| BigAl50 | What would you do with this? Bug #336466 doesn't look like a bug to me | 00:15 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 336466 in lordsawar "[Jaunty FFe] lordsawar-0.1.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336466 | 00:15 |
| Ampelbein | BigAl50: I would guide the reporter to request a freeze exception (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess) | 00:18 |
| BigAl50 | Okay thanks | 00:19 |
| Ampelbein | BigAl50: And seeing the author already mentionen FFe in the description, i guess he knows about it. | 00:19 |
| Ampelbein | The report seems ok as a freeze exception to me, someone from the releaseteam will surely look over the report. | 00:20 |
| hggdh | yes, it's bddebian | 00:22 |
| bddebian | Was it not correct? | 00:23 |
| dtchen_ | yeah, i would thinks the debian devel knows what he's doing ;) | 00:23 |
| dtchen_ | (misspelling intentional!) | 00:23 |
| hggdh | it would help if one of the devs with bugcontrol accepted it | 00:25 |
| * hggdh thought to have written the nick in question mispelled, but dyslexia got through | 00:26 | |
| BigAl50 | Should I leave the status as new or should it be marked invalid or something else? | 00:27 |
| Ryan52 | bdmurray: did you get my message from like a week or two ago? | 00:27 |
| greg-g | BigAl50: don't do anything to it, please. It is a workflow bug. | 00:28 |
| bdmurray | Ryan52: I'm not seeing anything atm | 00:29 |
| BigAl50 | Okay, I'll leave as is, thanks for all the help this is all new to me | 00:29 |
| Ryan52 | bdmurray: oh, well I was asking if you could renew my bugcontrol thingy. | 00:29 |
| greg-g | BigAl50: you're welcome, thanks for helping | 00:30 |
| Ryan52 | s/thingy/membership/ (couldn't find the right word) | 00:30 |
| bdmurray | Ryan52: okay, you're all set now. Thanks for helping out! | 00:33 |
| Ryan52 | w00t! thanks! :) | 00:33 |
| BigAl50 | Been looking for dupes so the more experienced could do the triaging | 00:36 |
| bddebian | Nah, I don't know anything anymore :) | 00:39 |
| Ryan52 | bddebian: that was...random. | 00:41 |
| bddebian | Someone explain wtf is different about the FeatureFreeze that's on the wiki?? | 00:42 |
| bddebian | Are we not supposed to file a freeze exception bug before uploading or synching anymore??? | 00:52 |
| greg-g | bddebian: no, you are fine, there was no need for the comment on your FFe | 00:53 |
| hggdh | yes we are | 00:53 |
| hggdh | meaning, bddebian you are all set and correct | 00:53 |
| bddebian | Though I realize I didn't add the pbuilder log | 00:53 |
| greg-g | (erm, I guess my "no" was supposed to be "yes, you are supposed to") | 00:54 |
| hggdh | heh | 00:54 |
| bddebian | :) | 00:55 |
| BUGabundo | mooo | 00:56 |
| hggdh | this was a fun and confusing dialog ;-) | 01:00 |
| bddebian | OK, thanks folks | 01:04 |
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| CarlFK | is this a bug: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evtouch .... $ ev_calibrate; XLoadQueryFont: failed loading font '*freemono*' | 01:49 |
| CarlFK | needs ttf-freefont dep | 02:00 |
| YoBoY | hi | 06:36 |
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| Hew | what's involved with making a package work with python 2.6? Is it a fairly simple task, or does it involve some programmer effort? bug 335854 | 11:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 335854 in revelation "Broken package : revelation depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335854 | 11:13 |
| ziroday | Hew: I know there was another package that needed fixing as well | 11:16 |
| geser | Hew: depends on the packaging but it's rather easy (see the mail on ubuntu-devel-announce) | 11:19 |
| Hew | ziroday: There are lots of packages in this situation, but revelation in particular has a history of being ignored, which is why I want to get it triaged asap | 11:21 |
| ziroday | Hew: right :) | 11:22 |
| Hew | geser: I've re-read that u-d-a email a few times now and it doesn't seem to have any useful info, other than "stuff is going to break" | 11:22 |
| seb128 | Hew: ask to doko | 11:22 |
| geser | Hew: then the mail was on ubuntu-devel | 11:24 |
| geser | Hew: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027528.html | 11:24 |
| Hew | geser: Thanks, that one is helpful :D | 11:28 |
| BUGabundo | guud morning | 11:53 |
| thekorn | pedro_: hi, since you triaged bug 336067, is the issue described in bug 336039 the same one or related? | 12:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 336067 in python-httplib2 "python-httplib2 needs a patch for Python2.6 support" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336067 | 12:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 336039 in python-httplib2 "get_request_token throws a TypeError" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336039 | 12:00 |
| pedro_ | thekorn: hey, seems to be the same, i was having that traceback as well after patching my python-httplib2 with the upstream change so yeap | 12:02 |
| thekorn | ok, thanks, marking the TypeError one as duplicate now | 12:04 |
| pedro_ | thekorn: ok, thanks you | 12:04 |
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| sianis | bdmurray: ping | 14:55 |
| dan | asac, ayt? | 15:26 |
| asac | dan: yes | 15:48 |
| dan | asac, just wondering if you got my emails RE: v0.6 NM bug fix | 15:49 |
| mvo | bdmurray: hey, could you please make sianis member of ubuntu bug control? he is doing great work on triage of bugs in my package, notable gdebi (but others as well) | 16:40 |
| bdmurray | mvo: Is he familiar with the process for apport crashes? | 16:41 |
| mvo | bdmurray: I don't know, he is in the channel, so I hope he replies soon | 16:43 |
| sianis | bdmurray: I think I am | 16:43 |
| bdmurray | sianis: basically, don't make them public unless you are certain they contain no private data | 16:45 |
| sianis | bdmurray: yep, I know it and read on the wiki | 16:45 |
| bdmurray | sianis: is this your launchpad username? | 16:48 |
| sianis | bdmurray: yes it is | 16:48 |
| asac | dan: yes :) | 16:50 |
| bdmurray | sianis: you'll be all set in a moment, thanks for helping out! | 16:50 |
| IntuitiveNipple | bdmurray: Whilst you're at it, could you approve my renewal request that is in the queue from a couple weeks ago please? (previous membership expired a few months ago) ? | 16:51 |
| dan | asac, ok, what's the next step? Are you still mulling it over? | 16:51 |
| sianis | bdmurray: thank you! | 16:51 |
| greg-g | bdmurray: welcome to ubuntu-cyclists, btw :) | 16:59 |
| bdmurray | greg-g: I just saw that sianis was a member and thought I'd join! Thats some neat artwork | 16:59 |
| greg-g | yeah, I can't take credit for it, unfortunately | 17:00 |
| sianis | thx | 17:00 |
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| thomasdelbeke | Hi there, anyone there? | 18:00 |
| szczym | hi where is that totem / rythmbox event? | 18:01 |
| thomasdelbeke | I have a sick process, but cannot find pid (with pidof nor ps -A) | 18:02 |
| thomasdelbeke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/312364 | 18:02 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 312364 in update-manager "update-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in PyErr_SetFromErrnoWithFilenameObject()" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 18:02 |
| thomasdelbeke | hoe to backtrace | 18:02 |
| thomasdelbeke | ? | 18:02 |
| thomasdelbeke | how? | 18:02 |
| MrKanister | thomasdelbeke: Try using "ps -e" and then search through the list | 18:03 |
| mrooney | What is the correct way to triage a regression bug in Jaunty, other than tag it regression-potential? Should regression be put in the title? | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | if it is a true regression, you can put [regression] at the end of the title | 18:24 |
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| mnemo | I just ran into this really weird bug that locks up my whole machine (and it repros using the live CD as well)... can anyone confirm this bug? --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/336771 | 19:13 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 336771 in linux "system locks up when running "strace gdmsetup"" [Undecided,New] | 19:13 |
| mnemo | i would like someone to test those repro steps | 19:13 |
| mnemo | and confirm if they see the bug as well | 19:13 |
| vbgunz | failed to resume: error 262144 | 19:53 |
| vbgunz | am googling it | 19:53 |
| vbgunz | maybe a kernel parameter solves it? | 19:53 |
| IntuitiveNipple | vbgunz: Now you've managed to capture the activity log I've got something to investigate :0 | 19:53 |
| vbgunz | I need to find my bug to attach too on lp | 19:53 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: ok, I attached it | 19:56 |
| IntuitiveNipple | thank you. It looks like the disk on ata1 doesn't respond to the START command. | 19:56 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: everything starts up just fine. how can I go around that or force it to start. it obviously works just not from resume by default :( | 19:57 |
| vbgunz | I found a few google hits that say this -> need pci=nomsi or ahci fails to resume ... I am not using AHCI though (I think) just IDE. I can replace IDE with AHCI. I did but noticed no differences *except* the system would sometimes fail to start all together | 19:59 |
| IntuitiveNipple | AHCI is being used. | 20:02 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Can you add to the bug the result of: ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/* | 20:03 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: ok, attached | 20:05 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: if AHCI is being used, how then do I say to use ACPI? | 20:05 |
| IntuitiveNipple | notice these bits: | 20:06 |
| IntuitiveNipple | pci-0000:00:09.0-scsi-0:0:0:0 -> sda | 20:06 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: I am really glad this is going somewhere :) | 20:07 |
| amrlima | Just a question to clear a doubt: is having log files and core dumps, as it says in debugging procedures, enought to confirm a bug? | 20:07 |
| IntuitiveNipple | 00:09.0 IDE interface [0101]: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SATA Controller (non-AHCI mode) [10de:0ad0] (rev a2) | 20:07 |
| vbgunz | frigging awesome, what do I need to do, I will do it! | 20:07 |
| IntuitiveNipple | So, sda is on the controller at 09.0 (notice it says non-AHCI mode) | 20:07 |
| IntuitiveNipple | [ 1.356522] ahci 0000:00:09.0: version 3.0 | 20:08 |
| vbgunz | not sure IntuitiveNipple, I see that but have no idea how to fix it. I have acpi enabled in bios otherwise I cannot boot. I saw 2 options for AHCI in bios but they both instead say IDE. not sure how to tell Kubuntu to suspend using only acpi :/ am I way off here? | 20:09 |
| vbgunz | I never really changed anything in Kubuntu about suspend. the only thing I can think up is the /etc/defaults/acpi-support file *but* thats been default pretty much forever :( | 20:10 |
| vbgunz | oh, I once played with systemsettings > powerdemon is it? | 20:11 |
| IntuitiveNipple | You're getting way ahead, and confusing yourself with talk of ACPI at the same time | 20:11 |
| vbgunz | no, just power options, sorry | 20:11 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: holy cow. first time ever. suspend the first time to ram worked... I just added the pci=nomsi kernel parameter | 20:36 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: is this good or no? should I be aiming for the cause here? is there a better solution? | 20:37 |
| IntuitiveNipple | vbgunz: See my recent comment to the bug, and please report your finding that pci=nomsi works. I think we'll push the bug report upstream to the kernel bugzilla | 20:40 |
| IntuitiveNipple | vbgunz: See my recent comment to the bug, and please report your finding that pci=nomsi works. I think we'll push the bug report upstream to the kernel bugzilla | 20:41 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: ok. doing that now | 20:42 |
| IntuitiveNipple | vbgunz: There was talk about this issue on the linux-ide mailing list but at that time the person interested in it couldn't find a decent report about it. | 20:43 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I'll email them to look at your report | 20:43 |
| vbgunz | I would do anything I can to help. I just need someone smarter than me to walk me through what needs to be done | 20:43 |
| IntuitiveNipple | It looks like there may be a bug/quirk that the driver needs to address. | 20:46 |
| vbgunz | ok, will try suspend one more time... do you think this would actually work with suspend to disk? I always had problems there too | 20:46 |
| IntuitiveNipple | It may well. | 20:47 |
| vbgunz | updated grub to make it permanent | 20:47 |
| vbgunz | hey IntuitiveNipple, seriously if there is anything I can do. I'll do it | 20:48 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Keep the bug report updated with anything you discover, progress made, etc. | 20:48 |
| vbgunz | I mean everything is great now. wow. I am so happy. I just hope it keeps working. I heard suspend/resume is so flaky it just fails at some point... will try again now, then finally a suspend to disk... | 20:49 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: does Julien's bugcontrol app need anything else to be approved? | 20:51 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: a couple of days to get everyone sufficient time to comment | 20:53 |
| bdmurray | s/get/give/ | 20:53 |
| vbgunz | ok, going to try suspending to disk... I hope this works | 20:54 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: ahh okay, sounds good | 20:57 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: 3 suspend to rams, 3 successful resumes. 1 suspend to disk. 1 misrerable failure :P | 21:03 |
| BUGabundo | still at it? | 21:03 |
| vbgunz | I think it just turned off... heh, the last thing I saw was my ralink 2500 failed to enter state 1 of 16 or so... phy0 -> ralink2500... I forgot exactly | 21:03 |
| IntuitiveNipple | vbgunz: take a break whilst you're ahead... try again later. | 21:04 |
| vbgunz | BUGabundo: yeah. the pci=nomsi kernel parameter works for me just fine. awesome actually... the other day in Windows Server 2008 trial, I suspended to an IDE disk *but* was envious when it just came back up in perfect order :P | 21:04 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: haha, yeah | 21:05 |
| vbgunz | I'm happy :) | 21:05 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I've linked to the upstream bug report, so you might get some requests for information | 21:05 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: yeah sure. seriously, I'll help where I can | 21:05 |
| BUGabundo | great you manage to work aroung | 21:06 |
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| maxb | Recently I've discovered in a regression in the population of /dev/disk/by-uuid/, what bit of code is responsible for actually obtaining the disk uuids to stick in there? | 21:06 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: oh. just one more question. actually I'd appreciate if anyone could help out. when I resume. I'd like to resume into a locked screen. is this possible? | 21:08 |
| IntuitiveNipple | That is usually configured by the screensaver preferences | 21:08 |
| kees | maxb: udev calls vol_id to get uuids | 21:08 |
| BUGabundo | sure | 21:08 |
| BUGabundo | in gconf you have an option for that | 21:09 |
| maxb | thanks | 21:09 |
| vbgunz | IntuitiveNipple: thanks. my screensaver actually says start in 15 minutes. with a grace of 60 for a password to stop | 21:13 |
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| BUGabundo | vbgunz: in gconf you have an option for that | 21:15 |
| maxb | Well, this is quite special, jaunty vol_id says 5028D20428D1E8CC, schroot -c intrepid vol_id says 4df368f2-3879-41c8-b379-478151aac025, for the same fs! | 21:20 |
| vbgunz | BUGabundo: sorry. I am on Kubuntu | 21:21 |
| BUGabundo | ah | 21:25 |
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| maxb | Delightful. Apparently the preinstalled Linux on my Aspire One shipped with an NTFS boot record on the ext2 partition | 21:46 |
| maxb | Leading to further delight when the vol_id ntfs prober starts writing to the output buffer before it has made the final decision on detecting NTFS or not. | 21:47 |
| tuxmaniac | heya gang | 22:22 |
| tuxmaniac | anyone on jaunty who can test bug 291075 ? | 22:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 291075 in freehdl "Digital simulation in qucs don't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291075 | 22:22 |
| tuxmaniac | I believe it is a libtool issue and there has been updates to libtool in Jaunty | 22:22 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128: ping | 22:26 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx: contextless ping gives no replies | 22:26 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128: oh, i was just seeing if you were there.. apologies.. my main question, for bug #335696 you mentioned using apport instead of going through the tedious data gather that i did. Just for future reference to myself, is there a page that shows how to use apport (or how to instruct the user to use it for their bug) ? | 22:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 335696 in nautilus "nautilus crashes when opening ftp in new tab from bookmark" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335696 | 22:28 |
| tuxmaniac | bcurtiswx: i think it is an automated script. http://err.no/src/contentless_ping.pl | 22:29 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx: apport should trigger automatically on unstable ubuntu version when you get a crash, just click on "send the bug" button | 22:29 |
| tuxmaniac | oops I was wrong :) | 22:29 |
| seb128 | tuxmaniac: no it's not but I do the same because it's annoying to reply when you don't know what people want and if that's going to take you an hour of discussion or 30 seconds | 22:29 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx: on stable you can enable apport by tweaking /etc/default/apport | 22:30 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128: ok, thats what i was wondering. Thanks! | 22:31 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128: i believe apport allows the user to append the information to a current bug.. but im not 100%.. is this correct? | 22:34 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx: only in jaunty | 22:34 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128: so how should a stable release report be added to an open bug report? | 22:35 |
| seb128 | usually we just mark the non apport bug as duplicate | 22:35 |
| bcurtiswx | ok, thanks a lot for your help | 22:37 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 22:37 |
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| mrooney | bdmurray: do you think in the future those hooks can eliminate a lot of the stock responses like "please attach xxx and yyy"? | 23:29 |
| mrooney | It would be cool if when you clicked the "this bug affects me too" it attempted to collect that | 23:29 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: yes, so you'd ask a reporter to run 'apport-collect bugnumber' and it'd grab the information the package hook looks for. This makes things much easier for the reporter | 23:30 |
| bcurtiswx | when will this be backported to 8.10/8.04? (i know im being anxious, but that really helps triagers too). | 23:32 |
| bdmurray | I talked to pitti about this and apport-collect should be able to be run on 8.10 / 8.04 | 23:33 |
| bdmurray | people could just get it from http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/apport-collect | 23:33 |
| bdmurray | However, the package hook for cups doesn't exist in those releases | 23:34 |
| bdmurray | apport-collect would only be useful on previous releases with some packages | 23:34 |
| bcurtiswx | is there a list of which somewhere? | 23:34 |
| bdmurray | if you are running 8.10 you could look in /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/ | 23:34 |
| bcurtiswx | ok | 23:34 |
| bdmurray | but there is no list in the wiki but that'd be a great thing to have! | 23:35 |
| bcurtiswx | agreed | 23:35 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: it's pretty easy to write the package hooks too | 23:38 |
| mrooney | bdmurray: ah so I looked in that dir, does apport just look for a literal package name match hook? | 23:41 |
| bdmurray | mrooney: or for binary packages produced by a source package | 23:42 |
| mrooney | ah awesome there is already an xorg one | 23:44 |
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| bdmurray | yeah, basically there are hooks for usplash, apport, jockey, xorg-*, network-manager | 23:45 |
| bdmurray | we could use a lot more! | 23:45 |
| andresmujica | bdmurray which one is the wiki page? | 23:48 |
| bdmurray | andresmujica: I'm not understanding | 23:48 |
| andresmujica | (18:35:13) bdmurray: but there is no list in the wiki but that'd be a great thing to have! | 23:50 |
| bdmurray | andresmujica: right so there is no wiki page documenting the apport package hooks | 23:51 |
| andresmujica | is wiki page about that apport hooks? | 23:51 |
| andresmujica | ahhh | 23:51 |
| bdmurray | I'd be happy to help someone write one though | 23:51 |
| andresmujica | i would do it :) but i would need a base to start... | 23:52 |
| bdmurray | I think just having the packagename and the release the hook appeared in would be helpful | 23:52 |
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