| neversfelde | anybody knoq how moinmoin handles picture size? | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| Riddell | neversfelde: asking on #ubuntu-doc but nobody talking | 00:09 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: I will improve it tommorow, if Alpha 5 is not released before the evening. In the meantime I added choqoK 0.4 and try to remember what was new after Alpha 4 | 00:14 |
| neversfelde | and of course I should go to bed. n8 | 00:14 |
| Riddell | thanks neversfelde | 00:15 |
| yao_ziyuan | can i compile a kde3 app in gnome? | 00:44 |
| yao_ziyuan | e.g. cmake | 00:44 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Your kdeedu fixes are in backports and I'm getting ready to upload to Jaunty as soon as the Alpha freeze is lifted. | 00:45 |
| yao_ziyuan | what is kwin-crystal and kde4-style-qtcurve's versions in jaunty? | 00:46 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: Ok. Thanks for the update. | 00:48 |
| JontheEchidna | yao_ziyuan: crystal is at 2.0.1 | 00:50 |
| yao_ziyuan | should be 2.0.3 | 00:50 |
| ScottK | yao_ziyuan: Do you know about rmadison? | 00:50 |
| yao_ziyuan | qtcurve should be 0.61.3 | 00:50 |
| yao_ziyuan | ScottK: no | 00:50 |
| txwikinger | Is there still time to get the user management package into Kubuntu? | 00:50 |
| ScottK | yao_ziyuan: It's a script from the devscripts package. | 00:50 |
| yao_ziyuan | ScottK: then what? | 00:50 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: You'd need to get an FFe from Riddell, so up to him. | 00:51 |
| txwikinger | like is there a realistic chance to get a FFe | 00:51 |
| txwikinger | ScottK ok | 00:51 |
| txwikinger | I will talk to him | 00:51 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: we can get it into universe I'm sure, if it works better than the current stuff a feature freeze exception is pretty likely | 00:51 |
| txwikinger | Hi Riddell | 00:51 |
| ScottK | yao_ziyuan: If you install devscripts then you can type rmadison kwin-crystal and it will give you the version of that package in all supported Ubuntu releases. | 00:51 |
| txwikinger | Thanks.. I got it working fairly well | 00:52 |
| yao_ziyuan | .. | 00:52 |
| txwikinger | Some things are still a little odd, but better than nothing I would think | 00:52 |
| yao_ziyuan | very geeky | 00:52 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: We don't have 'nothing' currently, so the question is, is it better? | 00:53 |
| yao_ziyuan | there are only 2 cross-DE widget styles as far as i know | 00:54 |
| yao_ziyuan | BlueCurve (by RedHat) and QtCurve | 00:54 |
| yao_ziyuan | these are both documented on wikipedia | 00:54 |
| txwikinger | ScottK.. what do we have at the moment? | 00:55 |
| ScottK | We have KUser. | 00:55 |
| txwikinger | Ah... haven't seen that for a long time :D | 00:57 |
| txwikinger | Is there a bug in KCM that if you require root it opens a new window? | 00:57 |
| JontheEchidna | depends on your definition of bug :P | 00:58 |
| JontheEchidna | if we didn't launch the module in a kcmshell as root the kcm would be useless | 00:58 |
| ScottK | KUser isn't integrated into systemsettings here. | 00:58 |
| JontheEchidna | Nor here | 00:59 |
| txwikinger | Well.. if I take the require-root out of the desktop file the window stays in the systemsetting frame | 00:59 |
| txwikinger | if I put it back in, it is outside | 00:59 |
| txwikinger | Was Kuser ever integrated in systemsettings? | 01:00 |
| txwikinger | Well... not sure about better... probably pretty much the same as KUser, just that it can be started from systemsetting | 01:01 |
| JontheEchidna | Currently expected behavior is that root-requiring kcms are launched in their own kcmshell through kdesudo | 01:02 |
| JontheEchidna | eventually it'd be nice to get policykit integration so that we don't have to keep that hack around | 01:03 |
| txwikinger | ah ok | 01:04 |
| txwikinger | just wondered if I do something wrong | 01:05 |
| * txwikinger thinks he needs to hack umbrello a bit | 01:05 | |
| Riddell | mm, yes please | 01:05 |
| seele | you have a thing for umbrello, huh? | 01:06 |
| txwikinger | I really like using it for factoring | 01:06 |
| Riddell | seele: I do maintain it in theory | 01:06 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: How about support to use an editor of choice for the method bodies :D | 01:07 |
| * txwikinger is addicted to syntax highlighting | 01:07 | |
| Riddell | well for actual coding you're better off with an IDE | 01:08 |
| * seele likes visio for it's drawing primitives, not semantics | 01:08 | |
| txwikinger | Well.. I am currently coding with umbrello.. works quite well | 01:08 |
| ScottK | Is there a way to get the battery to be smaller than the full height of the taskbar? | 01:08 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: I'm surprised it's stable enough | 01:08 |
| Riddell | ScottK: don't believe so | 01:08 |
| shtylman | ScottK: nope | 01:08 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: It is not | 01:08 |
| txwikinger | I save after every change | 01:09 |
| txwikinger | and it every now and then loses my php contructors | 01:09 |
| shtylman | can I delete a bazaar branch remotely? | 01:09 |
| * ScottK would definitely use plasma-widget-battery-small. | 01:09 | |
| shtylman | without using launchpad? | 01:09 |
| Riddell | shtylman: don't think so | 01:10 |
| shtylman | darn | 01:11 |
| shtylman | im evaluating the feature differences b/t git and bzr and that came up | 01:11 |
| Riddell | shtylman: ask in #bzr to be sure | 01:11 |
| shtylman | Riddell: will do | 01:12 |
| JontheEchidna | Do we ship a lastfm plasmoid? | 01:12 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: don't know of one | 01:12 |
| * JontheEchidna goes for the invalid button | 01:12 | |
| JontheEchidna | oh, we do it seems | 01:12 |
| Riddell | where? | 01:13 |
| * txwikinger does not like wildcard imports in python | 01:13 | |
| JontheEchidna | plasma-widget-lastmoid | 01:13 |
| JontheEchidna | txwikinger: me either :( | 01:13 |
| JontheEchidna | the inheritance is just confusing | 01:13 |
| * txwikinger is not sure if he is happy to travel to Italy next month | 01:15 | |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: Oh, did I ever tell you the results of compressing kdebase-workspace with lzma? | 01:15 |
| JontheEchidna | We get ~5 MB | 01:16 |
| JontheEchidna | If kdelibs follows the pattern we could probably get 4MB saved with lzma there | 01:17 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: nice | 01:17 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: why not? what's that for? | 01:18 |
| JontheEchidna | should we discuss this at the next meeting? | 01:18 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: if it works we should just go for it | 01:18 |
| txwikinger | Well... jetlag, travel time | 01:18 |
| JontheEchidna | We should make sure that the saved space is worth the increased build time and unpacking time | 01:18 |
| txwikinger | It is or a conference called Interedition | 01:18 |
| JontheEchidna | I wasn't able to notice it though, so I think we should go for it | 01:19 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu Development | Alpha-5 released! | 8.04.2 released! - http://www.kubuntu.org/node/69 | Feature Freeze in effect - Fix bugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | ||
| JontheEchidna | plus it really helps cut down on the -dbg package sizes too | 01:19 |
| ScottK | Now quick, quick, everyone upload and break something. | 01:19 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 01:19 |
| JontheEchidna | In that case, /me goes off to add lzma compression to kdelibs and -workspace in bzr | 01:21 |
| JontheEchidna | irt jr's comment | 01:21 |
| txwikinger | upload or download? | 01:21 |
| yao_ziyuan | finally making qtcurve/kde3! | 01:25 |
| yao_ziyuan | then i should copy the folder to the host machine and run sudo make install? | 01:26 |
| JontheEchidna | The todo looks nice and green... | 01:36 |
| yao_ziyuan | is there something like nopaste, tinypic but that can let me upload small binaries? | 01:37 |
| yao_ziyuan | i made a qtcurve-kde3.deb in the virtual machine and copied it to the host (kubuntu 8.10/kde4.2) and installed successfully | 01:38 |
| yao_ziyuan | now my OOo 3.0.1 uses the latest qtcurve now | 01:39 |
| yao_ziyuan | QtCurve 0.61.2 for KDE3: http://filebin.ca/mtyntc/qtcurve-kde3_0.61.2-0_i386.deb | 01:40 |
| ScottK | So we've got the feedback page off the release notes. Does anyone actually look at that or is it pure catharsis for the end user? | 01:41 |
| seele | oh my, the frantic emails are starting to come in now | 01:43 |
| JontheEchidna | I read it, not that the fact that I read it matters that much | 01:43 |
| seele | (midnight is a deadline for a major homework) | 01:44 |
| shtylman | ScottK: ive never looked at it... | 01:44 |
| shtylman | ScottK: what we really need is an easier way to give feedback from within the distro | 01:44 |
| ScottK | It does occur to me that someone ought to. | 01:44 |
| Riddell | feedback pages comes straight to my inbox | 01:45 |
| Riddell | as does any other page with Kubuntu in its name | 01:45 |
| shtylman | Riddell: ahh | 01:46 |
| claydoh | I think wikis still intimidate some folks (assuming they look) | 01:46 |
| ScottK | OK. Good. I've never looked at one before, so I was really hoping someone was. | 01:46 |
| ScottK | Now he shows up. | 01:46 |
| ScottK | claydoh: We took a stab at release notes. Please pretty them up. | 01:47 |
| claydoh | aw, man, I was avoiding work :) | 01:47 |
| claydoh | not really, family issues.. rather be working | 01:48 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: We have libical backported to intrepid, yes? | 01:52 |
| * JontheEchidna is doing further cleaning of kubuntu-experimental | 01:53 | |
| ScottK | No | 01:53 |
| JontheEchidna | Apparently kdepim is pretty sucky with old versions of libical | 01:53 |
| ScottK | You can delete kdeedu and cdbs in about 10 minutes. | 01:53 |
| claydoh | wow is it me or is that ubiquity map weird? though it was a corrupted image at first till | 01:54 |
| yao_ziyuan | QtCurve 0.61.3 for GTK2: http://filebin.ca/edzvp/qtcurve-gtk2_0.61.3-0_i386.deb | 01:54 |
| yao_ziyuan | QtCurve 0.61.3 for KDE4: http://filebin.ca/foptmu/qtcurve-kde4_0.61.3-0_i386.deb | 01:55 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: There's a bunch of Gnome stuff and such that'd need to be tested before we backported libical. | 01:55 |
| yao_ziyuan | DISCLAIMER: i uploaded these binaries from within china to filebin.ca via an insecure connection. use them at your own risk... | 01:55 |
| JontheEchidna | Meh. | 01:55 |
| ScottK | And they are unsigned, so it's insanity. Don't do it. | 01:56 |
| ScottK | yao_ziyuan: It's very good of you to disclose that. | 01:57 |
| * JontheEchidna reboots to switch mice | 02:02 | |
| shtylman | ... | 02:03 |
| JontheEchidna | nevermind, they found another usb mouse | 02:03 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | Correction: QtCurve 0.61.3 for GTK2: http://filebin.ca/vdnwqc/qtcurve-gtk2_0.61.3-0_i386.deb | 02:22 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | but i strongly recommend you guys to test drive these 3 debs in a virtual machine | 02:23 |
| JontheEchidna | O.o http://www.google.com/search?q=supported+architectures+ubuntu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 | 02:26 |
| shtylman | bahahaha | 02:26 |
| shtylman | JontheEchidna: did you read the release type? | 02:27 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 02:28 |
| shtylman | I really hope we get to that | 02:29 |
| shtylman | and use that name | 02:29 |
| JontheEchidna | lmao: "Kubuntu was also marketed towards Moral Kombat players who are unable to use an applications that starts with 'c'." | 02:29 |
| shtylman | hahaha | 02:29 |
| nixternal | hola | 02:29 |
| JontheEchidna | "Given the quirky nature of X, GNOME and many OpenGL drivers, this resulted in severe epileptic seizures in some lusers due to a deluge of error messages splashing onto the screen at higher than refresh rate. " | 02:30 |
| shtylman | lol | 02:30 |
| JontheEchidna | Kinky Kangaroo > Karmic Koala | 02:30 |
| shtylman | oh indeed | 02:30 |
| shtylman | "nternet Explorer 6, the default web browser in Ubuntu (Courtesy of Microsoft)." | 02:31 |
| JontheEchidna | haha | 02:31 |
| shtylman | hahaha "work safe wallpapers" | 02:31 |
| nixternal | hey, kinky kangaroo was mine...I dubbed it during edgy eft :p | 02:31 |
| shtylman | god...I remember that whole bag of worms | 02:31 |
| nixternal | or maybe dapper | 02:31 |
| nixternal | i just saw a presentation template that used the naked wallpaper | 02:32 |
| JontheEchidna | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Gnome_desktop.png | 02:34 |
| shtylman | hahahah | 02:35 |
| rgreening | I cant wait for Milky Maidens :) | 02:44 |
| * rgreening hides | 02:45 | |
| shtylman | my roommate used to call it hardy heroin :) | 02:45 |
| vorian | ha | 02:45 |
| nixternal | are we going to release final version with anything newer than kde 4.2.1? | 02:46 |
| rgreening | not sure. itll be tight for 4.2.2 | 02:47 |
| vorian | nixternal: we could possibly, 4.2.2 is due out April 1st | 02:48 |
| JontheEchidna | tagged or out? | 02:49 |
| vorian | out the door | 02:49 |
| JontheEchidna | kewl | 02:49 |
| vorian | tag is March 25th | 02:49 |
| vorian | so, march 27th :P | 02:49 |
| shtylman | what is in store for 4.2.2? | 02:49 |
| vorian | MOAR bug fixes | 02:50 |
| shtylman | haha | 02:50 |
| shtylman | well...yes... | 02:50 |
| shtylman | any new features? | 02:50 |
| shtylman | prettification? | 02:50 |
| vorian | silly shtylman, new features are for kids | 02:50 |
| dtchen | of course. plasmoid-widget-network-manager will be replaced with plasmoid-widget-dancing-nixternal | 02:50 |
| JontheEchidna | hahaha | 02:50 |
| vorian | \o/ | 02:50 |
| shtylman | vorian: wow....just....wow | 02:51 |
| vorian | ~order cookies for shtylman | 02:51 |
| * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to shtylman. | 02:51 | |
| maco | there's a kubotu? | 02:59 |
| maco | or is someone having fun with /nick? | 02:59 |
| vorian | ~order a cookie for maco | 02:59 |
| * kubotu slides a cookie down the bar to maco | 02:59 | |
| claydoh | how is this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha5/Kubuntu | 03:05 |
| * JontheEchidna expounds on the wonders of Qt 4.5 | 03:06 | |
| JontheEchidna | and on the risks | 03:07 |
| vorian | claydoh: looks great | 03:08 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | i miss kubuntu/kde3's kicker background very much. hope a kde4 plasma theme can revive it. | 03:10 |
| Shafqat | was alpha 5 released more than 16 hours ago? | 03:12 |
| Shafqat | because thats when i updated my jaunty | 03:13 |
| * ScottK regrets having read the backscroll and goes to scrub his eyes. | 03:22 | |
| ScottK | ... grumbles at dtchen for invoking unpleasant imagry. | 03:22 |
| shtylman | is trackpad scrolling broken for anyone else in jaunty? | 03:42 |
| maco | shtylman: yeah... | 04:10 |
| maco | lemme find the bug # | 04:10 |
| shtylman | maco: ok...good its not just me... | 04:13 |
| maco | shtylman: i believe its part of this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfree86-driver-synaptics/+bug/320639 | 04:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 320639 in xfree86-driver-synaptics "Touchpad movement problems in 0.99.3" [High,Confirmed] | 04:14 |
| maco | a lot broke and various symptoms have been being fixed slowly | 04:14 |
| shtylman | weird...seems to be no clear indication of what is going on... | 04:15 |
| maco | that update introduced a bunch of regressions for a bunch of touchpads...not necessarily the same regression on every touchpad though | 04:16 |
| shtylman | heh | 04:17 |
| shtylman | well, hopefully it will be straigtened out... | 04:17 |
| shtylman | im quite surprised something so major broke.. | 04:18 |
| maco | the annoying thing where the left click was acting as middle click is, thankfully, fixed | 04:18 |
| shtylman | damn...luckily I avoided that | 04:19 |
| dtchen | it's linux vs. hal/devicekit | 04:22 |
| dtchen | don't be surprised; a lot more stuff is going to go haywire | 04:22 |
| dtchen | YES, including sound | 04:22 |
| dtchen | [but not for Kubuntu] | 04:22 |
| shtylman | is one replacing parts of another? or integration problems? | 04:23 |
| dtchen | both | 04:27 |
| shtylman | goodie | 04:27 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | when my kubuntu 8.10 exits from a full screen mode, | 05:24 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | it will first display my current gnome wallpaper for a second | 05:24 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | also, my ksysguard shows 'gnome-screensaver' running. is it normal? | 05:25 |
| * ScottK doesn't consider it normal to have that stuff even installed. | 05:26 | |
| yao_ziyuan1 | i have both gnome and kde4 desktops | 05:27 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | also: gconfd-2 | 05:27 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | i will see if this also happens in my kubuntu 8.04.2 virtual machine which is initially ubuntu but then with kubuntu-desktop installed | 05:34 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | it also has gconfd-2, but no gnome-screensaver | 05:39 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | it seems to be here: | 05:41 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | yaoziyuan@yaoziyuan-desktop:~$ ls /etc/pam.d | 05:41 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | atd chsh common-auth common-session cups gdm gnome-screensaver kdm kscreensaver other polkit samba sudo | 05:41 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | chfn common-account common-password cron cvs gdm-autologin kcheckpass kdm-np login passwd ppp su | 05:41 |
| yao_ziyuan1 | ok. gnome-screensaver is brought up by gnome-settings-daemon | 05:54 |
| animesh | can anyone tell me that i have kde-3.5.5 installed on ubuntu distro and want to uninstall it what to do?? | 06:46 |
| maco | er....what? | 06:47 |
| maco | do you want to go to a newer version of kde? | 06:47 |
| maco | or do you want to go gnome-only? | 06:47 |
| animesh | ye a newer version of kde | 06:49 |
| maco | what version of kubuntu? 7.10? | 06:50 |
| maco | if you upgrade to 8.04 you can get 3.5.9 or kde 4 | 06:50 |
| animesh | i have already ubuntu 8.04 installed and i used 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' it installed 3.5.5 by default, | 06:52 |
| a|wen- | how do you see it is 3.5.5? | 06:53 |
| animesh | kde-config -v | 06:55 |
| maco | ah ok | 06:56 |
| maco | kubuntu-kde4-desktop | 06:56 |
| a|wen- | maco: it should be 3.5.10 in hardy | 06:56 |
| maco | a|wen-: maybe not updated? | 06:57 |
| maco | or just incorrect version string | 06:57 |
| a|wen- | animesh: do you want kde3 or kde4 (on hardy only kde3 is fully supported)? | 06:57 |
| maco | dpkg -l kdebase-bin | 06:57 |
| maco | to find the version | 06:58 |
| a|wen- | animesh: if you want kde3 then stick to hardy ... if you want kde4 upgrading to intrepid will be my recommendation | 06:59 |
| animesh | ii kdebase-bin 4:3.5.10-0ubun core binaries for the KDE base module ||/ Name Version Description | 07:00 |
| maco | yeah its 3.5.10, not 3.5.5 | 07:00 |
| a|wen- | everything is as it should be then | 07:00 |
| animesh | please tell me one thing that hardy does n't supports kde4 | 07:01 |
| animesh | or supports | 07:02 |
| maco | animesh: its just that not all of the stuff was converted to kde4 yet for hardy | 07:02 |
| maco | like kmail is still only kde3 | 07:02 |
| maco | you can, of course, use it anyway | 07:03 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| cumulus007 | Is it possible to translate release announcements? | 10:49 |
| Riddell | cumulus007: it's possible but we're not really set up for it | 10:52 |
| cumulus007 | Riddell: why not | 10:53 |
| Riddell | cumulus007: well we write them on a wiki at the last minute, wiki isn't great for translations and there's no preparation time | 10:54 |
| Riddell | and our website isn't set up for translations either as far as I know | 10:54 |
| Riddell | cumulus007: which release announcement were you thinking of? | 10:54 |
| cumulus007 | Riddell: Alpha's, final releases | 10:55 |
| cumulus007 | Riddell: Since Ubuntu attempts to get in touch with as much people as possible, I think release announcements should habe the options to tranlsate them | 10:56 |
| Riddell | cumulus007: right I'm not saying it wouldn't be good, I just can't think of an easy way to do it | 10:57 |
| Riddell | cumulus007: hang around on the channel around release time and we'll ping you as we write it would be the only thing I can think of | 10:57 |
| cumulus007 | okay | 10:57 |
| cumulus007 | will set it on autojoin :-) | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | yeowch. have some upgrades for kde4 and jaunty... | 11:16 |
| Riddell | got to keep up to date | 11:17 |
| Hobbsee | indeed. | 11:17 |
| Hobbsee | this was last updated sometime before feb 12 | 11:17 |
| Hobbsee | er, feb 10 | 11:17 |
| gnomefreak | what flag is used with update-manager-kde to upgrade to devel release? | 11:21 |
| gnomefreak | seems -d is not a good flag and i dont see man or --help info for it | 11:21 |
| Hobbsee | blargh, akregator | 11:26 |
| Hobbsee | why does it not put the next article into focus, after you hit delete on the previous article? | 11:26 |
| * seele yawns | 11:53 | |
| seele | i've been noticing more and more quassel users lately.. i dunno if i'm just recognizing them or if there are a lot of kubuntu users or if there are just a lot more of them now :) | 12:44 |
| === milian__ is now known as milian | ||
| cbr | i wonder why does qt4's listview stuff lag so hard on my laptop | 14:20 |
| cbr | scrolling lags heavily in dolphin, amarok2 etc | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | \o | 14:26 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| ScottK | Riddell: The good news is I backported all the Universe plasmoids to solve the libplasma2/3 problems for people using KDE 4.2 on Intrepid. The bad news is most of them need New'ing. Since I uploaded them I shouldn't New them, so over to you .... | 14:49 |
| Riddell | super, let me look | 14:50 |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| rickspencer3 | all my meetings for today got cancelled ... I might get a lot done today :) | 15:03 |
| rickspencer3 | sebas: Riddell: next Wednesday at 1800UTC? Is that too late? | 15:13 |
| Riddell | fine with me | 15:14 |
| === milian__ is now known as milian | ||
| rickspencer3 | hey guyses: I'm going to install Kubuntu alpha 5 on my desktop this weekend ... | 16:09 |
| rickspencer3 | anything I should know? | 16:09 |
| rgreening | there are some release notes.... | 16:12 |
| rgreening | let me get the link.... | 16:12 |
| rgreening | rickspencer3: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha5/Kubuntu | 16:13 |
| rgreening | rickspencer3: have a look at the known issues near the bottom of the page... | 16:14 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks rgreening | 16:16 |
| rickspencer3 | I did see that | 16:16 |
| rgreening | other than that. nope. you should be good to go rickspencer3 | 16:17 |
| rickspencer3 | hehe | 16:17 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm looking forward to trying Quassel | 16:18 |
| rgreening | rickspencer3: KDE 4.2.1 will be uploaded in the next week. So, some KDE 4.2.0 issues that remain, may well get resolved. | 16:18 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah | 16:18 |
| rgreening | rickspencer3: when I first tried quallsel, I hated it. Not I really like it. | 16:19 |
| rickspencer3 | interesting | 16:19 |
| rickspencer3 | what happened? | 16:19 |
| rgreening | I was a konversation user.... quassel was just different. | 16:19 |
| rgreening | however, seele has helped make this really usable. | 16:20 |
| jussi01 | :D | 16:20 |
| Sime | Riddell: thanks for the wad of stickers. | 16:20 |
| rgreening | lots of changes requested by the quassel team and they made them for us. | 16:20 |
| * rgreening is still waiting for stickers. must be carrier pidgeon to get to Newfoundland :) | 16:20 | |
| Sime | rgreening: now, once you see how many stickers there are, you will understand why the pidgeons are taking so long. ;-) | 16:28 |
| rgreening | lol | 16:28 |
| cumulus007 | Hi, I'm having random system hangs | 16:31 |
| cumulus007 | on Kubuntu Jaunty Alpha 5 | 16:31 |
| rgreening | cumulus007: what video card? | 16:41 |
| cumulus007 | rgreening: nvidia geforce 9400 GT | 16:42 |
| rgreening | are you using the nvidia driver or the open source one? | 16:43 |
| cumulus007 | nvidia 180.29 | 16:43 |
| rgreening | ok | 16:43 |
| cumulus007 | nvidia one | 16:43 |
| rgreening | anything show up in .xsession-errors or /var/log/Xorg.0.log or dmesg? | 16:43 |
| cumulus007 | dmesg says nothing about it | 16:44 |
| rgreening | cumulus007: can you try the vesa driver and see if the problem goes away? Just want to see if it's the vid driver interaction with xserver 1.6 | 16:45 |
| cumulus007 | rgreening: will try that some time, I'm too lazy to do that now :P | 16:47 |
| rgreening | ok, next random freeze then would be a good time :) | 16:47 |
| cumulus007 | yep | 16:47 |
| cumulus007 | .xsession-errors is huge, but I can't find anything special | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | hola | 17:52 |
| smarter_ | heya apachelogger | 17:53 |
| Tonio_ | hi apachelogger | 17:53 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: hve you seen glatzor online those days ? | 17:54 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: kdelibs and kdebase-workspace got lzma'd | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: already? | 17:58 |
| JontheEchidna | well, they're going to be next upload | 17:58 |
| apachelogger | sweet | 17:58 |
| JontheEchidna | we save ~5 MB for kdebase | 17:58 |
| JontheEchidna | -workspace | 17:58 |
| JontheEchidna | unfortunately the huge wallpaper package barely got smaller at all | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | that is for all workspace packages, right? | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | hm | 17:59 |
| JontheEchidna | total saved for all workspace packages | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | stupid wallpapers | 17:59 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah :/ | 17:59 |
| JontheEchidna | the -bin file dropped from 4 MB to 2 MB though | 17:59 |
| apachelogger | neato | 17:59 |
| JontheEchidna | s/file/package/g | 18:00 |
| apachelogger | package eventually = file anyway ;-) | 18:00 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I suppose every package should be tested with lzma for further gain as you go along | 18:00 |
| apachelogger | could also give a nice save on amarok and possibly mysql | 18:01 |
| JontheEchidna | It is somewhat of a pain since you have to add a predepends on a specific version of dpkg to every binary package or else it fails to upload | 18:01 |
| * apachelogger thinks that is a design flaw within dpkg itself though | 18:01 | |
| JontheEchidna | so I wouldn't go and do it willy-nilly to everything | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | there should be a way to define stuff for all packages | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | like the section value | 18:02 |
| JontheEchidna | there should also be a way to only lzma certain packages, like the -dbg ones | 18:02 |
| JontheEchidna | which, btw, get ~40-45% smaller | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | wow | 18:02 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe 30-35 | 18:03 |
| * JontheEchidna double-checks | 18:03 | |
| JontheEchidna | https://edge.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+archive/ppa | 18:03 |
| JontheEchidna | From 56 MB to 30 MB | 18:04 |
| smarter_ | oh w00t | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you base the implementation on cdbs or manually set the value in rules? | 18:04 |
| JontheEchidna | 46% saved | 18:04 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: set the value in rules | 18:04 |
| apachelogger | hm | 18:05 |
| JontheEchidna | we should just be able to set it up in cdbs and then set a bool or something | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I would recommend doing that in kde4.mk based on a boolean | 18:05 |
| apachelogger | makes lzmaification a bit easier :) | 18:05 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: not recently | 18:06 |
| === smarter_ is now known as smarter | ||
| === rraphink is now known as raphink | ||
| quassel208 | Hi do you guys now how i can log cpu usage ? | 19:31 |
| quassel208 | I am having lately in 9.04 heavy loades, its like its freezes, I run on those moments most time java and Wesnoth a game | 19:32 |
| * Lure is happy that Aurélien will join Canonical | 19:47 | |
| === serzholino_ is now known as serzholino | ||
| Lure | Riddell: now you will not be alone on staff meetings ;-) ^^^ | 19:47 |
| * ScottK just wishes it was for something more likely to actually make Kubuntu better. | 19:51 | |
| * ScottK hopes he can help his peers learn how to work in an open source environment. | 19:52 | |
| Lure | ScottK: it will have to be for better: having another KDE voice on payroll can only help and Aurélien is great (based on his work on gwenview) | 19:52 |
| ScottK | Well from what I've seen so far, while the current Dx design has some nice aspects, I'm not convinced overall it is an improvment. | 19:54 |
| ScottK | I hope it evolves in a better direction before it comes here. | 19:54 |
| Lure | ScottK: I am with you on that one - I am glad that Kubuntu is behind currently and that this get polished first on Ubuntu/Gnome | 19:55 |
| JontheEchidna | +1 | 19:56 |
| Lure | I do not like the fact that seele's and your's feedback was not properly responded/addressed by Dx team | 19:56 |
| Lure | or at least not publicly | 19:56 |
| ScottK | So far the only feedback I've gotten is to have the correctness of the current approach explained to me again and again. | 19:57 |
| ScottK | I understand it. | 19:58 |
| === serzholino_ is now known as serzholino | ||
| a|wen- | JontheEchidna: about a new kile snapshop... i keep an constantly keep an updated one in my PPA; i'll grap an updated snapshot tomorrow, and look at getting it updated in the archives | 20:55 |
| rickspencer3 | Riddell: I'm using Quasel on my fresh Kubuntu Jaunty Alpha 5 install | 22:00 |
| Nightrose | how do you like it so far rickspencer3? | 22:01 |
| rickspencer3 | shiny | 22:01 |
| Nightrose | hehe | 22:02 |
| rickspencer3 | KDE has gotten a lot shinier since I tried it last | 22:02 |
| rickspencer3 | I plan to use this for my production computer all next week | 22:02 |
| rickspencer3 | I also have the UNR setting up on my eee right now | 22:03 |
| Nightrose | cool :) | 22:03 |
| rickspencer3 | Nightrose: you're runnng Jaunty, I presume? | 22:04 |
| Nightrose | nope still intrepid on my maschines - I only have two and need both for production right now | 22:04 |
| rickspencer3 | hehe | 22:04 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah, I actually put Jaunty on a partition | 22:04 |
| Nightrose | ah that works yea | 22:05 |
| rickspencer3 | if you have the stomach for it, because partitioners sometime fail :) | 22:06 |
| rgreening | rickspencer3: I run the dev release on my production systems all the time :) | 22:06 |
| rgreening | but im crazy | 22:06 |
| rickspencer3 | hehe | 22:06 |
| Nightrose | rgreening likes it risky ;-) | 22:06 |
| rickspencer3 | rgreening: you must see apport a lot | 22:06 |
| rgreening | lol. yup. but thats how I find and fix stuff | 22:06 |
| Nightrose | rgreening++ | 22:07 |
| rgreening | and since I need to develop just as much as I need to program, it makes sense for me to use the system as much as possible | 22:07 |
| Nightrose | oh it's time for cookies i think | 22:07 |
| rickspencer3 | yah | 22:07 |
| Nightrose | kubotu: order cookies for rgreening | 22:07 |
| * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to rgreening. | 22:07 | |
| rgreening | mmm.. choco-chip | 22:07 |
| * rgreening shares will everyone | 22:08 | |
| rickspencer3 | now I | 22:30 |
| rickspencer3 | 'm getting kontact set up | 22:30 |
| rickspencer3 | (I think) | 22:31 |
| yao_ziyuan | Latest QtCurve. Uploaded via an insecure connection from within China. Use at your own risk. | 22:34 |
| yao_ziyuan | http://filebin.ca/vuyjws/qtcurve-kde4_0.61.4-0_i386.deb | 22:34 |
| yao_ziyuan | http://filebin.ca/jzejmw/qtcurve-kde3_0.61.3-0_i386.deb | 22:34 |
| yao_ziyuan | http://filebin.ca/ybpvhh/qtcurve-gtk2_0.61.4-0_i386.deb | 22:34 |
| seele | yay i got stickers! | 23:26 |
| seele | ~twitter update painting the town blue | 23:26 |
| kubotu | status updated | 23:27 |
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