[00:01] <giovani> milligan_: sure it's not cutoff?
[00:01] <giovani> (the process name)
[00:03] <milligan_> nope
[00:03] <milligan_> How would I check that? :)(
[00:03] <giovani> uh ... you'd go into /usr/sbin/apache and look if any of the utilities start with "log"?
[00:03] <VK7HSE> I'm having some trouble with uscan, I have squid 2.7 (on server) and I'm attempting to use uscan to update a source for another application. here is the error... http://paste.ubuntu.com/124058/  any clues as I've yet to find an answer on google!
[00:04] <milligan_> giovani, ah, like that .. I don't even have a /usb/sbin/apache .. I have a /usr/sbin/apache2/ though
[00:05] <giovani> try using a process viewer like htop
[00:05] <giovani> it allows you to scroll over
[00:05] <giovani> ah
[00:06] <giovani> well some googling has turned up that this might be a trojan
[00:06] <giovani> http://apis.studio707.net.my/wp-content/log.txt
[00:06] <giovani> not a good sign, my friend
[00:07] <giovani> well, not a trojan, a worm of some kind
[00:08] <milligan_> hmm
[00:08] <giovani> pretty bad news
[00:08] <giovani> that server should be quarantined immediately
[00:08] <giovani> if you do a packet capture, I'm sure it's actively attacking
[00:08] <milligan_> I killed off the process, so it's not doing anything at the moment
[00:09] <giovani> it may respawn
[00:09] <giovani> depending on how it started
[00:09] <giovani> and there's probably other stuff installed already
[00:09] <milligan_> question is .. how did the damn thing get in there.. All my users are jailed .. there are no accounts on there that I don't recognize ..
[00:09] <giovani> this script seems to have an irc c&c server
[00:09] <milligan_> guess there might be a roundcube bug or something
[00:09] <giovani> well I'd be looking for this file
[00:09] <milligan_> log.txt ?
[00:09] <giovani> there was a roundcube vuln a month or so ago
[00:09] <giovani> you patch that
[00:10] <giovani> milligan_: no, I'd be doing text searches to find the contents of the file, search on something unique
[00:10] <milligan_> Nope, don't think so
[00:10] <milligan_> doing a search for index.php?pg= ...
[00:10] <giovani> well don't run alpha code like roudcube
[00:11] <giovani> I'd do a text search on /usr/sbin/apache/log
[00:11] <giovani> because we KNOW that's in the file, the version on your server could be modified from the one I just found
[00:11] <milligan_> searching for that as well
[00:11] <JanC> giovani: it doesn't have to be there literally
[00:12] <giovani> JanC: it is in the version we found, it's unlikely that that has been changed versus other parts of the file
[00:12] <milligan_> I suppose the script could be included from a remote location...
[00:13] <giovani> this is why netflow, mod_security, and full packet capture logging is helpful
[00:13] <giovani> you also sifting through your access logs?
[00:15] <milligan_> ah
[00:15] <milligan_> there we go
[00:16] <milligan_> phpshell in the roundcube logs dir.
[00:16] <giovani> hah
[00:16] <giovani> I'd highly recommend a more mature webmail platform
[00:16] <giovani> roundcube has had a lot of problems
[00:17] <Nafallo> what else is there that look as good to the end users?
[00:17] <giovani> well, a) security in this case has to trump pretty uis
[00:17] <giovani> but, there is atmail
[00:17] <giovani> or some creative themes for horde imp
[00:18] <Nafallo> any of them not written in php? :-)
[00:19] <giovani> not that I know of -- although php has nothing to do with these security problems
[00:20] <Nafallo> I've heard that before, and I do not agree.
[00:20] <Nafallo> way to late for me to defend that statement though.
[00:21] <giovani> these are not php vulns, these are pieces of shitty coding
[00:21] <giovani> anyway ... you're the one with a requirement for a pretty ui
[00:21] <giovani> hardly a security perspective
[00:21] <Nafallo> no. my mum is.
[00:22] <giovani> tell your "mum" to use gmail
[00:22] <Nafallo> no way what so ever.
[00:22] <giovani> haha
[00:23] <Nafallo> mum actually got more mail accounts on my server than I do.
[00:23] <Nafallo> o_O
[00:24] <giovani> sounds like she should be using something more robust than webmail
[00:24] <Nafallo> I totally win on aliases though :-)
[00:25] <Nafallo> she is. I'm not hosting webmail at the moment :-)
[00:25] <giovani> no problem then
[00:25] <Nafallo> she has requested it, and I'm rolling it into my new system.
[00:36] <milligan_> giovani, thanks for helping out mate .. I believe I found their way in, and I've patched it :)
[00:41] <milligan_> giovani, http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/7553 <- There's what they used.
[00:54] <giovani> milligan_: yeah, that was patched at the end of december
[00:54] <milligan_> not on my server,hehehe.
[00:54] <giovani> milligan_: I'd sign up for their RSS feed if I were you
[00:54] <giovani> 0.2 beta is also depricated now
[00:54] <giovani> 0.2 final is out
[00:54] <milligan_> yeah
[00:54] <milligan_> I'm running stable
[00:55] <giovani> the security vuln was fixed in stable iirc
[00:55] <giovani> http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=898542
[01:09] <axisys> when I insert my second sata disk in x2100 I get this message http://pastebin.com/f440500f0
[01:09] <axisys> what is that mean? fdisk -l shows only one disk
[01:09] <axisys> i have two disks in there now
[01:11] <giovani> axisys: it means hotplugging may not be supporteD?
[01:12] <axisys> here is my lshw report http://pastebin.com/f4ab4d135 .. i see only one disk
[01:12] <axisys> giovani: so I need to reboot?
[01:12] <axisys> giovani: is there any way to enable hotplug btw ?
[01:12] <giovani> axisys: generically when you want to insert new hardware like a hard drive ... yes, you have to reboot
[01:12] <giovani> axisys: that would require a special drive for your card, afaik, and the card would have to support it
[01:12] <axisys> giovani: in solaris i just run devfsadm .. hoping somethin similar
[01:13] <giovani> well solaris probably has a driver for your sun box
[01:13] <giovani> google
[01:13] <giovani> for your specific hardware
[01:13] <axisys> giovani: ok .. thnx
[01:13] <giovani> http://docs.sun.com/source/819-3722-19/index.html#21924
[01:14] <giovani> your own company's docs say it's not even supported in solaris
[01:14] <axisys> giovani: i dont work for sun
[01:14] <giovani> anyway, this is a common practice
[01:14] <giovani> yes, but this is #ubuntu-server, not #sun, so, I'd expect that you'd have looked at your hardware's docs first
[01:15] <giovani> I didn't mean that you worked for sun, I meant, this is not an ubuntu-specific issue
[01:15] <axisys> i usually get more help from ubuntu.. so decided to install that over solaris
[01:16] <axisys> giovani: ofcourse it is not ubuntu specific.. just learning.. :-)
[01:16] <JanC> IIRC there is a way to tell the kernel to rescan for disks
[01:16] <giovani> ok, well in general, if something hardware-related doesn't work, go to the source first
[01:17] <axisys> giovani: thnx
[01:17] <axisys> JanC: that would be nice..
[01:17] <JanC> but IIRC there is no guarantee that it works, or that it doesn't blow up your server...   :P
[01:18] <axisys> hehe
[01:19] <JanC> also, you should never use it while other disks are mounted, which makes it pretty useless in most cases
[01:20] <axisys> JanC: i am wondering if i could have use hardware raid instead of jbod like i am doing now
[01:20] <JanC> hardware raid?
[01:21] <axisys> JanC: i think this box, x2100 has hardware raid available
[01:21] <JanC> well, maybe Sun ships real hardware RAID, I don't know
[01:21] <axisys> checking
[01:22] <axisys> looking at the handbook
[01:22] <axisys> http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_private/validateUser.do?target=Systems/SunFireX2100/SunFireX2100
[01:23] <JanC> I don't have Sun server (meaning i can't read that page)
[01:32] <bcurtiswx> Anyone, i installed an ubuntu mail server through the ubuntu guide.  Using dovecot, I seem to get the messages (as they are sitting in /var/mail/<my username>) but i can't retrieve them using a GUI (like squirrelmail or evolution).. can anyone help me find out why (i've searched the internet with no help, and logs don't show any errors).
[01:38] <JanC> which guide?
[01:39] <bcurtiswx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[01:39] <giovani> well did you configure dovecot?
[01:39] <bcurtiswx> yes
[01:40] <giovani> so it's running on imap/pop3 ports?
[01:40] <bcurtiswx> yup
[01:40] <giovani> and what happens when you try and log in?
[01:40] <bcurtiswx> http://www.zoneedit.com/smtp.html
[01:40] <bcurtiswx> that works great when i inser tinfo
[01:40] <bcurtiswx> i can log on fine
[01:40] <giovani> smtp != pop3/imap
[01:41] <giovani> they're deivered by separate programs
[01:41] <bcurtiswx> well that tests to see if mail servers working in the first place
[01:41] <giovani> it says smtp.html -- I presume it's testing smtp
[01:41] <giovani> not imap/pop
[01:41] <bcurtiswx> yes, sorry for that being confusing
[01:41] <bcurtiswx> that was more of a side note
[01:41] <axisys> i rebooted the x2100 and now I see both disks .. and fdisk -l shows this  http://pastebin.com/d3b4626a9
[01:41] <axisys> how do I mirror the second disk to the first?
[01:41] <giovani> axisys: mirror? you want to do software raid?
[01:42] <JanC> bcurtiswx: where does dovecot look for mails?
[01:43] <JanC> is tha tthe same place as where your MDA delivers them?
[01:43] <giovani> well first we need to see what happens when he tries to connect to dovecot
[01:43] <giovani> we don't even know if it's running
[01:43] <JanC> true
[01:43] <giovani> since he's just talked about checking smtp
[01:43] <axisys> giovani: yes please
[01:44] <bcurtiswx> Feb 27 20:34:38 weather dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<bcurtis>, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, TLS
[01:44] <giovani> axisys: you'll obviously need to start fresh -- as software raid has to be done before installation on top of that medium, unless you're raiding two non-OS disks
[01:44] <bcurtiswx> good enough proof its working??
[01:44] <giovani> bcurtiswx: running, yes -- but clearly misconfigured if it's not giving you your mail
[01:45] <axisys> giovani: interesting! on solaris I could just mirror the second and a reboot would activate the metadisk
[01:45] <JanC> giovani: he can setup a degraded raid1 on the second disk, format it, copy everything over, fix fstab etc., then after rebooting and everthing works add the first disk to the raid too  ;)
[01:45] <bcurtiswx> giovani: ok based on the guide listed above.. do i have to go in line by line of dovecot.conf to get it setup right..
[01:46] <bcurtiswx> the guide doesn't go that in detail i guess is a more general question
[01:46] <axisys> JanC: that would be ideal for me
[01:46] <JanC> axisys: considering that your system is a new install, just start over again, it will be faster...
[01:47] <axisys> JanC: if i start over how would I do the mirror ? build with LVM option?
[01:47] <JanC> you don't need lvm
[01:48] <axisys> JanC: when i was installing i did not see any other option for raid
[01:49] <JanC> so do it manually from another virtual console than the installer runs on?
[01:49] <JanC> and carefully read the mdadm manual
[01:49] <axisys> JanC: would be nice if there is a guide somewhere..
[01:52] <giovani> JanC: really? that sounds horribly messy
[01:53] <giovani> axisys: there are raid options in the installer
[01:53] <giovani> but JanC seems to know more about md than I do -- I stay away from software raid
[01:55] <axisys> giovani: yeah lspci shows that too.. i guess that would be simpler... even though need a fresh install
[01:56] <JanC> if that hardware raid is reliable (and a real hardware raid) it might be better to use that
[01:57] <axisys> JanC: it is nvidia nvraid .. not sure how reliable that is
[01:57] <axisys> 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev f2)
[01:57] <axisys> 00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3)
[01:57] <axisys> 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3)
[01:58] <bcurtiswx> giovani: yes i am an idiot... i missed 3 settings in dovecot.conf... thanks for the help.. sorry for being.. "that guy" lol.. cheers
[01:58] <JanC> nvidia? that sounds like some sort of fakeraid, but I might be wrong   ;)
[01:59] <JanC> are you sure that's the raid controller BTW?
[02:00] <axisys> JanC: yes
[02:00] <axisys> JanC: http://docs.sun.com/source/820-6350-10/chapter1.html#d0e1261
[02:01] <axisys> JanC: http://docs.sun.com/source/820-6350-10/chapter1.html#d0e500
[02:09] <JanC> I'm almost sure that's some sort of "fakeraid", so linux software raid (md) is probably the better choice
[02:10] <giovani> yeah, I'm pretty sure nvidia raid is fake
[02:39] <axisys> well then I should start looking for a software raid howto
[02:40] <axisys> i am glad i asked about the nvraid or i almost took the wrong path :-)
[02:47] <JanC> this might be useful reading: http://linux-raid.osdl.org/index.php/Linux_Raid
[03:00] <axisys> JanC: thnx
[03:01] <JanC_> there is some info on mdadm on the Ubuntu wiki too, but not really a howto AFAICS
[03:01] <JanC_> or maybe there is
[03:02] <JanC_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[03:05] <JanC> bah, crappy ADSL connection
[03:05] <axisys> JanC: thnx a lot
[03:06] <JanC> I learned most of what I use from the man pages though  ツ
[03:08] <JanC> well, man-pages + trial & error
[03:08] <axisys> JanC: so u use mdadm ?
[03:11] <JanC> yes, but I don't have a lot of experience with it really
[03:14] <JanC> except that it saved me a some work once (one of the 2 brand-new disks in my raid1 failed after a couple of weeks, before I'd set up backups ;) )
[03:15] <JanC> (this is on a desktop)
[03:17] <JanC> well, s/desktop/low-end workstation/
[03:18] <JanC> it has some cool features that you won't find on most desktop motherboard  ツ
[03:19] <axisys> JanC: ok .. still reading this http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html
[03:20] <axisys> JanC: pretty good writing.. then will read your two links
[03:23] <JanC> axisys: remember that you need "mdadm", not what they say about "raidtools"; that HOWTO seems a bit outdated
[03:24] <JanC> 'man mdadm' is probably more useful...
[03:25] <axisys> JanC: i am just trying to get an understanding.. your first link claims to be more up-to-date..
[03:25] <axisys> ok
[04:10] <axisys> how can I tell from this X4100 's layout if I am using hardware raid or disk http://pastebin.com/d1df57f3c ?
[04:17] <axisys> i guess according to smartctl i am using the hardware raid http://pastebin.com/f2eb79df7
[04:18] <JanC> I might be wrong, but AFAIK LSI MegaRAID is fakeraid too
[04:19] <jmarsden> MegaRAID is a whole range of devices, many of which are high end SCSI real RAID controllers.
[04:19] <axisys> JanC: lol
[04:19] <JanC> jmarsden: ah, okay
[04:21] <JanC> jmarsden: I wish manufacturers would not re-ab-use marketing names like that  :-(
[04:22] <jmarsden> Yep... you just have to go down a level and use model numbers... but then you get Linksys and the "WRT54G" model, which has changed completely about 5 or 6 times by now...!
[04:25] <JanC> jmarsden: yeah, that's a really complicated case, because they also sell devices that are like older WRT54G revisions under a slightly other model number etc.   ;)
[04:27] <axisys> JanC: this I can definitely follow http://kuparinen.org/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/raid.html :-)
[04:54] <Mal3ko> are there tweaks for optimizing server connection?
[04:55] <JanC> Mal3ko: what do you mean?
[04:57] <Mal3ko> tuning and optimizing vpn server with high network load
[05:14] <JanC> Mal3ko: sorry, no experience with that
[05:19] <JanC> Mal3ko: there are some hardware-based solutions for that, or you could try some load balancing over multiple servers
[09:58] <pjsturgeon> crontab is not running. any ideas?
[09:59] <pjsturgeon> ps aux | grep cron shows cron is running
[09:59] <pjsturgeon> and i am using a * * * * * * rule
[10:07] <cemc> in which file ?
[10:08] <cemc> pjsturgeon: in which file did you put that?
[10:08] <cemc> and you only have five stars, not six
[10:08] <pjsturgeon> crontab -e and that was off the top of my head to signify an all *'s rule
[10:08] <pjsturgeon> it seems to be running but no output, so i guess its another problem.
[10:08] <pjsturgeon> thanks anyhow :)
[10:25] <rdw200169> no one mentioned the newline thing to pjsturgeon, i suppose... that's one has burned me *many* times...
[10:26] <cemc> I have a machine with a P4 processor on it,
[10:26] <cemc> how could I enable hyperthreading ?
[10:27] <cemc> kernel param, or other kernel?
[10:27] <cemc> smp kernel?
[10:27] <cemc> it's an Ibex install
[11:15] <micro-`> hello, im using ubuntu-server, i want to get the most updated packeges, how can i enter the "unstable" (debian like) apt tree?
[12:44] <godsyn> please assist. using 2.6.27-11-server. I acquired an HP webcam (15b8:6002) that isn't detected. Dmesg shows a new HID ([HP HP WEBCAM])] on the bus, but seems to fail to use any drivers. To my understanding: they, as of intrepid, are in the kernal  Help?
[13:24] <|HSO|SadiQ> I get a warning like this in my server's log:  Address 79.112.225.217 maps to 79-112-225-217.rdsnet.ro, but this does not map back to the address - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT! ... that's my Ip ...should I worry???
[14:36] <|HSO|SadiQ> nobody can tell me??
[15:38] <Dan722> anyone here?
[15:38] <kookaburra> Yep
[15:39] <Dan722> hi, i need help setting up my ubuntu server box =/
[15:39] <Dan722> and so i figured after google this is the next best place to go.
[15:39] <kookaburra> What, exactly, do you need?
[15:39] <Dan722> i amtrying to setup a host serve to hst adomain
[15:39] <Dan722> host*
[15:39] <Dan722> i bought a domain, i just need to setup the server part.
[15:40] <kookaburra> OK, so you trying to host a single site on a your server?
[15:40] <Dan722> yep
[15:40] <kookaburra> OK, and what part are you having trouble with?
[15:40] <Dan722> umm.... i tryed a tutorial but it wasnt very clear
[15:41] <Dan722> so, like everything from installation of ubuntu server
[15:41] <kookaburra> What part?
[15:41] <kookaburra> This isn't like flipping a light switch, it's kind of a multi-part process...
[15:41] <Dan722> getting the programs i need to host a server effectively
[15:41] <kookaburra> OK, let's start with the easiest part first
[15:41] <kookaburra> Do you have Apache installed?
[15:42] <Dan722> we just started reinstalling ubuntu server 8.10
[15:42] <Dan722> the tutorial i tried sorta screwed the first install up
[15:42] <kookaburra> OK, let's go up a level then
[15:42] <Dan722> :(
[15:43] <kookaburra> Do you have a working copy of Uubntu?
[15:43] <Dan722> yep
[15:43] <kookaburra> OK, and now, do you have a copy of Apache running on the server?
[15:43] <Dan722> we're installing the server on the box right now
[15:44] <kookaburra> So then you don't have a working copy of Ubuntu?
[15:44] <Dan722> well, we have the cd, thats what i thought you meant
[15:44] <Dan722> but we're reinstalling right now
[15:44] <kookaburra> OK, let's get that installed first
[15:45] <kookaburra> What problems are you having with the install?
[15:45] <Dan722> none, i just need to know programs i need to host a domain on it
[15:45] <Dan722> after i install
[15:46] <kookaburra> Well, that sort of depends on what you'e going to be doing with the domain...
[15:46] <Dan722> getting a basic html/css website up
[15:47] <kookaburra> ok, that helps
[15:48] <Dan722> :)
[15:48] <kookaburra> As far as programs I would use:
[15:49] <kookaburra> Apache - For actually serving the site
[15:49] <kookaburra> BIND9 - For DNS
[15:49] <kookaburra> Technically that's all you need to host the site
[15:50] <kookaburra> You'll probably want some additional features, so for reporting you might check out Webalizer
[15:50] <Dan722> how about mail servers?
[15:50] <Dan722> well. dan is now talking with his mother.
[15:50] <Dan722> =P
[15:50] <Dan722> so scratch the the mail part.
[15:51] <kookaburra> I'd guess that you're going to want some sort of FTP on that rascal so I'd stick ProFTPD on there too
[15:51] <Dan722> okay
[15:51] <Dan722> *writing this down*
[15:51] <kookaburra> As far as basic setup, getting those four on there will get you up and running.
[15:52] <Dan722> alright. how do we actually get the domain to 'point' to our server
[15:52] <kookaburra> I'd recommend using someone else's HOWTOs on them since I'm not going to re-write one here in the channel.
[15:52] <kookaburra> DNS.
[15:52] <Dan722> quite.
[15:52] <kookaburra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093
[15:52] <Dan722> you rock.
[15:53] <kookaburra> Now, I don't think anyone in here is averse to helping if you run into problems
[15:53] <kookaburra> BUT
[15:53] <kookaburra> rtfm applies.
[15:53] <Dan722> averse?
[15:54] <kookaburra> No one in here is against helping you.
[15:54] <kookaburra> In short - don't ask for help on that's something clearly covered in a HOWTO
[15:54] <Dan722> alright.
[15:54] <kookaburra> But if you run into problems don't be a stranger.
[15:54] <Dan722> so work with what i have until i really get stuck. then come running for help?
[15:54] <kookaburra> Pretty much.
[15:54] <kookaburra> Best way to learn is to get yourself unstuck.
[15:54] <Dan722> alright. will do :P
[15:55] <kookaburra> If you come back and say "Well on line x of tutorial Y it says to replace IP address z.z.z.z with my IP, what do I put in" you're not going to learn anything
[15:55] <Dan722> yeah i follow.
[16:03] <awell> I have installed ebox on my ubuntu server 8.04. What modules are the best to use?
[16:11] <awell> I have intalled ebox to manage my ubunut server. What modules are best to use?
[16:17] <Deeps> !serverguide | Dan722
[16:41] <Dan722> whenever i change my ip address settings to static, we lose internet connection
[16:42] <Dan722> any suggestions?
[16:42] <Dan722> ubottu?
[16:47] <Dan722> =[
[16:47] <giovani> Dan722: sounds like the settings you're using are wrong
[16:47] <Dan722> i have no idea.
[16:47] <giovani> if they were right, they'd work
[16:47] <Dan722> i have no idea about any of this.
[16:47] <Dan722> clearly.
[16:47] <giovani> well, this is not a place where we can tell you what your IP settings should be
[16:47] <giovani> you have to go to your ISP, or your Net Admin
[16:47] <Dan722> yeah i know.
[16:47] <giovani> or whomever gave you that information
[16:47] <Dan722> *back to google*
[16:47] <giovani> no
[16:47] <Dan722> :P
[16:47] <giovani> google cannot tell you what your IP settings are
[16:48] <Dan722> hey google is a diety!
[16:48] <giovani> it's either your ISP, or your Net Admin
[16:48] <giovani> whomever runs your network
[16:48] <Dan722> don't question it's ability.
[16:48] <giovani> are you trolling?
[16:48] <Dan722> i don't do drugs?
[17:23] <NotToBeNamed> hi - what is easier to monitor and to extend (using lvm): a hardware-based raid5 or a software-based?
[17:57] <ircmaxell> Anyone have much luck with IBM serveRaid controllers?  I can't get more than about 1MBps to a 1E0 6 drive array in anything but Centos/RHEL (I get about 80MBps on Centos)
[17:57] <giovani> well ... you probably want to look into what driver centos/rhel is using
[17:57] <giovani> clearly it's gonna be a driver issue
[17:58] <ircmaxell> Fair enough, I was just shocked at such a big difference (FreeBSD couldn't exceed 128kbps)
[17:58] <giovani> well did you even go to IBM to talk about linux drivers? did they supply one?
[17:58] <ircmaxell> They don't supply drivers except a binary driver for RHEL
[17:59] <giovani> some hardware out of the box will not play nicely with default drivers
[17:59] <giovani> well then it sounds like you either need to use RHEL or you need to get better hardware that doesn't limit support that way
[17:59] <ircmaxell> quite fair enough...  Too bad too, cause these boards are really nice...
[17:59] <genii> If there is an rpm driver install file, conceivable to use alien to convert the package
[18:00] <ircmaxell> I'll look into it...
[18:00] <ircmaxell> Thanks for the direction...
[18:04] <giovani> gets messy if the kernel is much different
[18:04] <giovani> but yea
[18:50] <storrgie> just configured a server, i was going to use webmin... but if i remember right there is something new that works right with ubuntu from the repos
[18:50] <storrgie> anyone know what it is?
[18:50] <JanC> ebox
[18:50] <JanC> webmin is icky
[18:52] <storrgie> is it FOSS?
[18:52] <storrgie> its broken in 8.10?
[18:59] <storrgie> how would I add the key through command line?
[19:01] <axisys> i have two interfaces. so to avoid i turn off router option on dhcpclient.conf file .. now to add default gw I added this for one of the interface in interfaces file like this "post-up 'route add default gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth1'" but that did not add the gw.. is my syntax wrong?
[19:01] <axisys> to avoid two default gw that is
[19:09] <giovani> axisys: you don't put '' around the post-up command to run, afaik
[19:10] <giovani> it's just "post-up commandlinehere"
[19:10] <giovani> but read the manpage
[19:10] <axisys> man interfaces dont have quotes either.. thnx .. let me retry
[19:13] <axisys> cool! that worked.. thnx
[19:14] <axisys> how do I make a virtual interface out of two physical interface ? so I get increase bandwidth and redundancy .. in solaris i just say dladm create-aggr -d eth0 -d eth1 1 and the aggr1 is the my interface
[19:15] <giovani> it's called nic bonding
[19:15] <giovani> google
[19:15] <axisys> giovani: ok .. terminology is my first barrier :-)
[19:16] <giovani> it's called that on most OSes :)
[19:16] <giovani> bsd/linux/and I've seen it mentioned in solaris as well
[19:16] <giovani> or nic teaming sometimes
[19:18] <axisys> giovani: this looks really simple http://koo.fi/tech/2008/08/02/nic-bonding-with-ubuntu/
[19:18] <giovani> yep, it's not complex
[19:18] <giovani> but you should understand the different bonding modes
[19:18] <axisys> so this is giving me redundancy only or increased bandwidth as well ?
[19:18] <giovani> read above
[19:19] <axisys> giovani: :-)
[19:19] <giovani> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/marcelo/linux-2.4/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt
[19:19] <giovani> good mini tutorial -- near the end it explains the different modes
[19:20] <giovani> wtf is wrong with this table
[19:20] <giovani> it randomly decides to not recognize the hard drive
[19:20] <giovani> tablet*
[19:21] <axisys> giovani: so ubuntu runs on tablet ?
[19:21] <giovani> ubuntu is just a distribution
[19:22] <giovani> a tablet is just a formfactor
[19:22] <giovani> so ... the answer is yes, but why wouldn't it?
[19:23] <axisys> giovani: i like that answer.. i am going to use that .. hehe
[19:23] <giovani> ?
[19:23] <giovani> the point being, other than a touchscreen, there's zero difference between a laptop and a tablet
[19:25] <axisys> giovani: so touchscreen works?
[19:25] <giovani> with some work, yes
[19:26] <giovani> but once again, because ubuntu is just a distribution, driver availability isn't specific to ubuntu, so, it's more of a linux question
[19:27] <axisys> giovani: did u need to install some specific driver after the initial install? hope my curiosity is not too annoying
[19:28] <giovani> yeah, but, I don't remember, it was a few years ago, and most of my tablet time is now in Windows 7, because of much better support for handwriting, etc
[19:36] <giovani> however, I'm sure ubuntu has been working on its tablet support with their MID/UMPC editio
[19:36] <giovani> edition*
[19:51] <axisys> giovani: hey i posted a question couple weeks ago on migrating my ubuntu on my laptop to a bigger disk .. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2009-February/175206.html
[19:51] <axisys> giovani: can u comment on any of the steps ?
[19:52] <giovani> why not just image the drive?
[19:52] <giovani> and resize the partition
[19:52] <axisys> i received enough answers .. and so far i am going w/ original steps and may be archiving the /etc dir as well and restore from there..
[19:52] <axisys> i have no space to save a 40gb disk image
[19:52] <giovani> haha
[19:53] <giovani> are you using 40GB?
[19:53] <axisys> giovani: nah ... http://pastebin.com/f3552b9ff
[19:53] <giovani> archiving the etc directory? oh boy, you just want to mess up your file structure
[19:54] <axisys> giovani: not restoring .. but pick stuff from there..
[19:54] <giovani> yeah, this just sounds like a mess, but ok
[19:55] <axisys> giovani: :-( .. i guess i should then by a usb to ata cable and hang the new disk from my laptop ?
[19:55] <axisys> s/by/buy/
[19:55] <giovani> how would that help?
[19:55] <axisys> giovani: that way push the whole disk content thru usb to new disk
[19:55] <giovani> but that's not the issue
[19:55] <axisys> new disk is 250gb
[19:56] <giovani> do you not have other computers or something?
[19:56] <axisys> giovani: i have another computer w/ about 25g avail
[19:56] <axisys> running ubuntu server
[19:57] <axisys> on same subnet w/ two network cards ;-)
[19:57] <giovani> yeah, do this however you like
[19:57] <giovani> this is why I keep a few TB available as a SAN all the time
[19:57] <giovani> just dd an image off
[19:57] <axisys> giovani: i have enough space at work.. i can dump the iso there
[19:59] <maDChoPR> i have a question regarding bacula ... i'm wondering if it's possible to set up a backup system while my systems are getting dynamic addresses? (even the server gets a dynamic address... currently)
[19:59] <giovani> maDChoPR: sounds like a question for #bacula
[19:59] <maDChoPR> yea, i asked earlier and no response.
[19:59] <maDChoPR> i'll rephrase it though
[19:59] <maDChoPR> thanks giovani
[19:59] <giovani> unlikely someone here will know more than there
[22:44] <tsrk> How can I see what processes are using the most memory?
[22:45] <hads> top
[22:54] <giovani> or even better ... htop