[02:14] <CompuHacker> Ladies and gentlemen.
[02:14] <Aquina> ?
[02:15] <CompuHacker> Well usually I say "Gentlemen" when I join a channel. Sometimes they kick me :/
[02:35] <Aquina> *lol*
[02:35] <forces> xDD
[02:41] <Aquina> Someone knows where bott msgs are generated?
[02:41] <Aquina> boot
[02:41] <Aquina> can't find them in init.d scripts.
[02:43] <temperature> dmesg
[04:04] <jekkyz> Any one online?
[04:04] <jekkyz> Hello room
[04:05] <forces> ?
[04:09] <cody-somerville> Hello
[04:10] <jekkyz> hello
[04:11] <forces> hello
[04:12] <jekkyz> guys I can get my UMPC to work with ubuntu 8.10, and I was wondering if it would work with Xubuntu too?
[04:13] <forces> why not?
[04:14] <jekkyz> Is there any difference with installing drivers?
[04:22] <forces> is the same
[04:59] <bobJR> im having a problem ive got a 200gb usb external it was in ntfs and i tryed writing to it etc and couldnt i tryed everything everyone told me to do and it wouldnt work so i formatted it to ext3 and i cant right to it now im running xubuntu can anyone help me please
[05:00] <bobJR> its usually on /dev/sdf1
[05:01] <bobJR> and it mounts here /media/disk
[05:15] <zoredache> bobJR: you reformated it?
[05:15] <zoredache> so it was ext3?
[05:16] <bobJR> yes
[05:16] <bobJR> its ext3 now
[05:16] <bobJR> i cant write to it
[05:16] <bobJR> i used gparted to format it
[05:16] <zoredache> Have you created a folder on the drive and given yourself permisions there?
[05:16] <bobJR> nope let me do that now if it will let me
[05:16] <zoredache> do a sudo mkdir /media/disk/data
[05:17] <zoredache> then do a sudo chown 1000:1000 /media/disk/data
[05:17] <zoredache> you should then be able to write in the folder named data
[05:18] <bobJR> thanks lets see if it works
[05:19] <bobJR> works like a charm thank you very much
[07:53] <gaurav__> hello everybody
[07:53] <gaurav__> can anyone tell me how to open fstab file in write mode?
[08:06] <pingvinas> hello everyone
[08:06] <pingvinas> i got a problem with resolution in xubuntu. once my laptop goes on suspend, then after turning it on/bringing back, the resolution suddenly goes very very large. anyone knows what's the problem?
[08:17] <zoredache> gaurav__: open it with root privileges... this usually measn using sudo/gksu
[08:33] <Myrtti> gaurav__: gksu mousepad /etc/fstab
[08:33] <Myrtti> gaurav__: be CAREFUL though
[09:00] <pingvinas> i got a problem with resolution in xubuntu. once my laptop goes on suspend, then after turning it on/bringing back, the resolution suddenly goes very very large. anyone knows what's the problem?
[10:05] <PKodon> Anyone around?
[10:05] <knome> no, we're inside.
[10:06] <PKodon> Oh, okay.
[10:06] <PKodon> Umm, I have a question abount mountpoints and partitions.
[10:06] <knome> sure.
[10:06] <knome> !ask | PKodon
[10:07] <PKodon> Sorry, I'm used to lots of people talking and no one paying attention most of the time.
[10:07] <knome> np.
[10:08] <knome> that's the way it is sometimes :(
[10:09] <PKodon> Anyway. I partitioned the drive with an 8GB mounted as / , a 2GB swap, and the rest (about 29GB) as /home . Now that I've installed some things, I've run out of space on / , is there a way to move /usr (where most of the installed stuff goes) to the same partition as /home ?
[10:11] <PKodon> Don't all tallk at once :)
[10:11] <knome> PKodon, if you need to resize /, you'll have to boot with a live cd to be able to do that.
[10:11] <PKodon> I can't move /usr to the same partition as /home?
[10:11] <knome> i don't think that's possible.
[10:12] <knome> it might be. :)
[10:12] <PKodon> See, I was under the impression, at first, that most of the stuff you installed went in /home/.usr , but now that seems not to be the case.
[10:13] <knome> yeah.
[10:13] <PKodon> I'm still rather new to Linux, and as I hate the way Windows puts everything on C:, I was hoping it would be different in Linux (keep the root partition for stuff necessary for the O/S, not for apps.
[10:14] <PKodon> )
[10:14] <knome> well you could symlink /usr to /home/.usr but...
[10:15] <PKodon> But, there might be some conflicts, especially if some programs expect to have different copies of the same files in /usr and ~/home/.usr?
[10:16] <knome> yes, that's not a recommended solution at all.
[10:16] <knome> and that might lead to any unexpected results also
[10:17] <PKodon> Well, okay, my Linux HD is only 40GB. I also have an NTFS HD which is about 350GB, which I use for downloading and portable Windows programs I can run from Wine without installing.
[10:17] <knome> your best bet would be enlarging /...
[10:19] <PKodon> I'm wondering how best to divide up the 40GB so that stuff that gets installed in Linux has enough space, and stuff installed with Wine has enough space (I probably also have to configure things like Transmission to put their downloads on the NTFS drive.).
[10:19] <wormsxulla> hello. i'm having a problem with ntpdate. i have to do sudo ntpdate ntp.thing.stuff to update my computer time, but it doesn't get saved between boots
[10:21] <PKodon> wormsxulla: Hmm, does it save the time between boots if you enter it manually?
[10:22] <wormsxulla> PKodon: i haven't tried that (i don't even know the command). i thought the ntpdate command was good, as it was properly synchronizing time
[10:22] <PKodon> wormsxulla: I had to enter the time manually myself, I was using the configuration tool for time and date, and ntp didn't work.
[10:22] <wormsxulla> PKodon: oh
[10:22] <PKodon> Or at least it didn't seem to.
[10:22] <wormsxulla> PKodon: which version?
[10:22] <PKodon> It was rather strange.
[10:23] <PKodon> Which version of what?
[10:23] <wormsxulla> me, gutsy (7.10). of xubuntu?
[10:23] <knome> wormsxulla, you should have 'ntp' in your (system ->) services
[10:23] <knome> wormsxulla, enabling it would work, and you would not need ntpdate.
[10:24] <PKodon> Oh, well, I guess that would be Xubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron (though it's extended by the people at PC/OS to include multimedia stuff and other things that Xubuntu doesn't include).
[10:24] <wormsxulla> knome: i did try that before using ntpdate, "the synchronize now" button, but it did nothing
[10:26] <PKodon> Let me look in the settings and see what it was exactly that I tried.
[10:26] <wormsxulla> what is funny is that it's almost always exactly the same time difference (about 4 minutes)
[10:27] <PKodon> Okay, first off, I guess it was Time and Date in the System menu.
[10:29] <PKodon> Hmm, okay, this time it worked. I set it to keep synchronized with servers, and it seems to have worked.
[10:29] <wormsxulla> PKodon: that's what i used (time and date)
[10:29] <PKodon> Did you pick a server?
[10:30] <wormsxulla> errr... where can i do that?
[10:31] <wormsxulla> configuration in "time and date settings" is set to "manual"
[10:31] <PKodon> In Time and Date, the next "button" below where you pick Manual or Synchronize (unless they changed the interface).
[10:31] <wormsxulla> i don't have a "next" button in that dialog (on 7.10)
[10:32] <wormsxulla> give me back my Next button!
[10:32] <PKodon> The button doesn't say "next".
[10:32] <wormsxulla> :)
[10:32] <PKodon> It was a blank button in mine.
[10:32] <wormsxulla> no button at all here after configuration
[10:33] <wormsxulla> Time: blah blah blah, then Date
[10:33] <PKodon> Okay, I have Time Zone, Configuration, and Time Servers.
[10:34] <PKodon> And across the bottom are Help, Unlock, and Close.
[10:34] <wormsxulla> the Time Servers one is missing here
[10:34] <wormsxulla> yes, for the bottom one
[10:34] <wormsxulla> Help, Synchronize now, Close, here
[10:35] <PKodon> Hmm, then yours must have some kind of list of servers it is supposed to check.
[10:35] <wormsxulla> i'll look for it
[10:35] <PKodon> Anyway, the other possibility is that your CMOS battery is getting weak.
[10:36] <knome> wormsxulla, And for ntpd edit /etc/ntp.conf  to include additional server lines:
[10:36] <knome> server ntp.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <knome> server pool.ntp.org
[10:36] <knome> wormsxulla, this is from https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html
[10:37] <PKodon> Okay, there you go. Once you've checked that, if it still doesn't keep the time after reboot, I'd check the battery for the CMOS.
[10:37] <wormsxulla> knome: my /etc/ntp.conf is empty
[10:38] <knome> wormsxulla, maybe that's why ntp doesn't check for time? :P
[10:38] <wormsxulla> ok, i'll include the two servers :)
[10:38] <wormsxulla> how can it be empty?
[10:39] <knome> i don't know.
[10:39] <knome> the page suggests you need to install package ntp.simple
[10:39] <knome> *ntp-simple
[10:39] <wormsxulla> ah, let me see
[10:40] <wormsxulla> :) by the way, thanks both for the help
[10:41] <PKodon> Good question. I installed the newest version (now 2 days old) of PC/OS  and tried to install Kopete. It didn't check to see if all the KDE support Kopete needed was installed, and I had to figgure out what to install to get the list of services to be something other than blank.
[10:41] <PKodon> And, you're welcome.
[10:41] <PKodon> So much for "dependency checking".
[10:42] <wormsxulla> :)
[10:42]  * wormsxulla recognizes the windows user comment
[10:43] <PKodon> Which windows user comment was that?
[10:44] <wormsxulla> the quotes around "dependency checking" (but i was just kidding)
[10:44] <knome> wormsxulla, and i see the little meeple inside you which wanted to agree with that comment ;)
[10:45] <PKodon> Well, using .deb files and either Synaptic or Adept is supposed to check for dependencies and mark the extra stuff you need for something to work.
[10:45] <wormsxulla> ah, so ntp-simple is not listed in synaptic ô_ö
[10:45] <wormsxulla> knome: i'm pwned ;)
[10:46] <wormsxulla> sudo apt-get it is then!
[10:46] <PKodon> wormsxulla: I keep seeing that, what does "pwned" mean?
[10:47] <knome> PKodon, s/p/o
[10:47] <wormsxulla> PKodon: it's a geeky transformation of "owned"
[10:47] <PKodon> Oh. Okay, one of those LAMER SPEAK things, eh?
[10:47] <knome> heh ;)
[10:47] <wormsxulla> PKodon: check on bash.org, you'll find funny quotes with "pwned", and an explanation of the origin in wikipedia, i think
[10:48]  * knome goes.
[10:48] <wormsxulla> pwned is to owned what knome is to gnome :p
[10:48] <knome> see you later guys
[10:48] <knome> wormsxulla, lol ;)
[10:48] <PKodon> Bye knome
[10:48] <knome> ->
[10:48] <wormsxulla> bye, s/g/knome!
[10:48] <knome> wormsxulla, that would be knome -> g !
[10:48] <knome> ->
[10:49]  * wormsxulla is not a g33k!
[10:49] <PKodon> Okay, I got that one.
[10:49] <wormsxulla> :)
[10:49] <PKodon> Well, I've seen that one b4.
[10:50] <PKodon> Still, I'd rather speak proper English, as long as I can.
[10:50] <degrit> 'allo
[10:50] <PKodon> degrit: Hi.
[10:50] <wormsxulla> PKodon: me too. err... so do i
[10:51] <degrit> I finally installed xubuntu on an old laptop, 1.3ghz w/256Mb ram, and it completely hangs every few seconds to a few minutes. any idea where to look to try figure out what the problem is ?
[10:51] <TheSheep> dmesg
[10:51] <PKodon> wormsxulla: Anyway, I didn't have to go through all that to install Kopete in the first release of PC/OS, so I'm thinking they broke something in the process of making the new distribution release, so I suppose I'm going to send in a report of some kind.
[10:51] <degrit> I am this far from cracking it over my knee and throw it in the yard
[10:52] <TheSheep> degrit: check dmesg | tail in terminal
[10:52] <degrit> what am I looking for, TheSheep  ?
[10:52] <PKodon> degrit: I'd guess it's doing a lot of swapping.
[10:52] <TheSheep> degrit: possibly some pci trouble, adding boot parametersto the kernel might work
[10:52] <TheSheep> PKodon: it usually doesn't hang when swapping
[10:53] <TheSheep> degrit: also check the command 'free'
[10:53] <degrit> with hanging I mean of course I have to turn it off and on again
[10:53] <PKodon> TheSheep: Oh. I guess that's Windows that does that.
[10:53] <TheSheep> degrit: ah, then check the old dmesgs in /var/log
[10:53] <degrit> I had managed to run damn small linux on it, but even that got stuck now and then
[10:53] <TheSheep> degrit: ones witn .1, .2, etc.
[10:54] <TheSheep> degrit: possibly some memory, disk or other hardware problem
[10:54] <degrit> while I must admit the xp installation that came with it was slow as hell but didn't crash
[10:54] <PKodon> degrit: I'm just thinking 256M is not enough RAM.
[10:54] <PKodon> But TheSheep is right, there may be something else wrong.
[10:55] <degrit> I am tempted to give up and accept some laptops just might not like linux, what do you think ?
[10:55] <degrit> this one has always been clunky and slow anyway
[10:55] <PKodon> degrit: You might try OpenGEU, not sure, but I think that needs less RAM.
[10:56] <degrit> what kind of desktop does it use ? I was putting xubuntu/ubuntu on it because the wife is used to it
[10:56] <PKodon> It's a combination of stuff from Gnome and Enlightenment.
[10:56] <PKodon> On an Xubuntu base.
[10:57] <degrit> right, Gnome-Enlightenment-Ubuntu
[10:58] <PKodon> degrit: BTW, how did you partition the drive?
[10:59] <PKodon> That is, what partitions did you give it?
[11:03] <PKodon> Hmm, just looked in my Ubuntu 8.04 magazine and it said I only neede 512M to 1G of swap partition, and here I gave it 2G.
[11:04] <PKodon> And according to the little monitor program running in the panel, I've barely ever used the swap since I put it on this machine.
[11:06] <PKodon> 512M of RAM doesn't seem like a whole lot more than 380M (what the other computer I had PC/OS, and before that, Kubuntu, on), but I hardly ever see the processor maxed out doing memory swapping.
[11:07] <PKodon> Hmm, well, I think I'd better wrap this up, now that I have Kopete working, and get some sleep.
[11:20] <magic_ninja> any overclockers in here
[11:40] <degrit> sorry for disappearing guys I have a baby emergency going on ;P be there asap
[11:41] <magic_ninja>  CPU  AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ (3216 MHz	
[11:42] <magic_ninja>  Client  X-Chat 2.8.7c
[11:42] <magic_ninja>  OS  Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
[11:42] <magic_ninja>  Uptime  0 days 04:39:15
[11:42] <magic_ninja>  CPU  AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ (3214 MHz)
[11:42] <magic_ninja>  NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT   1440x900, 32Bit 59Hz (Plug and Play Monitor)
[11:42] <magic_ninja>  Physical Memory  Size: 2.00 gb | Used: 0.00 b (0%) | Free: 2.00 gb ||||||||||
[11:42] <magic_ninja>  Page File  Size: 4.00 gb | Used: 0.00 b (0%) | Free: 4.00 gb ||||||||||
[11:42] <magic_ninja>  Virtual Memory  Size: 2.00 gb | Used: 2.00 gb (100%) | Free: 1.97 gb ||||||||||
[11:42] <magic_ninja>  c:\  (NTFS) | Size: 74.50 gb | Used: 22.51 gb (30%) | Free: 51.99 gb ||||||||||
[11:43] <magic_ninja>  f:\  (Ext2) | Size: 391.55 gb | Used: 109.63 gb (27%) | Free: 281.91 gb ||||||||||
[11:43] <magic_ninja>  failed [6]  (Ext2) | Size: 0.00 b | Used: 0.00 b (27%) | Free: 0.00 b ||||||||||
[11:43] <magic_ninja>  Complete  Size: 466.05 gb | Used: 132.14 gb (28%) | Free: 333.91 gb ||||||||||
[11:43] <magic_ninja> wow sorry lol
[12:59] <TaTo> hi all
[13:14] <R2D21> HP computer will not run with xubuntu. No network, sound and usb support :-(
[14:06] <arfab> Hi, I was just wondering if xfce 4.6 is available in the ubuntu repositories?
[14:07] <BrunoXLambert> not in intrepid
[14:07] <arfab> ok
[14:07] <BrunoXLambert> arfab, try http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and search for xfce
[14:07] <BrunoXLambert> or any other package
[14:07] <arfab> I'll probably just get a tarball then...
[14:07] <arfab> oh
[14:07] <arfab> ok
[14:07] <BrunoXLambert> or wait for jaunty
[14:08] <BrunoXLambert> the work is on the way for jaunty
[14:09] <arfab> yeah fair enough. I just wanted to have a play
[14:09] <arfab> :)
[14:09] <BrunoXLambert> yeah
[14:09] <BrunoXLambert> I can understand that :)
[14:53] <degrit> 'allo
[15:04] <enoztlane> i have a problem with changing language
[15:04] <enoztlane> can anyone help me?
[15:04] <degrit> try asking
[15:04] <degrit> it's easier
[15:06] <enoztlane> i want to change language with keyboard and not with mousepad.how can i do that?
[15:13] <degrit> I got an old laptop that hangs completely as soon as I log on, any advice to figure out what's wrong ? I seem to be able to run a terminal session
[15:13] <degrit> also funnily enough for some reason it won't boot any other cds than linux cds now P:
[15:14] <degrit> I tried the laptop's restore cds and a xp cd I am sure was bootable
[15:44] <inntegra> good morning 2 u all guys i like to get some help pls, i am so new on this system GNU/LINUX, just install it this morning and i at my office i got this multifunctional CANON imageCLASS D340 and connetec and this system download some drivers from another "recomended model!" but of course it didnt work and i cant find anything about this multifunctional, can somebody help me pls??
[15:46] <inntegra> i dont know what happen with the first part but good morning 2 u all guys i did just install xubuntu intrepid on my office laptop
[15:46] <inntegra> and ... well i need to use the multifunctional i got at the office, imageCLASS D340
[15:46] <inntegra> pls help
[15:47] <cody-somerville> inntegra, hi
[15:47] <inntegra> hi cody
[15:48] <inntegra> is it possible to install this multifunctional?? cause i cant find any g‎ui about it
[15:50]  * cody-somerville is looking.
[15:50] <inntegra> ok txs
[15:51] <cody-somerville> inntegra, I don't see any support for that printer.
[15:51] <inntegra> mm so this means  i wont be able to use it right?
[15:51] <cody-somerville> inntegra, My recommendation would be to try using the ppd file pulled from Win2k driver
[15:51] <inntegra> sad then i cant use this os
[15:52] <inntegra> nice lenguage sad to say i didnt understood anything pls explain would you??
[15:53] <cody-somerville> inntegra, You need to download the Windows 2000 driver for this printer, extract it, and take the file from it ending with ppd.
[15:53] <inntegra> lok
[15:53] <inntegra> ok
[15:53] <cody-somerville> inntegra, Then when you go to setup the printer, select the file you extracted as the driver.
[15:53] <inntegra> ok let me do it and let u know how is it going is that ok with u cody?
[15:54] <cody-somerville> inntegra, Sure. If I don't respond, it means I've gone to eat breakfast and will be back later.
[15:55] <inntegra> ok
[15:58] <inntegra> but theres no option to extract i did download it and is like a blue diamond
[15:58] <drguildo> are there any xfce 4.6 packages available for intrepid?
[15:59] <inntegra> it says on it PrtDriver_V300wIN2k_Vista_EN.exe
[15:59] <inntegra> and i assure i downloaded the one for win 2k
[16:00] <durt> drguildo: no, not sure if 4.6 is available for jaunty yet.
[16:01] <drguildo> durt: ok, thanks.
[16:03] <inntegra> ok i did open that diamond win driver but none of the folders has a ppd file
[16:44] <ajrion> hello i have just istalled xubuntu 8.04.1 and let it update its critical security updates and now when i restart it justs stays on the "GRUB loading please wait" and only after 2 minutes there is the boot menu, and when i select something it starts booting reeeealy slow. please help me :)
[16:45] <charlie-tca> ajrion: how much ram do you have?
[16:46] <ajrion> 1.5 GB
[16:46] <ajrion> xubuntu and xp both loaded just fine and the GRUB worked fine when i just installed it
[16:46] <ajrion> then i isntaled the drivers for the nvidia
[16:47] <ajrion> restarted - ok
[16:47] <ajrion> then updated the security updates and then the problem
[16:47] <ajrion> i have a 2GB swap partition ...
[16:47] <charlie-tca> run the updates again; tehn you may have to reinstall nvidia
[16:47] <ajrion> it worked fine when installed nvidia
[16:48] <ajrion> but the problem now is that i am not shure if it will boot to xubuntu at all ... it just takes so long to get to the GRUB screen
[16:48] <ajrion> charlie-tca why do you suspect the graphics drivers? could it be connected with booting ?
[16:49] <charlie-tca> I suspect the updates, maybe they did not complete. But they also can be incompatible with the nvidia driver
[16:50] <charlie-tca> and it won't show up until you restart
[16:50] <ajrion> hmmmm
[16:50] <ajrion> i think they completed fine, it said that it was ok and i should now restart the computer, so i did
[16:51] <charlie-tca> You could try removing splash and quiet at the grub menu, and it will show you what it is doing from there.
[16:51] <ajrion> so i should let xubuntu tru to boot even it it takes such a long time?
[16:51] <ajrion> well the prolems begin even before GRUB menu.. it takes as much as a couple of minutes just to show GRUB
[17:06] <ajrion> hello! I have just installed xubuntu and it was fine, then i updated my nvidia drivers, rebooted and everything was fine (so was the dual boot to xp) and then i updated the ubuntu critical security updates, and it said it was fine and to reboot the computer, so i did, but after that when i get "GRUB loading please wait" it stands there for 2 minutes! and when i finaly choose to boot...
[17:07] <ajrion> ...something it takes a long while to start booting.. please help!
[17:07] <ajrion> ubuntu 8.04.1 is the case
[17:07] <ajrion> hello anyone?
[17:24] <inntegra> how can i install a CANON imageCLASS D340 on a laptop????
[17:27] <nikolam> inntegra, http://www.sane-project.org/
[17:27] <spasticteapot> Do I have any player options beyond Amarok, Listen, Rhythmbox, and Exaile!
[17:28] <inntegra> thxs so much nkolam ill check that out, thank u very much for answering harxd to find someone to help i really appreciate ur help
[17:29] <nikolam> spasticteapot, audacious?
[17:29] <nikolam> spasticteapot, banshee?
[17:30] <spasticteapot> I need more features. :(
[17:30] <spasticteapot> I kinda miss iTunes in that respect.
[17:30] <nikolam> spasticteapot, what you need?
[17:31] <TheSheep> quod libet :0
[17:31] <spasticteapot> The ability to sort by genre, date, and other things not included in Rhythmbox.
[17:32] <nikolam> spasticteapot, try those other progs. exile,
[17:32] <inntegra> ok thxs NIKOLAM just check that out and is not supported
[17:33] <inntegra> that means i wont be able to use it right?
[17:34] <nikolam> inntegra, why you think you can`t use it? what program you are reffering to?
[17:34] <nikolam> Amarok is kind of.. ok, bansheee also
[17:36] <inntegra> i have a multifunctional CANON imageCLASS D340 and i cant install it on xubuntu so far, couldnt find any gui about drivers installation for it
[17:36] <spasticteapot> nikolam: Exaile runs on slow machines better (or at least it used to), and aside from that is a headache.
[17:37] <inntegra> i also try wine but it wont work
[17:37] <inntegra> so i think theres must be a way but i cant find to
[17:37] <TheSheep> inntegra: settings->printing
[17:38] <inntegra> yes i did that and it does detect the printer but when to drivers comes is not working
[17:39] <inntegra> it has a list of manufacturers and canon of course is in there but not the model i need not even the imageCLASS series
[17:40] <inntegra> the wierd think is that it does detect it as an imageCLASS D300 but thats it
[17:40] <inntegra> there not even does drivers available at the list of options and try with other models but it doesnt work
[17:42] <inntegra> oops soemthings wrong with power i
[17:59] <evilbuntu> so how do i get flash working
[17:59] <evilbuntu> tried deb pack for ubuntu
[17:59] <evilbuntu> tried tar.gz installer
[17:59] <knome> evilbuntu, you should find flash in the repositories
[17:59] <evilbuntu> tried copiing it to various 7usr/lib places
[18:00] <evilbuntu> tried the repo flash too
[18:00] <evilbuntu> maybe i used the wrong one
[18:00] <knome> !flash
[18:01] <knome> !restricted
[18:01] <evilbuntu> btw inst the a better cmd to searhing apt than apt-cache search
[18:01] <knome> evilbuntu, if you don't mind a gui, use synaptic
[18:02] <evilbuntu> i preferr cmd lines
[18:02] <evilbuntu> except apt still sucks
[18:02] <knome> then i suppose there is not.
[18:02] <evilbuntu> :(
[18:02] <evilbuntu> hmmmf
[18:02] <evilbuntu> seems like i have the correct package
[18:02] <evilbuntu> adobe-flashplugin <- in the newest version
[18:02] <knome> ah, oh, you're running intrepid?
[18:03] <evilbuntu> yea i guess
[18:03] <evilbuntu> 8.10
[18:03] <knome> i think somebody reported that the package is broken
[18:03] <evilbuntu> xubuntu 8.10
[18:03] <evilbuntu> aghhhh dammit
[18:03] <knome> Myrtti, ?
[18:03] <Myrtti> adobe have in their great wisdom decided to pull the flashplugin v. 9 off
[18:03] <evilbuntu> breaking flash is like breaking half of the interweb
[18:04] <Myrtti> which makes the package uninstallable.
[18:04] <evilbuntu> hmmm
[18:04] <evilbuntu> and the 10 thingie
[18:04] <Myrtti> you can, however, install the flashplugin from Adobes site.
[18:04] <evilbuntu> usually it works when you trow it all over the filesystem
[18:04] <evilbuntu> nope i cant
[18:04] <evilbuntu> tried that
[18:04] <evilbuntu> tried both the .deb (which does nothing in xubuntu)
[18:05] <evilbuntu> and the tar.gz installer (which adobe made even worse)
[18:08] <evilbuntu> god dammit
[18:11] <evilbuntu> hmmm so it isnt firefox thats broken ?
[18:14] <evilbuntu> so noone here uses 8.10 and flash ?
[18:14] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: well, i use 8.04.2 and Flash
[18:14]  * TheSheep does, but I installed flash long time ago
[18:14] <forces> os[Linux 2.6.24-23-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 67.7% free] disk[Total: 228.8GB, 61.0% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[18:15] <evilbuntu> this is rather annoying
[18:15] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: please purge *all* instances of the flashplugin-nonfree and adobe-flashplugin packages
[18:15] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: also, remove ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[18:16] <evilbuntu> and the modules i left in usr/lib ?
[18:17] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: if they're Flash-related, yes
[18:18] <evilbuntu> oki all gone
[18:20] <nikolam> Hm, Is it normal that USB does not recognize USB disk more then once, if it is pulled out before umount/safe device removal ?
[18:20] <dtchen_> nikolam: that would be reasonable, yes
[18:21] <evilbuntu> dtchen_: so .., whats the magic trick
[18:21] <dtchen_> nikolam: you probably need to fsck the *unmounted* partition(s) on the usb disk
[18:21] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: now, which version of Flash do you want to install?
[18:22] <evilbuntu> the newest and best i guess
[18:22] <evilbuntu> v10
[18:24] <dtchen_> on intrepid? ok.
[18:24] <dtchen_> which $arch?
[18:24] <evilbuntu> on xubuntu 8.10 x86
[18:25] <evilbuntu> dunno why ubuntu is 386 and not 686 today
[18:25] <dtchen_> well, what does `dpkg --print-architecture` return?
[18:26] <evilbuntu> i386
[18:26] <evilbuntu> as expected
[18:27] <dtchen_> sec, let me extract the deb to verify something.
[18:27] <evilbuntu> ok
[18:28] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: did you use http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.deb ?
[18:28] <evilbuntu> uhmm well yea with dpkg -i as i recall
[18:29] <evilbuntu> tried the tar.gz bin installer afterwards
[18:29] <dtchen_> ok, and did you receive any errors while running dpkg -i ?
[18:29] <evilbuntu> well libcurl3 was complaining
[18:29] <evilbuntu> i forced it through
[18:30] <evilbuntu> did the same on debian 5.0 2 days ago with success
[18:30] <dtchen_> uh oh
[18:30] <evilbuntu> what did i do hehe
[18:31] <dtchen_> ok, please reinstall that deb
[18:31] <dtchen_> you don't need to use the tar.gz installer afterward
[18:31] <evilbuntu> the falsh one ?
[18:31] <evilbuntu> flash
[18:31] <evilbuntu> ok
[18:31] <dtchen_> yes, http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[18:32] <dtchen_> we need to check `ldd /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so`
[18:32] <evilbuntu> where should that link end ?
[18:32] <evilbuntu> apparently its set up now
[18:32] <dtchen_> ...except it's not linked the way it needs to.
[18:33] <evilbuntu> prolly why nss3 complains a lot
[18:33] <evilbuntu> nss3.so
[18:33] <dtchen_> ok, if you restart Firefox, what does about:plugins show?
[18:34] <evilbuntu> got java , demo print and thats it
[18:35] <dtchen_> ok, i presume you're 100% current with intrepid-security and intrepid-updates?
[18:36] <evilbuntu> dtchen_: pretty much
[18:36] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: ok, let's at least try the partner repo
[18:36] <dtchen_> please dpkg -P adobe-flashplugin
[18:37] <evilbuntu> okey i wasnt exactly up to date
[18:38] <evilbuntu> ok purged
[18:38] <evilbuntu> partner repo ?
[18:39] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: right, that would be in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:39] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: look for the 'partner' repository, and uncomment it: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner
[18:40] <evilbuntu> hmmmmm
[18:40] <evilbuntu> oki maybe i screwed up here
[18:40] <evilbuntu> maybe i run a hardy
[18:40] <evilbuntu> all my mirrors a hardy heron
[18:40] <dtchen_> err!
[18:40] <dtchen_> you told me intrepid...
[18:41] <dtchen_> ok, what does `lsb_release -r` return?
[18:41] <evilbuntu> sorry , i recall downloading a interprid
[18:41] <evilbuntu> dammit,
[18:41] <evilbuntu> 8.04
[18:42] <dtchen_> yeah, that's hardy :)
[18:42] <evilbuntu> i know :(
[18:42] <dtchen_> you need to uncomment deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner
[18:42] <dtchen_> good thing i'm sitting in front of a hardy machine
[18:44] <evilbuntu> got partner and updated
[18:45] <evilbuntu> package is called what ?
[18:45] <dtchen_> adobe-flashplugin
[18:45] <evilbuntu> how do i know which repo it takes it from
[18:46] <dtchen_> check the output from `apt-cache policy adobe-flashplugin`
[18:46] <evilbuntu> 500 http://archive.canonical.com hardy/partner Packages
[18:46] <dtchen_> the Candidate line reflects the version, at least
[18:46] <evilbuntu> lokk oki , im installing
[18:47] <evilbuntu> ok ,, lets try firefox
[18:48] <evilbuntu> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so [libnss3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[18:48] <evilbuntu> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so [libnss3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[18:48] <dtchen_> hmm
[18:49] <evilbuntu> slighty less noisy than last time
[18:49] <dtchen_> ok, sanity check: sha256sum /usr/lib/libnss3.so
[18:49] <evilbuntu> this time the dir doesnt exist
[18:50] <evilbuntu> and /usr/lib/libnss3.so doesnt exist either
[18:50] <dtchen_> !
[18:50] <dtchen_> well, that's the source of your trouble
[18:50] <evilbuntu> i got /usr/lib/libnss3.so.ld
[18:50] <dtchen_> yes, that should exist
[18:51] <evilbuntu> would seem so
[18:51] <evilbuntu> what package is libnss3 part of
[18:51] <evilbuntu> mozilla-plugins or something ?
[18:51] <dtchen_> however, libnss3-1d still ships /usr/lib/libnss3.so, which is a symlink to libnss3.so.1d
[18:51] <dtchen_> libnss3-1d is the name of the package that ships both /usr/lib/libnss3.so and /usr/lib/libnss3.so.1d
[18:52] <evilbuntu> so i could make the symlink myself ?
[18:52] <dtchen_> i would try sudo apt-get --reinstall install libnss3-1d
[18:52] <evilbuntu> im on it
[18:52] <dtchen_> (but yes, you could also create the symlink, and then ldconfig)
[18:53] <evilbuntu> ok now its there libnss3.so
[18:53] <dtchen_> good
[18:53] <dtchen_> restarting Firefox should get things running
[18:53] <evilbuntu> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so [libplds4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory]
[18:53] <evilbuntu> hahaha
[18:53] <evilbuntu> not my day
[18:54] <dtchen_> apt-get --reinstall install libnspr4-0d
[18:54] <dtchen_> same symlink issue, probably
[18:54] <evilbuntu> mnnn
[18:55] <evilbuntu> woohooo
[18:55] <evilbuntu> dtchen_: hugs
[18:56] <evilbuntu> it works like a charm now
[18:56] <evilbuntu> dunno why i got the symlink issues, its a brand new install
[18:56] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: note that you can purge the adobe-flashplugin-nonfree from the partner repository and install the deb from Adobe's web site for Flash 10
[18:56] <dtchen_> err, adobe-flashplugin*
[18:57] <evilbuntu> but the partner repo had the newest i think
[18:57] <evilbuntu> 10.x.x.x something
[18:57] <dtchen_> oh, right, x86
[18:57] <dtchen_> sorry, on amd64, so it can't be distributed in partner
[18:57] <dtchen_> anyhoo, you should be good to go
[18:58] <evilbuntu> well as soon as gnash does youtube perfectly im changing
[18:58] <dtchen_> Gnash handles Youtube quite well in Jaunty, at least
[18:58] <gaurav__> hey every one
[18:58] <evilbuntu> i fucking tired of screwing around with such a simple thing
[18:58] <dtchen_> err!
[18:58] <dtchen_> s/Gnash/Swfdec
[18:58] <dtchen_> /
[18:59] <evilbuntu> ??
[18:59] <dtchen_> having trouble getting the correct characters from the keyboard today
[18:59] <evilbuntu> when gnash is good enough they should bundle it with firefox
[18:59] <dtchen_> Swfdec tends to perform better than Gnash for Youtube IME
[18:59] <evilbuntu> never heard of swfdec
[19:00] <gaurav__> hey can any1 tell me how to go for voice and video chat in Xubutnu linux
[19:00] <gaurav__> please
[19:01] <evilbuntu> dtchen_: we need something that performs better than abobes flash also
[19:02] <evilbuntu> my 1600 mhz pentium can barely play a fullscreen normal def movie in flash
[19:05] <dtchen_> evilbuntu: well, could be your graphics driver, too
[19:05] <dtchen_> newer versions of the graphics driver that I use hog the CPU much less
[19:08] <evilbuntu> ahh yea
[19:08] <evilbuntu> i should prolly just have used ubuntu and not xubuntu
[19:08] <dtchen_> well, the problem you ran into affects Ubuntu and Xubuntu equally
[19:08] <evilbuntu> i need the opensource radeon driver for my r250
[19:09] <dtchen_> i reinstalled from 8.04.1 alternate, so i didn't experience that issue
[19:09] <evilbuntu> hmm
[19:09] <evilbuntu> i used alternate too
[19:09] <dtchen_> 8.04, 8.04.1, or 8.04.2?
[19:09] <evilbuntu> meh dunno
[19:10] <evilbuntu> downloaded it some days ago
[19:14] <evilbuntu> dtchen_: is there a cute lille gui gizmo to choose gfx driver on xubuntu ?
[19:15] <TheSheep> evilbuntu: system->drivers
[19:16] <evilbuntu> thats just the propritory drivers thingie
[19:17] <evilbuntu> a cmd line utilty would also be fine
[19:17] <evilbuntu> i just dont want to fumble with xorg.conf myself
[19:28] <TheSheep> evilbuntu: it's empty anyways in recent versions
[20:43] <Zeeron> Anyone have a recommendation for mounting a CD image?  Since it appears to be a CloneCD image (.cue/.img) I don't know how to mount it.
[20:52] <TheSheep> !iso
[20:52] <TheSheep> Zeeron: just mount the img
[20:52] <rocko> why is it that you need a special distro to install on an xbox?
[20:52] <TheSheep> rocko: different cpu architecture
[20:53] <rocko> I thought it is a x86 processor
[20:53] <rocko> not the xbox 360
[20:53] <Zeeron> It's not an iso, so trying to "mount -t iso9660 -o loop foo.img /home/bar/destination doesn't work.
[20:53] <rocko> the older one
[20:53] <rocko> xbox 360 is powerpc I know
[20:55] <Zeeron> Yeah, it says "Unable to identify CD-ROM format."
[20:57] <Zeeron> And I've tried using ccd2iso, but I get error: "Unrecognized sector mode (6e) at sector 57945!"
[20:58] <Zeeron> Thus it dies less than half-way through conversion.
[20:59] <mnemonic76> Can anyone help me set up wireless under xubuntu
[21:00] <mnemonic76> I have an old dell inspiron 2500 and a Netgear WG511v1. I have installed ndiswrapper, and the Netgear driver, and the card seems to be recognised.
[21:01] <mnemonic76> Cant seem to figure out how to connect to my network thoughj
[21:02] <rocko> I am talking about this xbox TheSheep
[21:02] <rocko> http://www.xbreporter.com/xbox_system_specifications.php
[21:02] <rocko> that uses an x86 processor
[21:02] <rocko> it shouldn't need a special linux distro to install it on the xbox
[22:55] <qwerkus> Hi: I'm here again looking for some software advice
[22:55] <qwerkus> This time I need an application able to render part of a general picture out of small batches of tiles on request, just like google maps does
[22:55] <qwerkus> any idea ?
[23:29] <vidd> can anyon recommend a decent WYSIWYG html editor for *buntu?
[23:49] <trece8> Is there somewhere the list of updates by day posted? (by the way, hi all)
[23:53] <kaleva> hi
[23:54] <kaleva> need some support
[23:54] <vidd> ask away
[23:55] <trece8> vidd... do you know if there is a list of package updates ordered by date of release?
[23:56] <kaleva> I want connect permanetly to FTP, I mean I want to copy and past the file of my ftp as it would be a folder of my pc
[23:57] <kaleva> i can do that in ubuntu, but i have some problems in xubuntu, I dunno exactly what i should look for
[23:57] <TheSheep> kaleva: it's not that easy on xubuntu
[23:58] <TheSheep> kaleva: you could probably use fuse to mount the ftp as a folder
[23:58] <TheSheep> !fuse
[23:58] <kaleva> thank thank thank, i gotta learn^^
[23:58] <trece8> how do you work around the issue that some package update (that you don't know which is) crashed something and you want to UN-update that?