[11:00] <glade88> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/62513
[11:11] <AnAnt> Hello, can I change the name of a project/team in launchpad ?
[11:13] <glade88> AnAnt: https://edge.launchpad.net/~team/+edit
[11:15] <AnAnt> glade88: well, for the project, +edit only allows me to change the display name & title
[11:16] <glade88> AnAnt: afaik, that is all you can change
[11:17] <AnAnt> glade88: for example I need to change https://edge.launchpad.net/projectfoo to https://edge.launchpad.net/projectbar
[11:18] <AnAnt> projectbar does not exist in Launchpad, but the project got renamed from projectfoo to projectbar
[11:19] <AnAnt> glade88: can't it even be requested from an LP admin ?
[11:20] <glade88> AnAnt: cant find a way to do that, sorry.
[11:20] <glade88> AnAnt: sure you can
[11:20] <AnAnt> ok, thanks
[11:20] <glade88> start an LP question
[11:20] <glade88> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad
[11:20] <wgrant> AnAnt: Project and team names can only be changed by an admin, so ask a question as glade88 suggests.
[11:23] <AnAnt> wgrant: the person who registered the project/team should ask ? or can any member ask ?
[11:23] <glade88> AnAnt: the maintainer or project driver(s)
[11:54] <AnAnt> glade88: what if the maintainer is a team ?
[11:54] <glade88> and you are a member of that team?
[11:55] <glade88> erm.. any member of that team can request it..
[11:55] <AnAnt> yup
[11:55] <AnAnt> thanks
[11:55] <glade88> np
[12:14] <AnAnt> ok #62611
[12:39] <AdamDH> in my rules can I use wget to get source on launchpad?
[13:16] <geser> AdamDH: for which target?
[13:17] <AdamDH> amd64
[13:17] <geser> if you want to do it during (binary-) package build then no as the buildds don't have net access
[13:17] <AdamDH> ah thankyou I will try and find a way around it
[14:29] <AdamDH> why are Estimated build starts sometimes into the 2 - 3 hour mark?
[14:30] <beuno> AdamDH, because there are a lot of builds in the queue
[14:35] <AdamDH> can we see the queue?
[14:43] <AnAnt> Hello, how can I get a release tarball from bzr ?
[14:45] <kiko-afk> AnAnt, just visit launchpad.net/bzr
[14:45] <kiko-afk> AdamDH, you can see the ubuntu queue at /ubuntu/+queue
[14:45] <kiko-afk> beuno!
[14:46] <AdamDH> kiko-afk where is that?
[14:46] <kiko-afk> AdamDH, on the internet? :)
[14:47] <AdamDH> im getting a 404
[14:47] <kiko-afk> hang on
[14:48] <AnAnt> kiko-afk: and ?
[14:49] <kiko-afk> AnAnt, and click on downloads?
[14:50] <mneptok> kiko-afk!
[14:50] <kiko-afk> mneptok!
[14:50] <AnAnt> kiko-afk: oh, I wasn't clear, I meant, I got some code in launchpad's bzr repository, how do I release a tarball from that bzr repository ?
[14:51] <kiko-afk> AnAnt -- oh! sorry, yes you were unclear. :)
[14:51] <kiko-afk> that's a feature requested but not yet implemented
[14:51] <AnAnt> ok
[14:51] <kiko-afk> AdamDH, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds sorry
[14:51] <AnAnt> thanks
[14:52] <kiko-afk> AnAnt, there's a bug filed for it, want me to find it?
[14:52] <AnAnt> kiko-afk: nope, thanks
[14:52] <AdamDH> thanks kiko
[14:52] <kiko-afk> heh ok
[14:53] <AdamDH> wow there compiling an arm version of open office nice
[14:54] <kiko-afk> AdamDH, that doesn't list PPA builds though -- there isn't such a page yet but I know cprov and noodles were working on one
[14:57]  * mneptok wonders if salgado is on the slopes already :)
[14:58] <kiko-phone> mneptok, where is salgado? montreal?
[14:58] <beuno> kiko-phone!
[14:58] <beuno> how can you be on the phone on a sat!??
[14:58] <kiko-phone> beuno, just mneptok tricking me
[15:00] <mneptok> kiko: yup! salgado and jamesh have been in Montreal all this week. salgado is spending the day at Jay Peak today. first time on skis!
[15:00] <kiko> wow, first day
[15:00] <kiko> that will be painful tomorrow
[15:00] <mneptok> yes it will. which means my schadenfreude gene will pull me back into the Montreal office next week. ;)
[15:01] <mneptok> kiko: http://www.jaypeakresort.com/ (Flash required)
[15:01] <kiko> aiee
[15:05] <AdamDH> according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/amd64/+builds there is nothing in the build que foe amd64 on januity?
[15:05] <AdamDH> *jaunty
[15:07] <kiko> AdamDH, that's misleading because it doesn't include ppa builds
[15:07] <AdamDH> ah just noticed that
[15:07] <AdamDH> only been using a PPA for a couple of days
[15:08] <AdamDH> just getting the hang and layout of things
[15:08] <kiko> yeah, that's actually a bug and as I said cprov and noodles have something up their sleeve
[15:09] <mneptok> kiko: i wonder if we'd fall foul of US fair use law if we appropriated the the classic Soylent Green line for LP ...
[15:09] <mneptok> "IT'S PEEEEEEOPLE!  LAUNCHPAD IS PEEEEOPLE!"
[15:09] <AdamDH> when is the source going to be released for launchpad?
[15:10] <beuno> AdamDH, 21st of July
[15:10] <beuno> AdamDH, more information here: https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing
[15:11] <bourrin54> hello all
[15:11] <bourrin54> How to upload a .deb package to my PPA launchpad ?
[15:11] <AdamDH> using dput
[15:12] <AdamDH> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[15:12] <bourrin54> thanks
[15:46] <cprov> AdamDH: hi, while we don't have a page for PPA builds in queue, it's important to note that they are not affected or affects ubuntu builds. PPA source are built in a separate buildfarm.
[15:48] <AdamDH> thanks cprov, I was a little unsure how it all worked
[15:49] <cprov> AdamDH: we only show a snapshot of the buildfarm current status at https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds
[15:51] <maxb> AdamDH: I see you've chosen to disregard by advice on hyphens in version numbers :-/
[15:51] <cprov> AdamDH: you can have a hint about the time a given build will be dispatched by accessing its page (estimated dispatch time field)
[15:51] <maxb> cprov: Should I assume someone has noticed kohnen? Perhaps put a comment in the topic?
[15:52] <AdamDH> maxb > I know for dev I am keeping with those versions, trying to get it all upstream so I can just use ms430-binutils-2.19 etc
[15:53] <maxb> Any net access during a build is strictly forbidden. Check your build log:
[15:53] <maxb> https://launchpad.net/+builds/actinium
[15:53] <AdamDH> hang on why is that still running?
[15:54] <AdamDH> I got a failure on it so I suspected that would have just killed the job
[15:54] <AdamDH> I changed my rules and pushed a new package revision
[15:55] <AdamDH> so how do I stop something from been built once it has started?
[15:55] <maxb> cprov: If you can conveniently abort some builds.... https://launchpad.net/+builds/actinium https://launchpad.net/+builds/samarium https://launchpad.net/+builds/gold
[15:56] <AdamDH> maxb so have I held up two build hosts?
[15:58] <maxb> well, it's not your fault that launchpad doesn't auto-cancel superseded builds
[15:58] <cprov> AdamDH: have you deleted the sources ?
[15:59] <maxb> Come to think of it, the buildds really ought to ship a wgetrc that sets tries=1
[15:59] <AdamDH> yup I did when I pushed the new revision why?
[16:01] <maxb> AdamDH: "This package was created by taking the 2.19.1-msp430-cvs.0.0.20090228 upstream source"... ahem!
[16:01] <AdamDH> I have screwed up those packages
[16:02] <AdamDH> they work does that count ;)
[16:02] <maxb> AdamDH: Also, have you considered using a standard patchsystem instead of rolling your own?
[16:02] <AdamDH> I like my own patch system it just works?
[16:02] <AdamDH> maxb I have put it all up on revu do you want to comment there so I can work through it?
[16:02] <maxb> reinventing the wheel to no purpose isn't good, IMO
[16:02] <maxb> ok
[16:04] <AdamDH> I have used that code before on a few projects never had any issues so was reusing it there
[16:04] <AdamDH> maxb I think I have named the upstream source wrong in my package
[16:08] <cprov> maxb: I can easily cancel a build, there is a bug filed about it.
[16:11] <janko__> bump
[16:31] <calmer_> hi there :-)
[16:31] <AdamDH> maxb thanks for the review, I will action those shortly
[16:34] <AdamDH> maxb the next problem is with the patches as I am planning on working on them hence the revision so my patches come from svn etc
[16:37] <calmer_> I have a problem that's quite urgent, but I don't know where to ask for help - I accidently added a file to a bug report that shouldn't be there, who can I talk to to let it be removed? I'm sorry for any inconveniences I make :-/
[16:39] <maxb> calmer_: then delete it again? :-)
[16:40] <calmer_> lol
[16:40] <calmer_> thx
[16:40] <calmer_> :)
[16:40] <calmer_> didn't saw that "edit" beside of the attachment
[16:40] <AdamDH> maxb, I am going to change the versioning on that package now and resubmit to revu
[16:41] <calmer_> *phew* thanx a lot :-)
[16:41] <maxb> AdamDH: btw, why msp430-binutils instead of binutils-msp430?
[16:41] <maxb> I guess we should really take this conversation to #ubuntu-motu
[16:41] <AdamDH> i am in ubuntu-motu
[16:55] <MTecknology> kiko: hi
[16:56] <kiko> hey
[16:56] <MTecknology> I'm not sober or clear headed atm, I'll try to answer that question effectively after I get my laundry done and cleaned up from work ;0
[16:56] <MTecknology> ;P*
[16:57] <MTecknology> kiko: how have you been doung anyway?
[16:57] <kiko> I'm doing good, a bit jet-lagged still here in cape town, but working on stuff I need to deliver next week
[16:58] <MTecknology> I saw you missed the membership approval meeting, it made me sad not to see you and doctormo not there too be approved.
[16:58] <MTecknology> It's not like either of you have anything to worry about getting approved :P
[16:59] <kiko> did I get approved?
[16:59] <kiko> I was on a plane that day!
[16:59] <MTecknology> oh
[17:00] <MTecknology> you can't get approved unless you're there
[17:00] <MTecknology> doctormo didn't make it for the same reason
[17:00] <kiko> I'll just add my name their again the next week I am actually in the office
[17:00] <kiko> it's not that common I travel fridays
[17:01] <MTecknology> kiko: just have a good solid first line ready to explain why you should be approved. I had three lines ready :P
[17:01] <MTecknology> where's your wiki page?
[17:01] <kiko> wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristianReis or something
[17:01] <kiko> it was linked to
[17:03] <MTecknology> I created a wiki.u.c/kiko for ya
[17:03] <MTecknology> secret project?
[17:04] <MTecknology> I'm drunk... that sounds hilarious :P
[17:04] <MTecknology> kiko: do you care if I make a few trivial changes to that?
[17:05] <MTecknology> eh... Ping kiko on freenode => Ping kiko on #freenode
[17:06] <MTecknology> kiko: are you a very active person w/ Ubuntu?
[17:07] <MTecknology> Oh, I'd list the public projects that you've been working on
[17:07] <MTecknology> heh - you're working with magicfab some? I worked w/ one of his loco members on some of the stuff I'm trying to make into a super project
[17:08] <kiko> you are indeed drunk
[17:08] <kiko> that didn't make any sense!!
[17:08] <MTecknology> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syncropated/+bug/200357 Fabián Rodríguez
[17:09] <MTecknology> ubottu: no - don't repeat what I said....
[17:09] <MTecknology> i know...
[17:12] <MTecknology> kiko: does that make more sense now?
[17:14] <MTecknology> kiko: I'm in the process of trying to convince you that ubuntu-drupal should be a super project :P - I didn't have that intention but  Stuart Metcalfe suggested we could better manage all our projects with it. The openid-launchpad, launchpad-openid, and openid-teams modules are going to be part of it
[17:15] <MTecknology> the LoCo Fabián is involved in is the Quebec team. It's been working with that team to bring the LoCo-Drupal project to life. After it came to life, Metcalfe was interested (after prodding) and now we're thinking it might be a good idea to bring all this stuff into one central location (the super project)
[17:16] <MTecknology> but ya - if that makes sense, that's where I was coming from
[17:19] <MTecknology> kiko: oh - those projects will remain the same, we're planning on creating different branches for those projects. Canonical obviously wants to keep the entire control over those branches to themselves, so development will be under a different branch. But I haven't finalized this idea with Metcalfe, I've been waiting for his reply
[17:28] <kiko> MTecknology, but openid-launchpad and launchpad-openid don't have much to do with drupal.
[17:37] <MTecknology> kiko: eh - they work under drupal only
[17:38] <MTecknology> kiko: the loco-drupal team created the first port for Drupal5 to Drupal 6.
[17:38] <MTecknology> The current D6 dev is based directly off the port we created
[17:41] <kiko> MTecknology, um, maybe we are talking about different things. but let's have this chat monday :)
[17:42] <MTecknology> that's part of the reason we renamed loco-drupal to ubuntu-drupal. The things we're doing are expanding to include drupal related stuff that deals with ubuntu in general rather than just a loco. We're also working on a module that will replicate planet.ubuntu.com activity.
[17:42] <MTecknology> kiko: sure thing
[17:43]  * Nafallo tickles kiko
[17:43] <MTecknology> I wanna sleep! I've been up since 01h00, but house chores must be finished.l
[18:46] <kiko> bananinha?!
[18:46] <bananinha> hahaha ignore that
[18:47] <bananinha> makes sense in another channel :P
[22:32] <Bert_2> say, bugs that have been fixed a long time ago but are still marked as "confirmed", can I set them to fix released ?
[22:32] <Bert_2> eg. this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/47768
[22:33] <savvas> Bert_2: if you tested it, subscribe yourself and set it as "fix released" - this way you'll be informed of any different opinions :)
[22:34] <savvas> Bert_2: also mention which release you used to test it
[22:34] <savvas> and.. thanks for helping :)
[22:35] <Bert_2> savvas: is dapper still supported ?
[22:35] <wgrant> It is.
[22:35] <Bert_2> damn
[22:35] <savvas> June 2009 (Desktop)
[22:35] <savvas> June 2011 (Server)
[22:36] <Bert_2> well, I'll try to replicate this bug in dapper, feisty and hardy tomorrow then, cause I think this has been fixed and it's silly that it's still hanging around
[22:36] <wgrant> Feisty is dead.
[22:36] <Bert_2> wgrant: owyeah, that's right
[22:36] <Bert_2> forgot that
[22:37] <savvas> Bert_2: if you believe it's fixed on hardy, set it as fix released and mention that "this is fixed in ubuntu hardy 8.04"
[22:38] <Bert_2> savvas: well, the main problem I'm having now is that the duplicate doesn't seem to be the duplicate
[22:38] <Bert_2> in the on I linked to it has to do with USB stuff
[22:39] <Bert_2> but in the duplicate it's DKMS I think
[22:40] <savvas> hm..
[22:42] <savvas> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/47768/comments/42
[22:42] <savvas> Bert_2: it looks like you're right :)
[22:43] <Bert_2> yeah, they aren't the same, right ?
[22:43] <savvas> No, and I hope I'm right too :)
[22:43] <Bert_2> k
[22:44] <Bert_2> so what are we supposed to do now ?
[22:44] <Bert_2> (the bug part is new to me, I usually do translations and questions)
[22:44] <savvas> ah ok
[22:44] <savvas> go the duplicate bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/262588
[22:45] <savvas> you can edit it where it says "Duplicate of .. #47768"
[22:46] <savvas> and clear the duplicate
[22:46] <savvas> Bert_2: let me know when you're done :)
[22:46] <Bert_2> you mean on top in the box-y thing ?
[22:47] <Bert_2> ow wait, I found it
[22:47] <savvas> great :)
[22:48] <savvas> I'd give you the link, but it's better to get to know the interface
[22:48] <Bert_2> yeah, i've deleted the duplicate and posted a short comment
[22:48] <savvas> ok now there's an arrow next to "linux (Ubuntu)"
[22:49] <savvas> click on it
[22:49] <Bert_2> and put in DKMS ?
[22:49] <savvas> and choose status "Incomplete", ask the users "Hi, can you still reproduce this bug?"
[22:49] <Bert_2> in the box ?
[22:49] <Bert_2> k
[22:49] <savvas> er.. dunno wait
[22:50] <savvas> Bert_2: you're right, change it from linux to dkms as well
[22:52] <Bert_2> okey, I've changed the project it belong to, the status and added a message
[22:52] <Bert_2> so that's what you're supposed to do when you try to help with the bug stuff ?
[22:52] <Bert_2> or is there more ?
[22:53] <savvas> Bert_2: well, you can choose the correct package, you can forward the bugs upstream (to the appropriate website where the developers of the application can notice it) and stuff like that :)
[22:53] <Bert_2> okey
[22:54] <Bert_2> so the 5-a-day thing is just helping to identify basic stuff because users don't know always know all those things ?
[22:54] <Bert_2> *don't always know
[22:54] <Bert_2> (it's getting late apparently)
[22:54] <savvas> Bert_2: you also have to subscribe yourself at that bug, in case a user replies, you set it back to "Confirmed"
[22:55] <savvas> Bert_2: by the way, it's better to join #ubuntu-bugs for this kind of discussion :)
[22:56] <Bert_2> okey
[22:56] <Bert_2> np
[22:56] <Bert_2> thanks for your time
[22:56] <Bert_2> but now I'm off to bed
[22:56] <Bert_2> cya
[22:57] <savvas> night :)