[00:00] <DaSkreech> Mooqball:  Have you tried Gnome Jaunty ?
[00:00] <zombine> drostie and ActionParsnip: Thanks guys. I'll try to find a deb... Not on Jaunty so that shouldn't be a bit deal
[00:02] <luis__> ei guys i have another problem
[00:02] <luis__> with what program I must open a zip?
[00:02] <luis__> i tried with ark, but it says the internal visor cant visualize the archive
[00:02] <luis__> rare
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> luis__: unzip or ark
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> !rar
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> !zip
[00:03] <luis__> thx :)
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> if its .rar once you install rar stuffs, ark will handle it
[00:04] <pisnaz> if ark can not open it either it may be corrupt or passworded..not sure how ark handles the last type
[00:04] <luis__> its zip
[00:04] <PSiL0> hmmm, my akondi is not operational.  Is this due to an already pre-existing mysql install along with its already running daemon?
[00:05] <luis__> but i dont understand
[00:05] <luis__> tell me the name of the program so i can download it in console :)
[00:05] <luis__> its .zip
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> ark
[00:05] <pisnaz> ark will open zip files
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> !info ark
[00:05] <pisnaz> but the error makes me think the file may be bad
[00:06] <luis__> nop
[00:06] <luis__> i tried to open the zip with ark
[00:06] <luis__> then i tried to extract a exe
[00:06] <luis__> and it says these:
[00:07] <luis__> el visor interno no puede previsualizar el archivo
[00:07] <luis__> someone knows spanish? lol
[00:07] <luis__> oh i know why now
[00:07] <luis__> because the exe is a excutable from windows
[00:07] <luis__> :(
[00:08] <luis__> DOS/windows
[00:08] <luis__> someone knows how to open it?
[00:08] <pisnaz> did you try to run the exe?
[00:08] <luis__> extract it
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> to extract exe you need cabextract
[00:08] <luis__> but it cant
[00:08] <luis__> BUT
[00:08] <maco> luis__: it says you cant preview the archive
[00:08] <maco> in spanish
[00:08] <luis__> YES!
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> luis_first you said its zip, then its exe....
[00:08] <luis__> i open it with zip...
[00:08] <pisnaz> you should be able to extract the exe from the zip though
[00:08] <maco> um, ive had success with unzipping a .exe before
[00:09] <luis__> but its DOS/Windows
[00:09] <maco> how do you think i got the pcf to decode the group secret to get on my school's "linux users could never possibly get on here" wireless?
[00:09] <DaSkreech> luis__: Do you have an .exe inside a .zip ?
[00:09] <luis__> yes!
[00:09] <pisnaz> zip file contains the exe, but when you try to extract the exe from the zip it gives you an error right?
[00:09] <luis__> yes!
[00:09] <luis__> exactly
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> luis__: to extract zip you need cabextract
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> luis__: extract the exe to you home directory, then cabextractt the exe
[00:10] <pisnaz> the zip file is corrupt is my say.  you can extract exe's just can not do much with them (unless you work at it)
[00:11] <maco> ActionParsnip: i think you have it inside out
[00:11] <draik_> What is the name of the app for nepomuk?
[00:11] <maco> nepomukservicestab has crashed and ... <-- that one?
[00:11] <maco> s/stab/stub/
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> maco: pretty simple stuff, just sharing the love
[00:12] <maco> (i've been working on java)
[00:12] <maco> ActionParsnip: the exe is inside the zip
[00:12] <draik_> whichever it is. It is causing my system to freeze
[00:12] <maco> ActionParsnip: so you're inside out
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> maco: then they can use some fuzzy logic ;)
[00:12] <pisnaz> sideout in? :P
[00:14] <pisnaz> no fuzzy logic...it leaves fuzz balls on my sweater
[00:14] <luis__> okay
[00:14] <luis__> i dont understand anything
[00:14] <luis__> i tried to download cabextract with konsole
[00:14] <luis__> i do it
[00:15] <luis__> and now i cant found the program, WTF??!!
[00:15] <pisnaz> because the exe/program is still in the zip
[00:15] <luis__> i am not talking about that
[00:16] <luis__> i downloaded cabextract
[00:16] <luis__> and now i cant found it :S
[00:16] <pisnaz> oh the cabextract prog?
[00:16] <luis__> (and says the download was sucessful)
[00:16] <luis__> yes
[00:16] <pisnaz> err may be fuzzy on my memory but that has no gui
[00:17] <luis__> ehhh???
[00:17] <pisnaz> try via terminal?
[00:17] <luis__> yes
[00:17] <luis__> do that
[00:17] <luis__> already*
[00:17] <samhain> hi
[00:18] <samhain> i have a problem
[00:18] <DaSkreech> samhain: This may be the right place to be
[00:18] <pisnaz> odd runs here in terminal
[00:18] <DaSkreech> we will tell you when you let us know what the problem is
[00:19] <DaSkreech> luis__: How did you install?
[00:19] <luis__> konsole
[00:19] <drostie> luis__: find the file in the terminal. Then type "unzip filename" to unzip it.
[00:19] <luis__> but what i am triying to do is to open a exe drostie
[00:20] <drostie> luis__: extract the .exe from the .zip file first. THEN worry about opening it.
[00:20] <luis__> already do that :)
[00:21] <drostie> Ok. Now, to open a .exe on an Ubuntu system, you will probably need wine. Is wine installed?
[00:21] <pisnaz> did it not fail when you tried with a "can not visualize file error"?
[00:21] <draik_> How do I enable Num Lock at startup? The option seems to have vanished with 8.10
[00:22] <pisnaz> err where did I see that the other day?
[00:22] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys in trying to format my logial volume on an LVM i get the following error
[00:22] <ForzaPalermo> http://pastebin.com/m5cd56a7b
[00:22] <ForzaPalermo> can someone help me?
[00:22] <DaSkreech> luis__: What is the file supposed to do ?
[00:22] <luis__> to open a program to test my connection
[00:22] <luis__> but it says: OS windows XP, and vista :S
[00:23] <luis__> its a program than will test my connection so i can see if i can play without problems MGO in my ps3
[00:23] <luis__> yah? :)
[00:23] <DaSkreech> luis__: A port scanner ?
[00:24] <DaSkreech> What is the name of the program ?
[00:24] <luis__> yep :)
[00:24] <luis__> but is specially designed for a videogame
[00:24] <luis__> what i mean
[00:24] <luis__> is than the test
[00:24] <Haza1> Evening gents. How can i tell my kubuntu desktop not to display the items in my taskbar on all desktops?
[00:24] <luis__> will throw a result
[00:24] <pisnaz> err not trying to teach iptables via chat :P
[00:24] <luis__> than will say me if i am able to play MGO or not in my ps3
[00:24] <DaSkreech> Haza1: Which version of KDE ?
[00:24] <luis__> yah?
[00:24] <luis__> u know?
[00:24] <DaSkreech> !iptables
[00:24] <Haza1> KDE 4.1.4
[00:24] <luis__> i will go to vista to open the exe
[00:25] <Haza1> @ DaSkreech
[00:25] <luis__> ubuntu is giving to much problems with exes :S
[00:25] <drostie> ForzaPalermo: why aren't your lvm devices under /dev/mapper ?
[00:25] <DaSkreech> luis__: You can run it in wine then
[00:25] <DaSkreech> !wine | luis__
[00:25] <ForzaPalermo> drostie: i didnt know they had to be
[00:25] <DaSkreech> Haza1: That abilty was added in KDE 4.2
[00:25] <draik_> DaSkreech: The freezing issues was caused by nepomuk. I am now having issues with maintaining a connection to my network. It keeps on failing.
[00:25] <luis__> oh
[00:25] <luis__> ok
[00:26] <DaSkreech> draik_: Do you know on which level?
[00:26] <drostie> ForzaPalermo: I'm not sure they *have* to be, but they should be by default. What does [ls /dev/mapper] say?
[00:26] <DaSkreech> hardware? driver? network? protocol ?
[00:26] <ForzaPalermo> drostie: your a genius
[00:26] <ForzaPalermo> that idd it
[00:26] <draik_> DaSkreech: Nope. I just don't have an IP anymore. Manual setup does nothing.
[00:26] <ForzaPalermo> its formatting
[00:26] <ForzaPalermo> but why does the volume appear in dev/
[00:26] <DaSkreech> draik_: how do you get your IP? Manually or DHCP ?
[00:26] <ForzaPalermo> i have /dev/STOARAGE
[00:26] <draik_> DaSkreech: DHCP
[00:26] <ForzaPalermo> then /dev/mapper/STORAGE-STORAGE
[00:26] <Haza1> DaSkreech: hmm, maybe i asked my question wrong. (Ive done this before on my old desktop KDE 3.5.10)
[00:26] <DaSkreech> draik_: sudo dhclient
[00:27] <DaSkreech> Haza1: Yes I know but it wasn't in KDE 4.1
[00:27] <DaSkreech> Haza1: Is that really important to you?
[00:28] <drostie> Forza: You might have to [ls -al /dev/STORAGE*] for me to answer that question, but if I had to guess, the mkfs command might have created blank files there when it saw that the destination file didn't exist.
[00:28] <Haza1> well i usually have alot of windows open on my machine so have 4+ desktops worth of open eindows in one desktop worths taskbar is pretty squashed :)
[00:28] <draik_> DaSkreech: Ok. It's listing off eth0 and pan0 (never seen/heard of pan0)
[00:28] <Haza1> *windows
[00:28] <kenny__> How do I install bugzilla under ubuntu(8.10)? I have installed bugzilla3 with all dependencies (including mysql and apache2), hope I set the right db_user and db_pass in localconfig, but there is no http://localhost/bugzilla site.
[00:28] <kenny__>  How do I tell the apache server to display the bugzilla pages under http://localhost/bugzilla?
[00:28] <pisnaz> pan 0 ?
[00:29] <drostie> draik_: pan0 is an interface often used for cooking delicious bacon. See also the HTTP 418 error code, "I'm a teapot".
[00:29] <pisnaz> rofl!!
[00:29] <draik_> DaSkreech: No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[00:29] <ForzaPalermo> drostie: drwx------  2 root root   60 2009-02-27 00:14 .
[00:29] <ForzaPalermo> drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4200 2009-02-27 00:14 ..
[00:29] <ForzaPalermo> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   27 2009-02-27 00:14 STORAGE -> /dev/mapper/STORAGE-STORAGE
[00:29] <DaSkreech> Haza1: If you would like to you can update to KDE 4.2
[00:29] <ForzaPalermo> thats theoutput
[00:29] <ForzaPalermo> sorry for not using psate bin for that
[00:30]  * pisnaz goes looking for my pan0....getting hungry
[00:30] <DaSkreech> draik_: Hmm Ok Is the computer plugged into the network?
[00:30] <draik_> Yup
[00:30] <Haza1> DaSkreech: I can do that but can you quickly tell me (so i understand better in the future) why i can do this with KDE 3.x.x but not 4.1.x ?
[00:30] <draik_> DaSkreech: It works when I first boot, but then goes away after a minute or two.
[00:30] <draik_> I was in the middle of an upgrade
[00:30] <DaSkreech> Haza1: There was no code retained from KDE 3 to KDE 4
[00:30] <pisnaz> can you manually assign your ip? and ping the nwk?
[00:30] <DaSkreech>  Or rather very little
[00:31] <draik_> pisnaz: Nope. I tried. Nothing.
[00:31] <Haza1> ahh i see. Okay thats fine.
[00:31] <DaSkreech> Haza1: It was all ported and rewritten
[00:31] <drostie> ForzaPalermo: that basically tells you that /dev/STORAGE is a symbolic link to the correct device. Did you ever type in some sort of [ln -s] command? Because I wasn't aware that the LVM created those.
[00:31] <Haza1> DaSkreech: One last quesation. updating from KDE4.1.x to 4.2.x... its not a big deal right?
[00:31] <DaSkreech> Haza1:  for the Desktop KDE 3 code was thrown away as unmaintainable and everything was written from scratch
[00:31] <ForzaPalermo> drostie: no
[00:31] <ForzaPalermo> drostie: so i can just remove that folder?
[00:31] <draik_> Haza1: Nope. I did it and I'm using it on this laptop.l
[00:31] <DaSkreech> Haza1: Not that big a deal. You go to adept and enable unsupported updates and then update
[00:32] <Haza1> DaSkreech, draik_: Perfect! Thank you :)
[00:32] <draik_> Haza1: You're going to like 4.2
[00:32] <drostie> ForzaPalermo: well, it's not a folder, but yes. [sudo rm /dev/STORAGE] should remove the symbolic link.
[00:32] <Haza1> draik_: Oh? :)
[00:32] <DaSkreech> Haza1: The desktop gains a lot of functionality each .x release since they are adding in lots of new (and old) features
[00:32] <ForzaPalermo> yep done
[00:32] <draik_> It looks so purdy
[00:32] <ForzaPalermo> i have a quesation
[00:32]  * Haza1 is getting excited already!
[00:33] <ForzaPalermo> if i ever wipe my HD with the OS not on the LVM
[00:33] <DaSkreech> Haza1: 4.2 is quite nice :)
[00:33] <Haza1> i loves the new version as it is!! :D
[00:33] <kenny__> How do I install bugzilla under ubuntu(8.10)? I have installed bugzilla3 with all dependencies (including mysql and apache2), hope I set the right db_user and db_pass in localconfig, but there is no http://localhost/bugzilla site.
[00:33] <kenny__>  How do I tell the apache server to display the bugzilla pages under http://localhost/bugzilla?
[00:33] <ForzaPalermo> and i put a fresh ubuntu on it
[00:33] <ForzaPalermo> will it recognize the LVM
[00:33] <ForzaPalermo> ?
[00:33] <pisnaz> dralk_]sounds like a cable or server/router issue
[00:33] <Mooqball> im on a fresh install on today's build of jaunty it seems pretty stable
[00:33]  * Haza1 is not going to waste any time and gets on it staright away
[00:33] <Haza1> *straight
[00:33] <pisnaz> ok brb need a normal kb hooked in this mini is brutal for chat lol
[00:33] <DaSkreech> kenny__: point it to the ugzilla install as it's RootDoc
[00:33] <DaSkreech> !apache
[00:34] <drostie> ForzaPalermo: if you install lvm2 on the new ubuntu install, then yes, it should recognize the existing lvm.
[00:34] <ForzaPalermo> awsome thank you sir!
[00:34] <DaSkreech> Haza1: We should be here if you have any troubles
[00:34] <Haza1> DaSkreech: Thank you. Its appreciated :) Not aleays the easiest to get a *nix OS working... especially on a laptop ;)
[00:35] <drostie> I feel like my obligatory warning about upgrading to KDE 4.2 from Ubuntu 8.10 needs to be reiterated here.
[00:35] <DaSkreech> Haza1: :-)
[00:36] <ForzaPalermo> drostie: also i have to mount the lvm still like a regular hdd right?
[00:36] <DaSkreech> drostie: pleasedo
[00:36] <kenny__> DaSkreech: Bugzilla contains this web directory: /usr/share/bugzilla3/web/index.html How do I set it in apache2's httpd.conf as RootDir?
[00:36] <DaSkreech> kenny__: can you browse there and see the bugzilla?
[00:36] <drostie> Warning: an upgrade of 8.10 to KDE 4.2 may or may not require lots of work to setup and/or break your current setup. Just saying.
[00:36] <draik_> DaSkreech: What do you speculate on this issue? Why would the IP suddenly be dropped?
[00:37] <DaSkreech> draik_: No idea what happened -> no speculation
[00:37] <draik_> :(
[00:37] <DaSkreech> Network stuff really needs to not be troubleshot in the dark
[00:37] <kenny__> DaSkreech: Browsing there blinks up some text, then says /cgi-bin/bugzilla3/index.cgi not found.
[00:37] <pisnaz> drostle: really?  no issues here on my systems, personally it seems to of fixed some quirks I had.
[00:38] <kenny__> DaSkreech: Trying to symlink bugzillas web directory into htdocs...
[00:38] <drostie> ForzaPalermo: you don't need to mount the lvm as a whole, but you may well need to mount the individual volumes. This may happen automatically on bootup if you tweak /etc/fstab.
[00:39] <kenny__> DaSkreech: symlink didn't help either
[00:40] <DaSkreech> kenny__: http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/debian-4-0-etch-en/install-bugzilla-3-on-debian-4-0-etch
[00:40] <drostie> pisnaz: I have met some people who could not log in. When I personally tried to upgrade via the experimental ppa, I could log in, but lots of useful stuff was broken. Like wireless. And keyboard input. ^_^;; Since debian is crap at downgrading packages, I had to reinstall fresh from the Jaunty alpha.
[00:40] <DaSkreech> Simialr process
[00:40] <DaSkreech> Similar
[00:40] <pisnaz> dralk I had my network suddenly stop working no ip etc but I could use ifconfig and set my ip and get on so it seems odd yours is totally dead, unless it is external to the system affected (and mine just magically started working after I had messesd around without any action being the main source)
[00:40] <ForzaPalermo> how do i get it to show as a drive or volume in places in kde 4.2?
[00:40] <ForzaPalermo> i mounted it
[00:40] <Walzmyn> Anybody else have flash break on them?
[00:40] <ForzaPalermo> do i need to reboot?
[00:40] <pisnaz> drostle: You reminded me I lied, I had a huge error broken permissions and such once.
[00:41] <Walzmyn> ForzaPalermo, look on your task bar, just to the left of the time
[00:41] <ForzaPalermo> yea
[00:41] <drostie> ForzaPalermo: Right click in the "Places" panel and click "Add Entry..." ...?
[00:41] <ForzaPalermo> its not a last plugged in device
[00:42] <drostie> Walzmyn: I don't think LVM drives are automatically noticed by udev.
[00:42] <Walzmyn> ForzaPalermo, sorry, missunderstood the question
[00:42] <ForzaPalermo> i dont see it drostie
[00:43] <ForzaPalermo> im in places but nothing about add entry pops up
[00:43] <ForzaPalermo> oh i got it
[00:43] <ForzaPalermo> sorry
[00:43] <pisnaz> dagnabit looks like I have to replace a keyboard connector fuse...ugghh
[00:43] <drostie> ForzaPalermo: yeah, Dolphin is annoying like that. ^_^;;
[00:44] <ForzaPalermo> lol
[00:44] <ForzaPalermo> ok i got it
[00:44] <ForzaPalermo> thanks
[00:44] <ForzaPalermo> good night guys!
[00:44] <ibuffy> again! argh!
[00:44] <ibuffy> Nepomuk::ResourceManager::instance()->init();
[00:44] <pisnaz> night Forza
[00:44] <ibuffy> whoops
[00:44] <drostie> pisnaz: "when the gas runs out, just wreck it -- you insured the thing." ^_^
[00:44] <ibuffy>   kde-devel: Depends: kdebase-dev (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[00:44] <ibuffy> E: Broken packages
[00:44] <ibuffy> heath@soyo1:~/webdev/ope
[00:45] <Walzmyn> Flash was working, I got an update for it this morning and now it's not working - anybody else having issues?
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Walzmyn: Same site?
[00:46] <pisnaz> drostle: rofl nah this system is working now but the ps/2 port for keyboards seems to be dead pointing tme to the fuse on the mobo, easy job just have to tear system down...and yes I have spares rofl.  Since the system was free and works good it is a small price to pay for a htpc
[00:46] <drostie> ibuffy: what repository are these packages in?
[00:46]  * DaSkreech puts up a notice
[00:46] <Walzmyn> DaSkreech, yeah, youtube
[00:46] <ibuffy> one sec i may have fixed it
[00:46] <ibuffy> same 'ol dpkg -i --force-overwrite
[00:46] <DaSkreech> I'm herebut if anyone wants me then ping me or say my name
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Walzmyn: Firefox ?
[00:46] <ibuffy> nope
[00:47] <ibuffy> nm
[00:47] <Walzmyn> DaSkreech, F and Konq
[00:47] <DaSkreech> Oh Hmm I dunno
[00:47] <ibuffy> drostie:
[00:47] <ibuffy> kdebase-dev_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_i386.deb
[00:47] <ibuffy> kdebase-dev_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_i386.deb
[00:47] <DaSkreech> I was on yutube about 4 hours ago
[00:47] <DaSkreech> Worked then
[00:47]  * Walzmyn frowns
[00:48] <khalidmian> hi missing ktorrent icon when i go into menu editor and choose icon it never keeps it any clue why?
[00:49] <ibuffy> argh.... i have packages that keep removing other packages
[00:49] <ibuffy> ack
[00:49] <ibuffy> they all need to be on the same page
[00:49] <ibuffy> this is annoying
[00:49] <pisnaz> could use pat-get :P
[00:49] <ibuffy> i should never had used that crazy psycocats 'pure kde' stuff
[00:49] <pisnaz> apt*
[00:49] <ibuffy> pisnaz: right, yeah.. i've used that... sign
[00:49] <ibuffy> drostie: any advice?
[00:50] <draik_> DaSkreech: I guess I'll just reinstall Kubuntu and go from there.
[00:50] <drostie> ibuffy: my advice is that this guy shares your pain? (http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/tech/wxinmfpl/debian.html)
[00:50] <DaSkreech> draik_: You can hunt down errors
[00:50] <DaSkreech> draik_: you say that even a static Ip address doesn't work ?
[00:50] <khalidmian> icon help pls
[00:50] <draik_> System froze.
[00:50] <DaSkreech> draik_: uuuuggh
[00:51] <DaSkreech> draik_: /home partition ?
[00:51] <draik_> It's all on one drive
[00:51] <draik_> Nothing important
[00:51] <draik_> Not anymore anyways.
[00:51] <DaSkreech> draik_: Right backup
[00:52] <drostie> ibuffy: the bottom of that page suggests that, if you include a particular option, you can convince apt-get to tell dpkg to --force-overwrite, which may fix your problem.
[00:52] <draik_> :( now the reinstall is frozen. I have chosen the keyboard and now it is not responding to the hard drive options for installation. :(
[00:52] <pisnaz> ibuffy:I totally missed what was wrong, and I was semi serious about apt-get I use it a bit
[00:52] <fernando> hola
[00:52] <fernando> alguien que me pueda ayudar
[00:52] <draik_> DaSkreech: Make a backup of what? Nothing is there.
[00:52] <draik_> !es | Guest7028
[00:53] <DaSkreech> draik_: Never mind :)
[00:53] <drostie> (I'm assuming that all of these packages are in the experimental PPA and that the experimental PPA is self-consistent, either of which may be false and hence invalidate that advice.)
[00:53] <ibuffy> http://dpaste.com/2161/
[00:53] <ibuffy> yeah.. didn't work
[00:53] <ibuffy> geez i left rh9 back in the day to get rid of dep hell
[00:53] <ibuffy> argh
[00:54] <Haza1> DaSkreech: I may be as think as a whale omelette but... i check the unsupported packages tickbox, fetched headers and updated (about 121 mbs)
[00:54] <Haza1> Do i need a restart to see changes in KDE from 4.1.x to 4.2.x ?
[00:55] <DaSkreech> Haza1: Logout  on the login screen press alt+E then login
[00:55] <pisnaz> ibuffy: err ..sudo apt-get -f install
[00:55] <pisnaz> ibuffy: and try a sudo apt-get check
[00:55] <DaSkreech> Haza1: wait
[00:55] <ibuffy> is there a way to get all programs to be on the same page
[00:55] <DaSkreech> Do you know how to get here if X breaks ?
[00:56] <pisnaz> via adept?
[00:56] <ibuffy> maybe make sure most of them are from one certain repo?
[00:56] <ibuffy> sure
[00:56] <ibuffy> apt-
[00:56] <ibuffy> aptitude
[00:56] <ibuffy> sources.list
[00:56] <ibuffy> whatevv
[00:56] <drostie> ibuffy: what if you just try to do all at once? [sudo apt-get -f install kde-devel kde-core kdesdk kdelibs5-dev libkonq5-dev kdebase-workspace-dev  kdepimlibs5-dev libphonon-dev libqimageblitz-dev libxkbfile-dev -o DPkg::options::="--force-all"] or so?
[00:56] <ibuffy> drostie: i'll try it
[00:56] <Haza1> DaSkreech: "Trying to migrate resource" <--- sound good?
[00:56] <pisnaz> as drostie said that should work
[00:56] <ibuffy> nope
[00:56] <DaSkreech> Haza1: Yay! KDE 4.2 :)
[00:57] <Haza1> DaSkreech: :D
[00:57] <Haza1> DaSkreech: Thank you :D
[00:57] <ibuffy> drostie: http://dpaste.com/2163/
[00:57] <Haza1> ooooooh. it looks pretty
[00:57] <DaSkreech> Right click the task bar and see if hte options you seek are there
[00:58] <drostie> ibuffy: blargh.
[00:58] <Haza1> DaSkreech: There are indeed more options
[00:58] <Haza1> DaSkreech: Just looking through them now
[00:58] <pisnaz> ibuffy: you trying to isntall kdedev or just kde 4,2??
[00:58] <DaSkreech> Haza1: The permanent song of KDE :)
[00:58] <DaSkreech> Haza1: The important part is does it have the options yo uant ?
[00:59] <jin_122> i get this error when i try to do the update. =  e-jat: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb: unable to make backup link of `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic' before installing new version
[00:59] <drostie> ibuffy: Are the packages that "are not going to be installed" already installed (in different versions) on your system
[00:59] <jin_122> how do i fix it?
[00:59] <drostie> ?
[00:59] <ibuffy> pisnaz: kde-devel
[00:59] <ibuffy> i need kdevelop
[00:59] <ibuffy> drostie: yes
[00:59] <khalidmian> paleeeezeee help with icon proble i am having
[00:59] <ibuffy> i need to work on a proposal for gsoc but can't without me kdevelop
[00:59] <pisnaz> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop will get KDE en mass may be similar for kdevelop
[00:59] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: what is it?
[01:00] <drostie> ibuffy: can you apt-get remove them and then apt-get install kde-devel normally?
[01:00] <pisnaz> give me a sec
[01:00] <ibuffy> and it was installed previously but i think it was automatically removed the other day o.O
[01:00] <ibuffy> drostie: apt-get remove what?
[01:00] <drostie> ibuffy: the old copies of these packages.
[01:00] <ibuffy> drostie: i wouldn't know how
[01:01] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: program shows ? as an icon when i go into menu editor and choose icon and save it it doesnt save icon or my choice and leaves it as ? how do i resolve that
[01:01] <Haza1> DaSkreech: Back, i went to get a cup of tea
[01:01] <Haza1> DaSkreech: I'll see if i can find the options i need
[01:01] <luis__> !wine
[01:02] <Haza1> DaSkreech: Yay! it does.
[01:02] <drostie> ibuffy: [sudo apt-get remove kde-core kdesdk kdelibs5-dev libkonq5-dev] etc, then [sudo apt-get install kde-devel] to reinstall them all automatically.
[01:02] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: Which menu ?
[01:03] <khalidmian> menu editor
[01:03] <ibuffy> drostie: http://dpaste.com/2164/
[01:03] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: which one doesn't have an icon ?
[01:04] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: isnt that where i can edit menu for icons?
[01:04] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: Yes I just went in and found one with ? and changed it from Lancelot
[01:04] <DaSkreech> Worked here
[01:04] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: ktorrent shows ? instead of ktorrent icon
[01:04] <Guest36123> good morning
[01:04] <DaSkreech> trying to figure out what's different with you
[01:04] <pisnaz> ibuffy: you try sudo apt-get kde-devel-extras?  That will require kde-core and kde-devel should pull everything
[01:05] <Guest36123> hi evbody
[01:05] <pisnaz> heya guest
[01:05] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: and you click save before you quit?
[01:05] <DaSkreech> !hi | Guest36123
[01:05] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: yes 2-3 times all times no avail
[01:05] <ibuffy> pisnaz: install or remove?
[01:05] <pisnaz> install
[01:05] <Haza1> DaSkreech: wow. you were not lying about kde 4.2.x
[01:05] <Guest36123> i have eror message with firefox
[01:05] <Guest36123> can u help me?
[01:05] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: remove the menu and add it back
[01:05] <drostie> ibuffy: you've officially baffled me. ^_^ I thought you said you already had old versions of some of these packages. Which ones do you have old versions of, if aptitude doesn't know about them
[01:06] <DaSkreech> Guest36123: Maybe What is the error message?
[01:06] <ibuffy> pisnaz: http://dpaste.com/2165/
[01:06] <Guest36123> actually it's about DansGuardian
[01:06] <ibuffy> drostie: i don't know what i have
[01:07] <Guest36123> can i uninstall DansGuardian
[01:07] <Guest36123> what the effect with firefox?
[01:07] <pisnaz> ibuffy: you run a sudo apt-get check?
[01:07] <DaSkreech> Guest36123: What is dansguardian ?
[01:07] <ibuffy> http://dpaste.com/2167/
[01:07] <drostie> ibuffy: [sudo apt-get remove libkonq5-dev kdepimlibs5-dev libphonon-dev libqimageblitz-dev libxkbfile-dev] ...?
[01:08] <ibuffy> pisnaz: yes
[01:08] <ibuffy> drostie: :)
[01:08] <ibuffy> already tried that
[01:08] <ibuffy> didn't work
[01:08] <ibuffy> same error as before
[01:08] <ibuffy> exact same
[01:08] <drostie> None of those packages are installed either? o_O
[01:08] <tellmehowplease> can anyone tell me how to get a logitech mic to work in audacity
[01:08] <Guest36123> it's something like firewall or else but i don't know yet
[01:09] <ibuffy> drostie: http://dpaste.com/2170/
[01:09] <Guest36123> hi... anybdy know how to uninstall dansguardian?
[01:09] <drostie> egads. --_--;;
[01:09] <pisnaz> errm..
[01:10] <adam> hi... anybdy know how to uninstall dansguardian?
[01:10] <DaSkreech> adam: How did you install it?
[01:10] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: damn lol i forgot the command now! tehsucks
[01:10]  * DaSkreech ponders. Which command?
[01:10] <Bsims> I am wanting a simple amarok based web dj software
[01:11] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: example akregator %i -caption "%c"
[01:11] <pisnaz> Guest36123: sudo apt-get remove dansguardian via the terminal
[01:12] <pisnaz> ibuffy: sudo apt-get -f install had no effect?
[01:12] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: i forgot the command i should put when i creat icon
[01:12] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: the icon doesnt work without command
[01:12] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: ah so it works noe?
[01:13] <jin_122> is it possible that i didn't install ubuntu correctly but still be able to use it?
[01:14] <pisnaz> drostie: should we just say burn it? lol
[01:14] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: actually it doesnt if i put put a command
[01:14] <drostie> ibuffy: I think there's an inconsistency in the package system itself. When I [aptitude show libphonon-dev], it suggests that the current version replaces kdelibs5-dev. When I [aptitude show kdepimlibs5-dev], it suggests that this depends on kdelibs5-dev.
[01:15] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: actually it doesnt if i dont put a command i mean
[01:15] <DaSkreech> jin_122: Yes. It's pretty hard to break Linux so a number of thigns could have gone wrong and it will still work to some extent
[01:16] <pisnaz> drostie: that could explain, I had a similar error but I used -d so
[01:16] <drostie> Since your package depends on both libphonon-dev and kdepimlibs5-dev, it doesn't know what to do. And if I had to guess, the libphonon-dev "replaces" field is wrong, and should be a "depends" field. (Not sure, but seems decently plausible.)
[01:16] <jin_122> :/ thanks DaSkreech. I just installed Ubuntu and I get some errors that I couldn't solve via google
[01:17] <khalidmian> i give up ill just have to reinstall kubuntu
[01:17] <ibuffy> drostie: know where i could check that?
[01:17] <ibuffy> it's driving me mad
[01:17] <ign0ramus> Hey all.
[01:17] <DaSkreech> jin_122: This wuld be the place to try solve them
[01:18] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: To get an icon ?
[01:18] <ign0ramus> I'm compiling the latest gstreamer plugins on Hardy, but autogen keeps telling me that xvimagesink will not be built (dependencies).  Anyone have any idea what I need? I've searched the forums, but no luck :(
[01:18] <khalidmian> yes
[01:18] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: i give up because everything is so complicated
[01:18] <khalidmian> i mean
[01:18] <jin_122> DaSkreech: how do i fix this ?? >> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb: unable to make backup link of `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic' before installing new version
[01:18] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: Take a screenshot of the menu editor and pastebin it for me
[01:19] <khalidmian> pastebin?
[01:19] <khalidmian> how do i pastebin?
[01:19] <jin_122> google
[01:19] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: open ksnapshot and take a screen of the application then drag the picture from off ksnapshot into the pastebin widget
[01:19] <DaSkreech> jin_122: How much space tdo you have on the hard drive?
[01:20] <jin_122> plenty of space for that update package
[01:21] <DaSkreech> jin_122: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.27
[01:21] <drostie> ibuffy: I'm not sure how you would check that. When I [apt-get --simulate install kde-devel], no problems are reported.
[01:21] <jin_122> DaSkreech: i got this E: Couldn't find package linux-image02.6.27
[01:22] <drostie> And I can't try the install for myself, because I'm on a 8 KBps internet line.
[01:22] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: http://imagebin.ca/view/Sjsr46O.html i think
[01:22] <pisnaz> ibuffy: let me try it
[01:22] <drostie> maybe you could try installing all of those dependencies except libphonon-dev?
[01:22] <ibuffy> drostie: not for me: http://dpaste.com/2179/
[01:23] <DaSkreech> jin_122: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[01:24] <pisnaz> ibuffy: Yeah seems I get similar errors here also
[01:24] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: http://imagebin.ca/view/NqyZol-X.html
[01:24] <jin_122> DaSkreech: I got this , linux-image-generic is already the newest version.
[01:24] <jin_122> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[01:24] <khalidmian> its gwenview
[01:24] <drostie> ibuffy, pisnaz: Are you guys on 8.10 with the experimental ppa, or on jaunty?
[01:24] <draik_> What would cause the LiveCD to not see my hard drive?
[01:24] <DaSkreech> jin_122: which not upgraded?
[01:25] <khalidmian> jin_122: gwenview needs updating
[01:25] <DaSkreech> draik_: not plugged in?
[01:25] <draik_> Take that back. I can mount it, but I can't install to it
[01:25] <DaSkreech> draik_: How are you trying to install to it?
[01:25] <draik_> The install seems to be unable of finding my HDD
[01:25] <draik_> LiveCD
[01:25] <khalidmian> jin_122: use adept search for gwenview it wil tell you gwenview is upgradable
[01:26] <pisnaz> drostie: I am yes
[01:26] <jin_122> this is not upgraded maybe? linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb ??
[01:26] <ibuffy> drostie: intrepid
[01:26] <drostie> pisnaz: I gave you two options. Neither one was "yes." :P
[01:26] <jin_122> where can i access the adept search
[01:26] <ibuffy> drostie: 8.10
[01:27] <pisnaz> drostie: lol sorry long day 8.10
[01:27] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: did you take a look at image?
[01:27] <ibuffy> pisnaz: lsb_release -a
[01:27] <ibuffy> for future ref
[01:27] <DaSkreech> jin_122: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[01:27] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: That's quite bare why is there no command?
[01:27] <ibuffy> man i have no patience tonight
[01:27] <drostie> ok. so the --simulate works in jaunty, the --simulate and install are both broken on the experimental PPA?
[01:28] <ibuffy> srsly i am so close from wiping this filesystem clean and starting over
[01:28] <pisnaz> ibuffy : :P
[01:28]  * drostie scratches his head.
[01:28] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: i forgot what the command is i accidently deleted the actual icon
[01:28] <DaSkreech> ktorrent %i -caption "%c" %u
[01:28] <jin_122> DaSkreech: this showed up after I input command E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:28] <jin_122> e-jat: Unable to lock the download directory
[01:29] <DaSkreech> jin_122: Do you have adept open?
[01:29] <jin_122> i don't know what it is. so i assume no
[01:29] <draik_> DaSkreech: BTW, LiveCD was also killing off the IP address. What would cause that to happen?
[01:29] <DaSkreech> draik_: sounds like anetwork issue
[01:29] <drostie> ibuffy: can you at least stop getting this error mesage by [sudo apt-get remove kde-devel kdebase-dev] ?
[01:29] <draik_> :(
[01:30] <pisnaz> drostie: is there not a way to use apt-cache to check for more info?
[01:30] <ibuffy> drostie: holy jizz.
[01:30] <ibuffy> it's removing
[01:30] <drostie> :-D something, at any rate.
[01:30] <ibuffy> now what to do..
[01:30] <draik_> I can't re-install Ibex onto my HDD.
[01:30] <draik_> :(
[01:30] <ibuffy> i'll try installing kde-devel
[01:31] <DaSkreech> brb
[01:31] <drostie> okay, but don't force it.
[01:31] <ibuffy> i didn't
[01:31] <ibuffy> and it didn't install
[01:31] <draik_> It gets stuck on step 3 of 6
[01:31] <drostie> pastebin?
[01:32] <pisnaz> cool it removed.
[01:32] <drostie> ibuffy: and, I'd try [sudo apt-get install kde-core] to see whether one of those dependencies from before works, too.
[01:33] <ibuffy> drostie: http://dpaste.com/2188/
[01:33] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: OK  finally i have an icon how to i move it up or down?
[01:33] <felixhummel> hi! pressing alt+tab and holding it shows a border around the next selected window. is it possible to change this border's color?
[01:33] <Guest20930> oh god... i've been unistall dans guardian but i now can't open the web anymore.
[01:33] <ibuffy> drostie: it's installing kde-core
[01:33] <Guest20930> "Proxy Server Refused Connection" just after i uninstall dansguardian
[01:34] <Guest20930> help me please
[01:34] <Guest20930> what shoud i do?
[01:34] <ibuffy> http://dpaste.com/2190/
[01:34] <ibuffy> really why do we even still have juk? :P
[01:35] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: Hooray!
[01:35] <drostie> ibuffy: yay, progress!
[01:35] <Guest20930> "Proxy Server Refused Connection" just after i uninstall dansguardian
[01:35] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: what did you get to get the icon ?
[01:35] <ibuffy> i loved it back in the day, but wow, amarok is leagues ahead of it.. we could use the juk devs on amarok
[01:35] <Guest20930> "Proxy Server Refused Connection" just after i uninstall dansguardian what should i do... help me please
[01:35] <DaSkreech> !adeptfix
[01:35] <ibuffy> tons to be done
[01:35] <ibuffy> anywho
[01:35] <ibuffy> yes, progress
[01:35] <ibuffy> woo
[01:35] <DaSkreech> jin_122: ^^^^
[01:35] <DaSkreech>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:36] <drostie> ibuffy: try to also manually install kdesdk, kdelibs5-dev, libkonq5-dev, kdebase-workspace-dev, kdepimlibs5-dev, libqimageblitz-dev, and libxkbfile-dev.
[01:36] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: http://imagebin.ca/view/XjtBIw5d.html see this i have another question
[01:36] <Guest20930> "Proxy Server Refused Connection" just after i uninstall dansguardian what should i do... help me please
[01:36] <drostie> That's all of the dependencies except for libphonon-dev.
[01:37] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: i actually had to remove the icon with a ? and redo the icon as you said
[01:37] <ibuffy> http://dpaste.com/2194/
[01:37] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: for future there is a drop down on the ksnapshot you can take a picture of just the app
[01:37] <pisnaz> Guest20930: I am assuming you have your proxy info.  Go to system settings Network settings and setup your proxy there
[01:37] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: Ok you want to move where it is in the menu ?
[01:38] <ibuffy> drostie: http://dpaste.com/2196/
[01:38] <yao_ziyuan> is there somewhere like nopaste and tinypic but can let me upload small binary files?
[01:38] <ibuffy> were you referring to me installing via ./configure make and make install?
[01:38] <ibuffy> yao_ziyuan: filebin.ca
[01:39] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: OOOOOOOOPS didnt know anyways see how ktorent icon is on the very top? how do i move it underneath kopete for example
[01:39] <yao_ziyuan> many thanks
[01:39] <drostie> ibuffy: no, just apt-get.
[01:39] <Guest20930> "Proxy Server Refused Connection" just after i uninstall dansguardian what should i do... help me please
[01:39] <ibuffy> okay, didn't work then :P
[01:39] <ibuffy> (paste above as i'm sure you saw)
[01:40] <draik_> Why does nepomukservicestub take 99-100% of CPU?
[01:40] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: nothing big. Just makes it easier to show what you are talking about
[01:40] <drostie> ibuffy: let's try to trace this out. If you [sudo apt-get install libical-dev], what happens?
[01:40] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: Menu editor and just drag and drop
[01:40] <yao_ziyuan> QtCurve 0.61.2 for KDE3: http://filebin.ca/mtyntc/qtcurve-kde3_0.61.2-0_i386.deb
[01:40] <Guest20930> "Proxy Server Refused Connection" just after i uninstall dansguardian what should i do... help me please
[01:40] <drostie> Does it say that libical0 is not going to be installed?
[01:42] <ibuffy> drostie: http://dpaste.com/2198/
[01:42] <drostie> Good lord, it's 2:40 am in my time zone. I am definitely not going to wake up in time for tomorrow morning's classes ^_^;;
[01:42] <ibuffy> drostie: sorry for the mess above
[01:43] <drostie> :-D no, it's fine. I think we just found the problem.
[01:44] <ibuffy> really!
[01:44] <ibuffy> w00000
[01:44] <ibuffy> that would be excellent news
[01:44] <Guest20930> "Proxy Server Refused Connection" just after i uninstall dansguardian what should i do... help me please
[01:44] <drostie> type [aptitude show libical-dev] -- does it say "Depends: libical0 (= 0.33-1)" ...?
[01:45] <Guest20930> yes
[01:46] <drostie> Guest20930: um, that's fascinating, but I was asking ibuffy, since that's the setup that I need to fix. :-P
[01:46] <ibuffy> yay!
[01:46] <ibuffy> it does
[01:46] <ibuffy> Depends: libical0 (= 0.33-1)
[01:47] <pisnaz> Guest20930: You behind a proxy and if so do you have the info for it?
[01:47] <drostie> ibuffy: okay. That's the difference (or, at least, *a* difference) between the jaunty and the experimental ppa.
[01:47] <ibuffy> if we have solved this, i would actually get out of my chair for a few seconds for a celebratory dance... and then almost collapse of a heart attack, but that wouldn't stop me from immediately reaching to the side of the screen for another bite of my big mac
[01:47] <pisnaz> lol
[01:48] <ibuffy> s/we/drostie
[01:49] <Guest20930> the proxy in my firefox was blocked...
[01:50] <drostie> ibuffy: okay. Download Jaunty's libical-dev package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libical-dev
[01:51] <pisnaz> hrrm need food but to dang curious to see if this will work lol
[01:51] <drostie> Install that with dpkg or by clicking it in Dolphin, then try to [sudo apt-get install kdepimlibs5-dev].
[01:51] <Guest20930> sorry... can u help me with the command in the terminal?
[01:51] <ibuffy> drostie: http://dpaste.com/2202/
[01:51] <ibuffy> couldn't install it
[01:52] <pisnaz> needs libcal6 and txdata according to apt-cache for the 0.33.-1
[01:52] <Guest20930> installing
[01:53] <drostie> ibuffy: hm. Download libical0 from the jaunty repository too, and install that first? :-D
[01:53] <pisnaz> sry tzdatd*
[01:53] <pisnaz> dagnabit **tzdata
[01:53] <ibuffy> Guest20930: i don't think pisnaz was telling you to download libcal6, that's for me i do believe
[01:53] <pisnaz> ibuffy: yeah just info
[01:53] <ibuffy> drostie: that was from the juanty repo
[01:54] <ibuffy> aha
[01:54] <ibuffy> nm
[01:54] <ibuffy> libcal 0
[01:54] <ibuffy> on it
[01:54] <pisnaz> Guest20930: I aske you and sent you a few questions or info and you did not respond to that yet
[01:54] <drostie> heh.
[01:54] <ibuffy> not found
[01:54] <ibuffy> aha
[01:54] <ibuffy> libical*
[01:55] <pisnaz> mmmm wildcards :P
[01:55] <drostie> heh. http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libical0
[01:55] <drostie> :-P
[01:55] <ibuffy> drumroll...
[01:55] <ibuffy> ack!
[01:55] <ibuffy> This package is uninstallable
[01:55] <ibuffy> A later version is already installed
[01:55] <ibuffy> """
[01:56] <pisnaz> broke the drums? :P
[01:56] <yao_ziyuan> QtCurve 0.61.3 for GTK2: http://filebin.ca/edzvp/qtcurve-gtk2_0.61.3-0_i386.deb
[01:56] <pisnaz> errm
[01:56] <ibuffy> :)
[01:56] <ibuffy> ^ drostie
[01:56] <drostie> ibuffy: [sudo apt-get remove libical0], iff it doesn't remove half of your system with it. ^_^
[01:56] <draik_> Does anyone have 'nopemukservicestub storage' running at 99-100% CPU?
[01:56] <pisnaz> lol
[01:57] <ibuffy> drostie: no worries, 4 to 5x was removed just yesterday
[01:58] <ibuffy> as a heads up, this is what's being removed: http://dpaste.com/2203/
[01:58] <ibuffy> so now...
[01:58] <ibuffy> let's gdebi this mofo
[01:58] <ibuffy> alright, jaunty libical0 is installing
[01:58] <draik_> Sorry, that was to be nepomukservicestub
[01:58] <pisnaz> funny eh we could of reinstalled about 4 times over by now but never was a suggestion rofl
[01:59] <ibuffy> now for libical-dev
[01:59] <pisnaz> holy hell that is gonna be messy lol
[01:59] <ibuffy> done
[01:59] <ibuffy> installed
[01:59] <ibuffy> i'm prepared for it
[01:59] <DaSkreech> pisnaz: Depends on the person
[01:59] <drostie> yeah, this looks like a Bad Idea(tm) that will Fail Gloriously(tm) ^_^
[01:59] <ibuffy> i have to get this proposal submitted soon
[01:59] <DaSkreech> I have stuff that I can fix with a 20 minute re-install but I prefer to spend 8 days fixing it
[02:00] <pisnaz> DaSkreech: Just a glaring contrast to a windows helproom rofl :P
[02:00] <drostie> ibuffy: can the damn kdepimlibs5-dev be installed yet?
[02:00] <pisnaz> lol same here
[02:00] <ibuffy> w00t
[02:00] <ibuffy> drostie: yup
[02:00] <ibuffy> now the big question... kdevelop....
[02:00] <pisnaz> been told oh that is unfixable reghost the system and gone oh yeah watch me :P
[02:01] <DaSkreech> pisnaz: Windows helproom: Close it and open it back. That didn't work? Ok try reboot. Hmm came back again? OK Format yoor machine and reinstall everything but that one application
[02:01] <ibuffy> i just want to use it for script-kiddie business, that's all
[02:02] <pisnaz> Daskreech: ROFL!  And even worse is that fact that they all seem to be 1. unknowledgable of the basic comp info, and 2. jerks.
[02:02] <DaSkreech> They aren't all jerks
[02:02] <luis__> in linux, there something similar to a firewall???
[02:02] <ibuffy> drostie: kdepimlibs5-dev installed
[02:02] <drostie> DaSkreech: you forgot, "have you tried updating your antivirus software and running a full system scan?"
[02:02] <pisnaz> true though a few of the rooms I hit when bored made me nearly cry
[02:02] <DaSkreech> but if they don't fit into the category of one then they are far too technical to help anyone
[02:02] <pisnaz> lol drostie
[02:02] <ibuffy> drostie: http://dpaste.com/2204/
[02:02] <Slartibartfast> luis__ something like iptables ? :-)
[02:02] <DaSkreech> !firewall | luis__
[02:03] <pisnaz> slap your system ibuffy :P
[02:03] <drostie> ibuffy: trace it out. What does [sudo apt-get install kdelibs4-dev] tell you?
[02:04] <ibuffy> drostie: it tells me i'm pretty
[02:04] <ibuffy> but aside from that...
[02:04] <Slartibartfast> Seems still no nice graphical frontend for iptables in Kubuntu, right
[02:04] <ibuffy> http://dpaste.com/2207/
[02:05] <pisnaz> you know it will be the very last package that is the broken/problem one eh :P
[02:05] <pisnaz> lol ibuffy
[02:05] <DaSkreech> Slartibartfast: Guarddog?
[02:05] <Slartibartfast> Mmmm ... let me see ...
[02:05] <ibuffy> o my! o my!
[02:05] <uih> I using gufw.. that's so simple
[02:06] <ibuffy> i want to dance but it would look really bad if i was dancing and crying at the same time :')
[02:06] <ibuffy> kde-devel is installing
[02:06]  * ibuffy reaches for the big-mac instead
[02:07] <pisnaz> cool
[02:07] <ibuffy> thank you drostie and you too pisnaz for rooting me on the entire time
[02:07] <pisnaz> cry-dancing is all the rage i hear :P
[02:08] <pisnaz> lol np I learnt som stuff also :P
[02:08] <pisnaz> some*
[02:08] <pisnaz> like I can not type on the keyboard dagnabit
[02:08] <drostie> ibuffy: I'm not sure you're out of the fire yet ^_^ but the experimental PPA is apparently all sorts of messed up right now, if you're getting all of these errors.
[02:09] <ibuffy> i want to think my family for always screaming through the walls that i can do it but to "turn that damn music down", mcdonald's for of course supplying your wonderfull burgers and greasy fries, [que the cheesy outro] and everyone.. you're the true heroes. thank you all and goodnight (not really)!
[02:09] <DaSkreech> drostie: Missed it what's happening ?
[02:09] <wildbat> how do i change the LANGUAGE in locale in KDE 4.1?
[02:09] <pisnaz> lol
[02:09] <drostie> DaSkreech: ibuffy is getting closer to a solution.
[02:10] <pisnaz> yeah the question now is what is broken by the extreme methods to get it to install and what will happen when you start rebuilding ?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> What was the problem ?
[02:10] <drostie> kdevelop packages in the experimental ppa have paradox dependencies.
[02:10] <ibuffy> my computer has issues with newer and better versions of itself
[02:10] <ibuffy> or what drostie said
[02:11] <pisnaz> should of called the makeover show before trying to redefind it's self image :P
[02:11] <pisnaz> redefine*
[02:11] <ibuffy> hehe
[02:12] <drostie> If you're still having trouble, get the jaunty alpha cd and reinstall, because I'm frickin' tired and want to sleep. ;-P
[02:12] <pisnaz> screaming at it saying "you look fat in that GUI" really is detrimental
[02:12] <DaSkreech> You should probably either be on backports or experimental
[02:12] <DaSkreech>  not both
[02:12] <ibuffy> kde may just need to lose weight and with nepomuk finally getting rid of java, it may just do that
[02:12] <DaSkreech> ibuffy: It did get rid of java
[02:12] <DaSkreech> hoora KDE 4.3
[02:12] <pisnaz> oh?
[02:12] <ibuffy> virtuoso
[02:13] <pisnaz> good to know
[02:13] <ibuffy> drostie: hehe, thanks a billion
[02:13] <ibuffy> i will do get out a jaunty cd if it actus up again
[02:13] <ibuffy> -do
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Is that in fries or hamburger billion ?
[02:13] <ibuffy> because i can't handly the madness again
[02:13] <hallowname> where can i get jaunty kde4 debs > 4.2.00?
[02:13] <ibuffy> USD which is worth less than both
[02:14] <DaSkreech> hallowname: pacakages.ubuntu.com
[02:14] <pisnaz> hehe
[02:14] <hallowname> DaSkreech: thx :D
[02:14] <pisnaz> still somehow pulled back above the loonie dagnabit
[02:14] <drostie> 'kay. g'night everybody!
[02:14] <ibuffy> thank you again
[02:14] <pisnaz> night drostie
[02:14] <pisnaz> set 4 alarms lol
[02:15] <luis__> okay people
[02:15] <luis__> before i say than if kubuntu has firewall
[02:15] <luis__> but i need the firewall because i need to desactivate the firewall in my router
[02:16] <luis__> can someone help me'
[02:16] <luis__> me router is a linksys WRT54G
[02:16] <yao_ziyuan> QtCurve 0.61.3 for KDE4: http://filebin.ca/foptmu/qtcurve-kde4_0.61.3-0_i386.deb
[02:16] <yao_ziyuan> DISCLAIMER: i uploaded these binaries from within china to filebin.ca via an insecure connection. use them at your own risk...
[02:16] <yao_ziyuan> but i strongly recommend you guys to test drive these 3 debs in a virtual machine
[02:17] <pisnaz> iptables is there luis
[02:17] <DaSkreech> luis__: Anyone else on your network?
[02:17] <luis__> no
[02:17] <luis__> just me :)
[02:17] <pisnaz> though why do you have to take down the routers firewall?
[02:17] <luis__> u know whats metal gear solid 4 tru?
[02:17] <DaSkreech> pisnaz: Gamezz!
[02:18] <pisnaz> just specify the system as a DMZ or open ports
[02:18] <luis__> the problem is pisnaz
[02:18] <luis__> than there is a error code
[02:18] <DaSkreech> pisnaz: Thanks of volunteering to help :)
[02:18] <pisnaz> hey how am I affecting your router? :P
[02:18] <Squidy> Hi there,, I'm trying to configure servicemenu to run xine when I click in a video file.... but nothing happens... and when I configure that to run mplayer or gmplayer it works... I think the trouble is in variable %F that xine is not recognizing... I'm using this: Exec=DISPLAY=:0.1 xine -f -g %F
[02:18] <luis__> than dont let me create rooms in metal gear online
[02:18] <luis__> i have checked some pages
[02:18] <luis__> and some say
[02:18] <luis__> than i have to activate UPnp, BUT, i have a lot of problems with this
[02:19] <luis__> others say than i have to open a port
[02:19] <luis__> but i tried this and nothing
[02:19] <Squidy> Can anyone help me? :)
[02:19] <luis__> others says i have to take down router firewall, but i dont know how to do this, yah?
[02:20] <luis__> the problem with UPnP is than i am disconnected from Playstation Network, thats why that solution is discarded, so i am triying the firewall thing :)
[02:20] <pisnaz> did you map the prot in the router ?  mind is fuzzy let me open my wrt45g config :P
[02:20] <luis__> u have a wrt54g???!!!
[02:21] <pisnaz> of course great for modding :P
[02:21] <pisnaz> nothing says fun like getting wifi up to nearly 10 km, though it can be tricky to get the angles lol
[02:21] <luis__> then, can u explain me why the UPnP gives so much problems with my ps3??
[02:22] <pisnaz> cause upnp is s**t ? :P
[02:22] <luis__> lol
[02:22] <luis__> then what i must do :S
[02:22] <luis__> take down the firewall??
[02:22] <pisnaz> you have the latest firmware?
[02:22] <luis__> i have 8.00
[02:23] <pisnaz> dang you think I know the #'s in my head lol
[02:23] <luis__> then why u ask me the firmware lol
[02:24] <pisnaz> asked if it was the latest :P
[02:24] <pisnaz> cause the released a firmware fix for it a bit ago if I recall right
[02:25] <pisnaz> can you open the routers config web page?
[02:25] <luis__> lol of course, who no?
[02:26] <pisnaz> kk remember I deal with all sorts :P
[02:26] <luis__> then f*cking help me :S
[02:26] <luis__> where i can download the lastes firmware then???
[02:26] <pisnaz> linksys.com
[02:27] <pisnaz> but.  the easy way is to just put the ip of the ps3 in the dmz
[02:27] <pisnaz> leave the computers protected by the firewall but opens the p23 wide open
[02:27] <luis__> pisnaz, i tried that, AND NO!!!!!!!! lololol
[02:28] <pisnaz> what?
[02:28] <luis__> dmz not work
[02:28] <luis__> i cant still create rooms :(
[02:28] <luis__> i already puted the ip for my ps3
[02:28] <pisnaz> wb da
[02:28] <queazel> why do I keep getting joined to this channel - is there a way to turn it off?
[02:28] <luis__> wb da?
[02:28] <pisnaz> kk then check for the latest firmware and upgrade
[02:28] <luis__> ok
[02:28] <luis__> that will help?
[02:29] <pisnaz> cause it is not a firewall or port issue if it is in the dmz and still not working
[02:29] <pisnaz> your only feasable option
[02:29] <luis__> and if than dont work...
[02:29] <luis__> i am fucked? >_>
[02:29] <pisnaz> google dd-wrt
[02:30] <pisnaz> if the firmware fails
[02:30] <luis__> ehh?
[02:31] <pisnaz> try the firmware first
[02:31] <DaSkreech> queazel: yes
[02:31] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | luis__
[02:31] <luis__> lol
[02:31] <luis__> ok
[02:31] <luis__> pisnaz
[02:31] <luis__> i am in linksys
[02:31] <pisnaz> DaSkreech: tks
[02:31] <luis__> and i dont know where r the firmwares lol
[02:32] <queazel> DaSkreech:ok, thx
[02:32] <pisnaz> click the support button
[02:32] <wildbat> how do i change the LANGUAGE in locale in KDE 4.1?
[02:33] <pisnaz> top right hand
[02:33] <luis__> okay
[02:33] <luis__> i clicked support
[02:33] <luis__> now?
[02:34] <queazel> .. got it sorted
[02:34]  * pisnaz seriously should of restocked my guinnesss supply
[02:34] <pisnaz> follow the directions on screen
[02:35] <DaSkreech> wildbat: check in system Settings
[02:35] <luis__> okay so
[02:35] <luis__> how i can now if my wrt54g is 1.0 or 1.1
[02:35] <luis__> know*
[02:35] <tobbo> hello there
[02:35] <pisnaz> turn it over should say on the bottom
[02:36] <luis__> done
[02:36] <Slartibartfast> luis__ check at the bottom ... the specifications will say
[02:36] <luis__> now i am downloading firmware 8.2 :)
[02:37] <pisnaz> really that high?  guess i should upgrade from 4 eh
[02:37] <luis__> LOL
[02:37] <luis__> >_>
[02:40] <pisnaz> err....
[02:41] <SuspectZero> hmm this is weird. when i type the command "firefox -remote 'openUrl(http://www.google.ca/,new-tab)'" into console it works but when i type it into the run command field it doesnt do anything. any ideas why?
[02:41] <mauricio_> hi
[02:41] <mauricio_> I have Samsung NC10
[02:41] <mauricio_> Audio is not working anymore, can you help me?
[02:42] <pisnaz> luis__: err chech that again your model must match your fw.  8.2 refers to a version/model of wrt54g not the fw's
[02:42] <asobi> why does some flv files play in vlc but not others?
[02:42] <Luija> ok pisnaz
[02:42] <Luija> actu installed
[02:42] <Luija> so now
[02:42] <Luija> the DMZ with this new firm will allow me to create rooms in MGO :D
[02:43] <Luija> ?
[02:43] <Luija> ok, the moment of the truth lol
[02:43] <Luija> let me click the "create room" button
[02:43] <pisnaz> if you have not bricked the router ..
[02:43] <Luija> :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[02:43] <Luija> :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[02:43] <Luija> "u cant create room".............................
[02:43] <Luija> T__________T
[02:44] <Luija> .........
[02:44] <pisnaz> check the model #, get the right firmware for the medel
[02:44] <pisnaz> 8.2 refers to a model#
[02:44] <Luija> but its upgraded
[02:44] <pisnaz> model*
[02:45] <Luija> 8.00.5
[02:45] <Luija> thats the firmware now
[02:45] <pisnaz> k
[02:45] <Luija> so...?
[02:45] <pisnaz> give me a few phone
[02:46] <Luija> ehhh...???
[02:49] <wildbat> DaSkreech: $locale>>LANGUAGE=en_US:en  so how do i change to UTF8 ?
[02:51] <Luija> pisnaz...?
[02:51] <unknown__> SUP
[02:51] <DaSkreech> wildbat: UTF-8 is not a language
[02:52] <Queef> Sup?
[02:52] <peaches> does this recording audio work for anyone in intrepid? it used to work in hardy now it's broken: "arecord -f cd -t raw | lame -x - audio.mp3
[02:52] <uih> export LANG=en_US:utf8
[02:52] <Queef> eatin autin gootin
[02:53] <I-Sniff-Butts> So, what is going on?
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[02:54] <Wargasm> stfu
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[02:55] <DaSkreech> !ops
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[02:55] <Wargasm> ban
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[02:55] <Pici> vorian: just dealt with it
[02:55] <DaSkreech> Thanks Pici
[02:55] <Wargasm> thank you
[02:55] <vorian> Pici: awesome
[02:55] <Pici> er, Rather I just dealt with it.
[02:56]  * DaSkreech laughs
[02:56] <DaSkreech> vorian: You aren't even in the list of names :)
[02:56] <DaSkreech> Thanks too
[02:57] <luis__> pisnaz...
[03:01] <DaSkreech> !ps3
[03:01] <DaSkreech> Liar
[03:01] <DaSkreech> !ppc
[03:04] <luis__> ilol
[03:04] <luis__> !lol
[03:04] <luis__> lol...
[03:04] <DaSkreech> lol
[03:05] <luis__> !really
[03:05] <luis__> !rly
[03:05] <luis__> !f*ck
[03:05] <luis__> ...
[03:05] <luis__> !xbox
[03:05] <luis__> !xbox360
[03:05] <luis__> lol ubutto dont like videogames lololol
[03:06] <DaSkreech> she likes one
[03:07] <DaSkreech> !wow
[03:08] <luis__> !LOL
[03:08] <luis__> !OMG
[03:09] <tobbo> anybody have 3d display driver for sys 672?
[03:10] <DaSkreech> !botabuse > luis__
[03:11] <jin_122> how do i fix this error? Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:11] <jin_122>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[03:11] <jin_122> e-jat: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:11] <jin_122> i got that error from this sudo get-apt install linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
[03:12] <DaSkreech> jin_122: rm /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb && sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
[03:14] <DaSkreech> jin_122: Sudo the first command
[03:14] <DaSkreech> luis__: That's a really long phone call
[03:14] <jin_122> rm /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb && sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
[03:17] <jin_122> DaSkreech: i'm getting it ...
[03:17] <DaSkreech> tobbo: sudo lshw -C Video and pastebin
[03:20] <tobbo> Hardware Lister (lshw) - B.02.13
[03:20] <tobbo> usage: lshw [-format] [-options ...]
[03:20] <tobbo>        lshw -version
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-version        print program version (B.02.13)
[03:20] <tobbo> format can be
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-html           output hardware tree as HTML
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-xml            output hardware tree as XML
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-short          output hardware paths
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-businfo        output bus information
[03:20] <tobbo> options can be
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-class CLASS    only show a certain class of hardware
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-C CLASS        same as '-class CLASS'
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-c CLASS        same as '-class CLASS'
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-disable TEST   disable a test (like pci, isapnp, cpuid, etc. )
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-enable TEST    enable a test (like pci, isapnp, cpuid, etc. )
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-quiet          don't display status
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-sanitize       sanitize output (remove sensitive information like serial numbers, etc.)
[03:20] <tobbo> 	-numeric        output numeric IDs (for PCI, USB, etc.)
[03:20] <jin_122> xDasSkreech: the same error popped out. Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:20] <jin_122>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[03:20] <jin_122> e-jat: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:22] <jin_122> i went into my /bin and i dun see any dpkg. is that a problem?
[03:23] <DaSkreech> jin_122: for a kernel? no not a problem
[03:24] <DaSkreech> jin_122: Oh wait you are looking for dpkg ?
[03:24] <jin_122> i'm trying to install that package. but it seems like i keep getting into trouble
[03:24] <DaSkreech> jin_122: try apt-get -f install
[03:25] <DaSkreech> sudo
[03:25] <jin_122>  e-jat: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)  <--- so i went to cehck if the dpgk folder is there
[03:25] <DaSkreech> tobbo: What was the command you used?
[03:25] <DaSkreech> jin_122: dpkg is in /usr/bin
[03:25] <jin_122> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[03:25] <DaSkreech> not /bin
[03:25] <jin_122> that's what i get when i run ur -f install
[03:26] <DaSkreech> !adeptfix
[03:26] <DaSkreech> tru sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:26] <jin_122> nothing happen"
[03:27] <[Tequila]> How can I obtain the full history of Klipper
[03:27] <[Tequila]> for ex if I have 8 links in klipper history how can I select and copy all of them
[03:28] <[Tequila]> How can I obtain the full history of Klipper, for ex if I have 8 links in klipper history how can I select and copy all of them
[03:28] <maze12> salut à tous
[03:29] <jin_122> DaSkreech: I can't locate my dpkg folder in usr/bin either
[03:29] <DaSkreech> jin_122: run which dpkg
[03:30] <jin_122> what?
[03:30] <diana> hola
[03:30] <diana> hoooooooooooooola
[03:30] <diana> hola
[03:30] <diana> hola
[03:30] <DaSkreech> jin_122: which dpkg
[03:30] <jin_122> this come up /usr/bin/dpkg
[03:31] <DaSkreech> jin_122: ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg
[03:31] <DaSkreech> !hi | diana
[03:31] <diana> hola que tal ???
[03:31] <DaSkreech> !es | diana
[03:31] <jin_122> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 375340 2009-02-04 12:34 /usr/bin/dpkg
[03:31] <jin_122> what now?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> jin_122: That's correct then
[03:32] <jin_122> DaSkreech: what does that mean? how come i can't install my package
[03:32] <[Tequila]> How can I obtain the full history of Klipper, for ex if I have 8 links in klipper history how can I select and copy all of them
[03:32] <DaSkreech> uno momento
[03:33] <DaSkreech> [Tequila]: You don't
[03:33] <[Tequila]> I need too :)
[03:33] <[Tequila]> or another ustility DaSkreech
[03:34] <DaSkreech> [Tequila]: You can paste them one after anoher if you like I think
[03:34] <GWild> anyone here running Intrepid Ibex and an NVidia GeForce 6200 ?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> then just highlight them and you have them in one shot
[03:34] <DaSkreech> tobbo: How did you get that error?
[03:35] <DaSkreech> jin_122: do you have anything in /var/lib/dpkg/info ?
[03:35] <[Tequila]> DaSkreech: I need to be able to "copy" mass amounts of links to a .txt of some sort
[03:35] <[Tequila]> DaSkreech: without going from copy link > to .txt file > paste
[03:36] <jin_122> DaSkreech: I have 5229 items in that folder
[03:36] <tobbo> tobbo: sudo lshw -C Video and pastebin
[03:38] <DaSkreech> jin_122: delete them then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
[03:38] <DaSkreech> tobbo: take off the and pastebin
[03:38] <DaSkreech> tobbo: just sudo lshw -C video
[03:38] <jin_122> DaSkreech: delete all 5229 items ????
[03:39] <tobbo> ok.what should i do then
[03:40] <DaSkreech> jin_122: Or you can hunt down the .list for that file
[03:40] <DaSkreech> !paste | tobbo
[03:40] <DaSkreech> pastebin it
[03:41] <jin_122> DaSkreech: are these files important ? if yes, how do i hunt down the .list for that file i'm trying to install
[03:43] <tobbo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/123623/plain/
[03:44] <DaSkreech> jin_122: not really
[03:44] <jin_122> DaSkreech: it says permission denied when i tried to delete these files?
[03:45] <DaSkreech> jin_122: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[03:45] <DaSkreech> tobbo: Oh ... sis
[03:45] <DaSkreech> !sis
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Of course you don't
[03:46] <tobbo> is there no 3d driver for sis?
[03:46] <DaSkreech> tobbo: No good ones
[03:47] <DaSkreech> tobbo: What are you trying to get running?
[03:47] <jin_122> pDaskreech: permission denied.....
[03:47] <DaSkreech> jin_122: hmm ok hold on
[03:49] <DaSkreech> jin_122: does it say for which file ?
[03:50] <jin_122> DaSkreech: @ first it says that argument was too long so i did the comand again w/o the * and i did it for each file .. the first 10 files was denied permmision
[03:50] <DaSkreech> jin_122: What are the first files ?
[03:52] <jin_122> killermach: remove write-protected regular file `/var/lib/dpkg/info/acl.list'? y
[03:52] <jin_122> killermach: cannot remove `/var/lib/dpkg/info/acl.list': Permission denied
[03:52] <jin_122> that's first file
[03:52] <DaSkreech> that's with sudo ?
[03:53] <jin_122> thesleepingox@ubuntu:~$ sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[03:53] <jin_122> [sudo] password for thesleepingox:
[03:53] <jin_122> sudo: unable to execute /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[03:53] <jin_122> sudo give me this
[03:53] <DaSkreech> jin_122: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/l*
[03:55] <jin_122> ok. that removed about 2000 files off my info folder . should i go ahead and excute that install command linux package?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> update and then yes
[03:55] <DaSkreech> oh
[03:55] <DaSkreech> run sudo apt-get clean first
[04:00] <jin_122> DaSkreech:  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[04:00] <jin_122> e-jat: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:00] <jin_122> that same error happened again
[04:00] <jin_122> :(
[04:01] <jin_122> DaSkreech:  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[04:01] <jin_122> e-jat: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:01] <jin_122> that happened again :(
[04:01] <DaSkreech> jin_122: It downloaded it first right ?
[04:01] <jin_122> yes. it downloadd and install but failed
[04:01] <SJr> Anyone know if UT 2004 Linux is purchasable online (like Steam)
[04:03] <DaSkreech> SJr: Don't know
[04:03] <EtFb> Anyone know how to defined global shortcut keys in Windows?  This is more on-topic than it seems for #kubuntu: I got hooked on being able to start all my apps in Kubuntu using various keys -- Win+F for Firefox, Win+W for Open Office Writer, etc -- and now I want to do the same in Windows.  WITHOUT installing KDE there!  Has anyone scratched a similar itch?
[04:03] <SJr> EtFb can't you just create a shortcut
[04:03] <SJr> then assign a key combo to the short cut
[04:04] <EtFb> Sjr: Hmmm... I don't know.  Let me check...
[04:04] <jin_122> EtFb: get a macro program. then u can set up different shortcut keys
[04:04] <SJr> And that is so off topic I would not only ban you off this network, I would break into your house and anally rape your mother for trying to use that line. You are also switching from Linux which is in excusable
[04:05] <EtFb> Sjr: Nope, only allows Ctrl+Alt+[letter], whereas I want to use Win+[letter], cos I use Emacs so everything else is already defined...
[04:05] <DaSkreech> !coc | SJr
[04:05] <SJr> Hmmmm let me see EtFb
[04:05] <EtFb> SJr: Switching from Linux?  Rinse out your mouth, ye varlot!!!  Naah, I just have to use Windoze at work.
[04:05] <SJr> lol yeah I'm just messing around
[04:05] <DaSkreech> SJr: Don
[04:06] <DaSkreech> Don't
[04:06] <SJr> No I mean the switching from Linux remark :P
[04:06] <jin_122> DaSkreech: anyother ways ?
[04:06] <EtFb> SJr: Absolutely, DaSkreech - I was quite unoffended.  Quite a reasonable response when someone appears to be using Windows.  They kill you for that in Moslem countries...
[04:06] <SJr> muslim :P
[04:06] <SJr> http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-2939140.ph
[04:06] <SJr> errr
[04:06] <SJr> http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-2939140.php
[04:07] <DaSkreech> jin_122: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[04:07] <SJr> Speaking of short cut keys, how is gods name do I get the K menu to pop up when I press the windows key
[04:08] <DaSkreech> You can't under X
[04:08] <SJr> omg that is so lame
[04:08] <DaSkreech> Without hacking
[04:08] <DaSkreech> The WIndows key is a modifer key
[04:08] <DaSkreech> Like Shift
[04:08] <DaSkreech> byitself it's not allowed to do anything
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Though you can get around that
[04:14] <DaSkreech> jin_122: done ?
[04:14] <jin_122> DaSkreech: done downloading. how do i install this?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> sudo dpkg -a linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[04:15] <SJr> DaSkreech how can I get around that? with a keyboard map by chance.
[04:15] <DaSkreech> yeah I would guess
[04:16] <DaSkreech> I didn't see how it was done but I know someone made that one button pop up an app
[04:16] <DaSkreech> course then he couldn't use itfor anything else
[04:16] <jin_122> thesleepingox@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -a linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[04:16] <jin_122> [sudo] password for thesleepingox:
[04:16] <jin_122> dpkg: need an action option
[04:16] <jin_122> thesleepingox@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -a linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[04:16] <jin_122> [sudo] password for thesleepingox:
[04:16] <jin_122> dpkg: need an action option
[04:16] <jin_122> thesleepingox@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -a linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[04:16] <jin_122> [sudo] password for thesleepingox:
[04:16] <jin_122> dpkg: need an action option
[04:16] <DaSkreech> jin_122: sorry! -i not -a
[04:17] <jin_122> thesleepingox@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -a linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[04:17] <jin_122> dpkg: need an action option
[04:17] <jin_122> it says dpkg: need an action option
[04:17] <jin_122> which one do i choose?
[04:17] <DaSkreech> jin_122: sorry! -i not -a
[04:17] <jin_122> DaSkreech: sorry, i didn't know i pasted so much. my mirc was scrolled up
[04:18] <DaSkreech> jin_122: you were about to get kicked
[04:18] <jin_122> sorry :(
[04:18] <maco> holy crud
[04:19] <jin_122> this come up : Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:19] <jin_122>  linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb
[04:20] <jin_122> i think this is what you might want Unpacking replacement linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic ...
[04:20] <jin_122> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.16_i386.deb (--install):
[04:20] <jin_122>  unable to make backup link of `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[04:21] <DaSkreech> jin_122: do you have a /boot partition ?
[04:21] <tobbo> ups. no 3d driver?:(
[04:21] <jin_122> DaSkreech: what do you mean? I installed my linux to my external hd
[04:21] <DaSkreech> tobbo: what are you trying to get working ?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> jin_122: on one partition ?
[04:22] <jin_122> yeah all in my ex hd
[04:25] <xlevel1> hi, I have kde compositing working nicely on my login, xlevel1, but on the other login, neil, it complains about X configuration problems.  Why?
[04:26] <xlevel1> I even copied and pasted ~/.kde and it didn't help
[04:29] <CMcCombs> Hi everyone, I just installed 8.10 on my laptop and so far everything's seemed to work fine, except for the audio.  I hear nothing from the speakers...  I'm not sure where to start trouble shooting this either.
[04:34] <DaSkreech> !sound | CMcCombs
[04:34] <DaSkreech> e-jat: what file system did you use?
[04:35] <DaSkreech> jin_122: ping
[04:35] <jin_122> ?
[04:36] <DaSkreech> How did you install linux
[04:36] <DaSkreech> from wubi or from the live CD ?
[04:36] <xlevel1> one of the users on this computer can use kwin desktop effects just fine but the other gets an error message.  I tried copying and pasting the ~/.kde but it didn't help.
[04:36] <jin_122> DaSkreech: i don't know what do you mean my ile system. :/ . i installed it windows mode to my external hd. then i reboot computer into linux os.
[04:37] <DaSkreech> https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/252900
[04:37] <DaSkreech> jin_122: read that
[04:38] <jin_122> ok. Daskreech: thank you very much or helping me, you're a saint. Hope to speak with you again. Good night.
[04:38] <DaSkreech> Night
[04:46] <Cyntek> hi. im running ubuntu-server 8.10 and i have installed a second hard drive in ext3 filesystem. i want to create directories e.g: /videos ; /documents; /music; and /photos. but when i mount each one successfully, and when i start the filetransfer
[04:47] <Cyntek> if i transfer photos to the /photos directory it seems that it will show up in the /music; /documents/ directories as well, how can i fix this?
[04:48] <szal> Cyntek: sounds like you mounted all these folders to the same partition/directory..
[04:49] <Cyntek> well when i formatted the hard drive i made it as one partition.
[04:50] <Guest57767>  hi i just installed kmldonkey  should it create a fo;der for my downloads , if so where can i fine it
[04:50] <szal> Cyntek: how exactly did you mount the dirs?
[04:50] <Cyntek> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /music
[04:50] <Cyntek> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /documents
[04:51] <Cyntek> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /photos
[04:51] <Cyntek> just like that.
[04:51] <Slartibartfast> Cyntek: better not mount the same partition several times
[04:52] <Cyntek> is that why it keeps dupicating the files in each directory.
[04:52] <Slartibartfast> yeah
[04:52] <szal> Cyntek: so I was right
[04:53] <Cyntek> hmm. so what i need to do, create seperate partitions for different directories.
[04:53] <Slartibartfast> mount the partition once, and then make softlinks to the dirs
[04:53] <szal> Cyntek: mount /dev/sdb1/music /music ; mount /dev/sdb1/photos /photos       and so forth
[04:55] <Cyntek> okay, so im gonna reformat the drive and start over.
[04:56] <szal> Cyntek: no need to, just make sure the directories from/to which to mount exist and put the files where you want them
[05:03] <GWild> Slartibartfast:
[05:04] <Slartibartfast> ?
[05:04] <GWild> Slartibartfast: Don't Panic (sorry - couldn't resist)
[05:05] <szal> huh?
[05:05] <Slartibartfast> :-D OK ... wave to towel :-P
[05:05] <szal> Slartibartfast an Archer? ;)
[05:05] <GWild> I need 2 beers
[05:05] <GWild> and quickly
[05:05] <Slartibartfast> and give me a PanGalactic Gargle Blaster :-P
[05:06] <GWild> with infinite improbability...
[05:06] <GWild> good stuff lol
[05:06] <Slartibartfast> :-)
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: It's not duplicating them
[05:11] <Cyntek> DaSkreech, what's it doing ?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> you are creating multiple views of the same thing
[05:12] <DaSkreech> The hard drive is where things are stored
[05:12] <DaSkreech>  the directories you see are just a way for us humans to make sense of it
[05:12] <DaSkreech> In UNIX you can tell any directory to point at a file system on a hard drive
[05:13] <DaSkreech> so you just told a whole lot of directories to point to the same place
[05:13] <DaSkreech> It's not taking up any more space or doing anything wrong
[05:13] <DaSkreech> You just set it up so you could see the same files from multiple places
[05:14] <Cyntek> hmm. k
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: Did that make sense ?
[05:14] <Cyntek> yes.
[05:14] <Cyntek> this is what im following: http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Adding_a_New_Disk_Drive_to_an_Ubuntu_Linux_System
[05:14] <DaSkreech> ok If you unmount all but one then you will have all the files just viewable from one place
[05:15] <Cyntek> oh.
[05:15] <Cyntek> alright.
[05:15] <Cyntek> so instead of calling it /photos i should call it as /store
[05:15] <DaSkreech> Sure :)
[05:16] <DaSkreech>  then in store you make multiple directories
[05:16] <DaSkreech> then when ever you mount it all the directories will appear
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: Want me to run through some exercises to demonstrate?
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: That walk through is overly complex btw
[05:16] <Cyntek> Yes.
[05:17] <Cyntek> Thank you.
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Ok you have the partition mounted ?
[05:18] <Cyntek> yes: /dev/sdb1 on /photos type ext3 (rw)
[05:18] <szal> as for the theory..  basic assumption: in Unix everything is a file
[05:18] <DaSkreech> and mounted where else ?
[05:18] <DaSkreech> szal: Just about :)
[05:19] <Cyntek> i dont think its mounted anywhere else.
[05:19] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: you can type mount | grep sdb1
[05:19] <DaSkreech> To see
[05:20] <Cyntek> only at: /dev/sdb1 on /photos type ext3 (rw)
[05:20] <Cyntek> should i rename /photos to /store
[05:21] <draik_> I have uploaded a *.sh file to my Linux server. My error message is this... ./application.sh: ./setup.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[05:22] <draik_> I'm SSH'd onto the server as root
[05:22] <szal> draik_: files are executable?
[05:22] <draik_> szal:  I already 'chmod a+x application.sh'
[05:25] <Cyntek> DaSkreech, can i pm you?
[05:25] <yao_ziyuan1> my ksysguard shows 'gnome-screensaver' running. is it normal?
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: ok make a directory under /photos
[05:26] <DaSkreech> call it photos
[05:27] <Cyntek> okay.
[05:27] <DaSkreech> tobbo: What are you trying to get working
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: So you have /photos/photos now ?
[05:27] <Cyntek> yes.
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: touch /photos/photos/see.jpg
[05:29] <Cyntek> okay.
[05:29] <draik_> How can I install 'application.sh' on a server?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: sudo umount /photos
[05:29] <Cyntek> alright.
[05:30] <DaSkreech> mkdir ~/notphotos && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 ~/notphotos
[05:31] <DaSkreech> You should have a directory named notphotos in your home directory now
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Look inside it
[05:31] <Cyntek> i see it.
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Whats in it ?
[05:33] <Cyntek> the photos i uploaded to.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> and a directory photos? With a see.jpg inside ?
[05:34] <Cyntek> yes.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> ok mkdir ~/notphotos/videos
[05:35] <Cyntek> alright.
[05:35] <DaSkreech> then sudo umount ~/notphotos && rmdir notphotos
[05:35] <Cyntek> alright.
[05:36] <DaSkreech> The directory is gone ?
[05:36] <Cyntek> Yes.
[05:37] <DaSkreech> sudo mkdir /mnt/store && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/store
[05:37] <Cyntek> okay.
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: So you can put directories anywhere you want and mount hard drives there
[05:45] <DaSkreech> If the hard drives aren't mounted then the normal files will be there
[05:46] <DaSkreech> If the drives are not mounted you can even delete the directories
[05:46] <DaSkreech> once you remount them then all the files they had show up
[05:46] <Cyntek> Ah, i understand now, how it works.
[05:46] <Cyntek> cool.
[05:46] <Cyntek> thanks for the understanding.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> !fstab | Cyntek
[05:47] <DaSkreech> might want to read !fhs as well
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: So your /mnt/store directory exists now :)
[05:48] <Slartibartfast> draik_: you can start a shell script with "sh shell_script.sh" ... or by doing ./shell_script.sh
[05:48] <Cyntek> yep!
[05:48] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: That link will show you how to get it to be there every boot
[05:49] <Cyntek> Alright., thanks for the help
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Cyntek: you can even mount other computers as a directory in your computer :)
[05:50] <DaSkreech> it's quite a nice system
[05:52] <Cyntek> DaSkreech, Thank you!
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Cool
[06:08] <Tukon> anyone know how to enable raster graphics in jaunty alpha 5?
[06:09] <maco> you mean like to not use svg images on the icons in the menu and stuff? why?
[06:09] <Tukon> know the rendering mode in x/qt4.5
[06:09] <maco> oh....um *shrug*
[06:09] <bazhang> jaunty questions in #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <maco> hes getting no answers there either
[06:11] <maco> ah nevermind. crdlb answred
[06:12] <Tukon> we'll see
[06:12] <Tukon> thx
[06:12] <olskolirc> can someone just give me the repository line to put in my sources.lst?  Ive been getting the run around for an hour and i really have to go
[06:14] <maco> olskolirc: what repository line?
[06:15] <bazhang> sample list here--> http://www.kubuntuguide.org/
[06:15] <olskolirc> the repository to upgrade to kde 4.2 maco
[06:16] <bazhang> thought it was in backports now
[06:16] <olskolirc> i don't know
[06:16] <olskolirc> can someone point me out please? geeze
[06:16] <maco> it is in backports now
[06:17] <bazhang> enable backports then
[06:18] <Slartibartfast> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multivers
[06:18] <Slartibartfast> or another mirror near you
[06:18] <bazhang> +e
[06:19] <maco> software-properties-kde doesnt have checkboxes for backports like the gtk one does?
[06:19] <olskolirc> thank you soooo much Slartibartfast lap dance for you and dont worry, imma girl :-P
[06:20] <maco> O_o
[06:20] <maco> er....
[06:20] <Slartibartfast> :-) ... np
[06:20] <maco> well that's awkward
[06:21] <maco> olskolirc: what if Slartibartfast is too?
[06:21] <Slartibartfast> :-P But he is not
[06:21] <olskolirc> way cool?
[06:21] <Slartibartfast> :-D
[06:21] <olskolirc> lol Slartibartfast
[06:22]  * Slartibartfast likes lapdances
[06:22] <maco> im just wondering...because if i'd been faster than him...
[06:22] <maco> wow
[06:22] <maco> weird
[06:31] <maco> olskolirc: so you know, there are a bunch of other girls in #ubuntu-women if you want to hang out with us
[06:33] <olskolirc> ohhhh wowwwwwww
[06:34] <olskolirc> I didn't know that maco thank
[06:36] <olskolirc> my kde 4.2 is installing yay me
[06:36]  * olskolirc doing a butt dance
[06:37] <draik_> olskolirc: I installed it last week. It's been acting quite stable than 4.1.4 (which is expected) and it also seems to make things a bit smoother on my end.
[06:38] <DaSkreech> maco: It's called unsuppoerted updates
[06:38] <maco> DaSkreech: they dont say backports anywhere?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> maco: Not that I know of
[06:38] <draik_> DaSkreech: I think I will concretely agree with you and believe the 1TB HDD is a goner. I'm going to nuke it later tonight if not early tomorrow and then get it exchanged.
[06:38] <olskolirc> I'm reinstalling draik_ I don't know what I did but I permenently lost audio and video codecs in vlc
[06:39] <DaSkreech> I think Since Ibex Gnome does the same
[06:39] <DaSkreech> draik_: Yeah
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Check your cables as well
[06:39] <draik_> olskolirc: I did too. I just restarted and it was all back. Specifically, amarok was giving me issues.
[06:39] <HollowPoint> hey folks, who knows more than I do about KDE4 Bluetooth?
[06:39]  * DaSkreech slowly puts down his hand
[06:39] <HollowPoint> :(
[06:40] <maco> DaSkreech: in gnome it says "Unsupported updates (jaunty-backports)" for me
[06:40] <draik_> DaSkreech: I have and it's all pointing to the HDD. It fails at different times so I can't narrow it down to anything non-HDD related
[06:40] <olskolirc> oh i fought tooth and nail since last night draik_  then i went over to the gnome side and tired and got a popup message that unfortunately it can't be fixed
[06:40] <DaSkreech> maco: ok probably says the same in the jaunty for Kubuntu then
[06:40] <olskolirc> im all done brb
[06:41] <draik_> I was just going to wish olskolirc luck. :(
[06:43] <draik_> Would anyone happen to know how to install app.sh within a server? I can't seem to get it accomplished.
[06:43] <draik_> I have uploaded a *.sh file to my Linux server. My error message is...       ./application.sh: ./setup.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[06:44] <Slartibartfast> ./app.sh doesn't work ?
[06:44] <draik_> Slartibartfast: That's the error message I get
[06:44] <Slartibartfast> is there and /bin/sh ? .... maybe change that in /bin/bash
[06:45] <Slartibartfast> or make a symlink from /bin/bash to /bin/sh
[06:45] <pteague> any idea if i'll have any issues switching from an nvidia 8600gts to a 9600gt ?
[06:45] <maco> Slartibartfast: other direction?
[06:46] <Slartibartfast> well i have a /bin/sh
[06:46] <draik_> How do I make a symlink again? I recall that it's backwards
[06:46] <draik_> I have both
[06:46] <draik_> I have /bin/bash and /bin/sh
[06:46] <maco> Slartibartfast: /bin/sh symlinks to /bin/dash
[06:46] <maco> in ubuntu
[06:46] <Slartibartfast> so application.sh wants to start setup.sh
[06:47] <draik_> Seems that way
[06:47] <draik_> I put the app.sh in it's own App folder
[06:47] <pteague> draik_: man ln
[06:47] <Slartibartfast> yes here in jaunty too
[06:47] <draik_> ln -s bash sh or is it ln -s sh bash ?
[06:48] <luis__> ei guys
[06:48] <luis__> just to ask a question
[06:48] <luis__> i needed to unistall guarddog because it was not letting me connect to my router
[06:48] <luis__> why was that problem?
[06:48] <Slartibartfast> ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[06:49] <Slartibartfast> but remove the old /bin/sh first
[06:50] <draik_> Done
[06:51] <DaSkreech> holycow: blessedbeef!
[06:51] <draik_> Kosher?
[06:51] <draik_> Slartibartfast: Still getting the same error
[06:53] <Slartibartfast> mmm ... maybe first reverse your steps :-) ..... rm -fr /bin/sh && ln -s /bin/dash /bin/sh
[06:53] <Slartibartfast> what kind of application.sh is this? ..
[06:53] <draik_> Small game
[06:54] <Slartibartfast> maybe it is something similar as what they speak about in this URL ... http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/archives-software/347172-setup-sh-bin-sh-bad-interpreter-permission-denied.html
[06:55] <Slartibartfast> one answer was: Your setup.sh file has DOS line endings (CR-NL) instead of Unix line endings (NL). Fix it with a decent text editor.
[06:57] <draik_> I have installed the game locally a while back on my 2 laptops and 1 desktop. Same file, never had an issue.
[06:58] <Slartibartfast> mmm ... and never opened the shell script under windows ?
[06:59] <draik_> NOpe
[07:00] <Slartibartfast> strange ... i'm googling your error message now ...
[07:00] <draik_> Thanks. I'm not sure where to begin looking so I thought I'd ask here first for some insight.
[07:02] <Slartibartfast> well the error " ./setup.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied" give quiet some results
[07:02] <DaSkreech> draik_: run it with bash
[07:04] <draik_> How? I'm just typing     ./game.sh      and that's it
[07:08] <DaSkreech> draik_: bash game.sh
[07:08] <draik_> Nope. Still the same issue
[07:08] <shadeslayer> hi i want to detect the leds on my keyboard
[07:08] <shadeslayer> and run this command sudo iwconfig eth1 rate autoSubstitute your interface
[07:09] <shadeslayer> ill be using scroll lock to monitor my ethernet connection
[07:09] <draik_> shadeslayer: Have you gotten your audio to work?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> draik_: Where is setup.sh ?
[07:09] <shadeslayer> draik_: long time ago,why??
[07:10] <shadeslayer> draik_: i just restarted my notebook after a update
[07:10] <draik_> shadeslayer: ditto, I just had to restart.
[07:10] <shadeslayer> hahahaha
[07:10] <draik_> LOL.
[07:10] <shadeslayer> :)
[07:10] <draik_> DaSkreech: It is in my domain's httpdocs/Game/game.sh
[07:10] <shadeslayer> draik_: do you know how to detect the scroll lock led device name??
[07:11] <DaSkreech> and it's called via ./setup.sh ?
[07:11] <draik_> shadeslayer: Nope.
[07:12] <draik_> DaSkreech: That's what is says per error message
[07:12] <shadeslayer> i cant find the command though ive seen it somewhere before
[07:12] <HollowPoint> Anyone in here yet that knows about Bluetooth in KDE4?
[07:12] <shadeslayer> what about it?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> draik_: swap that line out to bash setup.sh
[07:12] <shadeslayer> !bluetooth
[07:12] <draik_> There isn't a setup.sh file in there, just game.sh
[07:13] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: may i trouble you??
[07:13] <DaSkreech> I suppose
[07:13] <HollowPoint> yeah thanks for that, I'm a 3rd line I.T. engineer, LAMP developer and I haven't checked the default setups yet, that helps. So anyone here that knows a lot about Bluetooth in KDE4?
[07:13] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: remember when i asked you  about the scroll lock key??
[07:13] <DaSkreech> draik_: grep setup.sh game.sh
[07:13] <DaSkreech> No
[07:14] <draik_> Binary file game.sh matches
[07:14] <DaSkreech> >_<
[07:14] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: ok,well can you give a command which detects my led device(scroll lock )
[07:14] <DaSkreech> draik_: you have the file on another computer that works?
[07:14] <DaSkreech> led device ?
[07:15] <shadeslayer> Scroll lock led at the top of the keyboard
[07:15] <draik_> I have it saved on a CD.
[07:15] <shadeslayer> i want to use it to monitor eth0
[07:15] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: something like tleds
[07:15] <shadeslayer> only for ethernet
[07:16] <DaSkreech> draik_: run a md5sum on it
[07:16] <DaSkreech> so when the ethernet gets activity that flashes?
[07:16] <shadeslayer> yup
[07:16] <draik_> 4aa689cb5a073364173046f8fb4af6be  game.sh
[07:16] <shadeslayer> sudo iwconfig eth1 rate autoSubstitute your interface
[07:16] <shadeslayer> that command should work
[07:17] <shadeslayer> i just need the interface name
[07:18] <DaSkreech> draik_: that matchines the one on your computer?
[07:18] <DaSkreech> for the light?
[07:18] <shadeslayer> yeah
[07:19] <draik_> DaSkreech: That's what I have on the laptop
[07:19] <draik_> Let me get the one from the net
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Oh I'm not sure ask in ##linux maybe ?
[07:19] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: me??
[07:21] <Slartibartfast> draik_: it is possible that your "environment variables" are not set correctly .. you can test this, by adding another user and try to execute as that user ... i just read a long thread about some similar problem one person had in Mandriva:http://mandrivausers.org/lofiversion/index.php/t8604.html
[07:22] <draik_> DaSkreech: Nope. 7940e213b7894968152cec9146e611ef  game.sh
[07:23] <draik_> 4aa... goes to the local file and 794... goes to the one online.
[07:23] <draik_> I now have a new error
[07:23] <Slartibartfast> draik_ try to execute that one from online then
[07:23] <Slartibartfast> hmm
[07:23] <draik_> Never mind. I was accidentally trying to execute from the local, not online
[07:24] <shadeslayer> DaSkreech: any idea??
[07:24] <DaSkreech> shadeslayer: Yes you. ##linux might know
[07:24] <shadeslayer> ok
[07:24] <draik_> I just uploaded the game.sh again and now I have "Permission denied"
[07:25] <Slartibartfast> and /bin/bash game.sh?
[07:25] <draik_> Whoopsie. Forgot to a+x this new upload.
[07:26] <draik_> Ok, new error message
[07:26] <draik_> Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: ef8837186f11f8d9dda303c375e38917 is different from c348f24b17db79da7729183e6eb1516e
[07:26] <draik_> Now I have 4 different md5sum
[07:31] <draik_> Before I blow my brains out with the bad HDD issue and the newly acquired game.sh issue, I'm going to watch a movie of others blowing their brains out and go to sleep. I've got minutes to midnight.
[07:32] <draik_> Thank you all for your help. Maybe all I need is a new pair of eyes, aka rest.
[07:32] <draik_> Thanks again.
[07:59] <pgenest> yep
[08:13] <stagga> hello
[08:13] <stagga> i have a problem
[08:14] <stagga> audacity could not find lame lib
[08:14] <stagga> how do i solve
[08:16] <Slartibartfast> stagga: maybe install lame first .... enable the medibuntu repostorie and sudo apt-get install lame
[08:16] <Slartibartfast> !medibuntu
[08:22] <Dbeaver> im trying to instal google earth and i have no clue how
[08:23] <Slartibartfast> Dbeaver: sudo apt-get install googleearth
[08:24] <Dbeaver> i have a google earth. bin file already form the site does that make a differance
[08:24] <yilan> hello
[08:25] <Slartibartfast> open a terminal and type: sh GoogleEarth.bin and follow the intructions
[08:25] <Dbeaver> k
[08:26] <Dbeaver> now the full name of the file is googleearthlinux.bin so should i type that in
[08:27] <Slartibartfast> yes ... when i download it it say GoogleEarthLinux.bin ...... the capitals should not be changed into non-capitals
[08:28] <shadeslayer1> !xtleds
[08:28] <shadeslayer1> !xtled
[08:28] <shadeslayer1> where can i find xtleds ??
[08:29] <shadeslayer1> theyre not in the standard repos
[08:30] <Dbeaver> so neither one of those things worked
[08:31] <Slartibartfast> No ? .... got an error message
[08:31] <Slartibartfast> ?
[08:31] <Dbeaver> yeah said it cant open it
[08:32] <Slartibartfast> did you type "sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin" ?
[08:32] <Dbeaver> wait i think i got it
[08:32] <Dbeaver> yay i did
[08:32] <Dbeaver> yeah i did
[08:32] <Dbeaver> that didnt work
[08:33] <Dbeaver> what i did was type sh the drageed the file onto my terminal
[08:33] <Dbeaver> and pasted the path
[08:33] <Dbeaver> now it works
[08:33] <tom76> anyone else new to this?
[08:33] <Dbeaver> im way new
[08:33] <Slartibartfast> well i just did the same ...... sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[08:33] <Dbeaver> my cousin gave me this computer
[08:33] <Slartibartfast> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[08:34] <Dbeaver> so i barley know anyhtign
[08:34] <Slartibartfast> ncompressing Google Earth for GNU/Linux 5.0.11337.1968.........
[08:34] <Dbeaver> thats what mine said
[08:34] <tom76> you installing apps?
[08:34] <Dbeaver> me?
[08:34] <Dbeaver> yeah
[08:34] <tom76> yep
[08:35] <Slartibartfast> then it pops up a QT installation window .....
[08:37] <Slartibartfast> and then i got an error about "version OPENSSL_0.9.8 not defined in file libcrypto.so.0.9.8 with link time reference" :-P
[08:38] <tom76> back - Dbeaver
[08:38] <Dbeaver> so when i try to open it isays my resoluton isnt high enough and then my computer resarts
[08:41] <Slartibartfast> and then i rename libcrypto.so.0.9.8 in the google directory into somthing else ..... and restart .
[08:42] <ak_venture> has anyone here installed ZNC on Ubuntu 8.04 before?
[08:43] <Dbeaver> slart are you having the same problem
[08:43] <ak_venture> Setting up libcrypto++-dev (5.5.2-1) ...
[08:43] <ak_venture> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[08:43] <ak_venture> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[08:44] <ak_venture> but then...
[08:44] <ak_venture> when i run
[08:44] <ak_venture>  ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-openssl
[08:44] <ak_venture> i get
[08:44] <ak_venture> checking for BIO_new in -lcrypto... no
[08:44] <ak_venture> configure: error: Could not find libcrypto. Try --disable-openssl
[08:44] <Slartibartfast> Dbeaver no problem here on my 17"" screen with 1280x1024 resolution
[08:45] <Dbeaver> lol im on a projector
[08:45] <ak_venture> --prefix=/usr/local is my problem isn't it...
[08:45] <Slartibartfast> :-P but even on a projector you can have 800x600
[08:45] <ak_venture> 72" inch plasma
[08:46] <ak_venture> j/k 13.5" laptop
[08:46] <Dbeaver> lol
[08:46] <Dbeaver> how can i change my resolutuion
[08:47] <Dbeaver> ima gonna try and open it again so if i get loged out you know what happend
[08:47] <Slartibartfast> OK :-)
[08:47] <ak_venture> so if a readme has:
[08:47] <ak_venture> ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-openssl
[08:48] <ak_venture> as a terminal step...
[08:48] <Dbeaver> before i click ok it says i gotta have atleast1024x768
[08:48] <ak_venture> how should you modify it?
[08:49] <Dbeaver> damn
[08:49] <Slartibartfast> somewhere in Kmenu > System > Screen Resize
[08:49] <Dbeaver> so google earth starts to open than the screen goes black
[08:52] <Dbeaver> any one have any ideas for me
[08:53] <Slartibartfast> mmm sorry don't know
[08:56] <Dbeaver> ugh my adept manager is messed uo
[08:56] <Dbeaver> up
[08:56] <bazhang> Dbeaver, what error message
[08:57] <Dbeaver> its aying it can commit changes
[08:57] <bazhang> can't?
[08:57] <Dbeaver> cant
[08:57] <Dbeaver> sorry
[08:57] <bazhang> do you have more than one process running?
[08:57] <Dbeaver> its been acting funny for a while
[08:58] <Dbeaver> yeah
[08:58] <Dbeaver> just one adept
[08:58] <bazhang> of apt?
[08:58] <Dbeaver> no
[08:58] <Dbeaver> atleast i dont ting
[08:58] <Dbeaver> think
[08:58] <bazhang> the exact error message please; if more then one line paste.ubuntu.com
[08:59] <Dbeaver> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[08:59] <bazhang> Dbeaver, this was doing what? ie what gave that error message
[09:00] <Dbeaver> anytime i try to use the manager to instal anyhting
[09:00] <bazhang> !aptfix
[09:02] <Dbeaver> so i just copy and paste that in a terminal
[09:03] <bazhang> yep
[09:03] <Dbeaver> same thing happens
[09:03] <bazhang> Dbeaver, you did both commands?
[09:03] <bazhang> Dbeaver, that was awfully fast
[09:04] <Dbeaver> wait what do you mean both
[09:04] <bazhang> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:04] <bazhang> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:05] <Dbeaver> same thing
[09:06] <bazhang> Dbeaver, please paste.ubuntu.com with /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:06] <Dbeaver> i dont understand
[09:06] <Dbeaver> you want me to gothere
[09:07] <bazhang> Dbeaver, type this in konsole: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:07] <bazhang> Dbeaver, then open a browser and type paste.ubuntu.com
[09:07] <bazhang> Dbeaver, copy the first to the second, then save and give us the url
[09:09] <Dbeaver> k i did
[09:10] <bazhang> we need the url
[09:10] <chaoslang> helllo  everybody
[09:10] <Dbeaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/123707/
[09:10] <bazhang> hi
[09:10] <chaoslang> what?
[09:11] <Dbeaver> whats happinin chaos
[09:11] <bazhang> Dbeaver, this is hardy, correct?
[09:11] <Dbeaver> what
[09:12] <chaoslang> nothing . this is my first time coming here!
[09:12] <bazhang> Dbeaver, the version of kubuntu you are using
[09:12] <Dbeaver> i have no clue
[09:12] <Dbeaver> my cousin set this up for me
[09:13] <Dbeaver> ive never used linux
[09:13] <SlimeyPete> Dbeaver: do you know how to open a terminal?
[09:13] <bazhang> Dbeaver, in konsole type: lsb_release -a
[09:13] <Dbeaver> yes
[09:13] <SlimeyPete> okay, open a terminal and type what bazhang said :)
[09:13] <SlimeyPete> it will tell you which version of kubuntu you are using
[09:14] <neofox> hi i have a problem! i have vista on the HDD and have now kubuntu install on a pation und the bootloader have not vista how can a gat vista on the bootloader? sorry for my bad englisch
[09:14] <Dbeaver> it said hardy at the end
[09:15] <Dbeaver> 8.04
[09:15] <bazhang> neofox, fix grub
[09:15] <bazhang> !grub | neofox
[09:15] <bazhang> neofox, vista second?
[09:16] <bazhang> Dbeaver, in konsole type : sudo apt-get update
[09:16] <neofox> no vista ist first
[09:16] <bazhang> neofox, that is odd; did you choose correctly when installing to partition? manual or guided?
[09:17] <neofox> manuel
[09:18] <bazhang> neofox, and you installed to the correct partition?
[09:18] <Dbeaver> ok i did that now what
[09:18] <bazhang> Dbeaver, what errors if any
[09:18] <Dbeaver> erorrs with what
[09:19] <neofox> yas a use linux moment but viste will not
[09:19] <neofox> start
[09:19] <bazhang> the command you ran in konsole: sudo apt-get update Dbeaver
[09:19] <Dbeaver> no errors
[09:20] <Dbeaver> but adept still doesnt work
[09:20] <bazhang> Dbeaver, now : sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:20] <bazhang> Dbeaver, forget about adept for the moment
[09:21] <Dbeaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/123709/
[09:22] <Dbeaver> thats what it said
[09:22] <bazhang> Dbeaver, now: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:24] <liquidat> Hi there - after an update yesterday I restarted my machine today, and dolphin freezes for seconds as soon as I click (not start) on a pdf. In the background, pdftotext spikes and eats my cpu. Has anyone seen that yet?
[09:25] <Dbeaver> ok now im to this screen http://paste.ubuntu.com/123710/
[09:25] <bazhang> Dbeaver, hit tab then enter
[09:27] <Dbeaver> k its done now what
[09:28] <bazhang> try the two commands I gave you earlier: sudo apt-get update
[09:28] <bazhang> sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:30] <Dbeaver> k ts running
[09:30] <Dbeaver> hey is any one near dallas
[09:32] <bazhang> #ubuntu-dallas
[09:32] <Dbeaver> ?
[09:32] <bazhang> type /join #ubuntu-dallas
[09:33] <bazhang> everyone will be from dallas then :)
[09:33] <Dbeaver> very cool
[09:33] <Dbeaver> and thansk again for being so helpful
[09:33] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[09:34] <bazhang> from there ^^
[09:36] <bazhang> Dbeaver, the konsole is easier to be honest
[09:36] <Dbeaver> what?
[09:37] <bazhang> Dbeaver, sudo apt-get install packagename
[09:37] <bazhang> Dbeaver, or to search: apt-cache search package/related term
[09:37] <Dbeaver> oh for instaling
[09:38] <bazhang> searching installing pretty much everything
[09:38] <bazhang> ie sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble
[09:38] <Dbeaver> whats that?
[09:39] <bazhang> !info frozen-bubble
[09:39] <bazhang> a very fun game
[09:40] <Dbeaver> ugh no one is in the dallas or az room
[09:42] <bazhang> not no one but pretty empty
[09:43] <Dbeaver> lol no one is talking
[09:43] <bazhang> you need to start the convo :)
[09:43] <Dbeaver> i tried
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> !hostname
[09:49] <misafir> selamünalaleyküm
[09:49] <misafir> hayırlı cumalar
[09:50] <bazhang> misafir, indonesia?
[09:51] <misafir> I m turkish
[09:51] <bazhang> !tr
[09:51] <bazhang> misafir, /join #ubuntu-tr
[09:51] <misafir> thanks
[09:52] <bazhang> np
[09:52] <Dbeaver> so baz where you from
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Dbeaver: resolve his/her ip to a country ;)
[09:53] <Dbeaver> ???????
[09:54] <bazhang> get past my cloak first :)
[09:54] <Dbeaver> lol
[09:54] <bazhang> !cloak
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> haha tinfoil hat time
[09:54] <bazhang> hehe
[09:55] <bazhang> Dbeaver, you can get one too :)
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> unfortunately the cloak wont hide direct file transfer ips
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> so :P
[09:56] <Dbeaver> lol why exactly would i need one
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> no idea
[09:57] <Dbeaver> so this brings me back to my question where yall from
[09:57] <bazhang> !ot
[09:58] <Dbeaver> lol ok
[09:58] <bazhang> :)
[10:00] <Dbeaver> so my update is done
[10:00] <bazhang> nice
[10:00] <bazhang> adept should work now as well
[10:01] <bazhang> just dont try to install via konsole when it is running or vice versa :)
[10:02] <Dbeaver> right on
[10:02] <Dbeaver> it works
[10:02] <bazhang> k
[10:04] <Dbeaver> so i tried to open google earth again lol
[10:04] <bazhang> installed from google or medibuntu
[10:04] <bazhang> !googleearth
[10:05] <Dbeaver> i downloaded it form google
[10:06] <bazhang> and it was a deb? or a tar.gz
[10:06] <Dbeaver> what lol
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Dbeaver: you can get googleearth from repos
[10:07] <bazhang> how did you install it Dbeaver
[10:07] <Dbeaver> through knosol
[10:08] <Dbeaver> konsole
[10:08] <bazhang> Dbeaver, what command? sudo dpkg -i googlearth.deb ?
[10:09] <Dbeaver> no
[10:09] <Slartibartfast> people can download googleearth 5.0.xxxxx beta from google ... which has some nice features
[10:09] <Dbeaver> sh then the path
[10:09] <bazhang> ah a bin file
[10:09] <Dbeaver> yeah
[10:10] <bazhang> and it comes up black screen?
[10:10] <Dbeaver> i installed it then when i click the google thing it acts like its opening
[10:10] <Dbeaver> then blank
[10:10] <Dbeaver> then restart
[10:11] <bazhang> how much ram, what video card, what drivers and how installed
[10:11] <Dbeaver> lol i dono
[10:12] <Dbeaver> should i uninstal it
[10:13] <bazhang> did you check in hardware drivers/restricted drivers to see what drivers you are using
[10:13] <Dbeaver> no
[10:13] <Dbeaver> how
[10:14] <bazhang> let me check the hardy wiki :)
[10:14] <bazhang> been a long time since I used kubuntu 8.04
[10:15] <bazhang> http://www.kubuntuguide.org/Hardy
[10:19] <bazhang> if you look in the kmenu, there should be a listing for restricted drivers, cant remember which folder, peek in a few
[10:23] <Slartibartfast> Dbeaver: otherwise open the konsole again and type: glxinfo |grep direct
[10:23] <Dbeaver> where do i go?
[10:24] <Slartibartfast> if yes, there is a restricted driver
[10:24] <Dbeaver> it says no
[10:25] <Slartibartfast> then need to get the restricted driver installed ...
[10:26] <Slartibartfast> in the kmenu > system > hardware drivers ..... or something like that
[10:26] <bazhang> restricted drivers in hardy iirc
[10:27] <Dbeaver> it said there was this nvida
[10:27] <Dbeaver> that was not enabled and not inuse
[10:28] <Slartibartfast> So enable it ... probably after that need to restart the computer
[10:28] <bazhang> enable it, then also install nvidia-settings
[10:28] <Dbeaver> k ill be bacl
[10:31]  * Slartibartfast is getting some food
[10:32] <Dbeaver> so everyhtign is all big now
[10:32] <bazhang> now run nvidia-settings once you have it installed
[10:33] <marek__> hi i have a problem with grub - i have kubuntu on one partition and XP on second, but i dont see winXP option in grub, how can i add it?
[10:33] <bazhang> marek__, xp installed 2nd?
[10:34] <marek__> bazhang no, as first
[10:35] <bazhang> marek__, and when installing kubuntu, it did not properly set up grub?
[10:35] <marek__> bazhang yup,
[10:35] <Dbeaver> how do i get to the settings
[10:35] <marek__> but i think it was my fault
[10:35] <marek__> Dbeaver kde4 or kde3?
[10:35] <bazhang> marek__, you used the guided install or manual
[10:35] <marek__> bazhang it was alternate cd
[10:35] <bazhang> Dbeaver, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[10:36] <marek__> i partitioned manually
[10:36] <bazhang> marek__, how so your fault?
[10:36] <marek__> :/
[10:37] <bazhang> marek__, is the xp partition still there?
[10:37] <bazhang> or do you just need to fix grub
[10:37] <bazhang> !grub
[10:38] <Dbeaver> ok i did that now what
[10:38] <bazhang> Dbeaver, installed it or ran it
[10:38] <Dbeaver> it installed it im pretty sure
[10:39] <bazhang> should be in kmenu then
[10:39] <marek__> bazhang i can see grub, problem is that i cannot boot into winXP from grub, partition is still there
[10:39] <marek__> on sda2
[10:39] <bazhang> I'm on intrepid so not sure where that is in hardy
[10:41] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub marek__ this link may be of some use
[10:43] <Dbeaver> everythign is too big
[10:43] <Dbeaver> like i cant move stuff around
[10:44] <bazhang> thus the need to run nvidia-settings
[10:44] <bazhang> alt and mouse grab to move
[10:45] <Dbeaver> where do i go
[10:45] <bazhang> Dbeaver, can you log in? and do you see the kmenu?
[10:46] <Dbeaver> yeah im in the settings thing all ready
[10:46] <bazhang> and what options are offered in terms of resolution?
[10:46] <Dbeaver> 640x480
[10:47] <Dbeaver> and 320x240
[10:47] <Dbeaver> and auto
[10:47] <timjj> im using KUbuntu 8.04...my mic is not working..ive played a lot with kmix settings..but still mic doesnt work
[10:47] <timjj> sound works
[10:47] <timjj> but mic doesnt
[10:48] <timjj> is this some driver issue ?
[10:48] <Dbeaver> and it wont let me take it out of use on that hardware thing
[10:49] <bazhang> Dbeaver, and the drivers are now shown to be enabled and in use?
[10:49] <Dbeaver> yes
[10:49] <Dbeaver> when i try to turn off the nvida
[10:49] <Dbeaver> this message ops up
[10:50] <Dbeaver> and it like runs off the screen
[10:50] <timjj> when i do lspci|grep Audio, i get : 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[10:50] <Dbeaver> so i dont know exactly what the end of it says
[10:50] <bazhang> !hdaintel
[10:50] <timjj> ubottu: sound is working, only mic doesnt capture anything..will that page still help ?
[10:51] <bazhang> Dbeaver, try alt and left click to grab and move so you can read it
[10:52] <Dbeaver> it wont let me
[10:52] <Dbeaver> when the top hits the top of the screen it stops
[10:52] <amerigo> heilà kubunters....
[10:53] <Dbeaver> uigh now im pissed
[10:54] <amerigo> I'd like to know if is possible to set several login user and have for each one different language setting.... such as an user in Italian, an user in french, an user in arabic... etc etc ...
[10:55] <bazhang> Dbeaver, then perhaps better to take a break
[10:56] <Dbeaver> true ima have a smoke
[10:56] <bazhang> you already learned how to fix  a lot  today :)
[11:00] <Dbeaver> lol but i kinda made it wors
[11:00] <Dbeaver> worse
[11:00] <bazhang> not really
[11:00] <cheku> #ubuntu
[11:01] <Dbeaver> i need it smaller
[11:01] <bazhang> just need to get those drivers configured and you'll be good to go
[11:01] <Dbeaver> lol what shoul i do all the resolution settings dont do anyhting for me
[11:02] <Dbeaver> and google erth tries to run
[11:02] <Dbeaver> but the just quits
[11:03] <bazhang> Dbeaver, in konsole type lspci and see which exact nvidia card you have
[11:05] <Dbeaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/123727/
[11:06] <bazhang> the geforce 6100
[11:06] <Dbeaver> now what lol
[11:08] <bazhang> just want to be sure you have the drivers installed; when you launched nvidia-settings did it prompt for a password, and if not, are any of the options grayed out?
[11:09] <Dbeaver> no on both
[11:09] <bazhang> hmm
[11:10] <bazhang> !info nvidia-xconfig hardy
[11:10] <Dbeaver> i went to nivida x server settings
[11:10] <bazhang> nvidia-settings is what you installed, correct?
[11:10] <Dbeaver> i believe so
[11:11] <bazhang> lets quit that and try with nvidia-xconfig
[11:11] <Dbeaver> k what do i do
[11:11] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[11:12] <skarn> spellcheck not working in intrepid
[11:12] <bazhang> in what app
[11:12] <skarn> kde apps
[11:12] <skarn> kopete kmail konqueror
[11:12] <bazhang> not here
[11:13] <skarn> i come from opensuse
[11:13] <skarn> probably it's some config
[11:13] <bazhang> yep
[11:13] <Dbeaver> k i did that now what
[11:13] <bazhang> Dbeaver, its installed? then run it
[11:14] <skarn> sorry, my mistake
[11:14] <Tinason> is there a way to upgrade my kubuntu to jackalope a5?
[11:14] <skarn> spellchecking works
[11:14] <skarn> it just doesn't spellcheck during tiping
[11:14] <bazhang> maybe need to kdesu nvidia-xconfig
[11:14] <bazhang> Tinason, #ubuntu+1 for that
[11:14] <Tinason> thankx
[11:14] <bazhang> np
[11:15] <altrortla> hello ... I want to install driver for my LAN printer... IT's a SAMSUNG ML-2850... I have download .TGZ archive but I don't know how to proceed... with ARC i've browsed that archive and all them start with a folder called cdroot. When a try to decompress files with ark in the same folder where i've download them... it gives me something like that "process not complete" ... and a list of several files ... like drwx-xr-x root/root 0
[11:15] <altrortla> 2007-02-13 08:16 cdroot/ .... at the end of this list appears gzip: stdin: decompression OK trailing garbage ignored ... tar: child returned status 2.... tar: Exit for error to be late from previous error...  WHAT appens? what should i do?
[11:15] <Dbeaver> where would it be
[11:15] <altrortla> Thanslation is fro italan
[11:15] <altrortla> sorry for mistaken
[11:15] <bazhang> Dbeaver, try alt f2
[11:16] <Dbeaver> and type what
[11:17] <bazhang> kdesu nvidia-xconfig
[11:19] <Dbeaver> nothin happens
[11:22] <arshad> HI I have a prob with Ubuntu 8.10
[11:22] <arshad> Help PLzzzz
[11:22] <bazhang> ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:23] <arshad> Ubuntu 8.10
[11:23] <bazhang> wrong channel though you can ask if you wish :)
[11:24] <Dbeaver> ugh im extra pissex
[11:25] <arshad> where can i find the right source than
[11:25] <arshad> ??
[11:25] <Dbeaver> i would rather take that driver off
[11:25] <Dbeaver> is there a command to do so
[11:25] <Dbeaver> for konsole
[11:25] <arshad> . . . . . . when the system is locked and left for an hour or so it restarts automatically
[11:25] <bazhang> Dbeaver, sure; though adept will be easier in this case
[11:25] <arshad> ??
[11:26] <bazhang> Dbeaver, you would search for nvidia and uninstall the one it has marked as 'installed'
[11:28] <arshad> Any suggestions plzz . . . . . . when the system is locked and left for an hour or so it restarts automatically
[11:28] <bazhang> arshad, system is locked? could you elaborate please?
[11:29] <Dbeaver> k only thins that came up were those two setting things
[11:29] <bazhang> Dbeaver, as an option you may wish to run the following command to tweak resolution
[11:29] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:30] <altrortla> !printer
[11:30] <altrortla> !info printer lan
[11:31] <Dbeaver> now what
[11:31] <altrortla> !info printer
[11:31] <bazhang> !cups
[11:31] <altrortla> !samsung
[11:32] <bazhang> Dbeaver, could you paste.ubuntu.com with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:32] <arshad__>       <bazhang>    I mean when i lock the screen, through the option avaliable with logout, suspend ,HIbernate, reatart,...
[11:33] <bazhang> arshad__, only when you lock the screen?
[11:34] <Dbeaver> what do you want me to paste
[11:35] <bazhang> Dbeaver, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:35] <Dbeaver> type that in konsole
[11:35] <bazhang> yep
[11:36] <Dbeaver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/123746/
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[11:40] <bazhang> arshad__, I would seriously advise you to /join #ubuntu for help with that
[11:41] <bazhang> Dbeaver, I would go ahead and disable those drivers, then a restart may be required; I have to take a break for dinner here though :)
[11:42] <Dbeaver> how do i disable
[11:42] <bazhang> in the restricted drivers manager
[11:42] <Dbeaver> k ill try
[11:42] <Dbeaver> talk to ya later
[11:43] <bazhang> :)
[11:43] <koperton> Dbeaver: jockey-kde
[11:43] <koperton> it should be the drivers manager
[11:43] <koperton> of couse you have to use kdesudo
[11:47] <cfenix> hello!
[11:47] <cfenix> who can help me?
[11:47] <cfenix> please!, i need help i new in kubuntu..
[11:48] <bazhang> !ask
[11:49] <cfenix> sorry i'm new for IRC channels too, well, how i can change the resolution on kubuntu?
[11:50] <bazhang> !fixres | cfenix
[11:51] <koperton> mmm i have an intel 945gm and i have S-video output but ... how could i set it ?
[11:52] <TheWoozle> Is there any way to minimize the KDEtwitter applet if it covers up the system tray?
[11:52] <koperton> you can't move it?
[11:52] <cfenix> i think, it is problem of my video card, cuz i just install kubuntu, and i didn't config. nothing yet
[11:52] <TheWoozle> No... that should be fixed, too.
[11:53] <TheWoozle> (running ku9 alpha 4)
[11:54] <cfenix> how i can config my video card?
[11:54] <koperton> TheWoozle: here is not the right place
[11:54] <TheWoozle> Is there a chan for ku9?
[11:54] <koperton> alpha is not supported here
[11:54] <TheWoozle> I guessed as much.
[11:54] <koperton> i think #kubuntu+1
[12:00] <Slartibartfast> cfenix as described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[12:07] <cuznt> suddenly my flash has stopped working
[12:10] <Wazmyn> cuznt: i had the same problem yesterday after the upgrade
[12:11] <cuznt> ay idea?
[12:11] <Wazmyn> cuznt: you need to do a complete removal (I suggest using synaptic) and then re-install it
[12:11] <cuznt> right on
[12:11] <cuznt> ty
[12:11] <Wazmyn> Sure
[12:24] <Laeborg> is there anything like SAM Broadcaster/Virtual DJ for linux ?
[12:37] <lab> female where are you
[12:37] <lab> :)
[12:37] <skarn> in kubuntu intrepid, with automatic spellchecking enabled, wrongly spelled words don't get hilighted.
[12:53] <mola0> hello
[13:17] <ShakaGoldSaint> hi there, i just downloaded jaunty alpha 5 iso and it's giving me the "Invalid CD detected", md5sums are fine though. Does anyone know what else might be causing this issue?, i'm using magicdisc to mount the iso file
[13:21] <koperton> ShakaGoldSaint: you could re-download
[13:21] <koperton> ShakaGoldSaint: or try to use usb flash card , if you have one big,
[13:23] <compilerwriter> Anyone here playing with Jaunty?
[13:26] <ShakaGoldSaint> koperton, since md5sums matches i see no point in downloading again, but yeah that's always an option. Unfortunately i don't have big enough flash card around... and of course no cdrs either xD
[13:26] <ShakaGoldSaint> compilerwriter, i wish i could :(
[13:27] <koperton> ShakaGoldSaint: mm i have installed my debian with a zen creative mini xD
[13:27] <koperton> an mp3 \ usb storage device no cd
[13:27] <koperton> bah with 20 bucks you can get one flash storage device
[13:28] <koperton> what's the point
[13:28] <ShakaGoldSaint> koperton, all I have is a 256MB usb flash drive around
[13:28] <koperton> if your bios supports usb booting you can buy one you will spend less money with an usb flash card xD expecially if you test a lots of distro
[13:30] <koperton> i leave
[13:30] <koperton> bye bye
[13:30] <ShakaGoldSaint> see ya! thanks for the tips
[13:30] <compilerwriter> What is stoping you shakagoldsaint?
[13:31] <ShakaGoldSaint> the fact that i have no cdrs and no big enough usb drive to try it, wubi is giving me some troubles
[13:32] <compilerwriter> Where are you in the world shakagoldsaint?
[13:32] <ShakaGoldSaint> barquisimeto, venezuela
[13:32] <ShakaGoldSaint> ok ok, i'm just lazy ¬¬
[13:32] <compilerwriter> ooh It would take an act of Congress for me to help youout then.
[13:33] <ShakaGoldSaint> say what?
[13:34] <compilerwriter> If you were here in the US I could burn you a copy and fire it off to you for a buck or two, but to get it to you in Venezuela would be another story.  Getting it past customs would be a royal pain not to mention the time it would take to get to you.
[13:36] <Slartibartfast> ShakaGoldSaint, what you need ? :-)
[13:38] <Slartibartfast> if it is a (k)ubuntu cd, there is a shipit service which sends cd's all over the world ... for free
[13:41] <ShakaGoldSaint_> compilerwriter, yeah well the point here is that i'm just lazy and wanted to try jaunty right now :P, i'll buy cdrs tomorrow
[13:41] <ShakaGoldSaint_> i really really want to try kde 4.2 :D
[13:42] <compilerwriter> You can try 4.2 without using Jaunty.  I am running 4.2 with Ibex now.
[13:44] <joey__> New to linux does someone no what i need to do to update from Jaunty alpha 4 to alpha 5 ?
[13:45] <Slartibartfast> :-) hehehe ... new and then running a development version? :-) ... you are asking for problems
[13:46] <joey__> I no but i love to lean and I do a lot of beta testing on Mac as well as windows
[13:46] <Slartibartfast> just keep doing "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[13:46] <Slartibartfast> your system gets newer and newer
[13:47] <ShakaGoldSaint_> but that's nasty xD... just kidding
[13:48] <Slartibartfast> ShakaGoldSaint_: who are you talking to :-)
[13:48] <Slartibartfast> ?
[13:48] <ShakaGoldSaint_> you, the apt-get-upgrader guy
[13:48] <Slartibartfast> heheeh .... it's just how it goes
[13:49] <joey__> Thank you and that was what I been doing was just checking to make sure i was doing it right.
[13:49] <Slartibartfast> yes ... sometimes have a lot of updates ... but with a good inet connection thats no problem
[13:50] <ShakaGoldSaint_> joey__, i believe you have to do nothing but keeping your installation updated
[13:51] <ShakaGoldSaint_> joey__, no need to add repos or anythings like that to be on alpha5
[13:51] <joey__> thats what i thought but was not sure. kewl thanks
[13:51] <Slartibartfast> joey__: if you do this in a terminal, you sometimes see there are packages kept back ... this is sometimes because there are some other dependencies ... to also get those newer version you can do an apt-get dist-upgrade instead of apt-get update
[13:52] <White_Pelican> are there any programs out there for kubuntu, or Linux for that matter that can open Microsoft reader (.lit) files?
[13:52] <joey__> k wrote that down too
[13:52] <Slartibartfast> * instead of apt-get upgrade :-)
[13:54] <a> hello all, who can  tell me how 2 use secondlife ? It doesn't work soemtimes
[13:55] <Slartibartfast> White_Pelican: maybe this URL is helpful for you: http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com/2007/02/converting-lit-files-in-ubuntu.html
[13:56] <White_Pelican> ty
[13:59] <basy> how to setup more mouse buttons ?
[13:59] <basy> i have mouse vith 7 buttons
[14:03] <White_Pelican> Slartibartfast, it helped find me a converter program, but I would love to find a reader program. Is there such an animal?
[14:07] <Slartibartfast> White_Pelican: well the format of the files are proprietary formats ..... so a reader should have a license and i think there is no such free program which has a license for importing these files
[14:08] <White_Pelican> bummer
[14:08] <Slartibartfast> can try to convert them into a free format
[14:08] <Slartibartfast> then you can use them in windows and in other more free software
[14:11] <White_Pelican> wonder if I should install Windows through Virtual Box and install Windows Ebook reader or find a converter program in Windows
[14:13] <Slartibartfast> But if you're going to convert, can't you do that in linux ? ...
[14:17] <Slartibartfast> in this URL http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49232 somebody already has compiled the program ... if you trust it you can try if it works for you
[14:21] <silentstri> whats the command to update from dapper to hardy?
[14:21] <silentstri> sudo apt-get ________________ or something right?
[14:22] <silentstri> anyone?
[14:22] <JohnFlux> silentstri: google's first link on this is http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/04/03/dapper-to-hardy-direct-server-upgrade-works/
[14:23] <silentstri> kk ty
[14:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> Howwwwwdy ho!
[14:27] <bobe> hallo
[14:28] <silentstri> update_manager_01.png
[14:29] <silentstri> Click the Check button to check for new updates.
[14:29] <silentstri> A message will appear informing you of the availability of the new release.
[14:29] <silentstri> update-manager-upgrade-804.png
[14:29] <silentstri> Click Upgrade.
[14:29] <silentstri> Follow the on-screen instructions.
[14:29] <silentstri> Network Upgrade for Kubuntu Desktops (Recommended)
[14:29] <silentstri> To upgrade from Kubuntu 6.06 to 8.04 over the Internet you can use a special mode in the server upgrade system.
[14:29] <silentstri> Enable the "dapper-updates" repository.
[14:29] <silentstri> Install the new "update-manager-core
[14:29] <silentstri> uhhhhm
[14:29] <silentstri> i didnt type that.....
[14:29] <silentstri> ????????
[14:30] <silentstri> anyways, what do I do if I cant find the update manager core?
[14:30] <altrortla> oh buddy... is impossible
[14:31] <altrortla> i have just installed unifiedlinuxdriver for my printer ... it seems to work but configuration form have line text so little that i can't read nothing of what is written...
[14:32] <altrortla> i can't see nothing... i've just tried to set a configuration for the screen more little... but the result is the same
[14:32] <altrortla> uff
[14:33] <altrortla> any tips
[14:33] <altrortla> ?
[14:34] <silentstri> how do I install the update manager core when I cant find it with apt-cache search ???
[14:35] <bazhang> silentstri, what are you trying to achieve?
[14:35] <silentstri> update from dapper to hardy
[14:35] <bazhang> silentstri, to go from  lts to lts?
[14:35] <silentstri> is hardy lts?
[14:35] <bazhang> yep
[14:36] <silentstri> then yep :P
[14:36] <bazhang> did you enable the dapper new repo?
[14:36] <bazhang> then sudo apt-get update?
[14:36] <silentstri> i believe so
[14:36] <silentstri> ubn .list?
[14:36] <bazhang> make sure you updated after adding that repo :)
[14:37] <silentstri> how i do?
[14:37] <bazhang> should be in /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:37] <silentstri> kk
[14:37] <silentstri> brb
[14:37] <bazhang> if you wish to paste.ubuntu.com then we can look at it
[14:38] <silentstri> i already enabled the .list in there
[14:38] <bazhang> cat /etc/apt/sources.list -->paste.ubuntu.com
[14:39] <silentstri> kk
[14:41] <altrortla> #ubuntu
[14:42] <silentstri> http://paste.ubuntu.com/123833/
[14:43] <bazhang> silentstri, line 9 needs to have the # removed
[14:43] <silentstri> o ok
[14:45] <bazhang> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:45] <silentstri> kk
[14:45] <silentstri> done
[14:45] <gp> ciao a tutti, anche io avrei un problema con konversation
[14:46] <BentFranklin> Instead of "sudo chmod +w foo/*" I accidentally typed "sudo chmod +w foo /*".  Here is what my root dir looks like now http://paste.ubuntu.com/123834/.  Oddly it doesn't appear to have done anything.  Did I do any damage to my perms?  If not, why not?
[14:46] <bazhang> silentstri, now save, close and sudo apt-get update
[14:46] <bazhang> !it
[14:47] <silentstri> awesome u rule bazhang
[14:47] <gp> ok thanks
[14:47] <bazhang> silentstri, you fixed it?
[14:47] <bazhang> silentstri, its going to be a big update/upgrade :)
[14:48] <silentstri> its done
[14:48] <silentstri> ._.
[14:48] <bazhang> !info update-manager-core dapper
[14:49] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[14:50] <silentstri> wow ty been tryin to get that to work for ages :D
[14:50] <silentstri> tyvm
[14:51] <bazhang> np :)
[14:52] <silentstri> uhm
[14:52] <silentstri> it stopped
[14:52] <silentstri> it said setting up update-manager-core then it stopped
[14:54] <silentstri> kk got it working nvm
[14:54] <silentstri> thanks for everything baz
[14:54] <silentstri> oh ya why ur name purple?
[15:03] <BentFranklin> Instead of "sudo chmod +w foo/*" I accidentally typed "sudo chmod +w foo /*".  Here is what my root dir looks like now http://paste.ubuntu.com/123834/.  Oddly it doesn't appear to have done anything.  Did I do any damage to my perms?  If not, why not?  Could someone paste what their root perms look like?
[15:08] <roberto_> join #kubuntu.it
[15:14] <musical> hi folks
[15:15] <musical> you know...I cant get google earth to work (intrepid, kde 4.2)
[15:15] <SlimeyPete> there's a fix for it. You have to symlink a file.
[15:16] <musical> where do I find it?
[15:16] <SlimeyPete> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1065536
[15:16] <musical> thanks
[15:16] <SlimeyPete> that's a slightly different solution to the one I used but the principle's the same.
[15:20] <nasir29> Hello
[15:21] <nasir29> anybody using kubuntu here?
[15:21] <SlimeyPete> I used to, and I'm planning on doing so again in the future
[15:21] <SlimeyPete> as soon as KDE4 stops being such a mess
[15:22] <nasir29> I just try it right now. look a bit messy compare to ubuntu
[15:23] <venik> Is there a way to save the dolphin window settings, so it always opens the way I want it, and not in a tiny window?
[15:23] <SlimeyPete> nasir29: Kubuntu 8.04 was smart & clean
[15:23] <SlimeyPete> and worked well
[15:24] <SlimeyPete> and is still very usable, really.
[15:24] <nasir29> I'm using Kubuntu 8.10 now.
[15:24] <musical> so am I - minor problems only
[15:24] <musical> I like it
[15:24] <bazhang> kde4 seems solid here
[15:24] <nasir29> Okey, it's pretty nice in graphic anyway
[15:25] <nasir29> I use to work with "sudo" command all the times but a bit messy with Kubuntu
[15:26] <bazhang> how so
[15:26] <SlimeyPete> I don't hate it, but for a start it doesn't work with my dual-monitor setup
[15:26] <bazhang> !kdesudo
[15:27] <nasir29> Okey thanks bahzang , ubottu...many,many thanks
[15:27] <bazhang> sudo is find though 90% plus of the time
[15:27] <bazhang> err fine
[15:28] <bazhang> no real difference if you use the konsole :)
[15:28] <nasir29> could we do animated pop up like compiz in kubuntu?
[15:29] <venik> KDE 4.2 is much less responsive than the old 3.5 was, at least on my graphics card/driver (nvidia 180.11)
[15:29] <bazhang> you can get compiz on there sure
[15:29] <nasir29> sorry for silly question because I'm totally new in kubuntu
[15:29] <bazhang> !ccsm
[15:29] <bazhang> kubuntuguide.org is good as well
[15:30] <nasir29> okey thanks ubottu
[15:30] <bazhang> though with the effects built into kde4 its a bit of an overkill :)
[15:30] <bazhang> nasir29, she's a bot :)
[15:30] <bazhang> !ubottu
[15:30] <cuznt> !botsnack
[15:31] <nasir29> ok... you guys so cool ....
[15:32] <bazhang> nasir29, there are no silly questions :)
[15:32] <bazhang> nasir29, we all began with zero knowledge of ubuntu/kubuntu
[15:33] <nasir29> thanks bazhang for this motivation
[15:33] <bazhang> nasir29, new install?
[15:34] <nasir29> Yup, 2 hours ago
[15:34] <bazhang> you probably want to install kubuntu-restricted-extras then
[15:34] <Authority> is there a 'pick the fastest mirror' helper for apt/kubuntu repos?
[15:35] <nasir29> now is dowloading update using "Adept"
[15:35] <bazhang> Authority, in adept?
[15:35] <nasir29> Do you think kubuntu is better than OSX?
[15:36] <bazhang> Authority, or synaptic running with kubuntu
[15:36] <Authority> bazhang: sure, apt, adept, aptitude, whatever
[15:36] <bazhang> Authority, well it would be in the front end ie adept/synaptic etc
[15:37] <nasir29> Basically, after fresh installation, some update is required technically
[15:37] <firewire> how do i determine what graphics csrd i have installed?
[15:37] <Authority> bazhang: it would be or it is?  i don't use the GUI tools much
[15:37] <bazhang> firewire, lspci in konsole should list it
[15:37] <firewire> is there a cmd i can run in terminal?
[15:37] <firewire> thank you
[15:38] <Slartibartfast> firewire: lspci will show it
[15:38] <bazhang> Authority, I can check adept if you wish; I would use synaptic were I to use gui (gnome/kde/lxde here)
[15:39] <bazhang> or perhaps that is in add/remove
[15:39] <BentFranklin> Kubuntu 8.10 here.  How can I check what are the proper default permissions for files in the root directory?
[15:39] <bobbob1016> I'm trying kde4 again.  My bottom panel crashed, and after logging out and back in, it won't start up again.  I read on the forums that removing all the settings in /usr/share/kde4/config/plasma*, and still nothing.  I saw it just now when I booted up, but it went away.  Any ideas?
[15:40] <Authority> bazhang: naw, thanks for the offer.  I'll just do some more poking around
[15:40] <nasir29> bazhang, could we setup our broadband connection using terminal command?
[15:41] <bazhang> nasir29, via router, or directly to adsl modem
[15:41] <nasir29> adsl modem
[15:41] <firewire> are there any tools that will detect and install my graphics card drivers for me?
[15:42] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE nasir29 that may have info
[15:42] <nasir29> ok thanks
[15:42] <bazhang> np
[15:45] <nasir29> which is better , OSX or Kubuntu
[15:45] <bazhang> a bit offtopic for this channel :)
[15:45] <firewire> lol
[15:46] <bazhang> !ot
[15:46] <bobbob1016> Ok, I realized the problem was somehow auto-hide was on, and it went under compiz.  New question, how can I get the panel to be on top of everything, but below mplayer fullscreen windows?
[15:47] <nasir29> sorry, because I'm betting with my friend on this. She spend USD3,000 for a Mac Book Pro and I'm using cheap PC (less than USD 200)
[15:48] <bazhang> #kubuntu-offtopic nasir29 :)
[15:48] <nasir29> sorry then ...:)
[15:48] <cuznt> thats right,,,, if you have to ask... whats the point?   of course kubuntu is better
[15:48] <bazhang> ask in there :)
[15:49] <nasir29> ok cuznt, sorry,sorry,sorry ...:)
[15:49]  * cuznt was playin
[15:49] <cuznt> ;)
[15:49] <venik> Is there a way to edit the new K menu (or is it an appllication launcher?) in KDE 4.2?
[15:50] <cuznt> right click venik
[15:50] <cuznt> on the kmenu
[15:51] <venik> THis only allows me to switch to the old menu
[15:51] <venik> WHich was editable
[15:52] <nasir29> Finally, thanks to bazhang,ubottu,cuznt for advice and motivation. Time to sleeps now. I'm from Malaysia and really nice to meet you guys.Thanks again
[15:52] <firewire> anyone know if there are drivers for an old blade 3d card?
[15:52] <bazhang> bye nasir29
[15:52] <nasir29> bye,bye :)
[15:52] <bazhang> :)
[15:52] <cuznt> venik why not switch to the old menu and edit it
[15:52] <cuznt> ??
[15:53] <venik> Would that edit what appears on the new menu?
[15:53] <cuznt> i dont think so
[15:53] <venik> progress here is removing nice features of stable applications
[15:53] <cuznt> but if you dont like the new menu
[15:54] <venik> or rather, replacing the applications with new ones with fewer useful features
[15:54] <bazhang> this is 4.2 of experimental unsupported variety?
[15:54] <venik> see, for instance, the new System Settings
[15:54] <venik> I thought that 4.2 was officially released, but I have been wrong b4
[15:55] <bazhang> the one from backports or ppa?
[15:55] <venik> I think ppa, but this alphabet soup can get confusing for peasants like me
[15:55] <bazhang> officially released by kde, not made an official part of intrepid
[15:55] <bazhang> that is for next release jaunty
[15:56] <bazhang> thus the backports
[15:56] <venik> when is that coming?
[15:56] <musical> SlimeyPete: google earth 5 s working fine now! thanks!
[15:56] <bazhang> april this year
[15:56] <bazhang> 9.04
[16:13] <venik> can anyone tell me how to change the icon of a file on the desktop?  The instructions are outdated and do not work on KDE 4.2
[16:15] <Riesh> venik right click on the file, properties > click on the icon and change
[16:16] <venik> that does not work-- these are the old instructions referred to in my previous message
[16:16] <Slartibartfast> well here it works .... in kde 4.2
[16:17] <venik> hmmm... maybe it fails because I am in NYC?
[16:17] <venik> Kubuntu 8.10?
[16:17] <Slartibartfast> yes
[16:18] <venik> I must be missing a library or something-- here nothing happens when I do that, and it USED to work in much older Kubuntus
[16:18] <Slartibartfast> how does it fail? ... not possible to click the icon in the properties dialog?
[16:18] <venik> Of course it is possible-- I click but nothing happens
[16:18] <Slartibartfast> mmmm... strange
[16:18] <venik> let me try another machine
[16:20] <Slartibartfast> well it is all part of plasma workspace ...so there would the bug be
[16:20] <venik> does not work on another machine
[16:20] <venik> I am using 64 bit kubuntu, but on the other machine it is 32 bit, and no joy there either
[16:21] <venik> maybe I should reinstall plasma, if I knew how to do that
[16:21] <Slartibartfast> it just suddenly not working anymore ? ..... what did you do before?
[16:23] <Slartibartfast> see what you have installed with "dpkg -l *plasma*"
[16:23] <Slartibartfast> reinstall with "apt-get --reinstall xxxxx"
[16:23] <venik> it never worked in the new kubuntu/kde, but it did work on much older version-- maybe 7.04 or so
[16:23] <Slartibartfast> no problem here
[16:24] <venik> I just checked the plasma packages with synaptic-- no option for reinstalling them
[16:24] <Slartibartfast> should be in the menu options i think .......
[16:24] <Slartibartfast> otherwise just use a terminal
[16:30] <altrortla> How can I change language interface?
[16:30] <venik> I types: sudo apt-get --reinstall kdebase-plasma but got: Invalid operation kdebase-plasma
[16:30] <altrortla> 8.04
[16:31] <multoff> есть кто живой
[16:32] <Slartibartfast> !ru|multoff
[16:32] <altrortla> multoff: your language is?
[16:33] <altrortla> it's possible to have several user on kubuntu with different language interface?
[16:33] <Slartibartfast> probably it should be apt-get --reinstall install
[16:34] <Slartibartfast> i think so ... altrortla.. just depends on what your personal settings are ... and these are stored in your homoe -dir
[16:34] <Slartibartfast> home-dir
[16:36] <Slartibartfast> venik: use apt-get --reinstall install kdebase-plasma instead
[16:52] <michael__> what language I can to speak in there?
[16:52] <SlimeyPete> English
[16:52] <fosco__> here? english only
[16:52] <SlimeyPete> but there are ubuntu channels for other languages too
[16:53] <SlimeyPete> What language do you want?
[16:53] <michael__> In this IRC-net I can to find Russian?
[16:53] <SlimeyPete> !russian
[16:53] <fosco__> !ru
[16:53] <HappySmileMan> !ru
[16:53] <SlimeyPete> <-- fastest fingers in the west
[16:53] <michael__> I vary Happy, thanks
[16:57] <fabio_> hi
[16:57] <fabio_> how to start strigi for nepomuk searches?
[16:58] <fabio_> there is someone that made it working in kubuntu?
[16:59] <joe_> Im not abel to get Adept or the Synoptic package manager working i
[17:00] <fabio_> hi joe...seems all busy here
[17:06] <Zeelot3k> hey guys
[17:06] <Zeelot3k> im using kde 4.2 in kubuntu 8.10 but firefox does not seem to know about any outside apps (cant even do "open containing folder" because it doesnt know about dolphin), anyone have a solution?
[17:10] <mefisto__> Zeelot3k: doesn't it let you choose which app to use ?
[17:11] <Lynx_> Hi all! I uninstalled Katapult, which I had set to Ctrl + Space as a hotkey. Now I assigned that hotkey back to the KDE menu, but it does not work. Is there some other place except the KDE settings where I have to change hotkeys?
[17:11] <mefisto__> Zeelot3k: edit, preferences, applications tab, has a list of mimetypes where you can choose default applications too
[17:12] <Zeelot3k> nothing useful there
[17:13] <Zeelot3k> its supposed to use the kde default apps
[17:14] <mefisto__> Zeelot3k: nothing useful? don't you have a list of mimetypes?
[17:14] <Zeelot3k> yes but thats not what I need
[17:14] <Zeelot3k> im talking about every filetype
[17:15] <mefisto__> Zeelot3k: then I don't know what your question is about
[17:15] <Zeelot3k> for example torrents dont open
[17:16] <Zeelot3k> and I cant open the containing folder
[17:16] <Zeelot3k> those things are not on the list in the settings
[17:16] <mefisto__> Zeelot3k: when you click a link to a torrent, for example, do you see a dialog asking you what to do with it?
[17:17] <Zeelot3k> right but my only option is to save it
[17:17] <Zeelot3k> I cannot run it
[17:17] <bazhang> in firefox?
[17:17] <Zeelot3k> yea
[17:17] <bazhang> why not set it then
[17:17] <Zeelot3k> set what
[17:18] <Zeelot3k> why doesnt firefox know I have KTorrent installed?
[17:18] <bazhang> the way ff handles the file
[17:18] <bazhang> ie hand off to ktorrent/transmission/etc
[17:18] <Zeelot3k> you cant
[17:18] <Zeelot3k> huh?
[17:18] <bazhang> can do it here
[17:21] <mefisto__> Zeelot3k: firefox 3 ?
[17:22] <Zeelot3k> yea
[17:26] <mefisto__> Zeelot3k: look in your firefox profile folder. do you have mimetypes.rdf in there?
[17:31] <mefisto__> Lynx_: is this in hardy?
[17:31] <Lynx_> mefisto__: i believe so, erm, how do i find out the version again?
[17:32] <bazhang> !version
[17:32] <Lynx_> thx. It's intrepid.
[17:33] <mefisto__> Lynx_: how did you install katapult?
[17:33] <Lynx_> mefisto__: i think via apt-get, if i remember correctly
[17:33] <mefisto__> !info katapult
[17:33] <Lynx_> ok, then not ;)
[17:34] <Lynx_> i guess via the tarball they provide
[17:34] <mefisto__> Lynx_: the reason I ask is because the alt-F2 dialog has the same functionality as katapult now, which is why katapult is not available for intrepid in official repos
[17:35] <mefisto__> Lynx_: you can set the keyboard shortcut to be alt-space instead of alt-F2 if that's what you're used to
[17:35] <Lynx_> mefisto__: ok, thank you, didn't know that
[17:36] <mefisto__> Lynx_: and there are a few different places where you can set keyboard shortcuts in kde 4. it's kind of confusing
[17:37] <Lynx_> mefisto__:  it seems so, because no shortcut I set up for the application launcher in the kde settings works
[17:38] <Lynx_> but alt-space for the run command works, so thats what i want
[17:39] <mefisto__> Lynx_: application launcher as in the menu? with the big K ?
[17:39] <Luija> oh my god guys
[17:39] <Lynx_> mefisto__: yes. or is that not what it's called int he keyboard settings?
[17:39] <Luija> i am so tired of ubuntu wifi problems
[17:40] <mefisto__> Lynx_: that's what it's called. just making sure
[17:40] <Luija> now the problems is than I actu the firmware of my router, ALL my other pc with vista can connect to wifi, except, of course... ubuntu
[17:40] <mefisto__> Lynx_: right-click the K icon of the menu, Application Launcher settings
[17:40] <mefisto__> Lynx_: try setting the shortcut there
[17:41] <Lynx_> mefisto__: there is only one option in that windows, switch tabs on hover
[17:41] <Luija> i installed guarddog, it was messing so i desinstalled it, and after that, temporaly solve the wifi problem, but i turn off the pc, guarddog is no more, and i cant still connect to wifi
[17:41] <Luija> guys if u dont give me a solution, is an adios to linux in my house
[17:42] <Luija> "<Luija> now the problems is than I actu the firmware of my router, ALL my other pc with vista can connect to wifi, except, of course... ubuntu"
[17:42] <Lynx_> mefisto__: the run command thing is not great either, unless i'm missing options: when I type "ko" in the application launcher text box it suggests Komodo, but in the run command thing I have to type out the whole of komodo
[17:43] <Luija> ...
[17:44] <Guest27693> Is there any free accounting software for Ubuntu that installs easily
[17:45] <fosco__> accounting for what
[17:45] <bazhang> !info kmymoney
[17:45] <bazhang> !info gnucash
[17:45] <mefisto__> Lynx_: if you type "kon" does it suggest konqueror, konsole, etc ?
[17:45] <Guest27693> home and business
[17:46] <Lynx_> mefisto__: hmm, yes it does. must be because i manually added komodo to the menu
[17:46] <Guest27693> gnucash does not have a debain install package
[17:46] <esdaniel> guest27693: http://tinyurl.com/and2cw
[17:46] <bazhang> Guest27693, you are using debian?
[17:47] <mefisto__> Lynx_: what's the actual command for komodo? that is, what would you type in a terminal to start it?
[17:47] <Guest27693> Ubuntu and the installer will only run debain
[17:48] <Lynx_> mefisto__:  I figured it out, the command is actually komodo, it works if I put komodo into the description box in the menu editor also
[17:48] <Lynx_> mefisto__: thanks for your help!
[17:48] <mefisto__> Lynx_: ok, that's handy to know. thanks to you too
[17:48] <bazhang> Guest27693, gnucash is in the ubuntu repos
[17:49] <Guest27693> let me go look for it...thanks
[17:49] <newUbuntuUser> hi.  I'm totally new to linux and was trying to install but ran into a bit of an error.
[17:49] <carpii> im clicking a link to a video, and firefox instead downloads a .3gp file.   Is this some form of stream, and is there any software which can use it?
[17:49] <Guest27693> bye
[17:49] <bazhang> Guest27693, sudo apt-get install gnucash
[17:49] <newUbuntuUser> It seems that when I tried to install kubuntu decided to completely corrupt my partition table.
[17:50] <newUbuntuUser> I've tried gparted to no luck.
[17:50] <mefisto__> carpii: 3gp files are video files commonly used in phones
[17:50] <newUbuntuUser> fsck says Error 2 on the main drive.
[17:50] <carpii> hm
[17:50] <newUbuntuUser> Does anyone know who I can recover my windows partition?
[17:51] <mefisto__> newUbuntuUser: fsck is checking your windows partition?
[17:51] <newUbuntuUser> It says the entire disk is Ext3 now.  There was an error while partitioning.  Something about writing to disk.
[17:51] <carpii> Guest27693, this doesnt really help you right now, but Im writing a web based accountancy software like MS money. You can track its progress here https://sourceforge.net/projects/openassets/
[17:52] <newUbuntuUser> anyone, any ideas on how to fix my partion table?
[17:53] <mefisto__> newUbuntuUser: does gparted show the windows partition?
[17:53] <newUbuntuUser> I know it still exists since gparted shows it to me, but cant' recover.
[17:53] <newUbuntuUser> When I do check on it, it errors out.
[17:54] <newUbuntuUser> It has a warning.  ntfsresize 2.0.0 (libntfs ...
[17:54] <newUbuntuUser> then it says a whole ton of "missing cluster" errors
[17:54] <Mooqball> is kubuntu feb 25 build that much different from jaunty alpha 5
[17:54] <wallabee> Just a quick question..is there a terminal command similar to the "ipconfig/all" windows command??
[17:55] <fosco__> wallabee, not sure what it does, but try ifconfig -a
[17:55] <mefisto__> newUbuntuUser: and you can't start windows?
[17:55] <newUbuntuUser> No.
[17:55] <wallabee> thanks
[17:55] <newUbuntuUser> I think i'll try chkdsk /f in safemode.  Maybe that'll fix it.
[17:57] <gerson> de onde fala?
[17:58] <itsatrick> Is anyone else getting funky plasmoid porblems with OpenOffice.org?
[17:58] <Luija> i will repeat my problem: i cant connect to internet in any form: wired/wifi, i actu the firm of my router, and now the only pcs than can connect to the router r the ones with vista, this is my face: WTF?????!!!!! i uninstall guarddog, and that was a temporal solve, but after I turn off pc, same poblem
[17:58] <Luija> guys if u dont give me a solution is a adios to linux in my house
[17:58] <Luija> by the way i am talking from vista
[17:59] <itsatrick> I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, Luija, but do you have knetworkmanager installed?
[18:00] <antonio_> ciao ragazzi
[18:01] <mefisto__> !it | antonio_
[18:02] <gerson> Tem brasileiro aí gente?
[18:03] <mefisto__> !br | gerson
[18:03] <Luija> itsatrick: of course yes....
[18:03] <Luija> YESTERDAY
[18:03] <Luija> i could connect to internet
[18:03] <Luija> without problems
[18:04] <Luija> but after the actu of my router firmware, the only ones than can connect r the ones with vista
[18:04] <Luija> srry got d/c
[18:05] <Luija> itsatrick of course yes...
[18:05] <Luija> what i am triying to tell u
[18:05] <Luija> is thab before i could connect without any problems to wifi
[18:05] <Luija> but now, after the actu of the firm of my router
[18:05] <Luija> the only ones than can r the ones with vista and my ps3
[18:05] <SJr|Work> Kubuntu 8.04 or Kubuntu 8.10
[18:06] <Luija> this is my face: WTF????!!!!!
[18:06] <Luija> 8.10
[18:06] <mefisto__> Luija: sounds like your router is the problem
[18:06] <itsatrick> I had trouble connecting after the last update...I found that all my saved networks vanished.
[18:06] <Luija> not possible
[18:06] <Luija> because i hvae 4 laptops
[18:06] <Luija> the only one than cant connect is mine
[18:06] <Luija> and i could before without problems
[18:07] <tobbo> night evbody
[18:07] <mefisto__> Luija: before what?
[18:07] <Luija> the actu of the firmware
[18:07] <Luija> but what i am triying to tell u
[18:07] <tobbo> anyone know spoof for konversation?
[18:07] <Luija> is than my other laptops with vista can connect
[18:07] <Luija> mine with kubuntu not -___-
[18:08] <mefisto__> what is "actu" ?
[18:09] <newUbuntuUser> WOW!  Well chkdisk worked, it fixed kubuntu's corruption of the partion table.
[18:09] <newUbuntuUser> thansk all
[18:09] <newUbuntuUser> bye
[18:09] <Luija> actualization lol
[18:09] <Luija> too lazy to write it complete :)
[18:10] <bazhang> firmware ?
[18:10] <mefisto__> actualization ?
[18:10] <bazhang> no idea what actualization is
[18:11] <Luija> oh
[18:11] <Luija> wait
[18:11] <Luija> yes
[18:11] <Luija> the firmware...
[18:11] <bazhang> !enter | Luija
[18:11] <Luija> the update to my firmware!!
[18:12] <Luija> thats the correct word :) (i thing lol)
[18:12] <bazhang> Luija, dont type two words then hit enter
[18:12] <Luija> think*
[18:12] <Luija> srry
[18:12] <bazhang> sounds like a router issue
[18:12] <Luija> baz...
[18:12] <Luija> my laptops from vista can connect
[18:13] <NotForResale-US> can someone help me.. im trying to run command sudo apt-get install mercurial linux-headers-$KERNEL_VERSION build-essential
[18:13] <NotForResale-US> but it says mercurial is not found
[18:13] <Luija> i am talking from vista in this moment, but kubuntu dont wanna connect either wired or wireless :S
[18:13] <Luija> mercurial not found'? no lol
[18:14] <bazhang> Luija, connect an ethernet cable to the kubuntu machine
[18:14] <mefisto__> Luija: can you ping the router?
[18:14] <NotForResale-US> E: Couldn't find package mercurial
[18:14] <Luija> baz, i tried to that and not connection either
[18:14] <bazhang> Luija, do you seek assistance?
[18:14] <Luija> yes mefisto, i can ping the router (if u mean than i can connect)
[18:14] <Luija> yes baz :S
[18:15] <cuznt> did knetwork get turned off or uninstalled?
[18:15] <Luija> no cuznt
[18:15] <cuznt> right on
[18:15] <Luija> yes
[18:15] <bazhang> Luija, then a) easy on the enter key, and b) follow the instructions we give
[18:16] <venik> Slar-- Here is what I got: apt-get --reinstall install kdebase-plasma
[18:16] <Luija> ok, but i will need to log off from vista and enter kubuntu lol
[18:16] <Luija> AND the problem is than
[18:16] <Luija> kubuntu dont wanna get internet
[18:16] <Luija> by either wireless or wired
[18:16] <Luija> from my router
[18:16] <bazhang> Luija, then better write down what to do
[18:16] <Luija> ok baz
[18:16] <Luija> bring it lol
[18:17] <tekstacy> !apt-fix
[18:17] <Luija> be the way
[18:17] <venik> Sorry-- Reinstallation of kdebase-plasma is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[18:17] <Luija> by*
[18:17] <Luija> i installed guarddog
[18:17] <Luija> BUT
[18:17] <bazhang> Luija, after connecting the ethernet cable, make sure that your nic is seen by typing in konsole ifconfig
[18:17] <Luija> I uninstalled it, and after that the problem solved, BUT i turned off, and the same :S
[18:18] <bazhang> Luija, it should be named something like eth0
[18:18] <Luija> ok
[18:18] <bazhang> Luija, then sudo dhclient eth0
[18:18] <Luija> write everything, i am gonna print
[18:19] <bazhang> I am still guessing it is a router issue though, and not to do with kubuntu, in light your just disclosing this was just after a firmware upgrade
[18:19] <venik> can someone tell me why kdebase-plasma cannot be downloaded?
[18:20] <venik> I installed it, but things are not working correctly-- cannot change icons
[18:20] <bazhang> if your router is fine, then sudo dhclient eth0 will bring you a working internet connection
[18:20] <mefisto__> the router firmware upgrade may have created a new eth# eg eth1
[18:20] <Luija> but vaz, my pcs with vista can connect :S (i am talking from vista
[18:20] <bazhang> yep
[18:21] <bazhang> Luija, in future, use tab-completion for users nicknames
[18:22] <Luija> sweet
[18:22] <Luija> ok so
[18:22] <Luija> u can repeat me what i have to do pls?
[18:22] <bazhang> just scroll up ^^
[18:22] <mefisto__> venik: how did you install it if you can't download it?
[18:23] <Luija> ok
[18:28] <venik> I also want to know the answer to that question.  All I know is that it is installed (probably as part of the initial installation), but since it is not working right, I'd like to reinstall it
[18:29] <mefisto__> venik: sudo apt-get update
[18:29] <gerson> Olá como devo proceder para entrar no kubuntu.br
[18:31] <mefisto__> gerson: /join #ubuntu-br
[18:53] <joerg> Hallo!!
[18:53] <joerg> Hallo!
[18:54] <wildbat> hello
[18:54] <DailyBudd> Hello!
[18:54] <joerg> Hello! Iam new.
[18:55] <wildbat> welcome
[18:56] <Luija> nothing
[18:56] <Luija> could not connect..........................
[18:56] <Luija> unknown hardware or something -___-
[18:56] <Luija> i am pissed off as hell
[18:58] <joerg> Hello! Whats happen?
[18:59] <Luija> bazhang...
[18:59] <Luija> not any solution?
[19:15] <eugo> why does krdc (kde remote desktop client) look all blurry or 'jagged' in my realvnc client?
[19:16] <eugo> i have to select "raw mode" to get the picture clear, but still then the pic is "jagged"
[19:43] <nightwlkr> hellow
[19:45] <nightwlkr> i just got a new ATI Radeon X1650 vga ... vga is working fine but i can't seem to b able to activate the driver :S
[19:47] <mefisto__> you mean it doesn't work when you activate it and reboot?
[19:48] <nightwlkr> it just doesn't activate... nothing happens
[19:49] <nightwlkr> ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver i press on activate it just foes nothing
[19:50] <mefisto__> did you have the fglrx driver installed before getting the new ati card?
[19:50] <nightwlkr> no i just installed a fresh copy
[19:51] <nightwlkr> thought my built in vga had messed up my xconfig so i installed a fresh copy still the same
[19:51] <mefisto__> your built in vga is ati?
[19:51] <nightwlkr> nope it's sis
[19:53] <mefisto__> so you put the new ati card in, then installed the fglrx driver? or you tried to enable it from "hardware drivers" in the menu? what did you do first?
[19:54] <nightwlkr> ok i plugged in my ati vga card, installed a fresh kubuntu then i went into system / hardware Drivers .. then i press activate it just doesn't work
[19:56] <mefisto__> and then?
[19:57] <PSiL0> !akondi
[19:57] <nightwlkr> tried rebooting and all that..my max resolution is 800 x 600
[19:57] <PSiL0> !akonadi
[19:57] <mefisto__> nightwlkr: you said "no i just installed a fresh copy"
[19:58] <nightwlkr> ya i did... after it wasn't working
[19:58] <mefisto__> nightwlkr: you installed the fglrx driver?
[19:59] <nightwlkr> i had kubuntu for a while now using my built in sis vga.. i got the ati plugged it, resolution max 800x600 compiz and desktop effects working though and they weren't on my sis vga so that was good..
[20:00] <nightwlkr> no..it just gives me this ati/amd thing on hardware drivers.. and doesn't activate, haven't installed anything
[20:00] <nightwlkr> i'll try finding that
[20:01] <mefisto__> ok, so when you said you installed a fresh copy, you meant you reinstalled kubuntu?
[20:01] <nightwlkr> exactly
[20:01] <mefisto__> ok, got it
[20:03] <hallowname> i keep getting 'no space left on device' errors from dpkg, but none of my partitions are full :( tips?
[20:04] <mefisto__> nightwlkr: enable restricted sources and try to enable again
[20:05] <nightwlkr> all restricted sources r enabled already
[20:06] <nightwlkr> am trying this now .. " sudo apt-get install fglrx-amdcccle
[20:07] <yaa_> zajebiss
[20:08] <mefisto__> nightwlkr: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic jockey-kde
[20:10] <mefisto__> nightwlkr: fglrx-amdcccle is the "Catalyst control center" app, which is unnecessary
[20:10] <nightwlkr> yikes 23.4 mb :P
[20:10] <mefisto__> nightwlkr: but it will probably install the fglrx driver package with it
[20:11] <nightwlkr> ya i already cancelled the previous installing this 1
[20:13] <mefisto__> !ati | nightwlkr
[20:15] <mefisto__> hallowname: sudo apt-get clean    will remove all the deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[20:16] <jerik> hi, i entered "/usr/sbin/groupadd -g dbus" but should have had 81 lik "/usr/sbin/groupadd -g 81 dbus", now when i do what I think should be the obvious "/usr/sbin/groupdel dbus" I get an error saying that I cant remove the users primary group...
[20:17] <jerik> someone who knows what 81 is for? and how i get around this?
[20:17] <hallowname> mefisto__: it will indeed :) but i dont have any there. my dpkg is reporting disk full on a disk with 3gb empty...
[20:20] <mefisto__> hallowname: and none of your partitions are close to full?
[20:20] <hallowname> mefisto__: nope
[20:21] <mefisto__> hallowname: what are you trying to install?
[20:22] <hallowname> mefisto__: pidgin, its not a package problem i dont think...
[20:22] <hallowname> i beleive apt has a setting for how much cache to use when i might have overwritten :( im off to see, thx for the [attempted] help :D
[20:23] <mefisto__> hallowname: is it trying to install loads of dependencies?
[20:29] <nightwlkr> mefisto__: also there's the issue of graphics suddenly freezing and i can't do anything..amarok was still playing the song though, no keyboard or mouse response
[20:32] <mefisto__> nightwlkr: I'm confused about 1) which video card you are currently using 2) what you have installed/are trying to install
[20:35] <nightwlkr> currently i have ATI Radeon x1650 plugged on my pc, trying to install linux-restricted-modules jockey-kde like u told me.. but pc freezes no response when i use keyboard or mouse, though music was still going on in the background
[20:36] <nightwlkr> i rebooted to b able to work again
[20:36] <mefisto__> nightwlkr: did those 2 things install properly?
[20:37] <nightwlkr> well it's 23.4 mb so am waiting..so far 7.2 mb done and since there's a storm outside 15.4 kb/s it's gonna take a while
[20:39] <mefisto__> nightwlkr: ok, if things freeze up on you again, you might want to try installing them without X running. eg, you could boot in recovery mode and go to text mode login, install them, then reboot normally and try enabling again as normal
[20:41] <nightwlkr> mefisto__:  ya i can do that, thnx for the help :) will wait and c what happens,
[20:48] <usuario_> hola
[20:49] <usuario_> hola
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[20:49] <usuario_> holaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:49] <usuario_> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:49] <usuario_> hola!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:49] <carpii> dont be a moron plz
[20:50] <usuario_> hello
[20:50] <usuario_> my name is diego
[20:51] <usuario_> hablo español
[20:51] <usuario_> alguien abla español??????
[20:51] <genii> !es | diego_
[20:51] <diego_> jajaja
[20:52] <diego_> gracias
[21:01] <alesan> hi do you know how to remove KDE4?
[21:01] <HappySmileMan> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[21:03] <alesan> that is already removed... but I still have some KDE4 packages around....
[21:03] <mefisto__> alesan: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[21:03] <alesan> the installation of KDE3.5 restored my happyness
[21:03] <alesan> no gnome please :)
[21:03] <mefisto__> alesan: what do you have installed?
[21:03] <alesan> KDE3.5
[21:04] <mefisto__> alesan: hardy?
[21:04] <alesan> I think it was you who gave me the link on how to install KDE3.5 on intrepid
[21:04] <drbobb> HappySmileMan: removing kubuntu-desktop doesn't really remove anything
[21:05] <HappySmileMan> drbobb: It depends on everything, si I assumed once you remove that an auto-remove would remove everything it depends on
[21:05] <alesan> mefisto__, I am using the repository at http://ppa.launchpad.net/kb9vqf/ubuntu
[21:05] <drbobb> not sure about autoremove
[21:05] <HappySmileMan> Unless I guess you installed some KDE packages manually, in which case those need to be removed too
[21:06] <drbobb> but just removing kubuntu-desktop removes, uh, just the kubuntu-desktop package
[21:06] <alesan> HappySmileMan, an apt-get autoremove removed quite a few packages actually
[21:06] <Laeborg-lap> any programs for linux to stream music to a shoutcast server?
[21:06] <myo> [ot] why everbody says kde 4 sucks?  i 'm using it with no problems... (almost.... but its ok)
[21:06] <alesan> myo, you would love windows vista I suppose
[21:06] <myo> i don't
[21:07] <myo> im a .net developer
[21:07] <myo> but i ise linux
[21:07] <myo> at home
[21:07] <myo> and kubuntu with kde 4
[21:07] <myo> what's wrong with kde4
[21:07] <myo> i can't understnad..
[21:07] <myo> :(
[21:08] <mefisto__> alesan: you could remove the kde4 packages listed at the puregnome link I just gave you, then install kubuntu-desktop to make sure you have everything required for kde3
[21:08] <alesan> I *personally* think everything in KDE4 is just so unconvenient. I tried hard to use 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, there are improvements but so far KDE3.5 is much better. again, PERSONAL opinion.
[21:08] <drbobb> it's not so much that anything's wrong with kde4
[21:08] <HappySmileMan> Well people have different opinions, and don't need to explain them, but real question is why people can't keep it to themselves unless it's actually relevant
[21:08] <drbobb> just that a lot of ppl still find 3.x a lot better
[21:09] <myo> alesan... it's ok yur opinion... but why do u say i unconvinient?
[21:09] <alesan> the only thing that KDE4 is better is that if I open a vi in a konsole4 I can use the mouse scroll wheel to scroll, while in konsole3 I cannot.
[21:09] <alesan> well I will just name a few
[21:09] <myo> thx
[21:09] <mefisto__> myo: some people are still in love with kde3
[21:10] <alesan> if I set the crystal icon theme, he K menu gets the icon of a left arrow.
[21:10] <myo> mefisto__:  yep... looks like thats the reason
[21:10] <alesan> to suspend my laptop, I have to click several times and open a drop down menu, while kde offered a simple button
[21:10] <drbobb> if anyone really asked for a totally subjective opinion, i'd say kde4 is butt-ugly (yeah i know nobody asked)
[21:11] <alesan> the quick launch tray area is a new thing found in 4.2 only but it's hard to add anything
[21:11] <alesan> drbobb, if it is my wife's butt then KDE4 would be beautiful
[21:11] <myo> alesan:  lol
[21:11] <drbobb> lucky you alesan
[21:11] <alesan> the fact is, beauty is irrelevant :)
[21:12] <drbobb> yeah but ugliness sucks
[21:12] <alesan> I want convenience and a low click-count to do things. I love to have access with a single click. KDE4 is worse than 3.5 under this aspect
[21:12] <myo> anyway is just about if is beauty or not..
[21:13] <mefisto__> drbobb: kde4 looks different depending on themes, icons, distribution, etc. it's not kde4 itself
[21:13] <myo> i'm using kubunt with the default theme
[21:13] <myo> and is working good
[21:13] <drbobb> yeah, all themes i've seen look ugly to me
[21:13] <alesan> mefisto__, but sane dafaults have to be provided. I found myself spending hours to make KDE4 look like KDE3.5
[21:13] <myo> is stable and let me doo everythink i want to
[21:13] <alesan> and at the end I switched to gnome
[21:13] <myo> that's all i need
[21:13] <alesan> until you told me how to install 3.5 on intrepid
[21:13] <drbobb> well a lot uglier than i can make 3.5 look with just a few clicks
[21:14] <alesan> drbobb, indeed
[21:14] <alesan> then the worst thing is dolphin
[21:14] <alesan> why don't give us just the good konqueror!!?!
[21:14] <myo> join #trojan
[21:14] <drbobb> easy to get rid of dolphin
[21:14] <myo> join #miro
[21:14] <mefisto__> alesan: I don't think making kde4 look like kde3.5 is sane. kde4 works differently, so making it look like 3.5 would mean hiding a lot of its features
[21:15] <drbobb> but a lot harder to purge the ugliness from the default llok
[21:15] <drbobb> anyway hardy is still supported, so..?
[21:16] <mefisto__> alesan: kubuntu still has konqueror. and kde3.5 has dolphin
[21:16] <drbobb> i simply decided hardy stays on my desktops until EOL
[21:17] <alesan> mefisto__, but in KDE3.5 you can disinstall dolphin
[21:17] <drbobb> by then, hopefully kde4 won't be too far behind 3.x
[21:17] <alesan> while in KDE4 if you disinstall it it will bring down the entire kde4
[21:18] <mefisto__> alesan: really?
[21:18] <alesan> drbobb, I need intrepid's kernel, my thinkpad didn't work well with hardy's (suspend/resume)
[21:18] <alesan> mefisto__, are you sarcastic?
[21:18] <mefisto__> alesan: no, I'm surprised you can't remove dolphin
[21:19] <drbobb> alesan: oops, that sucks
[21:19] <alesan> http://pastebin.ca/1349039
[21:19] <alesan> #
[21:19] <alesan> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[21:19] <alesan> #
[21:19] <alesan>   dolphin kdebase-bin kdebase-data konqueror konqueror-plugin-searchbar
[21:19] <alesan> konqueror depends on dolphin? this is ridiculous
[21:20] <alesan> insulting even :)
[21:20] <mefisto__> insulting how?
[21:20] <alesan> dolphin took the bad of gnome and implemented it :)
[21:20] <alesan> like the absence of a address bar
[21:20] <alesan> where you can copy and paste the current path
[21:20] <mefisto__> alesan: dolphin has an address bar
[21:20] <alesan> where
[21:21] <alesan> I've opened it in front of me I see no address bar
[21:21] <drbobb> alesan: not sure whether this works on kde4, but on kde3.5 you did not need to remove dolphin, it was enough to edit file associations to make folders open in konqueror by default
[21:21] <genii> alesan: Please don't paste multiple lines into this channel, use the pastebin instead
[21:21] <alesan> genii, I used the pastebin watch one line above
[21:21] <mefisto__> alesan: click to the right of the where the location is shown and it appears. click the curved arrow again and it turns into buttons/menus again
[21:22] <alesan> mefisto__, mh...
[21:23] <alesan> you mean click on "edit"?
[21:23] <alesan> yes there is an address bar but if I close and open it again it's gone
[21:23] <mefisto__> alesan: konqueror is now "using" dolphin because it is better
[21:23] <alesan> on nautilus you can press ctrl+L or something for the same
[21:24] <alesan> mefisto__, don't tell me what is better and what not, I told you that my opinion towards KDE4 was personal
[21:24] <alesan> and now I am happy with KDE3.5
[21:25] <alesan> in my HUMBLE opinion it is MUCH more convenient, and KDE4 doesn't give me *anything* other than a better konsole that supports wheel mouse in vim
[21:25] <alesan> I knew I shouldn't have started this :)
[21:26] <mefisto__> alesan: if you don't like what I say, ignore it. you can set dolphin to always show the address bar
[21:26] <genii> nano ~/.kde/share/config/d3lphinrc        and change under [General]  section: Editable URL=false             into: Editable URL=true
[21:26] <alesan> mefisto__, konqueror showed an address bar by default without having to google or IRC to understand how
[21:27] <mefisto__> alesan: it's in dolphin's settings. it's not hard to discover
[21:27] <alesan> genii, interesting. So KDE4 improves the experience by having to muck with config files?
[21:28] <alesan> (nothing against text file config)
[21:28] <alesan> anyway, lunch break's finished, I should go back to work
[21:28] <HappySmileMan> You don't have to use text file
[21:28] <alesan> yeah
[21:29] <NotForResale-US> im having an issue installing v4l-dvb i keep getting errors making  source
[21:29] <alesan> bye
[21:29] <genii> alesan: That is for dolphin/kde 3.5 url bar fix
[21:32] <ethiotech> I am having issue with KDE
[21:33] <ethiotech> My firefox keep freezing every few minutes
[21:33] <ethiotech> I think a lot of times is when I open a flash page
[21:33] <ethiotech> any fix to this? is this a bug?
[21:34] <mefisto__> ethiotech: look at about:plugins in firefox. do you have more than one "Shockwave Flash" listed? and is it version 10 ?
[21:36] <ethiotech> mefisto__: how do I check about:plugins?
[21:36] <ethiotech> are you talkin about "About Mozzila firefox"?
[21:36] <ethiotech> or is this a file?
[21:37] <HappySmileMan> ethiotech: Type "about:plugins" into the address bar in Firefox
[21:38] <HappySmileMan> It's a special page that lists info about your plugins
[21:38] <ethiotech> I have more than one and shocksave is listed
[21:38] <ethiotech> and its version  10.0. r12
[21:39] <ethiotech> I have VLC Multimedia Plug-in
[21:39] <HappySmileMan> Oh well I'm not too sure, my Firefox freezes constantly anyway since I'm always running out of ram
[21:39] <ethiotech> hmm I have enough RAM(4GB)
[21:39] <mefisto__> ethiotech: there is a newer flash plugin. do you have just one "Shockwave Flash" or more than one?
[21:40] <ethiotech> just one
[21:40] <mefisto__> ethiotech: how did you install the flash plugin?
[21:40] <ethiotech> not sure
[21:41] <ethiotech> I probably just clicked ok when it asked to install flash when visitn a flash page
[21:42] <mefisto__> ethiotech: ok to remove the current one you can try: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[21:42] <mefisto__> ethiotech: or this: sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin
[21:43] <ethiotech> ok
[21:43] <Luija> bazhang
[21:44] <Luija> r u there
[21:44] <ethiotech> I only see flashplugin-nonfree
[21:44] <ethiotech> is that the only flashplugin?
[21:44] <Luija> mefisto__ or bazhang
[21:44] <Luija> the problem persist
[21:44] <Luija> i cant still connect to internet in kubuntu..............
[21:44] <mefisto__> ethiotech: that's the one. did it remove?
[21:45] <ethiotech> yeah
[21:45] <ethiotech> should I  apt-get install ?
[21:45] <mefisto__> ethiotech: to make sure it's completely gone now: sudo updatedb && locate libflashplayer.so
[21:46] <mefisto__> ethiotech: that should not find the file libflashplayer.so if it's completely removed
[21:46] <ethiotech> mefisto__: ok whats next?
[21:47] <hallowname> ok ok if i accidentally 'rm /tmp -rf' how can i fix this?
[21:47] <mefisto__> ethiotech: reinstall the flash plugin: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:48] <mefisto__> ethiotech: then close firefox, and restart it. go to a flash site to test
[21:48] <ethiotech> ok thanks
[21:49] <mefisto__> ethiotech: I've seen some mention of installing adobe-flashplugin instead of flashplugin-nonfree because it apparently updates more reliably
[21:49] <Luija> mefisto__ >_h>
[21:49] <Luija> >_>
[21:49] <mefisto__> ethiotech: so you might want to try installing it that way first
[21:49] <Luija> i want internet in my kubuntu again
[21:49] <ethiotech> okay I will try my home box
[21:50] <ethiotech> I am now at work and just  removed and reinstalledflashplugin-nonfree
[21:50] <ethiotech> thanks for the help
[21:52] <SJr|Work> I'm trying to install Kubuntu off of a USB drive, and I keep getting "A monitor has been connected", "A monitor has been disconnected" and the prompts keep coming up and I can never install.
[21:53] <carpii> i take it youve checked for loose connection ?
[21:56] <racecar56> stupid tap to click, can't get rid of it... xorg dies if i do it the xorg way, shmconfig on also fails my xorg, what the heck am i going to do?
[21:57] <SJr|Work> carpii I yanked out the other monitor
[21:57] <SJr|Work> carpii how can I just kill it entirely
[21:58] <mefisto__> hallowname: have you recreated /tmp ?
[22:00] <hallowname> mefisto__: i have, but dunno wut perms to set it to
[22:00] <racecar56> ...
[22:01] <mefisto__> hallowname: all perms. it should be accessible by any user/group
[22:01] <mefisto__> hallowname: so +ugowrxt
[22:01] <hallowname> mefisto__: thx :D
[22:01] <mefisto__> hallowname: t = the "sticky" bit
[22:02] <hallowname> mefisto__: i get an 'invalid mode' error
[22:02] <mefisto__> hallowname: it should look like this when you ls - /       drwxrwxrwt
[22:03] <hallowname> mefisto__: simple enough :) thx for the help
[22:03] <mefisto__> *ls -l /
[22:04] <hallowname> mefisto__: ahh the cmd for it is 'chmod usoa+wrxt' :)
[22:04] <mefisto__> hallowname: ok, sorry about confusing you
[22:05] <hallowname> mefisto__: got it :D thx a ton
[22:05] <hallowname> now for dpkg issues :( /var/lib/dpkg/status: no space left on device ...
[22:06] <racecar56> crashed
[22:06] <mefisto__> oh no! racecar crashed!
[22:07] <hallowname> how can /var have no space left when the / partition its on has 3gb left? :(
[22:08] <Unksi> its on different partition?
[22:08] <mefisto__> hallowname: just to make sure, does df -h /var/cache/apt/archives say you have 3GB left too?
[22:08] <carpii> whats reporting it has no space left?
[22:09] <hallowname> mefisto__: 'df -h /var/cache/apt/archives' shows 6gb free...
[22:09] <hallowname> carpii: dpkg itself... :(
[22:09] <mefisto__> hallowname: also, it probably uses /tmp to unpack the packages, so if /tmp was not right, that may be the cause of the error
[22:10] <hallowname> mefisto__: but now /tmp is fixed and writable, but i still get the 'no space' error...
[22:11] <SJr|Work> Kubuntu USB Installers?
[22:11] <talonstriker> I can't connect to secured (WPA/WEP) networks
[22:15] <hallowname> talonstriker: likely a hardware problem (drivers?)... did this happen all the sudden?
[22:16] <talonstriker> hallowname: nope always been like that since I upgraded to KDE4.  I could connect fine when I was using gnome
[22:16] <hallowname> talonstriker: oh, well run 'nm-applet' and use gnome's wifi utility...
[22:18] <racecar56> brb
[22:18] <talonstriker> hallow: nm-applet quits with a assertion fail
[22:19] <talonstriker> (nm-applet:8143): Gtk-WARNING **: libbonoboui-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:19] <talonstriker> (nm-applet:8143): Gtk-WARNING **: libbonoboui-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:19] <talonstriker> ** (nm-applet:8143): WARNING **: <WARN>  applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[22:19] <talonstriker> (nm-applet:8143): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[22:19] <talonstriker> ah wait
[22:19] <talonstriker> i didn't quit the current networkmanager
[22:20] <talonstriker> ..
[22:20] <slack_> somebody know if the kubuntu-develop team is going to release a libmysql 5.1 to build amarok?
[22:20] <slack_> i'm a HOYGAN XD
[22:22] <mefisto__> hallowname: if you do: export TMPDIR='/tmp'  does that fix it?
[22:22] <talonstriker> thanks hallow!
[22:23] <hallowname> nope
[22:23] <hallowname> mefisto__: failed to open `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for writing status information: No space left on device :(
[22:28] <mefisto__> hallowname: does   /var/lib/dpkg/status-old    exist?
[22:28] <hallowname> mefisto__: it does, should it not?
[22:30] <mefisto__> hallowname: try making a backup of 'status' ( sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status-backup ) then try using the old one ( sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status )
[22:30] <DaddyLonglegs> Please somebody help me upgrade to KDE 4.2. I have added the repo for PPA, but it fails to connect to it whenever I try to fetch updates. Any idea would be much appreciated.
[22:30] <hallowname> mefisto__: ahh ok
[22:30] <mefisto__> hallowname: then sudo apt-get update
[22:30] <hallowname> mefisto__: thx ill try
[22:31] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Hello friend. I'm still stuck behind upgrading to KDE 4.2. I'm trully frustrated.
[22:32] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: hi. when you sudo apt-get upgrade   do you still have packages not installing?
[22:32] <DaddyLonglegs> Nothing happens when I do so.
[22:32] <hallowname> mefisto__: umm, i cant create a 'status' file now :( no space left on device... as in 'cp status-old status' failed...
[22:33] <hallowname> DaddyLonglegs: paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into pastebin.ca and post the link here...
[22:34] <DaddyLonglegs> Sure.
[22:34] <yao_ziyuan> Latest QtCurve. Uploaded via an insecure connection from within China. Use at your own risk.
[22:34] <yao_ziyuan> http://filebin.ca/vuyjws/qtcurve-kde4_0.61.4-0_i386.deb
[22:34] <yao_ziyuan> http://filebin.ca/jzejmw/qtcurve-kde3_0.61.3-0_i386.deb
[22:34] <yao_ziyuan> http://filebin.ca/ybpvhh/qtcurve-gtk2_0.61.4-0_i386.deb
[22:34] <mefisto__> hallowname: getting weird. how big is the original    /var/lib/dpkg/status  file?
[22:35] <DaddyLonglegs> hallowname: Here is the link: http://pastebin.com/d2482bcf3
[22:35] <hallowname> mefisto__: 2.2mb
[22:35] <mefisto__> hallowname: ok. mine is 2.0MB so seems normal
[22:37] <hallowname> mefisto__: yea, sndz right, i think a log file may have filled my /var... and df isnt reporting it... i am on jaunty alpha ;)
[22:38] <mefisto__> hallowname: do you have an unusual partition scheme? could /var/lib/dpkg/status be on a partition not on /   >
[22:38] <mefisto__> hallowname: do you have an unusual partition scheme? could /var/lib/dpkg/status be on a partition not on /   ?
[22:38] <hallowname> DaddyLonglegs: just keep running 'sudo apt-get update' until u get an upgrade...
[22:38] <hallowname> mefisto__: it is a very unusual scheme, but i told the installer to autolocate /var (as in i didn't specify where i wanted /var)
[22:39] <DaddyLonglegs> hallowname: I tried that zillions of times.
[22:39] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' if there are packages "held back"
[22:39] <hallowname> DaddyLonglegs: the repo is added correctly... do you get 404 errors when you 'apt-get update'?
[22:39] <DaddyLonglegs> hallowname: No.
[22:40] <Assurbanipal> hi, which wysiwyg editor do u guys recomend for kubuntu?
[22:40] <mefisto__> Assurbanipal: text editor?
[22:40] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: No. The bottomline is: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:41] <Assurbanipal> mefisto__: for making web pages without using html code
[22:41] <hallowname> DaddyLonglegs: then everything is smooth, try kwrite > help > about kde to see what version of kde you have
[22:41] <DaddyLonglegs> hallowname: It's 4.1.4
[22:42] <hallowname> DaddyLonglegs: oh... and you want newer ones for intrepid right?
[22:42] <DaddyLonglegs> hallowname: I want 4.2
[22:42] <mefisto__> Assurbanipal: quanta plus for lots of features, kompozer for simple stuff
[22:42] <hallowname> DaddyLonglegs: try the kde4 nightly buildservice packages... i think they have an intrepid repo...
[22:43] <DaddyLonglegs> hallowname: How can I add those repos?
[22:43] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: have you tried backports?
[22:43] <hallowname> DaddyLonglegs: google 'project neon repo intrepid'
[22:44] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: the 4.2 packages are in backports official repo now. that may work better
[22:44] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: No. What are they?
[22:44] <draik_> I bought a new 1TB HDD and it is still not able to process with the installation of Kubuntu 8.10
[22:44] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: kdesudo software-properties-kde
[22:45] <draik_> It gets as far as the keyboard inquiry, but when it comes to the HDD selection, it's null
[22:45] <draik_> Nothing happens.
[22:45] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: That gives me the Software Sources window.
[22:45] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: enable the backports repo on the updates tab (unsupported updates, I think it's called there)
[22:46] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Oh, I see.
[22:46] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Now sudo apt-get update, upgrade, dist-update?!
[22:47] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: but that will upgrade everything in backports, not just kde4
[22:47] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: So, is there any way to restrict the update just to KDE 4?
[22:48] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: when you quit the software sources window, it should do the sudo apt-get update for you
[22:48] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Yes. It did.
[22:48] <hallowname> DaddyLonglegs: after you 'update' open 'aptitude' and pick which apps u want to upgrade... backports -usually- breaks installs...
[22:49] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: you could try doing an upgrade, and see what it wants to upgrade. if there are things there you don't want upgraded, just update the ones that seem like kde4 packages
[22:49] <DaddyLonglegs> hallowname: Oh, I've never used aptitude so far. It looks quite new to me.
[22:50] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: that is, say no when it asks to upgrade, then sudo apt-get install just the kde4 ones, and it should upgrade them to newest versions
[22:50] <hallowname> DaddyLonglegs: oh, well dont then :) if it looks too complex, just use adept to pick which to upgrade
[22:51] <hallowname> mefisto__: /tmp needs 'chmod 1777' instead of 'chmod ugo+rwxt' dunno y tho...
[22:51] <hallowname> mefisto__: still cant figure out the no space on device error :( *kicks /var*
[22:52] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Even after enabling backports updates, it doesn't show me any list of packages to update.
[22:52] <BigMike>  i have a 2 gig swap partition that is never used an my ram only uses about 500 megs out of 2 gigs should I delete the swap or reduce it to 500 megs
[22:53] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: BTW, I just updated kubuntu a couple of hours ago.
[22:53] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: you mean there were updates, and they installed?
[22:54] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Yes, there were, and thy successfully installed.
[22:54] <Laeborg-lap> I have installed steam via PlayOnLinux (Using Wine, I guess), but when I try to change the graphics to OpenGL, the game crash. Then I tried to run 'glxgears' but it only gives me 100-200 FPS. I have a Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 graphic card.
[22:55] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: ok, this is a long shot, but look in /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure there is at least one blank line at the bottom of that file. I think all text editors in k/ubuntu do that for you anyway, but doesn't hurt to make sure
[22:56] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Sure.
[22:57] <NSsmiles> hi
[22:57] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: I checked it, and the last line was blank.
[22:58] <Xeno43> If I'm having a problem when I try to install Kubuntu with Wubi, should i go to wubi support or here?
[22:59] <Xeno43> Lol, when I click on Kubuntu to boot, my monitor goes black and shows a little blue screen that it doesn't support the resolution Kubuntu is tryin to use
[22:59] <Xeno43> Is there a way to fix that?
[22:59] <Xeno43> Like change the resolution before boot?
[22:59] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Hey... I added couple of more blank lines at the end of sources.list, and then run apt-get upgrade, it gave me a bunch of new updates, I'm not sure what they are though.
[23:00] <Herazio> goodevening
[23:01] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: It says that a bunch of packages have been kept back, and a bunch of them are to be upgraded.
[23:01] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: if you want to make sure what they are first, you could say no, then use adept to do the upgrades. you should be able to preview the updates before applying
[23:01] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Aha!
[23:02] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: or you could turn off backports again, then sudo apt-get update to see what is upgradeable
[23:02] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Nice idea.
[23:02] <Herazio> I'm gonna barge right in with my question here. I'm having some trouble enabling my wireless card (Intel PRO/3945ABG). It seems to be supported by Kubuntu but doesn't seem to be able to get enabled. I tried some proprietary drivers (Ndiswrapper <-- No go). On Windows I need to press FN - F1 but this also doesn't work on Kubuntu. I've been searching on the forums, and on google. But no luck.
[23:03] <racecar56> the tap to click is so aggrivating
[23:03] <Herazio> oh I also remember on Windows I had a program that asked me to switch on or off my WLAN card. (Fujitsu Siemens Amilo LI2735)
[23:04] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: It's pretty strange. I haven't disabled backports yet; I ran adept to fetch updates list, and it didn't give me anything! Apt-get upgrade gave me at least 20 packages to update though.
[23:07] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: I suppose you could look up each package at packages.ubuntu.com if you want, or find what those packages are in adept even though it doesn't seem to want to do any upgrades
[23:07] <mefisto__> apt seems to have gone nuts for both DaddyLonglegs and hallowname
[23:11] <lucas_> k$
[23:11] <lucas_> khgh
[23:11] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: What's kdelibs5?
[23:13] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: part of kde. kde libraries
[23:13] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Is kdebase-runtime-data is the main package to be upgraded for KDE 4.2?
[23:15] <anita> hi agaiin
[23:15] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: it's part of kdebase-runtime (no surprise there)
[23:15] <anita> how do i find the channel list with konversation?
[23:16] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: you can see details of packages with    apt-cache show <package-name>
[23:16]  * DaddyLonglegs wonders if anita is Persian.
[23:16] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Ah. Thanks.
[23:16] <jamesjedimaster> anita: with the key F5
[23:17] <snarkster> anyone know how to add another panel?
[23:17] <anita> persian?
[23:18] <DaddyLonglegs> anita: with capital p of course.
[23:18] <Herazio> Snarkster: That is quite easy right click on your KDE Desktop and click on Add panel ! (if your Widgets are unlocked ^^)
[23:19] <anita> is that suppose to be a nick ? DaddyLonglegs
[23:19] <DaddyLonglegs> anita: I suppose it to be so.
[23:19] <anita> no sorry i''m not
[23:21] <DaddyLonglegs> No success for today again. Time to leave.
[23:21]  * DaddyLonglegs is shuting down...
[23:21] <Herazio> Maybe I should shorten my Question ! :P (Intel Wireless PRO/3945ABG). The FN keys are not working on Kubuntu. I've tried reinstalling proprietary drivers. Normally I need to use a GUI (in windows) to enable WLAN.
[23:22] <snarkster> thank you
[23:24] <mefisto__> Herazio: knetworkmanager is the gui in kubuntu. but many people say it doesn't work too well. I don't use wireless myself so I can't be much help, sorry
[23:25] <Herazio> mefisto__: that's alright ^^ I appreciate the answer though !
[23:25] <TeslaTony> Does anyone recommend any particular external hard drives/NAS for backing up a desktop with 1.1 or so terabytes of space, and two netbooks? (this is with both WinXP and Ubuntu)
[23:26] <Bsims> I am looking for a simple to use way to do web dj on linux, I want it to work with amarok if possible
[23:28] <gaurav__> hi
[23:28] <Bsims> howdy
[23:28] <gaurav__> is it possible for me to upgrade from kubuntu kde 4.1 version to kde 4.2
[23:28] <gaurav__> any upgradation options available???
[23:29] <Bsims> What version are you runnung
[23:29] <gaurav__> kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.1
[23:29] <mefisto__> gaurav__: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[23:30] <gaurav__> so it depends on the version of kubuntu
[23:30] <gaurav__> like jaunty
[23:30] <gaurav__> or intrepid
[23:30] <Bsims> gaurav__: nope http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[23:30] <Bsims> gaurav__: enable that ppa and then do an update and upgrade
[23:31] <gaurav__> ppa?
[23:31] <mefisto__> Bsims: have you looked at that lately? there is no ppa there now. just says enable backports!
[23:31] <Bsims> unofficial archive
[23:31] <gaurav__> kk
[23:31] <Bsims> mefisto__: Ah Ok
[23:31] <mefisto__> Bsims: just noticed it now
[23:32] <gaurav__> i had got the cd from cannonical
[23:32] <gaurav__> how do i know which version of kubuntu do i have
[23:32] <gaurav__> intrepid or jaunty?
[23:32] <Bsims> Intrepid is what you have
[23:32] <gaurav__> okk
[23:33] <Haza> Evening folks. I need to turn off some weird kind of notification functionality in KDE 4.2.x
[23:33] <gaurav__> thanx guys
[23:33] <Haza> I looked into the settings under notifications but was unable to find anything that would turn it off
[23:33] <Bsims> Haza: whats it doing?
[23:33] <Haza> Bsims: Its being VERY annoying :)
[23:33] <Haza> screenshot?
[23:34] <Bsims> Sure dcc away
[23:34] <Bsims> Or can you describe what it is doing
[23:34] <Haza> http://imagebin.org/39474
[23:34] <Haza> its easier to show Bsims :)
[23:35] <Bsims> you are gonna have to go dig in kopete for that its annoys me too... but not enough to dig into it
[23:35] <astromme> no, no, notifications are easy
[23:35] <astromme> System Settings -> Notifications
[23:35] <Haza> astromme: i looked there
[23:35] <Bsims> Haza: found it
[23:36] <Haza> but was unable to find the setting
[23:36] <mefisto__> Haza: just the kopete notifications annoy you? or you want to turn off all notifications?
[23:36] <Haza> Bsims: oh? :)
[23:36] <Haza> All will do
[23:36] <Haza> @ mefisto__
[23:36] <Bsims> in the notifications settings for kopete... Incoming message untick the show message in popup
[23:36] <astromme> Just go to the "Kopete" and change what you need
[23:37] <astromme> Look for the "Incoming Message" event in the Kopete notifications in System Settings
[23:37] <Haza> I see
[23:38] <mefisto__> Haza: in systemsettings > notifications, you can use the dropdown menu to choose "event source" and turn settings on/off as you like them to be
[23:39] <Haza> mefisto__, Bsims, astromme: Thanks guys. This was driving me nuts :)
[23:39] <astromme> hehe =)
[23:39] <gaurav__> how do i switch on the hibernate feature in kubuntu?
[23:39] <Bsims> Heh notifications are a pain in the butt... I can't get kde to use my system bell
[23:39] <gaurav__> it just shows basic, logout, switch, shut down and reboot
[23:39] <gaurav__> and lock as well
[23:39] <gaurav__> how about stand by and hibernate?
[23:40] <mefisto__> Bsims: yeah that doesn't seem to work at all
[23:40] <astromme> Bsims: what about the "System Bell" 'tab' in notifications?
[23:41] <Bsims> astromme: Heh test rings it but it doesn't actually /use/ it... it plays a useless ding in my headphones which I seldom wear though
[23:44] <astromme> Bsims: That's probably an alsa/sound server thing
[23:45] <Bsims> could be but it works with xterm
[23:45] <mefisto__> astromme: it should just do a system "beep". that wouldn't go through alsa would it?
[23:45] <guinness> Hi all
[23:45] <mefisto__> astromme: if it did, it would have to be routed through a sound card, not the system speaker
[23:45] <astromme> mefisto__: It shouldn't, but I have a feeling that alsa (or maybe motherboard, or something) interferes
[23:46] <astromme> On my desktop, if there is a beep without X I get system pc speaker
[23:46] <astromme> However, from inside X, the same terminal app gives a beep to my soundcard
[23:46] <astromme>  /shrug
[23:47] <astromme> And on my laptop, there is no bell speaker, so it always comes through my speakers/headphones
[23:47] <Bsims> Hrm how to I get konversation to widen the chat entry window when it reaches the end again?
[23:47] <mefisto__> astromme: oh, ok so they do intentionally send the beep through alsa
[23:47] <Bsims> Which is broken and dumb
[23:48] <Bsims> found it
[23:49] <Bsims> getting teh bar to expand I mean
[23:49] <subprocess> r
[23:49] <subprocess> hello
[23:49] <subprocess> hello
[23:49] <lovre> hi
[23:49] <dsa> hi
[23:50] <alameda> hola
[23:50] <lovre> clear
[23:50] <alameda> hola
[23:51] <bipolar> well, here goes installing 4.2 on all the office workstations.... :)
[23:51] <astromme> woah... this computer I'm helping to fix has 39000 messages in its email trash folder....
[23:51] <astromme> bipolar: woah, good luck
[23:53] <bipolar> I've been testing it since it was on ppa. and retested the backports packages. looks good so far.
[23:54] <Bsims> bipolar: I've been running from the ppa as well beats the piss out of 4.1
[23:54] <bipolar> Bsims: yep. the only annoyance is akonadi's reliance on mysql. can't be helped I guess
[23:55] <Bsims> Yuppers
[23:55] <bipolar> I did have to disable apparmor's mysqld-akonadi profile though. It doesn't work with nfs mounted home directorys
[23:55] <bipolar> I posted a bug for it
[23:57] <mefisto__> Bsims: how DO you expand the bar in konversation :) I can't find it now
[23:58] <Bsims> mefisto__: Hehe general and under misc
[23:59] <mefisto__> Bsims: thanks. funny how you can be looking right at it but not see it :)
[23:59] <Bsims> Oh I know kde is like that