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| tjaalton | sigh, I'm testing easytag 2.1.6, but it's segfaulting a lot when handling flac tags | 11:25 |
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| tjaalton | here's a backtrace when I tried to delete the cover art: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/124218/ | 11:26 |
| tjaalton | but I've no idea where the actual bug is | 11:28 |
| geser | have you the -dbgsym package installed for easytag? | 11:30 |
| tjaalton | no, I built it myself | 11:30 |
| tjaalton | it's a new upstream release (well, ~9 months old) | 11:30 |
| geser | have you build it with debug symbols? | 11:30 |
| geser | and run gdb on the unstripped binary? | 11:31 |
| tjaalton | it's built in pbuilder, but I'll make it not strip it | 11:31 |
| tjaalton | sigh, cdbs.. | 11:31 |
| geser | my first assumption would be it's a programming error in the application and not glib/gtk/pango itself | 11:32 |
| geser | so try to figure out the code in the application what's causing this and if it is doing everything right | 11:32 |
| tjaalton | that's the hard part :) | 11:33 |
| superm1 | hi guys. i'm finding that update-manager is launching above mythtv on it's own rather than behind it. where is the most appropriate place to start debugging so I can assign this bug properly? window manager? update manager itself? | 16:44 |
| pochu | superm1: are you running compiz? | 16:49 |
| superm1 | pochu, no, no compositing enabled. | 16:50 |
| superm1 | xfwm4 has compositing features, but they are disabled on our installs (and i'm looking in a vm anyhow, so there wouldn't be support for compositing even if i wanted it ) | 16:50 |
| pochu | and does it only happen with mythtv? | 16:50 |
| superm1 | well mythtv is the first thing that launches, so you see it immediately. is there a way to force a "background" launch so i can see if it happens with other apps? | 16:51 |
| superm1 | i don't even know what triggers it to launch in the first place | 16:51 |
| pochu | what triggers update-manager launch? | 16:53 |
| pochu | you must be kidding :) | 16:53 |
| pochu | didn't you read ubuntu-devel@ recently? | 16:53 |
| superm1 | yeah i've seen the thread, but i mean the internals - what causes it to come up in the first place so i can debug with it? | 16:54 |
| pochu | ah | 16:55 |
| pochu | superm1: see update-notifier 0.76{,.1} | 16:57 |
| superm1 | okay so it's running update-manager --no-focus-on-map it looks like then. if i run that command from a terminal, should it launch behind that terminal than generally if the window manager is doing the right thing? | 16:59 |
| superm1 | i think so, because switching to a standard ubuntu vm with nautilus that's how it's working | 17:02 |
| * hyperair still thinks that update-manager should _not_ launch automatically | 17:12 | |
| superm1 | thanks for pointing me in the right direction pochu. i'll bring this up with xfce folk then | 17:12 |
| hyperair | either way there's a gconf key for it, so i don't really care. | 17:12 |
| superm1 | worst comes to worst if the window manager doesn't get fixed in time for jaunty, can just ship a gconf key setting to change it's behavior | 17:13 |
| hyperair | superm1: there is a gconf key -- /apps/update-notifier/somethingstartupsomething | 17:14 |
| superm1 | hyperair, yeah that's what i was referring to | 17:15 |
| hyperair | yeah so i don't really care, as long as i can disable it | 17:15 |
| hyperair | it's not very discoverable for the ubuntu newbies who don't like u-m starting up on its own though | 17:15 |
| hyperair | and honestly speaking, i don't think many of them will like it. | 17:15 |
| hyperair | "even windows update doesn't spawn automatically! what possessed the ubuntu devs to make update manager spawn automatically?!" | 17:16 |
| hyperair | yeah i can imagine having to answer to that already, as a loco member. | 17:16 |
| superm1 | i dont really have an opinion about it. i'll let the folks who are putting it together do their research if it's a good idea. i'm not a good representative of general population | 17:16 |
| hyperair | at which point i'll just shrug and tell them how to disable it. | 17:16 |
| hyperair | i _wish_ they're actually doing research about this damnit | 17:17 |
| hyperair | i'd like to know who actually likes having u-m spawn in their faces, or spawn behind every damn thing | 17:17 |
| hyperair | this is reminiscent of one of those stupid popunders that you get in windows if you were stupid/careless enough to get infected by spyware/adware | 17:18 |
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