[01:49] <DIFH-iceroot> hi, first of all i must say that irc is a very good place for support but what about putting an web based irc client on the ubuntu-pages, so that everyone can easily access the irc-support without any knowlegde of irc-clients?
[01:49] <DIFH-iceroot> most of the people dont know irc and dont know the #ubuntu channel
[02:16] <tritium> DIFH-iceroot: that's debatable
[02:17] <DIFH-iceroot> why?
[02:19] <tritium> DIFH-iceroot: it's your opinion that "most" don't know about IRC or the channel, but I would disagree.
[02:19] <DIFH-iceroot> a normal windows user which want to test ubuntu and need support dont know irc imo
[02:20] <tritium> Who said anything about a normal windows user?
[02:24] <DIFH-iceroot> it doesnt matter if the user is a windows user or another user but there are many user out there which dont know irc, freenode, #ubuntu or how to handle an irc client
[02:24] <DIFH-iceroot> so my idea is to give these users a possibilty to use the very good irc-support
[02:27] <tritium> DIFH-iceroot: the "ubuntu pages" you refer to above include http://help.ubuntu.com.  Some simply navigation points to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToGetHelp, which includes a link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage.
[02:27] <tritium> s/simply/simple
[02:28] <DIFH-iceroot> of course there is a very good web-help
[02:28] <DIFH-iceroot> but there must be a reason why there is also an irc-channel!?
[02:28] <tritium> which points to IRC help
[02:28] <tritium> Yes, read that last URL above.
[02:29] <DIFH-iceroot> my idea was just something ike most webshops has, a link wih support on the frontpage with "support" which is using an irc-web-client
[02:29] <Pici> Its listed right under here: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[02:29] <tritium> We really don't have stats to support a claim about how many ubuntu users do or do not know IRC, really.
[02:30] <tritium> Aye, Pici's URL is even more straightforward.
[02:31] <DIFH-iceroot> but the user has to install an irc client, choose the network and type in the channel. and he had to know the correct langaue channel, for exampe a link on ubuntu.de redirects the irc-client to #ubuntu-de
[02:31] <DIFH-iceroot> just one click for live support
[02:36] <tritium> Like I said, we don't have statistics to suggest it is a strong need.
[02:37] <nalioth> DIFH-iceroot: pidgin is installed by default, and the user only has to start it to find themselves in our lovely channel
[02:38] <DIFH-iceroot> ok, it was just an idea
[02:38] <tritium> DIFH-iceroot: and a good suggestion.  Thank you.  We appreciate the feedback.
[02:55] <Pici> removed.
[04:54] <Amaranth> anyone know IceStar?
[05:04] <bazhang> Amaranth, its asus-tek, aka hynix; serial stalker in -ot
[05:06] <bazhang> generally will start in normal convo, then focus on a particular user and get more and more personal/offensive
[06:50] <bazhang> oof
[06:51] <nickrud> someone poke you in the gut bazhang 
[06:52] <bazhang> nickrud, somethingclever's quit message
[06:53] <nickrud> hahaha
[08:58] <Myrtti> Amaranth: he's ASUS-tek
[09:00] <Myrtti> oh, right
[09:01] <bazhang> he denied it when asked straight out
[09:07] <Myrtti> I wouldn't say that
[09:16] <Myrtti> his denial is debatable
[09:19] <ikonia> elky: ping
[10:43] <Myrtti> @bansearch miki82
[11:18] <bazhang> @bansearch spree
[11:20] <bazhang> @bansearch latrell
[12:46] <Myrtti> ARGGGGHHH
[12:51] <Myrtti> oh wow.
[12:54] <Myrtti> http://maemo.org/news/announcements/8fc56f28049811debcf53fcee52907820782/ ♥ 
[13:32] <elky> ikonia, pong?
[14:28] <elky> who the heck is this loonyorange person?
[14:29] <Myrtti> grow-as-apple
[14:29] <bazhang> sp0rtily
[14:30] <elky> oh.
[14:31] <elky> that explains everything.
[14:31] <Myrtti> I can draw a line between grow-as-apple and groovyOrange, but not between sp0rtily, but, whatever
[14:31] <bazhang> mc44 did a short time back
[14:32] <bazhang> grow-as-apple /nick newnick'ing to sp0rt1, then sp0rtily
[14:33] <Myrtti> ooh, it's snowing really heavily
[14:33] <tritium> bazhang: I saw the bansearch for spree.  What's up?
[14:33] <elky> oh well. i'm going to bed. nite
[14:34] <bazhang> tritium, just thought latrell was him ; saw spree@ as ident
[14:34] <bazhang> overly suspicious in this case :)
[14:34] <tritium> bazhang: oh, ok :)
[14:41] <ikonia> @bansearch sp0rtily
[14:41] <ikonia> really ????
[14:41] <ikonia> I know I've banned him in #ubuntu
[14:43] <ikonia> there is still a ban on sp0rtily  in -ot
[14:43] <ikonia> @bansearch sp0rtily
[14:43] <ikonia> why is it now showing up ???
[14:44] <ikonia> oh, it's a kick
[14:44] <bazhang> let me check the bantracker
[14:44] <ikonia> there isn't any
[14:44] <ikonia> just checked
[14:44] <ikonia> they where removed
[14:45] <ikonia> I was sure I'd banned him in #ubuntu though, but that didn't show up
[14:45] <bazhang> he mostly stayed in -ot iirc
[14:46] <bazhang> stalking lynoure amongst others
[14:52] <bazhang> wow convergence
[14:53] <Myrtti> whee.
[14:53] <bazhang> icestar / hynix/ asus-tek and sp0rtily together at last
[14:53] <tritium> @bansearch p549FCA60
[14:54] <ikonia> they are all in the same channel ?
[14:54] <bazhang> in -ot
[14:54] <Myrtti> -ot
[14:54] <bazhang> I was beginning to merge the two in my mind
[14:54]  * Myrtti sweeps the floor
[14:55] <tritium> @btlogin
[14:55] <ikonia> what the devil is #icebuntu
 IceStar: hello, asus
[14:55] <ikonia> maybe he should form with panarchy to make their own distro
[14:56] <bazhang> haha
[14:56] <bazhang> no, icestar is asus-tek/hynix
[14:56] <ikonia> not interested in messing around with this
[14:56] <bazhang> not to be confused with icesword
[14:57] <Myrtti> ikonia: *slap*
[14:57] <ikonia> ?
[14:57] <Myrtti> icestar just joined -ot
[14:57] <bazhang> asus-tek = icestar
[14:58] <bazhang> ikonia, ^^
[14:58] <Myrtti> *I* greeted him first
[14:58] <ikonia> bazhang: I know
[14:58] <ikonia> Myrtti: yes, but why would someone else greet someone who's not in the channel
[14:58] <ikonia> and say "I didn't know they where the same person"
[14:58] <bazhang> why nbeebo gets the long ban but those two remain free is beyond me
[14:58] <ikonia> unless they are either a.) a 3rd nick b.) do know
[14:58] <Myrtti> ok, you're confusing me...
[14:58]  * Myrtti goes to get food
[16:03]  * Myrtti pokes topyli 
[16:22] <Mez> Myrtti: that's mean!
[16:25] <Myrtti> Mez: who, what, where?
[16:25] <Mez> poking people when they're not paying attention
[16:25] <Pici> Thats the best time to poke people.
[16:26] <Myrtti> oh, he asked me to poke him when Hansapallo was online to ask him to change his quit message
[16:29] <Myrtti> and just for the record: I officially hate every goddamned IM software there is, apart from irssi.
[16:29] <Myrtti> this includes bitlbee to certain degree.
[16:30]  * Mez hugs Myrtti
[16:32] <Pici> bazhang: If you're watching #u, can you keep an eye on storbeck please? I'm a bit busy here at work.  
[16:32] <bazhang> Pici, hai
[16:32] <Pici> hi
[16:32] <bazhang> as in japanese yes
[16:33] <Pici> domo
[16:33] <Pici> arigato, mr roboto
[16:33] <mneptok> annata-wa eigo-ga wakarimas-ka?
[16:33] <bazhang> what's he done?
[16:34] <Pici> bazhang: Just being a bit edgy with responses, I havent called him on anything yet though.
[16:35] <Pici> Just being proactive
[16:35] <bazhang> Pici, I saw his response to mohsen only, will watch
[16:35] <Myrtti> I hate lag. I hate lag. I hate lag. I hate lag. I hate lag.
[16:35] <Myrtti> I HATE LAG
[16:35] <Pici> !lag
[16:36] <Myrtti> [Lag: 35.40]
[16:38] <bazhang> that didnt take long
 mohsen: Search Google
[16:39] <bazhang> this is not 'tales of confucius'
[16:39] <bazhang> haha
[16:40]  * bazhang waits for the topic change
[17:00] <Myrtti> since the native speakers think crap is not a curse word, I'm not going to say a word
[17:02] <Myrtti> and here we go again
[17:03] <Myrtti> lessee how much lag I'll collect this time
[17:03] <bazhang> defrysk?
[17:03] <Myrtti> [Lag: 18.61] bah.
[17:09] <Pici> Myrtti: Hello from the future
[17:09] <Pici> or is it the past?
[17:10] <bazhang> haha
[17:13] <bazhang> interesting how the archlinux trolls never actually go into the offtopic channel
[17:21]  * Myrtti kicks bitlbee and pidgin to the earth orbit
[17:21] <bazhang> pop79, how may we help you
[17:22] <pop79> oh howya bazhang. Is Myrtti around?
[17:22] <Pici> Hello Mr. Spoon
[17:22] <bazhang> pop79, not sure, just address your issue and then see how we may resolve it
[17:22] <nickspoon> Hey Pici :)
[17:23] <pop79> bazhang: i was having a chat here with Myrtti the other day
[17:24] <pop79> bazhang: Myrtti told me to have a look at the Code of 
[17:24] <pop79> Conduct
[17:24] <pop79> and the IRC guidlines, which i did in my spear time
[17:24] <pop79> i got banned the other day for being an idiot
[17:25] <pop79> and i really want to be a beeter person, *if* i ever get back into the channels
[17:25] <bazhang> pop79, you seem to been banned a goodly number of times now
[17:26] <pop79> bazhang: Myrtti said that they're were 10 markings but not all of them were bans/kicks
[17:26] <bazhang> pop79, and getting back into the channels before also followed this pattern of you promising to be better
[17:26] <bazhang> pop79, none of which you kept
[17:27] <pop79> i know, but ill do anything to get in
[17:27] <pop79> i was grumpy in the channel last time
[17:27] <bazhang> pop79, so your credibility is pretty much shot in that department
[17:46] <Myrtti> whoa... I was watching CSI...
[17:46] <Myrtti> he has patience of a ...
[17:47] <Myrtti> lightning
[17:48] <bazhang> whats with mtecknology?
[18:24] <Myrtti_> I hate lag.
[18:49] <Gary> dragon_flam: any chance of being less offtopic <-- I was about to say that :p
[18:49] <bazhang> heh
[18:49] <bazhang> too busy watching -ot, my bad
[18:50] <Gary> I see why
[18:51] <bazhang> ompaul is back!
[18:51] <Gary> woo
[19:05] <bazhang> webkit_s aka dragon_flam using random offensive ubottu joke commands
[19:05] <bazhang> have to catch some shuteye :)
[19:05] <Pici> roger that
[19:05] <Pici> cyas
[19:05] <bazhang> thanks :)
[19:14] <Gary> so tempting to op cobalt so he can kick mneptok 
[19:14] <mneptok> Gary: you think he'd stop there?
[19:14] <Gary> pretty quickly after yeah :p
[19:14] <Gary> thats what deop is for
[19:15] <mneptok> no, that's what your o: is for ;)
[19:29] <Myrtti> one cider later I feel much better. strange that.
[19:31] <Gary> after three you'll be fine :-)
[19:32] <Myrtti> I have only one more :-(
[19:34] <mneptok> OK, kids! that's all for me from an @canonical.com hostmask!
[19:34] <Pici> aww
[19:36] <Myrtti> awwww
[19:36]  * Myrtti feels nostalgic
[19:38] <ikonia> has mneptok left canonical ?
[19:38] <Pici> Yep.
[19:39] <ikonia> wow, any idea where he's going ?
[19:39] <jdong_> 14:25 < mneptok> hellocuckoo: as of Monday a MariaDB boilerman
[19:39] <Pici> ikonia: http://blogs.gnome.org/mneptok/2009/02/13/crew-reassignment/
[19:40] <ikonia> Pici: you are fountain of info 
[19:40] <jdong_> that's what sh... I mean...
[19:41] <ikonia> that's well written
[19:41] <ikonia> makes me chuckle
[19:41] <Myrtti> and that means mneptok will smuggle me some Kraft dinners!
[19:41] <Myrtti> ♥ 
[19:42] <Gary> nom nom nom
[19:42] <ikonia> Kraft dinners are terrence and Philips favourite
[19:56] <thomasdelbeke> Hi there
[19:56] <Myrtti> hello
[19:56] <Myrtti> how can we help you?
[19:56] <thomasdelbeke> I was banned 
[19:56] <Myrtti> @bansearch thomasdelbeke 
[19:56] <Myrtti> so I see
[19:56] <thomasdelbeke> from #ubuntu
[19:56] <Pici> You were flooding the channel.
[19:57] <thomasdelbeke> Why?
[19:57] <Pici> You were flooding the channel.
[19:57] <thomasdelbeke> When?
[19:57] <Pici> On January 24th
[19:57] <thomasdelbeke> You have that logged?
[19:57] <Pici> Yes.
[19:57] <Pici> You were saying 'bugs'
[19:57] <thomasdelbeke> Can I see?
[19:57] <thomasdelbeke> One word?
[19:58] <Pici> thomasdelbeke: http://paste.ubuntu.com/123966/
[19:58] <thomasdelbeke> How many repeats?
[19:58] <thomasdelbeke> How long?
[19:59] <Pici> thomasdelbeke: Its all there in that log
[19:59] <thomasdelbeke> ok looking
[19:59] <thomasdelbeke> that log is only 32 lines long
[19:59] <thomasdelbeke> I see 6 times bugs
[20:00] <Pici> So?
[20:00] <Seeker`> you joined, and said "bugs" a lot without any indication of saying anything else
[20:00] <Pici> Is there any reason to repeat it even just once?
[20:00] <thomasdelbeke> no
[20:00] <thomasdelbeke> I have no recollection of it
[20:01] <thomasdelbeke> I am opening firebird
[20:01] <thomasdelbeke> sunbird that is
[20:03] <thomasdelbeke> Hi 
[20:03] <thomasdelbeke> the time is what?
[20:04] <thomasdelbeke> Greenwhich?
[20:04] <thomasdelbeke> GMT
[20:04] <thomasdelbeke> ??
[20:04] <Pici> I think so.
[20:07] <thomasdelbeke> Hi there
[20:07] <thomasdelbeke> How do you know that was me?
[20:08] <Pici> Your name and hostmask match.
[20:08] <thomasdelbeke> hostmask
[20:08] <thomasdelbeke> that is IP address?
[20:08] <Pici> Essentially
[20:08] <thomasdelbeke> Are you sure then, it was from this pc?
[20:09] <thomasdelbeke> I do not see a possibility for a typo
[20:09] <Pici> thomasdelbeke!n=chatzill@cpc2-blfs5-0-0-cust168.belf.cable.ntl.com is the same information that shows up in /whois thomasdelbeke 
[20:09] <thomasdelbeke> so that would mean I was hacked?
[20:09] <Pici> It was either you or someone on your computer.
[20:10] <thomasdelbeke> ok
[20:10] <thomasdelbeke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irssi/+bug/327213
[20:11] <thomasdelbeke> This is a week later
[20:12] <thomasdelbeke> Could it be that such a thing occorred by faulty "/join #ubuntu bugs"
[20:12] <thomasdelbeke> from irssi terminal?
[20:12] <thomasdelbeke> a week earlier?
[20:12] <thomasdelbeke> just my guess
[20:13] <thomasdelbeke> opinion?
[20:13] <jdong_> generally when you paste a link, a combination of launchpad slowness and human slowness suggests waiting more than 10 seconds for a response :)
[20:13] <thomasdelbeke> oh
[20:14] <thomasdelbeke> sorry
[20:15] <Pici> I don't know.  From what I can see it doesn't look like you did it on purpose though.
[20:15] <thomasdelbeke> ok, so solution?
[20:16] <Pici> Be careful with irssi commands and you can rejoin #ubuntu
[20:17] <thomasdelbeke> ok, thanks a lot for that, I am glad I was not hacked, Saturday 24th Jan does not mean anything to me ...
[20:17] <thomasdelbeke> sorry and cu
[20:22] <ikonia> pop79 in ##linux bad mouthing ubuntu and trying to get +o in the channel
[20:22] <ikonia> which is what he was tying in #ubuntu/-ot/etc
[20:23] <Nafallo> ikonia: op me cause I'm lame! ? ;-)
[20:25] <ikonia> because I'm a kid
[20:27] <ikonia> 20:26  * pop79 wants to build his own linux distro
[20:27] <ikonia> how predictable
[20:31] <Myrtti> well he can't be unbanned if he's not going to stay here long enough
[20:31] <Myrtti> he just vanishes into thin air when someone is going to deal with him
[20:32] <ikonia> Myrtti: he's being a pain in rhel, ##linux - same old stuff
[20:32] <ikonia> "how can I get ops"
[20:32] <ikonia> etc etc
[20:32] <ikonia> "I want to build my own distro"
[20:32] <ikonia> borrowed script from panarchy - clearly
[20:34] <Pricey> pop79 rings bells
[20:34] <ikonia> Pricey: actually - now you mention it, I recall him from before his current stint
[20:47] <Myrtti> that was fairly painless
[20:48] <Moniker42> twss
[20:48]  * jdong_ smacks Moniker42 
[20:48] <jdong_> let the bot do it :)
[20:49] <Moniker42> you haven't brought that in here have you? :P
[20:49] <jdong_> That's what she said!
[20:49] <jdong_> but no.
[20:49] <Moniker42> :)
[20:49] <jdong_> I figured it could POSSIBLY be distracting
[20:49] <jdong_> especially as people are feeding it random crap
[20:49] <jdong_> it has grown a slight tendency to jump at random things
[20:49] <Myrtti> watch out T-REX_BUTTSECKS 
[20:52] <Myrtti> any news on the flash-nonfree?
[20:53]  * genii makes a fresh pot of coffee for everyone
[20:54] <Gary> eew coffee, no thanks, but beer??? :-)
[20:56] <genii> Gary: Too early yet in my day for beer....
[20:56]  * genii runs home from work, grabs Gary a beer, runs back, hands it to him
[20:56] <Gary> yay
[21:04]  * Myrtti yawns
[22:09]  * jussi01 waves and prods ikonia
[22:21] <Seeker`> hi jdong_ 
[22:21] <Seeker`> sorry 
[22:21] <Seeker`> jussi01: 
[22:27] <Myrtti> nini peeps
[22:29] <Seeker`> nini Myrtti 
[23:32] <Mez> any IRCC around for a private chat?
[23:57] <Pricey> I have no time to check them but will deal with them. Could someone check whether the floodbots are removing +e's after placing them still?
[23:57] <Pricey> And if not, why/when.
[23:58] <Seeker`> -23:14:44- ~s~ mode/#ubuntu [+e charliehorse!i=d8b9fc50@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-79d3f334ddbf2aa1] by FloodBot2
[23:58] <Seeker`> -23:35:53- ~s~ mode/#ubuntu [-e charliehorse!i=d8b9fc50@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-79d3f334ddbf2aa1] by FloodBot2
[23:58] <Seeker`> -23:53:52- ~s~ mode/#ubuntu [+e charliehorse!i=d8b9fc50@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db671942425d7612] by FloodBot2
[23:58] <Seeker`> -23:53:55- ~s~ mode/#ubuntu [-e charliehorse!i=d8b9fc50@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db671942425d7612] by FloodBot2