| kenny__ | How do I install bugzilla under ubuntu(8.10)? I have installed bugzilla3 with all dependencies (including mysql and apache2), hope I set the right db_user and db_pass in localconfig, but there is no http://localhost/bugzilla site. | 00:27 |
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| kenny__ | How do I tell the apache server to display the bugzilla pages under http://localhost/bugzilla? | 00:27 |
| roy_hobbs | How much does installing openafs-fileserver do for me in terms of getting AFS up and running? | 01:53 |
| Cyntek | im trying to upload photos,music,documents, and movies files onto a 300gb ext3 filesystem hard drive. Now i have created directories ie: /photos, /documents,....so forth. why is that when i transfer files to there parent directories they end up being in the other directories that were created? | 02:08 |
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| baz_ | hey, I am trying to re-install ubuntu on a machine that had a software RAID (ubuntu too). When do I re-assemble the RAID? Before install, during install or after install? | 03:39 |
| twb | baz_: IIRC it will recognize the existing md array during installation. | 03:50 |
| baz_ | twb, thanks i'll try it out... you're the only one who gave a suggestion in 6 channels :) | 04:13 |
| twb | "try it and see" is usually a good first attempt. | 04:14 |
| baz_ | twb, to be honest i am re-installing the desktop and i tried with livecd and even re-assembled using mdadm, but i wasn't sure if it was recognizing it or not... now u gave me confidence the alternate cd wwill work... | 04:16 |
| Cyntek | okay, i reformatted the second hard drive, i want to make it a file sharing for Windows machine, now I also would like to create directorys for individual file purposes, such as music to /music ...documents to /documents. get this working without each directory being a copy of one another. | 04:16 |
| twb | Oops, he should know that the live CD doesn't support software RAID. | 04:24 |
| twb | Cyntek: what I do is just make a filesystem and mount it on /srv, so that there is e.g. /srv/music and /srv/video | 04:25 |
| Cyntek | lol. | 04:25 |
| twb | Cyntek: if you want top-level directories (which I don't recommend, because it's messy), is either to create symlinks (sudo ln -s srv/video /) or to use -o bind to remount /srv/video also on /video. | 04:26 |
| twb | You probably don't want bind mounts. | 04:26 |
| Cyntek | twb, do you understand my problem? | 04:33 |
| VK7HSE-1 | :) | 05:22 |
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| llragsll | need to configure ubuntu gateway with one physical interface for two logical subnets | 07:52 |
| llragsll | I knkow tht this can be done using virtual if | 07:52 |
| llragsll | but how to route packets from one interface to other? | 07:52 |
| llragsll | anyone | 07:54 |
| llragsll | ?? | 07:54 |
| cemc | llragsll: you have to enable ip forwarding on the box | 08:03 |
| cemc | try this: | 08:04 |
| cemc | sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward | 08:04 |
| cemc | if it's 0 (zero), forwarding is not enabled | 08:05 |
| llragsll | oh...k | 08:06 |
| llragsll | let me explain | 08:07 |
| llragsll | this box has an ipsec tunnel to some other n/w's so i knoe tht fowarding is enabled | 08:07 |
| cemc | i see | 08:07 |
| llragsll | there are two n/w's .2 and .4 | 08:08 |
| llragsll | the .4 n/w is the LAn | 08:08 |
| llragsll | while I have the .2 n/w for the modem and the gateway only | 08:08 |
| llragsll | i hope you follow me.. | 08:08 |
| cemc | could you just copy-paste the ifconfig output? | 08:09 |
| llragsll | ok..jus a sec | 08:09 |
| mib_guvg4wqr | http://www.mibbit.com/url/99KWRT | 08:11 |
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| === llrags is now known as llragsll | ||
| cemc | not found | 08:11 |
| llragsll | grrrr | 08:12 |
| llragsll | http://www.mibbit.com/pb/LsBSAD | 08:12 |
| cemc | ok, I got it | 08:12 |
| llragsll | great... | 08:13 |
| cemc | go on | 08:13 |
| llragsll | the routes have been set too | 08:13 |
| cemc | (maybe copy-paste?) | 08:13 |
| llragsll | eth0:1 is the virtual interfac | 08:13 |
| llragsll | http://www.mibbit.com/pb/GVVqGe ..yes this is route | 08:14 |
| llragsll | the machines on .32 n/w can't access .24 resources | 08:15 |
| cemc | the machines on .32 need to know where .24 is | 08:16 |
| llragsll | .24 only consists of the my modem, consequently I can't access internet | 08:16 |
| cemc | they need to have 32.207 as gateway, | 08:16 |
| cemc | or you need to route network .24 on every machine to .24 | 08:16 |
| llragsll | but sine ubuntu is the gateway | 08:16 |
| llragsll | yes | 08:16 |
| cemc | to .24.207 i mean | 08:16 |
| llragsll | .207 is the gatewway | 08:16 |
| llragsll | .32.207 | 08:16 |
| cemc | and for .24 machines .24.207 is ? | 08:17 |
| llragsll | .24 only consis of my modem to the internaet | 08:17 |
| cemc | because they need to know too where .32 is | 08:17 |
| llragsll | .24 is only from the modem to the gateway | 08:17 |
| llragsll | hmm... | 08:18 |
| cemc | hm indeed :) | 08:18 |
| cemc | what resources are we talking about then ? :) | 08:18 |
| cemc | on .24 | 08:18 |
| llragsll | internet through the modem | 08:18 |
| llragsll | .24.1 is the default gatway/modem/WAA | 08:18 |
| llragsll | its like <.32>------<ubuntu gateway>-----<.24.1 modem>------<internet> | 08:19 |
| llragsll | the gateway has one physical interface..eth0...so i put a virtual interface eth0:1 on .24 n/w | 08:20 |
| llragsll | shouldn't the gatway route .24 packets to eth:0:1 interface? | 08:21 |
| cemc | the route output is from the ubuntu gateway ? | 08:22 |
| llragsll | yes | 08:22 |
| cemc | shouldn't the default gateway (last line) be 192.168.24.1 ? | 08:23 |
| cemc | instead of 32.1 | 08:23 |
| llragsll | well it is...or rather it was..I have reset the n/w now... | 08:23 |
| llragsll | everything is flat now | 08:23 |
| cemc | the ubuntu box's gateway should be 24.1 | 08:24 |
| llragsll | yes...got it.. | 08:24 |
| cemc | and all the machines gw in .32 should be 32.207 (the ubuntu box) | 08:24 |
| llragsll | are the routes correct? | 08:24 |
| cemc | well, there are no routes really, those are just the directly ocnnected stuff, because you have the IP addreses on eth0 | 08:25 |
| cemc | you do need one other thing tho | 08:25 |
| cemc | the 24.1 router should know about .32 too | 08:26 |
| llragsll | hmm...but how | 08:26 |
| llragsll | and Y? | 08:26 |
| llragsll | it will be getting the packets only from ubuntu | 08:26 |
| cemc | suppose you ping www.yahoo.com from .32.5 | 08:26 |
| cemc | the packet goes to 32.207 (ubuntu), | 08:27 |
| llragsll | k... | 08:27 |
| cemc | then it goes to .24.1, | 08:27 |
| cemc | then it goes out to yahoo, comes back (that if NAT is set up on the router :) ), | 08:27 |
| cemc | then 24.1 should send it back to the ubuntu box, | 08:27 |
| cemc | but it doesn't know that | 08:27 |
| cemc | if you don't tell it | 08:27 |
| llragsll | yes...NAT is setup.. | 08:28 |
| llragsll | oh...k..understood.. | 08:28 |
| cemc | there's one other thing | 08:28 |
| llragsll | now..how to accomplish tht? | 08:28 |
| cemc | well | 08:28 |
| cemc | you have to configure the router, if it's smart enough :) | 08:29 |
| llragsll | I hope it is... | 08:29 |
| llragsll | wht should I configure? | 08:29 |
| cemc | do you have ping from say .32.x to 24.1 ? | 08:29 |
| llragsll | I din try tht....I just open some sites to check | 08:30 |
| llragsll | but I can ping from the gateway | 08:30 |
| cemc | first try a ping from .32.x to 24.1 | 08:31 |
| llragsll | ok.. | 08:31 |
| llragsll | wht setticgs do I need to do on the router? | 08:31 |
| cemc | no idea, depends on the router... you have to add a static route, 192.168.32.0/24 -> 32.207 | 08:32 |
| cemc | ummm | 08:32 |
| cemc | 192.168.32.0/24 -> 24.207 | 08:32 |
| cemc | but how do you do that, it's up to you to find out :) | 08:33 |
| llragsll | ok...yes..I remeber seeing something like ttht | 08:33 |
| llragsll | yes tht's kool | 08:33 |
| llragsll | thx pal | 08:33 |
| cemc | btw, | 08:33 |
| cemc | .32 and .24 are on the same physical network, nright? | 08:33 |
| llragsll | yes...same n/w | 08:34 |
| cemc | why you need the ubuntu box ? | 08:34 |
| llragsll | we need it for squid and ipsec tunnel. | 08:34 |
| llragsll | I am segregating the iptraffic from LAN traffic | 08:35 |
| llragsll | all traffic on the .24 n/w will be WAN while .32 will be LAN | 08:35 |
| llragsll | The gateway is setup properly right. Is there anything on the gateway to be done?? | 08:37 |
| cemc | then you definitely want 2 NICs in that ubuntu boxc | 08:37 |
| cemc | one connected to .32 and one to .24 | 08:37 |
| llragsll | yes...tht's wht I told my manager. | 08:37 |
| cemc | what's one more NIC, like $1 ? :) | 08:37 |
| llragsll | :(...but we have to make do with wht we have | 08:38 |
| cemc | I would buy it myself ;) | 08:38 |
| llragsll | haha.... | 08:38 |
| cemc | that's not really separation if they're on the same n/w | 08:38 |
| cemc | I mean if I were you | 08:38 |
| cemc | I would get one | 08:38 |
| llragsll | ok..I'll run tht through my manager.. | 08:38 |
| llragsll | but this virtual interfaces...where are they useful then? | 08:39 |
| cemc | because nothing would stop one from setting a .24 ip on one of the .32 machines | 08:39 |
| cemc | and going directly through the router | 08:39 |
| llragsll | hmm...yes.. | 08:40 |
| llragsll | thx a grand dude... | 08:41 |
| cemc | so what you want is to really force the .32 machines to go through the ubuntu gateway | 08:41 |
| cemc | if you want to set up proxy, firewall and stuff | 08:41 |
| llragsll | yes...tht is the intent | 08:42 |
| cemc | you can do it with 1 NIC too, with VLANs, if your switch supports it | 08:42 |
| cemc | but that's a bit more complicated | 08:42 |
| _ruben | damn .. was just about to mention that :) | 08:43 |
| _ruben | the vlan thing ;) | 08:43 |
| cemc | ;) | 08:43 |
| _ruben | then again, if an extra nic is a problem, i doubt there's a switch in place that'd support vlans | 08:43 |
| cemc | yep :) that's what i was gonna say | 08:43 |
| llragsll | VLAN's..i'll have to look into tht | 08:43 |
| _ruben | stranger things have happened in the world though :) | 08:43 |
| cemc | llragsll: you want to look at your switch if it's with management (I mean ip address on it, interface to configure it, etc), and if it has VLAN support | 08:44 |
| cemc | but that's really not an ubuntu-server kinda topic ;) | 08:44 |
| llragsll | lemme chek if it has VLAN... | 08:45 |
| llragsll | but does this move evrything on the router? | 08:45 |
| cemc | and first you want to read up on all that so you know what you're doing ;) | 08:45 |
| cemc | move = ? | 08:45 |
| llragsll | i'll learn as I go...:P | 08:45 |
| llragsll | Gatway.. | 08:46 |
| llragsll | gateway | 08:46 |
| cemc | [10:45:29] <llragsll> but does this move evrything on the router? <- don't understand this question | 08:47 |
| llragsll | I meant doe this mean I won't be able to use the ubuntu server as a gateway | 08:48 |
| llragsll | since with a VLAN the n/w's will be configured at the router. | 08:48 |
| cemc | nope, it means you will be able to use the ubuntu as gateway as intended, with one NIC | 08:48 |
| cemc | but it really would be easier to get another NIC :) | 08:49 |
| cemc | trust me | 08:49 |
| llragsll | bad news is my router doesn't seem to have vlan support..but I can put in routes. :) | 08:49 |
| llragsll | yes...sure..I will get another NIC..for now this is just an intellectual pursuit...:) | 08:49 |
| cemc | the router doesn't need VLAN support | 08:50 |
| cemc | only your switch in which you have the ubuntu and machines connected | 08:50 |
| cemc | and of course ubuntu | 08:51 |
| llragsll | ok...haha..I know you are going to flip now...the modem is th switch/router everything | 08:52 |
| llragsll | all m/c's are physically connected to .32.1 | 08:53 |
| cemc | nice ;) | 08:54 |
| cemc | and what kind of router is it ? | 08:54 |
| cemc | name, model, something ? | 08:54 |
| llragsll | UTStar com | 08:56 |
| llragsll | its modem/router/switch | 08:56 |
| llragsll | got stuff to read then...thx for the help | 08:58 |
| llragsll | cheers | 08:58 |
| * llragsll leaves | 08:58 | |
| cemc | have fun :) | 08:58 |
| cemc | funny that it had like 1% to do with ubuntu ;) | 08:59 |
| dayo | how do i upgrade a single package on the server, i.e. squid? | 09:37 |
| _ruben | dayo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install quid | 09:41 |
| _ruben | s/quid/squid/ | 09:41 |
| _ruben | (install performs an upgrade when already installed) | 09:41 |
| dayo | _ruben: ok, trying that now. | 09:42 |
| PecisDarbs | hi people, where I can get information about when OpenLDAP record was created? | 09:49 |
| kraut | moin | 09:50 |
| dayo | _ruben: well, it says i already have the latest squid installed. thanks anyway :-) | 09:51 |
| dayo | kraut: moin moin | 09:51 |
| dennda | rkhunter reports several files like useradd have been changed recently. I did an update yesterday. Does rkhunter not take into account changes due to updates? | 10:37 |
| ivoks | no | 10:38 |
| ivoks | you have to update its database | 10:38 |
| dennda | how? | 10:39 |
| dennda | i tried rkhunter --update but that didn't show any updates | 10:39 |
| ivoks | that will update its database | 10:40 |
| dennda | well, it didn't :-) | 10:40 |
| ivoks | how do you know? | 10:40 |
| dennda | it said "no updates" and in the check i'm currently running it's still complaining about those files | 10:40 |
| ivoks | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/34625 | 10:41 |
| ivoks | you did run it as root? | 10:41 |
| dennda | yes | 10:43 |
| dennda | --check-version reports there is an update available though... 1.3.0 -> 1.3.4 | 10:44 |
| ivoks | that's irrelevant | 10:44 |
| dennda | ivoks: ok, understood; but I still didn't get how to update its database, since --update gives me "no updates found" | 10:45 |
| dennda | i do have wget, of course | 10:46 |
| ivoks | right... --update is something else | 10:48 |
| ivoks | --propupd is the right swtich | 10:49 |
| dennda | oh | 10:49 |
| dennda | overlooked that | 10:49 |
| dennda | silly switchname though | 10:49 |
| dennda | so lemme do a check again | 10:50 |
| dennda | ivoks: great that solved it. thanks | 10:54 |
| dennda | ivoks: you don't happen to know by heart how to tell rkhunter that it's normal that some functionality just doesn't exist? (like QM_MODULES for the kernel or such. it's always complaining) | 10:54 |
| ivoks | i never used it | 10:55 |
| dennda | ok | 10:56 |
| dennda | thanks | 10:56 |
| incorrect | is it possible to use dpkg-reconfigure package and supply it will the answers to the questions? | 11:00 |
| nomoa | hi, why is this in error : echo $((08%4)) ?? | 11:23 |
| nomoa | hmm, leading 0 indicates base 8 | 11:27 |
| salsa | hello. I cannot reboot the VM (ubuntu-server 8.04) on Xen (3.0.3) either shut it down using standard methods from console. Could you please comment. | 11:32 |
| salsa | opercod@rocserv:~$ sudo reboot -n | 11:33 |
| salsa | The system is going down for reboot NOW! | 11:33 |
| salsa | that's all what I get | 11:34 |
| _ruben | incorrect: use debconf-set-selections | 12:12 |
| incorrect | thanks! | 12:13 |
| Cyntek | is it possible to install an NTFS drive with data on it, and mount it on ubuntu-server ? | 14:24 |
| cemc | Cyntek: should be easy enough | 14:26 |
| _ruben | readonly is trivial .. read/write is still a bit tricky | 14:26 |
| Cyntek | ntfs-3g is default installed with ubuntu-server, right. | 14:27 |
| yann2 | sure? ntfs-3g has been considered production ready for a while | 14:27 |
| Cyntek | so it should detect the ntfs drive with data already installed. | 14:28 |
| Cyntek | when i do sudo fdisk -l i do see the drive, sdc1 | 14:29 |
| Cyntek | but it says its using the OnTrackDM6 under the System section ? | 14:29 |
| Cyntek | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System | 14:30 |
| Cyntek | /dev/sdc1 1 1023 8217243 54 OnTrackDM6 | 14:30 |
| dsmith-work | Cyntek: It should be safe enough to try and mount it read-only. | 14:41 |
| Cyntek | dsmith-work, k. but i just installed ntfs-config and it needs gtk+ gui, how do i remove it? | 14:42 |
| dsmith-work | How do you remove a package? "aptitude remove|purge" or whatever you like. | 14:45 |
| dsmith-work | s/remove|purge/{remove,purge}/ | 14:46 |
| Cyntek | i did sudo apt-get uninstall ntfs-config | 14:46 |
| Cyntek | did not work | 14:47 |
| dsmith-work | I think aptitude is a little smarter then apt-get about also removing dependencies. | 14:47 |
| dsmith-work | Cyntek: apt-get --help | 14:48 |
| Cyntek | i did it, sudo aptitude remove ntfs-config | 14:48 |
| Cyntek | and it gave me the following packages will be removed: | 14:49 |
| Cyntek | its removing it, now back to my issue. | 14:50 |
| Cyntek | dsmith-work, here is what fdisk shows: http://rafb.net/p/TSFBAs96.html | 14:52 |
| dsmith-work | So try something like mount -r -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 {somemoutpoint} | 14:54 |
| dsmith-work | and see if it complains | 14:54 |
| dsmith-work | Cyntek: The -r is read-only | 14:55 |
| Cyntek | k, i will try. | 15:00 |
| Cyntek | dsmith-work, it complained: http://rafb.net/p/t9GZHP84.html | 15:02 |
| dsmith-work | Ok. Then you can't mount it. | 15:03 |
| lorenzosu | Hi all. Anyone have experience about doing replicated installs of ubuntu desktop? | 15:03 |
| Cyntek | dsmith-work, can i change the Filesystem to some other than ntfs to ext3 without loosing any data? | 15:06 |
| _ruben | nope | 15:06 |
| Cyntek | shux. | 15:06 |
| oCean_ | Cyntek: you might find something useful here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=721937 | 15:08 |
| dsmith-work | Cyntek: googling for turned up this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385218&page=3 | 15:08 |
| Cyntek | i will take a look at it. | 15:08 |
| Cyntek | okay so how do i get into the bootloader and the option: sdc1=remap63 | 15:28 |
| Cyntek | dsmith-work, oCean_ how do i get into the bootloader to add the option? | 15:33 |
| oCean_ | Cyntek: I'm not sure if you see grub menu during startup, since you're on server, but I thinkg hitting 'esc' will get you in bootloader. I think it's option "e" to edit commandline arguments. | 15:37 |
| Cyntek | im able to get into the grub.menulist | 15:38 |
| Cyntek | http://rafb.net/p/UFVHQZ68.html | 15:38 |
| Cyntek | where do i this option: sdc1=remap63 | 15:38 |
| oCean_ | Cyntek: search in menu.lst for line starting #kopt | 15:40 |
| oCean_ | hm.. line is not there? Seems to be a bit diff from my (current) install, which is not server version. | 15:41 |
| oCean_ | anyway, during boot you'll have to option to add cmdline arg. | 15:42 |
| Cyntek | it boots straigt into login. | 15:43 |
| oCean_ | yeah, I think you have to press ESC immediately after startup, before it starts loading the kernel | 15:44 |
| Cyntek | i held it down right before i did the reboot, nothing. | 15:45 |
| Gargoyle | hello, everyone! | 15:53 |
| Cyntek | oCean_, i got it. | 15:54 |
| Cyntek | what part do i edit to add: sdc1=remap63 | 15:54 |
| oCean_ | Cyntek: aha. Hope it also solves the actual mount problem? | 15:54 |
| oCean_ | err.. I'm not sure... you are in the bootloader atm? | 15:55 |
| oCean_ | there should be some options like 'e' to edit and 'a' to append I thinkg | 15:55 |
| oCean_ | *think | 15:55 |
| axisys | how do net install an x2100 (sun hardware) ? | 16:03 |
| JanC | axisys: there is a page about net installs on the wiki, or is something special about the x2100 ? | 16:11 |
| axisys | JanC: i want to use PXE | 16:16 |
| JanC | axisys: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server%20and%20network%20installations ? | 16:17 |
| axisys | JanC: tnx | 16:18 |
| nealmcb | is there a convenient way to convert the x11 clipboard from unicode text to a reasonable ascii version? E.g. to copy/paste from a web page with smart quotes to an ascii-only terminal session or editor? | 16:20 |
| * nealmcb figures server-folks will know more about this than #ubuntu folks.... | 16:20 | |
| * nealmcb should have put "smart quotes" in quotes.... | 16:21 | |
| sbeattie | nealmcb: xclip? | 16:24 |
| nealmcb | sbeattie: thanks - I'll look at it | 16:32 |
| JanC | hm, did anybody else have problems with filesystems on a linux software raid not being mounted during boot after an upgrade from intrepid to jaunty? | 17:00 |
| nicetry | I'm trying to figure out which groups have which privlages, so I know which ones to join to new users I create. How do I go about finding out information about groups? | 17:25 |
| JanC | nicetry: did you try searching the docs/wiki? | 17:44 |
| nicetry | JanC: I did, I was having trouble finding the documentation for the default groups in ubuntu-server and what they were for, thats why I came here. | 17:48 |
| JanC | I'm not sure they are documented in one place, but you're right they should be ツ | 17:48 |
| nicetry | JanC: Right on, I wonder who should be informed about that. | 17:51 |
| JanC | maybe the documentation team? | 17:52 |
| nicetry | indeed | 17:53 |
| JanC | in the users & groups GUI some of them have a nice description, that might be a good starting point | 17:54 |
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| axisys | how do I define a different interface eth0:1 instead of default eth0 for dhcp daemon ? | 18:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #324212 in tomcat6 (main) "Tomcat 6 does not respect CATALINA_BASE/lib" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324212 | 18:46 |
| Vog-work | Bug:245532 | 18:46 |
| Vog-work | Has anyone found a work around for Bug 245532 | 18:47 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 245532 in lm-sensors "libsensors postinst fails on add/remove device entries" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245532 | 18:47 |
| giovani | although not ubuntu-specific, I was wondering if there's an accepted technique for finding the "path of dependency" for a package -- to find out why it's installed | 18:48 |
| === tew is now known as tewmten | ||
| axisys | i am getting " tftp: client does not accept options" while trying to net install a linux box | 19:29 |
| axisys | i followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#Basic: Hands-On Interactive Network Server Edition Install | 19:29 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #335581 in ubuntu "Ubuntu Server Install Fails with Dep Errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335581 | 19:52 |
| dsmith-work | giovani: Hmm. I don't know. I guess you can look at the intersection of installed packages and packages that depend on a certain package. That won't tell you what package pulled it in though. I think aptitude keeps track of that information somewhere though. | 19:56 |
| Ethos | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=986689&highlight=mssql | 19:56 |
| Ethos | anyone played with that before? | 19:57 |
| Ethos | will the first post work... | 19:57 |
| poshvin | Did any one install Dlink DWA 520 (wifi) card on UBUNTU 8.04( Hurdy ...) | 20:00 |
| giovani | dsmith-work: yeah, I was worried it might be that manual of a process -- I've got an ubuntu jaunty alpha 5 server install, and was wondering why x11-common was installed | 20:04 |
| dsmith-work | giovani: Well, aptitude seems to know, so there may be a way of convincing it to tell. | 20:06 |
| giovani | dsmith-work: indeed there is "aptitude why PACKAGENAME" | 20:07 |
| giovani | although it doesn't do the entire chain | 20:08 |
| giovani | just one level up | 20:08 |
| giovani | x11-common is depended on by xauth ... but, xauth is not depended on by anything I have, just recommended by openssh-server, and I don't think I'd need xauth when there's no X :) | 20:09 |
| giovani | odd indeed | 20:09 |
| JanC | giovani: recommends are treated as dependencies by default? | 20:13 |
| giovani | JanC: I was not aware of that ... thanks for the info -- mystery solved :0 | 20:14 |
| giovani | :)* | 20:14 |
| ScottK | Reccommends are installed by default, not treated as recommends. | 20:14 |
| ScottK | openssh-server recommending xauth seems overkill to me. | 20:15 |
| giovani | is there a switch somewhere for apt-get to disable that behavior | 20:15 |
| giovani | ? | 20:15 |
| JanC | ScottK: yeah, that's what I mean | 20:15 |
| ScottK | There is. I don't recall the exact syntax. | 20:16 |
| giovani | it's --no-install-recommends it appears -- too bad there isn't a shorter version | 20:16 |
| Ethos | can install php5-dev mess up a current php install? | 20:17 |
| JanC | giovani: there is a way to put it in an apt config file too | 20:17 |
| drbobb | hello, i'm still having trouble with one of my servers, grub is refusing to boot from the hdd | 20:18 |
| giovani | JanC: indeed APT::Install-Recommends "0" ; | 20:18 |
| giovani | does it | 20:18 |
| giovani | whoops | 20:18 |
| drbobb | the machine has a single hdd that is identified as /dev/sda | 20:19 |
| drbobb | but under an old red hat it was seen as /dev/hde | 20:20 |
| drbobb | until now i have managed to boot via a grub floppy | 20:22 |
| drbobb | but when i try booting from hdd grub seems unable to locate stage1.5 | 20:23 |
| giovani | yeah, you'll need to edit /boot/grub/device.map I think | 20:23 |
| drbobb | nope | 20:23 |
| giovani | and set hd0 to the correct device | 20:23 |
| JanC | and then install grub again | 20:23 |
| drbobb | hd0 is /dev/sda | 20:24 |
| drbobb | there is no other hard drive on the system | 20:24 |
| giovani | then grub probably needs to be reinstalled, yea | 20:24 |
| drbobb | i already did that | 20:24 |
| drbobb | but nothing changed | 20:24 |
| giovani | how did you reinstall grub? | 20:25 |
| drbobb | grub-install hdo | 20:25 |
| giovani | uh | 20:25 |
| giovani | it needs to be grub-install /dev/sda | 20:25 |
| dsmith-work | giovani: Cool. good to know about aptitude | 20:25 |
| drbobb | but device.map says | 20:26 |
| drbobb | (hdo) /dev/sda | 20:26 |
| giovani | first of all, it's not supposed to be hdo | 20:26 |
| giovani | it's supposed to be hd0 | 20:26 |
| giovani | (zero verus oh) | 20:26 |
| drbobb | hd0 | 20:26 |
| giovani | second of all ... grub-install is reinstalling grub ... it's not reading device.map | 20:27 |
| giovani | only grub reads device.map | 20:27 |
| drbobb | did i write h-d-oh? | 20:27 |
| drbobb | sorry | 20:27 |
| giovani | yes, twice | 20:27 |
| drbobb | my bad | 20:27 |
| giovani | but, you need to install grub with grub-install /dev/sda | 20:27 |
| drbobb | at the command line i didn't | 20:27 |
| giovani | I assure you, you do not use hdX for grub-install | 20:27 |
| drbobb | man grub-install thinks otherwise | 20:27 |
| giovani | you're not booted inside of the OS | 20:28 |
| giovani | you're booted off recovery media | 20:28 |
| giovani | which doesn't have the device.map | 20:28 |
| giovani | please run grub-install /dev/sda | 20:28 |
| drbobb | wrong assumption | 20:28 |
| drbobb | i was inside the os | 20:29 |
| drbobb | but i'll try it anyway, although as per the docs it should make no difference | 20:29 |
| drbobb | actually what i did was, i made a grub boot floppy | 20:30 |
| drbobb | loaded the grub from there, and booted linux from the grub command line | 20:31 |
| giovani | if it really doesn't work after that, maybe #grub can help | 20:33 |
| drbobb | btw grub was originally installed on the hdd by the ubuntu-server installer | 20:35 |
| drbobb | and i really wonder why didn't it work | 20:35 |
| drbobb | with a single hard drive on the system, it's hard to see what could go wrong | 20:36 |
| giovani | sounds like either something was done incorrectly manually, or possibly the drive is corrupt | 20:36 |
| giovani | you did say it had old redhat on it at one point, right? how old is the drive? | 20:37 |
| drbobb | hmmm it's 200GB and SATA, so it can't be all that old | 20:37 |
| simonp | there's no ubuntu kernel with vserver support, right? | 20:39 |
| drbobb | model # is ST3200822AS in case that tells you anything | 20:40 |
| MatBoy | does anyone know a good postfix/dovecot + mysql howto ? I can't get this working 100% under ubuntu | 20:41 |
| giovani | simonp: an official one? not that I know of -- but there's a debian/ubuntu repository with a vserver kernel | 20:41 |
| drbobb | the controller is identified as SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (by lshw) | 20:42 |
| giovani | drbobb: ask in #grub ... it's unlikely it's a corrupted drive if it's that new | 20:42 |
| cemc | drbobb: did you try reinstalling grub from the grub cli ? | 20:42 |
| giovani | MatBoy: might be best asked in #postfix or #dovecot, no? | 20:43 |
| cemc | grub> root (hd0,x) | 20:43 |
| giovani | depending on how you're doing auth | 20:43 |
| cemc | grub> setup (hd0) | 20:43 |
| cemc | where hd0,x is the root partition-1 | 20:43 |
| drbobb | uh i believe you mean /boot partition rather than root partition | 20:44 |
| giovani | MatBoy: but google's first hit was http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/04/15/mail-server-howto-postfix-and-dovecot-with-mysql-and-tlsssl-postgrey-and-dspam/ -- that might be helpful | 20:44 |
| cemc | drbobb: umm... if you have /boot separat, then yeah | 20:44 |
| MatBoy | giovani: I used that one... doesn't work quite well | 20:44 |
| drbobb | yes i do, the rest of the drive is under LVM | 20:44 |
| cemc | but who needs that nowadays? :) | 20:44 |
| cemc | I see | 20:44 |
| giovani | MatBoy: well, following something line-for-line is rarely going to work | 20:44 |
| giovani | MatBoy: if you have specific problems, I'd ask where it's most relevant -- in #postfix or #dovecot | 20:45 |
| drbobb | ok will try that | 20:45 |
| giovani | cemc: umm, everyone? | 20:45 |
| cemc | drbobb: try running 'grub', and installing it from there | 20:45 |
| MatBoy | giovani: no, I mean... there are some issues with that setup that I have seen also with other docs and tut using the same kind of way | 20:45 |
| giovani | MatBoy: ok ... but once again ... don't you think #postfix and #dovecot are most relevant to this? | 20:46 |
| drbobb | btw seems not a bad machine altogether, though i was surprised that a 2.8GHz Xeon can lack 64bit mode | 20:47 |
| MatBoy | giovani: yep... but not very helpfuill at the moment.. most of the time ubuntu users make good docs and tuts to ripp stuff out :) | 20:47 |
| cemc | MatBoy: what's error message? :) | 20:47 |
| cemc | what's the* error message rather | 20:47 |
| giovani | MatBoy: well ... I think you're not going to get what you want here, so, good luck | 20:47 |
| MatBoy | giovani: it's always good to try :) | 20:48 |
| giovani | better to try in the right place | 20:48 |
| MatBoy | the ubuntu community is very creative ! | 20:48 |
| MatBoy | yes, I'm there, worked last night on it with the guys | 20:48 |
| giovani | just looking at the official documentation | 20:48 |
| giovani | it's pretty straightforward | 20:49 |
| giovani | I recommend you look at it | 20:49 |
| cemc | MatBoy: still don't see the problem described ;) | 20:50 |
| MatBoy | yep.. but last night taht was kinda difficult :P | 20:50 |
| cemc | which part doesn't work ? | 20:50 |
| giovani | cemc: because he doesn't appear to have a specific problem ... he wants something to hold his hand | 20:50 |
| MatBoy | cemc: nah, it does not do what it supposed to when I install it normally... but I'm busy on it.. making some prgress :D | 20:50 |
| MatBoy | giovani: what kind of weird thing is that ? | 20:50 |
| MatBoy | giovani: did you had a bad day where you needed that hand yourself ? | 20:51 |
| MatBoy | man... relax ! | 20:51 |
| giovani | I can't even follow what you're saying now | 20:51 |
| MatBoy | giovani: indeed... that is your issue :) | 20:51 |
| MatBoy | cemc: following a lot of docs, some stuff needs to be configured in several ways... but none work... and paths are most of teh time different too.. so I was looking for some reference ! | 20:52 |
| * giovani goes back to the wonderful world of grammatically correct sentences | 20:52 | |
| cemc | MatBoy: ok. which part doesn't work exactly? and what's your setup ? | 20:52 |
| cemc | do you have some errors in the log ? | 20:52 |
| cemc | anything useful? | 20:52 |
| * MatBoy goes back to the real ubuntu world... don't nitpcik.. just help ;) | 20:52 | |
| cemc | hard to help without a real exact problem description | 20:53 |
| cemc | khm.. | 20:53 |
| MatBoy | cemc: I didn't mean you :) | 20:53 |
| MatBoy | cemc: I'm busy with some mods.. will let you know where I end up | 20:53 |
| drbobb | hey while i'm here lemme ask a silly one | 20:53 |
| cemc | MatBoy: ok | 20:53 |
| drbobb | years ago i was using debian and spent some time dicking around with compiling the kernel with many different options | 20:54 |
| drbobb | and one thing i discovered was that if i compiled in the framebuffer console, i could choose a console font that looked just like the one on sun sparc machines | 20:55 |
| drbobb | is it still possible to do that? | 20:56 |
| giovani | sure | 20:56 |
| drbobb | can i have that on ubuntu without a kernel recompile? | 20:57 |
| giovani | drbobb: I don't think that framebuffer support is built into the ubuntu server kernel; it is into the desktop kernel | 20:59 |
| drbobb | and btw what is the kosher way to configure text console resolution & fonts on ubuntu? | 21:00 |
| giovani | just passing kernel fb commands afaik | 21:00 |
| giovani | although on the desktop install, you'd need to modify the usplash settings probably | 21:00 |
| drbobb | CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=m | 21:01 |
| drbobb | found by grepping the config-2.6.24-23-server | 21:01 |
| drbobb | but it seems the more fancy fonts were left out.. | 21:03 |
| drbobb | (# CONFIG_FONTS is not set) | 21:03 |
| MatBoy | cemc: for sure is that my pipe between postfix and dovecot does not work ok for delivering | 21:04 |
| simonp | what happened to u32.net? | 21:04 |
| giovani | simonp: what was/is it? | 21:05 |
| simonp | vserver repositories ; ) | 21:06 |
| giovani | ah, mystr be out of date | 21:06 |
| giovani | must* | 21:06 |
| ScottK | mathiaz: Some of the django stuff you promised in the blog FTBFS, so unless it's fixed, it won't actually be included. | 21:06 |
| axisys | do I setup the server to install security updates automatically or should I setup apticron to get email alerts? | 22:17 |
| axisys | whats the popular path people take? | 22:17 |
| axisys | i guess i can revisit this question even after the server installation completes? if yes, how ? | 22:18 |
| axisys | i just inserted a second disk .. do I need to reboot to see the seocnd disk? | 22:41 |
| axisys | I am getting this http://pastebin.com/f42c0d114 | 22:42 |
| giovani | axisys: what do you mean "second disk"? | 23:02 |
| giovani | and nobody in the right mind (imo) uses automatic updates on a server | 23:03 |
| MrSillypants | Agreed about automatic updates | 23:04 |
| giovani | s/the/their/ | 23:05 |
| JanC | giovani: unless you have your own repository with tested packages and a whole bunch of identical servers maybe | 23:10 |
| giovani | JanC: I think that explanation is out of the scope of what axisys was asking :) | 23:11 |
| giovani | but yes, that'd be an entirely different situation | 23:11 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #335556 in liferea (universe) "liferea-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in _nss_wins_gethostbyname_r() (dup-of: 286119)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335556 | 23:25 |
| drbobb | ok so i figured out how to load the fbcon on top of the framebuffer driver for my card, how to set a resolution and how to load a font with consolechars | 23:51 |
| drbobb | unfortunately there seems to be nothing similar to the sparc console font that can be used in this fashion | 23:53 |
| drbobb | it needs to be compiled in, probably by setting config FONT_SUN12x22 in the kernel | 23:53 |
| Brucey | how can i view the date of a backup file? | 23:58 |
| Brucey | or when was the file created | 23:58 |
| milligan_ | I have a perl process dominating my cpu usage, but it's being executed by www-data. How can I figure out what file is being run?. Checking ps auxw, I find the process like this: www-data 17373 99.5 0.4 4696 2444 ? R Feb19 11872:44 /usr/sbin/apache/log <- That file doesn't exist though. Is this some kind of bug, or do I have a user trying to mess with the system ? | 23:58 |
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