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cjwatsonI just filed bug 336063; I know it's an inconvenient time but I would appreciate quick attention if possible, as it's sending me a *lot* of mail00:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 336063 in rosetta "translation import acknowledgements spam me every hour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33606300:00
stgrabergot a few for LTSP's template too 2 or 3 batches (template + each language with a po)00:03
* wgrant sees a total of 0 Translations people around.00:03
cjwatsonstgraber: that could just be bug 333772; this one seems to be too many for that00:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 333772 in rosetta "Duplicated translation uploads from Ubuntu packages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33377200:04
wgrantAlso relevant is bug #33583100:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 335831 in launchpad "New translation import notification system is wrong on many levels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33583100:06
* wgrant sends it to rosetta.00:06
cjwatsonmm, failure notifications are great, success notifications possibly a bit overkill00:06
dharton the PPA, I'm building for hardy, intrepid and jaunty, bumping package names like 0ubuntu1~dhart1, 0ubuntu1~dhart2, 0ubuntu1~dhart3 and re-uploading with dput for each release bump. is this right?01:15
wgrantdhart: That's not how I would advise to do it.01:32
wgrantLet me find some examples..01:32
dhartI tried the 'copy packages' button, and encountered https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/33071101:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 330711 in soyuz "Unhelpful error message on copy-and-rebuild: "same version already has published binaries in the destination archive"" [Undecided,New]01:33
wgrantdhart: That's just a bug about how it is displayed; you can't encounter a problem with it as such.01:34
wgrantIn general, I will upload 1.2-3~wgrant1 to Hardy, and copy (with binaries) to Intrepid and Jaunty.01:34
dhartyes, but it would be nice if the PPA could rebuild from the same sources for a new series (i.e. intrepid > jaunty), without a version bump & re-upload01:35
wgrantIf copying the binaries isn't possible, I will either upload ~wgrant1 to Jaunty, ~wgrant1~8.10 to Intrepid.01:35
wgrantThat's impossible both because of how Debian archives work and how dpkg works.01:35
dhartyeah, that's what I gathered from the comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/330711 - at least I know now what works. :-)01:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 330711 in soyuz "Unhelpful error message on copy-and-rebuild: "same version already has published binaries in the destination archive"" [Undecided,New]01:36
MTecknologyjoey: hi03:23
joeyhi MTecknology03:28
MTecknologyjoey: how's it going?03:28
joeybetter than this morning....sever at home failed.....03:29
joeystill doing configuration03:29
MTecknologyouch03:29
joeyon a backup box to get it up03:29
MTecknologyI'm trying to get skype to work :P03:29
MTecknologywanna trade?03:29
joeyI'm reasonably good with skype :-)03:30
MTecknologyI just realize that test sound uses the ringing device :P03:31
MTecknologydrupal-launchpad projects?03:34
MTecknologywrong channel03:34
MTecknologyjoey: It's a pain because I can make it play through a usb device but not the mic jack03:34
joeyMTecknology, ah. try playing with alsactl and alsamixer03:38
joeyMTecknology, I actually want it to go USB since I use a usb headset03:39
MTecknologyup - usb is working good now03:39
MTecknologyjoey: do work closely with stu at all?03:40
joeyMTecknology, I used to before he worked at Canonical.... now, no. Sad, he's a nice guy03:43
MTecknologyya, hard to get a hold of though :P03:43
joeylet me know on Monday if you are still waiting on answerrs03:44
MTecknologyI've been talking to him for a few weeks now - anywhere from 1 to 2 weeks between replies :P03:44
joeyok, I got bitlbee and radvd working now....  time to switch computers03:44
joeybusy guy he is03:44
MTecknologyI bet03:44
MTecknologyand I help so much....03:44
MTecknologyTrying to convince him to start developing on our branches instead of theirs :P03:45
joeygood luck with that :-)03:46
MTecknologyjoey: we're trying to convince kiko that we deserve a super project for the ubuntu-drupal thing :)03:46
joeyah, yeah those project-group requests I stay clear of03:46
MTecknologyHe already wants to do it, it's just figuring out exactly how03:46
joeypolitics03:46
joeyok, I'm off. Ping me on Monday if you need an answer from Stu on anything03:47
MTecknologyeh03:47
MTecknologyok03:47
MTecknologyttyl03:47
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YokoZarIs lawrencium build-d down?  I've had my hardy-i386 ppa package in there for 22 hours now, still unbuilt (all other hardy arches and all arches on intrepid built within 30 minutes)04:29
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cjwatsonwgrant: re dhart's question: it's not impossible, just difficult. see bug 235064 where I gave two practical suggestions07:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 235064 in soyuz "Implement multi-release support for packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23506407:55
cjwatsonwgrant: (though comments in bug 245594 about why it may be a bad idea ...)07:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 245594 in soyuz "Rebuilds of binary packages without source changes" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24559407:56
wgrantcjwatson: I don't perceive +bN as being a real solution. But it is the closest there is.08:01
wgrantBut true, it's not impossible.08:02
cjwatsonseems like a real solution to me :-) I just commented on 24559408:02
wgrantAlright, I certainly trust you on that.08:03
wgrantBut I've tended to agree with infinity.08:03
cjwatsonI have some sympathy with Adam's arguments, but there's no way to satisfy them while also having single-architecture rebuilds (well, perhaps apart from shipping multiple versions of a single source package in a given release), and I think that's desirable, so ...08:05
wgrantRight, but it feels very dirty.08:06
wgrantBut perhaps no more dirty than rebuilding on all archs should.08:06
cjwatsonthe external representation is a little ugly; I prefer to think of it in slightly more abstract terms - just another set of builds linked to a source package, and hey, they gotta have distinct version numbers ...08:13
wgrantcjwatson: But the version is a maintainer-specified field.08:14
cjwatsonHmm. That aspect of it has never really bothered me.08:15
cjwatsonAfter all, all sorts of maintainer-specified things get modified in various ways. As long as you regard the fact that it may be modified as part of the specification ...08:16
wgrantI guess that we already somewhat dictate the part after the final -08:16
wgrantBut not for PPAs.08:16
cjwatsonindeed, as a Debian maintainer I always expected that the version might be modified08:16
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cumulus007Hi, I created a list of Ubuntu-specific applications that can be translated on LP:12:44
cumulus007http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/UbuntuNL/Vertaalteam/Status12:44
cumulus007It's Dutch, but I think you can figure it out12:44
adiroibanhi cumulus007, sometimes LP channel is very busy12:50
adiroibancan you also post it on #ubuntu-translators :D ?12:51
adiroibanyour list is very useful12:51
adiroibanI'm working at creating a custom view for the translation list12:51
cumulus007Sure it is, so I think others would like to have it12:52
adiroibanand i'm trying to link the upstream project12:52
adiroibanhttp://l10n.ubuntu.tla.ro/jaunty-l10n-status/ro.html12:52
adiroibani'm still working on it12:52
cumulus007that's awesome12:52
cumulus007way beter than current12:52
adiroibansoon i will also make it available for dutch12:52
adiroiban:)12:52
cumulus007Does it have a filter for Ubuntu-specific stuff?12:53
adiroibani will use your list for marking ubuntu12:53
adiroibanyes12:53
cumulus007because that's something I really mis in LP12:53
cumulus007great :)12:53
adiroibansearch for upstream project12:53
adiroiban"ubuntu"12:53
adiroibanyou can search by template name12:53
adiroibanor upstream project name12:53
cumulus007btw, not all programs in my list are ubuntu-specific12:54
adiroibanyep,12:55
adiroibani saw this now12:55
cumulus007I put ndisgtk in it, because it's dutch translation is really bad12:55
adiroibanyou can work with upstream ndisgtk guys13:02
adiroibanand fix it :D13:02
cumulus007ndisgtk has it's project hosted on LP13:03
cumulus007so LP _is_ it's upstream ;)13:03
adiroibanyes13:04
adiroibanbut talk with the developersa13:05
adiroibanand ask them to switch to "Structured" translations13:05
adiroibanmode13:05
adiroibanand assign Ubuntu translators or Launchpad translators13:05
adiroibanas translation team13:05
adiroibanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanianTeam/Proiecte/Localizare/SablonModelStructurat13:05
adiroibanthis is my text I'm using to request such thing13:06
adiroibanusing the Answer section of that project13:06
adiroibanor contct the maintainer13:06
cumulus007erhm, is ndigtk set to open mode?13:08
adiroibanyep13:12
cumulus007that's sad13:13
littlewookieam i so fucking dumb, where can i find key fingerprint13:15
adiroibancumulus007: can you please ask them to swith to a structured mode13:15
adiroibangiving dutch translations quality as a good reason to do so?13:16
cumulus007doing that right now13:16
adiroibangreat13:16
tobiaskriegerhi13:22
tobiaskriegerjust a simple question13:22
tobiaskriegerhow can I upload files located somewhere in my user directory13:23
tobiaskriegerinto an launchpad branch13:23
adiroibando you got those files from launchpad?13:24
adiroibanor just want to create a new branch ?13:24
swegnermy VCS import was put on hold because of some sort of launchpad bug: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pathwords-x/trunk  Does anybody know where I can find more info?14:50
cumulus007adiroiban: hey, about your new translation view mode: are you a LP dev?14:57
adiroibanno15:03
adiroibanbut as far as i know15:03
adiroibanthere we should see some improvements15:03
adiroibanin the templates list15:04
adiroibanin about one mount15:04
cumulus007okay, grwat15:04
cumulus007/w/e15:04
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LarstiQswegner: I'd look for a similar issue on bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad or answers.launchpad.17:10
LarstiQswegner: if that doesn't help, file a bug/question against launchpad17:11
swegnerLarstiQ: thanks, couldn't find anything, so I opened a question: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6271817:13
LarstiQswegner: cool17:14
madduckpiper:~|master|.tmp/cdt.pkTyJoYA% bzr -Dhpss clone lp:pytagsfs                                 #3,1002218:18
madduckPermission denied (publickey).18:18
madduckbzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)18:18
madduck\o/18:18
madduckso, uh, how exactly am I supposed to use launchpad?18:18
james_wmadduck: does "ssh bazaar.launchpad.net" work?18:30
madduckPermission denied (publickey).18:31
madducki assume i am 'madduck'18:31
james_wlooks like it18:31
james_whttps://launchpad.net/~madduck/+sshkeys18:31
james_wdo you have one of those keys on that machine?18:32
madducki thought so... lemme check18:32
madduckah those are old.18:33
madduckgood spot. thanks.18:33
* madduck feels ashamed18:33
madducknow it's cloning, but...18:35
madduckFormat <RepositoryFormatKnit1> for lp-45955728:///~forest-bond/pytagsfs/dev/.bzr is deprecated - please use 'bzr upgrade' to get better performance18:35
madduckServer is too old for streaming pull, reconnecting.  (Upgrade the server to Bazaar 1.2 to avoid this)18:35
madduckthat's pretty confusing18:35
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MTecknologyIf you're sure that it's not being modified, use bzr break-lock lp-45955728:///~ubuntu-drupal-themes/ubuntu-drupal-theme/6.x/.bzr/branch/lock19:28
MTecknologymichael@panther:~/ubuntu-drupal-theme/ubuntu-loco$ bzr break-lock lp-45955728:///~ubuntu-drupal-themes/ubuntu-drupal-theme/6.x/.bzr/branch/lock19:28
MTecknologybzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "lp-45955728:///~ubuntu-drupal-themes/ubuntu-drupal-theme/6.x/.bzr/branch/lock19:28
MTecknologyoohh - sorry for that paste19:28
MTecknologybut that is my issue, any ideas what's wrong?19:28
MTecknologynvm......19:29
MTecknologyheh... something broke during commit19:32
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MTecknologyI'm getting bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions when I try to pull a branch20:04
thumperMTecknology: the break lock response isn't overly helpful20:11
thumperMTecknology: there is an outstanding bug to make it right20:11
thumperMTecknology: bzr break-lock lp:~ubuntu-drupal-themes/ubuntu-drupal-theme/6.x20:11
thumperMTecknology: that should work20:11
MTecknologythumper: ya, it took me a while to figure out to use lp:~ instead of what it was listing20:15
RainCTHi20:29
RainCTIf someone is around, when do you think will Launchpad be working "normal" again? I'm getting lots of timeouts lately trying to load bug reports... (Or does this only happen on edge?)20:30
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wgrantRainCT: Always try production in this sort of situation.20:30
RainCTUhm.. Yes, production works way smoother20:32
RainCTThanks20:32
edsuhi there i feel a bit daft, is there a way for me to add another maintainer to https://launchpad.net/pymarc ?20:43
LarstiQedsu: does +edit work?20:48
LarstiQthat is, https://launchpad.net/pymarc/+edit/20:48
LarstiQyou might need to form a team, set it as the owner/driver/bugcontact/whatever and include the other maintainer to that20:48
ploumhello20:49
ploumI'm trying to upload the package of my python application20:49
ploumI've followed https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA20:49
ploumbut the package only build for i38620:50
edsuLarstiQ: ahh i missed that People tab, thank you much!20:52
RainCTploum: what Arch do you have in debian/control?20:54
ploumArchitecture: any20:57
ploumbut when I do dpkg-buildpackage, only i386 package is generated20:58
geserploum: is that package gtg?20:59
ploumgeser: yes21:00
geseryour binary-arch target is broken as it doesn't produce a deb21:02
ploumand why does it works for i386 then ?21:03
geserploum: because on i386 the buildd calls the binary target which calls binary-arch and binary-indep (which builds the deb)21:04
ploumhow can I test it ?21:04
geserploum: test what?21:05
ploumif it will works without uploading to LP ?21:05
geserploum: looking at the package contents in the i386 build: does it really need to be build on every arch? I don't see any arch-specific files21:06
geserploum: you can use pbuilder for it (pbuilder has an option to call only the binary-arch target)21:06
ploumI must admit that I'm trying to do this packages for 3 days and that I'm completely lost21:07
ploumit's one of the hardest thing I've ever seen in my Ubuntu life21:07
ploumIn fact binary and binary-arch should be the same for me, isn't it ?21:08
ploum(as it's pure python only)21:08
geserploum: without a deep analysis but I guess setting Architecture: all will be enough21:09
geserploum: and you should certainly depend on "python (<< 2.6)" as your package won't work on jaunty (which has now python 2.6 as default) because the files are inside a directory which is only used by python 2.521:10
ploumthanks for the tips21:12
ploumhow can I mark that python should be 2.521:13
ploumbut not 2.6 ?21:13
ploumthat's two condition at the same time21:13
geserpython (>= 2.5), python (<< 2.6), ...21:18
geseras Depends:21:18
ploumthanks21:18
ploumit seems to work21:19
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ilowehi guys, how do I delete orig.tar.gz and diff.tar.gz files when uploading a package; I need to replace the current contents of those files and PPA won't let me upload my package because of it22:02
Bert_2Hi, this question seems like a bug https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+question/62647 but I don't know what I should do with it and what things I need to have this guy do to get the right info, any help ?22:03
Bert_2and BTW: I also asked this in #ubuntu-bugs but they aren't answering22:04
cjwatsonhmm. well, the upside of being repeatedly spammed about translation imports on the hour every hour is that I appear to have gained enormous translations karma :-P23:39
spmcjwatson: the silver lining? :-D23:41
Nafallohaha23:41
wgrantI bet katie is going to get a bit.23:43
Nafallowgrant: gaah. thinking about the wrong katie here... ;-)23:45
wgrantNafallo: I knew you would.23:46
wgrantcjwatson: Have you actually made as many uploads as your karma list shows, or is Rosetta/Soyuz on crack?23:46
cjwatsonwgrant: it's on crack23:55
wgrantcjwatson: Excellent.23:56
cjwatsonwgrant: it's stuck reprocessing the same upload over and over every hour. bug 33606323:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 336063 in rosetta "translation import acknowledgements spam me every hour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33606323:56
wgrantAh, so it's that same bug.23:56

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