[05:31] hey, any new art stuff? [07:47] hey just thought i'd let you know that on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Backgrounds when you select full size link for seude backgrounds it doesn't load the full resolution version. [08:08] be great if someone could fix the broken link [08:23] mtholdenss: link? [08:24] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Backgrounds when you select full size link for seude backgrounds it doesn't load the full resolution version [08:27] which link? [08:27] first [08:27] yeah the first one [08:28] under the heading ready for use > suede [08:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Backgrounds?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=suede_flat_1.png [08:29] mtholdenss: fixed [08:29] thanks [08:30] i'm loving the creativity coming from these designs [08:33] just to let you know that suede_flat_1.png is 7mb and may not be so friendly for users that don't have fast internet [08:38] mtholdenss: i am not uploader, i only fixed that problem with link ... it may do everyone, because wiki is based on open concept [08:39] mtholdenss: you may simply rescale that image, upload it on wiki and add link with smaller size [09:32] thorwil: hi [09:32] hi! [09:32] thorwil: i updated my icon ... look on wiki [09:33] thorwil: submission is down [09:35] :( [09:35] swalko_: thanks for fixing my typo on the backgrounds page! [09:35] thorwil: nfw [09:36] thorwil: i have one idea how to improve icon creation coordination [09:36] thorwil: add to wiki "work in progress" table with icon and artist name on that is worked upon [09:37] swalko_: that could be nice, yes [09:37] _MMA_: ^ [09:38] thorwil: and next idea ... add on wiki page where will be in steps described work with one canvas workflow [09:39] thorwil: if you want we may cooperate on that [09:39] thorwil: i am experienced user, but it taked me little time to completely understand one canvas workflow [09:40] swalko_: i thought we already had a brief explanation [09:41] thorwil: brie isnt enought [09:41] thorwil: and [09:41] thorwil: i looked at videos [09:41] thorwil: after reading bried and seened videos [09:41] thorwil: i haved problems [09:42] thorwil: may be i missed something .. but i must find scripts (from tango vcs), find in which layer i must add context, icon name and etc [09:42] swalko_: i'm currently dedicated to backgrounds, but if you write an outline and/or collect open questions, _MMA_ or I can reowrk that later on [09:43] thorwil: i may try to write step by step guide to use one canvas workflow [09:43] cool [09:44] thorwil: i mean in week it will be done ... maybe soon [09:44] thorwil: i put then existing template + add python an ruby scripts [09:45] swalko_: you shouldn't have to deal with any scripts [09:45] thorwil: scripts downloade from tange vcs [09:45] thorwil: not my :) [09:46] thorwil: is there a better way? [09:47] swalko_: yes, i guess. check out the bzr branch [09:48] otherwise just pick one of the files on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons [09:48] thorwil: peoples dont need scripts ... but artists may want ... at example i want to use my icons ... i created my personal icon set (mix of breathe + human + my icons) [09:49] thorwil: and that scripts saved my time [09:50] what kind of a script do you need? converting svg to png? [09:51] savvas: i have that scripts [09:51] savvas: export all icon sizes with one script [09:52] swalko_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions is back. i think you should add 2 outlines to the large version of the calculator. make the outer a bit darker than the body, maybe a little touch of blue. use the inner outline for a very subtle highlight on the top and maybe sides, but not bottom [09:54] savvas: i know what you mean ... but my idea was to create that calculator flat [09:54] thorwil: i know what you mean ... but my idea was to create that calculator flat [09:55] thorwil: something like "unibody" calculator :) [09:55] swalko_: i never ever saw a calculator with sharp edges. that would be a painful experience ;) [09:56] thorwil: new times, new designs :) [09:58] thorwil: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons i may then put icons on what i am working [10:00] thorwil: it will be good to add artist names to icons in WIP [10:00] swalko_: you really have to talk with _MMA_ ;) [10:01] thorwil: ok ok [10:01] thorwil: have you here "meeting days or meeting time" ? [10:03] swalko_: no. it's usually no problem to get him. i don't even know in which (american) timezone he is [10:03] thorwil: i try him sometime in week [10:49] thorwil: in the east (6 hours from us) [10:51] :) [10:52] hrmpf. letting gimp render the svg is also no solution, as it doesn't support masking, it seems [10:55] thorwil: inkscape: export [10:56] thorwil: multiple wanted size by power of two [10:56] thorwil: because inkscape has buggy (blurred) export to bitmap [10:56] swalko_: no, i'm struggling with a background. the inkscape export shows color-banding [10:58] thorwil: i seened that too, but i meant for it was responsible my monitor [10:59] thorwil: i dont know what tool is using script used by me, but you may try it [10:59] swalko_: the banding is a monitor issue, sometimes. but often not :( [11:00] thorwil: i have very good monitor, and i meant that was issue [11:01] thorwil: try that script and you see [11:02] thorwil: http://picasaweb.google.com/milan.krivda/Amarok#5288953664598001922 [11:02] thorwil: very ugly banding [11:03] yes [11:03] swalko_: and you found a way to render that one with better quality? [11:04] thorwil: no ... i forgot that, because i meaned that isnt inkscape issue [11:05] thorwil: have you screen with your background? [11:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Backgrounds?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=jumps.jpg [11:06] well, the JPG made it worse, of course [11:07] thorwil: my was much worster [11:07] thorwil: you may try te export only bblurred part with inkscape [11:07] thorwil: non blurred with gimp [11:07] swalko_: that's what i'm doing right now [11:07] thorwil: and combine [11:08] have you tried rendering it with batik? I used to do that a long long time ago [11:08] thorwil: and try to contact inkscape devs [11:08] thorwil: i newer used that [11:09] thorwil: illustrator work bad with svgs [11:09] thorwil: you may try karbon [11:10] karbon sucks [11:10] i just tried exporting double size to scale down in gimp. that used as overlay with the x1 export shows there's absilutely no difference [11:11] thorwil: are you sure if it is inkscape responsive for that? [11:11] swalko_: yes [11:11] thorwil: i meaned by multiple by power of two [11:11] an i know that the issue has been raised on the inkscape list already [11:12] thorwil: that step must be performed always by exporting [11:12] thorwil: that will not solve your problem, only make picture sharper after resizing in gimp [11:12] swalko_: i'm working with 2560 x 1600. i will not go beyond doubling that ;) [11:13] swalko_: my little experiment suggests it doesn't even lead to a sharper image. zero difference [11:14] thorwil: you maked difference mask on doth pictures? [11:14] both [11:14] yes [11:14] thorwil: and absolutelly none difference? [11:14] yeah [11:14] thorwil: o must try [11:15] food, bbl [11:15] thorwil: in oxygen that was one from first points that pinheiro pointed me [11:52] kwwii: searching for batik in synaptic only delivers a libxmlgraphics-commons-java [12:02] thorwil: yeah, batik is the svg engine made by the mozilla people [12:02] it is in java [12:54] andreasn_, if you add Inherits=hicolor,Human in the gnome iconset you can have the new notifications with the gnome iconset === andreasn_ is now known as andreasn [12:55] it's an ugly workaround until they move them into hicolor, but it works [12:55] yeah, but then you kind of end up with a circular dependency [12:55] I currently don't run Jaunty, so I expect it to be fixed until the stable version is released [12:55] andreasn, it's just until they move those icons into hicolor [12:56] oh ok [12:56] but thanks for the tip anyway [12:56] the icons should be in a hicolor dir sometime very soon...it was put in the package on friday, I know that [12:57] because I told them where to put them, etc :) [12:57] kwwii, great, thanks! [13:00] andreasn: sorry it wasn't right the first time around [13:00] the truth is, if they had at least included the icons I gave them weeks ago this all wouldn't have been such a big deal [13:00] but anyway, time to take my kid to a friends...bbl [13:01] oh, well, it didn't even get into the alpha release, right? [13:02] I can imagine worse things have happened between those :) [14:44] good morning [16:00] http://imgur.com/39P0N [16:00] flesh tones.. would like feedback [16:03] SealV: looks rather agressive [16:05] the white strokes, probably. [16:09] agressive in color? or style? [16:10] for me ... colors [16:10] left side are colored good [16:11] but right side uses agressive colors [16:13] agressive colors, I must admit I do not understand, swalko what is it about the right colors that you do not like? er.. hue? value? [16:13] color balance [16:14] ah. I see..hmm [16:14] concrete colors arent agressive [16:14] but personally [16:14] i like balanced backgrounds [16:15] if i look on that background my eyes go to right side [16:15] of that bg [16:15] but overall [16:15] that background look nice and clean [16:15] Ah now I see it thanks [16:16] Perhaps a different brown might work better [16:16] instead of the redpink [16:17] yes [16:18] if you balance right that colors, i mean it will be very very good background for me [16:18] i like their clean style [16:20] and next positive thing [16:20] you bgt may be nice colored in every color what you want [16:21] did not think about that, definitely worth trying out [16:32] http://imgur.com/3AIC7 [16:33] better or worse? [16:50] it's extreme, but too extreme to keep for more than 5 minutes :P [16:50] SealV: better, but i am still missing color balance [16:51] SealV: try to use colors very close to colors on left side (i like colors on the left half) [16:55] savas: the first or the second? or both? [17:26] http://imgur.com/3ATWV [17:26] toned it way down. used brown [17:47] SealV: beutiful [17:48] SealV: thats way i liked it :) [17:49] SealV: i must go, bye [20:26] hi there, its my first time in this channnel and i had some time to make a jaunty wallpaper, pls visit and tell me your opinion, thanks! http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/jaunty+sunset?content=100270&PHPSESSID=5f099a49c7ac361651121dfcee18115c [20:55] Selv: i looked now for you [20:56] SealV: i looked now for you [20:56] hey!, had to go study for chem lol [20:56] whats up? [20:57] SealV: you done your bg in inkscape? [20:57] yup, avoid gimp like the plague [20:57] SealV: may you upload svg on wiki? [20:57] SealV: i want your bg in my collection :) [20:58] oh yeah. Just need to scale it up for bigger resoltuions [20:58] gimme two minutes [20:58] SealV: may you upload svg? [20:59] yes [21:01] SealV: thank you [21:01] np :) [21:26] SealV: when you upload your icon ping me please [21:27] kk === andreasn_ is now known as andreasn [22:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Hself [22:27] : I uploaded it [22:27] swalko_: I uploaded it [22:28] SealV: thank you, i noticed that, right now i am exporting from your svg:) [22:35] SealV: now i am using your bg on my desktop [22:35] SealV: brown version is looking very nice [22:35] thanks :)