:45
Guest54113ty18:45
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faderGuest54113: You're more than welcome to sit in and learn (and contribute as you are able!).  You are right though, this channel is probably not the best one to get support.  Your best bet is to ask on #ubuntu and wait a few minutes for someone to help.19:26
faderYou'll also be better served asking specific questions (even if it's something like "How do I configure $foo?") rather than general things like "Can anyone help me with graphics cards?".19:26
Guest54113k thanks fader ill keep that in mind19:28
faderGuest54113: you're welcome :)  Try not to let the traffic on #ubuntu overwhelm you... I realize it can get confusing but it is a good place to get help.19:29
davmor2Guest54113: also you'll find that if someone responds and uses your nick that it will be highlighted in most irc clients19:30
davmor2Guest54113: and don't worry if things go scrolling off the screen either you can simply scroll back up :)19:31
Guest54113right u can scroll but peeps keep entering so fast just goes up up lol19:32
davmor2Guest54113: no when you scroll back up you need to scroll down to get to the end it remains where it is :)19:33
Guest54113talking about nick i like to change to my name in preference say my nick is my name but show up as guest????19:33
faderGuest54113: It varies depending on what IRC client you are using.  If you set a nick in the preferences before logging on but got a "Guest" nick instead, you might have picked a nick that someone else has registered.19:34
faderThough this is also another good topic for #ubuntu ;)19:35
davmor2fader: how you settling in now?19:35
Guest54113k i use xchat19:36
faderdavmor2: Pretty well, I think.  Making a lot more progress on getting the testing working and schwuk has put together some nice reports that we can show off tomorrow.19:36
faderdavmor2: I'm hoping to have a lot more results by then... right now it's a bit scary how many machines we're not testing :/19:37
faderHow's life on your end?  Need a hand with the test scripts or anything?19:37
davmor2fader: no I just needed working cds to test so we're going to have crap coverage this time and then better next :)19:38
faderdavmor2: I can't help you much there, unfortunately :)19:39
davmor2fader: No it's taken the devs a while to fix it :)  But hey that's what I'm here for :)19:39
faderHehe19:40
charlie-tcadavmor2: are they going to respin again or are we good today19:43
charlie-tcaLightning storm this morning took out one of my machines19:44
davmor2charlie-tca: some machines still die during partitioning but there is going to be a report about it rather than a re-spin19:44
davmor2charlie-tca: :(19:45
charlie-tcaThanks19:45
charlie-tcaIt just took a while to get another one up19:45
charlie-tcaStill got four running now19:45
davmor2:) Yay19:45
charlie-tcaI'll keep going19:46
davmor2charlie-tca: Hope it was too costly for you :)19:47
charlie-tcaNo, I have a couple extra sitting around!19:48
davmor2:) Sounds nothing at all like my place then tum, te, tum, te ,tum19:49
charlie-tcaI didn't think anyone else would be the same, haha. Might be good to have one die now and then. :-)19:51
davmor2But only so I can bin it and buy a new one :)19:56
faderIf anyone wants to send me shiny new hardware, I'll happily send them some old cases or 486 motherboards O:-)19:58
charlie-tcagot the old cases and motherboards.20:07
charlie-tcamisread that first. Thought fader would take the old cases20:08
faderHah!  No, I have enough of those, thanks20:08
faderI'm trying to get rid of the junk^Wvaluable antiques.20:08
charlie-tcaI seem to have enough of them "antiques" here.20:12
davmor2No idea what you mean ;)20:14
charlie-tca:-)20:20
davmor2fader: great to know you got some old hw means you can do ltsp test ;)20:32
faderHehe... most of it is too old to have ethernet20:32
faderAnd broken :(20:32
davmor2Isn't that then classed as junk rather than antique :)20:33
faderNah, very valuable... that's why you should let me give it to you as a gift!  Yeah, that's the ticket!20:36
alanbellhi all, I am trying to get Jaunty daily CD using jigdo-lite script but I have 6 packages giving me a 404 error. Anyone else seeing this?21:38
davmor2alanbell: No but then I don't use jigdo sorry21:39
sbeattiealanbell: I'm not using jigdo-lite at the moment, either, but you can then take the nearly finished iso and rsync it the rest of the way off of cdimages.ubuntu.com.21:40
alanbellsbeattie: oh, interesting approach, I didn't realise that would work!21:41
sbeattieyeah, it works quite well, actually.21:42
alanbellso that would be the jaunty-alternate-i386.iso.tmp file then.21:43
alanbelloh, looks like there isn't an alternate CD available at the moment21:45
alanbellguess it is building?21:45
alanbellwould rsyncing my partial alternate CD against the desktop one work or is that a step too far?21:46
alanbellsorry, me being daft. It is there21:47
alanbellso what is the difference between cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current and cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current?21:49
sbeattiedaily-live is the live cd, you want the daily/current to get the alternate cd21:50
sbeattie'rsync -zthhP rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage//daily/current/jaunty-alternate-i386.iso jaunty-alternate-i386.iso.tmp' should work (and then do s/.tmp$//)21:51
alanbellsbeattie: thanks, it appears to be working21:56
alanbellalthough it does look to be taking a long time. not sure it is any quicker than a full download21:57
alanbell 33.84M   4%   92.04kB/s    2:05:3021:58
davmor2alanbell: the first time it isn't however if you just rsync the image from then on it is :)21:58
sbeattiehrm, I guess it depends on what the 6 missing packages were.21:59
alanbelloh well, it will get there in the end21:59
alanbelljigdo seemed like such a great idea22:00
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