[00:28] How do I install bugzilla under ubuntu(8.10)? I have installed bugzilla3 with all dependencies (including mysql and apache2), hope I set the right db_user and db_pass in localconfig, but there is no http://localhost/bugzilla site. [00:28] How do I tell the apache server to display the bugzilla pages under http://localhost/bugzilla? [00:31] how do you change the defualt text editor? [00:31] EDITOR=editor [00:31] echo $EDITOR [00:32] hmm [00:33] looks like the alpha 5 directory was just created [00:36] Yes, we are trying to release tonight, still [01:19] what is the programming languages that the it calc use ? [01:19] it calculators [01:48] Alpha 5 released, please read the release notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha5 [03:12] If I am planning to install an ubuntu flavour on my eeePC 1000H using Wubi, should I use ubuntu, or xubuntu (or even kubuntu) [03:13] Xubuntu would do well [03:13] Ive read that the DE is faster, so perhaps better for the eee [03:14] are there any real disadvangates to xubuntu? [03:18] perhaps harder to connect to windows shares that ubuntu [03:18] s/that/than [03:20] Im going to be dual booting XP as well, so that isn't too bad.... [03:20] It's the only one I can think of [03:24] thanks for your help [03:24] np; come back if you need more help [03:24] last time I use ubuntu or a variant Breezy in beta..... [03:24] :_p [03:24] :-P [03:25] s/in/was in/ [03:25] I started with the one before Breezy [03:25] Hoary? [03:25] Upgraded when Breezy came out and haven't stopped [03:25] yea, I used that, and upgraded to the first beta of breezy [03:25] Yeah, Hoary. Didn't know the name back then. Just know the number [03:26] 5.04, right [03:26] Still have the cd [03:26] I went from linux -> mac just as Dapper Drake was coming out [03:26] Nothing wrong with mac [03:27] nope [03:27] nothing wrong with linux either [03:27] there is something wrong with mac [03:27] no sloppy focus :) [03:27] something badly wrong with windows though [03:27] agreed. [03:27] even windows has sloppy focus, kind of [03:27] but not poor ol' mac ;) [04:03] !weather AD, UAE [04:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about weather AD, UAE [04:03] oh i'm sorry [04:16] In windows you have your task manager, how can I get to something similar to that in xubuntu to terminate a program? [04:17] is there a jaunty xubuntu release for PS3? [04:17] diginux: that' [04:17] diginux: that's one thing I miss about X11: no sloppy focus :( [04:18] DaGr8Gatzby: i wouldnt be able to work without sloppy focus [04:18] ZeRo_FeniX, try alt+F2 and type xkill [04:18] then click on the prog. you want to die\ [04:19] right click to opt out of killing something [04:19] wonderful worked like a charm [04:19] Firefox keeps spazzing out on me with flash player. [04:20] But now I can't re-open firefox because it says that it is still open :x [04:20] killall -99 mozilla-firefox [04:20] zenrox, [04:21] ever figure out what the hell keeps buggin out? [04:21] or, killall firefox [04:21] * s1amson works on my box [04:22] killall firefox did it. [04:22] thank you much [04:26] ZeRo_FeniX: run gnome-system-monitor for a task manager [04:26] alright [04:58] Hey i got a question... [04:59] I connect to the internet through my wireless wlan0 interface...but how do i mount my windows computer connect through ethernet eth0 interface? [05:00] !ics [05:00] If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php [05:02] why do my panels keep disappearing every time I shut down? It's kinda frustrating going back and turning them on every time I boot up. [05:02] i don't really wanna share my internet connection...i get internet through my neighbor's wireless and i want to share files with my computer through ehternet...if i connect to MY wireless node, everything is already setup and /mtn/xpdrv/c/ shows up and stuff...but how do i get that without connecting to it as my internet connection? [05:07] Any ideas on keeping my panals from disappearing? [05:08] make sure you check 'save session' when you shut down next time [05:09] G-Bleezy: the ics docs describe many of the steps you will need to do. You need to do pretty much everything except the actually sharing [05:09] oh ok [05:09] really though, you are probably making things too complicated... [05:18] hmm [05:19] see if i switch to my wireless lan then my windows box shows up as 192.168.1.3....but when im connected to my neighbor's wireless and hardwired in to my lan, 192.168.1.3 is different... [05:23] you are not going to be able to have the same subnet (192.168.1.0/24) on both interfaces... [05:24] ya that is fine...so how do i know what it is for both? [05:43] in gnome nautilus allows me to mount my ntfs drive by clicking on it's icon (957 Gb) media or what not. I want to know the script/command nautilus executes so I can do it in XFCE? Can anyone help me with that? [05:45] plazia: will thunar do it? [05:45] diginux, don't think so [05:45] it shows my removable usb drives automounted [05:45] but not the internal ide/sata ones. [05:46] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 [05:47] ntfs-3g may be in normal repos now [05:48] diginux, thanks I'll take a look at the link [05:51] !ntfs [05:51] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [05:53] thanks also zoredache === land is now known as jamesHowlet === Sinister` is now known as Sinister === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [07:25] how do I start xfce from a command prompt? [07:43] ZeRo_FeniX_: try startxfce4 === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [09:56] <_Pete_> !vnc [09:56] VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX [10:37] So I have installed xubuntu on my eeePC, but I have a problem. THe resolution of the eee is 1024x600. some windows are taller than the 600px, so I cant hit the buttons at the bottom of any wireless network setup windows for example [10:37] and I cant resize the window smaller [10:37] argh [10:38] cmrn, you can drag the window by holding Alt and clicking on it [10:38] Or press Alt+F10 to maximise the window [10:40] any way to make the whole UI smaller? [10:40] so I dont have to do that all the time? [10:41] Well, you can resize it, I suppose... Which app is it? [10:41] hi [10:41] Network COnnections window for example [10:41] !hi [10:41] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [10:42] thank you [10:42] ahh its letting me resize it now [10:42] Cool :) [10:42] (I didn't think that one was too large) [10:42] from the bottom corners work [10:42] top corners not so much [10:42] Good [10:42] im using ubuntu and i would like to know what would be better to try xfce.. to install xubuntu-desktop on terminal.. or to install xfce using synaptic? [10:42] Odd, but I suppose the bottom corners is enough... [10:42] that alt key sure is handy [10:42] cmrn, hell yeah it is :) [10:43] victoria, Synaptic or apt-get (on the terminal) doesn't really matter... The question is what would be better, Xfce or Xubuntu [10:43] I'd say Xubuntu [10:43] why vinnl? [10:44] but the problem is that i like vanilla xfce and seems that xubuntu is different i dont know [10:44] how can i have vanilla xfce by default? [10:44] session i mean.. [10:44] i will not delete gnome.. i just want vanilla xfce as a second option [10:44] Xubuntu includes all of Xfce (otherwise you'd have to manually select packages) and integrates it nicely with the rest, providing sane settings and apps you might need [10:44] vinnl: an exapmle of a too big window would be the window when editing a wireless connection [10:45] Also, you can remove Xubuntu if you don't like it using http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome [10:45] vinnl: does xubuntu has the vanilla xfce option? [10:46] cmrn, I only get a height of 577px for that window [10:46] Oh yeah, I see, you only have 600px [10:46] victoria, well, why would you want that? [10:46] (You can, but it's quite some work to single out the correct packages) [10:47] vinnl: i like the looking [10:47] victoria, ah [10:47] You can just change Xfce's preferences to quit your liking [10:47] It's really easy to remove the top panel and to set the bottom panel larger and not cover the full width, I suppose that's about all you'd want to do [10:48] There's no way to do that automatically yet though [10:51] it seems the easier way is to install the [10:51] meta package [10:51] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/xfce4 [10:51] :( [10:51] that sound hard lol [10:52] Well, it's just changing some settings.... It's really not that difficult [10:52] Wait, I wrote a blog post on reordering panels, I believe [10:53] ok [10:53] vinnl if i install the xubuntu-desktop [10:53] Here, you'll only need the first part of the Panels section: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44/ [10:53] victoria, yes? [10:53] i will lost gnome? [10:54] Nope, Xubuntu will be installed in addition to GNOME and you can choose which one you want to use in the login window [10:54] Btw, you _could_ also download a LiveCD of Xubuntu and see what it looks like that way :) [10:54] (Or a LiveCD of another Xfce-based distribution) [10:56] yeah [10:56] honestly does it feel a lot of difference in speed [10:56] comparing to gnome? [10:57] Well, I haven't really used GNOME intensively for a while, and I've slowed my Xfce down quite a lot... Furthermore, this would also depend on your computer. If it's really fast, then using GNOME or Xfce wono't matter that much speed-wise [10:58] victoria, come difference. [10:59] i see [10:59] why you had slowed your xfce? [10:59] how? [10:59] haha [11:00] Using a heavy theme, installing Compiz, and installing a lot of cruft in general ;-) [11:01] haha [11:01] i read that the faster and good looking at the same time is [11:01] e17 but its not stable [11:01] so i dont want to mess with that:) [11:02] Well, good-looking is, of course, a matter of taste... [11:04] yes [11:05] well i have osx leopard so i dont have problems with good looking:) [11:05] actually i play with linux just to learn [11:05] but of course i want it be good looking as well :) [11:08] ^.^ [11:09] hi vinnl. [11:09] Hey knome :) [11:09] i see you partly-retired from xubuntu blogging [11:10] knome, yeah, life is kicking in, but I haven't officially quit :) [11:10] yeah. [11:10] And I see Xfce 4.6 has been released (yeah I'm late), so I might need to force myself to do some blogging [11:10] you could change the logo on your blog if you want. [11:10] And I would've done if I had managed to run Jaunty from my USB drive, but I haven't... [11:10] To what? [11:11] to the current xubuntu logo [11:11] Has it changed? [11:11] yep. [11:11] To what? :) [11:11] http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/logo/ [11:11] basically the same [11:11] but a better looking one [11:12] compare your to the xubuntu.org one :) [11:12] Ah :) (and of course, better-looking is a matter of taste :P) [11:12] sure. [11:12] Ah true [11:12] what do you think? :) [11:12] I suppose I'll change it :) [11:12] \o/ [11:17] Oh, 4.6 was only released this morning :). I suppose I'll write a blog post on that then [11:18] :) [11:58] hi there [11:58] !hi [11:58] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [11:59] hi vinni [11:59] hello, how can i download xgl package? [11:59] I need help setting permissions on an external hard drive [12:00] xiq, the XGL project was discontinued by Novell, IIRC [12:00] Go|2T, to what? [12:01] setting permissions on an external hard drive [12:01] Yeah, but to what do you want to set the permissions? [12:01] so I can read and write to the hard drive [12:02] I take it you can only read now? Even when you're browsing as root? [12:02] no, I can`t even see the files [12:02] oh no [12:02] how can i use compiz fusion then [12:03] all I see is the lost+found folder [12:03] xiq, that depends on your graphics card... There's only a few cards that really need XGL, I believe [12:03] xiq, there's an app called Compiz-Check that can check whether you can run Compiz [12:03] Go|2T, hmm, that's odd... [12:05] if I go to the permissions tab it shows owner 500 [12:15] vinnl: thank you :D [12:15] yw :) [12:21] this is the drive ... /dev/sdc [12:27] hmmm [12:29] hmmm to you too [12:31] hi Sidi [12:32] hi hi :P [12:33] I need help to set permissions on an external hard drive [12:36] is there a universal setting for font size? [12:38] vidd: its 18px by default on the web, if i remember well [12:39] 11points by default on most printed documents, too [12:40] I need help to set permissions on an external hard drive, can someone help please [12:41] Go|2T, what have you done so far? [12:42] the drive is mounted [12:42] what is it mounted as? [12:42] all I see is a folder called lost+found [12:43] what command did you use to mount the drive? [12:43] or did you "just plug it in"? [12:44] I mounted it with the icon on the desktop [12:44] ok...so you "just plugged it in" and clicked an icon on the desktop? [12:44] yes [12:45] ok.... [12:45] open a terminal [12:45] ok [12:45] ***dangerous command...use with caution**** open thunar with root permissions with "sudo thunar" [12:46] ok got that [12:46] navigate to that drive [12:46] ok [12:46] do you see it in thunar? [12:46] yes [12:47] do you see more then just the lost&found? [12:47] let me look [12:47] yes I do [12:47] ok.... [12:48] let me look up some stuf.... [12:48] ok, thank you [12:48] close this thunar as you dont want a "god rights" app just sitting open waiting for an error =] [12:49] ok [12:51] can you pastebin your /etc/fstab for me? [12:51] !paste [12:51] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [12:51] I`ll try [12:53] what is the correct command for that [12:54] first, you want to open it in a text editor, then copy/paste it to pastebin [12:54] "sudo mousepad /etc/fstab" should do nicely [12:54] then select all, copy, paste [12:54] I'd say just "mousepad /etc/fstab" as well [12:55] vinnl, if we need to edit it we need root permissions [12:56] Oh I thought he just needed to paste it :) [12:56] i havent seen it yet =] [12:58] did it show up [12:58] once you post it, you need to copy the url from the address bar and paste it here [12:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/123781/ [13:01] you can close the fstab..... [13:01] ok, closed it [13:01] when you plugged this drive in.... [13:01] yes [13:01] did the icon show up? [13:02] I`m not sure if it did [13:02] lets unplug it [13:02] ok [13:02] does the icon go away? [13:02] hang on [13:04] yes the icon went away [13:04] ok....where did this external drive come from? [13:05] was it written to from another linux machine? [13:05] it was written to from a linux machinme [13:06] what user ID wrote the data? [13:06] me [13:06] for example.... [13:06] root is user id 0 [13:06] the "default original" user in ubuntu-based linux is 1000 (i beleive) [13:07] the second user is UID 1001 [13:07] third user is UID 1002 ...etc [13:07] what UID were you on that other machine? [13:07] If I go to properties it shows owner 500\ [13:08] hehehe [13:08] let me show you how to create a UID alias..... [13:08] ok [13:10] ***dangerous code...use with caution*** in terminal, type "sudo mousepad /etc/passwd" (this opens the passwd file with root access) [13:10] ***dangerous code...use with caution*** scan the file to see if there is a UID 500 already [13:11] ***dangerous code...use with caution*** if not, copy the line for your user and paste it in a new line [13:12] errrrrrrr [13:12] isnt it said to NEVER NEVER NEVER (NEVER) modify /etc/passwd manually ? [13:12] ***dangerous code...use with caution*** change the UID to 500, change the user name and save [13:12] SiDi, please note the ***dangerous code...use with caution*** tag on each line? [13:13] Well, i'd been told this should always be done via useradd and usermod [13:13] because it can corrupt the /etc/passwd file [13:13] SiDi, i have don this a hundred times myself [13:13] damn [13:13] my teachers lied :( [13:13] if not done correctly, it CAN corrupt the /etc/passwd file [13:13] well nevermind then, sorry for interrupting :p [13:14] what do you mean by change the user name.. do I change my name [13:14] SiDi, besides...shadow is the REALLY nasty file to mess up [13:15] Go|2T, for the user 500, yes...for the user 1000, no [13:15] you lost me there [13:16] we are making two identical entries [13:16] yep one is a 500 , one a 1000 [13:16] lets say your uid 1000 name is "jon" [13:16] ok [13:17] make the uid 500 name something like jon2 [13:17] ok [13:17] now save and exit [13:17] ok [13:18] its not saving [13:18] the properties for that file should now say the owner is "jon2"(or whatever you named it [13:18] what does it say? [13:19] its not saying anything [13:19] when you opened it, did you use sudo? [13:20] its saying psswrd already exists overwrite it [13:20] lets name this passwd-test [13:20] ok [13:20] (i forgot to have you make a back-up) [13:21] I made it passwd-test.. it closed ok [13:21] in your mousepad, click file>open [13:21] belay that... [13:22] open /etc/passwrd again [13:22] its open [13:22] make no changes and save as passwd.bak [13:23] ok did that [13:23] now open passwd-test and save as passwd [13:23] overwrite [13:23] ok [13:24] now lets check the properties of that folder.... [13:24] who owns it now? [13:24] it should be the new user you created [13:24] Does someone know if xfce 1.6 will make it in xubuntu 9.04? [13:25] DaDa|Urka, the latest and greatest is planned to be added [13:25] ok [13:25] me 2 [13:25] yep, thats it [13:25] ok.... [13:26] lol [13:26] vidd : u swear? :D [13:26] but I still can`t get in the lost+found folder [13:26] Go|2T, we are not done yet [13:27] ok [13:27] we need to edit the /etc/group file [13:27] ok [13:29] ok what command is that [13:29] sudo mousepad /etc/group [13:30] ok its open [13:30] So, are we going to see 4.6 in 9.04? [13:32] etc/group is open [13:33] I'm still waiting for my PS3 port [13:33] :) [13:33] on the last line put the following "[new-user]:x:500:[old-user]" where [new-user] = the new user and [old-user] = the orginal username [13:34] ok [13:35] sorry Go|2T another user was chastising me for telling you to use sudo instead of gksudo [13:36] so new user would be say fred2:x:500:fred [13:36] yes [13:37] is that all I need to put there [13:37] yep...save and overwrite [13:37] ok [13:38] now see if you can view those files [13:38] hello [13:38] i have xubuntu 8.04. if i want to upgrade to xfce 4.6 i just download xfce and goodies .run files and install first xfce and then goodies? [13:39] nope [13:39] hrm.... [13:39] still shows 500 [13:39] wil this drive be "reconnecting to the other system? [13:40] no [13:40] ok...lets undo what we just did.... [13:40] ok [13:40] edit /etc/group first to remove that last line [13:41] then, open passwd.bak and save as /etc/passwd [13:42] remember to use root permissions (sudo or gksudo) [13:42] Ben_Cs: what version is reported when you enter xubuntu_desktop [13:42] ? [13:42] oh wait [13:42] n/m :( [13:43] Go|2T, get in the habit of using gksudo with GUI apps [13:43] ok so what do I type then [13:44] gksu mousepad /etc/group [13:44] I did group already [13:44] DaGr8Gatzby: 4.4.2? [13:45] then gksu /etc/passwd.bak [13:45] and save that as /etc/passwd and overwrite [13:45] nothing opened [13:46] the file didnt open? [13:46] no it didn`t [13:46] is it already open? [13:46] DaGr8Gatzby: is it safe to install as i said and not with .deb files? cause i can't find .deb files for xfce 4.6 [13:47]