[00:44] <tsrk> Is there any way for a non-administrative user to have something run automatically at startup/
[00:45] <JanC> tsrk: afteror before that user logs in?
[00:45] <tsrk> JanC, before, when the system starts up
[00:46] <tsrk> like when apache starts
[00:49] <JanC> tsrk: first of all you want to restrict what people can do in such a case
[00:49] <tsrk> JanC, by default is there a way to do it?
[00:53] <JanC> tsrk: not AFAIK, as it's potentially dangerous...
[00:53] <tsrk> JanC, ok, but how is it any more dangerous than user crontabs?
[00:55] <JanC> tsrk: well, if running as the user is okay, I guess user crontabs can already do what you want?
[00:57] <tsrk> JanC, that wouldn't be ideal since I only want one instance running and it'd be best if I didn't have to wait for the next cron cycle for it to start
[00:58] <ScottK> Regular init scripts start processes as a certain user all the time.
[00:58] <ScottK> I'm not sure what you're asking for that's unusual.
[01:00] <JanC> ScottK: except if he wants the user to "install" arbitrary things to start?
[01:01] <ScottK> No, but the question was run, not install.
[01:01] <ScottK> You can have an init script start some thing as any user.
[01:01] <tsrk> I want something like a user crontab but just for starting things when the system starts
[01:02] <ScottK> So write a script to do what you want and have an init script fire it off.
[01:08] <JanC> and don't let users change it, except in a very controlled way...
[01:10] <tsrk> ok
[01:10] <tsrk> I'll try that, thanks
[01:32] <hads> A user can start something at boot with cron via @reboot
[01:35] <tsrk> hads, wow, thanks!  that's exactly what i wanted!
[01:35] <tsrk> it makes so much sense :P
[01:38] <hads> Cool :)
[04:44] <jon_high9000> Hello, I was wondering is there a to setup a Mail Server so it can pull a pop3 account like Evolution or Thunderbird? I have gmail.
[05:16] <oh_noes> is it possible to tell ubuntu-vm-builder or vmuilder vmbuilder to create an OVF Compliant image?
[05:29] <twb> oh_noes: what is an OVF?
[05:29] <oh_noes> Oopen Virtualization Format
[05:29] <oh_noes> Open*
[05:30] <oh_noes> Or in others words, I'm having no luck getting vmbuilder/ubuntu-vm-builder to create a VM that ESX/ESXi can import.
[05:31] <twb> Ah, so OVF is a new native format for ESX, Xen and whatever Microsoft's native virtualization is called?
[05:33] <oh_noes> I'm not sure specifically, but it's the first attempt to create a single image that all platforms support and can run
[05:33] <twb> Cool.
[05:33] <twb> qemu-img is a bitch
[05:33] <twb> Not that I can actually help with your problem...
[05:44] <oh_noes> twb: ironically .. your might have just give me a workaround.  I'm thinking I might have to use vmbuilder to spit out a XEN image, then qemu-img to convert to ESX
[05:44] <oh_noes> twb: do you know what package qemu-img comes in?
[05:44] <twb> oh_noes: qemu
[05:48] <twb> oh_noes: to save you time
[05:49] <twb> Supported format: parallels qcow2 vvfat vpc bochs dmg cloop vmdk qcow cow host_device raw
[05:53] <oh_noes> twb: well,the interesting thing is that the vmdk `vmbuilder` is creating isn't a proper ESX vmdk
[05:53] <oh_noes> and it cant be imported
[05:53] <twb> That's probably because it has some plain text shit at the top
[05:54] <twb> try #qemu, I don't know much about it
[05:54] <oh_noes> Oh, really?  I didnt realize the vmbuilder to vmdk creation was actually a qemu problem.  Hrmmm
[07:36] <oh_noes> is it possible to apt-get install the developement/trunk version of vmbuilder?  (it has ESXi support I need)
[07:36] <oh_noes> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-virt/vmbuilder/trunk
[08:20] <Ethosser> hi guys, I don't seem to have a debian-sys-maint account even though i've installed LAMP server
[08:20] <Ethosser> any ideas?
[08:40] <jwstolk> hi. I have a server (firewall) with 4 nic's. I have set one nic as gateway  (the one connected to the DHCP ADSL modem), but DNS resolving still seems to use the wrong nic. how would I tell linux what nic to use for DNS?
[08:42] <giovani> jwstolk: you set your default gateway/interface
[08:42] <jwstolk> I did. (in /etc/network/interfaces)
[08:43] <giovani> so when you run route?
[08:43] <giovani> (pastebin the output)
[08:46] <jwstolk> http://pastebin.com/m79ca1ae3
[08:46] <giovani> and which interface do you expect/want your traffic going out?
[08:46] <jwstolk> should go over eth2
[08:46] <giovani> and where is it going?
[08:48] <jwstolk> not sure. it was working when I had the 10.0.0.0 subnet on eth1. I can still ping google and my http servers on the 10.0.0.x subnet. but can't ping "www.google.com"
[08:48] <jwstolk> (can if I use google IP directly)
[08:49] <giovani> well what's your DNS set to?
[08:49] <giovani> (cat /etc/resolv.conf)
[08:50] <jwstolk> output: 10.0.0.138  (my ADSL modem)
[08:51] <hads> Speedtouch
[08:51] <giovani> well, you have your interfaces confused, probably
[08:51] <giovani> because there's no way it's routing 10.0.0.138 over anything but eth2
[08:51] <giovani> I bet you got them switched
[08:51] <giovani> use ping -I ethX
[08:51] <giovani> btw
[08:52] <giovani> to confirm
[08:52] <jwstolk> I'll have another look. I checks hardware addresses, etc.
[08:52] <giovani> either there's some misconfiguration in your network
[08:52] <giovani> or you have your wires crossed
[08:52] <giovani> because your routes are fine
[08:52] <jwstolk> ok thanks.
[08:52] <giovani> and if you're able to get traffic to the internet ... then your computer can obviously contact .138
[08:52] <giovani> since it's your gateway
[08:52] <giovani> so if .138 is also your dns
[08:53] <giovani> clearly you've broken dns or something
[08:53] <giovani> if I were you, I'd be using a tap/hub
[08:53] <giovani> and capturing traffic on each interface with another machine one by one
[08:53] <giovani> until I isolated the problem
[08:53] <jwstolk> (ping -I eth2 10.0.0.138   works fine)
[08:53] <giovani> as it should
[08:53] <giovani> and ping -I eth2 4.2.2.2?
[08:54] <jwstolk> hmm. too
[08:54] <giovani> ok
[08:54] <giovani> now "traceroute 4.2.2.2"
[08:55] <giovani> pastebin the output
[08:55] <jwstolk> don't have traceroute installed yet, and apt-get is tricky without working dns...
[08:55] <giovani> just copy the package over manually then
[08:56] <giovani> it doesn't have any dependencies beyond libc
[08:56] <giovani> usbkey, or something
[08:56] <jwstolk> ok
[08:56] <giovani> what release of ubuntu are you running?
[08:56] <jwstolk> ubuntu-server 8.10, 64-bit
[08:57] <giovani> hmm, packages search is down, lame
[08:58] <giovani> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/traceroute/traceroute_2.0.11-2_amd64.deb
[08:58] <giovani> just copy it over and run "dpkg -i traceroute_2.0.11-2_amd64.deb"
[08:58] <jwstolk> thanks. (I was adding the ubuntu server to hosts...)
[08:59] <giovani> yeah, that works too
[08:59] <giovani> http://91.189.88.31/ubuntu/pool/main/t/traceroute/traceroute_2.0.11-2_amd64.deb
[09:03] <giovani> any luck?
[09:03] <jwstolk> hosts didn't work.
[09:03] <giovani> what?
[09:03] <jwstolk> trying wget
[09:03] <giovani> I gave you the url with an ip
[09:05] <giovani> hello?
[09:05] <jwstolk> wget also doesn't work. I think I better re-check the cabeling. I will be back later.
[09:05] <giovani> ok
[09:05] <giovani> well I'm off to bed
[09:06] <jwstolk> ok thanks
[09:07] <kraut> moin
[10:00] <jwstolk> traceroute does have dependencies. like send  :-(
[10:03] <_ruben> jwstolk: whats the exact contents of /etc/resolv.conf? and you could modify your /etc/apt/sources.list and replace the hostnames by ips, no need to download packages manually then
[10:05] <jwstolk> something else is going on. I added the package server to the hosts file, and even wget with IP's doesn't work.
[10:06] <jwstolk> resolv.conf: http://pastebin.com/m2db01509
[10:07] <_ruben> oh .. i misread your comment on using wget with ip's
[10:07] <_ruben> resolv.conf looks good
[10:07] <jwstolk> strange that wget doesn't work but ping does.
[10:08] <_ruben> that's a diff problem
[10:09] <_ruben> $ curl -I http://91.189.88.31/ubuntu/pool/main/t/traceroute/traceroute_2.0.11-2_amd64.deb | grep Loc
[10:09] <_ruben> Location: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/traceroute/traceroute_2.0.11-2_amd64.deb
[10:09] <_ruben> it redirects to the fqdn
[10:09] <jwstolk> oh
[10:10] <_ruben> use 213.136.29.211 instead .. its the dutch mirror which doesnt do any redirecting
[10:10] <jwstolk> well, I copied traceroute using an usb stick, but now I need "send"...
[10:11] <jwstolk> I'm wondering it would be simpler to re-install ubuntu, with the modem connected to the correct nic in the first place.
[10:13] <_ruben> just read a bit more history .. so you just changed the network port you hooked the modem on to? .. could you pastebin a small network diagram (which nic goes where), and the output of 'ip route' and 'ip addr'
[10:16] <jwstolk> 213.136.29.211 was the one I added to my hosts file. didn't work.
[10:17] <jwstolk> I insatlled ubuntu while connected using the on-board nick. then I configured the other 3 nics in /etc/networks/interfaces, and moved the modem to the new nic.
[10:18] <jwstolk> I a added firewall rule to allow everything from the firewall to the internet.
[10:18] <jwstolk> I'm logged into the firewall over SSH from the same subnet (and same nic) as the ADSL modem. (so the nic itself works)
[10:18] <Deeps> try using nameserver 4.2.2.2
[10:19] <Deeps> open public recursive dns server
[10:19] <_ruben> oh .. there are firewall rules in places as well .. then please pastebin the output of 'sudo iptables-save' .. and i do assume you restarted the networking of that box after changing wires and editing the interfaces file
[10:19] <jwstolk> yes
[10:19] <jwstolk> while box, several times
[10:19] <_ruben> ok
[10:23] <_ruben> (or flush all firewall rules to make sure those dont interfere)
[10:23] <jwstolk> iptables shows 279 lines. is that usefull? (I'm using "vuurmuur"). I think I should just sort out some things instead of waisting everyones time here. I'll be back later if thats ok.
[10:24] <_ruben> it could very well that vuurmuur isnt aware (yet) of your altered nic usage
[10:24] <jwstolk> I installed vuurmuur after the change
[10:25] <_ruben> didnt work befure you installed vuurmuur either ?
[10:25] <jwstolk> didn't try
[10:25] <_ruben> so it could be a vuurmuur config problem
[10:25] <_ruben> so i'd try disabling it for a bit, and see if anything changes
[10:26] <jwstolk> I already disbaled vuurmuur. should I flush the iptables rules as well?
[10:26] <_ruben> if iptables-save still shows 279 lines, then yes
[10:28] <_ruben> for a complete flush: echo -e "*filter\n:INPUT ACCEPT\n:FORWARD ACCEPT\n:OUTPUT ACCEPT\nCOMMIT" | sudo iptables-restore
[10:29] <jwstolk> that fixed it
[10:29] <jwstolk> I can ping www.google.com  now
[10:29] <_ruben> firewalls are the first thing to disable when troubleshooting network problems (when possible ofcourse)
[10:30] <jwstolk> started vuurmuur, no ping anymore. it's the problem
[10:30] <jwstolk> ok thank you.
[10:33] <_ruben> :)
[10:33] <_ruben> firewalls are a good thing, but only when properly configured :)
[10:34] <jwstolk> I have only accept rules, including one that alows everthing from firewall to internet.
[10:34] <_ruben> "only accept rules", but probably a default policy of DROP or REJECT
[10:35] <jwstolk> yes
[10:35] <_ruben> and only allowing from firewall to internet isnt enough, you'd have to atleast allow (inbound) related/established traffic for instance
[10:36] <_ruben> tho i kinda assume (or hope actually) that vuurmuur takes care of that
[10:36] <_ruben> and that's why i prefer to write my own firewall scripts/configs personally :)
[10:36] <jwstolk> :)
[10:39] <jwstolk> could have something to do with the fact that my hostname isn't "firewall" for some reason. after I added a rule for "any" the google ping works
[10:40] <jwstolk> I must hav picked the wrong host name the last time I re-installed ubuntu-server
[10:40] <_ruben> i never user vuurmuur myself (only know it by name), cant really help with its config ;)
[10:40] <_ruben> 'hostname' oughta tell you its hostname
[10:40] <_ruben> as do most (bash) prompts
[10:41] <jwstolk> it was on the prompt, I just didn't notice it before
[10:41] <achilles> hello, I'm trying to restrict ssh access only to one user, I added "AllowUsers MyUser " in ssh_conf but others can access
[10:42] <_ruben> achilles: you need sshd_conf
[10:42] <_ruben> ssh_conf is for the client
[10:43] <achilles> _ruben, oh thank you
[11:55] <Ethosser> guys anyone know a guide on how to setup ubuntu server to connect to mssql?
[11:56] <Ethosser> cause all im finding is shit guides that don't work
[11:56] <Ethosser> and people doing "freetds ffs"
[11:58] <_ruben> freetds is what a collegue of mine used ages ago, worked reasonably back then (years ago)
[11:58] <Ethosser> I can't seem to find a guide tho
[11:58] <Ethosser> one that works :D
[12:25] <jwstolk> _ruben: I think I found my problem (the biggest one at least) the Internet is slightly bigger than just the local sub-net where my ADSL modem is...   I just installed the last nic (5th) and it's going great.
[12:36] <AnRkey> i have url --url http://192.168.254.254/ubuntu/ in my ks.cfg file for my local repo to be used. the installer still looks at http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/... for the packages file though and not my local repos, how can i see why this is happening?
[12:36] <AnRkey> kickstart issue
[12:36] <AnRkey> soz :)
[12:43] <_ruben> jwstolk: why so many nics btw?
[12:45] <jwstolk> seperate wan/lan/home/wifi/dmz
[12:45] <jwstolk> it's a firewall :)
[12:48] <_ruben> jwstolk: ah .. had some trouble coming up with 5 zones that'd reside behind a dsl link (which tend to be for home usage) :)
[12:49] <jwstolk> we don't need a very fast network
[13:16] <sommer> morning all
[13:18] <fevel> hi guys
[13:18] <fevel> I need to get the first two lines from a file and transform into user and pass on htpasswd
[13:19] <fevel> can anyone give me a hand?
[13:23] <cemc> fevel: maybe like this:  head -2 /tmp/testfile.txt | awk -v ORS='' '{print $1":"$2}'
[13:45] <cemc> thx
[13:45] <cemc> (wrong win)
[14:16] <thefish> anyone know dhcpd at all? i have a subnet { with 2 range xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy statements, but these dont seem to be working
[14:25] <cemc> thefish: paste conf please
[14:42] <thefish> cemc: you want the entire conf?
[14:42] <thefish> the culprit line is just the range... bit
[14:42] <thefish> was working with just one
[14:46] <_ruben> thefish: you need to define a shared-network in order to have 2 ranges for a single interface
[14:54] <thefish> _ruben: ok thanks, what is a shared-network
[14:54] <thefish> and the ranges are on the same /24 network
[14:54] <thefish> its just a non-contiguous space
[14:57] <_ruben> thefish: oh .. then shared-network isnt what you're looking for
[14:58] <_ruben> do you get any error when loading such a config?
[14:58] <thefish> no error
[14:59] <thefish> ah, it seems now a client got an anddress in the new range :)
[14:59] <thefish> and all i did was think "i wish it would work" three times :D
[14:59] <_ruben> 2nd range wont be used untill first is full
[15:03] <thefish> cool, thanks _ruben
[15:03] <cemc> [15:23:55] <cemc> fevel: maybe like this:  head -2 /tmp/testfile.txt | awk -v ORS='' '{print $1":"$2}'
[15:05] <fevel> im trying something like this
[15:05] <fevel> awk '{system("htpasswd -bp "$1" "$2" passwds")}' users
[16:06] <Doonz> hey does anyone know what text based browser works well with a linksys router
[16:07] <sommer> Doonz: I like w3m, but links would probably work as well
[16:07] <Doonz> unfotrtunately they dont render the stupid conguration pages right
[16:07] <Doonz> configuration*
[16:08] <Doonz> ive tried: elinks, lynx, links, links2, w3m
[16:08] <sommer> Doonz: do they use javascript or something?
[16:10] <axisys> i wish ubuntu installation has option to setup a nic bonding during install
[16:10] <axisys> what is that site where you submit your feature request?
[16:12] <sommer> axisys: probably brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[16:12] <Doonz> sommer yeah
[16:12] <axisys> sommer: yep.. thats the one.. thnx
[16:13] <sommer> Doonz: then I'll bet you're out of luck for using a text browser... at least I don't know of any that can do javascript, but there may be one and I just don't know
[16:13] <sommer> axisys: np
[16:14] <Doonz> ok
[16:29] <JanC> some versions of (e)links can do (limited) JavaScript
[16:32] <JanC> http://elinks.or.cz/documentation/manual.html#ecmascript
[17:00] <axisys> i know x2100 has fake raid nvidia raid.. anyidea if x2100 m2 has similar raid as well
[17:00] <axisys> ?
[17:01] <yann2> ?
[17:01] <yann2> what's your problem with x2100?
[17:02] <axisys> yann2: i don't
[17:03] <axisys> yann2: i am wondering if x2100 M2 also have fake raid controller?
[17:03] <yann2> define fake?
[17:03] <yann2> I've had many disk issues with a x2100 if it has a weird controller that may explain
[17:04] <axisys> yann2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[17:04] <yann2> weird. don't think I had to do that. I think i must have had a normal raid card
[17:05] <axisys> when i enabled the raid in bios ubuntu recognized it.. and after installation when i take one of the disk out it remounted the root as read only
[17:05] <axisys> no wonder why recommend not to use nvidia fake raid
[17:06] <axisys> now i am installing it again by disabling the raid in bios and installing with software raid
[17:53] <axisys> how do I boot from a livecd iso over the network?
[17:57] <mathiaz> kirkland: is powernowd still installed by default on -server?
[17:57] <kirkland> mathiaz: no
[17:57] <mathiaz> kirkland: IIRC it wasn't necessary anymore.
[17:57] <kirkland> mathiaz: not needed
[17:58] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - thanks.
[18:35] <Ethosser> guys, i'm tar'ing up my intranet on ubuntu
[18:35] <Ethosser> I can untar if just fine on the box, but when I copy it up to windows it won't open with 7zip or winrar
[18:35] <Ethosser> any ideas? XD
[18:39] <simplexio> Ethosser: tar.gz ? should work in winrar, not 100% about bzip
[18:39] <oCean_> Ethosser: don't know anything about windows, but 7zip should do it according to docu. What options to tar do you use? -> creating a .tgz (tar cvfz) ?
[18:40] <Ethosser> http://pastie.org/private/scqhgnnoinakjxj0ocsqw
[18:40] <Ethosser> i've tried with 7zip too
[18:42] <oCean_> Ethosser: I really have no idea at all about windows... It could be that the .tgz throws it off. Try tar cvf first, than gzip www.tar - this way you should end up with www.tar.gz - maybe 7zip does know how to handle that?
[18:43] <Ethosser> thanks mate, i'll give it a go :)
[18:46] <Deeps> Ethosser: winrar can handle .tgz, as can winzip
[18:47] <Ethosser> hmm
[18:47] <Ethosser> I thought so
[18:47] <Ethosser> Wonder what's going on
[18:47] <Deeps> entirely possible 7zip's just having a baby over the .tgz extention instead of .gz
[19:11] <jerrymcfarts> Hello, I am having a problem. I am running Folding@home. But it wont shutdown when i tell it too.
[19:12] <jerrymcfarts> I am running it manually through a terminal, and I run it in SMP mode. I use the "ctrl+c" to to get back to the bash console, but when I issue "top" the FAHCORE is still running
[19:12] <jerrymcfarts> killall FAHCORE and killall fah6 seem to work, my CPU gets relieved, but the processes get reinstated
[19:12] <jerrymcfarts> and top shows they are back up and running
[19:13] <jerrymcfarts> kk 'killall -9 fah6' worked
[19:13] <jerrymcfarts> thanks all
[19:14] <jerrymcfarts> :-) didn't think about the -9 option until i was typing it out
[20:46] <axisys> how do I change this line so that I can see the OS from console ? currently I need to connect a monitor to see the grub ..
[20:46] <axisys> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=/dev/md0 ro quiet splash quiet
[20:47] <axisys> may be vga=txt ?
[21:02] <giovani> from console?
[21:02] <giovani> a monitor is your console
[21:02] <cemc> axisys: you mean thru serial ?
[21:07] <axisys> cemc: yes :-)
[21:09] <orudie> how can i make a file executable ?
[21:12] <malakhi> orudie: chmod +x file_name
[21:17] <giovani> cemc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[21:17] <giovani> it's more than just working with grub
[21:17] <giovani> that might be a tad out of date -- so use common sense
[21:17] <ScottK> cemc: The Dapper clamav backport is done today.  Thanks again for your help.
[21:25] <cemc> ScottK: that's good news
[21:25] <drbobb> cemc: followed your advice, but it still didn't work
[21:25] <cemc> drbobb: about the grub installing thing?
[21:25] <drbobb> yeah
[21:26] <drbobb> i mean i ran setup from inside grub
[21:26] <giovani> sorry cemc, that was meant for axisys
[21:26] <cemc> giovani: yeah, i got it ;)
[21:26] <cemc> drbobb: and did it install correctly?
[21:26] <drbobb> now it finds stage1.5 on the hdd, but gets stuck there
[21:27] <drbobb> yeah the message was that it succeeded
[21:27] <drbobb> so i'm still stuck with keeping a boot floppy in the fdd all the time
[21:27] <drbobb> (not that i need the fdd for anything else)
[21:28] <cemc> and you have a simple SATA hdd on sda, and that's it ?
[21:29] <cemc> nothing fancy ?
[21:29] <drbobb> weird, i've installed linux on ~100 pc's or so, never seen this before
[21:29] <cemc> me neither
[21:29] <drbobb> well there is a plain ATA controller, two channels, only thing on it is the dvd/cd
[21:29] <giovani> drbobb: did you try just starting fresh with a new install?
[21:30] <drbobb> and a onboard SATA in addition to that
[21:30] <drbobb> yes it was a fresh install, from the hardy server edition
[21:31] <giovani> but you've just tried to repair since, no? did you try just doing a reinstall since the problem started?
[21:31] <drbobb> nope, why should i reinstall
[21:32] <drbobb> it works fine, other than grub
[21:32] <giovani> because you've tried 5 ways of repairing and it's not working?
[21:32] <drbobb> only tried reinstalling grub in 3 different ways
[21:33] <giovani> ...
[21:33] <giovani> I clearly wasn't trying to be exact
[21:33] <drbobb> via grub-install, and under grub's native shell
[21:33] <giovani> the point being, you've tried every repair method we can think of
[21:33] <giovani> and it hasn't resovled the issue
[21:33] <drbobb> right
[21:33] <giovani> so ... it may be time to cut your losses, and try and full reinstall, in case this is some odd problem that won't be fixed with these solutions
[21:34] <drbobb> only other idea i can think of is to try lilo insted
[21:34] <giovani> ...
[21:34] <giovani> heh
[21:34] <giovani> have fun
[21:35] <drbobb> my best guess is that maybe the bios is buggy in some way
[21:35] <drbobb> cause iiuc grub uses bios calls to load its stuff from the hdd
[21:38] <drbobb> i did some stressing of the machine and it seems to be working fine, other than that booting issue
[21:39] <drbobb> i mean like a full kernel recompile, and an rsync of a few dozen gigs of data across the LAN
[21:51] <pjsturgeon> Anyone know what could be stopping WoL from working? Got ubuntu server 8.10 wired mobo ethernet connection. supports pumbg and is set to g using an init.d script that is working
[21:51] <pjsturgeon> using DHCP and a BT Home Hub router/modem (which is always good fun...)
[22:06] <pjsturgeon> nobody wants to get involved with Wake on Lan support? heh
[22:08] <docta_v> anyone know of a good batch scheduling system? only thing i can find is this arcane thing called job scheduler
[22:09] <JanC> docta_v: what do you mean by "batch scheduling system"?
[22:10] <dsmith-work> Reminds me of something on AIX.
[22:11] <JanC> dsmith-work: and what did that do?
[22:11] <dsmith-work> Kind of like a printer queue, and in fact, used a lot of the same machinery.
[22:11] <dsmith-work> You could submit batch "jobs" to it, kind of like cron.
[22:12] <dsmith-work> But it would run them in sequence, not at a specific time.
[22:12] <JanC> ah, something to emulate pre-multitasking operating systems?  ツ
[22:12] <JanC> (j/k)
[22:12] <dsmith-work> Well, aix.
[22:13] <JanC> I suppose it would need support for priorities and rescheduling and such
[22:20] <docta_v> something that supports job chains and multiple batch servers
[22:20] <docta_v> so if a batch server dies you can rerun the chain on another system, etc.
[22:20] <docta_v> or if a chain fails you can rerun with the correct order
[22:23] <maswan> docta_v: slurm is the sensible batch scheduler
[22:23] <JanC> ah, that sounds like you might want to look into some of the cluster-related packages
[22:24] <maswan> docta_v: don't know if it does any of the fancy stuff though, but it does batch execution
[22:25] <andol> kirkland: What happend to bug #296952? Not enough background from me?
[22:25] <docta_v> cool i will take a look
[22:27] <kirkland> andol: hi there
[22:28] <kirkland> andol: actually, i think it was the Alpha Freeze
[22:28] <kirkland> andol: i'll get that uploaded
[22:28] <andol> kirkland: great
[22:29] <Nafallo> oooh debdiff
[22:29] <Nafallo> that's easy enough :)
[22:41] <Rafael_> ebox vs webmin: i am newby and i know everybody says that ebox is supoorted and webmin no, i have play with the 2 and find webmin esier and with more functions that ebox..WHY should i use ebox????
[22:42] <jpds> !webmin | Rafael_
[22:43] <Rafael_> jpds: can you please elabore a little your answer?
[22:44] <jpds> webmin will probably break your system.
[22:46] <Rafael_> thanks
[22:59] <sjad9> Sorry for the noob question, but how do I get snmpwalk to show the dskTable?  Right now it just shows very basic system info.
[23:49] <areay> how can i setup centralized logins for my network, so that home folders and usernames/passwords are kept on a server?
[23:59] <oh_noes> Anyone using the latest ESXi support in vmbuilder from trunk?