| temperature | How to enable cpufreq on 8.10 server. "$cpufreq-info" gives " analyzing CPU 7: | 00:25 |
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| temperature | no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU" | 00:25 |
| MatBoy | mhh, ubuntu has an old clamav :S | 00:28 |
| giovani | MatBoy: distributions don't release instant updates -- the scanner doesn't need to be new ... it's the signatures that do | 00:35 |
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| * Nafallo wonders how much he'll loose in speed to install a cgi php rather than a module. | 01:38 | |
| ScottK | MatBoy: What release are you on? | 01:38 |
| Nafallo | hardy | 01:38 |
| Nafallo | drupal box. | 01:38 |
| ScottK | Current clamav is in hardy-backports | 01:38 |
| Nafallo | oh | 01:38 |
| Nafallo | that wasn't for me :-P | 01:39 |
| ScottK | No, that's why I said MatBoy. | 01:39 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 01:39 |
| Nafallo | yea. just require me reading as well ;-) | 01:39 |
| * Nafallo looks at the manually selected packages he have and frowns | 01:41 | |
| Nafallo | drupal5, php5-cgi, php5-pgsql, postgresql, postgresql-client-8.3 | 01:41 |
| Nafallo | I should probably check into suphp as well, no? | 01:42 |
| Nafallo | god damn postfix... jesus. | 01:44 |
| hads | Language | 01:49 |
| temperature | anybody any idea why cpu temp raises 10° just from upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 server? | 02:08 |
| stainer | there is a bug about temps https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/67906 | 02:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 67906 in linux "CPU Temperature significantly higher in Edgy than in Dapper" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 02:10 |
| giovani | Nafallo: what's wrong with postfix? | 02:29 |
| lamont | Nafallo: it's called Reverse Polar Notation, not postfix. :-p | 02:31 |
| Nafallo | giovani: drupal requires and MTA for whatever random reason ;-) | 02:31 |
| Nafallo | lamont: ha! :-P | 02:31 |
| giovani | why on earth would you use drupal? | 02:31 |
| giovani | it's awful | 02:31 |
| Nafallo | lamont: I wanted to ask you about something anyway! | 02:31 |
| Nafallo | giovani: because my customer wants it. | 02:32 |
| giovani | get better customers | 02:32 |
| Nafallo | lamont: still around? | 02:32 |
| giovani | or convince them not to use it | 02:32 |
| Nafallo | giovani: *shrugs* do not care. | 02:32 |
| temperature | anybody know how to get coufreq running on 64-bit xeons? Other than recompiling the kernel I find no answer through google. | 02:34 |
| giovani | temperature: referencing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/163398 ? | 02:38 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 163398 in linux "CPU Frequency Throttling not working on Xeon EM64T" [Undecided,New] | 02:38 |
| giovani | seems it's just passed down from the debian kernel -- since there's a debian bug for the same problem | 02:38 |
| temperature | .... | 02:38 |
| giovani | enough people have confirmed it that it's clearly just a bug ... either wait for it to get fixed, or, like you said, compile your own kernel | 02:38 |
| ScottK | giovani: We don't get our kernel from Debian. | 02:38 |
| giovani | ScottK: kernel patches aren't copied from debian at all? | 02:39 |
| ScottK | It may be from time to time, but Ubuntu takes it's kernel from upstream directly. | 02:39 |
| ScottK | We're generally on a newer version of the kernel than they are. | 02:40 |
| giovani | newer than what's in sid? | 02:40 |
| giovani | anyway, it's here in debian as well: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=489058 | 02:40 |
| uvirtbot | Debian bug 489058 in linux-2.6 "2.6.25-2-amd64: acpi_cpufreq won't load on Xeon E5420" [Normal,Open] | 02:40 |
| giovani | the official cpufreq site states xeon support from what I can tell -- so it seems odd the same bug would be present in both if it's not an upstream bug | 02:41 |
| giovani | just what I could find, do with it what you will :) | 02:41 |
| ScottK | Could be an upstream bug in common. | 02:42 |
| lamont | Nafallo: sup? | 02:42 |
| lamont | bouncing back and forth | 02:42 |
| Nafallo | lamont: on the master dns server. I can use the same database file for multiple zones, right? :-) | 02:43 |
| Nafallo | lamont: it's the same data in them anyway :-) | 02:43 |
| lamont | same file? | 02:43 |
| lamont | see named.conf.local in the deb. :-p | 02:43 |
| Nafallo | lamont: same zone file :-) | 02:43 |
| lamont | all rfc1918 zones share 'db.empty' | 02:43 |
| Nafallo | ah. fair enough :-) | 02:43 |
| temperature | well... I mean, it`s not like it`s some stupid GUI bug... | 02:43 |
| Nafallo | haha | 02:44 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 02:44 |
| Nafallo | I actually have to repoint .com for this customer to another zone file because .com doesn't love my ns1 under .net ;-) | 02:44 |
| lamont | huh? | 02:45 |
| Nafallo | the registrar didn't recognise ns1.magicalforest.net for some reason, so I named it ns1.magicalforest.se and everything got happy ;-) | 02:46 |
| lamont | ah, that's simple: bitchslap the registrar | 02:46 |
| Nafallo | :-P | 02:46 |
| lamont | I mean, send them a nice request saying "my nameserver is ns1.magicalforest.net, please make that work. kthx" | 02:47 |
| Nafallo | not even sure what upstream registrar fasthosts use :-/ | 02:47 |
| lamont | dead serious about the concept | 02:47 |
| lamont | your registrar | 02:47 |
| lamont | the one what you're paying money to. | 02:47 |
| Nafallo | hehe. I'll tell my customer ;-) | 02:47 |
| lamont | dig ns mmjgroup.com <-- I had to tell my registrar to make the .no host happy | 02:48 |
| Nafallo | gaah. your damn domains just remind me I'm lacking IPv6 still :-P | 02:49 |
| * Nafallo slapped a one-liner in terms of xhtml ;-) | 02:53 | |
| lamont | giggle | 02:56 |
| * lamont goes back to the movie | 02:57 | |
| AJ247 | is ther a minimalist DM for ubuntu running 640MB ram? | 03:53 |
| hads | DM? | 03:57 |
| giovani | hads: Desktop Manager, I presume | 04:06 |
| giovani | AJ247: XFCE is widely chosen for being pretty lean, yet featureful, and not "ugly" like many people feel options like fluxbox are | 04:06 |
| giovani | xubuntu packages XFCE automatically, of course you can install the packages on another install | 04:07 |
| hads | screen :) | 04:07 |
| AJ247 | giovani: yes. | 04:07 |
| giovani | AJ247: is something like XFCE what you're looking for? | 04:08 |
| AJ247 | Yes. XFCE will be fine. | 04:08 |
| AJ247 | how do i install on ubunut-server? | 04:09 |
| giovani | AJ247: the easiest way would be to 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' | 04:09 |
| AJ247 | Alrihght. | 04:09 |
| giovani | which will essentially "convert" your minimalist server install to a full xubuntu install | 04:09 |
| giovani | you can, however, install individual xfce packages manually if you want | 04:09 |
| giovani | in the future, you can do a xubuntu install initially using this: http://www.xubuntu.org/ | 04:10 |
| AJ247 | Well, i only have 640MB installed, so im looking for performance | 04:10 |
| giovani | is this system to be used as a server, or as a desktop? | 04:11 |
| AJ247 | Server | 04:11 |
| giovani | then why do you want a graphical interface? | 04:11 |
| ScottK | But help with dealing with Xfce is OT here. | 04:11 |
| giovani | there's no advantage on a server install | 04:11 |
| AJ247 | to easily manage via command line | 04:11 |
| hads | huh? | 04:12 |
| giovani | AJ247: I recommend you look at remotely managing your server via ssh from a desktop -- it'll give you the option of virtual terminals within a gui -- without bloating your server | 04:12 |
| AJ247 | i have, im using putty. | 04:13 |
| giovani | then that's the best way to manage your server -- do not install a gui of any kind | 04:13 |
| AJ247 | well i was just thinking if it would be best to do so, thank you. | 04:13 |
| giovani | ok, the answer is definitely not :) | 04:14 |
| giovani | good luck | 04:14 |
| AJ247 | lol | 04:14 |
| AJ247 | ?question, | 04:14 |
| AJ247 | do you know how to clear mbr from a hard drive? | 04:14 |
| giovani | be careful, but dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/XXX bs=512 count=1 | 04:16 |
| giovani | replace XXX with your HD device | 04:16 |
| * giovani & | 04:17 | |
| AJ247 | k. | 04:18 |
| mrUnagi | can anyone help me with info on vpns? | 04:22 |
| twb | giovani: that will kill the partition table, too | 04:22 |
| twb | giovani: you want bs=446 or so | 04:22 |
| mrUnagi | =/ | 04:23 |
| JanC | twb: as the partition table is part of the MBR, that shouldn't be a surprise ;) | 04:33 |
| giovani | twb: yeah ... MBR = 512 | 04:34 |
| Deeps | a lot of people dont realise the partition table is part of the MBR | 04:35 |
| Deeps | the kind of people that would ask in here, for example, may not realise that | 04:36 |
| danny723 | anyone home? | 04:36 |
| giovani | danny723: plenty, as you can see | 04:37 |
| * lamont has been home for about 2 hours | 04:42 | |
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| danny723 | hello | 05:56 |
| twb | JanC: well sure, but I'd want the reader to be sure they wanted to blow away the partition table, and not just the bootloader. | 07:05 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #336153 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.0.67-0ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: il sottoprocesso pre-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336153 | 09:00 |
| substr | hi, is ubuntu-9.04.2-server stable enough to use it in a soho environment? | 09:20 |
| twb | substr: there's no simple answer to that question. | 10:47 |
| twb | substr: by stability, do you mean "will it crash", or "will it receive feature updates (which tend to introduce bugs)", or "can I 'deploy and forget' in three-year cycles" or something else? | 10:49 |
| twb | Are you comparing it to, say, Microsoft SBS, or Debian, or OpenBSD? | 10:50 |
| twb | *I* wouldn't be too worried about an Ubuntu server, but the guy who sits next to me worries because (unlike RHEL) Ubuntu doesn't have a "proven track record" in the server space, and Canonical clearly places first priority on the desktop. | 10:51 |
| twb | ...but then I have enough Debian experience to fix most issues I encounter. | 10:52 |
| cemc | any good bittorrent tracker in ubuntu hardy? | 13:42 |
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| substr | twb: sorry, I was away when you answered.. | 14:09 |
| substr | well.. my first task is to set up a small fileserver. later on it might also get used as database server and whatever will be needed further on | 14:10 |
| substr | thinking about which distibution to choose, my first ifea was gentoo because its very tiny.. but even hard to setup | 14:12 |
| substr | next idea was kubuntu, because im using it on my workstation and its very fast and easy to setup... but due to the old hardware I actualy got its running very slow | 14:14 |
| substr | (i tried with the live-cd) | 14:14 |
| substr | so im looking for something thats not too hard to setup and even small enough to run on crappy hardware | 14:15 |
| gkahla | anyone know if Alfresco's compatibility issues will be fixed with 9.04 server edition? | 14:47 |
| gkahla | or, for that matter, what the exact compatibility issues are? | 14:47 |
| gkahla | Alfresco won't work on 8.10 | 14:48 |
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| danny723 | hey guys | 16:41 |
| sozob | help...I am new to server...I just installed ubuntu x64 and I really wanted gnome..just no games/gimp/openoffice/etc. Is there a good way to add gnome/synaptic/gpanel-goodies to the ubuntu server? I am going to add virtualbox to the machine so I will need all that stuff. I also want to add firefox..but that is about it....Thank you. | 16:56 |
| giovani | sozob: you can install the individual packages | 17:00 |
| giovani | but there's no easy metapackage that won't install the other utilities you'd like to avoid | 17:01 |
| Deeps | and it's also off topic, GUI related stuff is best asked in #ubuntu | 17:02 |
| sozob | darn...thanks... | 17:02 |
| giovani | well, but the question is in reference to a server install, and adding packages to it? | 17:02 |
| giovani | but ok | 17:02 |
| sozob | thats why I tried here | 17:02 |
| sozob | ;) | 17:02 |
| ScottK | giovani: Once you talk about Gnome, you aren't talking about Server. | 17:02 |
| ScottK | err sozob... | 17:03 |
| sozob | theres lots of services that a server could be used for that would need a gui.... | 17:04 |
| giovani | sozob: not really | 17:05 |
| sozob | websphere has a gui | 17:05 |
| giovani | that's required? | 17:06 |
| giovani | just because a product offers a gui doesn't mean that it's recommended | 17:06 |
| sozob | all the installs I've done require it | 17:06 |
| sozob | no matter the os | 17:07 |
| giovani | and what graphics toolkit does it use? | 17:07 |
| sozob | well it uses java, which uses.... | 17:07 |
| giovani | what a mess | 17:07 |
| giovani | use rhel then | 17:07 |
| giovani | they like guis on their servers | 17:07 |
| sozob | no...I like ubuntu | 17:07 |
| sozob | ;) | 17:08 |
| sozob | no worries, I will get it going...I may be better off starting at desktop...yuck!!!! | 17:08 |
| giovani | well you can install a gui on top of ubuntu server ... but nobody here recommends it | 17:08 |
| sozob | i am sure you don't | 17:09 |
| sozob | i don't either | 17:09 |
| sozob | but there are occasions | 17:09 |
| Deeps | recommended or not, GUIs are outside the scope of this channel, and you're better served asking in #ubuntu | 17:09 |
| sozob | wonder if the server kernel will play nice with all that "desktop"ish stuff on it....any ideas | 17:09 |
| danny723 | sup | 17:13 |
| slogger_ | hi, I installed ubuntu server 8.10 yesterday, added bare minimum X to system so I could look stuff up on websites while configuring | 18:15 |
| slogger_ | The groups listed for my user by the id command are different depending on whether I'm logged in a VT or a gui. | 18:15 |
| slogger_ | Namely, under GUI, my membership in the group 'users' is not recognized | 18:16 |
| slogger_ | While it is from the VT terminals | 18:16 |
| slogger_ | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1083539 | 18:17 |
| Deeps | slogger_: GUI related issues are off topic here, and are best served in #ubuntu | 18:21 |
| slogger_ | okay, I thought it might be related to using server version, but I'll check #ubuntu, though they usually just post links to stupid wiki pages I've already looked at. | 18:22 |
| Noah0504 | Should I take the time to upgrade my server box from 256MB of RAM to 512MB? | 18:25 |
| giovani | Noah0504: if you want to, sure | 18:27 |
| Noah0504 | Well, I have the RAM, but don't really feel like pulling it out. Ha. I know last night it stopped responding to the network. It's headless, so I don't really know what was happening. I did have rTorrent running though. I thought maybe it was a RAM issue and it wasn't liking life. | 18:28 |
| giovani | sigh ... well, nobody here has a magic 8 ball | 18:29 |
| giovani | so that's simply up to yo | 18:29 |
| giovani | you* | 18:29 |
| Noah0504 | Ha. Perhaps I was just looking for the motivation. | 18:29 |
| Noah0504 | :) | 18:29 |
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| cemc | Noah0504: run a memtest | 18:39 |
| yann2 | nijaba > thx for rabbitmq in jaunty, very good idea :) | 19:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #336368 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.67-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336368 | 19:55 |
| Derander | I've completely borked up my mysql install to the point where I want to start over completely. Is there a way to get aptitude to reinstall the original test & mysql tables? | 20:56 |
| MatBoy | what are you guys doing with dcc on intrepid ? it's not in there anymore ofcourse | 21:21 |
| giovani | not using it | 21:29 |
| giovani | although it is odd, unless there's a specific reason that it's disappeared | 21:29 |
| giovani | oh, I see -- it's a security issue | 21:30 |
| Davedan2 | what are ppa packages and is it safe to use them? for example: https://launchpad.net/~onestone/+archive/ppa | 21:34 |
| giovani | Davedan2: Personal Package Archie | 21:35 |
| giovani | Archive* | 21:35 |
| cemc | Davedan2: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA | 21:35 |
| giovani | they're totally unsupported by ubuntu, they're packages built by the user you see in the url, use them if you like, but, they're "unofficial" | 21:35 |
| cemc | maybe not the best link... | 21:36 |
| Davedan2 | giovani: thanks. ubuntu packages are great but sometime take months to get updated... :( | 21:36 |
| giovani | Davedan2: there are reasons behind those policies, newer software often introduces new, untested code, with a higher probability of security vulnerabilities in it | 21:37 |
| giovani | it's a delicate balancing act -- you have to decide what risks you're comfortable with | 21:37 |
| Davedan2 | ok | 21:37 |
| giovani | as a general rule of thumb, unless you need a feature/bugfix that's only present in the newer release, there's no good reason to be using a newer release | 21:38 |
| Davedan2 | giovani: I developed a module that works with the newer release but didn't know it'll take months to have a package | 21:40 |
| giovani | Davedan2: most distributions use a policy of only fixing bugs once there's a release | 21:40 |
| giovani | since there's a release every 6 months in Ubuntu (roughly) ... the software is usually pretty new | 21:40 |
| Davedan2 | giovani: so maybe I can count on jaunty | 21:41 |
| giovani | you can look up what upstream version is in use in jaunty | 21:41 |
| giovani | what package is this? | 21:41 |
| MatBoy | giovani: ok :) | 21:41 |
| Davedan2 | ejabberd | 21:42 |
| Davedan2 | on Jaunty it is the latest | 21:42 |
| MatBoy | giovani: I thought it was a "closed source" issue | 21:42 |
| giovani | MatBoy: ah, did the license change? I found reference via google that it was related to a bugfix that couldn't be backported | 21:44 |
| giovani | (at least for debian) | 21:44 |
| giovani | dantalizing: intrepid includes 2.0.1 -- seems quite new to me | 21:44 |
| MatBoy | so it should also for ubuntu I guess in that case | 21:44 |
| giovani | err, Davedan2 | 21:44 |
| MatBoy | intrepid also includes the new clamav... finally :) | 21:44 |
| giovani | Davedan2: the newest release is 2.0.3 which jaunty does include, yes | 21:45 |
| giovani | you wrote a module that will only work with 2.0.3 but not 2.0.1? | 21:45 |
| Davedan2 | giovani: yes | 21:45 |
| giovani | heh | 21:46 |
| giovani | ok | 21:46 |
| giovani | maybe you'd be better off running a source-based distro :) | 21:46 |
| Davedan2 | giovani: I'll build it from source and use the package when Jaunty is up. probably take some months | 21:46 |
| giovani | jaunty is up | 21:46 |
| Davedan2 | giovani: thanks | 21:46 |
| giovani | it's in alpha | 21:46 |
| giovani | you can try to use the package -- but be ready for potential dependency messes | 21:46 |
| Davedan2 | giovani: from experience using alpha means alot of truble | 21:47 |
| MatBoy | giovani: source based ?? man gentoo suck big time... perios | 21:47 |
| MatBoy | *period | 21:47 |
| giovani | MatBoy: not if you want the absolute newest versions of everything -- then it's quite ideal | 21:47 |
| giovani | or desire a lot of fine-grained control | 21:47 |
| MatBoy | hehe, fine-frainded ? we don't live in the 386 time anymore :) | 21:48 |
| MatBoy | bleeding edge :S | 21:48 |
| giovani | I know a number of enterprises using gentoo in large clusters | 21:48 |
| giovani | they see benefit in it | 21:48 |
| MatBoy | I also... hyves | 21:48 |
| giovani | and their admins are not inexperienced in the least | 21:48 |
| MatBoy | with 2200 servers :S | 21:48 |
| Davedan2 | but we live in the web 2.0 times... | 21:48 |
| MatBoy | hehe | 21:48 |
| giovani | Davedan2: ... what does web 2.0 have to do with anything? | 21:48 |
| giovani | "bleeding-edge" is relative | 21:49 |
| MatBoy | not with gentoo | 21:49 |
| giovani | many upstreams do a lot of careful bug-checking before releases -- many do not | 21:49 |
| MatBoy | whole gentoo is bleeding edge | 21:49 |
| giovani | you can't generalize | 21:49 |
| Davedan2 | giovani: everything moves fast so you can't wait 6 months for a package when a new feature is already out | 21:49 |
| giovani | it's all dependent on the upstream | 21:49 |
| MatBoy | nah, not really | 21:49 |
| giovani | yep | 21:50 |
| giovani | for all of our security software (read: snort), we HAVE to have the latest, yesterday bug fix | 21:50 |
| MatBoy | version issues between packages are not upstream dependent | 21:50 |
| giovani | so, we make our own packages | 21:50 |
| MatBoy | hehe, how relative is that ? | 21:50 |
| MatBoy | making a deb is not difficult at all :D | 21:50 |
| MatBoy | rpm the same | 21:50 |
| giovani | how relative? | 21:50 |
| giovani | who said it was difficult? | 21:51 |
| giovani | maybe you're misunderstanding me | 21:51 |
| MatBoy | yes, all people that say "we make our own packages" most of the time say this because they think everyone uses debs because they can't install a system | 21:51 |
| giovani | all people that say? | 21:51 |
| giovani | you need to learn to stop generalizing | 21:51 |
| MatBoy | no reallyu | 21:51 |
| MatBoy | not here in general; | 21:52 |
| MatBoy | but centos is like it | 21:52 |
| MatBoy | gentoo | 21:52 |
| MatBoy | uhm | 21:52 |
| MatBoy | the users there :) | 21:52 |
| MatBoy | in #vmware we don't even support gentoo :) | 21:52 |
| MatBoy | bbl.. need to fix an issue | 21:52 |
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| cemc | what's the correct way to change the editor crontab -e uses? | 23:00 |
| cemc | the default is nano on my Hardy but I would like vi | 23:00 |
| cemc | man says the $EDITOR or $VISUAL gets used, or if those aren't defined, /usr/bin/editor is used (which is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/editor -> nano) | 23:01 |
| MatBoy | cemc: just edit crontab with vi ? | 23:01 |
| cemc | I could do that, of course. but I would like to try the correct way :) | 23:01 |
| cemc | with crontab -u <user> -e | 23:02 |
| MatBoy | ah ok | 23:02 |
| MatBoy | you need to do it for users | 23:02 |
| MatBoy | mhh | 23:02 |
| MatBoy | I like nano so much :) | 23:02 |
| cemc | yep. not the main /etc/crontab | 23:02 |
| MatBoy | aha, sounds logical | 23:04 |
| cemc | ok, I've got it | 23:05 |
| cemc | update-alternatives --config editor | 23:05 |
| MatBoy | :) | 23:05 |
| MatBoy | ah nice | 23:05 |
| cemc | and you can select from the available installed editors | 23:05 |
| MatBoy | aha :) | 23:06 |
| MatBoy | hehe, I'm figuring out how to use amavis using mysql | 23:06 |
| MatBoy | :S | 23:06 |
| cemc | ;) | 23:06 |
| cemc | maybe you wanna try maia mailguard | 23:06 |
| cemc | = amavis + spamassasin + mysql + some web gui to manage it | 23:07 |
| MatBoy | no, no maia !! | 23:08 |
| MatBoy | ouch | 23:08 |
| cemc | ;) | 23:08 |
| MatBoy | webavis is nicer | 23:08 |
| MatBoy | but, I can't find any docs how amavis pulls it's info from a db | 23:08 |
| MatBoy | amavis already runs | 23:09 |
| hads | If you want it system wide then update-alternatives, per user then use the VISUAL/EDITOR env vars | 23:09 |
| twb | Of course, you don't need antivirus scanners in the first place unless you have Windows users... | 23:09 |
| cemc | MatBoy: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/README.sql.txt - maybe this will help ? | 23:10 |
| MatBoy | cemc: that might do :) | 23:10 |
| MatBoy | even google didn't came up with that ! | 23:10 |
| MatBoy | thanks ! | 23:10 |
| Davedan2 | when building a software from source using ./configure, make, make install do I need to be root and use sudo ? | 23:47 |
| cemc | Davedan2: I think you only need to be root when doing 'make install', and only if you're installing somewhere a normal user does not have write access to | 23:48 |
| ScottK | Davedan2: It generally works out better if you learn enough to package stuff for yourself so you can use the packaging system even for self done stuff. | 23:49 |
| Davedan2 | cemc: is it better to create a package locally instead with sudo checkinstall -D make install | 23:49 |
| Davedan2 | sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb | 23:49 |
| Davedan2 | ScottK: how do you package a source? | 23:51 |
| ScottK | That's a whole discipline of it's own. | 23:51 |
| ScottK | !packagingguide | 23:51 |
| ubottu | The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 23:51 |
| ScottK | Has information on it. | 23:51 |
| Davedan2 | thanks | 23:52 |
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