[00:03] <SJr|Work> Okay how can I make a Kubuntu 8.10 alternate installer from the Windows on USB
[00:06] <mefisto__> SJr|Work: you mean you want to do it in Windows?
[00:06] <SJr|Work> Yes
[00:07] <SJr|Work> cdavis are you cbdavis on Undernet?
[00:12] <mefisto__> SJr|Work: this might help, or another page on that site: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/my-slax-creator-alternate-usb-install-method/
[00:12] <SJr|Work> thahnks
[00:13] <AlanasAnikonis> http://photodeus.com/tmp/garbled_fonts-0.jpg  who could tell me where to modify the system font so I can get rid of this madness
[00:13] <AlanasAnikonis> i just did a dist-upgrade and my KDE 4.x has a weird default system font
[00:13] <AlanasAnikonis> dingbats or whatever
[00:16] <slerder> Hi everyone. Im having a bit of a problem. Ever since today when I have my vlc window maximized i cannot see the top menu bar (organe) with the quit, maximize and minimize buttons. What could be causing this? Thanks.
[00:17] <mefisto__> AlanasAnikonis: in systemsettings > regional and language, what languages are installed? (or is that unreadable too?)
[00:17] <AlanasAnikonis> it's quite unreadable...
[00:17] <AlanasAnikonis> i am unable to navigate there :P
[00:17] <AlanasAnikonis> but i'll try to run systemsettings
[00:17] <AlanasAnikonis> the name of the binary would help...
[00:18] <draik_> I'm having an issue trying to write to my newly installed Kubuntu desktop. I keep getting 'Read-only file system'
[00:18] <draik_> Did I overlook something.
[00:20] <draik_> I just tried restarting the desktop and I've got bad sectors already on the new HDD. Very similar to the last one
[00:22] <carpii> using raid ?
[00:22] <slerder> Hi everyone. Im having a bit of a problem. Ever since today when I have my vlc window maximized i cannot see the top menu bar (organe) with the quit, maximize and minimize buttons. What could be causing this? Thanks.
[00:24] <tuxi> slerder, does escape do anything for you?
[00:25] <draik_> carpii: No, not using RAID at all.
[00:25] <slerder> tuxi, nope but thanks anyway i found (googled, damn gotta love google) i used the command "metacity –replace". article here.. nice little read/tip metacity –replace
[00:25] <tuxi> OK
[00:26] <slerder> tuxi thanks anyway ;) that might just help you out in the future ;)
[00:26] <tuxi> I wasn't sure if you were maximized or full screen -- in full screen, the escape key or f will toggle to windowed
[00:26] <carpii> draik, faulty hd controller maybe?
[00:26] <SJr|Work> OMFG why does the installer force me to install from CD
[00:26] <carpii> seems odd that a new drive would fubar immediately after an old one
[00:27] <mefisto__> AlanasAnikonis: name of the binary for the gui? that's qt-language-selector. or do apt-cache search language-pack-kde
[00:27] <tuxi> I've run into RO file systems on improperly unmounted VFAT filesystems but not ext3
[00:27] <draik_> Hmmm... there appears to be a difference in using CLI and Adept for my packages. CLI (yakuake and konsole) terminates my desktop's connection to the Internet. Adept, however, is flying through the downloads about 750-800 kB/s
[00:27] <draik_> carpii: True. Right now I'm in the market for a new add-on card to support SATA at 3.0GB/s
[00:27] <tuxi> draik_, are you using aptitude on the command line?
[00:28] <AlanasAnikonis> http://photodeus.com/tmp/garbled_menu.jpeg and http://photodeus.com/tmp/garbled_menu1.jpeg
[00:28] <draik_> tuxi: Nope. I'm using 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[00:28] <tuxi> strange
[00:28] <draik_> Very
[00:29] <tuxi> have you run fsck on the new disk?
[00:29] <draik_> I'm still doing the upgrades. Should I wait for them to finish downloading (about 3m 30s)?
[00:30] <tuxi> if it's read-only they won't install
[00:30] <draik_> Good point
[00:30] <mefisto__> AlanasAnikonis: can you read anything if you do    kdesudo qt-language-selector --mode select
[00:30] <draik_> Konsole is open
[00:30] <draik_> What should I enter, tuxi?
[00:30] <tuxi> I'm stabbing in the dark on the read-only issue
[00:30] <draik_> Oh. OK.
[00:31] <tuxi> you need to unmount the filesystem to run a check
[00:31] <AlanasAnikonis> mefisto__:  unknown option --mode
[00:31] <AlanasAnikonis> it does run though
[00:31] <draik_> Downloads will be done in about 30s
[00:32] <tuxi> give that a go -- maybe your OK
[00:32] <tuxi> s/your/you're
[00:32] <draik_> 10s...
[00:32] <mefisto__> AlanasAnikonis: ok, try sudo instead of kdesudo
[00:32] <draik_> cross your fingers cuz here we go...
[00:33] <AlanasAnikonis> mefisto__: it started doing something :)
[00:33] <draik_> odd... They seem to be installing just fine with Adept.
[00:33]  * tuxi crosses his fingers for draik_
[00:34] <draik_> Thanks tuxi. I find it very difficult to type with my fingers crossed ;)
[00:35] <mefisto__> draik_: careful with running fsck
[00:35] <f3rojo> COMO PUEDO  ENTRAR A UN BUSACDOR DE INTERENET?
[00:35] <draik_> !es | f3rojo
[00:35] <mefisto__> draik_: best/easiest way is to do sudo touch /forcefsk     then reboot and let it do the check on boot
[00:35] <f3rojo> MUCHAS GRACIAS
[00:36] <mefisto__> draik_: best/easiest way is to do sudo touch /forcefsck     (not forcefsk)   then reboot and let it do the check on boot
[00:36] <AlanasAnikonis> kcmshell4 is what I was looking for!
[00:36] <draik_> mefisto__: I want to be sure I have the syntax right. 'sudo touch /forcefsck /dev/sda1'
[00:36] <draik_> Is that correct?
[00:36] <draik_> mefisto__: No worries, I knew what you meant.
[00:36] <tuxi> mefisto__, that's new to me, thanks
[00:36] <mefisto__> draik_: no, just: sudo touch /forcefsck
[00:37] <draik_> OK
[00:37] <draik_> OK
[00:37] <draik_> Done
[00:37] <mefisto__> draik_: it just creates the empty file  'forcefsck' in the root dir which will force fsck to run on next boot
[00:38] <tuxi> mefisto__, is that only the root partition which is checked?
[00:38] <draik_> That's awesome. It just went down in my notebook for useful commands
[00:39] <mefisto__> tuxi: not sure, but I think it checks everything in fstab, unless it has an fstab option not to do a fsck check
[00:40] <mefisto__> tuxi: that is, things in fstab with a 0 on the end of the line (I think)
[00:40] <tuxi> ok, that would be enough -- if it's not in fstab, you can easily unmount, do the fsck, and remount
[00:40] <AlanasAnikonis> http://photodeus.com/tmp/screenshot1.jpeg this is my problem, i am hopeful now :)
[00:43] <tuxi> draik_, another option is "sudo shutdown -rF now" -- r is reboot and F is force fsck
[00:43] <mefisto__> draik_: sudo touch /fastboot  will do the opposite, it will NOT do a fsck check in case fsck wants to do one and you want to prevent it on next boot
[00:44] <racecar56> gotta go bye
[00:47] <draik_> Time to reboot the desktop and see what happens
[00:47] <tuxi> mefisto__, apparently it's the sixth field in /etc/fstab that controls fsck -- 0 isn't checked, 1 is first, followed by 2, and on higher
[00:48] <tuxi> for me, / has a 1 and all other HDDs have a 2
[00:48] <draik_> Reboot was good, fsck is working its way through my 1TB HDD. It's at 15%. Not bad. Running rather smoothly.
[00:50] <mefisto__> tuxi: right. it's a good idea to use 0 on any windows partitions if you have them, and let windows do the checking of it's own filesystems
[00:50] <tuxi> I don't have windows partions outside of a VM
[00:51] <mefisto__> tuxi: that's even better :)
[00:51] <draik_> Speaking of VMs, can VMs be xfer'd between VirtualBox and VMware?
[00:51] <tuxi> :-D
[00:51] <epimeth> guys... I forgot what package I need to install for compiling stuff
[00:51] <epimeth> ?
[00:52] <tuxi> VirtualBox can use a VMWare file
[00:52] <epimeth> !compile
[00:52] <epimeth> there we go :-)
[00:52] <draik_> epimeth: build-essential
[00:52] <mefisto__> draik_: vbox can use VMware's images. not sure if it's the same the other way around.
[00:52] <tuxi> build-essential is a minimum requirement
[00:52] <draik_> epimeth: Or maybe with an s, build-essentials
[00:52] <BluesKaj> epimeth, build-essential
[00:53] <mefisto__> draik_: they could tell you in #vbox
[00:53] <draik_> OK. That works for me. VBox can't make an image from OS X, but VMware can.
[00:53] <draik_> Safe to say it can be xfer'd?
[00:53] <tuxi> draik_, if you have an M$ VM, you will be using different virtual hardware and that makes it a pita
[00:53] <draik_> OK, I'll ask them.
[00:53] <epimeth> BluesKaj, draik_: cheers
[00:54] <BluesKaj> epimeth :)
[00:54] <draik_> Cheers epimeth
[01:00] <draik_> I can't wait for DaSkreech to join #kubuntu. After so much of his help, it all turned out to be a failing HDD that was the cause of the issue.
[01:01] <draik_> I am finally running smoothly online.
[01:01] <draik_> No more freezing
[01:02] <draik_> I take it back. It just froze.
[01:03] <draik_> :(
[01:05] <epimeth> ummm... error: ncurses not found
[01:05] <epimeth> !ncurses
[01:15] <BluesKaj> !info ncurses
[01:17] <dtchen_> !info libncurses5
[01:18] <BluesKaj> dtchen_ , show off   :)
[01:19] <dtchen_> eh? :)
[01:20] <musical> hi folks
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[01:30] <Luija> mefisto__
[01:30] <Luija> the problem of internet in ubuntu is still there
[01:31] <Luija> not wired, no wifi, no nothing, WTF????!!!!
[01:31] <Luija> kubuntu*
[01:31] <Luija> i need help mefisto, or i will then proceed to go back to vista :S
[01:31] <Luija> why a OS without internet...???
[01:32] <Luija> bazhang...
[01:33] <bazhang> Luija, please keep the channel family friendly
[01:34] <Luija> i didnt say thing baz...
[01:34] <bazhang> you said wtf
[01:34] <Luija> read above pls :)...
[01:34] <Luija> kids dont know wtf means lol
[01:34] <bazhang> bad words
[01:34] <bazhang> doesnt matter, the rest of us do
[01:35] <Luija> so bazhang. read above... problem persist... i am tired bazhang...
[01:35] <bazhang> Luija, then take a rest.
[01:35] <Luija> can u help me pls
[01:35] <Luija> LOL tired of the F problem
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Luija: run lspci
[01:35] <epimeth> does anyone know of a bluetooth scanner that *isn't* btscanner?  its not finding my cell phone...
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Luija: it will help
[01:35] <bazhang> Luija, you need to patiently work through this, and you seem not able to do that now.
[01:36] <Luija> because i am pissed off of how kubuntu has so much problems with internet :S
[01:36] <bazhang> no problems here at all
[01:36] <bazhang> Luija, this was after your router firmware upgrade
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Luija: depends on hardware
[01:36] <Luija> LOL bazhang, i cant connect to internet, EITHER wired or wireless
[01:37] <Luija> bazhang what i dont understand is why my ps3, and vista pcs can connect
[01:37] <bazhang> Luija, we know, dont repeat
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> Luija: all my hardware works out if the box, i bought it for that reason
[01:37] <Luija> AND KUBUNTU NO
[01:37] <bazhang> Luija, and lose the caps
[01:37] <Luija> ...
[01:37] <Luija> ok
[01:38] <Luija> btw i am talking from vista lol
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> Luija: is all about what hardware you have
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> vista is garbage
[01:38] <bazhang> Luija, tell us the exact chipset of your wired and wireless
[01:38] <Luija> is a router
[01:38] <Luija> my router is a WRT54G
[01:38] <bazhang> Luija, put it in a pastebin if more than one line
[01:38] <Luija> i upgraded from 8.00.00 to 8.00.5
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> Luija: doesnt mater what te router is
[01:39] <Luija> then what r u asking me?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Luija: all network devices obey ISO standards so it doesnt matter what you have
[01:39] <bazhang> Luija, give us the exact info we need, or there is no help
[01:39] <Luija> but what r u asking me
[01:39] <Luija> whats "chipsets"
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Luija: we want to know the hardware in your system, not your router
[01:39] <Luija> remember i am latino lol
[01:39] <bazhang> Luija, the exact wired and wireless chipsets
[01:40] <Luija> chipsets?
[01:40] <bazhang> !es | Luija then go here
[01:40] <wildbat> do amorok have windows version @v2?
[01:40] <Luija> nononono
[01:40] <Luija> baz
[01:40] <bazhang> wildbat, windows?
[01:40] <Luija> english help is better
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> Luija: the wired and wireless chip in your pc, the router doesnt make an y difference at all
[01:40] <Luija> more people
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> Luija: lcpci
[01:40] <bazhang> wildbat, what does that have to do with kubuntu
[01:40] <wildbat> damn too bad ~ i like amarok ^^
[01:41] <Luija> but what u mean with "chip", where i can know the chipset??
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> wildbat: check the amamrok site
[01:41] <bazhang> Luija, lspci in konsole
[01:41] <Luija> ok
[01:41] <Luija> lol
[01:41] <bazhang> Luija, dont paste here if more than one line
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Luija: linux delas with the chip of the lan and wifi, the make and model of anything means nothing
[01:41] <Luija> remember i am in bista, so cmd works?
[01:41] <bazhang> !paste | Luija
[01:42] <zombine> Does anyone know how to make Kate write tabs when you press tab at the beginning of a line instead of spaces
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Luija: no, lspci womt work in vista as it doesnt have the linux command
[01:42] <bazhang> Luija, you are dual booting with vista
[01:42] <Luija> i am in vista baz
[01:42] <Luija> i cant log in kubuntu
[01:42] <Luija> because there is not inter :S
[01:42]  * ActionParsnip hates vista almost as much as Apple
[01:42] <bazhang> Luija, that does not answer my question
[01:42] <Luija> dual booting?????
[01:43] <Luija> than if i choose what OS i want to use in the start?
[01:43] <bazhang> yes
[01:43] <Luija> then yes :)
[01:44] <bazhang> Luija, you need to boot into the kubuntu and report what we are asking; lspci for chipsets (write them down)
[01:44] <bazhang> Luija, and tell us what ifconfig shows (wlan0, eth0, lo, etc)
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> Luija: we dont care, just get into ubuntu and you can tell us your networking chips
[01:45] <Luija> unknow hardware baz....
[01:45] <bazhang> Luija, then you need to sudo dhclient eth0 and tell us what that says
[01:45] <Luija> i tried to do that
[01:45] <Luija> but dont solved :S
[01:45] <Luija> unknow hard again
[01:45] <bazhang> Luija, no you didnt
[01:45] <Luija> yes i did...
[01:45] <bazhang> Luija, you never gave us a pastebin
[01:45] <Luija> like 5 hours ago
[01:46] <bazhang> Luija, lspci showed nothing?
[01:46] <Luija> how i am gonna paste it baz without internet :S
[01:46] <Luija> i dont have tiped ls still
[01:46] <epimeth> lol
[01:46] <epimeth> Luija makes a good point
[01:46] <bazhang> Luija, so you never did it
[01:46] <Luija> u say me
[01:46] <Luija> last time
[01:46] <Luija> than i must paste
[01:47] <Luija> ifconfig
[01:47] <Luija> then dh client or somethin like that
[01:47] <bazhang> Luija, yes, and you never gave us the info we needed
 how i am gonna paste it baz without internet :S
[01:47] <bazhang> Luija, and you cant remember or write a command given here five seconds ago
[01:47] <zombine> ah never mind i got it
[01:47] <Luija> reinstalling kubuntu will solve the problem???
[01:48] <epimeth> Luija: it might
[01:48] <bazhang> Luija, who knows. you are clearly not trying to give us the info we need
[01:48] <Luija> changing from OS to OS is annoying...
[01:48] <Luija> let me do that
[01:48] <bazhang> Luija, you dont even bother to tab complete our nicknames
[01:48] <bazhang> Luija, my nickname is not baz
[01:48] <epimeth> bazhang: not all clients allow that....
[01:49] <Luija> 0_0???!!!!
[01:49] <bazhang> Luija, try baz <tab>
[01:49] <Luija> u wrry for a nick???
[01:49] <Luija> baz, no problem in that :S
[01:49] <Wazmyn> great. something just went all crazy and I've my task bar widget has been deleted. how do i get it back?
[01:49] <Luija> tipe in konsole: plasma
[01:49] <Luija> that will solve that :)
[01:49] <bazhang> no
[01:50] <Luija> that solved it to me...
[01:50] <Luija> ok, let me use my other pc to talk with u lol
[01:50] <Wazmyn> what good would calling the entire desktop accomplish?
[01:50] <epimeth> so does anyone know of a bluetooth scanner?
[01:50] <bazhang> Luija, we need the following info: the output from lspci
[01:50] <Wazmyn> What's the actual name of that widget?
[01:50] <Luija> brvb
[01:50] <bazhang> Luija, the output from ifconfig
[01:51] <bazhang> Luija, the output from sudo dhclient eth0
[01:51] <Luija> oh my god, solving a problem in this OS is so annoying...T_T
[01:51] <Luija> brb
[01:51]  * astromme sighs
[01:51] <bazhang> Luija, ok. good luck then.
[01:51] <epimeth> Luija: have you ever tried solving a problem in any other OS?
[01:51] <astromme> Luija: You have people here spending their FREE TIME to help you. Please show a little respect.
[01:52] <Luija> wrong place... wrong time... brb guys :D dont talk to me because i will be using my other laptop lol
[01:52] <Luija> bye
[01:52] <bazhang> bye
[01:53] <Wazmyn> ah, found it
[01:54] <cuznt> my flash is still screwed up
[01:54] <cuznt> trying to view www.hos.com
[01:54] <cuznt> its flash
[01:55] <bazhang> cuznt, what version of ubuntu/kubuntu, how was flash installed, which version
[01:55] <cuznt> used to work in epiphany , kde4.2
[01:55] <cuznt> flash was installed way back worked fine since 4.0
[01:56] <bazhang> nice site
[01:56] <cuznt> it does not work in firefox either.
[01:57] <bazhang> works great here
[01:57] <cuznt> right on it IS me.
[01:57] <bazhang> kubuntu intrepid 4.1
[01:57] <bazhang> err kde4.1
[01:57] <cuznt> i uninstalled flash and re-installed it and nada.
[01:57] <bazhang> :)
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> cuznt: is your linux 32bit or 64bit?
[01:58] <cuznt> !add-ons
[01:58] <bazhang> I've also got flashblock, and flashplugin-nonfree from repos
[01:58] <cuznt> 32
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> cuznt: www.abobe.com
[01:58] <bazhang> the flash repo install was just updated
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> cuznt: download the tar.gz and extract it to a manually created folder: ~/.mozilla/plugins
[01:59] <bazhang> did Luija ever log out/quit?
[01:59] <cuznt> ty
[02:00] <bazhang> cuznt, what does about:plugins in ff show
[02:01] <cuznt> ff?
[02:02] <bazhang> firefox address bar : -->about:plugins
[02:13] <Bugs_BunnyBR> !pt
[02:15] <Mr_Grieves|> Hi -- I'm rather new to kubuntu, I'm giving it a try after using gentoo for a while. I'm running into a couple of problems, though.
[02:16] <Mr_Grieves|> I've installed a package from source for development purposes, but when I try to run it from the command line, it tells me that /usr/bin/program cannot be found
[02:16] <Mr_Grieves|> It is installed in /usr/local/bin/program -- why isn't kubuntu checking past /usr/bin?
[02:17] <Mr_Grieves|> /usr/local/bin/ is actually before /usr/bin/ in my PATH
[02:18] <BluesKaj> Mr_Grieves|, did you try the runbox ..kdesudo name of app/path
[02:20] <Mr_Grieves|> BluesKaj: Ok -- that works now. Not sure why, but it does :P
[02:21] <Mr_Grieves|> One more question: I'm using 8.10 -- is it possible to get Qt 4.5 running in it without building from source?
[02:22] <Mr_Grieves|> All I see in google are links to 9.04 when I try to find info.
[02:23] <BluesKaj> yeah, i think the older versions like 4.0 ,at least that's what is listed in the sources
[02:25] <Michael72> !help
[02:27] <Mr_Grieves|> !find qt4 8.10
[02:27] <Mr_Grieves|> !find qt4 intrepid
[02:27] <bazhang> Michael72, need a question
[02:28] <Mr_Grieves|> !info libqt4-dev intrepid
[02:30] <Mr_Grieves|> Hmm, is there a list of all the repos that can be added and what they provide? Surely qt 4.5's rc1 made it into a tree somewhere.
[02:31] <Michael72> bazhang: I need russian channel
[02:31] <bazhang> !ru
[02:32] <BluesKaj> !ru
[02:32] <bazhang> Michael72, #ubuntu-ru
[02:32] <Michael72> Thanks
[02:32] <bazhang> np
[02:41] <Mr_Grieves|> There is not a list of unofficial repos?
[02:43] <Erthe> Hey, I'm trying to use recordmydesktop to make a video of KDE4, wondering if anyone knows a way to record the audio coming from Amarok with it?
[02:44] <bazhang> Mr_Grieves|, a list of every 3rd party repo and ppa in existence?
[02:45] <Mr_Grieves|> bazhang: Just the big ones :)
[02:45] <Erthe> Better yet, how can I get a list of audio devices on the command line?
[02:46] <bazhang> Mr_Grieves|, heh; well I am guessing 4.5 is what you are looking for, let me try a search for ppa's at least
[02:46] <bazhang> Erthe, lspci ?
[02:49] <Erthe> Which sound system does Kubuntu 8.10 use by default?
[02:52] <mefisto__> Erthe: asoundconf list     <-- is that the kind of thing you want?
[02:53] <Mr_Grieves|> bazhang: Yes, if there's a way to get 4.5, that'd be great :)
[02:53]  * Mr_Grieves| goes to google ppa...
[02:53] <bazhang> !ppa
[02:53] <bazhang> :)
[02:55] <Mr_Grieves|> bazhang: aha :) Is the ppa @ launchpad the only one?
[02:55] <bazhang> Mr_Grieves|, afaik yes
[02:56] <bazhang> the only ones should be (there are many)
[03:09] <draik_> New 1TB HDD, brand new installation of Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE4.2. What would cause it to freeze every so often? Also, why would my Internet connection suddenly die on Kubuntu but not on my XP partition?
[03:10] <bazhang> external hdd?
[03:15] <draik_> bazhang: No, internal
[03:16] <mefisto__> draik_: what's freezing? everything? or just X ?
[03:16] <draik_> Everything mefisto__
[03:17] <mefisto__> so you can't switch to a VT, for example?
[03:17] <draik_> I can't CTRL+ALT+F1 or anything. I'm stuck right then and there. I can still move the mouse, but rarely is it all frozen where I have nothing.
[03:17] <draik_> Let me rephrase that last part.
[03:17] <draik_> It is all frozen, bur rarely the mouse.
[03:22] <draik_> At times, I will just randomly lose my Internet connection on my desktop. No warning, no popup, nothing.
[03:23] <draik_> ifconfig will show the IP and all. I eth0 down then eth0 up and I have no IP
[03:24] <mefisto__> draik_: does it ever NOT freeze? eg if you let it run without using anything? does it ever ALWAYS freeze when you are doing something in particular?
[03:24] <draik_> mefisto__: I have left it alone for a bit and it still freezes
[03:24] <draik_> With the previous HDD, I noticed that nepomukservicestub was taking up 99-100% CPU
[03:25] <draik_> I just lost Internet connection on the desktop during an upgrade.
[03:25] <mefisto__> draik_: btw, what do you do after the freeze?
[03:26] <draik_> Reboot it. I press the reboot button and return to what I was doing.
[03:26] <draik_> I was on Yakuake
[03:27] <draik_> I pressed F12 to put it up and then I pressed it again to make sure there isn't a delay or a freeze...
[03:27] <mefisto__> draik_: you mean the reset button on the box, right?
[03:27] <draik_> Yup
[03:27] <draik_> I just lost my K menu and folder along with Show Dashboard, USB Notify and Trash.
[03:28] <draik_> Ok, now it's frozen.
[03:28] <draik_> Mouse moves around the screen, but everything else is MIA
[03:28] <draik_> Rebooting
[03:29] <mefisto__> draik_: ok, until you get this problem figured out, a safer way to recover from this is using "magic keys". hold down alt+SysRq (that's the "print screen button") and R E I S U B  (also, I find that doesn't work in k/ubuntu unless I hold down ctrl as well)
[03:30] <draik_> Will do
[03:30] <mefisto__> draik_: Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring. or BUSIER spelt backwards :)
[03:32] <draik_> REI - bogus schooling building             SUB - underwater boat with no screen doors
[03:33] <draik_> Never mind, UEI is the schooling BS, REI is the outdoors store
[03:34] <draik_> No Internet :(
[03:37] <draik_> Ok, now it froze. Let's see what happens next mefisto__
[03:38] <draik_> Nothing. :(
[03:38] <draik_> What was supposed to happen anyways, mefisto__
[03:40] <draik_> Ummm... It's like the OS is gone, but my desktop is still running.
[03:42] <draik_> mefisto__: What did I do wrong? I held down ALT and then pressed SysRq. I then held down CTRL as I pressed on R E I S U B
[03:43] <draik_> mefisto__: What happened? I can't restart my computer.
[03:59] <pablocnc444> thinking about installing kubuntu on my laptop, but a little worried about wireless connection problems I've seen. Anybody else have any problems with wireless networking with kubuntu?
[04:00] <pablocnc444> there must be almost a hundred people in this chatroom, doesnt anybody chat anymore in chat rooms?
[04:00] <mefisto__> draik_: alt-ctrl-SysRq all held down, then REISUB in sequence (leaving about a second in between each to give things time to unmount and remount, etc) and on the B it should reboot. that doesn't work for you? maybe leave out the ctrl key?
[04:01] <mefisto__> draik_: so with each press, you're holding down 4 keys
[04:01] <pablocnc444> ok, since i feel like a ghost right now, can anybody acknowledge that they see my text?
[04:02] <mefisto__> draik_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[04:02] <pablocnc444> is anybody actually at the terminal, or is this just people whose machines are connected to this channel?
[04:03] <pablocnc444> wth, bots maybe?
[04:03] <mefisto__> pablocnc444: I can see your text
[04:04] <pablocnc444> thank God, thank you
[04:04] <mefisto__> pablocnc444: I don't use wireless, but problems with wireless seem to be quite common.
[04:05] <pablocnc444> haven't used irc chat in many years, but connected to this channel from the kubuntu.org website, saw all these people in here, and no one is chatting apparently but me
[04:05] <pablocnc444> i see, so kubuntu might not be a good idea after all then
[04:05] <pablocnc444> thx mefisto
[04:06] <mefisto__> pablocnc444: the problems are usually not too hard to solve
[04:07] <mefisto__> pablocnc444: some wireless drivers don't work out of the box, from what little I know. there's plenty of howto's on forums, etc
[04:07] <pablocnc444> i'm very fluent in xp, almast aplus certified, but i looked everywhere on a kubuntu system for the wep key, and can't even find wireless properties. man. net hasn't been much help either/
[04:08] <mefisto__> !wireless
[04:08] <mefisto__> try that link ^^
[04:08] <pablocnc444> headed there now, thx very much
[04:08] <navetz> how can i set my repositories to download the latest version of flash player?
[04:09] <mefisto__> pablocnc444: also try googling your wireless hardware + ubuntu
[04:10] <mefisto__> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[04:10] <mefisto__> navetz: make sure multiverse is enabled and install or update
[04:11] <navetz> mefisto__: humm that is the latest one that debian supports i think, but not the lastest one out
[04:12] <mefisto__> navetz: you can download direct from adobe.com too. they have ubuntu .deb packages, which makes it very easy
[04:12] <navetz> mefisto__;yea but then i have to manually check for updates dont I? Is there a way to add that to my repos?
[04:15] <mefisto__> navetz: seems they are both the same version right now, 10.0.22.87 http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/flashplugin-nonfree   http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[04:15] <draik_> mefisto__: It doesn't work for me :(
[04:15] <draik_> I guess it is all locked out
[04:16] <draik_> I think I know why I'm getting a freeze
[04:16] <draik_> I'm just noticing that not all of my apps are KDE4.2
[04:17] <draik_> I just ran 'sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade' and I have quite a few installs to do.
[04:17] <draik_> Maybe this is why it is all failing.
[04:17] <mefisto__> why draik_ ?
[04:17] <draik_> I hope to have an internet connection long enough to upgrade everything and then hope even more that it doesn't freeze while in the process of upgrading.
[04:18] <draik_> That would cause an issue, right?
[04:18] <mefisto__> draik_: try doing the upgrades without X running, just in text mode VT
[04:18] <draik_> mefisto__: I am doing that now.
[04:19] <draik_> I'm hoping it doesn't freeze or cut out the Internet connection.
[04:19] <mefisto__> draik_: so it still freezes even without X running?
[04:19] <draik_> It has in the past.
[04:19] <draik_> Maybe once or twice, but yeah.
[04:20] <mefisto__> draik_: since it's a new disk, have you double checked the connectors? or maybe other cables that may have been accidentally knocked and loosened when you put the disk in?
[04:21] <draik_> I've checked and nothing. I had to disconnect the 3 other HDDs when I was trying to install Kubuntu from the LiveCD
[04:22] <draik_> Is the LiveCD different now than when it was first released on October 30, 2008?
[04:23] <draik_> mefisto__: It froze. TTY1 reported it frozen.
[04:23] <draik_> All upgrades have failed
[04:23] <draik_> Can't download and can't install due to Read-only file system.
[04:23] <draik_> Do I need to reinstall the OS?
[04:23] <mefisto__> before the new disk, this never happened?
[04:23] <draik_> Nope
[04:24] <draik_> This is the 2nd 1TB HDD
[04:24] <draik_> Never mind about the freezing. I think it was referencing the Internet connection.
[04:25] <draik_> I was initially on a 500GB HDD; 320GB to Kubuntu while I had about 120GB to XP.
[04:25] <draik_> I xfer'd the partition to the 1TB HDD while I have all of the 500GB to XP.
[04:26] <draik_> XP works fine, but the 1TB HDD has been failing. This is the 2nd 1TB HDD.
[04:26] <draik_> The first one was with me for 3 weeks to the day.
[04:26] <draik_> Today is the start with a new HDD
[04:26] <mefisto__> you could try reinstalling, but it might behave exactly the same. or you could try disconnecting other disks (if that would work with your setup) to see if it still freezes
[04:27] <mefisto__> might be a hardware problem with the disk, too. it does happen with new disks sometimes
[04:27] <draik_> :(
[04:27] <draik_> I think I might have to start building a new system.
[04:27] <draik_> Not that I mind, but I'd rather not.
[04:28] <mefisto__> you're booting from the new disk?
[04:28] <draik_> It's the 8.10 from when it was originally released.
[04:28] <draik_> Was there a new one?
[04:29] <mefisto__> I think it's the same, but not really sure
[04:30] <draik_> I'll get the new one, that's not an issue.
[04:30] <draik_> Assuming, of course, that there is a new one
[04:30] <Slartibartfast> draik_: a new one would be 8.10.1 iguess
[04:31] <draik_> Why does the topic say '8.04.2 released'?
[04:31] <mefisto__> maybe try the jaunty one? that is due to be released in april, right? probably not too different now than the april release
[04:31] <Slartibartfast> 8.04.2 is LTS
[04:31] <draik_> Is 8.04 LTS?
[04:31] <draik_> Ah
[04:31] <draik_> OK
[04:31] <draik_> Good point
[04:32] <mefisto__> draik_: also, I think jaunty comes with kde4.2 so you won't need to upgrade
[04:33] <draik_> I still have to install my other apps. I'm not too worried, but I'll be happy to lose the freeze and Internet drops.
[04:33] <draik_> It's getting late and I have yet to grab lunch.
[04:33] <draik_> I'll BRB and let you all know what happens.
[04:34] <Slartibartfast> don't know if it is only from here but it looks like http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ has some problems
[04:36] <Slartibartfast> ah .. much better now
[04:37] <Slartibartfast> :-( or not
[04:40] <mefisto__> what problems Slartibartfast?
[04:40] <mefisto__> downloading the iso?
[04:41] <Slartibartfast> Connection to Server Refused in konqueror ..... not loading pages
[04:42] <Slartibartfast> error says: Description: The server cdimages.ubuntu.com refused to allow this computer to make a connection.
[04:42] <mefisto__> seems OK here
[04:44] <Slartibartfast> strange ... because a site like google or slashdot loads just as quick... but the ubuntu site seems to be slooooow
[04:45] <asobi> any way to make shortcut for ark?
[04:45] <asobi> a keystroke to extract instead of right click
[04:46] <jepong> good day... i have this problem on my netbook http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3101808.0
[04:46] <jepong> login screen is not maximize
[04:56] <shadowhywind> does anyone know of a way to change the desktop picture from the console
[05:16] <draik_> Where can I get Jaunty?
[05:17] <draik_> I'm looking for the torrent and failing to find something with seeds
[05:19] <Slartibartfast> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/alpha-5/
[05:20] <RaW[b33f]> I am running an installed 9.04 Alpha 4 updated to the latest and I can find no pdf readers. kpdf, nor Adobe. Um..help?
[05:21]  * Slartibartfast is now going to have yum cha, cya
[05:21] <bazhang> RaW[b33f], #ubuntu+1 for jaunty
[05:22] <RaW[b33f]> er?
[05:22] <RaW[b33f]> oh - the channel - will do
[05:22] <RaW[b33f]> ty
[06:02] <DaddyLonglegs> Any guy here using logmein on linux to access a windows machine?
[06:02] <carpii> yes
[06:04] <DaddyLonglegs> carpii: I've configured logmein to connect my remote machine using Java. Whenever I try to access that machine, my browser in status bar says that "Start: applet not initialized." Do you know why is that for?
[06:05] <BigMike> i I just moved 8 gigs of ext3 and its still telling me the same thing 2.2 free why isnt it updating?
[06:05] <carpii> maybe some java jdk versioning
[06:06] <carpii> make sure youre on latest version, i really had no problems with it
[06:06] <DaddyLonglegs> carpii: I'm using Java 1.6
[06:07] <carpii> hm same here
[06:07] <DaddyLonglegs> carpii: I think that's the latest version.
[06:07] <carpii> yes
[06:33] <chronic_> any of u seen sex drive unrated ?
[07:02] <chaoslang> how to  distribute my  public key ?
[07:07] <dtchen_> chaoslang: GPG pubkey? use a keyserver, e.g., keyserver.ubuntu.com
[07:14] <chaoslang> dtchen : 3q
[07:41] <mikey> hi
[07:45] <multoff> привет всем
[08:07] <goofey> !ru | multoff
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[08:19] <co_16_cr_EpHEZz> df
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[08:26] <Haza> Tm
[08:27] <Haza> Tm_T: You get some crazy ones eh?
[08:27] <Tm_T> Haza: not especially no
[08:32] <Flyboarder> boot menu help plz?
[08:33] <Flyboarder> anyone?
[08:33] <Haza> Flyboarder: I would ask your question mate and see if anyone can help :)
[08:34] <Haza> damn... so impatient
[08:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i install google earth?
[08:38] <xL1t> CostaRicanQuaker: http://olyrus.blogspot.com/2006/07/how-to-install-google-earth-for.html
[08:39] <Haza> xL1t: Lots of impatient people today mate
[08:40] <xL1t> Haza: yep... Why don't they just google it first... ???
[08:45] <bazhang> !googleearth
[08:48] <thedark> is it normal for firefox to crash when I try to install an "experimental" add-on?
[08:48] <thedark> I am running kubuntu 8.10, Firefox 3, KDE 4.1
[08:48] <bazhang> which addon
[08:48] <xL1t> thedark: It depend on the addon...
[08:48] <bazhang> let me install it :)
[08:49] <bazhang> is it the mono plugin?
[08:49] <thedark> the hidemyass proxy addon
[08:50] <bazhang> link?
[08:50] <bazhang> oh a proxy
[08:50] <thedark> sure, one sec
[08:50] <bazhang> thedark, is this with privoxy/tor ?
[08:51] <thedark> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10002
[08:51] <thedark> I don't know what privoxy/tor is
[08:51] <thedark> I assume an extension, but I never installed it
[08:51] <bazhang> let me try :)
[08:51] <bazhang> if you dont know tor, then you dont have it
[08:51]  * thedark nods
[08:52] <thedark> I am just trying to get anonymized so I can watch videos at a site that is blocking my region
[08:52] <bazhang> you have to log in to do that?
[08:52] <dtchen_> yeah, i have that complaint about bbc.co.uk's drwho site
[08:53] <maco> and if you do know tor, there's a good chance you're being man-in-the-middled :)
[08:53] <maco> dtchen_: we need to find a brit to let us proxy through them!
[08:53] <dtchen_> nah, i just wait for them to be youtubed
[08:53] <maco> you still have my tennant-season-3
[08:54] <dtchen_> 4.
[08:54] <thedark> for me it is crunchyroll.com
[08:54] <maco> (aka new season 4)
[08:54] <maco> no it's tenant's 3rd. because eccleston was in new-season1
[08:54] <thedark> I am trying to watch subtitled Korean dramas, but I currently live in Korea
[08:54] <dtchen_> i see tennant s3 called s4.
[08:54] <thedark> hidemyass.com use to work, but starting today it seems crunchyroll.com outsmarted them as I now get the "Not available in your region :(." error
[08:55] <maco> dtchen_: well s4 isnt *really* s4, so it makes sense to me to use $dr-$season-$episode....like "3rd year in the reign of king whathisface"
[08:56] <thedark> how is it going bazhang?
[08:57] <bazhang> how do you login to mozilla?
[08:57] <thedark> login?
[08:57] <thedark> what do you mean?
[08:57] <bazhang> afaik I dont have an account there :)
[08:57] <thedark> ah
[08:57] <thedark> well I made one
[08:57] <bazhang> thedark, it took me to a login page
[08:57] <thedark> yeah you need an account
[08:57] <Slartibartfast> bazhang, indeed for experimental addons you need to login
[08:58] <bazhang> Slartibartfast, aha thanks
[08:58] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Hello buddy! I'm on KDE 4.2 finally!
[08:58]  * DaddyLonglegs hails from KDE 4.2
[08:59] <mefisto__> :) well done! so how did you do it? what was wrong?
[09:00]  * Tm_T is old fart using KDE 4.2.65
[09:00] <thedark> how do you upgrade kde?
[09:01] <Slartibartfast> Tm_T: you're compiling that stuff yourself?
[09:01] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: I just did what you told me. I enabled backports, restarted, and when I came up for the second time, it said updates available. I checked the updates and KDE 4.2 was among them.
[09:01] <Tm_T> Slartibartfast: yes
[09:01] <Slartibartfast> aha
[09:03] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: just after you left, I happened to go to the kubuntu 4.2 upgrade instructions, and noticed they now don't mention the ppa repo. it just says enable backports, and update/upgrade. so maybe that's as it's meant to be now? maybe the ppa has been taken down?
[09:05] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Oh realy?! It's pretty likely! Backports worked like a charm for me. I'm so happy now! I appreciate all your time and kindliness; you're a piece of gem!
[09:05]  * DaddyLonglegs sends a hug for mefisto__
[09:06] <Tm_T> Slartibartfast: part of daily routines, compile KDE <3
[09:06] <mefisto__> aw, thanks
[09:09] <Slartibartfast>  Tm_T: hehehe ... must take a while before this is compiled :-) ... you you have a server farm with distcc to do that? :-)
[09:09]  * thedark implodes
[09:10] <Tm_T> Slartibartfast: nope, just an old desktop, takes from 15 minutes to 6 hours, depends how much new changes
[09:12] <Slartibartfast> Tm_T: just looking around on the kde website ... where can i find how to get a svn version of the source?
[09:12] <Tm_T> Slartibartfast: techbase.kde.org is the site to look at
[09:12] <Slartibartfast> OK OK ... thnx
[09:16] <bazhang> will the backports meld safely into the jaunty upgrade in a couple of months time?
[09:16] <bazhang> ie for using kde4.2
[09:16] <Tm_T> bazhang: that's the plan
[09:16] <bazhang> Tm_T, thanks
[09:17] <Slartibartfast> When i use OpenSuse with KDE 4.2 and i start the desktop, there is a nice fade in effect from the splash screen towards the actual desktop ... Can i also get that effect in Kubuntu with kde 4.2?
[09:18] <bazhang> I get that in 4.1 Slartibartfast (at least it resembles what you say)
[09:19] <Slartibartfast> bazhang: But is it some setting ? ..... seems hard to find
[09:19] <thedark> hello everyone when I tried to update through adept I get a strange error, could anyone help me out?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/124183/
[09:20] <Slartibartfast> bazhang: well seems i have that option checked in "desktop System Settings"
[09:21] <Slartibartfast> checked but doesn't work  ....
[09:23] <liquid_rainium> got a question...
[09:23] <liquid_rainium> im on kde, but i cant edit the desktop background or login themes, the i am not permitted to but i am the root user, how can i enable this?
[09:25] <liquid_rainium> ...is there any tech support in here that can help?
[09:25] <Slartibartfast> thedark: try this: sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[09:25] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, you are root?
[09:25] <liquid_rainium> yes.
[09:25] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, dont do that
[09:25] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, use sudo
[09:25] <liquid_rainium> but root priviledges might not be enabled
[09:26] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, how did you enable root
[09:26] <liquid_rainium> WITHOUT THE TERMINAL, ill learn to do that later
[09:26] <bazhang> lose the caps
[09:26] <liquid_rainium> no im just the owner of the comp, i havent enabled root priviledges
[09:26] <liquid_rainium> i just want to be able to change settings..
[09:26] <yaa_> zahbahzaahrh
[09:26] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, you are root, or just using sudo
[09:27] <bazhang> yaa_, ?
[09:27] <liquid_rainium> i just installed kde, i havent enabled anything..
[09:27] <yaa_> zaba ja skajahll
[09:27] <bazhang> yaa_, english here
[09:27] <liquid_rainium> just want to know how to edit backgrounds and login themes because it wont allow me to now
[09:28] <liquid_rainium> buttons are not active
[09:28] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, what error message do you get
[09:28] <yaa_> ooh my english is not understandable enough(
[09:28] <bazhang> yaa_, what country
[09:28] <liquid_rainium> the buttons are just not active in the settings window
[09:28] <yaa_> any chukcha inhere?
[09:28] <yaa_> chukcha
[09:28] <yaa_> aleut
[09:28] <liquid_rainium> ...can someone boot him please?
[09:29] <bazhang> yaa_, you'll have to speak english here
[09:30] <yaa_> ((
[09:30] <bazhang> yaa_, I dont see an aleut only channel right now
[09:30] <yaa_> no any chukcha?
[09:30] <bazhang> yaa_, do you have an ubuntu/kubuntu support question?
[09:31] <yaa_> yes but know not how to say
[09:31] <yaa_> (
[09:31] <bazhang> yaa_,  try your best
[09:31] <yaa_> drivers/ nvidia on 9600 gt
[09:31] <yaa_> cannot install
[09:31] <bazhang> yaa_, you speak russian?
[09:32] <yaa_> a little
[09:32] <yaa_> not much
[09:32] <bazhang> which version of kubuntu
[09:32] <liquid_rainium> ok, bazhang, i go to system settings/login manager and none of the buttons in the window are active, how do i gain access to edit those settings?
[09:32] <yaa_> 8.10
[09:33] <thedark> Slartibartfast: I tried what you said, I get the same error
[09:33] <yaa_> it works but i want proprietary drivers to work/ they do not
[09:33] <bazhang> yaa_, kmenu -->system-->hardware drivers
[09:33] <bazhang> yaa_,  check that they are enabled and in use
[09:33] <bazhang> yaa_, if not then enable them and do a full restart
[09:34] <bazhang> yaa_, there should be a recommended choice there, pick that one
[09:34] <Slartibartfast> thedark hmmm ... let me see ...
[09:34] <yaa_> they do not work/ stdout writes errors
[09:34] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, let me check; this is ibex
[09:34] <yaa_> when i install them the screen splits
[09:34] <liquid_rainium> k, thanks
[09:34] <bazhang> yaa_, installed from where
[09:35] <yaa_> from repository and from nidia site
[09:35] <bazhang> yaa_, both??
[09:35] <yaa_> nvidia
[09:35] <bazhang> that is a problem
[09:36] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, clicking advanced tab then login manager should bring a sudo password prompt; are you not getting that
[09:36] <yaa_> bazhang yes both
[09:36] <liquid_rainium> no im not
[09:36] <bazhang> yaa_, delete and reinstall only from repos
[09:37] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, then that is why
[09:37] <yaa_> i did that
[09:37] <yaa_> many times
[09:37] <bazhang> yaa_, not successfully apparently
[09:37] <liquid_rainium> whats the problem then, why wont it prompt me?
[09:37] <Slartibartfast> thedark read this ... mayeb it will help you https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/58124
[09:37] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, you said you were root
[09:38] <yaa_> apperently- do not know what is this
[09:38] <bazhang> yaa_, use the uninstaller from the nvidia installer, and delete the other with package manager
[09:38] <yaa_> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1035873.html i tried this
[09:38] <liquid_rainium> well im the owner but i have not enabled root priviledges at any point..
[09:39] <liquid_rainium> ..and am not sure how, im too used to running gnome
[09:39] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, well if you were just a normal user, you would get the prompt
[09:39] <bazhang> qed you are root
[09:39] <Slartibartfast> thedark: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update" seemed to have helped there
[09:39] <yaa_> i did . i deleted all the packages containing nvidia/ then installed again
[09:39] <liquid_rainium> well even if i was recognized as root, shouldnt the buttons be active?
[09:39] <bazhang> yaa_, deleted manually?
[09:39] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, nope
[09:40] <bazhang> liquid_rainium, ubuntu/kubuntu is set up to use sudo, not root
[09:40] <yaa_> yes manually
[09:40] <bazhang> yaa_, you did all manually? including repo packages?
[09:41] <thedark> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/multiverse Sources
[09:41] <thedark> 96% [Waiting for headers]
[09:41] <thedark> it is hanging there
[09:41] <bazhang> let it time out
[09:41] <yaa_> no// first with apt-get.. then manually
[09:41] <bazhang> yaa_, sounds bad
[09:41] <thedark> man this has been a frustrating couple of weeks with Kubuntu
[09:42] <bazhang> heh
[09:42] <thedark> everything seems to have a problem
[09:42] <thedark> I miss 8.04 :(
[09:42] <bazhang> the first two weeks are always this way
[09:42] <liquid_rainium> k ill just figure this out myself, i keep getting half-answers
[09:42] <yaa_> bazhang(( i see
[09:42] <wildbat> how do i set adept-upgrade to automatic
[09:42] <bazhang> liquid ah he quit
[09:42] <thedark> I blame KDE 4, since it came into my computing life everything has gone downhill
[09:43] <bazhang> !info cron-apt
[09:43] <thedark> when I first upgraded, I couldn't even login, I had to do a fresh new install. nobody in this chan could figure it out
[09:43] <bazhang> thedark, same here, so I used gnome until I figured to install kwin
[09:43] <thedark> now I still have a video skipping problem I can't solve, and firefox crashes relatively frequently
[09:44] <thedark> now I can't even upgrade
[09:44] <bazhang> thedark, sounds like, too many effects enabled, and too many ff iffy plugins
[09:44] <bazhang> thedark, upgrade? to the next release?
[09:44] <thedark> I have all desktop effects disabled
[09:44] <bazhang> no wonder
[09:45] <bazhang> you mean jaunty?
[09:45] <thedark> desktop was crashing all the time
[09:45] <thedark> 8.04.2
[09:45] <thedark> lol
[09:45] <thedark> I mean KDE 4.2
[09:45] <thedark> I have 8.10
[09:45] <bazhang> wait you are still on hardy?
[09:46] <thedark> no Intrepid
[09:46] <bazhang> oh ok
[09:46] <thedark> though I wish I stuck with Hardy
[09:46] <thedark> it was so stable
[09:46] <bazhang> what about paste.ubuntu.com with sources.list
[09:46] <thedark> I am still waiting for this freaking thing to timeout
[09:46] <thedark> man if my first linux experience was like this, I would have given up
[09:46] <bazhang> kde4.2 is experimental and just out
[09:46] <thedark> luckily I started with Puppy Linux at Kubuntu was much more stable before this upgrade
[09:47] <thedark> at=and
[09:47] <bazhang> early adopters have to suffer
[09:47] <thedark> at the time, I just clicked the upgrade button in adept
[09:47] <thedark> having no idea what was in store
[09:47] <thedark> now, everything is a nightmare
[09:47] <yaa_> anybody
[09:47] <bazhang> well if you wish I can check your sources.list or other stuff
[09:47] <thedark> probably not as bad as windows
[09:48] <thedark> but still not as great as it used to be
[09:48] <bazhang> yaa_, sounds like you broke package management
[09:48] <bazhang> yaa_, manually deleting things and getting those kinds of errors
[09:48] <thedark> how long does it take for this to timeout?
[09:48] <bazhang> you can ctrl c if you wish
[09:49] <yaa_> u mean i gotto reinstall ?
[09:49] <bazhang> yaa_, try to create another user, or use the livecd to boot
[09:49] <bazhang> yaa_, dont randomly manually delete things if you dont know what you are doing
[09:49] <ZmAY> how can i remotley run gui applications, using ssh, i need to configure display somehow, any help?
[09:49] <thedark> gahhhhhhhhhhh it always hangs at 96%
[09:50] <bazhang> thedark, paste.ubuntu.com with sources.list
[09:50]  * thedark nods
[09:50] <thedark> thank you for hanging with me
[09:50] <bazhang> cat /etc/apt/sources.list -->paste.ubuntu.com
[09:50] <yaa_> i can load kde/ its ok but using xorg drivers/ i need proprietary
[09:50] <DaddyLonglegs> Does anybody happen to know why my Mozilla Firefox cannot start Java applets? I'm sure that I've installed proper version of Java on my machine.
[09:50] <thedark> I know I am whining, I am just very frustrated
[09:50] <bazhang> thedark, this is not whining
[09:51] <bazhang> hang around if you want that :)
[09:51] <thedark> well it seems that way, I have never had this many problems with Kubuntu
[09:51] <thedark> it almost tempts me to go to another distro, but who knows what headaches that could bring
[09:51] <bazhang> experimental kde4.2 at that
[09:51] <thedark> I still have 4.1
[09:52] <thedark> I was going to upgrade to 4.2, didn't realize it it was still experimental
[09:52] <bazhang> thought you said 4.2 up thread
[09:52] <yaa_> ohh!!
[09:52] <bazhang> yaa_, ??
[09:52] <thedark> nah I wanted to upgrade to 4.2
[09:52] <yaa_> i can load kde/ its ok but using xorg drivers/ i need proprietary
[09:52] <thedark> thinking it would maybe improve things :-P
[09:52] <bazhang> yaa_, yes you said
[09:53] <thedark> where is sources.list located
[09:53] <bazhang> yaa_, and I suggested you  create a new user or try booting the live cd
[09:53] <yaa_> ok/ and then/ after makin new user?
[09:53] <bazhang> yaa_, are you not paying attention? you likely damaged package management system
[09:54] <yaa_> what i have to do now
[09:54] <bazhang> thedark, cat /etc/apt/sources.list  paste.ubuntu.com with it
[09:54] <thedark> okay, just asking cause I saw two of them
[09:54] <bazhang> yaa_, you did it already? and have logged in at that new user?
[09:55] <yaa_> yes
[09:55] <bazhang> yaa_, without logging off of irc?
[09:55] <yaa_> im on another comp
[09:56] <bazhang> oho
[09:56] <thedark> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/124200/
[09:56] <bazhang> gutsy-backports
[09:57] <bazhang> line 41 need to add # in front
[09:58] <bazhang> should be kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list then add #, save then sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:58] <bazhang> I am guessing the backports are what is causing the immediate issue
[09:59] <yaa_> ((
[09:59] <bazhang> less stable , crashiness may be an issue as well (related to backports)
[09:59] <bazhang> thedark, ^^
[10:00]  * thedark nods
[10:01] <thedark> oh snap, it worked
[10:01] <thedark> thanks
[10:01] <thedark> something goes right! :)
[10:03] <thedark> okay, here is my other major problem: videos skip every 10 seconds or so in every program, no matter the format. Even flash videos... audio is fine, but video "hiccups" slightly
[10:03] <thedark> this includes VLC, Mplayer, Youtube, Dragon Player, Kaffeine etc.
[10:03] <anouar> hi every body, im asking for ur help please
[10:04] <thedark> I went throught the multimedia tutorial at the ubuntu forum
[10:04] <thedark> so yes I have all the codecs installed
[10:05] <bazhang> anouar, need a question
[10:05] <thedark> another person suggested I have to reconfigure my graphics card and gave me a link to a site I bookmarked, but it just confuses me
[10:05] <anouar> ok
[10:05] <anouar> here is my probleme
[10:05] <bazhang> thedark, its fixed, the first problem?
[10:05] <bazhang> thedark, this was the geforce 6100?
[10:06] <anouar> i have an ATI graphic card, im trying compiz, all works fine, but 3D desktop not yet
[10:06] <anouar> i don't know what to do
[10:06] <thedark> yeah
[10:06] <thedark> your suggestion fixed the upgrade problem
[10:06] <bazhang> anouar, what card, what driver, how installed (and what version of kubuntu)
[10:07] <bazhang> thedark, and the graphics drivers are from repo or nvidia site
[10:07] <anouar> ubuntu 8.10
[10:07] <bazhang> anouar, ubuntu or kubuntu
[10:07] <anouar> i have the fglrx driver
[10:07] <anouar> ubuntu
[10:07] <bazhang> thought the fglrx was problematic
[10:07] <dr_Willis> It can be :)
[10:07] <thedark> but how do I know if I have my card configured properly?
[10:08] <anouar> i tried the navy
[10:08] <bazhang> heh
[10:08] <anouar> but still not working
[10:08] <dr_Willis> it has been.. i imagine it always will be.. depending on the card/setup :)
[10:08] <bazhang> apparently as he is asking for help with it
[10:08] <bazhang> anouar, the navy?
[10:09] <anouar> yes i found it in th ubuntu forum, many person suggest it
[10:09] <bazhang> thedark, do you see a recommended driver under hardware drivers?
[10:09] <bazhang> anouar, envy?
[10:09] <anouar> it install the appropriate driver for the ATI or NVIDIA graphic card
[10:09] <anouar> yes envy
[10:09] <bazhang> anouar, or envyng
[10:09] <anouar> no it's envy im sure
[10:10] <thedark> hardware drivers doesn't tell my anything
[10:10] <bazhang> anouar, only envy, not envyng-gtk? 100% sure on that?
[10:10] <thedark> just that "No propietary drivers are in use on this sytem"
[10:10] <anouar> yes only envy
[10:10] <bazhang> anouar, uh oh
[10:11] <anouar> bazhang thank's for ur attention
[10:11] <anouar> i think this server is for kubuntu
[10:11] <bazhang> thedark, I am trying to remember if the 173, 177, or 180 works best with that card
[10:11] <bazhang> anouar, a server?
[10:12] <bazhang> oh he meant channel
[10:12] <bazhang> thedark, you have adept, or synaptic installed?
[10:13] <thedark> both, yes
[10:13] <bazhang> thedark, I dont have that card, so may be not the best source of info here
[10:13] <bazhang> thedark, but you need to install one of the available cards from the package manager
[10:14] <bazhang> thedark, in my case it was the 177, but I have the 7300 card
[10:15] <thedark> how do I figure out which one?
[10:16] <bazhang> thedark, honestly the geniuses at this are in #compiz-fusion , it is a slower/smaller channel but they give the definitive answers
[10:17] <bazhang> thedark, otherwise you can, as I did, try out more than one
[10:17]  * thedark nods
[10:17] <thedark> let me ask, do you know anything about simple anonymous websurfing
[10:17] <thedark> or what chan to ask about it in
[10:17] <thedark> there is also that site access thing I mentioned earlier
[10:18] <thedark> it might seem petty but I am trying to learn Korean and the site I am trying to access is a great resource for subtitled videos
[10:18] <bazhang> give me the link
[10:19] <thedark> are you in the US?
[10:19] <thedark> or Canada
[10:19] <thedark> if so, it will work for you
[10:19] <thedark> http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-509118/someday-5/
[10:20] <thedark> here, I used to be able to access this video with hidemyass.com, but now it says "Not available in your region"
[10:22] <bazhang> thedark, same issue here it seems
[10:22] <thedark> you can't watch it?
[10:22] <thedark> what country are you in?
[10:23] <bazhang> there may be some hulu type sites though for that
[10:23] <thedark> I have been looking for this show, that was the only source I could fine
[10:23] <thedark> find
[10:26] <thedark> so the video didn't work for you?
[10:26] <thedark> what region are you in?
[10:26] <thedark> I am really curious
[10:28] <bazhang> asia region
[10:31] <thedark> oh wow
[10:31] <thedark> cool :(
[10:31] <thedark> :)
[10:32] <bazhang> let me do a search
[10:33]  * thedark nods
[10:37] <bazhang> only see trailers and such so far, thedark ; best bet is to find korean name and search that way
[10:38] <thedark> doubt I'll get English subs that way though :)
[10:38] <thedark> do you mind if I ask what country you are in?
[10:38] <thedark> I am in South Korea
[10:39] <bazhang> TW
[10:39] <bazhang> wait, if you are there, you can watch on tv
[10:40] <thedark> no subtitles lol
[10:40] <thedark> and I don't think it is still airing anyway
[10:41] <thedark> best bet would be to find a proxy tool/site that works
[10:42] <bazhang> or just learn korean and dispense all together with subs :)
[10:42] <thedark> being in Taiwan, I would have guessed you to be an expert :-P
[10:42] <thedark> well, I am working on it
[10:42] <bazhang> in Mandarin only :)
[10:44] <thedark> lol I mean in proxies and such
[10:46] <thedark> do you really know Mandarin?
[11:00] <paolo> ciao, uso kubuntu 8.10 ho problemi con la risoluzione dello schermo, all'avvio il desktop e più grande dello schermo devo andare con il puntatore sui lati dello schermo per far scorrere il dektop per poter visualizzare la parte nascosta. Impostando la risoluzione il problema svanisce fino al riavvio. Perchè?
[11:01] <thedark> I don't believe it
[11:01] <thedark> I found a solution
[11:01] <thedark> nevermind
[11:01] <thedark> :(
[11:04] <sven_> hello all, can someone tell me how I can upgrade my system to kde 4.2, i now have intrepid and kde4.1
[11:04] <Dr_willis_AAO> the topic URL tells ya - i belive
[11:15] <sven_> hello all, can someone tell me how I can upgrade my system to kde 4.2, i now have intrepid and kde4.1
[11:15] <valgaav> sven I suggest using jaunty .. it's quite stable already
[11:16] <Dr_willis_AAO>  Kubuntu 8.04.2 released! - http://www.kubuntu.org/node/69
[11:16] <valgaav> you can also add kubuntu-experimental repos to your apt sources.list and get kde 4.2 fromthere
[11:17] <Dr_willis_AAO> oopw wrong url :) there s3 in he topic
[11:17] <Dr_willis_AAO> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[11:18] <darius12_> with jaunty, latest kde, xrandr is broken for me with the opensource radeon driver
[11:19] <darius12_> it always does a "same-as" view not a "right-of"
[11:34] <usuario> hi
[11:34] <michal__> hello
[11:34] <tierras> from?
[11:35] <michal__> can anyone help me? im looking for a sudo command, that installs extras-package (or something like that), i need the java, flash and etc
[11:35] <tierras> a
[11:35] <tierras> sorri
[11:35] <michal__> i just installed kubuntu, and even amarok doesnt works propperly
[11:38] <pteague> ok, this isn't good at all...  i just changed an nvidia 8600 for an nvidia 9600 & on my main monitor it shows bios boot up, grub, & the kubuntu loading bar...  but then when it gets to the kdm login screen it goes blank :(
[11:40] <tierras> alguien sabe hablar español???
[11:40] <tierras> es solo para ayudarme
[11:41] <darius12_> tierras: look at #kubuntu-es ?
[11:41] <Dr_willis_AAO> You may need  the newer nvidia-glx driver/version
[11:42] <tierras> si
[11:42] <Dr_willis_AAO> I was thinking the 8600 used nvidia-glx, and the 9600 used nvidia-glx-new
[11:42] <tierras> pero
[11:42] <tierras> me salto eso
[11:42] <tierras> saben el otro ubuntu o como sea
[11:42] <tierras> ??
[11:43] <kaddi> i complained about a total reset of my desktop/window settings after logging back in. This happened to me for a couple more times in the last few days and by now i'm pretty convinced, that it is due to the screensaver package.
[11:44] <kaddi> i installed kscreensaver, kscreensaver-xsavers and kscreensaver-xsaver-extra
[11:45] <tierras> yo?
[11:45] <tierras> digo
[11:45] <tierras> my?
[11:45] <Dr_willis_AAO> moo?
[11:45] <tierras> 66
[11:45] <tierras> 99
[11:49] <diego_> alguien sabe ablar castellano!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????
[11:49] <diego_> o
[11:49] <diego_> español
[11:49] <kaddi> !es |diego_
[11:49] <Dr_willis_AAO> N Boblo
[11:50] <Dr_willis_AAO> No Hoblo
[11:51] <diego_> gracias
[11:51] <diego_> ubottu:gracias
[11:54] <michal__> hello
[11:54] <michal__> what is the command for restricted package installation ?
[11:55] <Slartibartfast> michal__: start you package manager
[11:55] <Slartibartfast> edit sources
[11:55] <michal__> k
[11:55] <michal__> and ?
[11:56] <giarca> michal__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:56] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:56] <bazhang> oof
[11:56] <michal__> its installing now :)
[11:57] <michal__> and one other thing...i have some sites that cannot be opened...
[11:57] <Slartibartfast> yeah .. thats also possible :-P
[11:57] <michal__> it can be a matter of java or something?
[11:57] <Slartibartfast> what sites ? ..... get an error?
[11:57] <giarca> an example?
[11:58] <michal__> for example its my homebanking site
[11:58] <michal__> im loggin and get the info that the site isnt fully loaded...
[11:58] <Slartibartfast> maybe thats Internet Explorer only ...... some sites are like that .... thank MS for that
[11:59] <michal__> when i was using Win with Firefox i was login at it without any probs
[11:59] <Slartibartfast> OK
[12:00] <Slartibartfast> maybe the site indeed uses java for some athentication
[12:00] <Slartibartfast> *authentication
[12:00] <michal__> im working at that bank, whole service is based on Java
[12:00] <bazhang> user-agent-switcher firefox plugin sometimes works
[12:01] <Slartibartfast> then you should check if java is installed
[12:01] <bazhang> id as ie8/vista while in firefox
[12:02] <Slartibartfast> michal__: apt-cache search lets you see a lot of java related packages .....
[12:02] <Slartibartfast> apt-cache search java
[12:02] <Slartibartfast> like sun-java6-plugin
[12:03] <Slartibartfast> install with sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[12:03] <Slartibartfast> and restart your browser
[12:06] <gerard_> first time on line?
[12:11] <michal__> its java 6
[12:11] <michal__> installed with restricted packages
[12:12] <Slartibartfast> OK ...
[12:12] <Slartibartfast> see if that site works now
[12:12] <michal__> maybe some component is missing :/
[12:12] <michal__> nope
[12:13] <Slartibartfast> so the firefox plugin is also installed?
[12:14] <michal__> hmm, i dont think so...
[12:14] <michal__> how can i get those?
[12:14] <Slartibartfast> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[12:15] <michal__> should i reboot after that ?
[12:15] <Slartibartfast> nooooo
[12:15] <Slartibartfast> just restart your browser
[12:16] <michal__> k
[12:16] <AlexZion> hi everyone ..., I have a little problem when I switch off my computer ...
[12:16] <AlexZion> every goes well until the end , but the display remains on with the kubuntu logo on it ...
[12:17] <michal__> still nothing...
[12:17] <michal__> site not fully loaded
[12:17] <Slartibartfast> sorry michal__ not really know what else you can try
[12:17] <michal__> it happends when im entering my loggin and pin
[12:18] <michal__> its probobly a matter of using any other OS then win :(
[12:18] <term1nat0r> hello! is anybody who can speek in Russian? :)
[12:18] <Slartibartfast> not unthinkable the site is checking what kind of OS you use
[12:19] <michal__> i dont know what to do ...
[12:19] <bazhang> !ru
[12:19] <michal__> im not going to downgrade to win again
[12:19] <Slartibartfast> Maybe you can run qinxp in a virtualbox
[12:19] <Slartibartfast> winxp
[12:19] <term1nat0r> thanks
[12:20] <Slartibartfast> thats how i also use some websites which are IE only .... (or windows only)
[12:23] <Dr_willis_AAO> ive seen sites do stupid things whenthe 'user agent' in the browsers are set to other  things. :)
[12:23] <Dr_willis_AAO> but most are not 'ie' only - they just want you to think that. :)
[12:23] <Dr_willis_AAO> Unless of course they are usng activex or other stuff like that.
[12:25] <michal__> hmm, im gonna try that
[12:26] <Slartibartfast> michal__: if you type in the address bar "about:plugins" you see the java plugin(s)
[12:29] <sven_> hello all, I have update to kde 4.2 but now my local language and english are "messed up", some features are in the local language, other in english, how can I fix this?
[12:30] <tata> salut all
[12:31] <tata> h
[12:31] <cuznt> this is my flash error
[12:31] <cuznt> Error: getPlayer().playRadio is not a function
[12:31] <cuznt> Source File: http://www.hos.com/libJS/FlashBridge.js
[12:31] <cuznt> Line: 37
[12:31] <tata> h
[12:31] <tata> h
[12:31] <tata> h
[12:32] <Dr_willis_AAO> hmm
[12:32] <cuznt> !language
[12:32] <cuznt> hhe
[12:32] <cuznt> not that one
[12:33] <remaXlo> hi!
[12:33] <timahvo1> what is the kde equivalent of gnome-do ?
[12:34] <remaXlo> i have installed ubuntu (8.10) and want to switch to kubuntu
[12:34] <remaXlo> but the official FAQ only mentions intructions that apply to ubuntu < 8.10
[12:34] <Dr_willis_AAO> Install kubuntu-desktop, pick kde at the KDM login.. there ya go
[12:34] <Dr_willis_AAO> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <remaXlo> i.e., there seem not to be instructions for going from ubuntu 8.10 to kubuntu 8.10
[12:35] <remaXlo> any ideas?
[12:35] <Dr_willis_AAO> Its all the same..
[12:35] <Dr_willis_AAO> install 'kubuntu-desktop' meta package.. and you will get the full kubuntu-desktop alongside the gnome ubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <remaXlo> ok, thanks!!
[12:36] <remaXlo> see ya!
[12:36] <timahvo1> hi everybody am new to Kubuntu and was wondering if there are any good launchers out there along the lines of gnome-do
[12:36] <timahvo1> anyone?
[12:38] <michal__> im gonna just get the whole pack of plugins for the firefox
[12:50] <sven_> hello, Some language settings are not ok in kde4.2, can someone help me?
[12:56] <yowshi> i need msome help trying to reinstall my old drivers after a failed atempt to inastall the latest in thew 180.xx series?
[12:57] <bazhang> install from nvidia site?
[13:03] <Dr_willis_AAO> !envyng
[13:03] <Dr_willis_AAO> I recall some wiki pages on 'installing the latest' but ive never needed tto do so
[13:10] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[13:10] <kaddi> moin :)
[13:20] <Laeborg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5200135&postcount=5 - im trying this, but when I try ./configure it says its missing the jack package, but apt-get says the jack package is the newest version
[13:23] <Tm_T> Laeborg: you need -dev packages when compiling usually
[13:25] <Laeborg> thank you Tm_T
[13:26] <Laeborg> i need a package called pygtk-2.0, but i can't find it
[13:27] <Laeborg> under apt-cache search
[13:27] <Tm_T> Laeborg: python packages has python- in their names in Ubuntu
[13:28] <Laeborg> ah okay
[13:28] <Tm_T> Laeborg: so it would be python-gtk what you're looking for
[13:28] <Tm_T> and -dev again if you're compiling
[13:28] <Tm_T> Laeborg: add "2" to appropriate place
[13:28] <Laeborg> python-gtk2-dev ?
[13:29] <Laeborg> i can find that package
[13:29] <amerigo> hello.... after a kde error signal11 .... my lower bar disappear....
[13:30] <amerigo> kubunt 8.04
[13:30] <Tm_T> Laeborg: "apt-cache search python | grep gtk | grep dev" gives me python-gtk2-dev
[13:31] <Laeborg> yes installed that package - that works fine
[13:31] <vbgunz> how do you restart the notification icon in the system tray? its stuck on something stupid thats been over ions ago :/
[13:35] <noren> hi guys
[13:35] <noren> need simple help !!
[13:36] <noren> what is the name of the widget which shows all the runing program on the right hand corner of the panel
[13:37] <Tm_T> noren: taskbar ?
[13:37] <Tm_T> noren: task manager if you mean that one
[13:41] <|zaphod|> 'lo
[13:42]  * Slartibartfast waves towel ...... *zap*
[13:43] <shadowhywind> does anyone have any ideas on how to change the desktop picture from the console?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> shadowhywind, why ?
[13:46] <shadowhywind> BluesKaj: I have this "bad" idea that whenever my CPU's stay above 100% for x amount of time, my wallpaper will change to something(red) as a signal of Hay idiot look at me!
[13:47] <wathek> hello all
[13:47] <Guest72942> brasileiro?
[13:47] <Jan|> what can I do with KDE I can't do with GNOME ?
[13:47] <wathek> where can I find Qt 4.5 RC1 I mean in which repo ?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> shadowhywind , then there's something else amiss with your system. Wallpaper should be the least of your worries.
[13:48] <BluesKaj> !pt | Guest72942
[13:48] <shadowhywind> BluesKaj: my system is fine, its more when I am programming, and I screw up a loop, hehe. Eclipse for somereason doesn't end the program before I run it again
[13:50] <BluesKaj> maybe eclipse is the problem
[13:50] <vbgunz> anyone knopw how I can reset my notification icon in the system tray?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> vbgunz,  in adept/sources/edit software sources/updates
[13:53] <vbgunz> does suspending to ram or disk work for anyone here after following a guide or something? I can never suspend successfully... has anyone been able to do so with the help of a guide or tool or something?
[13:54] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: was that message really meant for me?
[13:54] <vbgunz> how does that fix the notification icon?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> check the box
[13:55] <vbgunz> ok, will check it out, am upgrading right now with apt-get... one sec
[13:55] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, then update
[13:56] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: so, doing that fixes the notification trouble I am having OR the suspend issue I was talking about?
[13:57] <vbgunz> I head the suspend was fixed in 2.6.29 I believed but not even jaunty would ship with it :/
[13:57] <vbgunz> ok, I'll try it now, am done upgrading
[13:57] <koperton> hi guys :)
[13:58] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: nothing there to check, everything is checked :/
[13:59] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: I pressed reset, and nothing happened :(
[14:00] <BluesKaj> hmm, it used to work
[14:00] <BluesKaj> ok , try the widget route , vbgunz
[14:01] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: hmmm. the notification is embedded into the system tray...
[14:04] <vbgunz> damn, I killed knotify4 just to see what would happen. well, the icon in the system tray is still there
[14:04] <BluesKaj> sry, vbgunz, guess i've forgotten how i fixed it ...it was a while ago
[14:05] <vbgunz> no problem, better than no idea :)
[14:05] <vbgunz> or worse (it works for me)
[14:05] <BluesKaj> yeah
[14:07] <vbgunz> holy cow, I pulled the notification itself off the tray and crashed plasma
[14:07] <vbgunz> heh, but the icon is gone now
[14:09] <koperton> xD
[14:16] <BluesKaj> yeah, vbgunz plasma still blacks out sometimes if i run an app in wine
[14:17] <BluesKaj> it doesn't crash , just gives me black wallpaper
[14:23] <amerigo> hello.... after a kde error signal11 .... my lower bar disappear.... I can't access to programm and setting ... Kubuntu 8.04
[14:24] <_Myself_> hey
[14:24] <_Myself_> what did you do to get that error?
[14:25] <amerigo> i was browsing some web pages... about "script and scripting"
[14:26] <amerigo> _Myself_: but nothing in particular
[14:26] <_Myself_> yes it doesn't seem to be the problem
[14:27] <_Myself_> maybe you can get your bar back by starting kcontrol?
[14:27] <amerigo> _Myself_: what sound i do?
[14:27] <amerigo> _Myself_: what should i do?
[14:27] <_Myself_> Press Alt+F2
[14:27] <_Myself_> and start kcontrol
[14:27] <_Myself_> I don't have KDE any more, so I can't give you a step by step instruction
[14:28] <_Myself_> but maybe it's enough to reactivate it
[14:28] <amerigo> ok
[14:29] <amerigo> done
[14:29] <_Myself_> did it work?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> amerigo: if you are using kde and missing your bottom bar, run plasma
[14:29] <thedark> Hello everyone.  Firefox crashes whenever I try to make a youtube video fullscreen, here is the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/124261/
[14:29] <shadeslayer> i want to find a way to reset everything
[14:29] <shadeslayer> in kubuntu
[14:30] <amerigo> _Myself_: I'm trying to see but setting seems to be right
[14:30] <amerigo> ActionParsnip1: Plasma?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> amerigo: the bottom bar in kde 4 is called plasma, in 3.5 its called kicker
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: rename ~/.kde and reboot
[14:32] <shadeslayer> uh thatll change just my DE
[14:32] <amerigo> ok ... but I have done
[14:32] <shadeslayer> basically CPU scaling is disabled
[14:32] <amerigo> thank you... setting seems to be right ... but i have resored defoult
[14:32] <shadeslayer> ive tried everything
[14:33] <shadeslayer> but cant start it
[14:33] <cuznt> ok i installed opera and the flash works on there. it is also listed in my firefox programs. but when i go to use it in firefox, or seamonkey or epiphany it will not work
[14:33] <cuznt> kde 4.2
[14:33] <julian_> hello everyone, i have a problem with my ubuntu 8.10. always that i wnat to turn up or down the volume, the volume doesnt change
[14:34] <fillip> hello, I would like to start a new session like kmenu -> new session but I don't know the dcop function. Can anyone help me?
[14:35] <cuznt> i tried the adobe link as directed, but it would not let me install it as I have the latest version
[14:36] <fillip> Where I can find the applet for starts a new session?
[14:36] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: i cant get CPU frequency scaling enabled
[14:36] <shadeslayer> kpowersave wont scale
[14:37] <BluesKaj> cuznt , install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: are you 32bit or 64bit?
[14:38] <cuznt> 32 bit
[14:38] <cuznt> it is all installed
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: you could get the tar.gz from www.adobe.com and put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[14:38] <cuznt> along with swf players every possible suggestion with synaptic was installed
[14:38] <cuznt> i did that action it told me i had the latest player
[14:39] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: uninstall the swfplayer and stuff like that, gnash too, if you have multiple flash stuffs they conflict and you get nothing
[14:39] <cuznt> ok i will try thanks
[14:39] <wyginwys> hi I have a question
[14:39] <wyginwys> I have Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE4.2
[14:39] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: any idea??
[14:40] <BluesKaj> aha cuznt, there's anew version of flashplugin-nonfree, that's been fixed to run with latest FF ..and i agree with ActionParsnip1...flashplayers do nothing for you except create probs
[14:40] <wyginwys> I have been using Kubuntu since 2+ years and do necessary upgrades when it is available on repos
[14:40] <BluesKaj> flashplugis are a diff strory
[14:40] <cuznt> i did not know that.
[14:40] <wyginwys> after upgrading from KDE3 to KDE4 I faced with problems
[14:41] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: its not something ive ever looked into, i just let cool n quiet do its thing. hence why i buy amd
[14:41] <wyginwys> I hoped KDE 4.2 will solve my problems but it didnt
[14:41] <BluesKaj> cuznt, have you been updating your sources ?
[14:41] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:41] <wyginwys> Now X server crashes all the time
[14:41] <shadeslayer> i have intel
[14:41] <cuznt> updating as in how
[14:41] <wyginwys> I mean
[14:41] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: it was working fine for 2 weeks
[14:41] <shadeslayer> ^^
[14:42] <wyginwys> I face 4-5 crashes daily
[14:42] <shadeslayer> :O
[14:42] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: what has changed since? new kernel maybe?
[14:42] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:42] <shadeslayer> i have no idea
[14:42] <wyginwys> I installed other desktop envs like xubuntu and gnome
[14:42] <wyginwys> but my problem still goes on
[14:42] <shadeslayer> me too
[14:42] <shadeslayer> ><
[14:42] <ActionParsnip1> wyginwys: its not for everyone, mine crashed too. kwin has never liked me. I use fluxbox
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> kde yes, kwin no thank you
[14:43] <wyginwys> should i use fluxbox?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> wyginwys: its worth a try
[14:43] <wyginwys> neither gnome nor xubuntu helped me
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> wyginwys: you can always remove it if you dislike
[14:44] <wyginwys> I know
[14:44] <bazhang> or lxde
[14:45] <wyginwys> ActionParsnip1: did you try gnome or xubuntu and faced the similar problems?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip1> wyginwys: ive always use kde through all my linux systems
[14:46] <ActionParsnip1> blame mandrake for that :)
[14:46] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:46] <shadeslayer> i m starting Jaunty now
[14:46] <ActionParsnip1> i havent tried gnome but i tried xfce and it was ok
[14:46] <shadeslayer> XFCE is good
[14:47] <shadeslayer> GNOME is in between KDE and XFCE
[14:47] <wyginwys> xfce is crashing too on my machine
[14:47] <shadeslayer> :O
[14:47] <shadeslayer> the alpha cd is bad i think
[14:47] <shadeslayer> brb
[14:47] <wyginwys> IMO this must be a problem with X server
[14:47] <ActionParsnip1> i tried jaunty, and it kinda sucked so i jumped back to intrepid
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> wyginwys: log a bug
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> !bug
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> !bug 2
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> !bug1
[14:49] <wyginwys> ActionParsnip1: need to read lots of pages etc etc, so I prefer  staying with pains
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> wyginwys: pages?
[14:50] <wyginwys> pages of bugs' site
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> wyginwys: true, thats why i wait a few months after a release to get a groovy install
[14:51] <wyginwys> need to find similar bugs before reporting a new bug
[14:52] <ActionParsnip1> wyginwys: it will be marked as duplicate if it is, just log it
[14:52] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: any idea how to enable CPU frequency scaling
[14:55] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, what do you want to do , defeat scaling ?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[14:56] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:56] <shadeslayer> doesnt work
[14:56] <shadeslayer> tried previously
[14:56] <shadeslayer> ><
[14:57] <shadeslayer> this too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248867&page=1
[14:57] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: its gutsy but it may fly: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/cpu-scaling-in-gutsy-595066/
[14:58] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, I just removed powernowd to get my cpu to work at full speed
[14:59] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:59] <shadeslayer> well ill like to use kpowersave on battery
[14:59] <BluesKaj> oh , laptops
[14:59] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:00] <shadeslayer> well the thing is that the module wont load now
[15:00] <shadeslayer> it loaded earlier
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: if you modprobe it manually, do you get errors?
[15:01] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: http://pastebin.com/d454b3bb1
[15:01] <shadeslayer> yes
[15:02] <shadeslayer> with speedstep
[15:02] <carpii> if i want to create one big fat32 partition on a usb stick, what sort of partition should i create ?  extended or primary?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> but with the general command no
[15:02] <shadeslayer> the acpi one
[15:02] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-531197.html
[15:04] <draik_> Is Jaunty's appearance to be the same as Intrepid with KDE4.2?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: ask in kubuntu+1
[15:05] <draik_> 10-4
[15:05] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> tthere too
[15:05] <draik_> It redirects, so no biggie
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> shabba
[15:06] <draik_> I'm really curious as to what is causing my desktop to freeze and lose the Internet connection from time to time.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: when it goes bad, run dmesg | tail
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: you'll see whats going on hopefully
[15:07] <draik_> OK. I'll have to do that when I get back to it. Thanks.
[15:09] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: http://pastebin.com/d67f4225c
[15:11] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: you may have to compile some stuff to get it working. like the modules for scaling maybe
[15:11] <shadeslayer> ojk
[15:11] <shadeslayer> *ok
[15:11] <shadeslayer> im free
[15:11] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[15:11] <shadeslayer> my exams just got over today
[15:12] <WaltzingAlong> carpii: primary
[15:12] <carpii> thanks :)
[15:15] <thedark> is it possible to use kubuntu 8.10 with kde 3?
[15:15] <thedark> if so, how can I got back?
[15:15] <shadeslayer> !apt
[15:16] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: ?
[15:16] <gernot> hello, since kde4.2 i have to reload my xmodmap everytime after waking up my suspended laptop. does somebody know what changed there (since 4.1 and before) and if there is a fix?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip1> gernot: maybe if you put them in /etc/X11/Xmodmap it will be ran when x starts
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> gernot: standby /hibernate is hard to get nice
[15:24] <WaltzingAlong> thedark: not through standard packages
[15:25] <WaltzingAlong> thedark: but yes you could install on your computer whatever you wanted
[15:26] <thedark> how?
[15:26] <thedark> ??
[15:28] <WaltzingAlong> thedark: probably more work than you want and it would not be standard "kubuntu 8.10"; grab the src, install from there
[15:28] <thedark> ugh you are right
[15:28] <thedark> forget it
[15:28] <thedark> time to try a new distro
[15:28] <WaltzingAlong> otherwise, if you want kde3 then you do not want kubuntu 8.10
[15:28] <thedark> yeah I screwed up
[15:28] <chairman> hey guys what's been going on
[15:28] <WaltzingAlong> thedark: other distro like kubuntu 8.04 ? :D
[15:28] <thedark> but I am a casual user, if there is an update button I click it
[15:29] <thedark> yeah can I downgrade?
[15:29] <thedark> is that possible?
[15:29] <chairman> i want to know how to make the ring spin on ring switcher
[15:29] <thedark> 8.04 was great
[15:29] <thedark> firefox wasn't crashing
[15:29] <thedark> videos didn't skip
[15:29] <thedark> then this new version came and everything went to hell
[15:30] <thedark> from 7.10, when I started with Kubuntu, things just got better
[15:30] <shadeslayer> please can i curse once
[15:30] <WaltzingAlong> thedark: as far as i know there is not a "downgrade" option but it could be forced. it would be better to install fresh. (luckily you partitioned to make that really easy, /home on its own partition so / could be formatted)
[15:30] <WaltzingAlong> thedark: how about turning off the "desktop effects"?
[15:30] <thedark> I did already
[15:31] <shadeslayer> generic curse
[15:31] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:31] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: its alive,its alive
[15:31] <shadeslayer> i mean it works works
[15:31] <shadeslayer> OMG
[15:31] <shadeslayer> everything works
[15:31] <shadeslayer> ><
[15:32] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: what did you have to do?
[15:32]  * shadeslayer is happy with *buntu for the first time
[15:32] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: powernowd i think
[15:32] <shadeslayer> ><
[15:32] <thedark> ugh it is just such a hassle backing up everything and then reinstalling Skype, Mnemosyne, the video players, flash, dvd support...ughhhhhhhhhhh
[15:32] <thedark> not to mention the install process itself
[15:32] <thedark> I was so happy with Kubuntu
[15:33] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: whats the command to kill Apt
[15:33] <thedark> I have been pure linux for close to a year now
[15:33] <ActionParsnip1> thedark: you should have a backup anyway
[15:33] <thedark> well, I use VMware
[15:33] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:33] <thedark> and not until
[15:33] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: ps -ef | grep apt
[15:33] <shadeslayer> i use vm ware for alphas and betas
[15:33] <thedark> now have I been so frustrated that I felt I really had to abandon a distro
[15:33] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:33] <shadeslayer> doesnt work
[15:33] <bazhang> its not that bad
[15:33] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: why do you wanna kill apt?
[15:34] <shadeslayer> i wanted to install a deb file
[15:34] <thedark> I left puppy for kubuntu because it was limited, not because it was crashing or videos weren't playing right
[15:34] <ActionParsnip1> thedark: not all distros are for everyone
[15:34] <shadeslayer> and it says close other package managers
[15:34] <thedark> yeah but I loved Kubuntu!
[15:34] <WaltzingAlong> hence multiple distros
[15:34] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:34] <bazhang> other distro support = crickets
[15:34] <shadeslayer> lol
[15:34] <thedark> its like being married for years and then your wife becomes a scientologist
[15:34] <shadeslayer> ubuntu has good support
[15:34] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:34] <thedark> ok I know that
[15:34] <ActionParsnip1> gentoo has good support too :)
[15:34] <shadeslayer> but kubuntu is faster
[15:34] <thedark> I chose Ubuntu because I need the help, I don't know about the computers
[15:34] <shadeslayer> in support
[15:35] <thedark> and Kubuntu is easy to use
[15:35] <shadeslayer> yeah,similar to windows
[15:35] <thedark> that is why I am upset over the prospect of changing
[15:35] <thedark> I was so happy with 8.04
[15:35] <bazhang> the sooner you start the sooner it will happen
[15:35] <draik_> I've been using Kubuntu as of June 1, 2006
[15:35] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: any idea? i think it was a long command ;)
[15:35] <draik_> I've had my issues, but nothing too major
[15:35] <bazhang> then dont upgrade when it first comes out
[15:36] <thedark> then I upgraded and had to do a clean install after it broke my system (thanks), then things were crashing so I had to turn off all effects etc., and the firefox/video problems still persist now
[15:36] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: fluxbuntu is faster still :)
[15:36] <thedark> it is just a pain
[15:36] <wathek> I need to get qt 4.5 rc1 which is in the jaunty repos is it possible to add the jaunty repos to my kubuntu intrepid to update qt ?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: why do you want to kill apt?
[15:36] <shadeslayer> :|
[15:36] <shadeslayer> told you
[15:36] <thedark> bazhang: yeah I know that now
[15:36] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | wathek
[15:36] <wathek> ok thanx
[15:36] <shadeslayer> wanna install a deb file,deb file says another manager working
[15:37] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: to install a deb: sudo dpkg -i <debfile>
[15:37] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: make sure yuo have no package apps open, including apt which you can kill by pid using the command i gave you
[15:37] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: if that fails use:
[15:37] <ActionParsnip1> !fixapt
[15:37] <shadeslayer> yeah thats the one
[15:38] <shadeslayer> ><
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: apt isnt running, it just forgot to unlock the packages
[15:38] <thedark> if I have video problems in Kubuntu 8.10, will the same be true in Xubuntu or Ubuntu(gnome)?
[15:38] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:38] <shadeslayer> yayy
[15:38] <bazhang> thedark, try them out and see
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> thedark: possibly, each DE handles stuff differently but the drivers willl be identical
[15:39] <thedark> ugh, so much fun
[15:39]  * shadeslayer gets back to writing the proposal for the LUG
[15:39] <thedark> LiveCD time
[15:39] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:39] <ActionParsnip1> livecd is mint
[15:39] <thedark> I haven't burned a cd since 7.10
[15:39] <thedark> that is how content I was
[15:39] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:39] <thedark> I feel like I am getting divorced
[15:39] <shadeslayer> i order one
[15:39] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:40] <shadeslayer> free ones
[15:40]  * ActionParsnip1 uses minimal
[15:40] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:40] <shadeslayer> love the stickers
[15:40] <thedark> now I am going to burn Xubuntu, Mandriva
[15:40] <ActionParsnip1> saves downloading a cd, then downloading updates for the stuff you just installed
[15:40] <shadeslayer> though they should change to new ones
[15:40] <ActionParsnip1> mandriva is niiiice
[15:40] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:40] <thedark> well I am told Mandriva and Ubuntu had the best Asian language input support
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> thedark: i'd imagine they all have different implementations
[15:41] <thedark> another headache I look forward to facing when I switch
[15:41] <shadeslayer> why doesnt canonical change to smaller,powerbuntu stickers
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> could try fedora or suse or even slackware
[15:41] <shadeslayer> like the ones windows uses
[15:41] <thedark> I get it setup here
[15:41] <thedark> and now, gotta do it again
[15:41] <thedark> hoo freaking ray
[15:42] <thedark> then that distro will update and I will hang myself
[15:42] <shadeslayer> brb
[15:43] <ActionParsnip1> top 10 distros by website visit http://paste.ubuntu.com/124294/
[15:43]  * thedark ddts Kubuntu
[15:43] <rad1game> всем привет
[15:43] <ActionParsnip1> !ru
[15:44] <thedark> PCLinuxOs is still around?
[15:44] <thedark> I thought that was discontinued
[15:44] <thedark> that was my first real distro
[15:44] <thedark> I loved it
[15:44] <thedark> if it is still supported I will definitely try it out
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[15:45] <ActionParsnip1> thedark: 2007 iso, im guessing its dead
[15:45] <shadeslayer> :( the vbox installation hung up i think
[15:45] <shadeslayer> oh no
[15:45] <shadeslayer> it was completed
[15:45] <shadeslayer> lol
[15:45] <thedark> figures
[15:46] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: dont forget the vbox group membership ;)
[15:46] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:46] <shadeslayer> did it
[15:46] <shadeslayer> bah jaunty wont start
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> did you md5 check your iso and check the cd once it was burned?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:47] <shadeslayer> using the ISO
[15:47] <shadeslayer> on vbox
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> try using some boot options
[15:48] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions
[15:48] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: how do i check a files actuall size??
[15:48] <shadeslayer> as in disk sixe
[15:48] <shadeslayer> *z
[15:48] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: du -h <file>
[15:51] <shadeslayer> haha
[15:51] <shadeslayer> all the ISO i was using were partially completed files
[15:51] <shadeslayer> the actual file was in /home
[15:51] <shadeslayer> ><
[15:52] <shadeslayer> yayy
[15:52] <shadeslayer> works
[15:53]  * shadeslayer is off to try jaunty
[15:53] <shadeslayer> hmm loading bar needs some work
[15:55] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: if you md5'd you would see it as failed
[15:55] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:55] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: as you would have md5 tested the wrong file
[15:55] <shadeslayer> no it works
[15:55] <shadeslayer> i actually suplied the worng file
[15:55] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: the md5 isnt their for a laugh, its essential to know what you have downloaded is EXACTLY right
[15:55] <shadeslayer> *wrong
[15:55] <shadeslayer> yeah i know
[15:56] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: I'm back into my desktop install as opposed to the Jaunty LiveCD. Current last entry in 'dmesg | tail' is "eth0: no IPv6 routers present"
[15:56] <draik_> Desktop froze :(
[15:57] <draik_> Here we go again
[15:57] <shadeslayer> draik_: it works
[15:57] <shadeslayer> jaunty
[15:58] <draik_> shadeslayer: What was it?
[15:58] <shadeslayer> wrong ISO ><
[15:58] <draik_> LOL. Walter Talks Fast?
[15:58] <shadeslayer> hehe
[15:58] <draik_> Woohoo, frozen at login
[15:59] <draik_> Rebooting again
[15:59] <shadeslayer> no i actually had partially downloaded ISO's
[15:59] <shadeslayer> 60 MB
[15:59] <shadeslayer> 65 MB
[15:59] <draik_> That would do it
[15:59] <draik_> You have about a tenth of the CD.
[15:59] <draik_> Rather, ISO
[16:00] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:00] <shadeslayer> btw how do i change my usplash image
[16:00] <draik_> How do I uninstall nepomukservices?
[16:01] <shadeslayer> i want to change it to ubuntu's splash image,i have splshy
[16:02] <draik_> dmesg | tail is "nepomukservices[5982]: segfault at 4 ip b7da87e2 sp bfcaf2a0 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.4.3[b7d55000+225000]"
[16:05] <draik_> How do I remove/uninstall nepomukservices? Or at the very least, get it fixed?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: dpkg -l | grep nepo
[16:07] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Nothing listed
[16:07] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: then its not installed, it is part of some other package
[16:08] <draik_> :(
[16:09] <_Myself_> seems like its part of libplasma2.0-cli
[16:09] <_Myself_> *-cil
[16:09] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: appears to be part of network manager
[16:09] <draik_> Off hand, does anyone know of a good translation app? I want to learn a few different languages. Mostly greetings, thanks, you're welcome, yes/no, etc.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: try this: http://localhost:8181/server/index.html
[16:10] <ActionParsnip1> http://dev.nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/wiki/UsageProblems
[16:11] <Bauldrick> I lost the top toolbar in all my applications after upgrade - how can I get back to default?
[16:11] <_Myself_> http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
[16:11] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: That first link was dead (localhost); Page Cannot Be Displayed
[16:11] <ActionParsnip1> NEPOMUK brings together researchers, industrial software developers, and representative industrial users, to develop a comprehensive solution for extending the personal desktop into a collaboration environment which supports both the personal information management and the sharing and exchange across social and organizational relations.
[16:11] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: i'm just getting it off their site
[16:13] <draik_> The last tool is great, but too bad it's for a Mac
[16:14] <emad> hello
[16:15] <draik_> How do I uninstall the network manager?
[16:15] <draik_> kNetworkManager?
[16:15] <emad> i don,t know
[16:15] <cuznt> did yours stop working/
[16:15] <cuznt> mine did on my other hard drive
[16:16] <sorset> hi , can i use middle clcik of mouse for page up and down like winodes?paste instead ...
[16:17] <avminx> .
[16:17] <draik_> How do I go about uninstalling the current network manager being mauled to death by nepomuk?
[16:18] <cuznt> after uninstalling the swf gnash etc garbage... i rebooted my pc. now my etho will not connect
[16:18] <cuznt> i am on my other harddrive now
[16:19] <avminx> can I speak here?
[16:19] <draik_> avminx: Yes
[16:19] <cuznt> !ask
[16:19] <avminx> hehe
[16:19] <avminx> ok
[16:20] <draik_> Most likely, but not really ;)
[16:20] <cuznt> why is nepomuk mauling it
[16:20] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: ifconfig eth0   do you have an ip address?
[16:20] <avminx> bye ;-)
[16:20] <draik_> cuznt: dmesg | tail is "nepomukservices[5982]: segfault at 4 ip b7da87e2 sp bfcaf2a0 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.4.3[b7d55000+225000]"
[16:20] <cuznt> i do not have to enter it manually
[16:20] <draik_> I have just lost Internet connection on the desktop :(
[16:21] <cuznt> after a reboot draik?
[16:21] <draik_> ppdev0: registered pardevice
[16:21] <draik_> ppdev0: unregistered pardevice
[16:21] <draik_> That's listed 3 times and then...
[16:22] <cuznt> actionparsnip1 i actually made a new connection and deleted my old one.
[16:22] <cuznt> that worked once but now...
[16:22] <draik_> NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 16, Head 00000000 Count 00023bb3
[16:23] <draik_> cuznt: That's what I got from dmesg | tail after I rebooted my system cuz it froze.
[16:23] <cuznt> the one i am on now has no manually entered info either
[16:23] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: fine, as long as it flys. I dont use nm i think its garbage
[16:24] <draik_> I have an IP listed in ifconfig, but that doesn't mean anything.
[16:24] <cuznt> ok is there a way to use something else and install it from disk actionparsnip1 ?
[16:24] <cuznt> i did use something else before when i was 3.5
[16:24] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: manually edit /etc/network/interfaces
[16:25] <cuznt> right on draik i was trying to see if maybe our probs were related
[16:25] <draik_> sudo ifconfig eth0 down && sudo ifconfig eth0 up doesn't do anything. I don't get an IP
[16:26] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: its: sudo ifdown etho && sudo ifup eth0
[16:27] <ActionParsnip1> you get the idea
[16:27] <ActionParsnip1> my typing sucks today
[16:28] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: sudo ifdown eth0 = ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[16:28] <cuznt> ok i have pulled /etc/network/interfaces | # The loopback network interface  auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface auto eth0
[16:29] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: sudo ifup eth0 = Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[16:29] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: do you see the device in: ifconfig
[16:30] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: try adding an entry for it in your /etc/network/interfaces
[16:30] <emad> hello
[16:30] <emad> how are you
[16:31] <cuznt> both my /etc/network/interfaces are identical
[16:31] <draik_> Yes
[16:31] <blackflag> !akonadi
[16:31] <emad> draik
[16:32] <emad> are you ok
[16:32] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Just add 'eth0' to the list?
[16:32] <draik_> Nothing else after that?
[16:32] <emad> ok
[16:34] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: something like:
[16:34] <ActionParsnip1> auto eth0
[16:34] <ActionParsnip1> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[16:34] <draik_> Got it
[16:34] <emad> i like what
[16:34] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: you will need to run: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:34] <draik_> Leave iface lo alone, right?
[16:34] <cuznt> auto eth0  #iface eth0 inet dhcp
[16:35] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: yes, leave that
[16:35] <cuznt> is mine action do i need to delete the # ?
[16:35] <draik_> cuznt: Why would I comment out that line?
[16:35] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: the # makes it a comment
[16:35] <draik_> cuznt: Remove the hash
[16:35] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: if you remove it, it will be read
[16:35] <cuznt> so leave it in there?
[16:36] <cuznt> or remove it.. that is what mine reads on both /etc/network/interfaces
[16:36] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: remove the #
[16:36] <draik_> Sorry for the 3-line flood.. cuznt, this is what you want to have...
[16:36] <cuznt> ty
[16:36] <draik_> auto eth0
[16:36] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: pastebin the file if you wish
[16:36] <draik_> iface lo inet loopback
[16:37] <cuznt> okey dokey
[16:37] <draik_> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[16:37] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: pastebin the file if you wish
[16:37] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: I did as you instructed and I still don't have 'net access. No IP
[16:37] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: did you restart networking?
[16:38] <draik_> Yup
[16:38] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: ok, do you see eth0 in ifconfig?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: you may want to check the output of: sudo lshw -C network
[16:39] <cuznt> in old kde there was sudo kate how can i edit my /etc/network/interfaces as root?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces
[16:39] <ActionParsnip1> cuznt: sudo kate is incorrect
[16:39] <cuznt> ty
[16:39] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: What am I looking for in the output?
[16:40] <draik_> eth0 seems fine
[16:40] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: does it have an ip address
[16:40] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Nope
[16:41] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: ok is the cable connected ok and do you have flashing lights on the interface?
[16:41] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: It's a light show like Vegas
[16:43] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: I'm going to restart the computer and see if maybe that takes better effect on the situation.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: maybe
[16:44] <draik_> BRB... breakfast has just been set on the table. Be back in a few minutes.
[16:44] <tuxi> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart should have been sufficient
[16:46] <ActionParsnip1> tuxi: weirder things have happened at sea
[16:51] <bewbie1> hi all together
[16:52] <bewbie1> i am new at (or in??) linux and need a litte help with a stupid thing
[16:53] <bazhang> bewbie1, please ask
[16:53] <bewbie1> i want that this symbol "^" apears hitting the button once
[16:53] <bewbie1> i hope my englich ist understandable
[16:53] <bazhang> ^ <--that?
[16:53] <bewbie1> yeah
[16:53] <bazhang> shft 6 on US kb
[16:54] <bewbie1> i have to hit the button twice an the symbol apears one time, that means i have to hit the button 4 times for ^^
[16:54] <ActionParsnip1> shift 6 on a UK keyboard too
[16:54] <bewbie1> no, german keayboard
[16:54] <bazhang> of course :)
[16:55] <bazhang> xmodmap?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip1> we knew it was german didnt we
[16:55] <bewbie1> uh? why? is this a a german specific question?
[16:55] <bewbie1> XD
[16:59] <ActionParsnip1> bewbie1: try th ekey in the topp left according to this: http://www.aufgehts.com/images/German_Keyboard.png
[17:01] <bewbie1> sorry i dont understand ActionParsnip1 the top left key is the key that i mean, or do you mean YZ"
[17:01] <bewbie1> ?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip1> bewbie1: im just going by that image
[17:03] <whabo>  whenever i move anything on the screen ( any application/window) the screen does crazy with lines and hiccups alot
[17:03] <draik_> Ok, I'm back.
[17:03] <whabo> i think it is a problem with the graphics driver .
[17:03] <shadeslayer> hi how do i spcifically update my kernel??
[17:03] <whabo> my screen is going crazy :(
[17:04] <casimodo> #ubuntu-fr
[17:05] <shadeslayer> !kernel> shadeslayer
[17:05] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: The 'net was dropped much sooner this time around. I didn't even get the first package.
[17:06] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: read dmesg to see whats happening as well as other ubuntu logs
[17:06] <draik_> ppdev0: registered pardevice
[17:06] <draik_> ppdev0: unregistered pardevice
[17:06] <draik_> I have that listed 3 times
[17:07] <shadeslayer> so??
[17:07] <shadeslayer> how do i update my kernel??
[17:08] <bazhang> shadeslayer, why are you crossposting? the same helpers are in both channels
[17:08] <bazhang> !crosspost
[17:08] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:08] <shadeslayer> well i couldnt get a answer as per my requirements
[17:08] <bazhang> shadeslayer, do as ikonia suggested
[17:09] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:09] <shadeslayer> so no other option
[17:10] <draik_> An online search kept pointing to some form of scanner so I disconnected my 2 printers, one of which has scanning properties.
[17:10] <draik_> I think that did it
[17:10] <draik_> I think it didn't like one of my printers being on the network
[17:11] <draik_> Odd, but whatever. I HAVE INTERNET ON MY DESKTOP!
[17:11] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: sweet
[17:11] <ActionParsnip1> maybe it takes time to come up
[17:12] <draik_> I can do without that printer on the network. I have it sync'd via USB anyway. It was just for the others, which honestly don't use it
[17:12] <draik_> Now, once the updates are done, I hope that I can stop my computer from freezing.
[17:12] <shadeslayer> bazhang: well how do i set UUID??
[17:13] <bazhang> !blkid
[17:13] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Thanks a bunch for your eth0 assistance. Greatly appreciated.
[17:13] <draik_> I'm on package 67 of 1677. Not bad considering the download will be done in about 35 minutes
[17:14] <Topsu> i'd like to do a video player but what program should i use for that???????
[17:14] <draik_> The one thing I always love about the help in this channel is that I'm always getting help and I learn a bunch of commands to further see the issue and find the root of the problem. Thanks all.
[17:14] <bazhang> !players | Topsu
[17:15] <Topsu> but i want to do my one
[17:15] <bazhang> which one
[17:16] <Topsu> video player
[17:16] <bazhang> Topsu, see the list above?
[17:16] <Topsu> yes
[17:16] <bazhang> Topsu, there are several listed there
[17:17] <Topsu> but i want to create a video player
[17:17] <bazhang> Topsu, code one or compile one and why
[17:17] <Topsu> just for fun
[17:18] <bazhang> !compile
[17:18] <whabo> topsu do you know programming languages?
[17:18] <bazhang> !b-e
[17:18] <draik_> If all goes well, I'm going to play me a round of golf. I haven't played in a while due to weather, but today seems like a good time (if all goes well).
[17:18] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: np man, its fun troubleshooting stuff
[17:18] <Topsu> c++ , html. java-script
[17:18] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: also build my own knowledge
[17:18] <bazhang> Topsu, install build-essential
[17:18] <Topsu> ok
[17:19] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: I agree. I just wish I knew the commands like you so that I can better begin looking into issues.
[17:19] <Topsu> sudo apt-get install build-essential??
[17:19] <draik_> Topsu: Yes
[17:19] <ActionParsnip1> Topsu: i'd contact other video player teams for someadvice
[17:19] <draik_> slowly but surely, I'll get things down and live happily ever after with my Kubuntu OS.
[17:19] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: its taken me a while, it comes with time
[17:20] <minialter> tes
[17:20] <shadeslayer> bazhang: one more thing,i want to enable the loading bar
[17:20] <shadeslayer> how do i do that??
[17:20] <draik_> I've been using Kubuntu for almost 3 years. I hope to know more each day and better my troubleshooting skills
[17:20] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: do you mean the bootsplash when linux first loads?
[17:20] <shadeslayer> yeah
[17:20] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: keep plugging dude
[17:20] <shadeslayer> also how to change it
[17:21] <shadeslayer> like the ones on kubuntu-look.org
[17:21] <shadeslayer> kde-look.orf
[17:21] <shadeslayer> *g
[17:21] <shadeslayer> ><
[17:21] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: add 'quiet' to your boot options
[17:21] <ActionParsnip1> !bootsplash
[17:21] <ActionParsnip1> !usplash
[17:21] <shadeslayer> its ro quiet splash
[17:21] <ActionParsnip1> !splash
[17:22] <shadeslayer> not the KDE splash,the usplash thing
[17:22] <ActionParsnip1> then the first link is for you
[17:22] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: its already ro quiet splash there
[17:22] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:22] <dromer> hi all, I just replaced my motherboard and videocard of my htpc, I had a geforce2mx in it, but now I have a radeon rv100, I tried using the ati-driver, but it's not working, fglrx doesn't work either
[17:22] <shadeslayer> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=45651cf8-bc61-4f39-85e9-f059feaf267f ro quiet splash i8042.nomux=1
[17:23] <shadeslayer> do i change it to
[17:23] <shadeslayer> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=45651cf8-bc61-4f39-85e9-f059feaf267f  quiet splash i8042.nomux=1
[17:23] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Would you know of a site that has all of the commands for troubleshooting and running apps via CLI?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: i'd just look at what you wanna do specifically, rather than "What can I do?" think "how can i do <something>?"
[17:24] <dromer> !radeon
[17:24] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: but you can do anything in cli that you can do in gui (except flash in websites)
[17:24] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: so??
[17:24] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Think google will give a good search result for "how can I do everything?"
[17:25] <ActionParsnip1> id be more specific
[17:25] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: is the scond line perfect??
[17:25] <draik_> everything humanly possible?
[17:25] <shadeslayer> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=45651cf8-bc61-4f39-85e9-f059feaf267f quiet splash i8042.nomux=1
[17:25] <bazhang> !rute
[17:25] <shadeslayer> ?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-848248.html
[17:26] <draik_> system froze :(
[17:26] <shadeslayer> haha
[17:26] <shadeslayer> draik_: low specs??
[17:26] <draik_> Oh well, I'm a step closer to fixing this system.
[17:26] <draik_> shadeslayer: You mean the desktop specs?
[17:26] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: well is that line all right??
[17:26] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: anything you can do on your system, web browse, burn cds encode / decode audio, watch video
[17:26] <shadeslayer> draik_: yeah
[17:27] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: sure, that should give you the image at boot
[17:27] <shadeslayer> ok thanks
[17:27] <draik_> 3.2GHz P4, 4GB RAM, 1TB HDD, 256 nVidia video card... what else?
[17:27] <shadeslayer> brb
[17:27] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:28] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: if it freezes run dmesg | tail
[17:28] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: are you using stock cooling or do you have something decent?
[17:28] <draik_> Stock
[17:29] <ActionParsnip1> ok then id install some app to watch cpu temp, see if its heat
[17:29] <draik_> As a matter of fact, I've even reapplied some heatsink compound yesterday in case the CPU is overheating.
[17:29] <ActionParsnip1> stock cooling is only just good enough usually
[17:29] <draik_> True
[17:29] <draik_> I'm going to Best Buy today to buy some stuff, I'll see what they have to cool down my CPU, just in case.
[17:29] <archangel2387> Hi everybody i need help with my wifi card. i tried several tutorials on the ubuntu wiki but it doesnt work
[17:29] <draik_> Doubt they'll have much, but I have to go there for something anyway.
[17:30] <draik_> I'm going to use VT1 right now. I hope that works out better than the GUI
[17:30] <archangel2387> when i put iwconfig i cant see my atheros card
[17:30] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: if the temperature your cpu is hitting is acceptable it should be ok
[17:31] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: check your ram is healthy and run an fsck on your drive while you sleep
[17:31] <archangel2387> i check the driver and it seem to be activate and working
[17:31] <rainer> hi all
[17:31] <draik_> dmesg doesn't tell me anything right now about the freeze. Seems like it's all OK. (odd)
[17:31] <rainer> i have a little question
[17:31] <ActionParsnip1> !hi | rainer
[17:31] <ActionParsnip1> ask away rainer
[17:33] <rainer> how  to make a script in boot option on kde?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip1> rainer: you can add the script (or symlink) in ~/.kde/Autostart
[17:33] <ActionParsnip1> !autorun
[17:33] <rainer> this is my shell command " sudo hdparm -B127 /dev/sdb"
[17:33] <ActionParsnip1> !autostart
[17:34] <rainer> how to convert this in a scrpt?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip1> rainer: you can add that to  /etc/hdparm.conf
[17:34] <draik_> Strange. I lost Internet through CLI and dmesg | tail doesn't say anything about it
[17:34] <rainer> try it..
[17:34] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: that means the kernel didnt react to the loss, ccheck other logs
[17:34] <draik_> Last thing mentioned was "nvidie 0000:01:00.0" putting AGP V3 device into 8x mode"
[17:35] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Where else would I check?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinuxLogFiles
[17:36] <arf> hi all
[17:37] <ActionParsnip1> hi arf
[17:38] <arf> hi
[17:38] <arf> hi everybody
[17:38] <arf> i need some help
[17:38] <ActionParsnip1> arf: ask away
[17:38] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: What was that command again for reading the error logs with | grep network ?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: dmesg
[17:39] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: those are the kernel logs
[17:39] <arf> ActionParsnip i just installed kubuntu and i have a problem with the wifi driver
[17:40] <arf> it seem to be working
[17:40] <arf> but i cant connect
[17:40] <arf> when i use iwconfig it looks like there is no wireless card
[17:43] <ActionParsnip1> arf: then run lspci and it will identify all pci hardware, one line will identify the wireless chip
[17:43] <ActionParsnip1> arf: you can websearch how to get it going
[17:43] <ActionParsnip1> if its usb use  lsusb
[17:43] <arf> i already tried it
[17:43] <arf> the card is Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[17:44] <arf> but the tutorials are not very easy to understand
[17:44] <arf> and there is some errors
[17:44] <arf> i tried for example to use ndiswrapper to install it
[17:45] <arf> i installed wine but the windows driver setup bug after launching
[17:45] <arf> so i cant get the .inf file to continue the training
[17:47] <ActionParsnip1> arf: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[17:48] <arf> thx i'm reading it
[17:49] <ubuntu_> hola a todos
[17:49] <spicon> estooy conectado por primera vez con un live de kubuntu
[17:49] <bazhang> !es
[17:50] <spicon> migro
[17:50] <spicon> gracias
[17:52] <Machtin> !hotkeys
[17:57] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: I lost the net on this one too. Odd. I'm going through the logs still...
[17:57] <dragon_> Kubuntu 8.10 when fetching tpackage lists anything with Translation-en_US fails is that a problem?
[18:00] <nilo> aee galera
[18:00] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: eth0: Transmit timed out, status 0002, PHY status 786d, resetting..
[18:00] <draik_> That's the last message in /var/log/messages
[18:00] <nilo> so tem homem aqui
[18:01] <Tm_T> !br | nilo
[18:01] <nilo> #ubuntu-br
[18:01] <nilo> every one speack english
[18:02] <nilo> hello
[18:02] <nilo> someone has instaled the vmware on the ubuntu
[18:03] <ockonal> Hello guys
[18:04] <nilo> somebare is from brazil
[18:06] <nilo> oi andrea
[18:08] <White_Pelican> when I insert a playable cd, and then open it in a new window, flac no longer shows up as an option. why?
[18:10] <arf> thanks for all it's working now
[18:15] <Machtin> !keyboard
[18:15] <Machtin> !shortcuts
[18:16] <rodrigo> ola
[18:16] <Machtin> hm
[18:16] <rodrigo> e ai quem usa ubuntu ???
[18:16] <bazhang> !br
[18:16] <rodrigo> ola
[18:16]  * genii sneaks bazhang a tasty cookie
[18:17] <bazhang> yum! err apt!
[18:17] <Machtin> okay.. sorry.. i don't get it.. where would i want to go, to assign a key(-combination) to launch a program for example?
[18:17] <Machtin> "Keyboard Shortcuts" makes me have to choose a KDE-Component.. i just want to run a command
[18:18] <draik_> Machtin: What is the command you want to make a shortcut?
[18:18] <Machtin> draik_: for example launching my email-client
[18:19] <Machtin> "claws-mail"
[18:19] <draik_> Then you want to run an app, not a command.
[18:19] <Machtin> okay, agreed, but i still don't get where
[18:19] <draik_> Create a shortcut and set the keyboard shortcut within the settings.
[18:20] <Machtin> hm, okay.. would that work with panel icons?
[18:21] <Machtin> can't find where to set the shortcut there
[18:25] <Machtin> draik_?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> hey doesnt kubuntu have a utility to change usplash themes??
[18:32] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: that line didnt work
[18:32] <draik_> Machtin: No clue.
[18:32] <shadeslayer> i still have to get the loading bar back
[18:32] <shadeslayer> :(
[18:32] <draik_> shadeslayer: Yes, I believe it is within System Settings
[18:32] <dromer> hi all, I'm having trouble with some ati-related stuff, I have a Radeon RV100 and I can't get resolutions >1024x786, and I'm having trouble to figure out how to extend my screen over composite to my tv
[18:33] <shadeslayer> no thats the KDE splash
[18:33] <shadeslayer> i want the loading bar
[18:33] <draik_> Oh, right.
[18:33] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:33] <draik_> Good question. I don't know
[18:33] <shadeslayer> ;
[18:33] <shadeslayer> ;)
[18:33] <draik_> I can't say that's an inquiry on my mind at this point ;)
[18:34] <shadeslayer> gnome has a startup manager
[18:34] <shadeslayer> hehe
[18:34] <shadeslayer> that manages these usplash images,but KDE has nothing
[18:34] <draik_> I think my neighbors are going to call the asylum for my own reservation. Random outbursts of swearing to my computer and Internet connection.
[18:34] <Machtin> draik_: kk, thanks anyway
[18:35] <shadeslayer> :
[18:35] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:35] <shadeslayer> haha
[18:35] <draik_> A bit of an issue with there shift+0, huh?
[18:35] <shadeslayer> swearing wont help
[18:35] <shadeslayer> yeah
[18:35] <shadeslayer> my hand keeps hitting enter
[18:35] <shadeslayer> XD
[18:36] <shadeslayer> btw is there a widget to measure temps?
[18:36] <genii> shadeslayer: ksensors is one
[18:36] <draik_> shadeslayer: I recall that there is one with Superkaramba
[18:36] <draik_> Actually, quite a few
[18:36] <shadeslayer> doesnt measure my GPU
[18:37] <genii> Also Kima
[18:37] <shadeslayer> where??
[18:37] <shadeslayer> kde-look.org??
[18:38] <draik_> Apps, I think
[18:40] <shadeslayer> grrr,plasma crashed
[18:40] <shadeslayer> :|
[18:41] <dvheumen> hey everyone. I was wondering if there is someone else who's running KDE 4.2 and has a problem with the Application Launcher plasmoid, i.e. having a delay of > 1 sec. before actually showing the menu when being clicked.
[18:41] <shadeslayer> yeah me
[18:41] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:41] <shadeslayer> no wait not one sec
[18:41] <shadeslayer> maybe a very short delay
[18:42] <dvheumen> shadeslayer: so the menu shows immediately for you? ... I have *at least* a 1 second delay (no exageration :P)
[18:42] <shadeslayer> really??
[18:42] <shadeslayer> it shows almost immiediately
[18:42] <dvheumen> yeah, and I haven't found out the reason yet
[18:43] <shadeslayer> good luck
[18:43] <dvheumen> yeah tnx :P
[18:43] <shadeslayer> anyone know a utility in Kubuntu to change usplash images??
[18:44] <shadeslayer> omg quassel is running horribly on kubuntu
[18:44] <draik_> quassel? Is that the new IRC app?
[18:44] <shadeslayer> yeah
[18:45] <shadeslayer> !quassel
[18:45] <shadeslayer> :O
[18:45] <shadeslayer> :|
[18:45] <shadeslayer> anyways
[18:46] <shadeslayer> draik_: i couldnt find apps @ kde-look.org
[18:47] <shadeslayer> draik_: could you paste the link here??
[18:47] <john_> hey, having trouble with K3B not ripping mp3s at full quality
[18:48] <shadeslayer> draik_: ?
[18:48] <john_> my lame command starts with this "lame -h -V 1", but i still get some files coming out at less than 160kbps
[18:49] <bazhang> shadeslayer, is this ubuntu or debian?
[18:49] <shadeslayer> kubuntu,why??
[18:50] <bazhang> shadeslayer, please paste.ubuntu.com with your sources.list
[18:50] <shadeslayer> okies
[18:53] <john_> any ideas
[18:53] <OrEvA> Can anyone tell me the command to make gdm as default display manager... currently i have kdm as my default display manager
[18:56] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/124376/
[18:56] <shadeslayer> OrEvA: i think it was sudo -dpckg reconfigure *dm
[18:56] <shadeslayer> something like that
[18:57] <bazhang> shadeslayer, that was not the sources.list
[18:57] <shadeslayer> oh that was my menu.lst
[18:57] <shadeslayer> my bad
[18:58] <shadeslayer> tired thats all
[18:58] <bazhang> I will check it later
[18:58] <shadeslayer> how do i find it??
[18:58] <shadeslayer> no ill give it right now
[18:58] <shadeslayer> !gdm
[18:59] <shadeslayer> bazhang: how do i find the sources list??
[18:59] <dvheumen> /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:59] <shadeslayer> ah
[19:00] <shadeslayer> anyway to directly paste that file output to a site??
[19:00] <eli_> hi guys, i need some help with wireless configuration
[19:00] <shadeslayer> !wifi | el_
[19:00] <shadeslayer> :O
[19:00] <shadeslayer> !wifi | eli_
[19:00] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:01] <OrEvA> shadeslayer : this was my output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/124379/
[19:03] <shadeslayer> bazhang: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/124382/
[19:04] <shadeslayer> OrEvA: one moment
[19:04] <john_> what the hell, why won't it k3b rip to the quality i'm specifying
[19:05] <shadeslayer> OrEvA: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[19:05] <shadeslayer> ><
[19:05] <shadeslayer> choose gdm there
[19:06] <shadeslayer> bazhang: why did you want my sources list??
[19:07] <shadeslayer> :|
[19:09] <GWild> has anyone experienced issues (Intrepix Ibex) with the system suddenly 'losing' the CD drive?
[19:09] <shadeslayer> i wonder why he left
[19:09] <OrEvA> shadeslayer : this was my output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/124386/
[19:09] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:10] <shadeslayer> OrEvA: did you get a blue and grey window or just that text??
[19:10] <shadeslayer> god i lost my kicker
[19:10] <shadeslayer> it wont kick
[19:11] <Stathis`> hey all
[19:11] <OrEvA> shadeslayer : first i got yhe blue and grey window and then the text
[19:11] <shadeslayer> and you chose gdm right
[19:11] <john_> how long should a cd take to rip to high quality on a 3ghz machine with 4gb ram?
[19:11] <shadeslayer> then logout>press alt+E>relogin
[19:12] <OrEvA> shadeslayer : first i got yhe blue and grey window and then the text and i chose gdm
[19:12] <shadeslayer> then logout>press alt+E>relogin
[19:12] <eli_> ubottu: I've tried that already, but it doesn't help
[19:12] <eli_> i guess i miss some little trick...
[19:13] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[19:13] <shadeslayer> eli_ : newbie??
[19:14] <shadeslayer> dvheumen: try removing the kicker and adding it again
[19:14] <shadeslayer> worked for me
[19:17] <dvheumen> shadeslayer: I'll try
[19:17] <shadeslayer> bazhang: what happened??
[19:17] <eli_> ubottu: i've checked the wifi guide and forums, but i can't figure out the trick
[19:17] <shadeslayer> ok
[19:17] <shadeslayer> eli_: now thats being dumb
[19:18] <eli_> shadeslayer: i'm a newbie
[19:18] <shadeslayer> eli_: whats the problem
[19:18] <dvheumen> shadeslayer: nope sorry, still the same delay. I've also tried starting KDE without an existing profile (.kde directory) but it didn't work either
[19:18] <eli_> shadeslayer: i try to set the wireless connection on my new patop
[19:19] <shadeslayer> dvheumen: that was my next move :P
[19:19] <shadeslayer> eli_: and??
[19:19] <eli_> it's a infamous intel 5100 wireless
[19:19] <shadeslayer> paptop lol
[19:19] <jamesjedimaster> eli_: what's you laptop model, wireless card model?
[19:19] <shadeslayer> eli_: run this in terminal lspci
[19:19] <eli_> shadeslayer: it's lenovo sl500
[19:19] <shadeslayer> can you do that??
[19:19] <eli_> wireless intel 5100
[19:19] <shadeslayer> ok
[19:20] <eli_> sure, done it already:)
[19:20] <shadeslayer> is the wifi card deteccted??
[19:20] <Hell-Razor> UBUNTU WITH KDE SUCKS ASS! all of you sissies say you like linux when you dont even know how to compile a kernel from source!! GOD! and you cant fucking change X sessions! JESUS CHRIST YOU GUYS SUCK... what kernel version are you guys running? WHO CARES CAUSE NONE OF YOU CAN TELL
[19:20] <shadeslayer> :O
[19:20] <eli_> i can see the networks around me through the network manager
[19:20] <eli_> so i guess the driver works fine
[19:20] <dvheumen> shadeslayer: yeah I figured you'd say something like that. The thing is ... I haven't found any reports of people that have the same problem
[19:20] <dvheumen> I was hoping for some, but it's difficult to search for on the internet
[19:20] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:21] <shadeslayer> ive already reset GNOME so many times :P
[19:21] <shadeslayer> eli_: then??
[19:21] <shadeslayer> you cannot connect??
[19:21] <eli_> the i try to connect - and nothing works.
[19:21] <shadeslayer> nothing works??
[19:21] <eli_> tried to do it through the command line and i get the time out
[19:22] <jamesjedimaster> eli_: perhaps you have to configure your access at your router/gateway
[19:24] <eli_> i configed it to the somplest possible - no encryption, no mac control
[19:24] <eli_> simplest it is
[19:24] <ActionParsnip1> try setting a static ip
[19:25] <shadeslayer> or try pinging something
[19:25] <shadeslayer> ><
[19:25] <eli_> how do i do it?
[19:25] <shadeslayer> in knetwork manager
[19:25] <shadeslayer> and your router
[19:25] <shadeslayer> i think the ip for the router would be 192.168.1.1
[19:26] <eli_> it is
[19:26] <ActionParsnip1> depends, some use 10.0.0.1
[19:26] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:26] <shadeslayer> well thats the most common
[19:26] <eli_> mine is 192.168.1.1
[19:26] <shadeslayer> broadcom??????
[19:26] <eli_> 3Com
[19:27] <ActionParsnip1> eli_: here is my fileservers /etc/network/interfaces
[19:27] <ActionParsnip1> http://pastebin.com/f5151dfaf
[19:27] <eli_> ActionParsnip1: what is it?
[19:27] <jamesjedimaster> eli_: http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-use-iwconfig/
[19:27] <ActionParsnip1> eli_: all 3rd octets make them 1 instead of 0
[19:27] <Geek`N`Proud> many routers do 192.168.0.1 too
[19:27] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: meet the new linux convert eli_
[19:27] <shadeslayer> XD
[19:28] <ActionParsnip1> eli_: my switch uses 192.168.0.1 but yours will be 192.168.0.1
[19:28] <ActionParsnip1> eli_: and so on down the file
[19:28] <shadeslayer> ?
[19:28] <shadeslayer> its the same
[19:29] <ActionParsnip1> he uses 1.1  mine is 0.1
[19:39] <john_> so... k3b then
[19:39] <john_> lame not ripping to high quality even though i tell it to
[19:40] <koperton> john_: mmm ?
[19:40] <john_> i'm using "lame -h -V 0" for my lame command
[19:40] <ActionParsnip1> john_: what are you ripping?
[19:41] <john_> yet half or most of the tracks come out around 130kbps
[19:41] <john_> ActionParsnip1, a music cd
[19:41] <john_> shop bought one
[19:42] <koperton> i don't trust you how do you have analyzed your audio track
[19:43] <john_> looking at the bitrate and filesize
[19:43] <draik_> How do I make KDE my default over Gnome?
[19:43] <koperton> kdm settings
[19:43] <john_> a 2:20 song shouldn't be 2.4mb
[19:43] <koperton> on log in menu
[19:43] <draik_> From CLI
[19:43] <koperton> john_: have you encoded with k3b ?
[19:44] <john_> yeah
[19:44] <ActionParsnip1> john_: depends what bitrate
[19:44] <koperton> john_:just a second
[19:44] <ActionParsnip1> john_: and what encoding type you are using (ogg, lame etc)
[19:45] <koperton> john_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quyA3wjW7VE
[19:45] <john_> ActionParsnip1, lame
[19:45] <koperton> john_: see that
[19:45] <john_> koperton, thanks, i think i might've seen it
[19:45] <john_> but i'll wtch just in case
[19:45] <ActionParsnip1> john_: konqueror rips cd's pretty sweet
[19:46] <john_> i want something configurable though
[19:46] <john_> Grip was perfect, but it won't recognise my cd drive :(
[19:47] <john_> ok, i copied the lame command as i see it there
[19:48] <ActionParsnip1> john_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[19:49] <john_> cheers ActionParsnip1
[19:50] <john_> maybe i'll try abcde
[19:51] <ActionParsnip1> try a few, see which you like
[19:51] <john_> i like k3b fine, it's just not ripping properly
[19:51] <john_> i followed the instructions in the video, it's still resulting in 140kbps bitrates
[19:52] <ActionParsnip1> nice :(
[19:53] <ActionParsnip1> ive not ripped with k3b
[19:53] <john_> wish grip would work
[19:56] <usuario> #ubuntu
[19:58] <diego_> #ubuntu-es
[19:58] <alarm> hello there. on previews kubuntu releases with kde3.5.x there was an option for external hdd devices to be mounted with read only. now (on kubuntu 8.10 kde 4.2) , when i plug in my external hdd , and open it , it is automounted with read/write access. how can i change that to mount it with read only option ?
[19:58] <diego_> #kubuntu-es
[19:59] <john_> how long would you expect an audio cd to rip
[19:59] <john_> to take
[19:59] <ActionParsnip1> depends on the speed of the drive and the ripping settings you use
[20:00] <ubuntu_> hi
[20:01] <brzi> hello can i have a question related to the kubuntu blurry fonts, is there someone that understands the font configuration
[20:01] <draik_> I don't know what happened, but my System Settings sucks now. I don't have the option to choose if NumLock is ON or OFF at login and such. I also can't choose my KDM options.
[20:01] <brzi> blurry fonts on KDE 4.1, on GNOME it works fine??
[20:01] <brzi> help
[20:02] <ubuntu_> it s possible instal kubuntu via svn
[20:02] <ActionParsnip1> brzi: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=448555
[20:03] <ActionParsnip1> brzi: http://www.nabble.com/kde4:-blurry-fonts-td15137265.html
[20:03] <brzi> thank you very mutch
[20:07] <draik_> I've been managing to install apps by doing it one line at a time.
[20:08] <draik_> Takes a while, but it's slowly getting the job done
[20:08] <draik_> It also helps to use an alias             [alias sagi='sudo apt-get install']
[20:10] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: you can stagger installs
[20:10] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: e.g.
[20:10] <draik_> How so?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: sudo apt-get install firefox thunderbird samba openssh-server pidgin wine
[20:10] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: then go for a shower :)
[20:10] <draik_> That's what I'm doing now
[20:11] <draik_> It started off with [sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade] and then I put the results into a list.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip1> well thats not one at a time is it?
[20:11] <drostie> How would I set up custom key mappings -- e.g. the "windows" key to the K menu, or the buttons on my laptop's bezel plate to shell scripts?
[20:11] <draik_> That list is now being processed one line at a time until I either (A) lose Internet or (B) system freezes.
[20:12] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: then thats all in one shot
[20:13] <drostie> draik_: the idea is that you don't need to do it one line at a time. The command [sudo apt-get install firefox thunderbird] will install both firefox and thunderbird simultaneously.
[20:13] <marcel> hola
[20:14] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Right, but it's one line of apps at a time (about 5-8 apps) and then do the next line, if condition A or B from above are not met.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: could script it ;)
[20:14] <drostie> ^_^
[20:14] <draik_> How so?
[20:14] <draik_> And how would I know where it died?
[20:15] <drostie> draik_: shell scripting plus the echo command?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: just have each install line run, if you want you can have it output to a file
[20:15] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: so you can see where it got to
[20:16] <draik_> Good point
[20:17] <ActionParsnip1> computer is there to make your life easier dude
[20:17] <ActionParsnip1> exploit it, it wont mind
[20:18] <drostie> So, um. Either of you know how to do custom keybindings?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip1> !shortcut
[20:18] <draik_> drostie: Such as keyboard shortcuts to apps?
[20:21] <drostie> :-( the windows key is called "meta" and cannot be bound.
[20:22] <cuznt> actionparsnip1 i have re-arrived from my other hard drive. still no connection
[20:27] <cuznt> alas for my knetwork manager will not connect to the interweb. to "refresh" kde4.2 amd athalon . it happened after a reboot for adobe flash issues.
[20:37] <drostie> ActionParsnip1: thank you so much!!
[20:38] <ActionParsnip1> drostie: ??
[20:39] <drostie> The ubottu link was very useful.
[20:41] <ActionParsnip1> oh ok np :D
[20:44] <drostie> ^_^
[20:45] <alarm> hello there. on previews kubuntu releases with kde3.5.x there was an option for external hdd devices to be mounted with read only. now (on kubuntu 8.10 kde 4.2) , when i plug in my external hdd , and open it , it is automounted with read/write access. how can i change that to mount it with read only option ?
[20:45] <giovanni_> !list
[20:46] <drostie> alarm: before I advise you, let me check that my advice works ^_^;;
[20:46] <alarm> ;)
[20:50] <slow-motion> hi
[20:52] <alarm> drostie, so ? :P
[20:54] <drostie> alarm: I have discovered that sadly, the udev/hal daemons that help in plug-and-play type mounting do not respect /etc/fstab :-(
[20:54] <alarm> drostie,  i know that
[20:54] <drostie> alarm: I didn't. That would have been the easy solution to your problems. ^_^
[20:55] <alarm> thats why i said. on previous releases you could check/uncheck the option for read/write option in the automount options
[20:55] <alarm> not anymore on 8.10 with kde4.2
[20:58] <drostie> alarm: well, you could always hack something together manually via http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[20:59] <alarm> let me check that out
[21:00] <alarm> there has to be something easier :)
[21:02] <drostie> alarm: in fact, what I just told you probably doesn't work.
[21:02] <drostie> I just found out that udev doesn't actually do the device-mounting. ^_^;;
[21:07] <drostie> ugh. --_--;;
[21:14] <draik_> drostie: :) Cheer up.
[21:15] <draik_> --_;; (emo)
[21:15] <drostie> (^'-')> (kirby making obscene hand gestures)
[21:16] <draik_> LOL
[21:24] <Herazio> goodevening ^^
[21:26] <Herazio> I've been here yesterday and I'm still having trouble with connecting via my Wireless Adapter (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG). I came a bit further by typing dmesg and got an error by the driver saying: iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill Switch
[21:26] <Herazio> anyone have any idea how to fix this ?
[21:27] <jalon> salut
[21:27] <Herazio> evening
[21:29] <Herazio> I've been here yesterday and I'm still having trouble with connecting via my Wireless Adapter (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG). I came a bit further by typing dmesg and got an error by the driver saying: iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill Switch
[21:30] <|drostie|> Sounds like there's a button on your laptop which toggles wireless on and off (an RF Kill Switch) that is currently in the off position.
[21:31] <Herazio> yeah ^^' that would be FN - F1 (sorry for the repeating question ofcourse). But that button does not work
[21:34] <|drostie|> No, not a keyboard button. Some other sort of button. Like, on my current Toshiba laptop, there's a little on/off switch on the narrow front-edge of the computer. On my now-dead Acer laptop, this button happened to also be the light that switched on and off during network traffic.
[21:35] <Herazio> hmm wierd O_o
[21:36] <Herazio> but you never know if you don't try ^^
[21:36] <Surlent777> can anyone offer me any suggestions on how to get Doom 3 working (no visuals, but the game is still running) in KDE 4, taking into account that it works perfectly in Fluxbox, GNOME, and Xfce?
[21:36] <|drostie|> hardware kill switches are relatively common; look around for one.
[21:36] <Herazio> will do ^^
[21:38] <|drostie|> Surlent777: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/ ...?
[21:38] <Surlent777> |drostie|: I happen to have a copy of that saved in .mht via Opera, and it seems to offer nothing. =/
[21:39] <Surlent777> saved as*
[21:39] <Surlent777> ...wait
[21:39] <Surlent777> does KDE 4 run a 24bbp desktop?
[21:40] <dr_Willis> It should.
[21:41] <Surlent777> I have a default installation from kubuntu-desktop
[21:44] <draik_> Is it wrong for me to laugh at the fact that my computer froze while getting Frozen-Bubble?
[21:44] <Surlent777> yes and no
[21:44] <Surlent777> it is also appropriate to RAGE
[21:46] <Surlent777> time for work; I'll have to fix Doom 3 later
[21:54] <bsm> Hi, I'm looking for something like sshfs without ssh :) the connection is secure ( cable ) so I don't need encryption, but it should be as easy to use as sshfs.
[21:54] <bsm> and it should not be nfs
[21:57] <drostie> if sshfs works, why not just encrypt it superfluously? It's not like you lose something drastic by encryption.
[22:29] <BRICKFARMR> shoul i upgrade to kde4.2 on intrepid?
[22:30] <HappySmileMan> Yes
[22:30] <HappySmileMan> It's far better
[22:30] <BRICKFARMR> 4.1>4.2?
[22:31] <Dillizar> anyone here ??
[22:31] <BRICKFARMR> woops reverse that
[22:31] <HappySmileMan> Yes 4.2 > 4.1
[22:31] <Dillizar> does any one know a program for virtual cd
[22:31] <BRICKFARMR> it's in backports
[22:32] <HappySmileMan> Dillizar: Not exactly sure what you mean
[22:32] <HappySmileMan> You can mount an ISO file using just the command line, but I'm not sure if there's a GUI way to do it
[22:33] <HappySmileMan> There probably is that I'm not sure of
[22:33] <Dillizar> HappySmileMan,  i need a client to make a virtual cd rom like ultra iso or smt like that
[22:33] <sooki> so will the next kubuntu release come with 4.2?
[22:36] <Alethes> I'm having issues with amarok and kaffeine and shoutcast streams, which I think are both using the xine backend.  I'm getting a kind of a squeak sound in the stream
[22:36] <pwnage> hiya
[22:37] <HappySmileMan> Dillizar: AcetoneISO is a Free Software program to mount and manage image files.
[22:37] <HappySmileMan> From wikipedia
[22:38] <HappySmileMan> Don't know if there are any packages, but it's Qt4 and open source
[22:38] <HappySmileMan> You can also run Nero on Linux but that costs money
[22:38] <HappySmileMan> sooki: Yeah it will have 4.2
[22:40] <Dillizar> thanks HappySmileMan  i am installing it right now, i really want to play Generals :)
[22:41] <HappySmileMan> Well hopefully it'll work, it can be mounted from the command line anyway if not, but that can be a bit of a hassle
[22:41] <Dillizar> happy i just want to mount a iso file and install it
[22:42] <Dillizar> i dont want to burn a cd i am too lazy and its 23:40 so i cant find a CD
[22:42] <Dillizar> :D
[22:44]  * debrisrat Selamlar ARkadaslar  iyi gecleer
[22:44] <debrisrat> geceler
[22:45]  * debrisrat Selamlar ARkadaslar  iyi geceler
[22:58] <ADDxTOn> hola
[22:58] <ADDxTOn> anyone familiar with the dosbox?
[22:58] <ADDxTOn> how can i release the focus from dosbox?
[22:58] <HappySmileMan> Not sure, but there's a #dosbox channel, you'd probably be more likely to get help there
[22:59] <ADDxTOn> i already asked there
[22:59] <ADDxTOn> no answer
[22:59] <HappySmileMan> Oh, then not sure, hold on, I thinK i have it installed
[22:59] <ADDxTOn> whats thats quassel thing?
[22:59] <ADDxTOn> ok thx happysmileman
[23:00] <HappySmileMan> quassel is an IRC client
[23:00] <ADDxTOn> i would google it myself but i cant access the browser
[23:00] <ADDxTOn> better than irssi?
[23:00] <HappySmileMan> Well it's graphical for one :P
[23:00] <ADDxTOn> gtk or qt?
[23:00] <HappySmileMan> And Ctrl+F10 is to release focus I think
[23:00] <HappySmileMan> Qt4
[23:00] <ADDxTOn> ok thx
[23:01] <ADDxTOn> yes that worked, thx very much HappySmileMan
[23:01] <HappySmileMan> np
[23:02] <Laeborg> restart alsa = sudo alsa reload ?
[23:02] <kamil> how to set up network under kubuntu 8.10 ?
[23:02] <navetz_> is there a ipnuker for linux ?
[23:03] <kamil> I have set up a manual wired connection but it seems to be "disconnected"
[23:04] <kamil> any ideas ?
[23:05] <BRICKFARMR> ideas for what
[23:05] <valgaav> intrepid ?
[23:05] <kamil> how to set up an internet connection in kubuntu
[23:06] <BRICKFARMR> intrepid?
[23:06] <kamil> what is it ?
[23:06] <BRICKFARMR> which release are you using? intrepid or hardy?
[23:06] <kamil> interpid
[23:07] <valgaav> knetworkmanager in intrepid doesn't work with manual Ips
[23:07] <valgaav> AFAIK
[23:07] <BRICKFARMR> are you tryying to do wireless
[23:07] <kamil> no
[23:07] <kamil> wired
[23:07] <BRICKFARMR> wired?
[23:07] <kamil> cause i have a wired connection
[23:07] <valgaav> wired=cable
[23:08] <valgaav> anyway kamil either use jaunty ... the new plasmoid works fine with manual ips
[23:09] <valgaav> or ditch networkmanager and configure your net in configurationfiles
[23:09] <valgaav> or use wicd ....
[23:10] <kamil> i'll try wicd
[23:10] <valgaav> jaunty is quite stable btw  .... and kde 4.2 is a lot better then 4.1
[23:12] <kamil> I don't know what to do
[23:13] <kamil> i can't switch to kde 4.2 cause i can't download it
[23:14] <kamil> from that computer
[23:14] <kamil> i have no internet there
[23:16] <kamil> how to set up network manually ?
[23:16] <valgaav> to have net with knetwrokmanager youw ould have to use dhcp
[23:16] <valgaav> manually ?
[23:17] <valgaav> /etc/network/interfaces
[23:17] <kamil> without network manager
[23:17] <kamil> ok
[23:17] <valgaav> /etc/resolv.conf
[23:17] <valgaav> resolv.conf for dns
[23:17] <valgaav> interfaces for general ip config
[23:18] <valgaav> and you may have to remove network manager to make it work
[23:22] <yad__> hi i need some help  =)
[23:22] <BRICKFARMR1> abt what
[23:23] <yad__> could anyone tell me where i find  the cdrom
[23:23] <BRICKFARMR1> dev/cdrom0
[23:23] <yad__> bcause i need to install win again  not everybody loves kubuntu
[23:23] <yad__> :)
[23:24] <BRICKFARMR1> if you're reinstalling windows
[23:24] <BRICKFARMR1> put the disk in the drive
[23:24] <BRICKFARMR1> and reboot
[23:25] <yad__> i didnt work
[23:26] <BRICKFARMR1> what did you do?
[23:26] <yad__> and i cant find the cd rom
[23:26] <yad__> rebooted with the cd in the drive
[23:27] <BRICKFARMR1> that didn't launc the windows install?
[23:28] <yad__> no and nothing happends when i put the disk in the drive while kubuntu is stardet
[23:28] <yad__> *started
[23:28] <HappySmileMan> You might need to change boot order in BIOS settings
[23:28] <yad__> i did that. put the  cd drive first
[23:29] <yad__> is there a way to get to dos from  kubuntu
[23:29] <yad__> because i cant find the cd drive
[23:31] <compilerwriter> Does kubuntu have a featured web site capture program besides wget?
[23:31] <BRICKFARMR1> kubuntu=
[23:31] <BRICKFARMR1> kubuntu is not windows: no DOS
[23:31] <BRICKFARMR1> do you have a windows install disk
[23:33] <BRICKFARMR1> @compilewriter firefox with flashgot
[23:33] <HappySmileMan> KGet is a KDE download manager
[23:33] <yad__> yeah i have two cd rom
[23:34] <BRICKFARMR1> firefox file>save>web page (complete)
[23:34] <BRICKFARMR1> yad: insert discc 1 first
[23:34] <compilerwriter> Thanks bricfarmr1 and happysmileman
[23:35] <BRICKFARMR1> you're welcome
[23:35] <HappySmileMan> yw
[23:37] <yad__> yeah i did
[23:37] <BRICKFARMR1> well try the other
[23:40] <yad__> i did and nothing happends when i put them  in the drive
[23:41] <BRICKFARMR1> then i have no clue. ask around with winddows users
[23:41] <BRICKFARMR1> insttalling winndowws can be a pain
[23:43] <BRICKFARMR1> what is new in kde4.2
[23:46] <BRICKFARMR1> þòóq
[23:49] <BRICKFARMR1> does anyone still ude kde3.5?
[23:55] <Kelams> arkadaslar  ati  ekran kartı  kullanan bir kullanıcıya ubuntu onerir misiniz ??
[23:58] <phitoo> Hello!
[23:58] <phitoo> Question: How does one use the format painter in KJots?