[00:00] disassembler: do you mena the command to clear your sessions? rm ~/.cache/sessions/ [00:00] yes. [00:01] Brad450: I don't accept ctcp stuff. Post it on photobucket or something.... [00:03] k [00:05] is the widget factory only for viewing themes? or is it a gui for creating them also? [00:09] will i be forced to leave when i change to GNOME from XFCE [00:12] leave what? [00:13] you have to login/logout, so yes [00:13] pidgin and stuff [00:13] and y are u going from xfce to gnome? seems backwards [00:13] lol iam on my PS3 i think it can handle it [00:14] ok [00:14] iam having ALO ALOT ALOT of problems with XFCE [00:14] sorry to hear [00:14] ya and know its 98% [waiting for headers] [00:14] all in time :0 [00:15] :)* [00:15] lol [00:15] xubuntu is for like low brew computer right [00:15] ? [00:16] what are you guys running xubuntu on?????? [00:17] r1cochet: what you running??? [00:17] I run it on my 400Mhz with 384MB ram, 866Mhz p3 with 512MB ram, 1.4Ghz p4 with 1GB ram, 2.2Ghz Athlon 64 with 3GB ram [00:18] but I might be a little on the extreme side [00:18] wow thats alot of computers lol all yours or you manage them? [00:18] Mine [00:18] all on one KVM switch? [00:18] ive done that lol [00:18] amd 64x2 4400, 2g ram, msi mobo, 2.25tb storage [00:19] I have 4 on a KVM and one by itself [00:19] I actually run 5 systems [00:19] jesus charlie-tca [00:19] ouch man what do you run a server farm? [00:19] He might have a part in it, but I did the work [00:19] Laughing Out Loud [00:19] no, one is a server [00:20] can i install xubuntu w/ out a swap area? [00:20] for like all the others they like channel threw it right? [00:20] yes, Brad450 [00:20] R1cochet: you can , but it is not recommended [00:20] ya i have a system like that at my work [00:20] ok [00:21] Be Back Soon [00:21] The server is for the firewall, file storage, etc [00:21] Also, I do a lot of testing [00:22] i brought the old one home from work it runs fedora. its useless so i parket it under my desk and i use it as a foot warmer NO JOKE XD [00:22] Hey, they should work for that, too [00:23] lol just remove the network car the procesor and the HDD to cut down on consumption and the HIZZ you get and you got a nice toasty foot warmer [00:23] it was one of those dell´s that go under the screen you know? so it fits perfecty [00:24] Yeah, I got one of those out in the garage. I don't use it. [00:24] HEY FOOTWARMER [00:24] Already raising the room temperature about 5 degrees [00:24] lol [00:25] true ever think of liguid cooling some of the machines? [00:25] Thought about it. Seems like a lot of money and work [00:25] ya but you mostly use all those computers for beta testing? [00:25] I just burned up a p3, too [00:26] yes, alpha, beta, and ppa tests [00:26] Like today, install all of Xubuntu and Ubuntu ISO images, using all the methods [00:27] and all the partitioning methods available [00:27] lol i used to do pre-alpha for ubisoft here in montreal it was fun as hell doing testing unannounce video games lol thats the only experience i have [00:28] Yeah, it's similar. Try to find what is broken before the release. I have enough systems to say they worked [00:29] ya but video games are not a nearly as complicated as linux with commands and stuff you have a limit to like 10 buttons you know so i mean it was fairly easy [00:29] and you only need to test on 2 different systems like xbox or playstation not like P3 P4 AMD AT64 [00:33] iam actually in the middle of testing a game right now cant say what it is but iam using linux on my PS3 to hop back and forth into the game and right my bug reports [00:34] I tried working for Sony Playstation for about a year. I am not a gamer, though [00:34] what did you do? [00:34] Technical support [00:35] out in foster city? [00:35] No, outsourced [00:35] The only company that controlled the outsourcers was Sony [00:36] have a buddy over there for developer tech support where u consumer? or dev? [00:36] They insisted on the right to hire and fire us [00:36] consumer [00:36] ya lol they do that to every thing they outsource [00:36] Yes, But no one else was allowed to [00:37] well its just the Japanese way ¨piss us off and your gone¨ [00:38] They also would not allow the company to fire anyone without their okay. [00:38] now that is something ive never herd before usually they think as outsorced employees as catle [00:39] It was really strange. If our company decided they didn't want us anymore, Sony had to say okay for them to let us go. [00:40] what exactly did you do not man the phones i hope? [00:41] Sure, phones. That is the only tech support available. Sony insisted we play games 8 hours a week, too [00:42] wow when i call the tech support for someothing that aint debug the people werent a genius in the gaming world [00:43] what company was sony outsorucing to for tech support [00:43] ? [00:43] That is surprising. At least for Playstation. Sony insisted on 160 hours of training for us. [00:43] No, 4 weeks [00:43] wow thats long lol [00:44] and iam guessing it covered all platforms right? [00:44] And they monitored every call. All playstations. [00:44] ill remember that for later :) [00:44] I quit right about the time the ps3 came out [00:45] They wanted to make sure we were doing things right. [00:47] where you doing all this testing while working for sony? iam sure they could use you for software testing [00:47] No, I wasn't testing then. [00:47] Sony software testers have to be gamers. I don't qualify [00:48] i think they are looking for people to test GUI [00:48] i dont think they want gamers for GUI testing [00:48] They don't limit it to GUI. You have to know the playstation to test it. [00:48] ahh i hear u [00:49] if only the GPU was unlocked on the dam linux side on this machine!!! [00:50] :( [00:50] its a bummer because the gpu has acces to half the darn ram [00:51] Yes, but it works great for games, right? [00:51] ya AMAZING if only i could show the worls what it ti iam testing [00:52] man my keyboard is so senstive that if i hit a leter by going to another it enters it!!!!!!!!!!!! grrrr [00:52] and sometimes it doesnt register [00:52] hate that sensitive a keyboard [00:53] charlie iam urging you to look out at E3 for the game iam testing. its pre alpha and it looks better than any thing ive seen [00:54] i hope they decide to announce it tho [00:54] I don't play games. [00:55] Mahjong is my game [00:55] lol well i tested that LOL its on the playstation store lol funny you brought that up lol testing it got me addicted [00:56] It's one of the few games I really enjoy [00:57] at first i asked for a new assignment it was that or i was off the job for good. so i mean i really had no choice and i got hoocked on it [00:58] It's kind of relaxing after a while [01:00] so sorry [01:00] i left by accident [01:00] any good guis to encocde from dvd to mkv? [01:00] charlie u there [01:00] ?? [01:00] yeah [01:00] k thought i lost you [01:01] No, I'll be here a long time tonight, testing these images [01:01] I run them through virtualbox and hardware, to make sure they are working [01:02] hey ever do testing on security systems? [01:02] no [01:03] looking for some effective sollutions for a client thats been getting alot of ¨trouble¨ lately [01:03] I don't understand them enough [01:03] any suggestions? [01:03] No, I managed to get my own systems secure, but I don't even know if I could reproduce what I have. [01:04] iam totally un secure i have my Ps3 in DMZ in my router iam in deep doodoo lol [01:05] all my debug reports are encrypted and sent printed out and snt by mail iam the only out of house tester for ubisoft in montreal and they have 2000+ employees [01:06] Nice [01:06] Sometimes, we get lucky, huh? [01:06] well my friend got me the job lol hes incharge of Q&A [01:08] lol the only hard part is bug reports in this job cause you need to record the time of the glitch or bug then go into the log wich can get as big as 4 gb each and see whats going on [01:09] Everything has it's drawbacks. The testing is worth the frustration [01:10] well i know that alot of people get a nice gaming experience because of the work i do and that is something i find important when you pay 60$ for a game [01:11] 67-167-117-152 ROCKO is that ur IP [01:11] Exactly. Everytime somebody says "wasn't this tested?", I can honestly answer [01:11] yes it was [01:12] why do you ask Brad450 ? [01:12] because showing it off to the world especially in a IRC channel is not very safe [01:13] would you like a DDoS attack today? [01:14] I know that Brad450 [01:14] what difference does it make Brad450 [01:14] * zoredache points at /who Brad450 [01:14] charlie: you ever here people complain about something you tested does it just piss you off? [01:14] best not to cast stones until you clean up your own details first [01:14] lol nice one lol [01:14] people know your ip when you use bittorrent or any other p2p protocol Brad450 [01:14] i try and stay away from them lol [01:15] I never had a dos attack ever [01:15] No, because the fact it failed for them is not good. Maybe I just became used to it or my hardware is different [01:15] well it isnt like that for games because eveyones hardware is the EXACT same [01:15] Brad450: my ip address is always shown, too. But you won't get to me through it. [01:16] ya thats certain lol [01:16] Most of the time it's shown if you are on Freenode, too [01:17] are you like the guy above my last post or something lol [01:18] when some gamer says that like the framerate sucks or if the game is laggy its like i didnt do a good enough job [01:19] some of it depends on the equipment and some depends on the options they select. [01:20] not really in games everyone has the exact same and on the playstation or xbox resolution has nothing much to do with it since its all upscaled anyways [01:22] can someone help me with installing GNOME in a xfce environment? [01:23] Are you just installing gnome, or the ubuntu-desktop? [01:24] ubuntu desktop lol [01:25] sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop [01:25] no [01:25] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [01:25] After it gets done, before you login, you can pick Xfce or Gnome session [01:26] ahh ok [01:27] ok its done lol [01:27] OK guys, I'm using intrepid here, and I don't see any way of setting up a video overlay in xorg.conf [01:27] xorg.conf is BLANK [01:27] How do you pass arguments to Xorg? [01:27] My video card needs video overlay space to play video. [01:28] You can add them to Xorg.conf the same as always. [01:28] why is the file blank??? [01:29] Are video preferences stored somewhere else??? [01:31] anyone know if linux could work on this http://us.fixstars.com/products/gigaaccel/ [01:33] Brad450 you did not read the specs did you [01:33] it says that it does [01:34] Operating Systems IBM SLOF firmware [01:34] Yellow Dog Enterprise Linux user OS [01:34] I don't want to frakk up my X Server. [01:35] So I am looking for someone with clue to help me with this. [01:35] what do you need msgeek ? [01:35] In the current release of Xubuntu, 8.10, Xorg.conf is BLANK [01:35] Obviously the video configuration info is being stored ELSEWHERE [01:36] I need to set up a video overlay. [01:36] My computer needs it to play DVDs. [01:36] I have all the evil wicked codecs. [01:36] But what I've been getting is an error about BadAlloc [01:36] Which means that by default the video overlay is NOT set up. [01:37] I have been searching Google in vain for an answer to how to set this up in 8.10 [01:37] I know how to do this with Debian Lenny [01:37] xorg is now taken care of by hal, so the file is not used unless you add to it [01:37] how can i go into another session i need to leave this one right?? [01:37] Brad450: yes [01:38] charlie-tca how do you find out what hal is doing with it ? [01:38] no idea [01:38] Is mousepad an editor that adds crap to a file, or is it ASCII clean? [01:38] I like neither Vi nor EMACS. [01:38] mousepad is ASCII clean [01:38] Good. [01:39] So I can edit the xorg.conf in that? [01:39] yes [01:39] Awesome. [01:39] This is my first time using xubuntu, I'm a KDE refugee. [01:39] 4x is just...too...much for a Thinkpad 600x [01:39] It's even too much for a Thinkpad T22 [01:40] So I'm used to the KDE way of doing things. [01:40] However, I *do* like the cleanliness of xubuntu. [01:40] It's very Zen. [01:40] we will try to help you [01:41] Thanx, appreciated. [01:41] So I just add the lines to the blank xorg.conf? [01:42] yes [01:43] Including the headers? [01:43] yes [01:44] First two lines are: [01:44] (check me on this OK) [01:44] !pastebin [01:44] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [01:45] I don't know where to ask this. I need amplification of my cable line to my modem. Can you place amplifiers in series? [01:45] for that [01:45] Device Option "OverlayMem" "820000" [01:45] Device is on a separate line, of course. [01:46] Screen DefaultDepth 16 [01:46] Again, Screen is a separate line [01:47] Display Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" [01:47] Is this all I need in my xorg.conf or do I need other stuffs? [01:47] should be a closing line too? [01:47] And BTW there seems to be odd characters added to the file. [01:48] I'm asking you, Charlie. [01:48] So maybe editing using mousepad might not be so great. [01:48] Suggestions for a good graphical programmer's editor that will play nicely with xubuntu and not be too heavy? [01:49] gedit [01:49] charlie-tca how do you do it? [01:49] how do you find out how hal is handling xorg ? [01:49] do what? [01:50] hahaha iam running ububntu desktop now lol [01:51] rocko: I don't know [01:52] how is that funny Brad450 [01:52] msgeek: you could copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf off the the live cd for 8.10. That will have the correct lines in it. [01:52] lol iam just so happy because everything is working i was having very bad problems before [01:52] Mousepad should not add anything extra to the lines. [01:53] gedit is not showing up in the repository. [01:53] ubuntu is alot easier to use lol [01:53] gnome is made to be extra easy [01:54] msgeek: try text-editor then. It is another name for it [01:54] so much so that it can be annoying for advanced users [01:54] Brad450: That is correct. If it works on your equipment. It is made for beginners [01:54] nm, got gedit via apt-get [01:54] Q: im looking for a gnome-do/kicker like thing for xfce4. any reccs? [01:55] Are you starting the editor with gksu? [01:55] I do have some commandline-fu. [01:55] yuri_: install gnome-do? [01:55] charlie-tca: want to avoid. i have a tiny hdd and it installs 40mb of deps [01:55] I figured as much. coming from KDE, asking for an ASCII editor. [01:55] I'm not a master at it like my boyfriend is but I get by. [01:56] You will do fine [01:56] anyone know of any good P2P clients? [01:56] I'm not sure what gnome-do does, yuri_ [01:57] charlie-tca: its a quick launcher. i hit a hotkey and start typing in what i want and it autocompletes. its similar to alt+f2 but more functional [01:58] I see [01:58] awesome, it's up. It shows up as "text editor" in the menus. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...sometimes when you are dealing with a distro like the ubuntu variants the "made easy" stuff sometimes makes matters worse. [01:59] So I know what I need to do. [01:59] (sweatdrops) [01:59] Thank you guys... [01:59] I know. Gedit is a good editor. lots of options, when you want them. [02:01] Brad450: what kind of things do you want to download? [02:01] any generally usefull apps [02:01] Brad450: for xubuntu? [02:02] Brad450: you want to download applications for xubuntu? [02:02] well iam running ubuntu desktop in xubuntu on PS3 [02:03] is there something that you cannot find in the repositories? [02:03] are you new to linux? [02:03] i need a good P2P client if possible something on par with limewire or frostwire [02:04] lol. those are terrible clients. however, give me a sec [02:05] lol they only ones that the poeple iam sharing with are using its mostly only needs direct link iam sending bug reports threw it [02:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire [02:06] will this run on PS3? or is that really a problem [02:07] if you have the OS installed and are running it, everything should work just like a pc. [02:07] ok thanks man [02:08] can someone tell me how i can "make" a package? i'm trying to install the last.fm player and it's not a .deb extension. [02:08] also, it's not showing up in synaptic. i think it did on the pc i used to have because i had it installed on there and i don't think i compiled it manually. [02:09] if i download something in firefox is it automatically placed on the desktop [02:09] ? [02:11] yea if thats the default... or its in your home dir [02:12] no no its on the desktop like i had it on my windows pc. just that that installins packs was more complecated thna this lol [02:12] wow LAG [02:12] installation packs? [02:13] are you downloading an .EXE? [02:13] sorry i meant that i thought it was more difficult than this [02:13] no lol its .DEB [02:13] apps that you are used to u [02:13] in windows behave more or less the same way across systems [02:14] if they are cross platform, that is [02:14] like firefox [02:15] ok but like when i was thinking about linux a couple months back i thought you had to put in like commands in terminal to get packs (wich you do) but its easy i thought it was like using windows command line something i never use unless iam playing my old DOS games [02:16] you have an outdated perception of linux... everything you say is true but there is a graphical way to do everything in ubuntu [02:16] ok lol frostwire isnt starting? [02:17] AHHHHH i need JAVA [02:17] ok where can i get java lol [02:17] do yourself a favour [02:17] open a terminal [02:17] lol [02:18] type in "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras" [02:19] that should be "ubuntu" not xubuntu === FlareFlare is now known as Flare183 [02:19] is it normal that the terminal background is white? cause it used to be black [02:19] n [02:19] yea your ps3 is going to melt if its white :P [02:19] has anyone in here used the version of xubuntu with the eee customized kernel? [02:20] i know people have [02:20] but how i got no idea [02:20] I'm trying to get my usb set up to install on my eeepc, but the eeexubuntu live cd won't run on my computer to create an installer on the key [02:20] :P [02:20] yuri: what was that you got me to install lol [02:20] in that case, do you know if there is a separate channel for the eeexubuntu project? [02:21] Brad450: its a one command that gets you audio/video codecs, flash, java, truetype fonts, dvd playback and some other stuff [02:22] when i boot from my usb flash drive i get this message: invalid or damaged ... [02:22] nice man that will save me some time on the IRC channels lol "how do i ...." [02:22] yea its the first thing i do when installing a new system [02:22] will this enable youtube playback i had trouble with that [02:22] yes [02:22] ? [02:22] ok kewl [02:22] ty [02:23] np [02:24] i can delete the frostwire packagefrom my desktop right? [02:24] yes [02:24] ok just wanted to clear that up lol [02:25] linux is a little slow when trying to multitask but so would anything with 256mb of ram lol [02:26] on the ps3 that is [02:27] you got vram swap to work? [02:27] when you d/l a large amount of files from the repositories, it tends to be quite resource intensive. packages need to be downloaded, extracted, set-up, linked, keys verified etc etc. [02:28] whats vram swap? [02:28] it enabled the use of the video ram on the ps3 [02:29] enables [02:29] are u serious i thought it was locked? [02:29] no the video card is locked [02:29] thats a whole different thing [02:29] im talking about using the memory in the video card [02:29] ya i thought that meant the ram too ok how do i enable it lol PLZ [02:30] Sw3RvE: they still didnt hack the vid card in the ps3? been a while [02:30] it might only work when using yellowdog tho [02:30] shear: we do have people runnung xubuntu on the eeepc [02:30] HEY JAN you live in quebec? [02:30] yeah [02:30] lol laval [02:30] the province [02:31] where? [02:31] charlie-tca, i think i'm just gonna do the custom kernel myself [02:31] can someone help me fix my bootable usb of xubuntu [02:31] Brad450 montreal [02:31] lol iam in vimont [02:31] when i try to boot it... i get: Invalid or damaged Bootable partition [02:31] rather than use the eeeXubuntu project [02:31] I've installed xubuntu in english how do I get the apps to display french menus? [02:32] Sw3RvE: backup the stuff on your usb drive, and wipe the partition, and repartition+reformat it maybe [02:32] zored i used the app in ubuntu. [02:32] talk to knome when he is here. normally about 6 hours vfrom now [02:32] so is there a command on linux to format the flash drive or do i need to use windows to format it? [02:33] gparted is nice tool for partitioning+formatting [02:33] he is using a different kernel with xubuntu [02:33] or if you are a cli person just use cfdisk + mkfs [02:34] ok frostwire is still not starting up? [02:34] yea im using xubuntu 8.10 xfce [02:34] ill just use windows [02:34] Hello all. I was wondering if someone could assist me with the task of installing Alpha 4 Jaunty on my PS3 [02:35] I just need to get kboot to actually start the process [02:35] that's what I am having trouble with [02:36] now how do i partition the flash drive? or will the app in ubuntu partition it for me? [02:38] Sw3RvE: which tool did you decide to use? [02:38] for which task? [02:38] i formated it using Windows XP. [02:38] in FAT [02:38] is that why it didnt work? [02:39] it was FAT when i put xubuntu on it the first time. [02:39] Brad450: you install xubuntu on a ps3? [02:39] DaGr8Gatzy do you have the OTHEROS file? [02:41] ya then moved over to ubuntu desktop [02:41] like an hour ago lol [02:41] i like xubuntu better. it operates faster. [02:42] ya but iam new to the whole linux and XFCE was giving me some MAJOR desktop issues [02:42] DaGr8Gatzby needs a little help [02:42] no you were giving yourself those issues. lol [02:43] i asked him if he had the otheros files. you need those to install another operating system. [02:43] ya you need the otheros.bld file [02:43] no its 2 files [02:43] thats one of them [02:43] DaGr8Gatzby: see above [02:43] no the self files was in one of the FW updates you dont need tit anymore [02:44] ***.SELF [02:44] all you need is .BLD [02:44] you get a flash drive and make a folder called "PS3" then inside PS3 you make a folder called "otheros" then inside that you have 2 files. the first file is otheros.bld. the second file is otheros.self [02:44] oh [02:45] well i used it and it worked. but yours worked too so either/or [02:45] well i know that sony doesnt supply the link and many guys over on YDL say you dont need it [02:45] and i only put .BLD on my disc and it worked [02:46]