[05:31] <nixternal> at UDS I thought I heard that Edubuntu was going back to being Edubuntu the OS, so there were going to be 2 images. 1 being Edubuntu and the other being the Ubuntu Education addon...is this still true? what does the 9.04 release look like? ogra? I am updating the book chapter for 9.04 :)
[05:32] <nixternal> ogra: never mind that if you don't want to answer...seems Jordan setup a meeting for tomorrow so I shall attend and get my info that way :)
[10:03] <Nubae> hmmm... so how does one edit the network configuration under Jaunty... settings are greyed out by default
[10:04] <Nubae> ah... policy manager...
[15:16] <sbalneav> Morning all
[17:07] <LaserJock> sorry everybody!
[17:09] <LaserJock> anybody here?
[17:10] <LaserJock> RichEd, highvoltage:, sbalneav: ping
[17:10] <highvoltage> pong
[17:10] <highvoltage> evenin' La	
[17:10] <LaserJock> highvoltage: are we having the meeting?
[17:11] <highvoltage> evenin' LaserJock
[17:11] <LaserJock> was I too late?
[17:11] <LaserJock> damn traffic :(
[17:11] <highvoltage> only about 7 minutes
[17:11] <highvoltage> no nothing has happened yet
[17:11] <highvoltage> seems like it's only us so far
[17:11] <LaserJock> :(
[17:12] <highvoltage> LaserJock: have you seen the bug report about how edubuntu should be a standalone CD?
[17:12] <highvoltage> it's weird how quick people are to complain but they don't want to contribute
[17:14] <LaserJock> I did see it
[17:14] <LaserJock> it was a good report though
[17:14] <LaserJock> I at least understood what the guy was saying :-)
[17:16] <sbalneav> Hello
[17:16] <highvoltage> hello scottie
[17:17] <sbalneav> Which bug was this?
[17:17] <highvoltage> Bug 335455
[17:22] <highvoltage> LaserJock: want to talk now or get settled a bit more?
[17:24] <LaserJock> well, I'd like to see RichEd
[17:24] <LaserJock> or ogra
[17:24] <LaserJock> so we have some EC action
[17:25] <Ahmuck-Jr> in truth there is truth in what he's saying
[17:25] <Ahmuck-Jr> a light weight edubuntu light that booted live would be a good thing
[17:25] <LaserJock> there's totally truth in what he's saying
[17:25] <Ahmuck-Jr> i'd be more interested in why GB is so hostile to anything but windows
[17:25] <LaserJock> the problem is that he assumes we don't know that :-)
[17:26] <LaserJock> sbalneav: you up for a little chat in #ubuntu-meeting
[17:26] <LaserJock> ?
[17:27] <LaserJock> we can at least go over where we're at, some status updates
[17:27] <LaserJock> and perhaps if we get ogra or RichEd do some EC work
[17:30] <sbalneav> Sure
[17:48] <nixternal> since I have everyone's attention :)  what is the status of the Edubuntu CDs? add-ons still or is there going to be an OS release as well? Edubuntu or Ubuntu Education Edition? I heard a few things at UDS and just wanted to clarify..I am updating the chapter in the book
[17:49] <LaserJock> heh
[17:49] <LaserJock> Edubuntu is producing the Ubuntu Education CD
[17:49] <LaserJock> no "Edition"
[17:49] <nixternal> still an add-on though?
[17:50] <LaserJock> oh yeah
[17:50] <LaserJock> no way we can do anything much with that
[17:52] <nixternal> groovy, thanks :)
[17:52]  * nixternal notes to add the desktop-kde bit as well
[17:52] <LaserJock> nixternal: is this for Jaunty?
[17:52] <nixternal> yes
[17:53] <LaserJock> we might also get the ability to install Edubuntu from the Ubuntu DVD
[17:53] <LaserJock> I had cjwatson take out the preseeding on the text-based installer
[17:53] <LaserJock> so tasksell pops up
[17:53] <nixternal> nice...do you know if that is going to stick for jaunty yet?
[17:53] <LaserJock> so if you want to get all the edu stuff in one shot you can go that route
[17:53] <LaserJock> no, I don't know for sure
[17:54] <LaserJock> it's got a little bug in it right now
[17:54] <nixternal> gotcha
[17:54] <LaserJock> if that's fixed it should be a go
[18:27] <LaserJock> Ahmuck-Jr: you weren't in the meeting?
[22:13] <ogra> LaserJock, hey
[22:13] <ogra> i was out, just returned
[22:13] <LaserJock> ogra: ah
[22:13] <ogra> i would actually appreciate if someone could take over my EC duties so the EC is actually able to mke decisions
[22:14] <ogra> (mine and RichEds)
[22:14] <LaserJock> yeah, I'd like that for myself too ;-)
[22:14] <LaserJock> no more decisions
[22:14] <LaserJock> :p
[22:14] <ogra> its pretty pointless to have an EC that doesnt make any decision
[22:14] <LaserJock> agreed
[22:14] <ogra> there are a lot of user application
[22:15] <ogra> s
[22:15] <LaserJock> do you know if RichEd for sure is needing replacement
[22:15] <LaserJock> I've seen him in the channel over the last couple days but haven't gotten him to respond
[22:15] <ogra> no idea how much edubuntu work he will do in the future
[22:16] <LaserJock> ok, well, how about I send out an email to edubuntu-devel saying that we need to reform the EC so anybody who wants to resign should
[22:16] <LaserJock> and anybody who wants to be nominated to do so
[22:16] <ogra> sounds ok
[22:17] <ogra> i'd just like to give my position to someone trustworthy how actually can take the time to do some EC work
[22:17] <LaserJock> I'd really like to see sbalneav be in the EC
[22:17] <LaserJock> *hint*
[22:17] <ogra> but effectively there probably should be nominations and elections
[22:18] <ogra> yeah, i'D love to see him replacing myself ;)
[22:18] <ogra> but that will tear out developer time from ltsp .... :)
[22:18] <ogra> not sure thats a god thing
[22:18] <ogra> *good
[22:19] <LaserJock> well, if we can work on our developer community
[22:19]  * ogra wonders if sbalneav realizes we talk about him ... he's so busy in #ltsp :)
[22:19] <LaserJock> so that we have a good 5-10 regular contributors it wouldn't take so much time on the "core" group
[22:19] <ogra> yeah
[22:20] <LaserJock> as long as it's just 1 or 2 people doing everything it's always gonna be rough
[22:20] <ogra> we should switch some adverts that pop up in #ubuntu-motu on a regular base :)
[22:20] <LaserJock> especially if they have a real life
[22:20] <LaserJock> yeah
[22:20] <ogra> an ad-bot :P
[22:20] <LaserJock> well, that was part of why I'd like to do some Universe metapackages
[22:21] <LaserJock> so that there's a place to get some new contributors going
[22:21] <ogra> yeah
[22:22] <LaserJock> if I can get this darn PhD done and find a 9-5 job I'll have more time for teaching contributors :-)