[00:09] <SuspectZero> !pingme
[00:17] <drostie> !robots
[00:17] <drostie> !zombies
[00:17] <drostie> !raptors
[00:17] <drostie> :-( ubottu, you're not helping me with the zombie robot raptor invasion :-(
[00:17] <HappySmileMan> !computers
[00:17] <HappySmileMan> SO YOU ADMIT IT
[00:18] <HappySmileMan> ALL YOUR ADVICE IS WORTHLESS
[00:18] <drostie> !advice
[00:26] <compilerwriter> !bug#1
[00:28] <quassel208> Can i get apt-get on system like moblin ?
[00:28] <quassel208> its based on suse and fedora
[00:31] <asobi> where is kpdf located?
[00:31] <asobi> file path
[00:32] <goofey> quassel208: fedora is RPM based - #fedora would knoe if there's a way to get apt-get to work on it
[00:33] <goofey> asobi try "which kpdf"
[00:33] <goofey> asobi: mine says /usr/bin/kpdf
[00:37] <asobi> thanks
[00:40] <SuspectZero> !pingme
[00:41] <mbana> what's the default driver for the 8800 gts 512mb on ubuntu intrepid ibex ubuntu 8.10
[00:43] <SuspectZero> !pingme
[00:54] <mbana> how do i uninstall kde?
[01:00] <goofey> if you do that in kubuntu, you'll be without a window manager
[01:00] <goofey> mbana: did you install gnome?
[01:00] <mbana> goofey: yes i do
[01:01] <mbana> i only wanted kde for the file browser
[01:02] <goofey> mbana: so you want to uninstall kde but keep konqueror
[01:03] <goofey> mbana: or is it nautulas you're after?
[01:03] <mbana> no i want the KDE file browser and to remove KDE
[01:04] <goofey> mbana: i guess what I'm trying to get to is that the KDE file browser is going to have most of kde as a dependency
[01:04] <mbana> how stupid
[01:05] <goofey> mbana: really?  it's the *kde* file browser
[01:06] <mbana> if i run sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:06] <goofey> mbana: if you want to know what the dependanies are, type apt-cahce showpkg "kde file browser name"
[01:06] <goofey> er, apt-cache showpkg
[01:07] <mbana> this is strange; it's wanting to remove my texlive install and other needed dependencies
[01:20] <mbana> goofey: how do i unistall this
[01:23] <goofey> mbana: you'll need to find out what the dependencies are of the kde file browser first. then you can remove what's left of kde after that - my guess is it won't be much
[01:23] <goofey> but the command is sudo apt-get remove (or purge) application(s)
[01:25] <mbana> ok i'm confused
[01:25] <mbana> i don't want the file browser anymore
[01:25] <mbana> i just to get rid of KDe
[01:29] <meh_ivan> hi, how can i run krunner from the konsole directly into "view system activity"? (same as ctrl+esc)
[01:29] <goofey> mbana: who did you install it?
[01:29] <goofey> mbana: casue there are a couple different ways
[01:30] <mbana> goofey: CLI.  one line if i remember
[01:30] <goofey> mbana: right, but did you install kde or kubuntu-desktop?
[01:30] <mbana> kubuntu-desktop i think
[01:30] <mbana> not sure
[01:31] <goofey> mbana: ok, what happens when you type sudo apt-get -s purge kubuntu-dekstop
[01:31] <mbana> btw, how do i change the boot screen
[01:32] <goofey> mbana: boot screen?  You mean grub?
[01:32] <mbana> no after installing kde, i got the KDE boot screen
[01:34] <goofey> mbana: I *think* this will do that: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-switch-between-gdm-and-kdm-on-ubuntu/
[02:13] <CompuHacker> Gentlemen. Ladies.
[02:21] <Luffy-Kun> hi
[02:34]  * SokeSpor Herkese iyi geceler Dileklerim ile Kendinize  iyi bakın Birbirinize  iyi davranın !!!.
[02:38] <Gartral2> god evening all
[02:38] <Gartral2> good*
[02:38] <Luffy-Kun> xD
[02:39] <Gartral2> my GUI is all smegged up (KDE 4.1) i have a black bar across my desktop and my bar wont completly remder
[02:39] <Gartral2> kbar*
[02:41] <Gartral2> should i upload a screenshot somewhere?
[02:42] <Luffy-Kun> I don't speak english, I can't you help, sorry :)
[02:42] <Gartral2> you seem rather fluent now >.<
[02:44] <Gartral2> im getting sick of gnome....
[02:44] <Luffy-Kun> because, I use a simply langage
[02:45]  * Luffy-Kun regarde : Within Temptation - The Silent Force Tour - Part 1.avi [Kaffeine]
[02:48] <Luffy-Kun> Sysinfo for 'L': Linux 2.6.24-19-generic running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz at 1596 MHz (4808 bogomips), HD: 1067/1119GB, RAM: 7948/7995MB, 153 proc's, 13.5h up
[02:54] <PodeCoet> Anyone know where all the kontact-specific settings are stored? I found a few (mail, identities, accounts), but I cant find the files for filters etc
[02:55] <Luffy-Kun> I don't use Kontact, sorry :)
[02:57] <PodeCoet> found it :P looks like I had the right file, but Kontact was still resident after deleting, so it wrote itself back after I deleted :\
[02:57] <PodeCoet> Kontact rocks! Why dont you use it?
[02:58] <varghese> has anyone tried the jaunty alpha 5
[02:58] <Luffy-Kun> maybe here : /usr/share/apps/kontact/
[02:59] <varghese> has anyone tried the jaunty alpha 5 ??
[03:00] <Luffy-Kun> I don't use, because I don't need xD
[03:02] <Luffy-Kun> no, I wait official rlz
[03:05] <Luffy-Kun> Uptime: 13 hours and 21 minutes
[03:06] <Luffy-Kun> French time : [04:05]
[03:06] <fuubee> http://ihateyoujessica.com/?id=cyjr8ay0ecr5najbrw35i0rqqv0jxf
[03:07]  * Luffy-Kun is watching Simon Simons Epica.h264 [Kaffeine]
[03:08] <PodeCoet> haha, that site is genius
[03:09] <Luffy-Kun> genius ? I'm here :D
[03:10] <PodeCoet> god damn one-piece :P
[03:10] <Luffy-Kun> lol
[03:12] <PodeCoet> Bleach / Inuyasha, now they're awesome lol
[03:14]  * Luffy-Kun is listening to soundscape to ardor by Sagisu Shirou on BLEACH Original Soundtrack 3 [Amarok]
[03:14] <Luffy-Kun> OST 3 roxx
[03:17] <wildbat_> hi any good P2P program for KDE?
[03:18] <Luffy-Kun> aMule ? xD
[03:18] <Luffy-Kun> P2P is bad :p
[03:19] <Luffy-Kun> 	vive la résistance
[03:19] <JontheEchidna> ktorrent is good
[03:19] <Luffy-Kun> vi
[03:22] <PodeCoet> wildbat_: frostwire is good for quick music (MP3 ONLY)
[03:22] <PodeCoet> but all the video is a mixture of incest and gay midget pornography
[03:23] <PodeCoet> ..most of which are DRM'd to death and install backdoors on your machine
[03:23] <Luffy-Kun> xD
[03:23] <dr_Willis> midget   backdoor porn ?
[03:23] <rick_> Hello.  New to Kubuntu, and new to the IRC...
[03:25] <Luffy-Kun> welcome 	bienvenue
[03:26] <Dillizar> any one here
[03:26] <rick_> Hi
[03:26] <Dillizar> hi
[03:26] <Dillizar> do ya know the command so i can go in as root
[03:26] <dr_Willis> !sudo
[03:27] <Dillizar> not sudo
[03:27] <Slartibartfast> sudo -i
[03:27] <rick_> sorry.  I am brand new here.  Just installed Hubuntu over my windows this afternoon...
[03:28] <Dillizar> i want to go visually as root
[03:28] <dr_Willis> Your question is not clear Dillizar   you use 'sudo' for most 'root'  tasks.
[03:28] <dr_Willis> you do NOT log directly into X as root.
[03:28] <dr_Willis> thats a very bad idea
[03:28] <Slartibartfast> rick_: so you wiped windows from your HD and formated the partition with ext3 or something like that ?
[03:28] <Luffy-Kun> congratulation, you win a desktop clean :D
[03:28] <dr_Willis> and its disabled in the kdm config and gdm configs i belive.. and by the fact that root has no direct password to login with.
[03:28] <Dillizar> dr_Willis, i cant unmount a virtual cd
[03:29] <Dillizar> what is the command to make a folder
[03:29] <dr_Willis> Im thinking you may want to read a few linux basics/bash basics tutoriakls,,.
[03:29] <rick_> Just installed Kubuntu over my windows this afternoon... w/ KD on to CD - then did the full install from CD
[03:29] <dr_Willis> mkdir - makes a directory
[03:29] <dr_Willis> umount UNMOUNTS a filesystem.
[03:30] <dr_Willis> note theres no 'n' in umount. :)
[03:30] <rick_> So yes, it created a new partition for Kubuntu
[03:30] <rick_> but it looks as if it preserved the folders on my disk
[03:31] <Luffy-Kun> okay
[03:31] <Slartibartfast> rick_: i mean: there are different ways of installing Kubuntu. One is that you bootup the computer from the Kubuntu CD and install from there ...... and the other is when you have windows running and install it in a big image file which stays inside the Windows partition
[03:32] <rick_> the first.  I booted from the CD, and installed
[03:33] <Slartibartfast> OK ... and then you did a guided disk partitioning ?
[03:33] <leandro_> Alguem BR ?
[03:33] <Slartibartfast> and now you don't have windows anymore? ... would be a brave step :-)
[03:34] <rick_> yes (guided disk part)
[03:34] <Luffy-Kun> I use Kubunru 64 and windows 32 on virtual machine (Vbox sun), this process is very util for the Adobe software (after effect, premiere, illustrator and photoshop)
[03:34] <rick_> yeah - ballsy...lol
[03:35] <Slartibartfast> rick_: Thats great ... so there must be something you like to ask / talk about :-)
[03:36] <Luffy-Kun> for now, i wait presently Jahshaka version 3 and Lumiera :)
[03:36] <rick_> Lots.  First: How do I put the PC in sleep mode (hibernate)?
[03:37] <dr_Willis> Hibernate/suspend can cause  issues. :) deopendiong on the exact hardware
[03:37] <Slartibartfast> rick_: ... mmm i myself have not good experiences with sleep modes and hybernation in linux .... it is still a work in progress
[03:37] <dr_Willis> ive not had good experioence with it under windows either
[03:37] <manuel__> tag
[03:38] <Slartibartfast> dr_Willis: yeah .. me too .. some sound problems where the last issues
[03:38] <rick_> I had the options (grayed out) when running from CD, but after the actuall install - I lost the Hibernate buttons
[03:39] <Slartibartfast> rick_ i have them on the developers version  jaunty in the 'leave section' of the Kmenu
[03:39] <dr_Willis> if you are using Kde, use KDM, if using GNOME use GDM.. otherwise ive noticed some of the poweroff/susopend options may not be shown
[03:40] <Slartibartfast> but never use them because the issues
[03:41] <rick_> I only have: "Logout", "Lock", "Switch Users", "Shutdown", and "Restart"
[03:42] <Slartibartfast>  rick_, sorry i don't know why the suspend and hybernate options are now gone from your menu
[03:43] <Slartibartfast> did you use those a lot in windows ?
[03:45] <sille_> d
[03:45] <PodeCoet> rick_: click shutdown, and then hold the shift key, tandby should change to hibernate
[03:45] <rick_> OK, thanks.  Another question:  I have two hard disks in this machine now.  Both windows XP drives.  When i did the install, i told it to partition the first drive. But when i look in Dolphin - I only show one Hard Disk Device (Volumn)
[03:46] <sille_> stupiid quetion...yes... how to set default nickname in Konversation??
[03:47] <PodeCoet> file -> server list -> edit -> edit identity
[03:48] <rick_> but I see folders from my 2nd drive.  Even if I told it to partition the 1st drive - does it consolidate the space on both disks to look like one large drive??
[03:48] <PodeCoet> nope, unless the drives are raided
[03:48] <PodeCoet> looks like you might've targetted the wrong drive
[03:49] <sille_> PodeCoet: thx...
[03:50] <PodeCoet> god dammit, I lost my belt!
[03:50] <PodeCoet> oh wait there it is, next to my porn :P
[03:51] <PodeCoet> ...convenient
[03:51] <Luffy-Kun> xD
[03:54] <Rokeit82> I just built a comp and need to install kubuntu 7.10 on it, but have a newer graphics card
[03:54] <Rokeit82> I get an error "no screens available"
[03:55] <Rokeit82> I think it's cuz it doesn't have the nvidia drivers available because it is an old version
[03:55] <Rokeit82> any ideas for a work around?
[03:56] <silleme> whois sille
[03:57] <PodeCoet> silleme: damn dude, someone stole your nick! you guys should totally fight it out :P
[03:57] <rick_> how can i see the properties of a drive (like in windows; total drive size, used space, and avail space)?
[03:57] <silleme> what's the world coming to...
[03:58] <silleme> how to hide partitions in dolphin file manager???
[03:58] <PodeCoet> rick_: rightclick :p
[03:59] <PodeCoet> properties -> device
[03:59] <Luffy-Kun> I use Nvidia driver (adept) for my 9800GT
[03:59] <PodeCoet> Rokeit82: sorry not my area ;\ try posting your xorg.conf to a site like pastebin, and give us the link, that way people can suggest solutions here
[04:00] <Dillizar> umount: /media/cdrom is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[04:00] <Dillizar> how can i ??
[04:00] <silleme> specifically, how to hide non-mounted partitions/drives in dolphin when clicking on teh storage media bookmark...
[04:01]  * PodeCoet runs
[04:01] <yao_ziyuan> i should apologize that i posted qtcurve here
[04:01] <yao_ziyuan> some people warned me against that before, at least twice
[04:03] <silleme> want to hide my windoze non-mounted partitions  in my dual boot system... It would make my saving and organiing files in dolphin a little cleaner and less Konfusing...thx
[04:07] <Luffy-Kun> good night all - 	amis du soir, bonsoir
[04:16] <wesley_> alguem diz algo
[04:35] <pteague> i've changed my video card from an nvidia 8600gts to an nvidia 9600gt ...  i had to remove nvidia-glx-new & nvidia-settings in order to get X to come up at all...  now i'm finally logged into kde & i was hoping to get it to automatically detect the nvidia card & give me the proprietary drivers popup, but it hasn't yet
[04:47] <lucas_> hi. do i have to change my sources.list every time a kubuntu version is stable or there is a symlink that now links to intrepid and later changes to others?
[04:49] <jeremie> hi
[04:50] <dtchen_> lucas_: if you don't use an updater program, you'll have to manage the sources.list manually
[04:50] <lucas_> dtchen_: i use adept
[04:51] <lucas_> dtchen_: will it update my sources.list?
[04:51] <quassel132> I need some css/html help
[04:52] <chad> if anyone wants to help me make some changes to get this to look good there's a little clipping issue when you resize the window
[04:52] <chad> http://lavacano.googlepages.com/chads-computers.zip
[04:52] <dtchen_> lucas_: i don't believe so; just use do-release-upgrade
[04:53] <lucas_> dtchen_: is that a script? sorry i'm new to kubuntu
[04:54] <jeremie> can anyone help me i have ubuntu 8.10 and wene i try to play a vdvd
[04:54] <jeremie> a dvd thotem crashes
[04:54] <dtchen_> lucas_: it's a tool installed as part of update-manager-core
[04:54] <lucas_> dtchen_: yes i just searched for it.. it seems to be a command.
[04:55] <lucas_> dtchen_: thanks
[04:57] <jeremie> please help me :'-(
[04:58] <dtchen_> jeremie: does "thotem" -> "totem"
[04:58] <lucas_> jeremie: wrong channel. try #ubuntu
[04:58] <dtchen_> jeremie: if so, i recommend you install totem-xine, and make sure libdvdcss2 and other packages are used. you may want to use medibuntu.
[04:59] <jeremie> ok how tu i connect to #ubuntu
[04:59] <dtchen_> /join #ubuntu
[05:00] <jeremie> ok bye
[05:00] <lucas_> bye
[05:00] <lucas_> :p
[05:02] <Paco_Paco> Can someone help me please i am getting a critical error: "Klauncher could not be reached via D-Bus when calling start_service_by desktop_path:empty" ?
[05:02] <Paco_Paco> whenever i click ok it logs me off
[05:02] <Paco_Paco> i am new to Kubuntu so i have no idea how to fix it
[05:15] <steve__> sup all
[05:22] <jorge_> saludos
[05:22] <jorge_> soy novatoooo
[05:22] <jorge_> y ando perdido total
[05:22] <jorge_> no se ni lo q hagooo!!!
[05:23] <Slartibartfast> !language
[05:23] <Paco_Paco> i am new to Kubuntu so i have no idea how to fix it
[05:23] <Slartibartfast> :-)
[05:23] <Paco_Paco> Can someone help me please i am getting a critical error: "Klauncher could not be reached via D-Bus when calling start_service_by desktop_path:empty" ?
[05:24] <Paco_Paco> Slartibartfast, can you help me please
[05:25] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco, sorry not really know what this error caused ... do you have any other problems because this error?
[05:25] <Paco_Paco> i just installed kubuntu
[05:25] <Paco_Paco> nope
[05:26] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco, instaleld 8.10?
[05:27] <Paco_Paco> yes
[05:28] <Slartibartfast> did some googling, and see there is already a bug report about this ..... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde4/+bug/204728
[05:28] <Paco_Paco> Slartibartfast no fix?
[05:29] <Slartibartfast> maybe the solution of Oliver Jensen in that bug report will help your case
[05:29] <Paco_Paco> i found a fix via googling but i am unable to implement it
[05:29] <Slartibartfast> same "fix" ?
[05:29] <Paco_Paco> ok ty i will have a peek
[05:30] <Paco_Paco> same fix as the one i found via google it will keep saying system updating in an endless loop
[05:31] <Slartibartfast> Mmmm ... so you did not get the errro by opening a text file
[05:31] <Paco_Paco> yes i did
[05:31] <Paco_Paco> for some reason kate starts with a command whenever i log in
[05:32] <Paco_Paco> and i have no idea how to remove this from starting up
[05:33] <Paco_Paco> hmz the error seems to be gone now
[05:33] <Slartibartfast> OK :-)
[05:34] <Slartibartfast> but you are sure there is nothing in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[05:34] <Slartibartfast> can see in a terminal
[05:34] <Slartibartfast> konsole
[05:34] <Paco_Paco> oh ok
[05:34] <Paco_Paco> i am new to all this linux will look at it later
[05:34] <Slartibartfast> OK
[05:36] <Paco_Paco> thanks for the help
[05:36] <seawing>  hello, I have been using kubuntu for many years, but one thing that I have never figured out is why some packages that I download do not show um in the k menu.  can someone please explain?
[05:36] <Slartibartfast> ls ~/.kde/Autostart/ .... lists all files (if any) in the dir Autostart in the hiddine dir .kde) in the home dir (~/)
[05:36] <seawing> For example I just downloaded Jabber, but don't know how to open it.
[05:36] <Paco_Paco> i am running it in  vmware until i get comfortable enough to run it from boot
[05:36] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: OK ...
[05:37] <psilocybin> hello
[05:37] <Paco_Paco> so can i still ask questions here even though i am running it in vmware?
[05:37] <psilocybin> i have a question about gOS can some one help me?
[05:37] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: i think so .... but i think not many can help with hardware specific things .. :-)
[05:38] <Paco_Paco> ok i understand
[05:38] <psilocybin> can some one help me with gOS?
[05:38] <Slartibartfast> and although it works ....... it can sometimes cause problems which are not present in a native installation
[05:39] <Paco_Paco> yeah but i have a snapshot system
[05:39] <Paco_Paco> which a native installation doesnt have
[05:39] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: btw you also can try Virtualbox .....
[05:39] <Paco_Paco> so i get to do stupid things :)
[05:40] <Paco_Paco> yeah i know
[05:40] <Paco_Paco> i like vmare a little more though
[05:40] <Slartibartfast> OK ;-)
[05:41] <Paco_Paco> Does virtual box have a snapshot system also btw?
[05:42] <Slartibartfast> Yes
[05:42] <silleme> pls assist... I would like to hide non-mounted drives (windoze and other  partitions) on my dual boot system...  Woudl like the non-mounted hidden in dolphin file manager. Can anyone assit with this issue?
[05:42] <Paco_Paco> oh ok
[05:42] <Slartibartfast> and it is free
[05:42] <Slartibartfast> and also works on linux ....
[05:42] <Paco_Paco> oh ok nice
[05:42] <inanimate> So, is anybody else having trouble installing kdeplasma-addons? (In order to get extra plasma widgets.)
[05:42] <Slartibartfast> so i can virtualize winxp too
[05:43] <inanimate> I originally had it, then somehow it got uninstalled, and now I'm getting this when attempting to re-install it.
[05:43] <inanimate> http://pastebin.com/d556e75dc
[05:43] <Paco_Paco> Slartibartfast yeah i did that once on a native linux
[05:43] <Paco_Paco> only resources are a little too high for my liking
[05:44] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: i have here a C2D E6600 + 2GB ... so not really a problem here ... winxp still runs nicely inside, although i rarely use it :-)
[05:45] <Paco_Paco> yeah
[05:45] <Paco_Paco> i run on a single core
[05:45] <Slartibartfast> OK
[05:45] <Paco_Paco> if i had a double core i wouldnt mind either :)
[05:46] <Slartibartfast> But to my knowledge: virtualbox is quiet nice in virtualizing things
[05:47] <Slartibartfast> and on linux i not have the same problems in compiling the kernel module like i have with vmware
[05:47] <yao_ziyuan> !cls
[05:47] <yao_ziyuan> what is cls in linux?
[05:47] <yao_ziyuan> clear.
[05:50] <Paco_Paco> yeah Slartibartfast i have to compile that again after each kernel update
[05:51] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco with virtualbox i can just add a repostory in linux .... when there is then a new version i will get the update when i upgrade my system
[05:53] <Slartibartfast> See http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[05:54] <Slartibartfast> with the upgrade of virtualbox there compiling of a new kernel module gets done automatically
[05:54] <Slartibartfast> s/there/the/
[05:58] <stick_jockey> Hello, i have installed kde 4.2 from the backports and i love it, the only problem is that the widgets do not stay in one place when i move them in the desktop, they slither back to the  left hand corner when i finish moving them,  is there a option to prevent it from auto moving them like this
[06:00] <j2> Hello
[06:00] <j2> anyone awake now?
[06:01] <j2> Is there a way to do alt+ctrl+bkspc from the command line?
[06:02] <inanimate> killall X?
[06:02] <j2> Hmm
[06:02] <j2> I tried that
[06:02] <inanimate> killall -s 9 X?
[06:02] <j2> X died but I still cannot login
[06:03] <inanimate> startx afterward to respawn it.
[06:03] <Slartibartfast> killall Xorg
[06:03] <j2> The screen is frozen with the last image that X had
[06:03] <j2> Slartibartfast: it would be X
[06:04] <Slartibartfast> X: no process killed
[06:04] <Paco_Paco> Slartibartfast, can i install xfce on kubuntu?
[06:04] <inanimate> If you run top, what state is X in?
[06:04] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco Yes
[06:04] <Paco_Paco> apt-get install xfce <-- like that?
[06:04] <j2> it is taking up 99% of the CPU
[06:04] <inanimate> Is it in D?
[06:05] <j2> Paco_Paco: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:05] <Slartibartfast> eeeeh ... maybe betetr the whole xubuntu desktop
[06:05] <j2> inanimate: In D ?
[06:06] <inanimate> j2: Under "S", what does it say?
[06:06] <j2> R
[06:06] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:06] <j2> If I try to do anything like /etc/init.d/kdm stop X is taking up so much CPU it can:t respond
[06:06] <inanimate> Hmm...
[06:07] <Paco_Paco> j2 ty
[06:07] <Slartibartfast> j2 and you can't kill it with top?
[06:07] <j2> Nope
[06:07] <j2> Screw it
[06:07] <j2> I:ll just power off the machine
[06:07] <inanimate> Get the PID, and run sudo kill -s 9 PID just to make sure.
[06:08] <j2> inanimate: I did
[06:08] <inanimate> If it's in state R, it *should* die.
[06:08] <Paco_Paco> and ty Slartibartfast
[06:08] <j2> brb
[06:08] <Slartibartfast> no problem Paco_Paco
[06:09] <inanimate> I wonder why some processes are so ill-behaved. It's like their mother never taught them any manners...
[06:09] <Paco_Paco> what should i pick gdm or kdm?
[06:09] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: anything you like ..... they both work well i think
[06:09] <Paco_Paco> which is recommend?
[06:09] <Paco_Paco> recommended*
[06:09] <inanimate> Here in the Kubuntu channel, KDM is the popular one...
[06:10] <Paco_Paco> kdm uses less resources?
[06:10] <Slartibartfast> gdm is the gnome desktop manager ...
[06:10] <Paco_Paco> ok i used kdm :)
[06:10]  * inanimate adds a tally to the wall...
[06:12] <jessie> yes. and, in my opinion, kdm is a little more customizable
[06:14] <john_> !dvd
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Ok I'm back
[06:16] <DaSkreech> I hate X
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Like irrationally
[06:16] <DaSkreech> hi gnomefreak
[06:17] <Paco_Paco> DaSkreech so were you ever saved by the bell?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> What can I say
[06:17] <DaSkreech>  For whom the bell tolls...
[06:17] <Paco_Paco> sweet
[06:21] <gnomefreak> hi DaSkreech
[06:24] <john_> !cd
[06:24] <john_> DaSkreech: I'm still having the same issues on the desktop with the internet connection and the freezing. Oh well, all in due time.
[06:25] <john_> How do I get an audio CD to play?
[06:25] <jessie> john_: use kcd or amarok
[06:25] <john_> jessie: It doesn't recognize the CD in the drive
[06:26] <jessie> john_: does it recognize other cd's?
[06:26] <john_> It will play in a CD player, but not on the desktop. The drive will also pick up on the DVDs, but not a single CD which has been trialed.
[06:26] <Paco_Paco> Does kubuntu have samba shares?
[06:27] <jessie> john_: hm..... so if you put a cd such as microsoft office, etc. in the drive, does it find that?
[06:27] <john_> good question, let me see.
[06:28] <john_> Yes. It sees my MS Office 2k3 cd
[06:28] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: if you install samba , yes
[06:30] <john_> jessie: What would cause data cd to read but not audio CD?
[06:30] <Paco_Paco> sudo apt-get install samba ?
[06:30] <jschall> does the current version of konqueror support using mouse button4/button5 for forward/back? (not looking for an xvkbd solution)
[06:30] <jessie> john_: umm... i don't know. no proper programs installed?
[06:30] <john_> jessie: It's all installed. I don't know what else to add.
[06:31] <thunderstruck> nick gnomefreak
[06:31] <john_> Amarok, minirok, kcd.. what else?
[06:31] <jessie> john_: umm.... i don't know. that's a hard thing to say
[06:31] <john_> OK. Thanks for the help, jessie
[06:32] <jessie> Yup, sure thing john_. Use google now. ;)
[06:32] <john_> I have been using google to no avail :(
[06:32] <DaSkreech> john_: does audiocd:/ in konqueror show anything ?
[06:32] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco yes
[06:32] <DaSkreech> inanimate: Yeah  sucks
[06:33] <DaSkreech> inanimate:X
[06:33] <inanimate> Yeah... You know it...
[06:33] <Paco_Paco> Slartibartfast so how do i samba share a folder after i have installed samba?
[06:33] <john_> DaSkreech: Nope. Nothing.
[06:33] <inanimate> Although multi-monitor actually almost works well now.
[06:34] <inanimate> With xrandr + KDE's nice config.
[06:34] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: by editing /etc/samba/smb.conf ..... it is a well documented conf file
[06:34] <Paco_Paco> so i cant right click a folder and choose for sharing options like in gnome?
[06:34] <Paco_Paco> :/
[06:34] <inanimate> Paco_Paco: Actually, you used to be able to...
[06:34] <Slartibartfast> after editing .... sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:35] <Slartibartfast> not that i know of Paco_Paco
[06:36] <inanimate> Paco_Paco: Right click folder > Share
[06:36] <Paco_Paco> yeah
[06:36] <DaSkreech> john_: That's kinda strange
[06:37] <inanimate> Although I'm not sure if you can actually "Configure file sharing..."
[06:37] <inanimate> I clicked on it but nothing has happened yet...
[06:38] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: right click folder > properties > share ?
[06:38] <john_> DaSkreech: I cannot mount it either. 'block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only. You must specify the filesystem type'
[06:38] <inanimate> It's possible that file sharing needs to be re-implemented in KDE 4. (It was definitely there in KDE 3). Can I get a confirmation on that?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Well I can't think of how you would mount an audiocd
[06:39] <john_> Good point
[06:39] <BentFranklin> Is there a log file for apt or adept where I can see what has all been done lately?
[06:40] <pteague_laptop> BentFranklin: not sure about adept, but aptitude has a log file under /var/log/
[06:40] <inanimate> BentFranklin: /var/log/apt/term.log
[06:40] <inanimate> That is the apt log.
[06:40] <inanimate> Which every frontend uses.
[06:41] <DaSkreech> john_: ok just put in an audio cd and audiocd:/ works fine in Konqueror for me
[06:42] <BentFranklin> thansk
[06:42] <john_> !worksforme
[06:43] <john_> DaSkreech: :p
[06:43] <DaSkreech> john_: It did make Konqueror bug out though
[06:44] <john_> failed here :(
[06:44] <inanimate> Paco_Paco: If you install kdenetwork-filesharing, you're good to go.
[06:45] <john_> DaSkreech: I'm cutting out. Too many kubuntu issues for the past 3 weeks. I'll be back on Thursday for more resolutions
[06:46] <john_> G'night all
[06:46] <DaSkreech> NIght
[06:51] <pteague_laptop> which of the ssh-askpass packages is suggested for kde?
[06:52] <Paco_Paco> is there a gui for samba?
[06:52] <Paco_Paco> i have no idea what to do with smb.conf
[06:52] <BentFranklin> This afternoon I installed a couple of games using Adept.  Of course I forgot their exact names, and they don't show up in the K start menu, and the apt logs don't log adept actions apparently.
[06:54] <BentFranklin> Paco - read the samba manual...  One sec I'll find it.
[06:54] <Paco_Paco> k ty BentFranklin
[06:55] <DaSkreech> BentFranklin: They do
[06:57] <BentFranklin> DaSkreech:  My term.log 's last entry is Feb 2 and I installed 142 updates and 2 new packages today
[06:57] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: ..... smb.conf is ordered in several sections ....
[06:57] <DaSkreech> BentFranklin: dpkg.log
[06:58] <BentFranklin> that's the ticket, thanks
[06:58] <BentFranklin> Paco:  still looking
[06:58] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: for the shares you need to make some addictions in the #[06:59] <BentFranklin> http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[06:59] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco if you want to see the server in windows .. you need to be in the same workgroup ... thats defined in the global section at the top
[07:00] <BentFranklin> That doc tells you how to see Linux shares using Windows.  To see Windows shares with Linux use mount.cifs
[07:00] <BentFranklin> Once you get mount.cifs working manually, put an entry in /etc/fstab
[07:09] <Paco_Paco> k ty BentFranklin and Slartibartfast
[07:09] <Paco_Paco> how do i open smb.conf with write permission?
[07:10] <Slartibartfast> use sudo
[07:10] <BentFranklin> you could sudo chmod it or sudo your editor
[07:10] <Slartibartfast> don't know which editor you use
[07:10] <Paco_Paco> kate
[07:11] <BentFranklin> In a couple of months, check out emacs
[07:11] <Paco_Paco> so how do i do both open kate with write permission and open smb.conf via the commandline?
[07:13] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco use kdesudo kate
[07:13] <Slartibartfast> open file ...
[07:15] <Paco_Paco> ok ty
[07:17] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: if in console you can also try nano ..... "sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[07:21] <Paco_Paco> ok thanks :)
[07:40] <Paco_Paco> how do i launch the widgets from the commandline?
[07:45] <Slartibartfast> Paco_Paco: widgets for on the desktop? . like the plasmoids ?
[07:47] <pteague_laptop> i'm thinking i need to clean out my grub menu.lst ... lots of kernel entries ;)
[07:48] <Slartibartfast> pteague_laptop: ddi you also already delete the old kernels ?
[07:48] <Slartibartfast> s/ddi/did/
[07:49] <Slartibartfast> because this will probably already get rid of the old kernel entries in the menu.lst
[07:49] <anil__> hi...is there a way to restore the app switcher(taskber) settings to defaults in kde 4
[07:50] <maco> anil__: the whole panel or just the task manager part?
[07:50] <anil__> the entire panel
[07:51] <maco> um well i can tell you how to force all your plasma stuff to go back to default at once
[07:52] <anil__> ok...guess that works
[07:52] <DaSkreech> anil__: the defaults when KDE4 came?
[07:52] <maco> if you login in a terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) and delete ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc then log back into kde, itll regenerate it as the defaults
[07:53] <anil__> should i terminate the x server to do this??
[07:54] <pteague_laptop> Slartibartfast: not sure, i need to go through the list of them to see... some may already be removed & then there's the 32-bit kernel that i'm not using anymore on a diff partition
[07:56] <Slartibartfast> pteague_laptop: you can check with "dpkg -l linux*" . or just "ls -l /boot/"
[08:03] <pteague_laptop> Slartibartfast: nope, haven't removed them yet...  do i need to remove the associated linux-headers package or the linux-image ?
[08:04] <Slartibartfast> the image is the kernel ... which you see in /boot/
[08:05] <Slartibartfast> so if you do sudo apt-get --purge linux-image-xxx linux-header-xxx ...... etc ... i think your new generated menu.lst will have much lesser entries
[08:09] <tarpedo> hello!!!
[08:17] <Ac1d-8uRn> what up peeps
[08:20] <silleme> not familiar with linux compression utilities... what util for unrar an archived file???
[08:20] <Slartibartfast> unrar x archive.rar
[08:20] <Slartibartfast> or use ark
[08:22] <Slartibartfast> silleme maybe you need to install unrar first
[08:22] <LinkCanabico> hi the kmenu in my user acount has no Home (personal files) icon. in the root acount everything is ok any idea how to enable it ? i know it sounds silly but im realy used to it and i would like to enable it (not add it manualy since then it tends to move to the alfabeticaly right place when i update)
[08:23] <silleme> Slartibartfast: have ARK installed but gives error mssg utility unrar is not in your path.... maybe should instal unrar?
[08:24] <Slartibartfast> yes
[08:24] <Slartibartfast> but don't know if you have the right repostory enabled
[08:25] <Slartibartfast> it is in the Section: multiverse/utils
[08:25] <pteague_laptop> i really don't like the fact that the default ctrl+pgup ctrl+pgdn in konsole is counter-intuitive
[08:26] <Slartibartfast> instead   use shift :-) if you want to do pgup
[08:28] <Slartibartfast> here ctrl pgup goes from tab1 to tab2 to tab3 .... etc ... sounds ok to me
[08:28] <pteague_laptop> i just have to remember to set the alternative for 1 to none before changing them
[08:29] <Slartibartfast> pteague_laptop: what alternative ?
[08:29] <pteague_laptop> yeah & that's counter what every other program *i've used* that uses ctrl+pgup/pgdn for switching tabs uses
[08:30] <pteague_laptop> the keyboard shortcut alternative...  the default is shift+left/right, the alternative is the ctrl+pgup/pgdown
[08:30] <Slartibartfast> i see .... firefox does do it just the otherway arround
[08:30] <wartalker> someone know how to support chinese input in firefox
[08:31] <pteague_laptop> Slartibartfast: hehe, that's my point :)
[08:31] <Slartibartfast> pteague_laptop: in konversation i need to use alt right or left between the tabs
[08:31] <pteague_laptop> it's just a default & can be changed...  but to somebody who barely knows they use windows switches to linux...
[08:32] <pteague_laptop> i use xchat & again it's ctrl+pgup/pgdown
[08:33] <pteague_laptop> then again... if a person barely knows they're using windows switches to linux... i'm guessing they really don't have a clue what the keyboard shortcut is anyways <.<
[08:33] <Slartibartfast> hmmm .... but it's not really a big deal for me
[08:33] <Slartibartfast> many keyboard shortcuts people only learn after having use a program for several time
[08:34] <Slartibartfast> wartalker: need to install scim
[08:35] <Slartibartfast> and a bunch of other packages .... not really know which will do the trick .... but at least also im-switch
[08:35] <wartalker> i install scim, it doen not work in firefox
[08:35] <pteague_laptop> that's why i tend to try to make keyboard shortcuts as consistent as possible across apps... everybody *should* at least know ctrl+x/c/v & shift+del/ins
[08:35] <Slartibartfast> wartalker: but work in other programs ?
[08:37] <pteague_laptop> doesn't firefox have locale packages?
[08:37] <Slartibartfast> they have but not needed to input chinese ...... only to display chinese in the menu's
[08:38] <pteague_laptop> wow, i think i'm going to have to use my new game box dual-boot to get used to the new kde
[08:38] <Slartibartfast> kde 4.1 or kde 4.2 ?
[08:39] <pteague_laptop> i still have hardy on my desktop
[08:39] <pteague_laptop> so guess i'm using kde3 still
[08:40] <Slartibartfast> aha ... ok ... me testing with alpha software :-) from jaunty
[08:40] <Slartibartfast> kde 4.2
[08:40] <Slartibartfast> did see a new kde 4.2.1 will soon come out
[08:43] <pteague_laptop> geeze... is it really so hard to alphabetize menu entries? oh, i know kde likes alphabetizing based off the description & not the name, but geeze... when i'm looking for something starting with z i look at the bottom
[08:49] <pteague_laptop> is there anyway to get the bottom panel to go to the top?
[08:49] <pteague_laptop> or do i have to create a new top panel & then recreate everything on it?
[08:51] <Slartibartfast> pteague_laptop in kde 4 ?
[08:53] <Slartibartfast> in kde 3 you can configure desktop and choose there where the kicker panel should be placed
[08:56] <pteague_laptop> kde3 i'm pretty used to...  i'm messing around with intrepid on my lan party box & have yet to touch kde4 until today
[08:56] <pteague_laptop> i figured out i have to go into panel properties before being able to drag the panel somewhere
[08:56] <pteague_laptop> is there something similar to quick launch in kde4 or do i have to use the bloody kmenu for it?
[08:57] <Slartibartfast> in kde 4 you can press the "thing" at the most right pf the panel and you can configure the panel like draging it to the top ....
[08:58] <BentFranklin> What does shift+del/ins do?
[08:58] <Slartibartfast> pteague_laptop: there is also a quicklaunch applet/plasmoid
[08:59] <Slartibartfast> BentFranklin: guess that is app specific ....
[09:04] <pteague_laptop> on windows at least, shift+del is cut & shift+ins is paste...  & they typically work even when ctrl+x/c/v is specifically disabled
[09:05] <pteague_laptop> & it seems to work in some standard text boxes in linux guis
[09:05] <pteague_laptop> what's the quicklaunch plasmoid in kde4? or do i need to install an extra package to get it?
[09:07] <Slartibartfast> just testing with kate ..... and there shft del indeed cuts and shft ins pastes
[09:08] <Slartibartfast> just tested this quick lanch applet ..... but here in Jaunty it did not rellly work great :-)
[09:08] <Slartibartfast> i would say pretty bad, th icons just don't scale very well
[09:09] <Slartibartfast> but you always can add programs from your applications tab in your new kmenu to the favorites tab
[09:09] <pteague_laptop> i really don't care how they look... i just want a launcher for simple 1 click launching of apps i use all the time
[09:11] <Slartibartfast> also: on the desktop you can add the folder view applet and add application.desktop files from /usr/share/applications ...... or add the lancelot plasmoid .. but yes .. then need to click 2 times again .... it keeps problematic
[09:12] <pteague_laptop> is there a way to disable things from the konsole right click menu?  i want to turn off or assign close tab a different hot key
[09:14] <pteague_laptop> so lancelot is kinda iffy? or is it just an issue with looks?
[09:15] <Slartibartfast> no lancelot works ok here ..... but it is jus an different kind of kmenu ...... whichs will open when you click on it
[09:15] <Slartibartfast> it's an icon of the holy grail on your desktop :-)
[09:15] <Slartibartfast> quicklaunch looks bad here
[09:26] <besitzer_> hallo,enybody out there?
[09:27] <pteague_laptop> i love having to enter a password just to see what packages need to be updated...
[09:28] <besitzer_> hi ibuffy, hows the morning?
[09:28] <ibuffy> hi besitzer, heh. it is indeed morning, 3:28am
[09:29] <ibuffy> a little frustrating
[09:29] <besitzer_> by us is now 10,30
[09:29] <ibuffy> working on getting my netgear WGR614L open source wireless router working
[09:30] <ibuffy> called netgear and they aren't willing to help me get it working, it's the first time i've ever received a printed copy of the gpl license and the company doesn't support linux!
[09:30] <besitzer_> i also got problems with loading my e mails from yahoo
[09:30] <ibuffy> on the box "open-source router for Linux developers and open-source experts."
[09:30] <ibuffy> so misleading
[09:30] <ibuffy> anyway
[09:31] <ibuffy> gots to go work on it some more
[09:32] <besitzer_> do you know the german word for it?
[09:32] <heinkel_111> Hi, after the latest upgrade of a lot of kde stuff including libplasma2 I have the following serious problem: on login, plasma fails, produces no useable backtrace, and leaves me without a desktop that works. KDE is effectively broken, except for the screensaver!
[09:33] <Dillizar> i dont have sound when i play for ex amarok say that my sound card i busy
[09:33] <heinkel_111> anyone else heard about simialr stuff
[09:35] <heinkel_111> Dillzar> what sound system are you using? alsa or oss?
[09:35] <heinkel_111> alsa is standard with kubuntu 8.10 afaik
[09:36] <besitzer_> i have to go we hear us later
[09:36] <jschall> i'm trying to get flash working in konqueror, on 64bit kubuntu. so far i installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and scanned for plugins in konqueror's plugin config, it found flash, but flash objects aren't really showing up. so, for example, youtube videos are solid black.
[09:36] <Dillizar> heinkel_111, alsa
[09:38] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: ok, if you had been using oss that is not particularily good when multiple programs are trying to use your sound device simultaneously. This does not appear to be your problem (unfortunately, it does not soleve it, either :-(
[09:39] <Dillizar> hmm
[09:39] <Dillizar> how can i check what i am using ??
[09:40] <heinkel_111> Dillzar: does aplay -l (in konsole) list your soundcard?
[09:41] <Dillizar> yes
[09:41] <Dillizar> wanna see the output
[09:41] <jschall> konqueror seems to load the flash player, but the flash player doesn't seem to work in konqueror...
[09:41] <jschall> any fix?
[09:42] <jschall> other than firefox?
[09:42] <Dillizar> opera :)
[09:42] <Dillizar> safari
[09:42] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: are you able to play sounds with another program? I often test using alsaplayer
[09:43] <heinkel_111> if alsaplayer works I think it is a xine related problem
[09:43] <heinkel_111> I am not good with xine
[09:44] <Dillizar> no i cant heinkel_111 and the sturt up music its jammed in the middle :D
[09:44] <Paco_Paco> linux is just like windows only harder to use
[09:44] <Paco_Paco> :(
[09:44] <jschall> Paco_Paco: no.
[09:44] <Dillizar> nooooooooooooooo
[09:44] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: can you plastebin output from aplay-l ?
[09:44] <Dillizar> can i PM you
[09:44] <Dillizar> with it
[09:45] <Dillizar> :)
[09:46] <heinkel_111> ok if it is not more than a line or 3, if it is longer please paste it here: http://paste.ubuntu.com  and give me a link
[09:46] <jschall> don't want to have to load gtk libraries =/ mozilla needs to release a qt version of ff
[09:47] <jschall> what's kde's gnome-system-monitor?
[09:47] <Dillizar> heinkel_111, http://paste.ubuntu.com/124637/
[09:47] <Dillizar> jschall, its system monitor but form ubuntu :)
[09:48] <jschall> Dillizar: what's the kde equivalent of gnome-system-monitor?
[09:48] <Dillizar> dunno
[09:48] <Dillizar> D:
[09:48] <jschall> Dillizar: i know precisely what gnome-system-monitor is, i just want to know it's equivalent in kde
[09:48] <jschall> w/e, i'll use top
[09:48] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: it looks ok, I will be back in 8 minutes - maybe with some more intelligent stuff
[09:48] <Dillizar> lol
[09:48] <Dillizar> :)
[09:48] <Dillizar> pls do
[09:50] <pteague_laptop> jschall: htop is a nice gui top for cli
[09:56] <inanimate> jschall: ksysguard
[09:56] <inanimate> ^ESC is generally the keycombo to open it.
[09:57] <Tm_T> pteague_laptop: htop is not GUI (:
[09:58] <Guest40633> hi.
[10:00] <kikoncio> hallo there!
[10:00] <Guest40633> some help with ATI privative drivers.
[10:00] <bazhang> !ati
[10:01] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: did you try the following in konsole yet: "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" ?
[10:01] <Dillizar> lol
[10:01] <Dillizar> :D
[10:01] <Dillizar> lemme check
[10:01] <Dillizar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/124641/
[10:01] <Dillizar> i have this for ya
[10:01] <Dillizar> while i do that :P
[10:02] <t_ras> I can't connect to network:
[10:02] <t_ras> I have router without natting (all my comps and router have real IPs). I gave exactly the same settings it had 30 minutes before reinstalling, which were working, I gave them through "new connection" and I get in syslog:
[10:02] <t_ras> wait_for_conection_expired...connection failed to activate (timeout): (0) Connection was not provided by any settings service
[10:02] <t_ras> adpater through dashboard says "Disconnected"
[10:02] <t_ras> Any ideas?
[10:02] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: after the alsa-utils restart, you will also have to restart amarok
[10:03] <Dillizar> k
[10:03] <Guest40633> Please.
[10:03] <Guest40633> cant let me select it.
[10:03] <Dillizar> still nada
[10:05] <t_ras> ?
[10:05] <Dillizar> did the pastbim helped :)
[10:06] <Guest40633> join #ubuntu
[10:07] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: the second one? I don't understand how you produced it - what is it the output from?
[10:08] <Dillizar> from auto test form alsa
[10:08] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: can you post output of "more /proc/asound/cards"
[10:08] <t_ras> http://paste.ubuntu.com/124643/
[10:08] <t_ras> please help
[10:10] <Dillizar> heinkel_111, how it was
[10:10] <Dillizar> sudo smt
[10:11] <serenity> hi
[10:11] <serenity> a user asked me, why he can't update via the experimental repo. What happened?
[10:11] <t_ras> ?
[10:11] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[10:11] <Guest40633> some help with ATI privative drivers.
[10:11] <heinkel_111> if that was the question
[10:12] <Dillizar> lol
[10:12] <Dillizar> no
[10:12] <Dillizar> so i can get the /proc/asound/cards
[10:12] <Dillizar> smt like getit
[10:15] <t_ras> Will it make a difference if I try ubuntu instead of kubuntu? ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/124643/ )
[10:15] <serenity> ahh, there is no more exper. repo, just enable backports
[10:15] <Laeborg> Hi. I have a USB Microphone, named USB Microphone in KMix. I want to use this microphone in IDJC, and I can see my currently microphone (one in my monitor) is named alsa_pcm:capture_1 in IDCJ, how can I see what to type for use my USB microphone?
[10:16] <Dillizar> heinkel_111, sorry for the delay
[10:16] <Dillizar>  0 [ICH5           ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH5
[10:16] <Dillizar>                       Intel ICH5 with CMI9761A+ at irq 21
[10:16] <heinkel_111> Dillizar I am sorry my bad I meant cat /proc/asound/modules
[10:17] <Dillizar>  0 snd_intel8x0
[10:17] <t_ras> Will it make a difference if I try ubuntu instead of kubuntu? ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/124643/ )
[10:18] <heinkel_111> I can't see much except that can't connect to stream message you pasted earlier, Dillizar - what command did you issue to get that?
[10:18] <Dillizar> what
[10:19] <alberto__> Una mano Paaaaaaaaaayos!!!
[10:19] <Dillizar> second pastbin
[10:20] <heinkel_111> yes, I want to try this on my computer too
[10:20] <heinkel_111> Dillizar> to compare the output
[10:20] <heinkel_111> 1
[10:20] <heinkel_111>   audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[10:20] <t_ras> Si alberto, no se mucho pero puedo tratar,
[10:20] <t_ras> poray nesesitas un canal en espaniol
[10:20] <bazhang> !es
[10:21] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: I don't know this test
[10:21] <Cueball> t_ras: right click the network manager. Select new connection. Then the device you use.
[10:21] <Dillizar> from sound preferences sound playback test
[10:21] <alberto__> hi t_ras.
[10:21] <alberto__> no prob.
[10:22] <alberto__> well.
[10:22] <dwarder> what software should i yse to check hdd after it was dropped
[10:22] <dwarder> *use
[10:22] <alberto__> so, cant activate the privative controls for my ATI card
[10:22] <t_ras> Cuebal - I did -all configured properly (I think) and it still says the same.
[10:23] <alberto__> didn't let me choose it
[10:23] <t_ras> Alberto: sorry, I don't know much about drivers
[10:24] <alberto__> Thanks any ¡way t:ras.
[10:24] <alberto__> oh, t-ras.
[10:24] <alberto__> any kubuntu channel in spanish anyway?channel
[10:25] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: are you using GNOME desktop environment in any way?
[10:25] <t_ras> #ubuntu-es
[10:25] <alberto__> ok doc.
[10:25] <Dillizar> yes heinkel_111
[10:25] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: I don't think I have that functionality in the system settings panel
[10:25] <t_ras> Alberto: #ubuntu-es
[10:25] <alberto__> see you.
[10:25] <t_ras> sadasd
[10:26] <t_ras> asd
[10:26] <wartalker> firefox how to support scim
[10:26] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: that explains a lot, but leaves me a little clueless - I use KDE
[10:26] <t_ras> asdasdads
[10:26] <Dillizar> k
[10:26] <Dillizar> i will reinstall the gstreamers and restart
[10:26] <Dillizar> :)
[10:26] <Dillizar> cheers
[10:27] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: in amarok, what engine are you using?
[10:27] <Dillizar> xine
[10:27] <heinkel_111> hmmm
[10:27] <Dillizar> brb
[10:29] <t_ras> http://paste.ubuntu.com/124643/
[10:35] <heinkel_111> is kde 4.2 in ubuntu 8.10 by the latest update?
[10:35] <heinkel_111> I am having issues on my workstation with plasma crashing on login --> absolutely useless kde desktop
[10:36] <Mamarok> heinkel_111: if you have the repos activated, yes
[10:36] <Mamarok> since several weeks
[10:36] <heinkel_111> I think this happened after the latest update of libplasma2 yesterday or so
[10:36] <heinkel_111> Mamarok: I don't have backports enabled
[10:36] <Mamarok> well, then you really should update to 4.2
[10:37] <Mamarok> hm, you have to if you want 4.2 though
[10:38] <heinkel_111> Mamarok: my first priority is a stable system, like one with a desktop environment that works. Right now because plasma crashes on every login, I don't have that
[10:38] <heinkel_111> Mamarok: I need to find a fix for plasma :-(
[10:38] <heinkel_111> there is a segfault involved
[10:38]  * Dillizar will start to cry :'(
[10:40] <Mamarok> heinkel_111: 4.2 is by far more stable than 4.1.4, but your choice
[10:41] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: still no sound? or no sound from amarok only?
[10:41] <Dillizar> from nothing
[10:44] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: I recommend you ask for help in #ubuntu, as it appears some of your problems may be related to GNOME
[10:44] <Dillizar> i am but rine
[10:44] <Dillizar> rien*
[10:44] <Dillizar> i am asking #alsa now :P
[10:45] <heinkel_111> Dillizar: please also check these links https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[10:46] <heinkel_111> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[10:46] <pteague_laptop> what's a good app for making videos?
[10:47] <mefisto__> making videos from what?
[10:47] <Dillizar> lemme see need restart
[10:48] <pteague_laptop> converting the input from a camcorder into something viewable on the computer... i think my mom normally uses nero on windows, but she recently mentioned something about switching to linux
[10:49] <mefisto__> pteague_laptop: kino, kdenlive, maybe avidemux for simple things
[10:51] <pteague_laptop> now i think i just need to figure out what she's using for video capture & see if that will work under linux
[11:02] <jschall> ok, smooth scrolling in konqueror is driving me nuts. how do i turn it off?
[11:08] <jschall> i don't understand why anyone likes "smooth" scrolling, things feel so much snappier without it, even on really fast systems.
[11:09] <jschall> i can understand an option for it, i can't really understand having it on by default, but not being able to get rid of it at all is just dumb.
[11:23] <RurouniJones> Does anyone know why ssh -D isn't setting up a basic socks proxy but is logging in as normal?
[11:42] <shadeslayer> quiet here
[11:42] <shadeslayer> :)
[11:42] <shadeslayer> yayy nobody needs support
[11:42] <shadeslayer> ><
[11:46] <heinkel_111> I need some help, problem described here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3102027.0
[11:47] <pteague_laptop> are there any kde4 versions of kpdf or kregexpeditor ?
[11:48] <mefisto__> pteague_laptop: I think okular is meant to replace kpdf in kde4
[11:49] <ubuntu_> hi
[11:49] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: why don't you upgrade to kde 4.2 ? That would probably fix it
[11:50] <ubuntu_> can anybody help me with Ubuntu 2.0 Ultimate installation using Wubi ?
[11:50] <pteague_laptop> ah, ok... was going through a list of things to install & was checking via aptitude... hadn't needed to open a pdf yet ;)
[11:51] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: have you tried asking in #ubuntu ?
[11:51] <heinkel_111> mefisto__:  as a matter of principle I don't enable backports as I have seen in past years that I tend to get an increasingly unstable system before the next release
[11:52] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: however in this case it may be justified, to solve a specific problem
[11:53] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: try keeping an eye on the ugrades, if you see anything not kde-related, don't install them
[11:53] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: is there anyway I can just get the kde 4.2 upgrade out of backports, not all the other stuff, and do this without breaking compatibility of all the other programs I have installed?
[11:54] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: if I enable backports and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade I will get a loooong list of stuff to be upgraded
[11:56] <pteague_laptop> kdiff3 is no longer available? :(
[11:57] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: there used to be a ppa of the kde 4.2 upgraded packages, but I don't think it's being maintained any more. the packages (I think) are older versions than what's in backports and may not work properly
[12:01] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: you could try adding this to your sources.list    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[12:01] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: you say that kde 4.2 *probably* will fix the problem, are there any improvements to dual-head displays for plasma in 4.2?
[12:02] <heinkel_111> if there are no particular improvements, it is not likely that the problem is fixed, is it?
[12:03] <mefisto__> I'm not really sure heinkel_111. but I doubt you will find a solution that did not involve upgrading to 4.2 anyway
[12:04] <pteague_laptop> does kompare have 3-way diff?
[12:04] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: I think I'll rather do backports than the experimental ppa, more likely to get the best quality and 9.04 is only 2 months away....if my system stability is affected
[12:06]  * heinkel_111 upgrades, so help him o powers that kde!
[12:17] <heinkel_111> anyone knows why gwenview is held back when updating to kde 4.2 using intrepid-backports repository?
[12:18] <Mamarok> heinkel_111: I think it tries to overwrite an already existing folder
[12:18] <Mamarok> heinkel_111: I usually just override it
[12:19] <shadeslayer> how do i bring up a system monitor??
[12:19] <shadeslayer> displaying CPU usage,RAM usage,etc
[12:20] <pteague_laptop> you want cli or gui?
[12:20] <shadeslayer> gui
[12:20] <shadeslayer> ill be showing it off to show that Linux is lighter
[12:20] <shadeslayer> ><
[12:21] <shadeslayer> pteague_laptop: any idea??
[12:21] <pteague_laptop> i saw something a bit ago...  what are the applets in kde4 called again?
[12:21] <shadeslayer> widgets
[12:21] <pteague_laptop> there we go, plasmoids
[12:22] <shadeslayer> hmm
[12:22] <pteague_laptop> there's a plasmoid-cpuload & a plasmoid-system-status
[12:23] <shadeslayer> cant i club them
[12:23] <pteague_laptop> there's also an xfce4-systemload-plugin, but not sure if that'll work in kde... hmm...
[12:24] <shadeslayer> i have xfce though
[12:24] <shadeslayer> but need it for KDE
[12:24] <shadeslayer> thats the heaviest DE
[12:24] <pteague_laptop> there's also a kcpuload that will at least show cpu load in kde...
[12:24] <shadeslayer> i think this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+System+Monitor?content=86664
[12:25] <pteague_laptop> there's also a loadmeter, but i'm not sure what that looks like
[12:25] <shadeslayer> perfect for me
[12:25] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[12:25] <shadeslayer> god KDE is running slow
[12:25] <pteague_laptop> i tend to go with htop , but that's a cli gui
[12:26] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: I uninstalled gwenview, then reinstalled it. that solved the "held back" problem for me
[12:26] <pteague_laptop> but htop is nice because it updates & shows multiple cpus
[12:28] <garna> hola necesitaria algo de ayuda soy nuevo en esto y el primer problema que tengo me puede tengo una targeta wifi pci ASUS WiFi-AP P5E3 y soy incapaz de instalar los draivers ni si quiera se si existen hay alguna manera de poder instalar la targeta?
[12:28] <shadeslayer> !es | garna
[12:28] <pteague_laptop> shadeslayer: i forgot about probably the best & ultimate system load gui...  gkrellm ;)
[12:28] <shadeslayer> :O
[12:29] <shadeslayer> i have that lol
[12:29] <shadeslayer> but not GUI enough
[12:30] <shadeslayer> how do i installplasmoid?? that
[12:30] <shadeslayer> ^^
[12:30] <shadeslayer> how do i install that plasmoid
[12:30] <pteague_laptop> not sure what plugins (if any) are needed, but you can show the top processes running, cpu, memory, hard drive, network, etc, etc
[12:30] <mefisto__> !pt | garna
[12:30] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:30] <pteague_laptop> aptitude install plasmoid-cpuload ...  & then right click on the panel & add it
[12:30] <shadeslayer> was that portugese??
[12:31] <pteague_laptop> looks like it
[12:31] <shadeslayer> for the link above??
[12:31] <shadeslayer> same plasmoid??
[12:32] <pteague_laptop> if you use aptitude or apt-get just install which ever plasmoid packages you want that way... if you're using synaptic you should be able to search on plasmoid & install that way
[12:33] <shadeslayer> ok
[12:33] <pteague_laptop> that makes it available for use... it's not really a program that you can run from the kmenu, but it displays in 1 of the panels
[12:33] <pteague_laptop> that is if you're running kde4... kde3 has something different than plasmoids i think
[12:34] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:34] <shadeslayer> kde 4.2
[12:34] <shadeslayer> hmm
[12:35] <shadeslayer> cpu load is not the thing
[12:35] <pteague_laptop> plasmoid-system-status then?
[12:36] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: kde 4.2 fixed the plasma problem for me
[12:36] <shadeslayer> no plasmoid
[12:36] <pteague_laptop> what exactly are you trying to show?
[12:36] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: although it is not an improvement over 4.1, it brought back the old status
[12:37] <heinkel_111> one desktop applet for each screen
[12:37] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: old status?
[12:37] <heinkel_111> no stretch desktop across both screens
[12:37] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: ^
[12:38] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: in kde 3.5 the wallpaper could be 3200x1200 extended across both of the screens
[12:40] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: i wish this could be possible in kde 4.x too :(
[12:40] <heinkel_111> but it is a lot better to have a desktop than not to have a desktop
[12:40] <shadeslayer> pteague_laptop: i cannot install http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+System+Monitor?content=86664
[12:41] <shadeslayer> how do i install??
[12:41] <shadeslayer> the instructrions do not suffice
[12:46] <pteague_laptop> shadeslayer: ok, you'll need to use a package manager to install hddtemp & lm_sensors ...  download the plasmoid binary (maybe to your desktop?) from that website & then follow the install instructions
[12:46] <pteague_laptop> geeze... took me a while to figure out how to download that
[12:46] <shadeslayer> ive installed both
[12:46] <shadeslayer> but when i add it i cannot see the binary
[12:47] <shadeslayer> i followed the instructions exactly
[12:47] <pteague_laptop> ah, ok... at that point i believe it just adds it to what you can add to the panel maybe?  & then right click on panel & add widget?
[12:47] <pteague_laptop> hmm...
[12:48] <shadeslayer> no no
[12:48] <shadeslayer> i download the .skg file
[12:48] <shadeslayer> and try to add it
[12:48] <shadeslayer> but i dont see it
[12:48] <shadeslayer> do i have to compile it or something??
[12:49] <shadeslayer> installing package failed
[12:49] <pteague_laptop> install from file -> a window pops up & has 2 choices - plasmoid or dashboard... believe you need to select plasmoid, then that should give you a browse window
[12:50] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:51] <shadeslayer> ok
[12:51] <shadeslayer> then i select the .skz file
[12:51] <shadeslayer> on my desktop
[12:51] <shadeslayer> and then it says installing package failed
[12:53] <thehook> hi :) can anyone please give me a short intro to akonadi? im brand new to the kde
[12:53] <shadeslayer> !akonadi>thehook
[12:53] <shadeslayer> !akonadi
[12:54] <pteague_laptop> from a terminal type sensors & see if that gives you anything
[12:54] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:54] <shadeslayer> it gave me temps
[12:55] <shadeslayer> i have lm-sensors installed
[12:55] <shadeslayer> ><
[12:56] <pteague_laptop> do you have the hddtemp daemon running?
[12:56] <shadeslayer> pteague_laptop: did you get it working
[12:56] <shadeslayer> nope
[12:56] <shadeslayer> how do i run it
[12:56] <pteague_laptop> nope, i've got a huge install i'm currently doing & don't have hddtemp or lm-sensors in it
[12:57] <pteague_laptop> when you installed hddtemp it should have asked if you wanted to run the daemon on startup
[12:58] <shadeslayer> yeah it started them
[12:59] <pteague_laptop> try running `nc localhost 7634`
[12:59] <pteague_laptop> & see if it shows anything
[13:00] <shadeslayer> |/dev/sg0|WDC WD3200BEVT-75ZCT2|42|C||/dev/sda|WDC WD3200BEVT-75ZCT2|42|C|
[13:00] <pteague_laptop> ok, that's working... hmm...
[13:05] <pteague_laptop> ok, clicking that 'plasmoid binary' link sent me to another page instead of allowing me to download it... so i still don't know where to download it
[13:07] <shadeslayer> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+System+Monitor?content=86664
[13:07] <shadeslayer> download link at the bottom of description
[13:07] <shadeslayer> ><
[13:08] <shadeslayer> everybody @ #kde wants it now :P
[13:09] <Redleer> finally sounds works on my acer aspire 8930g :D
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Redleer: restart??
[13:11] <Redleer> shadeslayer: why would i need restart after getting sounds working? hehe
[13:11] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: fyi, from changelog kde 4.2 :         Multi-screen support has been improved through the Kephal library, fixing many bugs when running KDE on more than one monitor
[13:12] <heinkel_111> ^ I was hoping for more positive results from the than what I have seen so far
[13:12] <shadeslayer> Redleer: no i mean,did you restart kubuntu to get it workind
[13:12] <shadeslayer> *g
[13:12] <pteague_laptop> shadeslayer: cat that skz file or open it in a text editor...  i'm looking at what it downloaded for me & it says "Not found"
[13:13] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:13] <Redleer> shadeslayer: upgraded alsa and got hda-verb after that restart and sounds worked
[13:13] <shadeslayer> #kde thinks its superkaramba
[13:13] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[13:14] <shadeslayer> it opens in ark
[13:14] <shadeslayer> ><
[13:14]  * heinkel_111 brb reboot needed
[13:14] <klaus> hi everybody, anybody got experience with SIS M672 graphic?
[13:14] <shadeslayer> pteague_laptop: opened in ark
[13:14] <pteague_laptop> if your in a term, use cat on it, or open kate & open the file...
[13:14] <pteague_laptop> see what it says
[13:14] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:14] <pteague_laptop> if it says something about binary then it should be ok
[13:15] <shadeslayer> weird symbols
[13:15] <pteague_laptop> in which case i'm not sure why i got a plain text file simply stating "Not found"....  & i can't help anymore...  i'm fairly new to the whole kde4 thing
[13:15] <pteague_laptop> k, weird symbols should be binary then
[13:15] <shadeslayer> ���Q~�#%EvQ�'¥����>TUU���U���C����������8���'O����Q��Ex�7z��pw+�ݻw���~SRR2N�H�>~Ŋ3³į]M��&rkl�$,�CDϳw��XT��h��s�t˗//���+ҝ;w(��� �p�&�����������O��#V�UU
[13:15] <shadeslayer> sample
[13:15] <shadeslayer> :O
[13:15] <shadeslayer> oh crap
[13:15] <shadeslayer> sorry for that
[13:16] <shadeslayer> i was pasting it
[13:16] <shadeslayer> ><
[13:16] <shadeslayer> pteague_laptop: next step ??
[13:16] <pteague_laptop> yep, that's binary so at least you got it
[13:16] <shadeslayer> hehe
[13:16] <pteague_laptop> no idea why i can't get it
[13:17] <shadeslayer> wait ill send you the download link
[13:17] <pteague_laptop> i found it on that page after you said it was at the bottom of the description
[13:17] <shadeslayer> http://kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=86664&id=1&tan=47348040
[13:17] <shadeslayer> yeah
[13:18] <shadeslayer> try downloading that
[13:18] <pteague_laptop> it immediately finished downloading for me so i got suspicious & opened it with cat at which point i got the very useful message
[13:18] <pteague_laptop> oh wait, i think that tan is different
[13:18] <shadeslayer> tan??
[13:19] <pteague_laptop> the link i had ended with &tan=72053474
[13:19] <shadeslayer> they got it to work
[13:20] <Redleer> im not getting it to work either
[13:20] <shadeslayer> its superkaramba
[13:20] <shadeslayer> ><
[13:21] <pteague_laptop> ok, i got something other than "Not found", but it's just an html page >.<
[13:21] <shadeslayer> haha
[13:22] <shadeslayer> how to reload plasma??
[13:22] <shadeslayer> !plasma
[13:22] <pteague_laptop> !plasmoid
[13:22] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:22] <pteague_laptop> not sure, maybe log out & log back in?
[13:22] <pteague_laptop> !widget
[13:22] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:23] <shadeslayer> brb then
[13:27] <dr_Willis> Hmm.
[13:28] <mefisto__> shadeslayer: alt-F2, then type plasma
[13:29] <SandGorgon> does kubuntu 8.0.4.2 have KDE 4.2 - any kubuntu install cds with KDE 4.2 for that matter ?
[13:29] <pteague_laptop> aha, finally figured out why that game was crashing X...  dsound error... >.<
[13:30] <shadeslayer> pteague_laptop: got it to work
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:31] <pteague_laptop> afaik hardy only has kde3 on CD, but allows you to download -kde4 packages, not sure whether that's 4.1, 4.2 or whatnot
[13:31] <shadeslayer> oy oy oy
[13:31] <giarca> anyone know is there a plasmoid for kde4.2 to have the output of a program show like folder view?
[13:31] <giarca> I would have xconsole bond to the desktop
[13:31] <giarca> not a window itself
[13:31] <SandGorgon> pteague_laptop: any installer cd with 4.2 - I want to give it my non-computer savvy cousin to install
[13:31] <dr_Willis> You mean you wish to have text logging to onto a window on the desktop?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> giarca: you could run yakuake
[13:32] <pteague_laptop> intrepid has 4, but i don't know what version of 4
[13:32] <heinkel_111> hmm where did the appearance settings disappear to in kde 4.2 ?? huh?
[13:32] <giarca> dr_Willis: not exactly
[13:32] <giarca> try to explain better
[13:32] <giarca> the command xconsole give me a window I can resize or dock
[13:33] <giarca> I would tranfsorm that window in something like the kde's widget "folder view"
[13:33] <pteague_laptop> heinkel_111: i *think* it's the same as kmenu -> system -> system settings -> desktop ?
[13:33] <giarca> a sort of window rock solid on the desktop
[13:33] <pteague_laptop> or ...system settings -> appearance
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> giarca: why not use yakuake and then you can have it going in and out of view with a hotkey
[13:35] <heinkel_111> pteague_laptop: thank you, I found it now. my K-menu suddenly had several "settings" elements added at the top level beneath favorites and those folders did not contain anything
[13:35] <giarca> ActionParsnip: xconsole is not konsolo or xterm o gnome-terminal
[13:35] <pteague_laptop> hehe
[13:35] <giarca> :)
[13:35] <giarca> yakuake I know and don't fit my need :)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> !info xconsole
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> !xconsole
[13:36] <giarca> try run in your kubuntu the command xconsole
[13:36] <giarca> is something like a tail of dmesg in console
[13:36] <pteague_laptop> i want my quick launcher :(
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> pteague_laptop: sudo apt-get install --reinstall krunner
[13:37] <pteague_laptop> couldn't find package krunner
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> giarca: xconsole just gives me a white box with a cursor and it just beeps when i press any key (I use fluxbox)
[13:38] <giarca> try to open xterm or whatever and sudo su
[13:38] <giarca> logging some system operation
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> youu shouldnt sudo su
[13:38] <dr_Willis> do not use 'sudo su'   use sudo -s or sudo -i
[13:38] <dr_Willis> :)
[13:38] <giarca> LOL
[13:38] <dr_Willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[13:39] <giarca> it's for use
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> giarca: sudo su doesnt setup the environment correctly, just like sudo kate doesnt set up the environment correctly
[13:39] <olskolirc> I'm on Intrepid with Kde 4.2 stable and my pvr is only playing static for some reason in vlc with my Hauppague PVR card...any help?
[13:39] <giarca> it's to see what xconsole log
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> sudo -i (interactive is much better)
[13:39] <giarca> ActionParsnip: yeah
[13:40] <pteague_laptop> i think the only reason giarca made the comment to `sudo su` was because it will specifically dump something to xconsole... not that you should sudo su & then do something else as root
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> i see so its like a console logging thingy
[13:40] <giarca> pteague_laptop: yeah, it's the first command sure log something
[13:41] <giarca> ActionParsnip: yeah, but it log shclient also
[13:41] <giarca> and wnat to put them iptables too
[13:41] <giarca> but if I can't put xconsole in plasmoid like on desktop
[13:42] <giarca> it's not usable a windows open constantly...
[13:42] <pteague_laptop> isn't there even a launcher plasmoid where i'd have to specify each app i wanted to add to the panel? or some way to drag & drop apps from kmenu to panel? this is nuts :(
[13:44] <giarca> pteague_laptop: launcher palsmoid can't do what I'm asking for...
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> pteague_laptop: you can use the quick view panel like that
[13:44] <giarca> I don't know if exist something for what I'm asking...
[13:45] <giarca> ah... it wasn't for me.. :P
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> pteague_laptop: create a folder full of .desktop files and then use the folder view plasmoid to show that folder
[13:45] <pteague_laptop> giarca: sorry, o
[13:45] <pteague_laptop> er, i'm wanting a quicklaunch applet :)
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> pteague_laptop: you will then have a plasmoid full of launchers
[13:45] <tom__> Can people ask questions here?
[13:46] <pteague_laptop> no, nobody can ask questions here... it's why we're being quiet :)
[13:46] <tom__> Ok
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> tom__: ask away
[13:46] <tom__> Well, I'm new to Linux
[13:46] <tom__> And I'd like to get KDevelop to work
[13:47] <giarca> I have found
[13:47] <tom__> I'd like to write simple C++ and have it compiled and executed
[13:47] <giarca> FILE WATCHER plasmoid and then configure the log file I want to have on desktop
[13:47] <giarca> :)
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:48] <giarca> mmm I think...
[13:48] <chris-rc1> hi
[13:48] <chris-rc1>  i wanna use the mouse mark feature for drawing onto my desktop, but somehow it is kinda choppy. sometimes it starts drawing when i press down meta+shift, sometimes not. moreover, is there a way to use this in an OOO presentation?
[13:48] <heinkel_111> how do I adjust the colour on the taskbar at the bottom of the screen (kde 4.2)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> tom__: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:49] <drostie> heinkel_111: K > System Settings > Appearance
[13:49] <tom__> ActionParsnip: ?
[13:50] <tom__> (I've already installed KDevelop)
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> tom__: if you want to compile you need build-essential
[13:50] <tom__> Ok...and what did you mean with that?
[13:50] <heinkel_111> drostie: no....
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> !info build-essential
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> !compile
[13:50] <pteague_laptop> *sigh*...  falling prey to the way it should be done in kde4 apparently... i wanted to click my firefox launcher, only wait... no quick launcher ;)  so... kmenu -> internet ... no firefox towards the top... oh, not alphabetical... let's see... bittorrent, ktorrent, krfb, evolution...  *sigh* all the way at the bottom because why? oh, that's right "web browser" *description* which isn't shown starts with w ... >.<
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> tom__: have you installed kdevelop?
[13:51] <tom__> Yes
[13:51] <tom__> With Add/remove
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> ok then launch it from konsole by tying kdevelop
[13:53] <drostie> heinkel_111: sorry. K > System Settings > Advanced > Desktop Theme. ^_^
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> tom__: is that what you need or am i missing something?
[13:54] <legodude> what's the best way to restore my home directory after reinstalling?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> legodude: copy the data from your backup
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> legodude: if /home was on another partition, edit fstab to mount it as such
[13:55] <pteague_laptop> aha! i found a quicklauncher applet on that kde-look.org site
[13:56] <legodude> alright, I just wanted to make sure there weren't some config files that had to be touched in a certain way
[13:56] <tom__> ActionParsnip: Well, the program works/I can use it but I just don't know how to get it working properly
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> tom__: thats where you got me
[13:56] <drostie> legodude: [sudo cp -a ~/* /media/usbkey/folder] to get it onto a usb key, then [sudo cp -a /media/usbkey/folder/* ~] to get it back.
[13:56] <tom__> ActionParsnip: I need to make a target or something, and I have no idea what to do
[13:57] <drostie> Although, that might be bad if the user ids change, I don't know. (maybe don't sudo or -a the second part?)
[13:57] <drostie> blah, chat lag --_--;;
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> tom__: ive always just made a simple .cpp file then compiled it with: gcc source.cpp  (exemple) which will produce the binary a.out
[13:57]  * legodude will image his hard drive just to ensure this upgrade goes smoothly
[13:58] <shadeslayer> hi kubuntu is running uber slow,anything i can do
[13:58] <shadeslayer> gnome and XFCE run fine
[13:58] <drostie> shadeslayer: give it swap, make sure your video card drivers are installed, and make sure you have copious quantities of RAM.
[13:58] <tom__> ActionParsnip: So what do you recommend? Not using KDevelop and using something else?
[13:59] <shadeslayer> drostie: 3GB ram,3.5GB swap,177 drivers
[13:59] <drostie> Other than that, check the process lists to figure out whether anything's eating CPU time.
[13:59] <shadeslayer> how??
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> tom__: ive not used it so i couldnt comment
[13:59] <tom__> ActionParsnip: So what do you use?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> tom__: try finding some kdevelop guides for new kdevelop users
[14:00] <tom__> I see
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> tom__: like a kdevelop hello world program
[14:00] <shadeslayer> drostie: right now i see xorg is at the top
[14:00] <shadeslayer> thats from a widget
[14:01] <drostie> shadeslayer: type "top" into a console, or Alt-F2, "ksysguard".
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: if you rename ~/.kde and reboot does it speed up? yu will need to configure all kde apps again but its a good test
[14:02] <shadeslayer> :(
[14:02] <shadeslayer> lets see
[14:02] <shadeslayer> xorg is eating most
[14:02] <shadeslayer> ><
[14:02] <shadeslayer> then plasma
[14:02] <shadeslayer> then amarok
[14:02] <tom__> Can I use Konversation to join something else besides Ubuntu IRC?
[14:03] <shadeslayer> of course
[14:03] <drostie> amarok? Are you playing music right now?
[14:03] <shadeslayer>  /join
[14:03] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:03] <drostie> 'kay.
[14:03] <mefisto__> shadeslayer: try switching off desktop effects
[14:03] <shadeslayer> nooo
[14:03] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: if you have amarok2 then it is a huge memory hog
[14:03] <shadeslayer> please not desktop effects
[14:03] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:03] <shadeslayer> oh not 2
[14:03] <shadeslayer> i hald oneve the o
[14:03] <drostie> We find out that shadeslayer has 3GB of RAM... and a 333MHz processor ^_^
[14:03] <tom__> shadeslayer: How can I join something from a different server (quakenet) ?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> no
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: try renaming your ~/.kde folder, just to test
[14:04] <shadeslayer> 2.1 Ghz
[14:04] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: you can build up a test profile to see when the slowdown occurs
[14:04] <shadeslayer> ok
[14:04] <shadeslayer> will try
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: once you know you can bring in the original
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> and step it down
[14:05] <shadeslayer> OMG
[14:05] <shadeslayer> haha
[14:05] <shadeslayer> i had it powersave
[14:05] <shadeslayer> lol
[14:05] <tom__> How can I join a channel from a different server?
[14:05] <shadeslayer> 800 Mhz
[14:05] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:05] <shadeslayer> tom__: /join <channelname>
[14:06] <tom__> shadeslaer: It doesn't work, it's not the right one
[14:06] <shadeslayer> well that command should work with every IRC
[14:06] <shadeslayer> ><
[14:06] <tom__> But how does it know to look on Quakenet?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> tom__: you gotta join the other server first
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> tom__: then /j <channel>
[14:07] <tom__> ActionParsnip: And how do I do that?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> thats with /connect
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> tom__: what client are you using?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> i think
[14:08] <shadeslayer> konversation
[14:08] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:08] <tom__> Konversation
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> tom__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_commands#CONNECT
[14:09] <legodude> what
[14:09] <legodude> what's the easiest way to get a list of installed packages?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> legodude: dpkg -l
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> legodude: you may want to use: dpkg -l | less
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> legodude: makes it readable
[14:10] <legodude> dpkg -l > installed_pkgs actually :)
[14:10] <tom__> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but how do I know what the port is?
[14:11] <legodude> outside of my xorg.conf, are there any system files that I should probably be saving?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> tom__: default is 6667 try that
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> legodude: do you use samba? do you have a specialised fstab?
[14:11] <legodude> yes (fstab)
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> legodude: have you added aliases to ~/.bashrc
[14:11] <legodude> samba never worked right on this system
[14:12] <legodude> lots of aliases, which is why I'm saving my whole ~
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> legodude: you could backup ~/.mozilla and ~/.mozilla-thunderbird if you use them
[14:12] <tom__> connect QuakeNet 6667
[14:12] <tom__> Pfft
[14:12] <tom__> Things shouldn't be so hard
[14:12] <legodude> yes, I need all of the settings from my home folder
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> legodude: ~/.fluxbox/menu /startup /init /keys if you have modified them
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> legodude: the list is endless what you may or may not havve and/or editted
[14:13] <pteague_laptop> what's the keyboard shortcut for the kmenu ?
[14:13] <legodude> which is why I originally asked about anything special to restore the home folder to account for the config files
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> pteague_laptop: you need to set one
[14:13] <tom__> It says "This command is for network staff only"
[14:14] <drostie> legodude: if you've modified anything in /etc yourself, or /boot/grub/menu.lst, those can be backed up too. If you've written your own shell/python scripts in /bin, /usr/bin, or /usr/local/bin, you should back them up, too.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> tom__: try it from a non freenode channel
[14:15] <lovre> hello
[14:15] <tom__> ActionParsnip: I have no idea what any of that means :(
[14:16] <lovre> i was wondering, i have been using kubuntu for a while now, and i dont know, does it use some kind of firewall by default?
[14:16] <tom__> ActionParsnip: could you maybe just show what I have to write?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> tom__: currently you are in the channel #kubuntu on freenode server
[14:16] <drostie> lovre: the firewall is in the Linux kernel.
[14:16] <drostie> !firewall
[14:16] <tom__> Yes
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> tom__: if konversation has a kin of null channel that is on your system, use that
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> tom__: in ppidgin I have to create a new account for each server you connect to, im not sure how konversation handles this
[14:16] <tom__> ActionParsnip: I'm terribly sorry but I just don't know what you're talking about
[14:17] <lovre> drostie: wow, thats cool. What about virus protection? I dont think there is need for that?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> tom__: yep, looks like you have to add the server to your client
[14:17] <tom__> ActionParsnip: I'm not at all used to using IRC, so ...
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> i think i'm mixing rooms
[14:17] <tom__> ActionParsnip: And how do I "add" it ?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> my bad
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/serverlist.html
[14:18] <drostie> lovre: virus protection in Linux is, sadly, chiefly done through three methods: obscurity, keeping your packages up to date with security patches, and the built-in file permissions system.
[14:18] <lucas_> hi
[14:18] <sinclair> hi everyone
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> yes you are on irc which is fine, but konversation only knows freenode right now, i think you have to add it so you can use it
[14:18] <lucas_> i cannot raise my resolution to 1280x1024
[14:19] <lucas_> it is stuck in 1152,864
[14:19] <lucas_> (default)
[14:19] <lovre> drostie: as i understand, there is a little to none possibility of caching a virus, if not doing anything suspicious...
[14:19] <drostie> lovre: there aren't enough Linux-targeted viruses to justify the sort of checksum-based on-access testing that you see e.g. on Windows.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: have you tried adding the res to xorg.conf?
[14:20] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: my xorg.conf doesnt have any information.. only the identificators of the sections
[14:20] <lovre> drostie: i see. Another thing, does the built-in firewall allow everything by default?
[14:20] <drostie> lovre: that's also more or less true on Windows, too. :-P. The problem is that people often do suspicious things without realizing it.
[14:20] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: so i didn't try yet
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: can you pastebin it please
[14:20] <lucas_> yes
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:22] <lovre> drostie: im trying to install guarddog to see what it does. I thought its just a GUI for iptables. I got an error Unable to start guarddog firewall - /etc/rc.firewall does not exist
[14:22] <sinclair> best irc client for Kubuntu? Quassel?
[14:23] <drostie> lovre: I'd have to look up documentation on guarddog to help you there.
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> !best | sinclair
[14:23] <drostie> sinclair: Quassel and KVirc are both decent.
[14:23] <lovre> drostie: ok, dont bother then
[14:23] <tom__> ActionParsnip: where can I find what network quakenet is on
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> sinclair: best doesnt exist en mass, best is only best to you
[14:24] <tuxi> I like Konversation better than Quassel (YMMV)
[14:24] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: http://rafb.net/p/2BvvV240.html
[14:24] <drostie> tom__: irc.quakenet.org:6667
[14:24] <lovre> drostie: so does the firewall allow everything by default?
[14:25] <drostie> lovre: as far as I know, yes. You might [sudo iptables -L] in a konsole to find out directly, though.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> tom__: irc.quakenet.com is my gues
[14:25] <lovre> drostie: ok, thank you for your time
[14:25] <tom__> ActionParsnip: So I have to fill that in in the "Network" box, right?
[14:26] <drostie> sure, no problem. Gotta do something while the laundry is going. ^_^;;
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: wow thats bare, you will need to add some more info like driver and resolution and refresh rates to get a decent display
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> tom__: thats the server name
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> tom__: port will be 6667
[14:26] <drostie> ActionParsnip, tom__: it's .org, not .com.
[14:26] <tom__> ActionParsnip: And what will be the network name?
[14:27] <tom__> (Like "Freenode" or something, I need to fill in something there)
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: here's mine: http://pastebin.com/f611d8aac
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> tom__: i think thats just a name for your convenience
[14:27] <drostie> tom: the network name is whatever you want it to be.
[14:27] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: yes i know.. but that's the default intrepid xorg.conf.. i though the config was done somewhere else. ty
[14:27] <pteague> hmm... wow is causing dsound errors after changing my video card from an 8600 to a 9600 on my desktop :(  http://pastebin.com/mbada3fa
[14:29] <shadeslayer> huh bluetooth isnt working
[14:29] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: yours doesnt work for me.. the kubuntu splash screen doesn't display and i get a console login
[14:29] <lucas_> i think i need to add the resolutions manually..
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: mine is an nvidia xorg.conf, you need to copy bits out to make yours work
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[14:31] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1)
[14:31] <tom__> ActionParsnip: It worked! Thanks!!!
[14:31] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: i've just run nvidia-xconfig
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: have you ran: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[14:32] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> ok then if yu ran sudo nvidia-xconfig you should be able to startx
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-273637.html
[14:33] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: i get an error.. usplash cannot run in this resolution
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: add another resolution to the list that is 640x480
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> i think usplash uses that
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> you could always run: sudo dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> to get a default one, then run sudo nvidia-xconfig, restart x
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> lucas_: dd the nvdiakerenl build k when you installed 177
[14:35] <ubuntu_> hello everyone
[14:35] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: yes.. it is actually running fine right now.. but with 1152x864 res
[14:36] <lucas_> ActionParsnip: i will try to add the resolutions manually to my xorg.conf
[14:36] <ubuntu_> I am running kubuntu 7.10 livecd as I am in an emergency situation... I extracted all the files from the latest Ubuntu ISO to the root of my USB drive, now how do I make the drive bootable so I can install Ubuntu from it?
[14:37] <panther_> Hello! I have a problem making ./configure with wxGTK-2.8.90=>config.status: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in, although "make" is installed?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> !usb | ubuntu_
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: its a little more complicated than that
[14:38] <chris-rc1> does anybody use impress for presentations?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> chris-rc1: try in #Openoffice.org
[14:39] <ubuntu_> yes I read that
[14:39] <ubuntu_> should I use syslinux or install a tool
[14:41] <ali__> I want to install virtual machines in my Kubuntu Machine
[14:41] <ali__> In XP i did it using VMWARE
[14:41] <ali__> but how to do in Kubuntu
[14:42] <ali__> Hello
[14:42] <ali__> [19:41] <ali__> I want to install virtual machines in my Kubuntu Machine
[14:42] <ali__> [19:41] <ali__> In XP i did it using VMWARE
[14:42] <ali__> [19:41] <ali__> but how to do in Kubuntu
[14:44] <ubuntu_> looks like I have to it manually,  as there is no usb-creator package for pre-8.10 versions
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> !vmware
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ali__: and please dont paste like that
[14:45] <ali__> no one was answering thats why I again pasteed my answer
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> well you waited all of 60 seconds
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> so you dint really give anyone chance
[14:47] <Redleer> ali__: https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/?p=workstation-l
[14:48] <heinkel_111> is there a good irc client for kde4?
[14:48] <giarca> heinkel_111: konversation
[14:48] <Dragnslcr> Konversation works fine for me
[14:49] <Dragnslcr> I don't think there are any written specifically for KDE4
[14:49] <heinkel_111> i use konversation but it is kde3 and not updated
[14:49] <Dragnslcr> They're still working on the new version
[14:49] <giarca> yeah! great software, very clean with all the stuff lot of poeple need
[14:49] <giarca> ah...
[14:49] <giarca> heinkel_111: kvirc?
[14:49] <heinkel_111> starts firefox instead of konqueror when I click on links abd I can't get it to integrate with kde4 things to well
[14:50] <heinkel_111> giarca: I tried kvirc a couple of days ago, not impressed
[14:50] <heinkel_111> it was more like a windows application, lacking a lot of the kde integration features
[14:51] <Dragnslcr> I believe Konversation uses whatever your default browser is for links
[14:51] <giarca> Dragnslcr: it does
[14:51] <Dragnslcr> Check System Settings -> Default Applications
[14:52] <heinkel_111> Dragnslcr: mine for some reason I don't know insists on launching firefox
[14:52] <thedark> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ./isotostick.sh ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso /media/disk/
[14:52] <thedark> ./isotostick.sh [--reset-mbr] [--noverify] <isopath> <usbstick device>
[14:52] <thedark> someone please help me
[14:52] <thedark> what do I need to type
[14:53] <thedark> the iso is in the same directory as the script and the path is /media/disk/
[14:53] <drostie> heinkel_111: kvirc, quassel exist for kde4.
[14:53] <thedark> of the usb drive I want to make bootable
[14:53] <heinkel_111> quassel?
[14:53] <drostie> quassel. IRC client. you were asking about them?
[14:54] <Redleer> im using quassel and looks nice
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> !usb | thedark
[14:54] <thedark> is my question dumb?
[14:54] <thedark> okay I got the directions from ther
[14:55] <Dragnslcr> thedark- try using the path to the device instead of the mount point?
[14:55] <thedark> I copy and pasted it straight from there, but changed the directories
[14:55] <thedark> ?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> heinkel_111: change ythe browser used in konversation as the default browser
[14:56] <ali__> does anyone knows how to run Dsniff tool on Kubuntu
[14:56] <thedark> so that that would be /mnt/sdb2/
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> heinkel_111: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1083059
[14:56] <ali__> I have downloaded a tar.gz file
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> !info dsniff
[14:56] <thedark> that gives me the same prompt with the syntax for the command, which leaves me to believe it didn't work
[14:56] <ali__> i have extracted it ..... but dont know how to run
[14:56] <drostie> thedark: type "mount" into a console, put the results in a pastebin for us to see.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ali__: its in the repo
[14:57] <ali__> so it will install from            sudo apt-get install dsniff ??
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ali__: yes
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ali__: always ALWAYS check the repo first to see if its there
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ali__: most likely it will be
[14:57] <ali__> where to check the repo
[14:58] <ali__> I mean how can i check a repo
[14:58] <ali__> that here are these softwares
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ali__: synaptic
[14:58] <ali__> ohhhhhhh Thanks
[14:58] <thedark> here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/124789/
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ali__: or apt-cache search <program>
[14:58] <thedark> thank you for helping me
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> ali__: in ubuntu is hugely rare to need to physically download stuff, its done with repositorys
[14:59] <ali__> its Adept in Kubuntu right ?
[15:00] <thedark> I also try typing this: sudo ./isotostick.sh ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso /dev/sdb2/
[15:00] <drostie> thedark: what's the first partition on /dev/sdb holding?
[15:00] <thedark> but again it just gives me the syntax prompt
[15:01] <thedark> you mean dev sdb2?
[15:01] <drostie> thedark: I have no idea what your custom shell script contains or does. It's not a mainline package, as far as I can tell.
[15:01] <olskolirc> I'm on Intrepid...how do I get my external usb hard drives to automatically mount on boot up please?
[15:01] <drostie> thedark: no, I mean /dev/sdb1, the first partition on your USB drive.
[15:01]  * thedark sighs I got it from the page that bot keeps sending me too and have looked at many times already!
[15:02] <john_> how to install acceleration 3D on 8.10? and how to install official nvidia driver ('X server is running' error)?
[15:02] <thedark> I didn't realize there was more than 1... this drive is actually my old comp hd from a previous kubuntu install on a comp that got fried
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> thedark: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-kubuntu-810-install-via-usb-creator/
[15:02] <thedark> I don't have 8.10
[15:02] <thedark> 8.10 crashed
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> john_: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[15:03] <thedark> I am using a 7.10 livecd to get support so I can start anew with Ubuntu 8.10
[15:03] <thedark> because I am suck of KDE 4s issues
[15:03] <thedark> it is an emergency situation
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> thedark: its the same procedure for 7.10 as 8.10
[15:04] <thedark> that is why I am using the script from the page you have sent me to twice
[15:04] <thedark> I tried installing usb creator in the konsole
[15:04] <thedark> says no such package
[15:05] <federico> ciao
[15:05] <federico> ciao
[15:05] <thedark> anyeung gaseyo
[15:06] <thedark> if you could tell me how to install USB live creator on Kubuntu 7.10, I would LOVE to hear it
[15:06] <thedark> I would love to use a simple gui and be through this nightmare
[15:06] <drostie> blech, this is a rather complicated shell script.
[15:07] <thedark> how about using syslinux
[15:07] <thedark> I could do it manually
[15:07] <thedark> has nobody done this before?
[15:07] <drostie> thedark: open up a konsole and type [sudo apt-get install usb-creator] (without the brackets) to install the usb-creator package.
[15:07] <noren> hi there
[15:08] <noren> need an urgent help can i get back the just deleted file which i rremoved form the bin also..
[15:08] <thedark> ....
[15:08] <thedark> I have done that already
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> thedark: that guide walks you through the steps needed, you dont need a usb creator
[15:09] <thedark> well I just ran syslinux
[15:10] <thedark> looks like the end of the line, the filesystem has to be fat32 huh
[15:10] <thedark> the drive is ext2
[15:11] <drostie> thedark: you have two partitions on your drive. I'm guessing /dev/sdb1 is fat32, and /dev/sdb2 is ext2/3?
[15:12] <drostie> noren: [sudo apt-get install foremost] ...?
[15:13] <shadeslayer> hey whats the package name of amarok 2.1 in kubuntu??
[15:14] <thedark> I don't know
[15:14] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:14] <shadeslayer> well somebody might
[15:14] <thedark> I was answering drostie, sorry
[15:14] <drostie> shadeslayer: just "amarok", though the version depends on your distribution version (i.e. hardy, intrepid, or jaunty).
[15:15] <shadeslayer> intrepid
[15:15] <thedark> how do I find out, and how do I set syslinux to make that partition bootable if it is fat32
[15:15] <shadeslayer> so will i get 2.1??
[15:16] <thedark> how about this
[15:16] <drostie> !info amarok | shadeslayer
[15:16] <shadeslayer> amarok is not it
[15:16] <thedark> is there a way to just make my hd bootable like a livecd
[15:16] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:16] <thedark> I already backed everything up
[15:16] <shadeslayer> ubottu rocks
[15:16] <shadeslayer> haha
[15:16] <thedark> dear god just how do I get ubuntu 8.10 installed on this without a livecd
[15:17] <shadeslayer> :O
[15:17] <shadeslayer> thats not possible
[15:17] <shadeslayer> what do you have??
[15:17] <drostie> shadeslayer: amarok in intrepid is version 1.4.10, to get a later version, download from the Jaunty repository.
[15:17] <shadeslayer> oh you could  wubi
[15:17] <shadeslayer> ;)
[15:17] <shadeslayer> drostie: which is??
[15:18] <shadeslayer> but that would mean jaunty upgrades
[15:18] <drostie> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/amarok
[15:18] <drostie> No, you don't need to dist-upgrade to jaunty to dl their packages from packages.ubuntu.com.
[15:19] <drostie> ok now, thedark. Do you already have a functioning Ubuntu distribution?
[15:19] <thedark> no. just this livecd
[15:19] <thedark> unless by functional
[15:19] <thedark> you mean the recovery console
[15:20] <drostie> Can you run the livecd on some computer in your home?
[15:20] <thedark> this livecd is 7.10
[15:21] <thedark> I want Ubuntu 8.10
[15:21] <thedark> NOT Kubuntu
[15:21] <thedark> I have installed that thing twice in less than two weeks
[15:21] <tuxi> and you can't burn a CD?
[15:21] <thedark> my computing life has been a nightmare
[15:21] <thedark> no cds, yes I know I am an idiot
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> i'd go buy a cake (if possible)
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> media == CHEEEEEP
[15:22] <thedark> yeah I know I just moved to a foreign country
[15:22] <thedark> there were other things on my mind
[15:22] <thedark> it was an oversight
[15:22] <tuxi> don't need computing issues on top of all the other bits
[15:22] <thedark> so I guess there is no way huh
[15:22]  * tuxi has been an expatriate
[15:23] <thedark> I mean, I need this asap man, I need my comp
[15:23] <drostie> there's certainly a way, you just have no patience. :-P
[15:23] <thedark> I understand how I come off but
[15:23] <thedark> I have been in this room many,many times over the past two weeks
[15:23] <thedark> I have been given a solution like once
[15:24] <thedark> and I have spent many hours here
[15:24] <thedark> like I said, Kubuntu 8.10 has been a nightmare
[15:24] <thedark> it is late where I am and if people just don't have an answer or I am just screwed, at this point I would like to know, because I don't have hours and hours
[15:24] <drostie> Dude. The more time I have to type in response to complaints, the slower I actually can help you with your problem. :-P
[15:24] <thedark> okay, sorry
[15:25] <drostie> Okay, so you have an ubuntu 8.10 livecd image, and you're now chatting from... what? kubuntu 7.10? windows? something else?
[15:25] <cuznt> i have spent many hours here myself
[15:26] <pteague> using kubuntu you could install ubuntu-desktop
[15:26] <thedark> kubuntu 7.10 livecd
[15:26] <cuznt> and not gotten answers. sometimes you got to take the bits you DO have and piece them together. because its beta thedark we all  learn together.
[15:27] <thedark> yeah well I never meant to jump on this beta train... I am a casual user that didn't know what he was getting into when he upgraded
[15:27] <cuznt> you need 8.04.2 the dark
[15:27] <thedark> my fault
[15:27] <pteague> thedark: what's on the computer you're currently using? or is the livecd all you have?
[15:27] <thedark> but I am still frustrated
[15:27] <drostie> OK. And you've got a hard drive which is connected via USB, with two partitions -- sdb1 (vfat) and sdb2 (ext2), correct?
[15:27] <thedark> Kubuntu 8.10 is on the comp
[15:27] <cuznt> ok
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> pteague: i think he is booted to a live cd with a view to putting an 8.10 iso on a usb stick to make it bootable
[15:28] <thedark> but the xserver won't start
[15:28] <thedark> YES! action basically has it right
[15:28] <thedark> there is only one partition on the usb drive
[15:28] <thedark> I don't know where you get that
[15:29] <thedark> qtparted only recognizes one filesystem... ext2
[15:29] <drostie> Your pastebin suggested that /dev/sdb2 is mounted, and by Linux file conventions, that means there should be a /dev/sdb1.
[15:29] <pteague> ah, i've not put anything on a usb stick yet...  however, can you mount an ext3 drive via the 7.10 livecds?  if so, you could easily download the 8.10 iso & store to somewhere... but i'm not sure if the livecd would let you eject itself in order to put another in...
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> thedark: have you booted to the hdd recovery root console and ran: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:30]  * thedark whimpers
[15:30] <thedark> I guess I could try it
[15:30] <thedark> of course
[15:30] <thedark> if it doesn't work
[15:30] <pteague> yeah, dpkg-reconfigure ftw
[15:30] <cuznt> what action says works thedark
[15:30] <cuznt> ive been down that road myself
[15:30] <thedark> I will just reboot the livecd and lose my mind going through this all again
[15:31] <XiXaQ> hello everyone. I'm testing kubuntu jaunty and I'm really impressed. I haven't used KDE in many years, but now I'm actually considering a switch. As a new kde 4 user, I have a bunch of questions. Is there any gnome-kde migration guide somewhere?
[15:31] <thedark> okay....
[15:31] <thedark> I will try it
[15:31] <cuznt> no thedark if it does not work, that just means that that was not the problems
[15:31] <thedark> DON'T DO IT
[15:31] <cuznt> but you got to do things in order
[15:32] <thedark> okay I will try it
[15:32] <samirnassar> XiXaQ: Are you asking about analogous software? Banshee vs. Amarok for example?
[15:32] <drostie> thedark: you haven't been using jaunty, so stop typing in all caps.
[15:33] <thedark> what is jaunty, 8.10.XXwhatever
[15:33] <pteague> what file extension do plasmoids have?
[15:33] <thedark> all I know is KDE 4.1 was killing me
[15:33] <drostie> No. 8.10 is intrepid.
[15:33] <Mamarok> thedark: no, it's 9.04
[15:33] <thedark> wow so it is super experimental
[15:33] <thedark> how can it be better
[15:34] <drostie> Because 8.10 is on KDE 4.1, which was a rough draft of the beautiful interface that is KDE 4.2, which is now available on 9.04.
[15:34] <Mamarok> thedark: well, some people just like it, and it's not experimental but more like testing, to be released in a month time
[15:34] <samirnassar> thedark: it isn't. the last person who ran jaunty died a horrible death after his hard drive exploded.
[15:34] <thedark> I believe it
[15:34] <samirnassar> thedark: seriously, never use jaunty.
[15:34] <thedark> I feel dead inside
[15:34] <drostie> But jaunty is still in alpha builds, and packages are constantly being upgraded.
[15:34] <XiXaQ> samirnassar: not really. What are wallets? Can I configure the K-menu to not switch between the categories on mouse hovering? Are plasmoids and widgets the same thing? Can I have different widgets on different workspaces?
[15:34] <samirnassar> damn, I just ran out of troll food
[15:34] <thedark> I am getting off the KDE bandwagon once I get through this
[15:35] <thedark> anyway I am wasting too much time, I will this dpkg thing
[15:36] <samirnassar> XiXaQ: there are alternatives to K-Menu. Lancelot for example, and even a "traditional" menu
[15:36] <bartskde2> trying to make the switch back to kde from gnome. how do I set dragon or vlc to start when I insert a dvd?
[15:37] <samirnassar> XiXaQ: KWallet is a password storage app. It can handle things like entering your password for you in a variety of apps.
[15:37] <drostie> !kwallet | XiXaQ
[15:37] <XiXaQ> samirnassar: I noticed that, but I like the menu except for that one thing. I use a touchpad without complete control, and it's annoying that the menu skips between categories that easily. I'd like to order that with a click.
[15:38] <samirnassar> XiXaQ: if you right click on the K-Menu
[15:38] <samirnassar> XiXaQ: you'll get Application launcher setting option.
[15:38] <samirnassar> XiXaQ: you can turn off hovering there.
[15:38] <thomas____> anyone else experiencing lockups using kde 4 and the "opengl" screensavers? when I try to open the screen lock the screen either flickers wildly between the screensaver and the "lock up" image or just locks
[15:39] <XiXaQ> ah! Nice. Thanks :)
[15:39] <drostie> And yes, plasmoids and widgets are the same thing. But I think all workspaces share the same panels, in which case, I don't think you can have different plasmoids on different workspaces.
[15:39] <chairman_> does anybody have MySpace IM on Kopete
[15:41] <XiXaQ> drostie: in the upper right, there is a button that you can click. You can zoom out. There you can "add activity", which seems to be different workspaces with different widgets.
[15:42] <thedark> ok it worked
[15:42] <thedark> sorry for being a jerk, I am just really happy it worked
[15:42] <thedark> but I am still switching to Ubuntu in a few days
[15:43] <thedark> so thank you, this simple advice was really helpful
[15:43] <thedark> and I will just buy cds later this week
[15:43] <drostie> Yet another problem solved by ActionParsnip ^_^
[15:43] <thomas____> quassel irc was not so bad, in fact it reminds me very much of konversation
[15:44] <drostie> thomas____: it feels kinda... rough to me, though.
[15:44] <drostie> anyways.
[15:45] <bartskde2> any idea how to get vlc to start automatically when I insert a dvd in kde 4.2?
[15:47] <pteague_laptop> does konqueror or dolphin let you use tree view anymore?
[15:48] <kishore> is the right channel for talking about jaunty?
[15:49] <kishore> or is there one specifically setup for jaunty?
[15:50] <XiXaQ> kishore: hehe, good question. I'm new here myself because I'm testing jaunty. Nobody's complained about my questions, but there is a channel called #ubuntu+1, which are the primary channel for the next version of ubuntu. I reckon that goes for kubuntu too..
[15:50] <dr_Willis> Yep.
[15:51] <kishore> XiXaQ: since you are with jaunty? let me just ask.. if you experience stability issues. and several zombie processes?
[15:51] <m477> on fresh 8.10 i have this error 'konqueror crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV).'
[15:51] <m477> all the time
[15:52] <kishore> XiXaQ: which i think are mostly due the qt 4.5 switch
[15:52] <kishore> m477: my intrepid install (with 4.2) is pretty stable
[15:53] <XiXaQ> kishore: I haven't used KDE in about ten years, and I've been testing kubuntu jaunty for two hours approximately. I do get some errors, but I haven't really checked the system thoroughly.
[15:53] <kishore> XiXaQ: ah ok :)
[15:53] <heinkel_111> ActionParsnip: thank you for the link, the technique worked fine and now I can again open konqueror from konversation
[15:54] <khirr> hello, i have kubuntu 9.04 but it is in english, how could i traslate this?
[15:54] <dr_Willis> !locale
[15:54] <heinkel_111> I still prefer konversation to quassel, I think
[15:54] <SandGorgon> XiXaQ, how is the stability of jaunty with kde 4.2 ?
[15:54] <m477> kishore: on 4.2 i wont get this error ?
[15:54] <pteague> if anybody else is looking for a quick launcher for kde4 i found a functional 1 at http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=78061&forumpage=2 ...  there's a binary for 32bit ubuntu, i had to compile for 64bit
[15:55] <XiXaQ> SandGorgon: as I said, I've been testing it for only two hours. That's not sufficient to start making claims on stability. It hasn't crashed yet, but then if it did, it would be scandalous.
[15:55] <kishore> m477: i cant say for sure but IMHO stability "improved" with kubuntu releasing 4.2 which is now also available in backports
[15:56] <pteague> the weather plasmoid is kind of a fail... it's saying it's 2F outside & it's 14F
[15:56] <kishore> XiXaQ: its not exactly crashing but behaves weird at times... can you check if you have zombie processes? (ctrl+esc)
[15:56] <XiXaQ> sounds like a data source issue, pteague.
[15:57] <kishore> pteague: have you configured it right for your place?
[15:57] <pteague> i put in my zip code
[15:57] <m477> kishore: so the best way to instal 4.2 is by website or adept ?
[15:58] <XiXaQ> kishore: none that I can see.
[15:58] <kishore> i have zombie processes from ksmserver and amarok too leaves lots of amarokcollection processes
[15:58] <pteague> & i can barely read the background stating it's kansas city
[15:58] <kishore> m477: adept should do
[15:59] <pteague> accuweather says for my zip it's 12F & 11F "realfeel' ... weather.com says it's 14F & feels like 1F
[15:59] <kishore> m477: but you should have backports enabled
[15:59] <SandGorgon> XiXaQ, kishore any of you using nVidia cards? I have XPS with nvidia laptop and i'm concerned about the new Xorg
[15:59] <m477> kishore:  how can i do that ?
[16:00] <XiXaQ> SandGorgon: I'm running in vbox.
[16:00] <kishore> SandGorgon: I have nvidia
[16:00] <SandGorgon> kishore, which card ?
[16:02] <kishore> SandGorgon: internal go6150
[16:02] <kishore> m477: let me check in the UI.. im mostly used to the command line.. :P
[16:04] <m477> kishore: ok np i will w8
[16:04] <kishore> m477: i think it is called "unsupported updates" in the UI
[16:05] <kishore> m477: open adept and click on edit software sources
[16:05] <kishore> under sources
[16:06] <m477> kishore: just that ?
[16:07] <rizvan> i messed my nvidia drivers, now x won't load with "nvidia"
[16:07] <rizvan> is there a fix?
[16:08] <kishore> m477: i guess.. help me here... once you update software sources
[16:08] <mmaker> привет всем
[16:08] <kishore> in a command line execute "using inertial sensors
[16:08] <kishore> "
[16:08] <kishore> sorry...
[16:09] <kishore> in a command line execute "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep backports"
[16:09] <kishore> and tell me the output
[16:10] <m477> kishore: yes i got 25 software updates availble should i install all ?
[16:11] <kishore> does that list kde applications?
[16:11] <kishore> m477: 25 is rather small
[16:13] <m477> kishore: i have fresh system and i did one upgrade just, befor that
[16:13] <kishore> m477: and was unsupported updates already enabled?
[16:14] <m477> kishore: no, these were 'normal' updates
[16:14] <kishore> open any kde application and look into help->about it should mention your current version
[16:14] <m477> kishore: now when i enable unsuported i got 25 packages avalible to update the most like KDE upgrades
[16:15] <kishore> m477: an upgrade to 4.2 should list many more applications that just 25 i would think
[16:15] <kishore> m477: to be use, check on the command line with the command "sudo apt-get -V dist-upgrade"
[16:16] <kishore> it will mention the current version number and the version to which it is being upgraded
[16:16] <kishore> all kde applications should show something like 4.1.x to 4.2.x
[16:17] <draik_> How can I find out why my computer keeps on freezing?
[16:17] <kishore> draik_: do you have any binray restricted drivers installed?
[16:19] <m477> kishore: why 'about kde' shows me that i have 3.5.10 version when i got 8.10 and on starting up show 4.1 ?
[16:19] <draik_> To the best of my knowledge, no. But this issue has been happening ever since I started installing Kubuntu Intrepid on my 1TB. It's odd since I just installed Kubuntu on my friend's 1TB last night without any of these issues.
[16:20] <m477> kishore: now shows 93 upgraded, 18 newly installed, 2 to remove and 1 not upgraded. ( 147 mb )
[16:20] <kishore> m477: which app did you check
[16:20] <kishore> m477: now that sounds more realistic
[16:21] <m477> kishore: amarok , konversation
[16:22] <m477> kishore: in terminal 4.1.4 <lol>
[16:22] <kishore> m477: too bad those two apps in 8.10 are indeed kde 3 apps :)
[16:22] <m477> kishore: ah
[16:23] <kishore> but kde 4 version of amarok is available as amarok-kde4
[16:23] <m477> kishore: ok thx but it will change just look ?
[16:24] <kishore> draik_: im really not sure. you should check with the kernel guys
[16:24] <drostie> My screen blanks on the "desktop" icon in the KDE4.2 login splash screen, before half-returning in for the K-icon. it then all reappears to do the fade-to-desktop effect. Any ideas on what happens during that icon?
[16:24] <draik_> kishore: #kernel ?
[16:24] <kishore> m477: amarok for kde4 is very different
[16:24] <kishore> you should check if you really want to upgrade
[16:24] <m477> kishore: i installed this update im gonna reboot
[16:24] <drostie> Because if I have to, I will replace those icons with a splash screen that says, "Shiny. Pants. Fruit filling. K." instead.
[16:25] <kishore> draik_: i think it is #ubuntu-kernel
[16:25] <pteague> anybody know what dev packages i need in order to build the plasmoids from kde-look.org ?
[16:25] <khirr> what are the repositories for kubuntu 9.04?
[16:26] <kishore> pteague: try libplasma-dev
[16:26] <drostie> khirr: the same as kubuntu 8.10, with the "jaunty" keyword instead of the "intrepid" keyword.
[16:26] <pteague> what dromer said
[16:26] <khirr> yes, but, i dont know where i can get the list
[16:27] <kishore> khirr: /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:27] <khirr> i have spain list, i need central list
[16:28] <drostie> Try just "archive.ubuntu.com" rather than es.archive.ubuntu.com ?
 i will try
[16:28] <pteague> kishore: already auto installed...  think i may need to install kde-devel &/or kde-devel-extras ?
[16:30] <m477> kishore: when i was rebooting kde had crashed all screan was in strange signs i made picture by camera i can show you if it helps
[16:30] <kishore> m477: but is it ok now?
[16:30] <drostie> A picture would tell us much more than "all screan was in strange signs."
[16:30] <kishore> using inertial sensors
[16:31] <m477> kishore:  yes i think
[16:31] <kishore> damn the mouse pad
[16:31] <drostie> inertial sensors...?
 it works
[16:31] <m477> drostie: tell me your e mail i send picture
[16:32] <kishore> drostie: sorry.. accidentally pasted from another document that im working on
[16:32] <dromer> pteague: I didn't say anything ..
[16:33] <pteague> dromer: sorry, tab completion gave me wrong nic & i wasn't paying attention... shame on me
[16:33] <dromer> :P
[16:33] <kishore> pteague: that should be enough as a minimum.. which applet are you trying to build and what error do you get?
[16:33] <dromer> does anybode know when the 180 nvidia driver will be available in ubuntu?
[16:34] <kishore> dromer: it already is
[16:34] <draik_> I have now lost internet connection to my desktop
[16:34] <m477> drostie: i sent
[16:34] <draik_> It either kills off the internet connection or it freezes. I don't have the slightest clue about what is happening with my desktop.
[16:35] <draik_> OK, now it is frozen
[16:35] <pteague> kishore: i'm trying to compile a couple of them...  adjustable clock & customizable weather plasmoid seem to be giving me the same/similar errors at the top
[16:35] <drostie> isn't it horrible having two people in the chat with the same first three letters of their handle? *g*
[16:37] <pteague> 1 of the issues is that it seems like at some point it can't find an included file & i'm not sure whether it's supposed to be in the sources from the tarball or from 1 of the default plasmoids
[16:37] <drostie> draik_: what's happening with your desktop?
[16:37] <drostie> I mean, more specifically than "It either kills off the internet or it freezes" -- what is "it"?
[16:38] <dromer> kishore: hmm ok, I can only get the 96, 173 and 177 driver for my card though
[16:38] <draik_> drostie: Same thing; loss of internet (if I get that far) with the ever-constant freezing
[16:38] <kishore> pteague: whats the include file that is missing?
[16:38] <drostie> m477: that's a pretty spectacular death screen. Much better than any BSOD on Windows. :-D
[16:39] <m477> drostie: yes i got it second time in one day
[16:39] <draik_> I just opened the case and disconnected the 3 hard drives I'm not using right now. See if that fixes anything.
[16:39] <m477> drostie: could it be cuz i dont have instaled drivers for grphic card ?
[16:40] <pteague> plasmaclock/clockapplet.h & then there's lots of interrupts after it followed by errors
[16:40] <drostie> m477: that would depend on the graphics card, I suppose, but I can't imagine that anything from Linux has that sort of screen hard-coded in it.
[16:40] <m477> kishore: it havent helped The application Konqueror (konqueror) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT). next crash
[16:41] <m477> drostie: nvidia 8600m gs
[16:41] <kishore> m477: does this only happen with konq?
[16:41] <pteague> & for the weather plasmoid it's missing/can't find Plasma/PopupApplet
[16:42] <m477> kishore: i dont know i just opened that till
[16:42] <m477> kishore: i supoust it will do with more aplications
[16:42] <kishore> interesting.. since i do not face the same...
[16:43] <m477> i have this problem on few versions kubuntu
[16:43] <draik_> No internet on the desktop
[16:43] <kishore> did you migrate your home folder from older versions of kubuntu?
[16:44] <m477> i did always format
[16:44] <draik_> Now system is frozen.
[16:44] <draik_> Hard drive is vaguely warm,
[16:44] <m477> kishore: i think it is becouse i havent 3d acceleration instaled
[16:45] <drostie> draik_: what system are you running? just saying "I have no internet, now my system is frozen" doesn't really tell us much.
[16:45] <kishore> m477: still should not crash... It's a bug never the less! :)
[16:46] <m477> kishore: so what i have to do with that
[16:46] <draik_> drostie: Kubuntu Intrepid on 1TB HDD. And now, it's not reading that HDD.
[16:47] <kishore> m477: you should file a bug in launchpad
[16:47] <m477> by the way how i install opera by adept when it coudnt find it ?
[16:48] <kishore> m477: i think you need to add a repository
[16:49] <m477> kishore: can you tell me how ?
[16:50] <draik_> My BIOS reset itself to begin from the HDD rather than add-on card; odd. I'm back into Kubuntu.
[16:50] <kishore> m477: sorry i do not have the details with me here but they should be available from the opera download pages
[16:50] <Slartibartfast> m477, opera is not offered through a repostory as far as i know ....... just download from there website
[16:51] <drostie> For the record, I've resized m477's crash screen and uploaded it here: http://drostie.org/ksod.jpg
[16:51] <drostie> it's very very spectacular.
[16:51] <kishore> dromer: Wow!
[16:51] <draik_> It's pretty, but not what is needed.
[16:52] <Slartibartfast> wow ... like a caleidoscope :-)
[16:52] <khirr> how could i install nvidia drivers in kubuntu 9.04?
[16:52] <draik_> What would cause my computer to suddenly freeze?
[16:52] <drostie> khirr: K > Applications > System > Hardware Drivers should do it.
[16:53] <draik_> And to lose an internet connection while getting packages.
[16:53] <drostie> draik_: KDE 4.1? 4.2?
[16:54] <draik_> 4.2
[16:54] <mino_> hi :)
 driver not appear
[16:54] <skeebo> I'm running kubuntu 8.10, and I have an external drive with a FAT32 fs (it's a very busy drive) and thus needs defragging.... :( So I was wondering how safe it is to mount my external drive to my XP SP3 VM to defrag it for me. Should I run into any problems doing this?
[16:55] <mino_> where is the audio device settings in amarok2 ? ( i run kde 4.2 )
[16:55] <m477> kishore: did you see it ? http://drostie.org/ksod.jpg
[16:55] <kishore> m477: yup!
[16:55] <drostie> draik_: how is your internet connection set up on your computer, and does it work for at least some parts?
[16:55] <kishore> spectacular! how did you do it! :P
[16:56] <drostie> It's truly the pinnacle of modern art. ^_^
[16:57] <m477> kishore:  i told you i did upadte kde and when reboting it crashed
[16:57] <draik_> drostie: laptop (this connection) and desktop are on the same router that connects directly to the modem and onto my ISP; nothing special about it. The internet works for about 5 minutes. I'm running the updates and then I get nothing. The connection drops and Yakuake is there looking at me with zero movement in package downloads.
[16:57] <dromer> kishore: wow what?
 if the driver does not appear in the hardware   list, what should i do?
[16:58] <kishore> dromer: the image... m477 crash
[16:58] <choupeaux> slt tt lmonde
[16:59] <drostie> khirr: erm, google something like [nvidia such-and-so ubuntu] in order to find someone who has made it work before?
[16:59] <choupeaux> vous ete tous sur linux kubuntu
[16:59] <choupeaux> ??
[16:59] <draik_> !fr | choupeaux
 in ubuntu it works, detects new driver but in kubuntu with kde 4.2 i didnt see that
[17:00] <pteague> anybody have any ideas on this?  trying to compile a plasmoid - http://pastebin.com/m75f086fd
[17:00] <drostie> draik_: okay, it starts and then stops. Good. go to K > Applications > System > KSystemLogs .
[17:00] <draik_> drostie: I'll let you know if I can get that far
[17:00] <drostie> Watch the logs while the connection drops, see what's happening.
[17:01] <drostie> khirr: is this jaunty with 4.2 or intrepid with 4.2?
 i'm using jaunty
[17:01] <draik_> OK, I got that far. Let me see
[17:02] <drostie> khirr: hm. And the hardware that you're trying to install is...?
[17:02] <draik_> System froze, drostie. But I see this...
 nvidia serie FX
[17:02] <draik_> NetworkManager <WARN> connection_get_settings_cb(): Connection_get_...
[17:02] <dromer> khirr: and eh, what does it have to do with me? :)
[17:02] <sharkk> someone know a nice(and hopefully working :)) graphical software to manage boot services(sysvinit) for kubuntu/kde? thanks
[17:02] <dromer> s/khirr/kishore
[17:03] <dromer> ugh
[17:03] <khirr> uhm?
[17:03] <draik_> kernel [ 132.733043] NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 16, Head 00000000...
[17:03] <dromer> so, hmm, I'm having trouble withe the tv-out of my geforce 6200: I can only get b/w
[17:03] <draik_> drostie: system froze as I was attempting to resize so I can view the error message.
[17:04] <drostie> draik_: okay, so instead of logging on the normal way, maybe it's best if you log into a TTY.
[17:05] <draik_> drostie: OK. I will do that. Desktop almost at login prompt
[17:05] <draik_> drostie: BTW, it happens there too
[17:05] <drostie> The sudden crashes also happen in a TTY?
[17:06] <draik_> I lose the internet connection, then I'm stuck with nothing to do at that point but reboot.
[17:06] <drostie> Yes. But the system logs can be read from a TTY with nano and the /var/log directory.
[17:06] <m477> how open tar.gz ? what was the command
[17:06] <draik_> Yup. I'm going to do that once it happens
[17:07] <pteague> dromer: might be able to find somebody to help in #ubuntu-mythtv
[17:07] <drostie> (I'm actually surprised that you've got working wireless in the first place on the TTYs, to be perfectly honest. Mine doesn't work until I run KNetworkManager. --_--;;)
[17:07] <dromer> pteague: I'm not doing anything with mythtv
[17:07] <pteague> just thinking they may have the experience with dealing with the hardware/drivers
[17:08] <dromer> hmm
[17:12] <aponte> hello
[17:13] <m477> how to install official nvidia driver ('x server is running' error)? something with runlevels? how to do that?
[17:14] <pteague> m477: do you know if you need the nvidia-glx or the nvidia-glx-new driver?
[17:15] <m477> pteague what's the diffrence ?
[17:15] <draik_> drostie: I'm looking at the log. I have NetowrkManager starting up, then I have eth0 being unmanaged. That's the end of the log for the NetworkManager
[17:17] <drostie> That's the last thing that happens before your internet and/or computer crashes?
[17:17] <draik_> Seems that computer crashes within KDE.
[17:18] <draik_> I have OpenBox. I'll give that a shot, but I have to reboot to regain my internet connection.
[17:18] <draik_> I'm still within TTY1 and no crash.
[17:18] <pteague> m477: this is part of the description for the nvidia-glx-new package - "...If you have a TNT, TNT2, or older GeForce, you may need the nvidia-glx-legacy package instead of this one. If you have a GeForce4, you may need the nvidia-glx package."
[17:19] <pteague> m477: so i guess anything older than a geforce4 uses the nvidia-glx-legacy, geforce4 uses nvidia-glx, & anything newer uses nvidia-glx-new
[17:20] <m477> pteague so i need nvidia-glx-new
[17:20] <draik_> drostie: Take that back, no OpenBox yet.
[17:20] <drostie> draik_: hm. Does the old Xorg log say anything about a crash?
[17:21] <draik_> I'll check
[17:21] <drostie> Because if the crash only happens when KDE is running...
[17:21] <pteague> m477: k & you'll also want to install nvidia-settings as well to set things up
[17:21] <drostie> (This is why I don't like Intrepid/4.2 systems, though. --_--;;)
[17:21] <m477> pteague ok
[17:23] <pteague> m477: after installing both, run `sudo nvidia-xconfig` to prep the xorg.conf file... & then `sudo nvidia-settings` should give you a gui to make changes
[17:23] <drostie> While there are people around, how do I add stretchable blank space to a panel, to prevent, e.g., the clock from scaling to half the screen width? Or do I just need to break these things off into separate panels?
[17:24] <pteague> drostie: good question... i want to know as well :)
[17:24] <draik_> drostie: /var/log/Xorg.0.log doesn't have any errors. A bunch of (II) and (**).
[17:24] <m477> pteague which i need ? nvidia-glx-96 nvidia-glx-180 nvidia-glx-177 nvidia-glx-173 nvidia-glx-71
[17:25] <m477> pteague they are availible
[17:25] <cuznt> is it ok to remove the experimental i used to upgrade to 4.2 the 1st time?
[17:25] <draik_> drostie: I have a segfault with nepomukservices. That's possibly the cause since it also handles networking (IIRC).
[17:26] <draik_> I'm currently using KDE/Openbox. So far so good.
[17:26] <drostie> draik_: I dunno; nepomuk is always generating crash reports on my KDE 4.2 install, but it has never taken down my computer. :-\
[17:28] <pteague> m477: do any of them say recommended ?
[17:30] <thomas> Hello, I have a Creative Live Cam (VF0420) and I want to use it in Kopete. The ov51x-jpeg is installed, but I can not see a picture in Kopete. Can anyone help me?
[17:32] <cfenix> i need some help, i can't see the text on the menues of my windows
[17:33] <m477> pteague Package nvidia-glx-new has no installation candidate
[17:33] <draik_> drostie: I think KDE/Openbox is the solution
[17:33] <draik_> No crash and the install is still going on
[17:34] <ngirard> Ha all. Have you noticed a recent trouble happening when setting the zoom to "fit page" in Adobe reader ? It used to work, and now the resulting zoom is a little bit too high for the page to fit entirely in the window
[17:36] <ngirard> I'm using kde 4.2 in Intrepid and haven't changed the version of Adobe reader, so it definitely has to be related to a changed in kwin, plasma or another kde component
[17:36] <pteague> m477: which nvidia chipset is it & who is the manufacturer of the card?
[17:38] <m477> pteague it is nvidia 8600 m gs , sorry i dont know what chipset is there
[17:38] <pteague> that is the chipset :)
[17:38] <pteague> who's the manufacturer of the board? evga, msi, etc ?
[17:39] <cfenix> i can't see the text on menu of Wine and aMSN, anyone know what can i do?
[17:39] <pteague> the brand on the box
[17:41] <m477> pteague i supoust it is asus
[17:42] <draik_> drostie: Spoke too soon. It froze
[17:44] <LoKi[MK]> hallo
[17:44] <LoKi[MK]> jemand da ?
[17:44] <overlord> I just switched from Gnome to KDE. Can anyone tell me how do I edit start-up apps ?
[17:47] <pteague> m477: sorry, pizza showed up & geeze is it cold outside
[17:47] <GWild> overlord: I place files in .kde/Autostart
[17:47] <GWild> overlord: to start yakuake, conky, etc
[17:47] <drostie> I could use some pizza right now. ^_^
[17:47] <LoKi[MK]> hallo ?
[17:48] <overlord> hmm
[17:48] <drostie> !hi | LoKi[MK]
[17:48] <m477> pteague so what now mate ?
[17:48] <GWild> drostie: I'll have a slice of pepperonni please
[17:48] <pteague> drostie: got a p'zone, not gonna last very long :(
[17:48] <LoKi[MK]> give it a german IRC Kubuntu chanel ?
[17:48] <XiXaQ> does anyone know of plasmoids which can display the next few tasks, meetings, etc from kontact?
[17:49] <GWild> overlord: you can also edit the session settings for restoration on restart
[17:49] <pteague> m477: when did it tell you it had no installation candidate? or was that it had no recommended driver?
[17:49] <drostie> yeah, well, I'm in a country where there are only two pizza options: something called "New York Pizza" (it's not), and Domino's.
[17:50] <overlord> GWild: Exactly how do I add an application to load at start up
[17:50] <drostie> The Domino's motto in this country is particularly delightful: "Man hungry. Ding-dong pizza.")
[17:50] <overlord> GWild: for ex. let's say Compiz or Emerald
[17:50] <pteague> lol
[17:50] <GWild> overlord: add a symlink to those apps
[17:51] <GWild> overlord: that what I have done and it seems to work fine
[17:51] <jussi01> !offtopic | drostie
[17:51] <overlord> GWild: and just how do i do that ?
[17:51] <pteague> anybody know if there's a way to tell which nvidia driver is actually loaded?
[17:51] <m477> pteague http://paste.ubuntu.com/124852/
[17:52] <GWild> overlord: create a symlink in .kde/Autostart which points to /usr/bin/your_app
[17:52] <pteague> oh wow... which version of kubuntu are you using?
[17:52] <jussi01> pteague: dmesg | grep nvidia (that will likely say....)
[17:52] <drostie> The most frustrating thing about Quassel compared to KVirc, is that clicking on links in Quassel doesn't open them. >_<
[17:52] <GWild> overlord: for example my 'yakuake' symlink points to /usr/bin/yakuake
[17:52] <overlord> GWild: okay.
[17:53] <jussi01> drostie: unless you are in an ancient version, it does
[17:53] <overlord> oh..and I have another problem.
[17:53] <overlord> My Kopete chat window. It has gone into fullscreen mode. Somewhat like Firefox. How do I fix that ?
[17:54] <GWild> overlord: I would say to right click on the title bar and go into the window behaviour settings
[17:54] <drostie> jussi01: 0.4.0 is in the repos; that's what I have.
[17:54] <pteague> jussi01: nope, just complains that nvidia module license tains the kernel & "NVRM loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module   169.12" :(
[17:54] <pteague> i'm thinking the 8600 uses the 177
[17:54] <jussi01> drostie: hrm, well link clicking works here
[17:54] <GWild> overlord: "Configure Window Behaviour"
[17:54] <overlord> GWild: Thanks. I'll try that.
[17:55] <GWild> overlord: then "Window specific"
[17:55] <pteague> windows is going to reboot my game box here in a second & i'll have grub load linux & see if i can figure out which package it installed
[17:55] <pteague> m477: are you using hardy, intrepid, or jausty?
[17:55] <m477> pteague interpid
[17:56] <m477> ok im gonna instal 177
[17:56] <drostie> jussi01: weird. When I mouseover the link, I get this pretty-but-useless thumbnail version. I then double-click it to visit the link, and it selects the link text instead. How did you configure it to follow the link?
[17:57] <pteague> m477: k, this box has hardy... i'll wait for game box to reboot, but i could have sworn i installed nvidia-glx-new ... hmm...  do you have the partner &/or restricted sources added?
[18:00] <m477> pteague restricted
[18:00] <drostie> oh. I see. Quassel is just backwards. Single clicks open, double clicks select, rather than vice versa. >_<;;
[18:03] <m477> pteague http://paste.ubuntu.com/124860/
[18:04] <overlord> GWild: Okay. I Fixed the Kopete problem. I edited the startup sessions using the sessions tools from Gnome to remove Compiz. I guess there was some conflict.
[18:05] <overlord> GWild: But I couldn't find "Configure Window Behaviour"
[18:07] <pteague> yep, i have the 177 drivers installed...  m477 try kmenu -> system -> hardware drivers
[18:09] <m477> pteague i have 177 activated
[18:09] <GWild> overlord: no "Configure Window Behaviour" by right clicking on the title bar?
[18:09] <GWild> overlord: no "Configure Window Behavior..." by right clicking on the title bar?*
[18:10] <overlord> GWild: Title bar was missing at that point. And I still can't find it
[18:10] <m477> pteague how can i check if i have 3c acceleration ? in console
[18:10] <m477> pteague 3d* im sorry
[18:10] <pteague> m477: k, run nvidia-xconfig & it should prepare the xorg.conf
[18:11] <pteague> m477: 3d i'm not sure about
[18:11] <m477> pteague and what now ?
[18:12] <GWild> hmm
[18:12] <overlord> Also, I would like to know: I want to open a folder by double clicking it. And I'm unable to find this in the "Configure Dolphin"  page. How do I do this ?
[18:12] <pteague> m477: did it give you the same error message as before?
[18:13] <Wazmyn> overlord:  look in system settings
[18:13] <m477> pteague no , now i have to do http://paste.ubuntu.com/124872/
[18:13] <Wazmyn> overlord: keyboard&mouse ->> mouse
[18:14] <overlord> Wazmyn: Thanks.
[18:14] <Wazmyn> overlord: sure. But if you leave it on one click for 2 weeks, you'll wonder why anybody would ever use the double click :)
[18:15] <overlord> GWild: Oh. I can see "Window Behaviour" & "Window Specific Behaviour" in system settings.
[18:15] <overlord> Wazmyn: Thanks for the tip. I'l leave it to single click now. Let's see ! =]
[18:16] <m477> pteague im in etc/x11/xorg.conf i have to write up there something yes ?
[18:16] <pteague> m477: ah, ok...  let me paste my xorg file... hmm...  what was the cli for pasting config files...
[18:16] <draik_> This is not a technical question, but I'll ask anyway... If I cough, should I be seeing something that resembles small shooting stars or spider web lines of light?
[18:17] <m477> pteague cli ? what does it mean ?
[18:17] <pteague> command line interface... i.e. terminal
[18:17] <draik_> drostie: So I no longer have the Internet issue. I still have the freezing issue.
[18:17] <Wazmyn> draik when you caough you temporarly disrupt blood flow to your brain. You're seeing the effects of that
[18:18] <pteague> m477: check http://pastebin.com/fb3214d2
[18:18] <pteague> against your xorg.conf
[18:18] <draik_> Wazmyn: Lovely. Well, as long as I'm not halucinating anything, I suppose that's fine with me.
[18:18] <Wazmyn> <-- sinus infection. I was having the same thing. Wife's a Vet, she explained it all to me
[18:19] <pteague> sinuses are fun... speaking of which *gobbles a claritin-d*
[18:20] <Loctrice> well, I made it
[18:20] <dr_Willis> :0 get one of those little 'tea pots' to wash out your nose. :)
[18:20] <Loctrice> anyone give me some info with kubuntu? I got this channel from the help page
[18:20] <Wazmyn> Everyone keeps telling me that, dr_Willis
[18:20] <Wazmyn> Loctrice: just ask your questions
[18:20] <m477> pteague i did what now ?
[18:21] <draik_> !ask | Loctrice
[18:21] <dr_Willis> Wazmyn,  ive not tried one.. but guys at work sware by them.. Im going to try one whenever i can track one doen thats not outragous priced.
[18:21] <Loctrice> I have tried debian, and now kubuntu. I cant seem to get the desktop to load. it has some messy graphics on F7 but no environment that I can use
[18:21] <pteague> or spicy food...  i like mexican & oriental... the extra hot... when i'm having bad problems with sinuses
[18:21]  * Wazmyn agrees with dr_Willis
[18:21] <m477> pteague now i have to restart x server ?
[18:22] <pteague> m477: actually, if you copied my xorg.conf to yours i think all you need to do is restart X unless there's something specific you want to try... that's off my box with the 8600 in it
[18:22] <_Maikon_> hello .i got a nice conection, but when i'm downloading a package from  repositories(via apt-get or any gui) i  can't a good conection, my downloads are at 50kb/s
[18:22] <draik_> pteague: spicy food with clear your ins and outs
[18:23] <draik_> Spicy Food, your body's I/O port cleaner!
[18:24] <_Maikon_> any idea where is my problem?
[18:24] <Loctrice> so why cant I get a desktop if its supposed to have one with my install?
[18:24] <dr_Willis> pteague,  a little habanaro pepper under the tounge does wonders eh? :)
[18:25] <draik_> dr_Willis: What teapots did you mean?
[18:25] <dr_Willis> draik_,  the 'neti pots'  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8sDIbRAXlg   - they look like little teapots the kids would play with
[18:26] <pteague> dr_Willis: either that or maybe it's the extra burning makes you cry it all out? ;)
[18:26] <pteague> lol draik_
[18:27] <pteague> woot, i'm installing pastebinit on all my boxes
[18:27] <draik_> LOL. That's funny. I can see this being used otherwise.
[18:28] <dr_Willis> draik_,  :) like the kids having 'tea' :)
[18:28] <pteague> oh yuck
[18:29] <Wazmyn> Loctrice: did the desktop work with the live cd?
[18:30] <draik_> dr_Willis: I can imaging kids being very experimental and use special salt with this thing
[18:30] <fkm> Is there a way to get the 'old' Adept back on a Kubuntu Interpid?
[18:30] <pteague> lol
[18:30] <Wazmyn> fkm:  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[18:30] <Wazmyn> :)
[18:31] <fkm> I don't like synaptic either :-(
[18:31] <Wazmyn> fkm: it's better than the new adept
[18:31] <fkm> That's right :-)
[18:31] <dr_Willis> I always use synaptic
[18:31] <draik_> I use CLI
[18:31] <dr_Willis> 'pacman -S synaptic' :P
[18:31] <fkm> I switched to the console for now
[18:32] <pteague> lol off that youtube link i followed "white trash neti pot"...
[18:33] <fkm> So there's no way to get to back to the good old Adept vom Feisty? :-|
[18:34] <dr_Willis> proberly not
[18:34] <pteague> my preference is the update-notifier from gnome... i can have it show me what needs to be updated without me having to put in a password... so if i figure it's not worth it i'll just leave it for later
[18:35] <m477> pteague hey when i overwrite my xorg by your kde wont open to me i had to load backup file
[18:36] <dr_Willis>  /join #netipot
[18:36] <dr_Willis> oops :)
[18:36] <pteague> ok, that's not good
[18:36] <pteague> lol
[18:36] <pteague>  /join #knottypot
[18:37] <afonso_> I am navigate konqueror no navigate
[18:37] <Wazmyn> anybody else using quassel?
[18:37] <pteague> m477: k, if you're still at a point asking for a driver, just add the `Driver "nvidia"` line to your xorg.conf & see if that works
[18:38] <fkm> Hmmm... If I wanted to start a (or at least sort of a) petition to get them to return to the old version: where should I do that?  :-)
[18:38] <Wazmyn> fkm: i'm sure they're working on bringing the new one up to the full functionality of the old one
[18:39] <m477> pteague but nvidia setting works
[18:39] <m477> pteague i have all the time "Driver "nvidia""
[18:39] <pteague> ah, ok
[18:40] <m477> pteague so what i have to change in that file
[18:40] <m477> pteague if i have to do anything ? now
[18:41] <pteague> m477: if it's working with the line about the nvidia driver i think that's all you need...  if you want to mess around & set some extra settings you can run `sudo nvidia-settings`
[18:42] <fkm> Wazmyn, Ok :-) Thank you for the info!
[18:42] <pteague> m477: just be sure to make a backup of xorg.conf before you do... always easier to go back to something known to work than to try to start over
[18:42] <afonso_> entrei nesta sala ou canal ou seja lá como o pessoal Linux se comunica, estou prestando atenção
[18:43] <m477> pteague ok thx cya homie
[18:43] <m477> :D
[18:43] <pteague> np, sorry it took so long :)
[18:47] <m477> how can i check in terminal if i have 3d acceleration ?
[18:48] <dr_Willis> run Quake3 ? :)
[18:48] <dr_Willis> heh. there is some command i recall - but i forget what it is..
[18:48] <dr_Willis> glxinfo or similer.
[18:48] <m477> i think is easier way :P
[18:48] <BluesKaj> m477, glxinfo | grep direct
[18:49] <m477> BluesKaj: direct rendering is acceleration ?
[18:51] <dr_Willis> I think so.. :) but theres no guarentees it actually does work.. untill ya try the 3d stuff in a program.
[18:51] <darrell> anyone got any good advice on buying a wifi copier?
[18:51] <m477> ok thx
[18:51]  * dr_Willis wonders what a wifi copier is...
[18:52] <dr_Willis> you mean a  wireless printer/scanner?
[18:53] <BluesKaj> m477, http://blogs.koolwal.net/2008/04/28/how-to-enabling-3d-acceleration-under-debian-linux/
[18:59] <Valkyria> please need help with kubuntu 8.10 im new in linux!!!!
[18:59] <Valkyria> someone???
[19:00] <dr_Willis> Well..  #1 - state the actual problem  to the channel.
[19:01] <Valkyria> i dont know how to configure this to have my laptop with an additional monitor
[19:01] <m477> is vmware free under linux?
[19:02] <dr_Willis> Configure 'what' exactly?
[19:02] <dr_Willis> There is a free vmware version, and free virtualbox also. I recall.
[19:02] <dr_Willis> !vmware
[19:02] <koperton> Valkyria: is your driver video that you have to configure
[19:02] <Valkyria> look, first, sorry about my english... im from chile
[19:02] <koperton> !graphiccard
[19:02] <Valkyria> mmm
[19:02] <Valkyria> i can see both monitors
[19:02] <koperton> Valkyria: mm there is espagnol channel
[19:03] <koperton> !es
[19:03] <koperton> Valkyria: you language is spagnol?
[19:05] <darrell> yeah dr_Willis a wireless printer/scanner
[19:05] <m477> ubottu: they has 3d acceleration ?
[19:06] <pteague> !br
[19:06] <m477> dr_Willis: is there 3d acceleration working in virtualbox or QEmu? or only in vmware
[19:07] <quassel208> can i get deb on my linux distro ?
[19:08] <koperton> quassel208: ?what's your problem ?
[19:08] <pteague> m477: i think vmware is best bet currently for 3d support... although i'm not sure any have very good directx support... i'm surprised i can actually watch netflix movies in vmware now
[19:08] <quassel208> if i can get apt on other linux systeem
[19:09] <m477> but vmware is not GPL
[19:10] <dr_Willis> m477,  from that i gather - it onluy works in vmware in special cases.
[19:11] <m477> aha
[19:11] <dr_Willis> I wouldent expect to be able to play games at 100% speed :)
[19:12] <m477> btw can you recomend so program like compiz
[19:12] <m477> the most effectiv
[19:12] <m477> effective*
[19:12] <dr_Willis> 'like compiz' ?
[19:12] <dr_Willis> like compiz in what way?
[19:13] <m477> or is it the only option for 3dcubes etc..
[19:13] <m477> the best effects etc
[19:13] <pteague> dr_Willis: i can't believe some of the  youtube vids for that teapot... cayenne pepper & another with coca-cola
[19:13] <m477> and pritty stabile
[19:14] <dr_Willis> pteague,  fizzy! and acid! :(
[19:15] <dr_Willis> m477,  i dont bend over too far backwards for useless eye candy. KDE4 has its own 'effects' that work very well
[19:16] <pteague> oh geeze... & the link off coca-cola has mt dew... >_<  what are these people smoking before they're doing this?
[19:16] <dr_Willis> what next? battery acid and Vinager?
[19:16] <pteague> lol
[19:17] <dr_Willis> A Nasel Enema!
[19:17] <pteague> tabasco sauce...
[19:17] <pteague> srsly
[19:17] <dr_Willis> A Nassal Inferno
[19:17] <dr_Willis> A Nassel Inferno
[19:18] <pteague> the same guy that did the mt dew... crazy radio djs
[19:21] <dr_Willis> NETI@home Version 2.0 is now available! Packed with plenty of enhancements and optimizations NETI@home Version 2.0 is the result of much development. We think you'll enjoy!
[19:21] <dr_Willis> Heh.. oh wait thats not a neti pot!
[19:21] <dr_Willis> :)
[19:22] <pteague> hehe
[19:22] <wad> I'm new to ubuntu... quick question on networking. It's connecting just fine to my wired and wireless networks, but I'm not sure how to connect to work via the vpn. I click the network icon on the panel, and it has a tab for VPN types of network connections, but the ADD button is disabled. What's up with that?
[19:23] <pteague> wad: is it the at&t vpn or does it use a standard vpn?
[19:23] <wad> pteague, hmm... Not sure.
[19:23] <wad> I think it's a standard one.
[19:24] <pteague> wad: with windows do you set it up via network connections or you have a whole program you install ?
[19:24] <wad> pteague, I never use windows.
[19:24] <wad> So I have no clue.
[19:24] <wad> I've been connecting to it via linux for the past 3 years.
[19:24] <pteague> ah, ok
[19:25] <wad> Here's how I've been doing it:
[19:25] <pteague> probably using openvpn
[19:25] <wad> with the program vpnc
[19:25] <wad> I have the old laptop here, so I can connect with it any time.
[19:25] <wad> (I'm moving to a new laptop, with Ubuntu this time)
[19:26] <wad> With Kubuntu (which I came from) I didn't use any of the provided networking tools, I wrote scripts to manually do everything.
[19:27] <wad> That's because the network manager under Kubuntu didn't work for whatever reason.
[19:27] <wad> But I'm giving Ubuntu a chance to do everything automatically.... so far, it's pretty simple.
[19:27] <pteague> wad: i'm guessing you used openvpn previously...  you can search for vpn with your package manager... if you're specifically wanting the network manager to handle it i think you'll need network-manager-openvpn
[19:27] <wad> I just don't understand why the ADD button on the VPN tab is disabled.
[19:28] <wad> pteague, hmm. Okay, I'll poke at it.
[19:28] <pteague> possibly because the plugin for vpns hasn't been installed which may be that package... i hope
[19:28] <wad> ah, okay.
[19:28] <wad> I'll check the packages...
[19:28] <rafael> kurumin
[19:28] <pteague> if it's cisco you may need network-manager-vpnc instead
[19:29] <wad> Oh, I think it might be cisco... there were several ways we could connect to it.
[19:29] <wad> Ah, yes! It's cisco.
[19:31] <wad> Ah, perfect! Now I have an ADD button! Thanks pteage!
[19:31]  * wad drops off IRC to fiddle with network settings.
[19:33] <jschall_> i'm on kubuntu 64bit, and i got flash in konqueror. only problem is, flash objects are usually just solid black or solid white
[19:33] <jschall_> works fine in firefox
[19:34] <jschall_> is there any way to fix it?
[19:34] <Guest95988> to get gaim - sudo apt-get instal gaim?
[19:34] <jschall_> it's pidgin now
[19:35] <bishopz> so i can connect to pidgin via my shell?
[19:35] <AndyCrawford> there is a lib purple shell extension so you can get at purple (pidgin backend) features from shell, afaik
[19:36] <bishopz> ahhh tyvm
[19:36] <AndyCrawford> bishopz:  And there is a command line version of Pidgin based on it.
[19:36] <pteague> gaim is now pidgin
[19:36] <bishopz> thanks guys brb
[19:36] <bishopz> oh one more thing!!!
[19:37] <bishopz> anyone know a decent ftp
[19:37] <jschall_> konqueror
[19:37] <jschall_> probably does it fine
[19:37] <pteague> konqueror
[19:37] <jschall_> just use ftp:// sftp:// etc
[19:37] <bishopz> is it user friendly, ive seen it, never used it
[19:38] <pteague> what's that 1 opensource 1 that's good on windows? fireftp or something?
[19:38] <jschall_> there's some mozilla one, idk what it is
[19:38] <jschall_> windows explorer supports it!
[19:38] <jschall_> i think
[19:38] <jschall_> maybe
[19:38] <jschall_> probably not very well...
[19:38] <jussi01> fireftp isnt bad
[19:39] <patrizia> hi guys
[19:39] <jschall_> there's also this really great one called ftp, you run it from the command line
[19:39] <AndyCrawford> bishopz:  I use gftp
[19:39] <pteague> lol, windows is iffy, but doesn't support sftp afaik...  except a particular job i held for 2 months i've not used ftp in several years... plain text password ftl
[19:39] <patrizia> just want to know, how can I make a shortcut of the games folder (or card games in specific) on the desktop or add a folder view for just that?
[19:39] <pteague> lol jschall_
[19:39] <AndyCrawford> nice 2 panel (midnight commander style) ftp client that I use for all my hosting needs, it works well.
[19:39] <bishopz> andy: thanks im going to read into that as well
[19:39] <AndyCrawford> np
[19:39] <pteague> still not sure what midnight commander style is
[19:40] <patrizia> using kde4.2 btw
[19:40] <jschall_> so anyway, flash, konqueror, doesn't work, does in firefox, any solution?
[19:40] <AndyCrawford> Konqueror will do ftp as well as other protocols, and is fine for a little use, but if you use ftp as much as I do, I need something more capable.
[19:40] <jschall_> oh, forgot 64bit
[19:41] <AndyCrawford> Midnight Commander was an old shell program that gave you 2 file system views, left and right.
[19:41] <pteague> patrizia: i think you can just copy the *.desktop file from /usr/share to your ~/Desktop , but don't quote me on that
[19:41] <AndyCrawford> Many programs are modeled in that image
[19:41] <AndyCrawford> I don't generally like that.  I like single windows, ala Windows Explorer style.  But for ftp twin view is nice.
[19:41] <AndyCrawford> you can, if you have a .desktop file, E can use that.
[19:41] <jschall_> on the subject of konqueror, it's really not ready for real use except on laptops until it supports mouse4/mouse5 back/forward
[19:42] <AndyCrawford> I don't have .desktop files for locations I wanted, nor many applications I wanted, so I just symlinked.
[19:42] <pteague> jschall_: i'm in the same boat... it seems flash works sometimes in konqueror, but not often... the fault lies with adobe i think as they've yet to produce a 64bit flash player... what we're really using is a 32bit wrapped flash player
[19:42] <AndyCrawford> jschall_:  I agree.  Konqueror or Dolphin, whatever modern KDE file manager, is not intended for major FTP work and the like.
[19:43] <tuxi> pteague: the 64-bit beta of flash 10 seems to work well for me
[19:44] <pteague> i'm still on kde3...  i like the tree view that seems to have been around for forever in konqueror... anyways, with multiple tabs & 2 konqueror windows if i need a gui they work... i tend to use rsync over ssh though
[19:44] <patrizia> pteague I dont see a .desktop in there
[19:45] <patrizia> pteague yea I have no idea what you're talking about
[19:46] <patrizia> pteague ok I see the files but they arent organized in any way, no way to copy a shortcut of the menu option 'Games' ?
[19:46] <patrizia> I dont want to copy each shortcut one by one
[19:47] <tuxi> patrizia: which version of KDE?
[19:47] <patrizia> 4.2
[19:47] <tuxi> you could add a folder widget and put all the .desktop files in there
[19:47] <pteague> patrizia: sorry, i'm new to kde4 & i've not seen any .desktop files inside ~ unless i made them & kde4 doesn't seem to like drag & drop copy off of the kmenu
[19:48] <tuxi> look in /usr/share/app-install
[19:48] <patrizia> I dont want to copy stuff, I alredy saw the shortcuts
[19:49] <tuxi> sorry, the only options I see are copying or using symlinks
[19:49] <patrizia> k thx
[19:49] <patrizia> hopefully they add that
[19:53] <athlon1> How can I install help for some programs? ex: Program adept_manager, press help button, a message sanind that adept_manager/index.html does not exists.
[19:53] <athlon1> How can I install help for some programs? ex: Program adept_manager, press help button, a message saing that adept_manager/index.html does not exists.
[19:59] <dr_Willis> some programs may not have the help docs  made yet..
[19:59] <dr_Willis> or they are looking in the wrong place
[20:00] <dr_Willis>  try 'locate adept_manager'   in a terminal to see if the docs are installed in some other location
[20:08] <athlon1> I tried it and there is a directory called /usr/share/doc/adept-manager, but only licence file is there.
[20:09] <elirips> Hello. Since using Kubuntu 8.10 I am having problems with name-resolving: From applications like konqueror, firefox, konversation, etc. name-resolving does not work, but if I do a nslookup on the console it works. anyone an idea?
[20:12] <christian_> moin moin
[20:13] <XiXaQ> I'd like to display my gmail inbox as a plasmoid on my desktop. How do I do this? I read somewhere that it could be done, but not how- :)
[20:13] <XiXaQ> actually, I'd like to view other inboxes via imap too, and my calendar and todos too, if it's possible.
[20:16] <christian_> jemand aus germany
[20:22] <goofey> XiXaQ: i think you can add google desktop widgets to kde 4.2 - i bet they have a "view gmail" widget
[20:24] <XiXaQ> oh.. Google widgets aren't the same as the stuff you have on iGoogle?
[20:24] <dr_Willis> No they are not.
[20:25] <dr_Willis> some are similer. :)
[20:29] <XiXaQ> I love the useful plasmoids, but there seems to be an overwhelming number of eyecandy plasmoids.
[20:29] <XiXaQ> percentage, I meant.
[20:29] <marko_> hi r u willing to help d bigginer
[20:29] <marko_> ?
[20:29] <dr_Willis> Theres a usefull one?
[20:30] <XiXaQ> the folder view stuff is really nice.
[20:30] <marko_> i am experiencing problems with my kubuntu OS
[20:30] <marko_> :(
[20:31] <dr_Willis> Step #1 - ask an answerable question. :)
[20:31] <marko_> okay
[20:31] <marko_> i am having troubles with the drivers for the ATI Radeon xpress 1150
[20:31] <XiXaQ> no, step #1 is to not write sms-speak. #2 is to ask real questions.
[20:32] <Brick_Farmer> what sort of troubles
[20:32] <marko_> well there is no 3d ?
[20:32] <Brick_Farmer> are you using the restricted drivers, or just the default
[20:33] <marko_> restricted drivers
[20:33] <marko_> offered by kubuntu
[20:33] <XiXaQ> well. Got to head for home. Thanks for helping out and have a nice day. :)
[20:33] <marko_> in d hardware drivers
[20:33] <dr_Willis> ati and nvidia can be such a pain at times. sadly
[20:33] <Brick_Farmer> agreed
[20:33] <marko_> i look on some serbian forums and they explained me what can be done
[20:34] <marko_> but to me it looks so complex
[20:34] <marko_> they say that i have to disable the composite extention
[20:34] <dr_Willis> If this is a new install.. You may want to try the next release - its being tested right now.. so it may be flakey, or it may work fine...
[20:35] <dr_Willis> disabling the composit extension - should be a exit to xorg.conf i think
[20:35] <marko_> http://www.ubuntu-rs.org/wiki/ATI_(fglrx)_na_Feisty-ju
[20:35] <marko_> here they explained it
[20:35] <marko_> what i have to do
[20:35] <marko_> eventho it is in serbian  have a look please
[20:35] <marko_> i think it might give u d idea about my problem
[20:35] <marko_> u might understand it
[20:36] <marko_> or u think it is too complex
[20:36] <Brick_Farmer> translated: http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu-rs.org%2Fwiki%2FATI_(fglrx)_na_Feisty-ju&sl=sr&tl=en&history_state0=
[20:36] <marko_> what should i o in ur opinion
[20:36] <dr_Willis> Looks rather straight forward to me.
[20:37] <Brick_Farmer> follow the comands
[20:37] <dr_Willis> #1 steo says to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste in those lines at the end.
[20:37] <marko_> wait
[20:38] <marko_> before i do that
[20:38] <marko_> do u have any other suggestions?
[20:38] <marko_> perhaps some better ideas?
[20:38] <Brick_Farmer> I have an NVidia, so no clue.
[20:38] <dr_Willis> you could try the next relase of Ubuntu/Kubuntu if you want.
[20:39] <dr_Willis> or not use the fglrx drivers.. just use the 'ati' ones.. it will be slower.. but  should work
[20:39] <marko_> look i installed soem drivers
[20:39] <marko_> but whne i type glxinfo this is what pops out
[20:40] <marko_> name of display: :0.0
[20:40] <marko_> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[20:40] <marko_>   Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
[20:40] <marko_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
[20:40] <marko_>   Serial number of failed request:  12
[20:40] <marko_>   Current serial number in output stream:  12
[20:40] <marko_> marko@marko-laptop:~$
[20:40] <Brick_Farmer> try posting on Ubuntuforums
[20:40] <dr_Willis> Looks like a FAIL to me.
[20:40] <marko_> i know
[20:40] <kevin_> i run ny!
[20:41] <kevin_> anyone on here have torrenttech.org??! i cant add to irc>!??!!
[20:41] <dr_Willis> Try being a little more clear kevin_ ?
[20:41] <marko_> in step 8 of the link i posted
[20:42] <marko_> cd / usr / src
[20:42] <marko_> but what if i installed my driver from a usb what do i type in that case
[20:42] <kevin_> the irc is supposed to be, irc.torrenttech.org and ssl or w.e but i try and no dice xD
[20:43] <kevin_> i r just noobs xD
[20:43] <kevin_> lol
[20:43] <dr_Willis> marko_,   /usr/src is a system directory.. SPACES are improntant..
[20:44] <kevin_> k i figured it out, its actually not torrenttech.org for the irc its just torrentech.org lol, thxxx XD
[20:45] <marko_> 10x a lot any1s guys
[20:46] <marko_> my friends will help me about this thing tomorrow at d uni
[20:46] <marko_> it was kind of u... i appriciate ur effort :P
[20:46] <marko_> cya some other day when i will be bothering u about something else:P
[20:47] <kevin_> k people join this irc, irc.torrentech.org, and listen to dj badegg666 so pro he live!!!!
[20:47] <kevin_> no ssl xD
[20:51] <Loctrice> got a different version, still no desktop environment. anyone have any ideas why it wont load? it tries,but all i get is a blue screen
[20:52] <Dr_willis> make a new user.. see if it works fior the new user.
[20:52] <Dr_willis> im not clear on the whole problem.. You may want to rephrase the issue to the channel.
[20:54] <Loctrice> ok, I'm a new linux user. I dont know all the details for the setup. I tried to get debian, as a 32 bit system, and I got a wierd pixel screen instead of a desktop. I switched to kubuntu because it said its easier for windows users to use. I used wubi to download it and install it (it being kubuntu). the load splash screen came up, but the desktop failed to load. I went back to the F1 terminal screen and it eventually rebooted the 
[20:55] <Loctrice> on the F7 screen I get a flat blue screen. its not "pixelly" or anything, but it is just a blue screen
[20:56] <Dr_willis> sounds like yoru video drivers are not isntalled propelry.
[20:56] <Dr_willis> I wouldent use wubi either. :) but thats justme
[20:57] <SuspectZero> hey there. if i want to format what files wouldi have to save to keep my settings?
[20:57] <Dr_willis> #1 - determine your video card and chipset.  would be the thing to do.
[20:57] <Loctrice> I'm not sure how to install them. I dont have an onboard video card, just a pci card
[20:57] <Dr_willis> SuspectZero:  depends on what settings you want to save.. stuiff in /etc/ or stuff in /home/USERNAME/
[20:57] <Dr_willis> Loctrice:  onboard or pci.. dosent matter..  they are installed the same way.. once you determine what you got.
[20:58] <SuspectZero> you know what. that was a stupid question. i can redo everything i need. never mind
[20:58] <SuspectZero> thanks for the help though
[20:58] <Loctrice> nvidia gforce 6800
[20:58] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[20:58] <Dr_willis> ive heard of some issues with the 6800.  You may want to check the forums also.
[20:59] <Dr_willis> My 8800 works great
[20:59] <Loctrice> *hitting the link now* thanks , thats a good start at least
[21:00] <Zarel_> When I start up Kubuntu (VM in VMWare Fusion), it always starts in a weird resolution, then fixes itself automatically when I click "Display" in System Settings.
[21:00] <Zarel_> Anyone know what the issue is?
[21:00] <Dr_willis> I always use virtualbox. so nope. :) no idea
[21:02] <raibenss> Hi, is there any experiments about kubuntu 8.10 on aspire one 8gb ssd version?
[21:05] <Dr_willis> theres several AAO + ubuntu foruims./guides and stuff.
[21:05] <Dr_willis> My AAO runs ubuntu great.
[21:05] <Dr_willis> compiz even works
[21:09] <castro> hi
[21:09] <anouar> hi every body
[21:09] <Brick_Farmer> sup?
[21:09] <anouar> can i ask a question ??
[21:10] <jussi01> !ask | anouar
[21:10] <anouar> i have a problem with 3D desktop
[21:11] <Brick_Farmer> so tell us the problem
[21:11] <anouar> all other fonctionnality in compiz work fine, but i can't make working the 3D desktop
[21:11] <anouar> i have an ATI graphic card
[21:11] <anouar> 5250 FireGL
[21:12] <jussi01> compiz or kwin?
[21:12] <anouar> no im in ubuntu and i have installed compiz for the desktop effect
[21:12] <Brick_Farmer> do you have the restricted driver ennabled?
[21:12] <jussi01> anouar: please join #ubuntu and ask then.
[21:13] <anouar> ok thank's
[21:33] <rizvan> little help with nvidia drivers
[21:35] <Brick_Farmer> what about?
[21:54] <khirr> is there something like zenity or gdialog for kubuntu?
[21:55] <Brick_Farmer> what sort of programs are those?
[21:55] <micheline> oi
[21:56] <_gunni_> Brick_Farmer: Zenity is a tool that allows you to display Gtk+ dialog boxes from the command line and through shell scripts. It is similar to gdialog ...
[21:57] <_gunni_> khirr: Seems like there  is "kdialog"
[21:57] <micheline> oi
[21:57] <wilbert> elo guyz
[21:57] <khirr> oh, i will  try
[21:57] <khirr> _gunni_ thanks, i wil try
[21:58] <wilbert> who can assesme somewhere to setup a wifi without the windows oriented setup cd????
[21:58] <micheline> Here are someone that speack portuguese?
[21:59] <wilbert> atleast a link
[21:59] <wilbert> ...
[21:59] <Brick_Farmer> wifi can usually be set up with networkmanager or Wicd. Look in Ubuntuforums.
[21:59] <wilbert> going
[21:59] <wilbert>   ty ty ty
[22:00] <oobe> micheline, i speak portuguese fluently
[22:00] <Brick_Farmer> yo hablo espanol un poco
[22:01] <_gunni_> !po micheline
[22:01] <oobe> portuguese is link spanglush no
[22:01] <_gunni_> !es micheline
[22:01] <micheline> Bus I need help!!!!
[22:01] <_gunni_> !pt
[22:02] <micheline> I don't speak english very well
[22:02] <_gunni_> !pt | micheline
[22:03] <micheline> Thank you.
[22:07] <Loctrice> I could use some more help with the desktop environment. I had some trouble getting my nvidia gforce 6800 driver to load. by following the manual I got from a help command on this sight, I eventually added a options section to my screen settings in the xorg.config. Now my monitor displays an error : dell S2209W please set input timing to 1920x1080@60Hz or some other supported setting. any ideas?
[22:07] <Loctrice> so the input timing is not supported by my monitor
[22:07] <micheline> People, That is a first time that I make linux kurumin. My system doesn't open MSN...Dou you can help me?
[22:08] <wojo_> yeee dziala
[22:08] <wojo_> zmiana rozdzielczosci nie pomogla
[22:08] <wojo_> ale dalem F6 i wykasowalem SPLASH i odpalil ladnie wszystko
[22:09] <Brick_Farmer> @lotrice: change the options in your xorg.conf to 1920x1080 for resolution and 60Hz for refresh rate
[22:09] <wojo_> nie wiecie tylko czemu nie moge kubuntu 7.10 updatnac ?
[22:09] <jussi01> !pl | wojo_
[22:10] <micheline> There is a brazilian here?
[22:10] <Loctrice> alright, thanks. I'll reboot and try that
[22:11] <inanimate> !br | micheline
[22:27] <rimvis> :}
[22:29] <wilbert_> i got a thread boy the wireless
[22:30] <wilbert_> a thread for the wireless but is for wireless cards.. not for the router
[22:38] <alarm> hello there. on previews kubuntu releases with kde3.5.x there was an option for external hdd devices to be mounted with read only. now (on kubuntu 8.10 kde 4.2) , when i plug in my external hdd , and open it , it is automounted with read/write access. how can i change that to mount it with read only option ?
[22:40] <Dr_willis> this is a ntfs filesuystem on teh drive?
[22:42] <alarm> yeap
[22:42] <alarm> the problem is that has nothing to do with fstab
[22:42] <alarm> i mount it through the tray icon that appears on the taskbar with the devices found
[22:43] <rimvis> :)
[22:43] <sparky> hello
[22:43] <rimvis> hi
[22:43] <alarm> as i say on previous releases you could go to the partition manager and set how you want your partitions to be mounted, read or write
[22:43] <sparky> I am having trouble and have no sound on Kubuntu 8.10
[22:44] <rimvis> i used ubuntu and problem no have :)
[22:44] <alarm> such option doesnt exist anymore. and i am wondering how i can change that. i got some data that do want them untouched , so read access is needed
[22:44] <sparky> rimvis: well thanks for your non-help
[22:44] <sparky> xd
[22:44] <rimvis> try search driver linuxs his computer sound card
[22:44] <rimvis> :D
[22:45] <alarm> sparky, oss , alsa installed ?
[22:45] <alarm> does dmesg | grep audio , show something ?
[22:45] <wilbert_> what is the Security Encryption (WPA-PSK)
[22:45] <sparky> alarm:  how to check?
[22:45] <alarm> sparky,  wifi protection
[22:46] <sparky> alarm: dmesg... shows nada
[22:46] <wilbert_> i set any key AND i pre give it??
[22:46] <alarm> sparky, give me a second
[22:46] <wilbert_> <<
[22:47] <sparky> k
[22:47] <sparky> thanks
[22:47] <alarm> wilbert_,  i do not know where you saw that so that i  can answer
[22:47] <wilbert_>   Security Encryption (WPA-PSK)
[22:47] <wilbert_>   Passphrase:   (8-63 characters)
[22:47] <wilbert_>   Key Lifetime:   (minutes)
[22:48] <alarm> are you trying to connect to a wireless network ?
[22:48] <wilbert_> im trying to set it up
[22:48] <rimvis> :)
[22:48] <wilbert_> cause the cd of the setup is windows oriented and im having a harsh time
[22:49] <alarm> the point is the password is being set on a router , not on the os
[22:49] <wilbert_> mhm
[22:50] <wilbert_> i wanna set the router
[22:50] <alarm> there we go then, what has this to do with kubuntu ? :P
[22:50] <wilbert_> so when  ppl home wanna get in they use it
[22:50] <wilbert_>  cause the router is a portable modem also
[22:50] <alarm> allright, wpa is your key that nodes will connect with on the router
[22:50] <wilbert_> have no idea man
[22:51] <wilbert_>  but u seem to kno bout it and ur actually helping me
[22:51] <wilbert_>  i really apretiate that :D:D:D:D
[22:51] <alarm> wilbert_,  i guess you should read your routers/modem manual . i am not familiar with each router interface
[22:51] <Guest51031> \LEAVE
[22:51] <wilbert_> lol
[22:52] <alarm> sparky,  still here ?
[22:52] <wilbert_> know any wireless forum
[22:52] <alarm> wilbert_,  the phrase asked there is the password you want to set
[22:52] <wilbert_> talk straight to the cd setup with low info on manual config
[22:52] <wilbert_> and the minutes?
[22:52] <alarm> what is the routers/modem model ?
[22:52] <alarm> sparky,  ?
[22:53] <alarm> key lifetime , is how long you want this password to last. there must be info about it . for example '0' or 'empty' should keep it for ever
[22:53] <wilbert_> axesstel mv400 3G
[22:53] <wilbert_> k
[22:53] <sparky> yes
[22:54] <alarm> sparky,  open your system settings
[22:55] <alarm> wilbert_,  http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:rwosWZUzvhwJ:support.nmt.net/bin/customer/getAttachment/8795-njsoUpsk1THuJX4Cw3K9FheNaSRLFzZSAaZkhhn82UssHeW3ZnUtnZ7fzPQ46xEx-0/MV400%2520Series_Manual_English.pdf+axesstel+mv400+3G+manual&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
[22:56] <alarm> make a search there for "WPA-PSK" you will find what you need
[22:56] <sparky> alarm: ok im there
[22:56] <alarm> sparky,  computer administration -> multimedia
[22:56] <SJr> Knetworkmanager cannot see any wireless networks, but networkmanager in GNOME can see a crap load, so does iwlist, any ideas?
[22:57] <alarm> sparky,  seeing any devices available there ?
[22:57] <sparky> alarm: im on kde 4
[22:58] <alarm> is there a change on kde4  to kde4.2 ? sorry :?
[22:58] <SJr> I found kde 4.2 more mature
[22:59] <sparky> alarm: hda intel stac92xx
[22:59] <alarm> lovely
[22:59] <sparky> under music
[22:59] <alarm> just that ? no other entry ? if you go to Audio Output it should list them all
[23:00] <sparky> alarm: then ?Pulseaudio (does that EVER work) and then stac92xx again
[23:01] <alarm> so your problem is you never got audio ? for example kde starts you dont hear anything ? play mp3 and you dont hear anything ? or what
[23:01] <sparky> no sound
[23:01] <sparky> last entry under music says front speakers
[23:02] <sparky> backend shows xine
[23:02] <alarm> a really stupid question . does Kmix appear on your taskbar ? maybe some mute is on ?
[23:02] <jagat> не понимаю ничерта
[23:03] <wilbert_> alarm thanks a lot lot lot lot :D :D :D
[23:03] <alarm> :P
[23:03] <sparky> no
[23:03] <sparky> not muted
[23:03] <alarm> no what ?
[23:03] <wilbert_> take care man
[23:03] <alarm> but what
[23:04] <sparky> its not muted
[23:04] <alarm> but turned down ?
[23:05] <sparky> nope
[23:06] <alarm> Dr_willis,  any suggestions ? :)
[23:09] <sparky> ok i will be back later
[23:14] <m477> what is a commend apt-get for searching files ?
[23:14] <m4v> apt-file
[23:14] <m477> apt-file 'name file' ?
[23:15] <SJr> apt-cache search
[23:15] <SJr> Knetworkmanager cannot see any wireless networks, but networkmanager in GNOME can see a crap load, so does iwlist, any ideas?
[23:15] <m4v> you want to search packages or files in packages?
[23:15] <Dr_willis> !apt | m477
[23:15] <Dr_willis> It may be looking at the wrong interface sjr perhaps?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:24] <kevind159> Whats up?
[23:24] <m477> how to install compiz on kde by apt-get install he wants to instal gnome version i think
[23:25] <jussi01> !compiz
[23:26] <m477> jussi01link doesnt help me
[23:26] <amelie> hi
[23:26] <amelie> i need help; after installing restricted drivers for dvd playing
[23:26] <amelie> the flashplugin is messed up
[23:27] <alarm> amelie,  flashplugin is fucked up anyway
[23:27] <amelie> i'm unable to watch youtube
[23:27] <amelie> what can i do?
[23:27] <alarm> amelie,  dont worry you are not the only one . what happens ? a gray picture appears ?
[23:27] <amelie> yes
[23:27] <amelie> almost white
[23:27] <alarm> just refresh the page a couple of times
[23:27] <alarm> sometimes it works
[23:28] <alarm> as i said , flash plugin for firefox is fucked up
[23:28] <alarm> works better with konqueror somehow
[23:28] <amelie> :(
[23:28] <amelie> i don't like koqueror browser
[23:29] <alarm> me neither. thats the only solution i found (refresh) for firefox
[23:29] <alarm> if someone knows how to solve it, let us know
[23:29] <Guest50920> firefox rulez!! xD
[23:29] <amelie> i tried it
[23:29] <amelie> i close the application
[23:29] <alarm> true, but its getting on my nerves when flash doesnt play
[23:29] <amelie> reopened it
[23:29] <amelie> nothing
[23:29] <amelie> me too
[23:29] <alarm> amelie,  i didnt say to close the application but to refresh the page
[23:30] <amelie> yes i did refresh it as you said
[23:30] <amelie> three times
[23:30] <alarm> try it more
[23:30] <alarm> sometimes i need like 5-6 times till it works
[23:30] <alarm> dont know why , but it works sometimes
[23:30] <alarm> dont ask me what is wrong with it. but i know the issue
[23:31] <amelie> nothing
[23:32] <m477> i just installed compiz and doenst start to me simple compizconfig setings manager
[23:35] <amelie> ok...
[23:35] <amelie> that's it
[23:36] <amelie> it was after i installed compiz!
[23:37] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[23:38] <Dr_willis> It may not be a good idea to mixx kde4 and compiz. You can have.. interesting.. quirks. :)
[23:45] <ghostcube> hmmm compiz and kde4 should work fine ;)
[23:46] <tuxi> don't need compiz ghostcube
[23:46] <ghostcube> :| depends on what u want
[23:47] <tuxi> I get some pretty nice effects with the kwin desktop effects (looks much like compiz)
[23:50] <amelie> ok guys
[23:51] <amelie> i just removed the flashplugin
[23:51] <amelie> and reinstalled it again
[23:51] <amelie> of course, after removing compiz
[23:51] <amelie> and the youtube graybox is out
[23:51] <tuxi> are you 32-bit?
[23:51] <amelie> 64
[23:51] <rao> hello all..
[23:52] <amelie> hi
[23:52] <ghostcube> tuxi, sure bit its not the same :)
[23:52] <tuxi> amelie: have you tried the 64-bit flash 10 beta?
[23:52] <rao> i forgot my password for my nick.. what is the best way to reterive that.. any ideas?
[23:52] <amelie> no
[23:52] <amelie> well, i've already solved the problem
[23:52] <jussi01> rao: ask in #freenode
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> amelie: wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.d20.7.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz &&  ( [ -d ~/.mozilla/plugins ] || mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins ) && tar zxvf libflashplayer*.tar.gz -C ~/.mozilla/plugins
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> amelie: sorts me right out
[23:54]  * ghostcube gives ActionParsnip a cookie 
[23:54] <amelie> well dear, i appreciate it
[23:54] <amelie> but
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> hehe, web searching dude :D
[23:54] <amelie> the problem is solved
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> amelie: that command downloads the 64bit tra.gz file, and extracts  the .so to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[23:55] <amelie> so... since i'm kind of a newbie on this; i'm not going to complicate it more...
[23:55] <amelie> ok
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> amelie: best way, if its not broken, dont fix it
[23:56] <amelie> hehe you couldn't say it better!
[23:56] <amelie> but, i assure you, if i got problems with it, i'll get your help
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> I work in computers so its my mantra
[23:56] <amelie> thank you very much, anyway
[23:56] <amelie> i wish i could be a guru like you
[23:57] <amelie> i'm newbie on linux
[23:57] <amelie> the best thing i can do in windows is using some applications on the office suite
[23:57] <tuxi> ActionParsnip: thanks for the link -- it looks like I'm a bit out of date
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> tuxi: just run the whole thing
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> tuxi: it does the work for you