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neversfeldeanybody knoq how moinmoin handles picture size?00:03
Riddellneversfelde: asking on #ubuntu-doc but nobody talking00:09
neversfeldeRiddell: I will improve it tommorow, if Alpha 5 is not released before the evening. In the meantime I added choqoK 0.4 and try to remember what was new after Alpha 400:14
neversfeldeand of course I should go to bed. n800:14
Riddellthanks neversfelde00:15
yao_ziyuancan i compile a kde3 app in gnome?00:44
yao_ziyuane.g. cmake00:44
ScottKJontheEchidna: Your kdeedu fixes are in backports and I'm getting ready to upload to Jaunty as soon as the Alpha freeze is lifted.00:45
yao_ziyuanwhat is kwin-crystal and kde4-style-qtcurve's versions in jaunty?00:46
JontheEchidnaScottK: Ok. Thanks for the update.00:48
JontheEchidnayao_ziyuan: crystal is at 2.0.100:50
yao_ziyuanshould be 2.0.300:50
ScottKyao_ziyuan: Do you know about rmadison?00:50
yao_ziyuanqtcurve should be 0.61.300:50
yao_ziyuanScottK: no00:50
txwikingerIs there still time to get the user management package into Kubuntu?00:50
ScottKyao_ziyuan: It's a script from the devscripts package.00:50
yao_ziyuanScottK: then what?00:50
ScottKtxwikinger: You'd need to get an FFe from Riddell, so up to him.00:51
txwikingerlike is there a realistic chance to get a FFe00:51
txwikingerScottK ok00:51
txwikingerI will talk to him00:51
Riddelltxwikinger: we can get it into universe I'm sure, if it works better than the current stuff a feature freeze exception is pretty likely00:51
txwikingerHi Riddell00:51
ScottKyao_ziyuan: If you install devscripts then you can type rmadison kwin-crystal and it will give you the version of that package in all supported Ubuntu releases.00:51
txwikingerThanks.. I got it working fairly well00:52
yao_ziyuan..00:52
txwikingerSome things are still a little odd, but better than nothing I would think00:52
yao_ziyuanvery geeky00:52
ScottKtxwikinger: We don't have 'nothing' currently, so the question is, is it better?00:53
yao_ziyuanthere are only 2 cross-DE widget styles as far as i know00:54
yao_ziyuanBlueCurve (by RedHat) and QtCurve00:54
yao_ziyuanthese are both documented on wikipedia00:54
txwikingerScottK.. what do we have at the moment?00:55
ScottKWe have KUser.00:55
txwikingerAh... haven't seen that for a long time :D00:57
txwikingerIs there a bug in KCM that if you require root it opens a new window?00:57
JontheEchidnadepends on your definition of bug :P00:58
JontheEchidnaif we didn't launch the module in a kcmshell as root the kcm would be useless00:58
ScottKKUser isn't integrated into systemsettings here.00:58
JontheEchidnaNor here00:59
txwikingerWell.. if I take the require-root out of the desktop file the window stays in the systemsetting frame00:59
txwikingerif I put it back in, it is outside00:59
txwikingerWas Kuser ever integrated in systemsettings?01:00
txwikingerWell... not sure about better... probably pretty much the same as KUser, just that it can be started from systemsetting01:01
JontheEchidnaCurrently expected behavior is that root-requiring kcms are launched in their own kcmshell through kdesudo01:02
JontheEchidnaeventually it'd be nice to get policykit integration so that we don't have to keep that hack around01:03
txwikingerah ok01:04
txwikingerjust wondered if I do something wrong01:05
* txwikinger thinks he needs to hack umbrello a bit01:05
Riddellmm, yes please01:05
seeleyou have a thing for umbrello, huh?01:06
txwikingerI really like using it for factoring01:06
Riddellseele: I do maintain it in theory01:06
txwikingerRiddell: How about support to use an editor of choice for the method bodies :D01:07
* txwikinger is addicted to syntax highlighting01:07
Riddellwell for actual coding you're better off with an IDE01:08
* seele likes visio for it's drawing primitives, not semantics01:08
txwikingerWell.. I am currently coding with umbrello.. works quite well01:08
ScottKIs there a way to get the battery to be smaller than the full height of the taskbar?01:08
Riddelltxwikinger: I'm surprised it's stable enough01:08
RiddellScottK: don't believe so01:08
shtylmanScottK: nope01:08
txwikingerRiddell: It is not01:08
txwikingerI save after every change01:09
txwikingerand it every now and then loses my php contructors01:09
shtylmancan I delete a bazaar branch remotely?01:09
* ScottK would definitely use plasma-widget-battery-small.01:09
shtylmanwithout using launchpad?01:09
Riddellshtylman: don't think so01:10
shtylmandarn01:11
shtylmanim evaluating the feature differences b/t git and bzr and that came up01:11
Riddellshtylman: ask in #bzr to be sure01:11
shtylmanRiddell: will do01:12
JontheEchidnaDo we ship a lastfm plasmoid?01:12
RiddellJontheEchidna: don't know of one01:12
* JontheEchidna goes for the invalid button01:12
JontheEchidnaoh, we do it seems01:12
Riddellwhere?01:13
* txwikinger does not like wildcard imports in python01:13
JontheEchidnaplasma-widget-lastmoid01:13
JontheEchidnatxwikinger: me either :(01:13
JontheEchidnathe inheritance is just confusing01:13
* txwikinger is not sure if he is happy to travel to Italy next month01:15
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Oh, did I ever tell you the results of compressing kdebase-workspace with lzma?01:15
JontheEchidnaWe get ~5 MB01:16
JontheEchidnaIf kdelibs follows the pattern we could probably get 4MB saved with lzma there01:17
RiddellJontheEchidna: nice01:17
Riddelltxwikinger: why not?  what's that for?01:18
JontheEchidnashould we discuss this at the next meeting?01:18
RiddellJontheEchidna: if it works we should just go for it01:18
txwikingerWell... jetlag, travel time01:18
JontheEchidnaWe should make sure that the saved space is worth the increased build time and unpacking time01:18
txwikingerIt is or a conference called Interedition01:18
JontheEchidnaI wasn't able to notice it though, so I think we should go for it01:19
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JontheEchidnaplus it really helps cut down on the -dbg package sizes too01:19
ScottKNow quick, quick, everyone upload and break something.01:19
JontheEchidnalol01:19
JontheEchidnaIn that case, /me goes off to add lzma compression to kdelibs and -workspace in bzr01:21
JontheEchidnairt jr's comment01:21
txwikingerupload or download?01:21
yao_ziyuanfinally making qtcurve/kde3!01:25
yao_ziyuanthen i should copy the folder to the host machine and run sudo make install?01:26
JontheEchidnaThe todo looks nice and green...01:36
yao_ziyuanis there something like nopaste, tinypic but that can let me upload small binaries?01:37
yao_ziyuani made a qtcurve-kde3.deb in the virtual machine and copied it to the host (kubuntu 8.10/kde4.2) and installed successfully01:38
yao_ziyuannow my OOo 3.0.1 uses the latest qtcurve now01:39
yao_ziyuanQtCurve 0.61.2 for KDE3: http://filebin.ca/mtyntc/qtcurve-kde3_0.61.2-0_i386.deb01:40
ScottKSo we've got the feedback page off the release notes.  Does anyone actually look at that or is it pure catharsis for the end user?01:41
seeleoh my, the frantic emails are starting to come in now01:43
JontheEchidnaI read it, not that the fact that I read it matters that much01:43
seele(midnight is a deadline for a major homework)01:44
shtylmanScottK: ive never looked at it...01:44
shtylmanScottK: what we really need is an easier way to give feedback from within the distro01:44
ScottKIt does occur to me that someone ought to.01:44
Riddellfeedback pages comes straight to my inbox01:45
Riddellas does any other page with Kubuntu in its name01:45
shtylmanRiddell: ahh01:46
claydohI think wikis still intimidate some folks (assuming they look)01:46
ScottKOK.  Good.  I've never looked at one before, so I was really hoping someone was.01:46
ScottKNow he shows up.01:46
ScottKclaydoh: We took a stab at release notes.  Please pretty them up.01:47
claydohaw, man, I was avoiding work :)01:47
claydohnot really, family issues.. rather be working01:48
JontheEchidnaScottK: We have libical backported to intrepid, yes?01:52
* JontheEchidna is doing further cleaning of kubuntu-experimental01:53
ScottKNo01:53
JontheEchidnaApparently kdepim is pretty sucky with old versions of libical01:53
ScottKYou can delete kdeedu and cdbs in about 10 minutes.01:53
claydohwow is it me or is that ubiquity map weird? though it was a corrupted image at first till01:54
yao_ziyuanQtCurve 0.61.3 for GTK2: http://filebin.ca/edzvp/qtcurve-gtk2_0.61.3-0_i386.deb01:54
yao_ziyuanQtCurve 0.61.3 for KDE4: http://filebin.ca/foptmu/qtcurve-kde4_0.61.3-0_i386.deb01:55
ScottKJontheEchidna: There's a bunch of Gnome stuff and such that'd need to be tested before we backported libical.01:55
yao_ziyuanDISCLAIMER: i uploaded these binaries from within china to filebin.ca via an insecure connection. use them at your own risk...01:55
JontheEchidnaMeh.01:55
ScottKAnd they are unsigned, so it's insanity.  Don't do it.01:56
ScottKyao_ziyuan: It's very good of you to disclose that.01:57
* JontheEchidna reboots to switch mice02:02
shtylman...02:03
JontheEchidnanevermind, they found another usb mouse02:03
yao_ziyuan1Correction: QtCurve 0.61.3 for GTK2: http://filebin.ca/vdnwqc/qtcurve-gtk2_0.61.3-0_i386.deb02:22
yao_ziyuan1but i strongly recommend you guys to test drive these 3 debs in a virtual machine02:23
JontheEchidnaO.o http://www.google.com/search?q=supported+architectures+ubuntu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-802:26
shtylmanbahahaha02:26
shtylmanJontheEchidna: did you read the release type?02:27
JontheEchidnalol02:28
shtylmanI really hope we get to that02:29
shtylmanand use that name02:29
JontheEchidnalmao: "Kubuntu was also marketed towards Moral Kombat players who are unable to use an applications that starts with 'c'."02:29
shtylmanhahaha02:29
nixternalhola02:29
JontheEchidna"Given the quirky nature of X, GNOME and many OpenGL drivers, this resulted in severe epileptic seizures in some lusers due to a deluge of error messages splashing onto the screen at higher than refresh rate. "02:30
shtylmanlol02:30
JontheEchidnaKinky Kangaroo > Karmic Koala02:30
shtylmanoh indeed02:30
shtylman"nternet Explorer 6, the default web browser in Ubuntu (Courtesy of Microsoft)."02:31
JontheEchidnahaha02:31
shtylmanhahaha "work safe wallpapers"02:31
nixternalhey, kinky kangaroo was mine...I dubbed it during edgy eft :p02:31
shtylmangod...I remember that whole bag of worms02:31
nixternalor maybe dapper02:31
nixternali just saw a presentation template that used the naked wallpaper02:32
JontheEchidnahttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Gnome_desktop.png02:34
shtylmanhahahah02:35
rgreeningI cant wait for Milky Maidens :)02:44
* rgreening hides02:45
shtylmanmy roommate used to call it hardy heroin :)02:45
vorianha02:45
nixternalare we going to release final version with anything newer than kde 4.2.1?02:46
rgreeningnot sure. itll be tight for 4.2.202:47
voriannixternal: we could possibly, 4.2.2 is due out April 1st02:48
JontheEchidnatagged or out?02:49
vorianout the door02:49
JontheEchidnakewl02:49
voriantag is March 25th02:49
vorianso, march 27th :P02:49
shtylmanwhat is in store for 4.2.2?02:49
vorianMOAR bug fixes02:50
shtylmanhaha02:50
shtylmanwell...yes...02:50
shtylmanany new features?02:50
shtylmanprettification?02:50
voriansilly shtylman, new features are for kids02:50
dtchenof course. plasmoid-widget-network-manager will be replaced with plasmoid-widget-dancing-nixternal02:50
JontheEchidnahahaha02:50
vorian\o/02:50
shtylmanvorian: wow....just....wow02:51
vorian~order cookies for shtylman02:51
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to shtylman.02:51
macothere's a kubotu?02:59
macoor is someone having fun with /nick?02:59
vorian~order a cookie for maco02:59
* kubotu slides a cookie down the bar to maco02:59
claydohhow is this:  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha5/Kubuntu03:05
* JontheEchidna expounds on the wonders of Qt 4.503:06
JontheEchidnaand on the risks03:07
vorianclaydoh: looks great03:08
yao_ziyuan1i miss kubuntu/kde3's kicker background very much. hope a kde4 plasma theme can revive it.03:10
Shafqatwas alpha 5 released more than 16 hours ago?03:12
Shafqatbecause thats when i updated my jaunty03:13
* ScottK regrets having read the backscroll and goes to scrub his eyes.03:22
ScottK... grumbles at dtchen for invoking unpleasant imagry.03:22
shtylmanis trackpad scrolling broken for anyone else in jaunty?03:42
macoshtylman: yeah...04:10
macolemme find the bug #04:10
shtylmanmaco: ok...good its not just me...04:13
macoshtylman: i believe its part of this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfree86-driver-synaptics/+bug/32063904:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 320639 in xfree86-driver-synaptics "Touchpad movement problems in 0.99.3" [High,Confirmed]04:14
macoa lot broke and various symptoms have been being fixed slowly04:14
shtylmanweird...seems to be no clear indication of what is going on...04:15
macothat update introduced a bunch of regressions for a bunch of touchpads...not necessarily the same regression on every touchpad though04:16
shtylmanheh04:17
shtylmanwell, hopefully it will be straigtened out...04:17
shtylmanim quite surprised something so major broke..04:18
macothe annoying thing where the left click was acting as middle click is, thankfully, fixed04:18
shtylmandamn...luckily I avoided that04:19
dtchenit's linux vs. hal/devicekit04:22
dtchendon't be surprised; a lot more stuff is going to go haywire04:22
dtchenYES, including sound04:22
dtchen[but not for Kubuntu]04:22
shtylmanis one replacing parts of another? or integration problems?04:23
dtchenboth04:27
shtylmangoodie04:27
yao_ziyuan1when my kubuntu 8.10 exits from a full screen mode,05:24
yao_ziyuan1it will first display my current gnome wallpaper for a second05:24
yao_ziyuan1also, my ksysguard shows 'gnome-screensaver' running. is it normal?05:25
* ScottK doesn't consider it normal to have that stuff even installed.05:26
yao_ziyuan1i have both gnome and kde4 desktops05:27
yao_ziyuan1also: gconfd-205:27
yao_ziyuan1i will see if this also happens in my kubuntu 8.04.2 virtual machine which is initially ubuntu but then with kubuntu-desktop installed05:34
yao_ziyuan1it also has gconfd-2, but no gnome-screensaver05:39
yao_ziyuan1it seems to be here:05:41
yao_ziyuan1yaoziyuan@yaoziyuan-desktop:~$ ls /etc/pam.d05:41
yao_ziyuan1atd   chsh            common-auth      common-session  cups  gdm            gnome-screensaver  kdm     kscreensaver  other   polkit  samba  sudo05:41
yao_ziyuan1chfn  common-account  common-password  cron            cvs   gdm-autologin  kcheckpass         kdm-np  login         passwd  ppp     su05:41
yao_ziyuan1ok. gnome-screensaver is brought up by gnome-settings-daemon05:54
animeshcan anyone tell me that i have kde-3.5.5 installed on ubuntu distro and want to uninstall it what to do??06:46
macoer....what?06:47
macodo you want to go to a newer version of kde?06:47
macoor do you want to go gnome-only?06:47
animeshye a newer version of kde06:49
macowhat version of kubuntu? 7.10?06:50
macoif you upgrade to 8.04 you can get 3.5.9 or kde 406:50
animeshi have already ubuntu 8.04 installed and i used 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' it installed 3.5.5 by default,06:52
a|wen-how do you see it is 3.5.5?06:53
animeshkde-config -v06:55
macoah ok06:56
macokubuntu-kde4-desktop06:56
a|wen-maco: it should be 3.5.10 in hardy06:56
macoa|wen-: maybe not updated?06:57
macoor just incorrect version string06:57
a|wen-animesh: do you want kde3 or kde4 (on hardy only kde3 is fully supported)?06:57
macodpkg -l kdebase-bin06:57
macoto find the version06:58
a|wen-animesh: if you want kde3 then stick to hardy ... if you want kde4 upgrading to intrepid will be my recommendation06:59
animesh ii  kdebase-bin    4:3.5.10-0ubun core binaries for the KDE base module ||/ Name           Version        Description07:00
macoyeah its 3.5.10, not 3.5.507:00
a|wen-everything is as it should be then07:00
animeshplease tell me one thing that hardy does n't supports kde407:01
animeshor supports07:02
macoanimesh: its just that not all of the stuff was converted to kde4 yet for hardy07:02
macolike kmail is still only kde307:02
macoyou can, of course, use it anyway07:03
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cumulus007Is it possible to translate release announcements?10:49
Riddellcumulus007: it's possible but we're not really set up for it10:52
cumulus007Riddell: why not10:53
Riddellcumulus007: well we write them on a wiki at the last minute, wiki isn't great for translations and there's no preparation time10:54
Riddelland our website isn't set up for translations either as far as I know10:54
Riddellcumulus007: which release announcement were you thinking of?10:54
cumulus007Riddell: Alpha's, final releases10:55
cumulus007Riddell: Since Ubuntu attempts to get in touch with as much people as possible, I think release announcements should habe the options to tranlsate them10:56
Riddellcumulus007: right I'm not saying it wouldn't be good, I just can't think of an easy way to do it10:57
Riddellcumulus007: hang around on the channel around release time and we'll ping you as we write it would be the only thing I can think of10:57
cumulus007okay10:57
cumulus007will set it on autojoin :-)10:57
Hobbseeyeowch.  have some upgrades for kde4 and jaunty...11:16
Riddellgot to keep up to date11:17
Hobbseeindeed.11:17
Hobbseethis was last updated sometime before feb 1211:17
Hobbseeer, feb 1011:17
gnomefreakwhat flag is used with update-manager-kde to upgrade to devel release?11:21
gnomefreakseems -d is not a good flag and i dont see man or --help info for it11:21
Hobbseeblargh, akregator11:26
Hobbseewhy does it not put the next article into focus, after you hit delete on the previous article?11:26
* seele yawns11:53
seelei've been noticing more and more quassel users lately.. i dunno if i'm just recognizing them or if there are a lot of kubuntu users or if there are just a lot more of them now :)12:44
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cbri wonder why does qt4's listview stuff lag so hard on my laptop14:20
cbrscrolling lags heavily in dolphin, amarok2 etc14:20
Quintasan\o14:26
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ScottKRiddell: The good news is I backported all the Universe plasmoids to solve the libplasma2/3 problems for people using KDE 4.2 on Intrepid.  The bad news is most of them need New'ing.  Since I uploaded them I shouldn't New them, so over to you ....14:49
Riddellsuper, let me look14:50
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rickspencer3all my meetings for today got cancelled ... I might get a lot done today :)15:03
rickspencer3sebas: Riddell: next Wednesday at 1800UTC? Is that too late?15:13
Riddellfine with me15:14
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rickspencer3hey guyses: I'm going to install Kubuntu alpha 5 on my desktop this weekend ...16:09
rickspencer3anything I should know?16:09
rgreeningthere are some release notes....16:12
rgreeninglet me get the link....16:12
rgreeningrickspencer3: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha5/Kubuntu16:13
rgreeningrickspencer3: have a look at the known issues near the bottom of the page...16:14
rickspencer3thanks rgreening16:16
rickspencer3I did see that16:16
rgreeningother than that. nope. you should be good to go rickspencer316:17
rickspencer3hehe16:17
rickspencer3I'm looking forward to trying Quassel16:18
rgreeningrickspencer3: KDE 4.2.1 will be uploaded in the next week. So, some KDE 4.2.0 issues that remain, may well get resolved.16:18
rickspencer3yeah16:18
rgreeningrickspencer3: when I first tried quallsel, I hated it. Not I really like it.16:19
rickspencer3interesting16:19
rickspencer3what happened?16:19
rgreeningI was a konversation user.... quassel was just different.16:19
rgreeninghowever, seele has helped make this really usable.16:20
jussi01:D16:20
SimeRiddell: thanks for the wad of stickers.16:20
rgreeninglots of changes requested by the quassel team and they made them for us.16:20
* rgreening is still waiting for stickers. must be carrier pidgeon to get to Newfoundland :)16:20
Simergreening: now, once you see how many stickers there are, you will understand why the pidgeons are taking so long. ;-)16:28
rgreeninglol16:28
cumulus007Hi, I'm having random system hangs16:31
cumulus007on Kubuntu Jaunty Alpha 516:31
rgreeningcumulus007: what video card?16:41
cumulus007rgreening: nvidia geforce 9400 GT16:42
rgreeningare you using the nvidia driver or the open source one?16:43
cumulus007nvidia 180.2916:43
rgreeningok16:43
cumulus007nvidia one16:43
rgreeninganything show up in .xsession-errors or /var/log/Xorg.0.log or dmesg?16:43
cumulus007dmesg says nothing about it16:44
rgreeningcumulus007: can you try the vesa driver and see if the problem goes away? Just want to see if it's the vid driver interaction with xserver 1.616:45
cumulus007rgreening: will try that some time, I'm too lazy to do that now :P16:47
rgreeningok, next random freeze then would be a good time :)16:47
cumulus007yep16:47
cumulus007.xsession-errors is huge, but I can't find anything special16:48
apacheloggerhola17:52
smarter_heya apachelogger17:53
Tonio_hi apachelogger17:53
Tonio_rgreening: hve you seen glatzor online those days ?17:54
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: kdelibs and kdebase-workspace got lzma'd17:58
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: already?17:58
JontheEchidnawell, they're going to be next upload17:58
apacheloggersweet17:58
JontheEchidnawe save ~5 MB for kdebase17:58
JontheEchidna-workspace17:58
JontheEchidnaunfortunately the huge wallpaper package barely got smaller at all17:59
apacheloggerthat is for all workspace packages, right?17:59
apacheloggerhm17:59
JontheEchidnatotal saved for all workspace packages17:59
apacheloggerstupid wallpapers17:59
JontheEchidnayeah :/17:59
JontheEchidnathe -bin file dropped from 4 MB to 2 MB though17:59
apacheloggerneato17:59
JontheEchidnas/file/package/g18:00
apacheloggerpackage eventually = file anyway ;-)18:00
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I suppose every package should be tested with lzma for further gain as you go along18:00
apacheloggercould also give a nice save on amarok and possibly mysql18:01
JontheEchidnaIt is somewhat of a pain since you have to add a predepends on a specific version of dpkg to every binary package or else it fails to upload18:01
* apachelogger thinks that is a design flaw within dpkg itself though18:01
JontheEchidnaso I wouldn't go and do it willy-nilly to everything18:01
apacheloggerthere should be a way to define stuff for all packages18:01
apacheloggerlike the section value18:02
JontheEchidnathere should also be a way to only lzma certain packages, like the -dbg ones18:02
JontheEchidnawhich, btw, get ~40-45% smaller18:02
apacheloggerOo18:02
apacheloggerwow18:02
JontheEchidnamaybe 30-3518:03
* JontheEchidna double-checks18:03
JontheEchidnahttps://edge.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+archive/ppa18:03
JontheEchidnaFrom 56 MB to 30 MB18:04
smarter_oh w00t18:04
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: did you base the implementation on cdbs or manually set the value in rules?18:04
JontheEchidna46% saved18:04
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: set the value in rules18:04
apacheloggerhm18:05
JontheEchidnawe should just be able to set it up in cdbs and then set a bool or something18:05
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I would recommend doing that in kde4.mk based on a boolean18:05
apacheloggermakes lzmaification a bit easier :)18:05
rgreeningTonio_: not recently18:06
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quassel208Hi do you guys now how i can log cpu usage ?19:31
quassel208I am having lately in 9.04 heavy loades, its like its freezes, I run on those moments most time java and Wesnoth a game19:32
* Lure is happy that Aurélien will join Canonical19:47
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LureRiddell: now you will not be alone on staff meetings ;-) ^^^19:47
* ScottK just wishes it was for something more likely to actually make Kubuntu better.19:51
* ScottK hopes he can help his peers learn how to work in an open source environment.19:52
LureScottK: it will have to be for better: having another KDE voice on payroll can only help and Aurélien is great (based on his work on gwenview)19:52
ScottKWell from what I've seen so far, while the current Dx design has some nice aspects, I'm not convinced overall it is an improvment.19:54
ScottKI hope it evolves in a better direction before it comes here.19:54
LureScottK: I am with you on that one - I am glad that Kubuntu is behind currently and that this get polished first on Ubuntu/Gnome19:55
JontheEchidna+119:56
LureI do not like the fact that seele's and your's feedback was not properly responded/addressed by Dx team19:56
Lureor at least not publicly19:56
ScottKSo far the only feedback I've gotten is to have the correctness of the current approach explained to me again and again.19:57
ScottKI understand it.19:58
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a|wen-JontheEchidna: about a new kile snapshop... i keep an constantly keep an updated one in my PPA; i'll grap an updated snapshot tomorrow, and look at getting it updated in the archives20:55
rickspencer3Riddell: I'm using Quasel on my fresh Kubuntu Jaunty Alpha 5 install22:00
Nightrosehow do you like it so far rickspencer3?22:01
rickspencer3shiny22:01
Nightrosehehe22:02
rickspencer3KDE has gotten a lot shinier since I tried it last22:02
rickspencer3I plan to use this for my production computer all next week22:02
rickspencer3I also have the UNR setting up on my eee right now22:03
Nightrosecool :)22:03
rickspencer3Nightrose: you're runnng Jaunty, I presume?22:04
Nightrosenope still intrepid on my maschines - I only have two and need both for production right now22:04
rickspencer3hehe22:04
rickspencer3yeah, I actually put Jaunty on a partition22:04
Nightroseah that works yea22:05
rickspencer3if you have the stomach for it, because partitioners sometime fail :)22:06
rgreeningrickspencer3: I run the dev release on my production systems all the time :)22:06
rgreeningbut im crazy22:06
rickspencer3hehe22:06
Nightrosergreening likes it risky ;-)22:06
rickspencer3rgreening: you must see apport a lot22:06
rgreeninglol. yup. but thats how I find and fix stuff22:06
Nightrosergreening++22:07
rgreeningand since I need to develop just as much as I need to program, it makes sense for me to use the system as much as possible22:07
Nightroseoh it's time for cookies i think22:07
rickspencer3yah22:07
Nightrosekubotu: order cookies for rgreening22:07
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to rgreening.22:07
rgreeningmmm.. choco-chip22:07
* rgreening shares will everyone22:08
rickspencer3now I22:30
rickspencer3'm getting kontact set up22:30
rickspencer3(I think)22:31
yao_ziyuanLatest QtCurve. Uploaded via an insecure connection from within China. Use at your own risk.22:34
yao_ziyuanhttp://filebin.ca/vuyjws/qtcurve-kde4_0.61.4-0_i386.deb22:34
yao_ziyuanhttp://filebin.ca/jzejmw/qtcurve-kde3_0.61.3-0_i386.deb22:34
yao_ziyuanhttp://filebin.ca/ybpvhh/qtcurve-gtk2_0.61.4-0_i386.deb22:34
seeleyay i got stickers!23:26
seele~twitter update painting the town blue23:26
kubotustatus updated23:27

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