| knubbli__ | check this out http://tinyurl.com/rolfxd lol | 00:46 |
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| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| andresmujica | ok i've made up to feb 21st bugmails ... tomorrow would be another day.. | 02:03 |
| bcurtiswx | andresmujica: don't worry you'll end up with 10 more new ones tomorrow :D | 02:37 |
| Hew | The desktop CD isn't meant to have packages on it, right? bug 335902 | 03:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 335902 in software-properties "Install cdrom isn't recognized as a package source" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335902 | 03:27 |
| Flannel | Hew: It has a few packages, yes. build-essential and some others. http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.list search for the deb files | 03:36 |
| Flannel | (theyre all in /pool/ obviously enough) | 03:36 |
| Hew | Flannel: Yes, that's what I thought. So the question is, should they appear as a software source? I seem to remember they were in previous releases. | 03:37 |
| Flannel | It makes sense that it ought to be, yes. | 03:41 |
| JanC | they are needed for e.g. installing ndiswrapper-based wifi devices using ndisgtk | 03:46 |
| JanC | as downloading them before wifi works is quite a "catch 22" ;) | 03:47 |
| === MTecknology is now known as Microsoft | ||
| === Microsoft is now known as MTecknology | ||
| slick666 | evening everyone | 04:44 |
| slick666 | I've been working on getting bug 332211 triaged | 04:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 332211 in hal "Cannot change screen brightness on Lenovo X61" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332211 | 04:44 |
| slick666 | I think the user has everything a developer would need | 04:45 |
| slick666 | this shold probably be placed on a low priority as it requires specific hardware | 04:45 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| ziroday` | Should this bug be set to high? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtorrent-rasterbar/+bug/335741 | 08:22 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 335741 in libtorrent-rasterbar "[jaunty]python(<2.6)-based apps cannot meet dependencies" [Undecided,New] | 08:22 |
| maco | ziroday`: ignore it for 3 days and itll go away | 08:26 |
| maco | er oh wait < 2.6 | 08:26 |
| maco | python 2.5 is still availale | 08:26 |
| maco | *available | 08:26 |
| maco | sure they can | 08:27 |
| maco | individual packages may need to be updated to say "python2.5" instead of "python" in the depends and in the #! /usr/bin/python | 08:28 |
| ziroday` | maco: right | 08:28 |
| ziroday` | maco: so refile the bug against deluge? | 08:29 |
| ziroday` | or in this case python-libtorrent | 08:29 |
| YoBoY | question : what i have to do weed old bugs regarding no more supported ubuntu version (7.04 for exemple) ? | 11:01 |
| YoBoY | -weed + with ^^' | 11:02 |
| Hobbsee | YoBoY: if they don't occur on a later version of ubuntu, close them and leave a note to that effect. | 11:12 |
| Hobbsee | er, where later == later, still supported | 11:12 |
| YoBoY | well i can't test all, i put the "Old untouched bugs" response and wait for april to close them | 11:17 |
| === thiras_ is now known as Thiras | ||
| BUGabundo | moo | 13:57 |
| tuxmaniac | hey any difference in these bugs? bug 336253 and bug 334373 ? | 14:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 336253 in geda-gattrib "Please sync geda-gattrib 1:1.4.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main). (dup-of: 334373)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336253 | 14:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 334373 in geda-gattrib "Please sync geda-gattrib 1:1.4.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334373 | 14:01 |
| tuxmaniac | both were opened up by the same person.. and the very ame person closed one as duplicate | 14:01 |
| Hew | gah, I hate it when apport auto marks as dupe, and removes all the useful attachments.. | 14:02 |
| Hew | tuxmaniac: They almost certainly reported it twice by accident | 14:02 |
| BUGabundo | some times apport fails to do a full upload | 14:03 |
| tuxmaniac | well then the new one is supposed to be marked duplicate. not the old one and this is not the first time. | 14:03 |
| BUGabundo | so I get a partial bug, and don't even have the ID | 14:03 |
| Hew | BUGabundo: I mean when a user successfully reports a bug, but the retracer thinks it's a duplicate (whether it is or not), and removes the stacktrace you're waiting for.. | 14:04 |
| BUGabundo | yeah nauty retracer | 14:05 |
| Hew | it's quite frustrating, this is the second time I've had problems with it recently | 14:06 |
| Hew | bug 322614 | 14:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 322614 in transmission "transmission crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322614 | 14:06 |
| Hew | I wonder if removing the needs-duplicate-check tag would stop it.. | 14:07 |
| Hew | anyone know if there's some documentation on the retracer somewhere? it's a mystery to me | 14:08 |
| james_w | that should prevent it | 14:09 |
| james_w | is it not a duplicate of the one that it is marking it a duplicate of? | 14:10 |
| james_w | or are you just trying to do something unusual? | 14:10 |
| Hew | james_w: The stacktrace was rejected upstream as being from an old version, while the duplicate is from the latest version. | 14:11 |
| james_w | ah | 14:11 |
| james_w | the code obviously hasn't changed that much then :-) | 14:11 |
| Hew | james_w: There was another large bug the other day that started collecting bugs from a new issue | 14:12 |
| Hew | james_w: Yes, it sounds like the same issue, but upstream wants a new retrace :-) | 14:12 |
| BUGabundo | by the way | 14:13 |
| BUGabundo | have any of your guys eared about probs with the new nvidia driver and hibernate? | 14:14 |
| BUGabundo | twice now (on separate times) after Resume, my X spawns a new Session | 14:14 |
| BUGabundo | Bug 335465 | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 335465 in xorg "resume from hibernation crashed X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335465 | 14:15 |
| Hew | BUGabundo: I'm always hearing about resume / suspend / hibernate issues. I don't use those features, fortunately. | 14:17 |
| BUGabundo | I do! a lot! | 14:18 |
| BUGabundo | you must have a really fast boot | 14:18 |
| BUGabundo | or don't want to save stuff between sessions | 14:18 |
| Hew | BUGabundo: I'm using a desktop, I get the feeling most others are on laptops. | 14:19 |
| Hew | BUGabundo: I prefer doing fresh starts every day :-) | 14:19 |
| BUGabundo | bah | 14:20 |
| BUGabundo | my work pc, got hibernated every day, and lasted about 2 or 3 months | 14:20 |
| BUGabundo | then, I had to do a fresh reboot | 14:20 |
| slick666 | If I do turn my work machine off for the weekend it's suspend | 14:20 |
| slick666 | haven't rebooted on over 50 days :) | 14:21 |
| BUGabundo | nice | 14:22 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| salty-horse | hi. I can't seem to be able to mount a USB mass storage device in jaunty. dmesg reports it correctly but nautilus does nothing. can anyone help? | 17:48 |
| BUGabundo | salty-horse: hi | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | jump over to #ubuntu+1 | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | we will help you there | 17:50 |
| alex_mayorga1 | hi, just filed bug 336326, what else can I provide? | 17:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 336326 in bluez "bluetoothd crashed with SIGSEGV in calloc()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336326 | 17:52 |
| YoBoY | hi | 18:13 |
| BUGabundo | YoBoY: hi | 18:24 |
| andresmujica1 | hi yoboy | 18:39 |
| alex_mayorga1 | is there an X specific troubleshoot channel? | 18:42 |
| BUGabundo | alex_mayorga1: there's #ubuntu-x | 18:43 |
| andresmujica1 | #xorg perhaps? | 18:43 |
| BUGabundo | but its not exacly meant for support | 18:43 |
| BUGabundo | there's #ubuntu for general troublshooting | 18:44 |
| alex_mayorga1 | or can anyone take a look at bug 146706 to rule out my own stupidity? | 18:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 146706 in xorg-server "[Intrepid] Live cd graphics fail with nvidia geforce4 440 go " [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146706 | 18:44 |
| andresmujica1 | u can try at the wiki the troubleshooting guide for X | 18:44 |
| BUGabundo | and #ubuntu+1 for devel versions | 18:44 |
| charlie-tca | alex_mayorga1: you could comment on the upstream report so they know it is not only on hardy | 18:48 |
| folke | How can I report dependency problem for a lot of python modules in jaunty? | 18:53 |
| geser | folke: better wait a few days before reporting them | 18:54 |
| geser | we are currently in a python transition | 18:54 |
| geser | so please leave us some time to finish it | 18:54 |
| folke | geser, I guessed that there was looked at | 18:54 |
| folke | thnx for the answer | 18:55 |
| BUGabundo | folke: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000541.html | 18:55 |
| BUGabundo | geser: since opening bugs is not good, the only way to know if a certain package has been rebuilt is to go testing? | 18:56 |
| geser | BUGabundo: either that or check LP for the last version in jaunty | 18:56 |
| geser | BUGabundo: it's not really about opening bugs as I check bugs when I do the transition upload | 18:57 |
| BUGabundo | see gwibber: Depends: python-webkitgtk | 18:58 |
| BUGabundo | I need to know when that package gets rebuild so I can use gwibber again | 18:58 |
| geser | BUGabundo: in case of python-webkitgtk there is a sync request open and I wanted to talk to huats about it before introducing ubuntu delta which gets lost | 18:59 |
| BUGabundo | bah | 19:00 |
| BUGabundo | then it will take EVEN longer | 19:00 |
| BUGabundo | gwibber already depends on the most recent version | 19:00 |
| geser | BUGabundo: I just don't to interfere with huats work | 19:00 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 19:01 |
| BUGabundo | no pressure | 19:01 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 19:01 |
| folke | geser, Is there anywhere I can see this info, so that we don't fill in to many bugs? | 19:02 |
| BUGabundo | folke: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000541.html | 19:02 |
| folke | BUGabundo, So all the syncs and stuff is announced there? | 19:03 |
| geser | folke: please check LP about the latest version before opening bugs, so you don't open bugs for packages which just need to be rebuild and distributed to the mirrors | 19:04 |
| geser | folke: sync request are filed as bugs, so you should see them when you check if a similar bug for your problem is already filed | 19:05 |
| tcole | howdy | 20:30 |
| tcole | I've got a kernel bug that still hasn't been addressed | 20:30 |
| tcole | it's completely debugged, it's got a patch to fix the issue and everything | 20:31 |
| * Laibsch lets doko know about some issues with upgrading to python 2.6 that he documented in bug 331461 | 20:31 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 331461 in python-defaults "python2.6 support/defaults in jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331461 | 20:31 |
| Laibsch | tcole: what number? | 20:31 |
| tcole | bug #300143 | 20:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 300143 in linux "tablet devices show up as non-functional joysticks" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300143 | 20:31 |
| Laibsch | tcole: You should report this upstream | 20:32 |
| Laibsch | bugzilla.kernel.org | 20:32 |
| tcole | it isn't an upstream bug | 20:32 |
| tcole | no | 20:32 |
| tcole | no | 20:32 |
| Laibsch | Oh, OK | 20:32 |
| tcole | it's specifically with our patched kernel | 20:32 |
| tcole | the bug doens't exist upstream | 20:32 |
| Laibsch | Sorry, I need to read further, then | 20:32 |
| * tcole adds a note to the bug description | 20:33 | |
| tcole | maybe people are seeing kernel bug and thinking "oh, that should be upstream" and then ignoring it | 20:33 |
| Laibsch | Hehe | 20:33 |
| Laibsch | Very possible | 20:33 |
| Laibsch | tcole: Maybe you want to take up this issue in #ubuntu-kernel | 20:34 |
| Laibsch | More focused channel | 20:34 |
| tcole | maybe I'd better | 20:34 |
| Laibsch | tcole: Have you verified this for Jaunty kernel? | 20:34 |
| Laibsch | verified to be a problem | 20:35 |
| tcole | I hadn't yet | 20:35 |
| tcole | it still seems like it should get fixed in Intrepid though | 20:35 |
| Laibsch | The usual route is to fix it in the upcoming release first | 20:36 |
| Laibsch | and possibly make a stable-release-update later | 20:36 |
| tcole | :( | 20:36 |
| tcole | at least it's pretty easy to check just by examining the sources | 20:37 |
| Laibsch | tcole: that is nothing to be sorry about | 20:38 |
| Laibsch | that is just the usual route | 20:38 |
| Laibsch | I've made a few changes that I hope should get your bug a bit of more attention | 20:38 |
| tcole | thank you | 20:39 |
| tcole | LP seems to be the place where bugs go to die these days :/ | 20:39 |
| tcole | every little bit helps | 20:39 |
| Laibsch | Hm, you can help LP become more responsive | 20:40 |
| Laibsch | I don't have any problems getting the fixes uploaded | 20:40 |
| Laibsch | even into old releases | 20:40 |
| Laibsch | It does take some nagging from time to time in IRC, that is true | 20:40 |
| Laibsch | and a bit of knowledge how to get attention to bugs | 20:40 |
| Laibsch | I guess that is to be expected with the overwhelming task at hand | 20:41 |
| tcole | I just checked the .diff.gz and it looks like the issue is still unfixed in Jaunty kernels | 20:41 |
| Laibsch | tcole: You should help with bug triaging, you'll become more knowledgeable about how to push fixes into the release and you'll tremendously help ubuntu | 20:41 |
| tcole | I've done a bit; I guess I should do more | 20:42 |
| Laibsch | tcole: OK, make a comment to that effect. Please also download the daily Jaunty ISO and boot from CD/USB or whatever to make really sure | 20:42 |
| Laibsch | tcole: awesome, thanks for what you've done already | 20:42 |
| Laibsch | I can tell the work you did in the bug you mentioned here is very high quality | 20:43 |
| tcole | thank you | 20:43 |
| Bert_2 | Hi, this question seems like a bug https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+question/62647 but I don't know what I should do with it and what things I need to have this guy do to get the right info, any help ? | 22:01 |
| charlie-tca | You could advise him to file a bug, with reference to where to file it and the information needed | 22:05 |
| Bert_2 | charlie-tca: well, we probably need to tail of syslog, but I don't know the commands to get that info and I think he's quite new to ubuntu or not very techy | 22:06 |
| charlie-tca | Here is the reference for the information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend | 22:07 |
| charlie-tca | He can follow that and attach the files it says | 22:07 |
| charlie-tca | Someone will triage it and ask for more information or logs if needed | 22:08 |
| Bert_2 | charlie-tca: the guy is having poweroff and reboot problems, we're not talking about suspend | 22:09 |
| Bert_2 | or is this the same in this case ? | 22:09 |
| charlie-tca | Sorry, I saw "i cannot return from hibernate or suspend mode." and thought that was a problem | 22:10 |
| charlie-tca | Need to find out what is really wrong, maybe. | 22:11 |
| Bert_2 | charlie-tca: nope, his laptop does not poweroff, I think his kernel panics before it can shutdown or something, but I don't know how I'm supposed to check it | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | So that happens even before it hibernates or suspends? | 22:12 |
| Bert_2 | charlie-tca: he tries to poweroff or reboot | 22:12 |
| Bert_2 | and then it happens | 22:12 |
| Bert_2 | he has to shut it down with a hardpress | 22:12 |
| Bert_2 | because it's stuck | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo1 | Bert_2: I got that some time ago | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo1 | it was nividia driver in my case | 22:13 |
| Bert_2 | BUGabundo1: so how did you fix it ? | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo1 | dunno | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo1 | it was long ago | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo1 | new kernel I guess | 22:13 |
| Bert_2 | aaah, okey | 22:14 |
| Bert_2 | well, I'd like to help this guy | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo1 | as usual ogasawara came to the rescue | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo1 | Bert_2: is he in ibex? | 22:14 |
| Bert_2 | hardy | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo1 | ask him to enable backports | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo1 | and install the newest kernel there, plus the backport module | 22:14 |
| Bert_2 | BUGabundo1: should I warn him about that backports is unsupported ? | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo1 | it usually fixes a lot | 22:14 |
| Bert_2 | or is backports supported ? | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo1 | just update the kernel, and then comment it | 22:15 |
| Bert_2 | k | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo1 | if you or him don't want them | 22:15 |
| Bert_2 | I have no problem with backports but I'm not sure if he's a business guy or not | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo1 | just update the kernel, and then comment it | 22:16 |
| Bert_2 | won't it be easier if I just tell him to enable it permanently | 22:17 |
| Bert_2 | cause I'm not sure how I should explain to him how to only update certain packages | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo1 | eheh | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo1 | he still needs to look for the kernel | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo1 | it won't be installed automagicly | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo1 | much less the backport module | 22:18 |
| Bert_2 | won't it be marked as update ? | 22:18 |
| Bert_2 | damn, how am I going to explain the guy how to install another kernel (I'm not even sure what it's going to be called like) | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo1 | VNC to his PC? | 22:19 |
| BUGabundo1 | I love the new jaunty vino | 22:19 |
| BUGabundo1 | it has uPNP | 22:19 |
| BUGabundo1 | it should be backported | 22:19 |
| Bert_2 | uPnP, does that mean it can bypass the fact that there are many computers behind one external IP ? | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo1 | no no | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo1 | that's NAT | 22:20 |
| Bert_2 | owyeah, woops | 22:20 |
| Bert_2 | but that's still a big issue for me | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo1 | uPNP will open the router ports | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo1 | once you start vino | 22:20 |
| Bert_2 | there are a lot of people using a modem+router with different computers behind | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo1 | so it just gives you the external IP and port | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo1 | and the remote user can then login | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo1 | Bert_2: IPv6.... | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo1 | no more prob | 22:21 |
| Bert_2 | yeah, but that's going to take another 5 to 20 years... | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo1 | if it does we will be out of IPv4 | 22:22 |
| Bert_2 | I know | 22:23 |
| Bert_2 | but addaption rates are far to low | 22:23 |
| Bert_2 | the backport kernel, does it have the word backport in its name ? | 22:24 |
| Bert_2 | BUGabundo: I can only find linux-backports-modules stuff, no new kernel apparently | 22:25 |
| BUGabundo | no | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | its just a higher version | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | but AFAIK it will install unless forced | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | maybe its pin down | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | or the metapackage doesn't mention ut | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | *it | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | Hardy was TOO long ago | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | I'm on jaunty | 22:27 |
| andersk | Can someone please set the priority of bug 289921 to High, bug 306835 to Medium, and bug 302226 to Low? (Or whatever you judge to be appropriate; those are my assessments.) | 22:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 289921 in open-vm-tools "network interface does not come up after installing open-vm-tools" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289921 | 22:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 306835 in open-vm-tools "vmware-guestd crashing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306835 | 22:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 302226 in open-vm-tools "vmware-user doesn't autostart" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/302226 | 22:27 |
| Bert_2 | I'm not doing intrepid, I'm going straight to jaunty when it's in betaµ | 22:28 |
| andersk | I could see 302226 being Medium, maybe. | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | Bert_2: why wait? | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | just wait for the python rebuild to be over and update-manager -d | 22:29 |
| Bert_2 | BUGabundo: I was too lazy to update to intrepid and I really need a clean install (and now going to intrepid is just plain silly) | 22:29 |
| Bert_2 | BUGabundo: but I'm going to bed now, thank you for your help ;) | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | mp | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | np | 22:32 |
| andersk | Anyone from ubuntu-bugcontrol available? | 22:43 |
| Ampelbein | andersk: yeah, what's your wish? | 22:45 |
| Ampelbein | ;-) | 22:45 |
| andersk | Please set the priority of bug 289921 to High, bug 306835 to Medium, and bug 302226 to Low? (Or whatever you judge to be appropriate; those are my assessments.) | 22:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 289921 in open-vm-tools "network interface does not come up after installing open-vm-tools" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289921 | 22:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 306835 in open-vm-tools "vmware-guestd crashing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306835 | 22:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 302226 in open-vm-tools "vmware-user doesn't autostart" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/302226 | 22:46 |
| Ampelbein | looking | 22:47 |
| Ampelbein | andersk: done. nice work triaging btw. | 22:51 |
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