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knubbli__check this out http://tinyurl.com/rolfxd lol00:46
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andresmujicaok i've made up to feb 21st bugmails ... tomorrow would be another day..02:03
bcurtiswxandresmujica: don't worry you'll end up with 10 more new ones tomorrow :D02:37
HewThe desktop CD isn't meant to have packages on it, right? bug 33590203:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 335902 in software-properties "Install cdrom isn't recognized as a package source" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33590203:27
FlannelHew: It has a few packages, yes.  build-essential and some others.  http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.list  search for the deb files03:36
Flannel(theyre all in /pool/ obviously enough)03:36
HewFlannel: Yes, that's what I thought. So the question is, should they appear as a software source? I seem to remember they were in previous releases.03:37
FlannelIt makes sense that it ought to be, yes.03:41
JanCthey are needed for e.g. installing ndiswrapper-based wifi devices using ndisgtk03:46
JanCas downloading them before wifi works is quite a "catch 22"   ;)03:47
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slick666evening everyone04:44
slick666I've been working on getting bug 332211 triaged04:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 332211 in hal "Cannot change screen brightness on Lenovo X61" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33221104:44
slick666I think the user has everything a developer would need04:45
slick666this shold probably be placed on a low priority as it requires specific hardware04:45
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ziroday`Should this bug be set to high? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtorrent-rasterbar/+bug/33574108:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 335741 in libtorrent-rasterbar "[jaunty]python(<2.6)-based apps cannot meet dependencies" [Undecided,New]08:22
macoziroday`: ignore it for 3 days and itll go away08:26
macoer oh wait < 2.608:26
macopython 2.5 is still availale08:26
maco*available08:26
macosure they can08:27
macoindividual packages may need to be updated to say "python2.5" instead of "python" in the depends and in the #! /usr/bin/python08:28
ziroday`maco: right08:28
ziroday`maco: so refile the bug against deluge?08:29
ziroday`or in this case python-libtorrent08:29
YoBoYquestion : what i have to do weed old bugs regarding no more supported ubuntu version (7.04 for exemple) ?11:01
YoBoY-weed + with ^^'11:02
HobbseeYoBoY: if they don't occur on a later version of ubuntu, close them and leave a note to that effect.11:12
Hobbseeer, where later == later, still supported11:12
YoBoYwell i can't test all, i put the "Old untouched bugs" response and wait for april to close them11:17
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BUGabundomoo13:57
tuxmaniachey any difference in these bugs? bug 336253 and bug 334373 ?14:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 336253 in geda-gattrib "Please sync geda-gattrib 1:1.4.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main). (dup-of: 334373)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33625314:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 334373 in geda-gattrib "Please sync geda-gattrib 1:1.4.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33437314:01
tuxmaniacboth were opened up by the same person.. and the very ame person closed one as duplicate14:01
Hewgah, I hate it when apport auto marks as dupe, and removes all the useful attachments..14:02
Hewtuxmaniac: They almost certainly reported it twice by accident14:02
BUGabundosome times apport fails to do a full upload14:03
tuxmaniacwell then the new one is supposed to be marked duplicate. not the old one and this is not the first time.14:03
BUGabundoso I get a partial bug, and don't even have the ID14:03
HewBUGabundo: I mean when a user successfully reports a bug, but the retracer thinks it's a duplicate (whether it is or not), and removes the stacktrace you're waiting for..14:04
BUGabundoyeah nauty retracer14:05
Hewit's quite frustrating, this is the second time I've had problems with it recently14:06
Hewbug 32261414:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 322614 in transmission "transmission crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32261414:06
HewI wonder if removing the needs-duplicate-check tag would stop it..14:07
Hewanyone know if there's some documentation on the retracer somewhere? it's a mystery to me14:08
james_wthat should prevent it14:09
james_wis it not a duplicate of the one that it is marking it a duplicate of?14:10
james_wor are you just trying to do something unusual?14:10
Hewjames_w: The stacktrace was rejected upstream as being from an old version, while the duplicate is from the latest version.14:11
james_wah14:11
james_wthe code obviously hasn't changed that much then :-)14:11
Hewjames_w: There was another large bug the other day that started collecting bugs from a new issue14:12
Hewjames_w: Yes, it sounds like the same issue, but upstream wants a new retrace :-)14:12
BUGabundoby the way14:13
BUGabundohave any of your guys eared about probs with the new nvidia driver and hibernate?14:14
BUGabundotwice now (on separate times) after Resume, my X spawns a new Session14:14
BUGabundoBug 33546514:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 335465 in xorg "resume from hibernation crashed X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33546514:15
HewBUGabundo: I'm always hearing about resume / suspend / hibernate issues. I don't use those features, fortunately.14:17
BUGabundoI do! a lot!14:18
BUGabundoyou must have a really fast boot14:18
BUGabundoor don't want to save stuff between sessions14:18
HewBUGabundo: I'm using a desktop, I get the feeling most others are on laptops.14:19
HewBUGabundo: I prefer doing fresh starts every day :-)14:19
BUGabundobah14:20
BUGabundomy work pc, got hibernated every day, and lasted about 2 or 3 months14:20
BUGabundothen, I had to do a fresh reboot14:20
slick666If I do turn my work machine off for the weekend it's suspend14:20
slick666haven't rebooted on over 50 days :)14:21
BUGabundonice14:22
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salty-horsehi. I can't seem to be able to mount a USB mass storage device in jaunty. dmesg reports it correctly but nautilus does nothing. can anyone help?17:48
BUGabundosalty-horse: hi17:50
BUGabundojump over to #ubuntu+117:50
BUGabundowe will help you there17:50
alex_mayorga1hi, just filed bug 336326, what else can I provide?17:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 336326 in bluez "bluetoothd crashed with SIGSEGV in calloc()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33632617:52
YoBoYhi18:13
BUGabundoYoBoY: hi18:24
andresmujica1hi yoboy18:39
alex_mayorga1is there an X specific troubleshoot channel?18:42
BUGabundoalex_mayorga1: there's #ubuntu-x18:43
andresmujica1#xorg perhaps?18:43
BUGabundobut its not exacly meant for support18:43
BUGabundothere's #ubuntu for general troublshooting18:44
alex_mayorga1or can anyone take a look at bug 146706 to rule out my own stupidity?18:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 146706 in xorg-server "[Intrepid] Live cd graphics fail with nvidia geforce4 440 go " [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14670618:44
andresmujica1u can try at the wiki the troubleshooting guide for X18:44
BUGabundoand #ubuntu+1 for devel versions18:44
charlie-tcaalex_mayorga1: you could comment on the upstream report so they know it is not only on hardy18:48
folkeHow can I report dependency problem for a lot of python modules in jaunty?18:53
geserfolke: better wait a few days before reporting them18:54
geserwe are currently in a python transition18:54
geserso please leave us some time to finish it18:54
folkegeser, I guessed that there was looked at18:54
folkethnx for the answer18:55
BUGabundofolke: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000541.html18:55
BUGabundogeser: since opening bugs is not good, the only way to know if a certain package has been rebuilt is to go testing?18:56
geserBUGabundo: either that or check LP for the last version in jaunty18:56
geserBUGabundo: it's not really about opening bugs as I check bugs when I do the transition upload18:57
BUGabundosee gwibber: Depends: python-webkitgtk18:58
BUGabundoI need to know when that package gets rebuild so I  can use gwibber again18:58
geserBUGabundo: in case of python-webkitgtk there is a sync request open and I wanted to talk to huats about it before introducing ubuntu delta which gets lost18:59
BUGabundobah19:00
BUGabundothen it will take EVEN longer19:00
BUGabundogwibber already depends on the most recent version19:00
geserBUGabundo: I just don't to interfere with huats work19:00
BUGabundoI know19:01
BUGabundono pressure19:01
BUGabundoLOL19:01
folkegeser, Is there anywhere I can see this info, so that we don't fill in to many bugs?19:02
BUGabundofolke: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000541.html19:02
folkeBUGabundo, So all the syncs and stuff is announced there?19:03
geserfolke: please check LP about the latest version before opening bugs, so you don't open bugs for packages which just need to be rebuild and distributed to the mirrors19:04
geserfolke: sync request are filed as bugs, so you should see them when you check if a similar bug for your problem is already filed19:05
tcolehowdy20:30
tcoleI've got a kernel bug that still hasn't been addressed20:30
tcoleit's completely debugged, it's got a patch to fix the issue and everything20:31
* Laibsch lets doko know about some issues with upgrading to python 2.6 that he documented in bug 33146120:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 331461 in python-defaults "python2.6 support/defaults in jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33146120:31
Laibschtcole: what number?20:31
tcolebug #30014320:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 300143 in linux "tablet devices show up as non-functional joysticks" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30014320:31
Laibschtcole: You should report this upstream20:32
Laibschbugzilla.kernel.org20:32
tcoleit isn't an upstream bug20:32
tcoleno20:32
tcoleno20:32
LaibschOh, OK20:32
tcoleit's specifically with our patched kernel20:32
tcolethe bug doens't exist upstream20:32
LaibschSorry, I need to read further, then20:32
* tcole adds a note to the bug description20:33
tcolemaybe people are seeing kernel bug and thinking "oh, that should be upstream" and then ignoring it20:33
LaibschHehe20:33
LaibschVery possible20:33
Laibschtcole: Maybe you want to take up this issue in #ubuntu-kernel20:34
LaibschMore focused channel20:34
tcolemaybe I'd better20:34
Laibschtcole: Have you verified this for Jaunty kernel?20:34
Laibschverified to be a problem20:35
tcoleI hadn't yet20:35
tcoleit still seems like it should get fixed in Intrepid though20:35
LaibschThe usual route is to fix it in the upcoming release first20:36
Laibschand possibly make a stable-release-update later20:36
tcole:(20:36
tcoleat least it's pretty easy to check just by examining the sources20:37
Laibschtcole: that is nothing to be sorry about20:38
Laibschthat is just the usual route20:38
LaibschI've made a few changes that I hope should get your bug a bit of more attention20:38
tcolethank you20:39
tcoleLP seems to be the place where bugs go to die these days :/20:39
tcoleevery little bit helps20:39
LaibschHm, you can help LP become more responsive20:40
LaibschI don't have any problems getting the fixes uploaded20:40
Laibscheven into old releases20:40
LaibschIt does take some nagging from time to time in IRC, that is true20:40
Laibschand a bit of knowledge how to get attention to bugs20:40
LaibschI guess that is to be expected with the overwhelming task at hand20:41
tcoleI just checked the .diff.gz and it looks like the issue is still unfixed in Jaunty kernels20:41
Laibschtcole: You should help with bug triaging, you'll become more knowledgeable about how to push fixes into the release and you'll tremendously help ubuntu20:41
tcoleI've done a bit; I guess I should do more20:42
Laibschtcole: OK, make a comment to that effect.  Please also download the daily Jaunty ISO and boot from CD/USB or whatever to make really sure20:42
Laibschtcole: awesome, thanks for what you've done already20:42
LaibschI can tell the work you did in the bug you mentioned here is very high quality20:43
tcolethank you20:43
Bert_2Hi, this question seems like a bug https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+question/62647 but I don't know what I should do with it and what things I need to have this guy do to get the right info, any help ?22:01
charlie-tcaYou could advise him to file a bug, with reference to where to file it and the information needed22:05
Bert_2charlie-tca: well, we probably need to tail of syslog, but I don't know the commands to get that info and I think he's quite new to ubuntu or not very techy22:06
charlie-tcaHere is the reference for the information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend22:07
charlie-tcaHe can follow that and attach the files it says22:07
charlie-tcaSomeone will triage it and ask for more information or logs if needed22:08
Bert_2charlie-tca: the guy is having poweroff and reboot problems, we're not talking about suspend22:09
Bert_2or is this the same in this case ?22:09
charlie-tcaSorry, I saw "i cannot return from hibernate or suspend mode." and thought that was a problem22:10
charlie-tcaNeed to find out what is really wrong, maybe.22:11
Bert_2charlie-tca: nope, his laptop does not poweroff, I think his kernel panics before it can shutdown or something, but I don't know how I'm supposed to check it22:11
charlie-tcaSo that happens even before it hibernates or suspends?22:12
Bert_2charlie-tca: he tries to poweroff or reboot22:12
Bert_2and then it happens22:12
Bert_2he has to shut it down with a hardpress22:12
Bert_2because it's stuck22:13
BUGabundo1Bert_2: I got that some time ago22:13
BUGabundo1it was nividia driver in my case22:13
Bert_2BUGabundo1: so how did you fix it ?22:13
BUGabundo1dunno22:13
BUGabundo1it was long ago22:13
BUGabundo1new kernel I guess22:13
Bert_2aaah, okey22:14
Bert_2well, I'd like to help this guy22:14
BUGabundo1as usual ogasawara came to the rescue22:14
BUGabundo1Bert_2: is he in ibex?22:14
Bert_2hardy22:14
BUGabundo1ask him to enable backports22:14
BUGabundo1and install the newest kernel there, plus the backport module22:14
Bert_2BUGabundo1: should I warn him about that backports is unsupported ?22:14
BUGabundo1it usually fixes a lot22:14
Bert_2or is backports supported ?22:15
BUGabundo1just update the kernel, and then comment it22:15
Bert_2k22:15
BUGabundo1if you or him don't want them22:15
Bert_2I have no problem with backports but I'm not sure if he's a business guy or not22:16
BUGabundo1just update the kernel, and then comment it22:16
Bert_2won't it be easier if I just tell him to enable it permanently22:17
Bert_2cause I'm not sure how I should explain to him how to only update certain packages22:17
BUGabundo1eheh22:17
BUGabundo1he still needs to look for the kernel22:18
BUGabundo1it won't be installed automagicly22:18
BUGabundo1much less the backport module22:18
Bert_2won't it be marked as update ?22:18
Bert_2damn, how am I going to explain the guy how to install another kernel (I'm not even sure what it's going to be called like)22:18
BUGabundo1VNC to his PC?22:19
BUGabundo1I love the new jaunty vino22:19
BUGabundo1it has uPNP22:19
BUGabundo1it should be backported22:19
Bert_2uPnP, does that mean it can bypass the fact that there are many computers behind one external IP ?22:20
BUGabundo1no no22:20
BUGabundo1that's NAT22:20
Bert_2owyeah, woops22:20
Bert_2but that's still a big issue for me22:20
BUGabundo1uPNP will open the router ports22:20
BUGabundo1once you start vino22:20
Bert_2there are a lot of people using a modem+router with different computers behind22:21
BUGabundo1so it just gives you the external IP and port22:21
BUGabundo1and the remote user can then login22:21
BUGabundo1Bert_2: IPv6....22:21
BUGabundo1no more prob22:21
Bert_2yeah, but that's going to take another 5 to 20 years...22:21
BUGabundo1if it does we will be out of IPv422:22
Bert_2I know22:23
Bert_2but addaption rates are far to low22:23
Bert_2the backport kernel, does it have the word backport in its name ?22:24
Bert_2BUGabundo: I can only find linux-backports-modules stuff, no new kernel apparently22:25
BUGabundono22:26
BUGabundoits just a higher version22:26
BUGabundobut AFAIK it will install unless forced22:26
BUGabundomaybe its pin down22:27
BUGabundoor the metapackage doesn't mention ut22:27
BUGabundo*it22:27
BUGabundoHardy was TOO long ago22:27
BUGabundoI'm on jaunty22:27
anderskCan someone please set the priority of bug 289921 to High, bug 306835 to Medium, and bug 302226 to Low?  (Or whatever you judge to be appropriate; those are my assessments.)22:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 289921 in open-vm-tools "network interface does not come up after installing open-vm-tools" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28992122:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 306835 in open-vm-tools "vmware-guestd crashing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30683522:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 302226 in open-vm-tools "vmware-user doesn't autostart" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30222622:27
Bert_2I'm not doing intrepid, I'm going straight to jaunty when it's in betaµ22:28
anderskI could see 302226 being Medium, maybe.22:28
BUGabundoBert_2: why wait?22:28
BUGabundojust wait for the python rebuild to be over and update-manager -d22:29
Bert_2BUGabundo: I was too lazy to update to intrepid and I really need a clean install (and now going to intrepid is just plain silly)22:29
Bert_2BUGabundo: but I'm going to bed now, thank you for your help ;)22:31
BUGabundomp22:32
BUGabundonp22:32
anderskAnyone from ubuntu-bugcontrol available?22:43
Ampelbeinandersk: yeah, what's your wish?22:45
Ampelbein;-)22:45
anderskPlease set the priority of bug 289921 to High, bug 306835 to Medium, and bug 302226 to Low?  (Or whatever you judge to be appropriate; those are my assessments.)22:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 289921 in open-vm-tools "network interface does not come up after installing open-vm-tools" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28992122:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 306835 in open-vm-tools "vmware-guestd crashing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30683522:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 302226 in open-vm-tools "vmware-user doesn't autostart" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30222622:46
Ampelbeinlooking22:47
Ampelbeinandersk: done. nice work triaging btw.22:51

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