[00:46] check this out http://tinyurl.com/rolfxd lol === asac_ is now known as asac [02:03] ok i've made up to feb 21st bugmails ... tomorrow would be another day.. [02:37] andresmujica: don't worry you'll end up with 10 more new ones tomorrow :D [03:27] The desktop CD isn't meant to have packages on it, right? bug 335902 [03:27] Launchpad bug 335902 in software-properties "Install cdrom isn't recognized as a package source" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335902 [03:36] Hew: It has a few packages, yes. build-essential and some others. http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.list search for the deb files [03:36] (theyre all in /pool/ obviously enough) [03:37] Flannel: Yes, that's what I thought. So the question is, should they appear as a software source? I seem to remember they were in previous releases. [03:41] It makes sense that it ought to be, yes. [03:46] they are needed for e.g. installing ndiswrapper-based wifi devices using ndisgtk [03:47] as downloading them before wifi works is quite a "catch 22" ;) === MTecknology is now known as Microsoft === Microsoft is now known as MTecknology [04:44] evening everyone [04:44] I've been working on getting bug 332211 triaged [04:44] Launchpad bug 332211 in hal "Cannot change screen brightness on Lenovo X61" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332211 [04:45] I think the user has everything a developer would need [04:45] this shold probably be placed on a low priority as it requires specific hardware === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [08:22] Should this bug be set to high? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtorrent-rasterbar/+bug/335741 [08:22] Ubuntu bug 335741 in libtorrent-rasterbar "[jaunty]python(<2.6)-based apps cannot meet dependencies" [Undecided,New] [08:26] ziroday`: ignore it for 3 days and itll go away [08:26] er oh wait < 2.6 [08:26] python 2.5 is still availale [08:26] *available [08:27] sure they can [08:28] individual packages may need to be updated to say "python2.5" instead of "python" in the depends and in the #! /usr/bin/python [08:28] maco: right [08:29] maco: so refile the bug against deluge? [08:29] or in this case python-libtorrent [11:01] question : what i have to do weed old bugs regarding no more supported ubuntu version (7.04 for exemple) ? [11:02] -weed + with ^^' [11:12] YoBoY: if they don't occur on a later version of ubuntu, close them and leave a note to that effect. [11:12] er, where later == later, still supported [11:17] well i can't test all, i put the "Old untouched bugs" response and wait for april to close them === thiras_ is now known as Thiras [13:57] moo [14:01] hey any difference in these bugs? bug 336253 and bug 334373 ? [14:01] Launchpad bug 336253 in geda-gattrib "Please sync geda-gattrib 1:1.4.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main). (dup-of: 334373)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336253 [14:01] Launchpad bug 334373 in geda-gattrib "Please sync geda-gattrib 1:1.4.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334373 [14:01] both were opened up by the same person.. and the very ame person closed one as duplicate [14:02] gah, I hate it when apport auto marks as dupe, and removes all the useful attachments.. [14:02] tuxmaniac: They almost certainly reported it twice by accident [14:03] some times apport fails to do a full upload [14:03] well then the new one is supposed to be marked duplicate. not the old one and this is not the first time. [14:03] so I get a partial bug, and don't even have the ID [14:04] BUGabundo: I mean when a user successfully reports a bug, but the retracer thinks it's a duplicate (whether it is or not), and removes the stacktrace you're waiting for.. [14:05] yeah nauty retracer [14:06] it's quite frustrating, this is the second time I've had problems with it recently [14:06] bug 322614 [14:06] Launchpad bug 322614 in transmission "transmission crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322614 [14:07] I wonder if removing the needs-duplicate-check tag would stop it.. [14:08] anyone know if there's some documentation on the retracer somewhere? it's a mystery to me [14:09] that should prevent it [14:10] is it not a duplicate of the one that it is marking it a duplicate of? [14:10] or are you just trying to do something unusual? [14:11] james_w: The stacktrace was rejected upstream as being from an old version, while the duplicate is from the latest version. [14:11] ah [14:11] the code obviously hasn't changed that much then :-) [14:12] james_w: There was another large bug the other day that started collecting bugs from a new issue [14:12] james_w: Yes, it sounds like the same issue, but upstream wants a new retrace :-) [14:13] by the way [14:14] have any of your guys eared about probs with the new nvidia driver and hibernate? [14:14] twice now (on separate times) after Resume, my X spawns a new Session [14:15] Bug 335465 [14:15] Launchpad bug 335465 in xorg "resume from hibernation crashed X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335465 [14:17] BUGabundo: I'm always hearing about resume / suspend / hibernate issues. I don't use those features, fortunately. [14:18] I do! a lot! [14:18] you must have a really fast boot [14:18] or don't want to save stuff between sessions [14:19] BUGabundo: I'm using a desktop, I get the feeling most others are on laptops. [14:19] BUGabundo: I prefer doing fresh starts every day :-) [14:20] bah [14:20] my work pc, got hibernated every day, and lasted about 2 or 3 months [14:20] then, I had to do a fresh reboot [14:20] If I do turn my work machine off for the weekend it's suspend [14:21] haven't rebooted on over 50 days :) [14:22] nice === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [17:48] hi. I can't seem to be able to mount a USB mass storage device in jaunty. dmesg reports it correctly but nautilus does nothing. can anyone help? [17:50] salty-horse: hi [17:50] jump over to #ubuntu+1 [17:50] we will help you there [17:52] hi, just filed bug 336326, what else can I provide? [17:52] Launchpad bug 336326 in bluez "bluetoothd crashed with SIGSEGV in calloc()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336326 [18:13] hi [18:24] YoBoY: hi [18:39] hi yoboy [18:42] is there an X specific troubleshoot channel? [18:43] alex_mayorga1: there's #ubuntu-x [18:43] #xorg perhaps? [18:43] but its not exacly meant for support [18:44] there's #ubuntu for general troublshooting [18:44] or can anyone take a look at bug 146706 to rule out my own stupidity? [18:44] Launchpad bug 146706 in xorg-server "[Intrepid] Live cd graphics fail with nvidia geforce4 440 go " [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146706 [18:44] u can try at the wiki the troubleshooting guide for X [18:44] and #ubuntu+1 for devel versions [18:48] alex_mayorga1: you could comment on the upstream report so they know it is not only on hardy [18:53] How can I report dependency problem for a lot of python modules in jaunty? [18:54] folke: better wait a few days before reporting them [18:54] we are currently in a python transition [18:54] so please leave us some time to finish it [18:54] geser, I guessed that there was looked at [18:55] thnx for the answer [18:55] folke: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000541.html [18:56] geser: since opening bugs is not good, the only way to know if a certain package has been rebuilt is to go testing? [18:56] BUGabundo: either that or check LP for the last version in jaunty [18:57] BUGabundo: it's not really about opening bugs as I check bugs when I do the transition upload [18:58] see gwibber: Depends: python-webkitgtk [18:58] I need to know when that package gets rebuild so I can use gwibber again [18:59] BUGabundo: in case of python-webkitgtk there is a sync request open and I wanted to talk to huats about it before introducing ubuntu delta which gets lost [19:00] bah [19:00] then it will take EVEN longer [19:00] gwibber already depends on the most recent version [19:00] BUGabundo: I just don't to interfere with huats work [19:01] I know [19:01] no pressure [19:01] LOL [19:02] geser, Is there anywhere I can see this info, so that we don't fill in to many bugs? [19:02] folke: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000541.html [19:03] BUGabundo, So all the syncs and stuff is announced there? [19:04] folke: please check LP about the latest version before opening bugs, so you don't open bugs for packages which just need to be rebuild and distributed to the mirrors [19:05] folke: sync request are filed as bugs, so you should see them when you check if a similar bug for your problem is already filed [20:30] howdy [20:30] I've got a kernel bug that still hasn't been addressed [20:31] it's completely debugged, it's got a patch to fix the issue and everything [20:31] * Laibsch lets doko know about some issues with upgrading to python 2.6 that he documented in bug 331461 [20:31] Launchpad bug 331461 in python-defaults "python2.6 support/defaults in jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331461 [20:31] tcole: what number? [20:31] bug #300143 [20:31] Launchpad bug 300143 in linux "tablet devices show up as non-functional joysticks" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300143 [20:32] tcole: You should report this upstream [20:32] bugzilla.kernel.org [20:32] it isn't an upstream bug [20:32] no [20:32] no [20:32] Oh, OK [20:32] it's specifically with our patched kernel [20:32] the bug doens't exist upstream [20:32] Sorry, I need to read further, then [20:33] * tcole adds a note to the bug description [20:33] maybe people are seeing kernel bug and thinking "oh, that should be upstream" and then ignoring it [20:33] Hehe [20:33] Very possible [20:34] tcole: Maybe you want to take up this issue in #ubuntu-kernel [20:34] More focused channel [20:34] maybe I'd better [20:34] tcole: Have you verified this for Jaunty kernel? [20:35] verified to be a problem [20:35] I hadn't yet [20:35] it still seems like it should get fixed in Intrepid though [20:36] The usual route is to fix it in the upcoming release first [20:36] and possibly make a stable-release-update later [20:36] :( [20:37] at least it's pretty easy to check just by examining the sources [20:38] tcole: that is nothing to be sorry about [20:38] that is just the usual route [20:38] I've made a few changes that I hope should get your bug a bit of more attention [20:39] thank you [20:39] LP seems to be the place where bugs go to die these days :/ [20:39] every little bit helps [20:40] Hm, you can help LP become more responsive [20:40] I don't have any problems getting the fixes uploaded [20:40] even into old releases [20:40] It does take some nagging from time to time in IRC, that is true [20:40] and a bit of knowledge how to get attention to bugs [20:41] I guess that is to be expected with the overwhelming task at hand [20:41] I just checked the .diff.gz and it looks like the issue is still unfixed in Jaunty kernels [20:41] tcole: You should help with bug triaging, you'll become more knowledgeable about how to push fixes into the release and you'll tremendously help ubuntu [20:42] I've done a bit; I guess I should do more [20:42] tcole: OK, make a comment to that effect. Please also download the daily Jaunty ISO and boot from CD/USB or whatever to make really sure [20:42] tcole: awesome, thanks for what you've done already [20:43] I can tell the work you did in the bug you mentioned here is very high quality [20:43] thank you [22:01] Hi, this question seems like a bug https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+question/62647 but I don't know what I should do with it and what things I need to have this guy do to get the right info, any help ? [22:05] You could advise him to file a bug, with reference to where to file it and the information needed [22:06] charlie-tca: well, we probably need to tail of syslog, but I don't know the commands to get that info and I think he's quite new to ubuntu or not very techy [22:07] Here is the reference for the information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend [22:07] He can follow that and attach the files it says [22:08] Someone will triage it and ask for more information or logs if needed [22:09] charlie-tca: the guy is having poweroff and reboot problems, we're not talking about suspend [22:09] or is this the same in this case ? [22:10] Sorry, I saw "i cannot return from hibernate or suspend mode." and thought that was a problem [22:11] Need to find out what is really wrong, maybe. [22:11] charlie-tca: nope, his laptop does not poweroff, I think his kernel panics before it can shutdown or something, but I don't know how I'm supposed to check it [22:12] So that happens even before it hibernates or suspends? [22:12] charlie-tca: he tries to poweroff or reboot [22:12] and then it happens [22:12] he has to shut it down with a hardpress [22:13] because it's stuck [22:13] Bert_2: I got that some time ago [22:13] it was nividia driver in my case [22:13] BUGabundo1: so how did you fix it ? [22:13] dunno [22:13] it was long ago [22:13] new kernel I guess [22:14] aaah, okey [22:14] well, I'd like to help this guy [22:14] as usual ogasawara came to the rescue [22:14] Bert_2: is he in ibex? [22:14] hardy [22:14] ask him to enable backports [22:14] and install the newest kernel there, plus the backport module [22:14] BUGabundo1: should I warn him about that backports is unsupported ? [22:14] it usually fixes a lot [22:15] or is backports supported ? [22:15] just update the kernel, and then comment it [22:15] k [22:15] if you or him don't want them [22:16] I have no problem with backports but I'm not sure if he's a business guy or not [22:16] just update the kernel, and then comment it [22:17] won't it be easier if I just tell him to enable it permanently [22:17] cause I'm not sure how I should explain to him how to only update certain packages [22:17] eheh [22:18] he still needs to look for the kernel [22:18] it won't be installed automagicly [22:18] much less the backport module [22:18] won't it be marked as update ? [22:18] damn, how am I going to explain the guy how to install another kernel (I'm not even sure what it's going to be called like) [22:19] VNC to his PC? [22:19] I love the new jaunty vino [22:19] it has uPNP [22:19] it should be backported [22:20] uPnP, does that mean it can bypass the fact that there are many computers behind one external IP ? [22:20] no no [22:20] that's NAT [22:20] owyeah, woops [22:20] but that's still a big issue for me [22:20] uPNP will open the router ports [22:20] once you start vino [22:21] there are a lot of people using a modem+router with different computers behind [22:21] so it just gives you the external IP and port [22:21] and the remote user can then login [22:21] Bert_2: IPv6.... [22:21] no more prob [22:21] yeah, but that's going to take another 5 to 20 years... [22:22] if it does we will be out of IPv4 [22:23] I know [22:23] but addaption rates are far to low [22:24] the backport kernel, does it have the word backport in its name ? [22:25] BUGabundo: I can only find linux-backports-modules stuff, no new kernel apparently [22:26] no [22:26] its just a higher version [22:26] but AFAIK it will install unless forced [22:27] maybe its pin down [22:27] or the metapackage doesn't mention ut [22:27] *it [22:27] Hardy was TOO long ago [22:27] I'm on jaunty [22:27] Can someone please set the priority of bug 289921 to High, bug 306835 to Medium, and bug 302226 to Low? (Or whatever you judge to be appropriate; those are my assessments.) [22:27] Launchpad bug 289921 in open-vm-tools "network interface does not come up after installing open-vm-tools" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289921 [22:27] Launchpad bug 306835 in open-vm-tools "vmware-guestd crashing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306835 [22:27] Launchpad bug 302226 in open-vm-tools "vmware-user doesn't autostart" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/302226 [22:28] I'm not doing intrepid, I'm going straight to jaunty when it's in betaµ [22:28] I could see 302226 being Medium, maybe. [22:28] Bert_2: why wait? [22:29] just wait for the python rebuild to be over and update-manager -d [22:29] BUGabundo: I was too lazy to update to intrepid and I really need a clean install (and now going to intrepid is just plain silly) [22:31] BUGabundo: but I'm going to bed now, thank you for your help ;) [22:32] mp [22:32] np [22:43] Anyone from ubuntu-bugcontrol available? [22:45] andersk: yeah, what's your wish? [22:45] ;-) [22:46] Please set the priority of bug 289921 to High, bug 306835 to Medium, and bug 302226 to Low? (Or whatever you judge to be appropriate; those are my assessments.) [22:46] Launchpad bug 289921 in open-vm-tools "network interface does not come up after installing open-vm-tools" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289921 [22:46] Launchpad bug 306835 in open-vm-tools "vmware-guestd crashing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306835 [22:46] Launchpad bug 302226 in open-vm-tools "vmware-user doesn't autostart" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/302226 [22:47] looking [22:51] andersk: done. nice work triaging btw.