[04:44] hi, all [04:45] I installed the alternate disk as an ltsp server, but when I log in on the server (haven't installed the addon disc yet) I get a black screen with the arrow cursor === ogra_ is now known as ogra [12:44] hi. [12:45] just wondering if I'm missing any Edubuntu downloads, because after installing the whole 8.10 Addon CDROM (I believe), I only see about 10+ new programs, mostly in the Education menu (gnome). [12:47] * anom1 dreams of seeing Mark Shuttleworth in person one day... [14:02] will the edubuntu addon install over xubuntu ? [16:09] * anom1 wishes there are many apps for various subjects - Physics, Chemistry, Geography, History (general), Biology, etc... [16:40] Nubae is there a place on the apps site where one can create a section called "wanted apps" [16:40] something a person could describe the educational app they are looking for and describe how it should perform? [16:48] Ahmuck-Jr: Thank you. Will take a look. [16:49] anom1: i don't think there is a place yet [16:57] but what do you guys think about edubuntu? or are you guys in here just to chat or something? [16:58] * anom1 just wants to start a conversation and listen to people talk. [17:05] Hi! Anybody can help me setting up local devices support in a LTSP server? I'm using 2.6.24-23 kernel, I've fuse module insmoded, my user is in fuse group, and my thin device recognizes my USB stick but... Gnome icon's... doesn't appear :-( Any idea? Thank you! [19:22] LaserJock: could we get a place on the website for applications ideas? [19:24] Ahmuck-Jr, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-application-review feel free to implement the spec :) [19:27] actually, we have Brainstorm [19:27] I sent out an email about it [19:27] * LaserJock wonders if people ever read his emails sometimes :-) [19:28] well, brainstorm isnt really a replacement for an app overview DB [19:28] no [19:28] but I sent out an email saying we can use it as an interim solution [19:28] since I'm guessing the full app review DB is gonna take somet time to implement [19:29] need to put it in the topic me thinks [19:30] after the question came up here, i envisoined a place where someone could fill out the title, the app idea, and the details needed to make the app function [19:30] then it would be a wait and see to find out if there was someone that would implement the app [19:31] yeah [19:31] the spec that ogra linked to has a lot of great ideas [19:31] is that brainstorm ? [19:31] not so much [19:31] no [19:31] coders do well at coding, but not so well at what apps teachers need to teach [19:31] Brainstorm let's you create an idea and talk about it [19:32] its the spec we worked out at the seville UDS for presenting and voting for apps [19:32] so let them specify what apps they are looking for and then if a dev want's to try it, let them try it [19:32] but nobody ever implemented it [19:32] or someone wants to pay for a gpled development [19:33] I still say though that the problem is not primarily finding things to work on, but rather finding resources to do so [19:33] yeah [19:33] not enough devs in edubuntu land was always the prob [19:33] however, if we can be more efficient at doing that, then that's a good idea [19:33] it doesn't need to be edubuntu devs [19:34] right [19:34] but the seed could be planted at edubuntu [19:34] * ogra didnt say edubuntu devs [19:34] i said in edubuntu land :) [19:34] so if dev a is looking for something to polish thier resume, they could pick up an edu app at edubuntu [19:34] (which includes ubuntu devs or anyone else who is willing) [19:35] there are millions of demanding users and teachers but only a handfull of devs at all [19:36] in the three years i did edubuntu the best i could get were people willing to help but only with documentation [19:36] and i doubt that changed much [19:37] mostly the best is to get people who are alread devs interested in Education from what I've seen [19:37] yes [19:37] its the only way [19:37] that's how ogra and I got into it [19:39] or pay for dev [19:40] that doesnt generate more devs magically [19:43] but feel free to try it and put up a bounty :) [19:45] Lns: man sqlite => .sqliterc may be a way to automatically insert group "places" entries in firefox, I think you were looking for something like that... [19:46] alkisg: wow, thanks, i'll look into that! [20:05] alkisg: do you have any docs on .sqliterc syntax/usage? [20:05] Lns, they're standard .commands [20:05] E.g. put this in .sqliterc: [20:06] .output /tmp/sqlite.out [20:06] .databases [20:06] .output stdout [20:06] Then if you run sqlite and just .quit, you'll see a /tmp/sqlite.out file with your databases [20:06] hrm [20:06] You may also include a file with sql statements (like, select * from moz_places) [20:07] * Lns isn't familiar with .commands - is that all standard sql syntax? [20:07] ah [20:07] Lns, run sqlite and then type .help [20:07] wow this could provide some pretty useful functionality [20:08] Lns, ah, sorry: .sqliterc isn't executed when firefox starts, I thought it would be... :( [20:09] :( [20:09] So I guess triggers would be an alternative... [20:09] yea [20:12] hey Lns [20:13] hey highvoltage, what's the good word [20:14] sorry Lns I only know bad words :p [20:15] =p [20:22] * Lns is probably going to toss ArchLinux on his eeepc 701.. heard it can boot in 14sec. [20:37] k, i'm back === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 [23:52] Does anybody here have experience with a network of about 50 thin clients and what kind of server to use in order to cope with the loadß [23:52] that seems like quite a lot on a single server [23:52] That's why I'm asking :/ [23:53] stgraber or Lns might have an idea though [23:53] I'm considering fat clients at this point. [23:54] I have 8 cores which I believe can handle at most 20 multimedia clients. [23:55] Would you even use LTSP/Edubuntu when using fat clients? From my understanding for fat clients I simply have to serve a bootable kernel on a TFTPd. [23:59] yeah, you can do LTSP with fat clients