[04:44] <nothingman> hi, all
[04:45] <nothingman> I installed the alternate disk as an ltsp server, but when I log in on the server (haven't installed the addon disc yet) I get a black screen with the arrow cursor
[12:44] <anom1> hi.
[12:45] <anom1> just wondering if I'm missing any Edubuntu downloads, because after installing the whole 8.10 Addon CDROM (I believe), I only see about 10+ new programs, mostly in the Education menu (gnome).
[12:47]  * anom1 dreams of seeing Mark Shuttleworth in person one day...
[14:02] <itstegg> will the edubuntu addon install over xubuntu ?
[16:09]  * anom1 wishes there are many apps for various subjects - Physics, Chemistry, Geography, History (general), Biology, etc...
[16:40] <Ahmuck-Jr> Nubae is there a place on the apps site where one can create a section called "wanted apps"
[16:40] <Ahmuck-Jr> something a person could describe the educational app they are looking for and describe how it should perform?
[16:48] <anom1> Ahmuck-Jr: Thank you. Will take a look.
[16:49] <Ahmuck-Jr> anom1: i don't think there is a place yet
[16:57] <anom1> but what do you guys think about edubuntu?  or are you guys in here just to chat or something?
[16:58]  * anom1 just wants to start a conversation and listen to people talk.
[17:05] <gfarbal2> Hi! Anybody can help me setting up local devices support in a LTSP server? I'm using 2.6.24-23 kernel, I've fuse module insmoded, my user is in fuse group, and my thin device recognizes my USB stick but... Gnome icon's... doesn't appear :-( Any idea? Thank you!
[19:22] <Ahmuck-Jr> LaserJock: could we get a place on the website for applications ideas?
[19:24] <ogra> Ahmuck-Jr, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-application-review feel free to implement the spec :)
[19:27] <LaserJock> actually, we have Brainstorm
[19:27] <LaserJock> I sent out an email about it
[19:27]  * LaserJock wonders if people ever read his emails sometimes :-)
[19:28] <ogra> well, brainstorm isnt really a replacement for an app overview DB
[19:28] <LaserJock> no
[19:28] <LaserJock> but I sent out an email saying we can use it as an interim solution
[19:28] <LaserJock> since I'm guessing the full app review DB is gonna take somet time to implement
[19:29] <Ahmuck-Jr> need to put it in the topic me thinks
[19:30] <Ahmuck-Jr> after the question came up here, i envisoined a place where someone could fill out the title, the app idea, and the details needed to make the app function
[19:30] <Ahmuck-Jr> then it would be a wait and see to find out if there was someone that would implement the app
[19:31] <LaserJock> yeah
[19:31] <LaserJock> the spec that ogra linked to has a lot of great ideas
[19:31] <Ahmuck-Jr> is that brainstorm ?
[19:31] <LaserJock> not so much
[19:31] <ogra> no
[19:31] <Ahmuck-Jr> coders do well at coding, but not so well at what apps teachers need to teach
[19:31] <LaserJock> Brainstorm let's you create an idea and talk about it
[19:32] <ogra> its the spec we worked out at the seville UDS for presenting and voting for apps
[19:32] <Ahmuck-Jr> so let them specify what apps they are looking for and then if a dev want's to try it, let them try it
[19:32] <ogra> but nobody ever implemented it
[19:32] <Ahmuck-Jr> or someone wants to pay for a gpled development
[19:33] <LaserJock> I still say though that the problem is not primarily finding things to work on, but rather finding resources to do so
[19:33] <ogra> yeah
[19:33] <ogra> not enough devs in edubuntu land was always the prob
[19:33] <LaserJock> however, if we can be more efficient at doing that, then that's a good idea
[19:33] <Ahmuck-Jr> it doesn't need to be edubuntu devs
[19:34] <LaserJock> right
[19:34] <Ahmuck-Jr> but the seed could be planted at edubuntu
[19:34]  * ogra didnt say edubuntu devs 
[19:34] <ogra> i said in edubuntu land :)
[19:34] <Ahmuck-Jr> so if dev a is looking for something to polish thier resume, they could pick up an edu app at edubuntu
[19:34] <ogra> (which includes ubuntu devs or anyone else who is willing)
[19:35] <ogra> there are millions of demanding users and teachers but only a handfull of devs at all
[19:36] <ogra> in the three years i did edubuntu the best i could get were people willing to help but only with documentation
[19:36] <ogra> and i doubt that changed much
[19:37] <LaserJock> mostly the best is to get people who are alread devs interested in Education from what I've seen
[19:37] <ogra> yes
[19:37] <ogra> its the only way
[19:37] <LaserJock> that's how ogra and I got into it
[19:39] <Ahmuck-Jr> or pay for dev
[19:40] <ogra> that doesnt generate more devs magically
[19:43] <ogra> but feel free to try it and put up a bounty :)
[19:45] <alkisg> Lns: man sqlite => .sqliterc may be a way to automatically insert group "places" entries in firefox, I think you were looking for something like that...
[19:46] <Lns> alkisg: wow, thanks, i'll look into that!
[20:05] <Lns> alkisg: do you have any docs on .sqliterc syntax/usage?
[20:05] <alkisg> Lns, they're standard .commands
[20:05] <alkisg> E.g. put this in .sqliterc:
[20:06] <alkisg> .output /tmp/sqlite.out
[20:06] <alkisg> .databases
[20:06] <alkisg> .output stdout
[20:06] <alkisg> Then if you run sqlite and just .quit, you'll see a /tmp/sqlite.out file with your databases
[20:06] <Lns> hrm
[20:06] <alkisg> You may also include a file with sql statements (like, select * from moz_places)
[20:07]  * Lns isn't familiar with .commands - is that all standard sql syntax?
[20:07] <Lns> ah
[20:07] <alkisg> Lns, run sqlite and then type .help
[20:07] <Lns> wow this could provide some pretty useful functionality
[20:08] <alkisg> Lns, ah, sorry: .sqliterc isn't executed when firefox starts, I thought it would be... :(
[20:09] <Lns> :(
[20:09] <alkisg> So I guess triggers would be an alternative...
[20:09] <Lns> yea
[20:12] <highvoltage> hey Lns
[20:13] <Lns> hey highvoltage, what's the good word
[20:14] <highvoltage> sorry Lns I only know bad words :p
[20:15] <Lns> =p
[20:22]  * Lns is probably going to toss ArchLinux on his eeepc 701.. heard it can boot in 14sec.
[20:37] <Ahmuck-Jr> k, i'm back
[23:52] <Svenstaro> Does anybody here have experience with a network of about 50 thin clients and what kind of server to use in order to cope with the loadß
[23:52] <LaserJock> that seems like quite a lot on a single server
[23:52] <Svenstaro> That's why I'm asking :/
[23:53] <LaserJock> stgraber or Lns might have an idea though
[23:53] <Svenstaro> I'm considering fat clients at this point.
[23:54] <Svenstaro> I have 8 cores which I believe can handle at most 20 multimedia clients.
[23:55] <Svenstaro> Would you even use LTSP/Edubuntu when using fat clients? From my understanding for fat clients I simply have to serve a bootable kernel on a TFTPd.
[23:59] <LaserJock> yeah, you can do LTSP with fat clients