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viddtrece8, sorry...no i dont00:05
kalevamm I see, a lil' messy that thing, but I need it. I am developing sites and i m getting crazy with gftp00:07
trece8vidd... for me it seems like a basic thing to know... i am astonished that no one knows how to do it00:07
trece8i mean, i have to do that or reinstall xubuntu (for one update, is insane)00:08
j1mctrece8: there's a way to do it, but i don't know what it is.  maybe google for "ubuntu revert to previous version of software" or something00:11
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kalevasheep, if i fullfil it, i ll write something in italian. there is nothing about00:23
kalevahi the sheep , could I ask u for fuse!?00:43
kalevaI need some help: No package 'gnome-keyring-1' found No package 'gconf-2.0' found No package 'libfusi' found01:00
kalevaI dunno How it is, i mean The libraries are installed01:01
j1mckaleva: sudo aptitude install gnome-keyring01:01
kalevammm ok01:01
kalevanothing. the same problem01:05
j1mc:/01:06
j1mckaleva: what are you trying to do?01:07
kalevai suppose it would be nothing difficult but... I m trying to compile from source pacckage fuse01:08
kaleva./configue make and make install01:08
kalevahttp://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems01:10
kalevai wanna try to compile this one http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/fuse/index.php?title=Main_Page#Filesystem_Users01:12
kalevasynaptic says everythng is ok01:12
craigbass1976What's the xubuntu app that lets me browse samba shares?01:20
kalevammm01:21
kalevaprobably fuse  i'm not sure01:21
j1mccraigbass1976: there will be the ability to browse samba shares in xubuntu 9.0401:22
j1mcbut until then i'd check out fusesmb01:22
kalevajlms any ideas for my problem?!01:23
craigbass1976j1mc, ok, it's installed.  That's kind of a weird process.  THanks though01:33
j1mckaleva: why are you trying to install fuse from source?01:33
j1mcthere's already a fuse package in xubuntu01:33
kalevammm ok i m wrong01:34
kalevai miss something01:42
kalevai want ftp to be lika a folder01:42
kalevais that possible with gfuse?01:42
j1mckaleva: i'm not sure - that's a good question.  it's probably possible with nautilus (gnome) or konqueror (kde), but thunar (xfce) would take some work.01:48
kalevammm ok your suggestion are always welcome01:49
sug1how do i browser files over the network?02:47
Wildburnanyone super handy with installing nvidia around?03:35
Sw3RvEhey, which flash "app" works best. im having trouble with the nonfree flash plugin04:33
Sw3RvEwhen im on youtube sometimes where the video should be playing its just blank white and the sound plays.04:34
Sw3RvEanyone awake?04:49
viddim awake...just dont know04:54
viddcan you give an example?04:55
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rockodoes AMD Virtualization05:14
rockomean that you can use kernel virtualization ?05:14
zoredachemaybe?05:15
viddrocko, in what sense? where are you seeing amd virtualization?05:21
viddi have a strange senario.....05:23
viddi want to load a cli, ssh -X into another machine, and run rdesktop.....05:24
viddwhat do i need installed on my local machine?05:24
viddwould gdm without a window manager do what i need?05:25
zoredachetrying to make a thin-client type setup?05:25
viddyeah...i suppose i am =]05:26
zoredache!ltsp05:26
ubottuLTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project05:26
zoredachethat might be a starting point...  you can run rdesktop without a windows manager...05:27
Sw3RvEis there another flash plugin that works better than the nonfree one?05:28
viddSw3RvE, i prefer the nonfree one....05:28
Sw3RvEoh05:28
viddbut you might try gnash05:28
Sw3RvEdoes yours ever go blank white05:28
viddnever05:28
zoredacheSw3RvE: i prefer no flash at all usually05:29
viddthis was why i asked for an example05:29
Myrttiswfdec is wonderful05:29
rockonevermind vidd05:36
rockoamd virtulization is kernel virtualization05:37
rockohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization#AMD_virtualization_.28AMD-V.2905:37
Sw3RvEwhat kind of example am i supposed to give you?05:38
viddwell...good night all05:38
viddSw3RvE, an example of what your loading that "whites out" on you05:38
viddbut if it random (sometimes it plays other times it dont with the same video) it might be your system05:39
Sw3RvEYoutube...05:40
viddbut is it "video A never plays right, but vedio B does"05:41
viddor is it "today video A plays, yesterday it didnt"05:41
viddif its the first senerio, then it could be bad video05:42
Sw3RvEyea kinda. like the first video or first couple videos play.05:42
viddif its the second, then you may have a system load issue05:42
Sw3RvEthen the next will be white and the sound plays05:42
viddbut if it was a flash problem, all would behave the same05:43
Sw3RvEso i just have to deal with it and close firefox to make a video play05:43
viddSw3RvE, sounds like a system load issue05:44
viddhow "light" is your system?05:44
Sw3RvElight as in what05:44
viddhow much ram05:45
Sw3RvE2 GB05:45
Sw3RvEand why is my wifi going on and off by itself05:45
Sw3RvEit just started doing that05:45
viddyou running an amd64?05:45
Sw3RvEyes05:45
Sw3RvE64-bit xubuntu05:46
viddit may be related to that.....05:46
viddim only running 32-bit05:46
viddeven on my 64-bit system05:47
Sw3RvEso it could be a bug with the 64-bit version05:47
viddits possible....05:47
Sw3RvEits not that annoying i was just wondering if they had a better plugn05:48
viddi have never experienced this phenominan05:48
vidd(i cant spell either!)05:48
viddim sure gnash has greatly improved since i last tried it05:48
viddgood night (again)05:51
JuanLQuick Q, anyone know how to Print Landscape instead of the other way i want to print a picture and use the full page instead of a small portion06:03
zoredachedon't know anything about printing in landscape, but have you consider simply rotating the picture?06:05
JuanLthen it would shrink it down06:06
JuanLi tried in Firefox and in the Gimp image editor06:06
JuanLusing Brother MFC-290C and Xubuntu 8.1006:06
zoredacheeh?  doing a rotate shouldn't change the dimentions06:06
raevolhey guys, trying to manually set up xfce, what command does the menu issue on xubuntu to get the shutdown dialogue?06:08
JuanLtrying it now zoredache,06:08
raevolanyone? can you just tell me what the "quit" entry on your menu does?06:15
JuanLshutdown.06:17
JuanLalso the icon in the top right corner does same thing06:17
JuanLif you have the bars enabled06:17
raevolugh06:17
raevoli wanted the command it issues...06:17
rockoraid is for backups right ?06:18
raevolrocko: it splits data saved across several drives so that if one fails the data can be saved06:19
raevolyou usually use it on servers06:19
rockoI see06:19
zoredacheno, it is not for backups at all06:19
zoredacheit is for redudancy, and performance06:19
raevolzoredache: can you tell me what the "quit" entry on your menu does?06:20
zoredacheraevol: not really, no06:20
raevolnot what happens when you click on it, but what the menu editor says it does06:20
raevoljust right click on your menu, click edit menu, and look at the quit itme06:20
raevolitem06:20
zoredacheI am not on my linux box right now06:20
raevolUGH06:21
raevolrocko, can you do that?06:21
rockoWINBLOWS :(06:21
rockodo what ?06:21
zoredachehave you tried looking on google?06:21
raevolright click on your xfce menu, click edit emnu, and read what the "quit" entry does06:21
raevoli've looked everywhere06:21
raevolirc is my last resort06:21
rockowhat is it suppose to tell me ?06:21
rockothat you want it to ?06:21
raevolthere should be a "command" column, what does it say in that column next to quit?06:22
rockoquit06:25
rockois what it says06:26
raevolhmm ok06:26
raevolthat just logs my xfce out, doesn't show the shutdown dialogue06:26
raevolwonder what i am missing06:26
rockoQuit : quit06:26
raevolthanks06:27
rockoare you logging in via console or the graphical login prompted ? raevol06:27
raevolgdm06:27
rockoif you are using the console than that is why06:27
raevolthe graphical one06:28
rockoyou will have to shutdown with the shutdown command06:28
raevoli switched from slim to gdm after installing xfce though06:28
rockolike so "shutdown -h now"06:28
rocko"sudo shutdown -h now"06:28
raevolwell i should be able to get the shutdown dialogue to work, no?06:28
rockotry it06:29
raevoldoing that from the console works06:29
raevoli want to get the actual graphical shutdown dialogue to work06:29
rockomaybe you need to restart the panel06:29
rockoor x06:29
raevolah my stupidity06:30
raevolgot it working06:30
raevoldidnt have "prompt on logout" checked06:30
raevolthanks, and sorry for the noise06:30
victoriahi08:30
victoriahello08:44
victoriaim trying to install a new theme08:44
victoriai already download the one i like08:44
TheSheepgtk theme?08:44
victoriayes08:44
TheSheepok, unpack it and put into .themes directory08:44
TheSheepin your home08:44
TheSheepyou might need to enable 'show hidden files' in thunar view menu to see it08:44
victoriaok08:45
victoriadone08:45
victorianow?08:45
TheSheepnow it should work08:46
TheSheepit should appear under appearance settings08:46
TheSheepsorry, 'user interface' settings08:46
victoriabut it does not:)08:47
TheSheepok, is there a gtkrc file in your theme?08:47
victoriai cant see08:49
victoriathe files08:49
TheSheepwhy not?08:49
victoriayou mean in the them i just download?08:51
victoriawhen i double click the only window that apperas.. is the one that ask.. open with..08:51
victoriai cant see inside of it08:51
TheSheepok, let me make the procedure clear08:51
TheSheepyou download the theme from some website, uzually it's a .zip or a .tar.gz archive file08:52
TheSheepusually*08:52
victoriayes it was08:52
TheSheepyou unpack it to your .themes directory08:52
victoriathe i copy that .gz file to the .thems and extrac it there08:52
victoriaand sorry now i08:53
victoriawas able to see it08:53
victoriaand yes08:53
victoriathere is a08:53
TheSheepit should, among other things, contain file  .themes/<theme name>/gtk-2.0/gtkrc08:53
victoriagtrc08:53
TheSheepis the path like the one I just told, or is there any other subdirectory in it?08:54
victoriano subdirectory08:55
TheSheepmaybe you can give me the link to where you download the theme?08:55
victoriais like the one you told me08:56
victoriaand there is gtrc08:57
victoriayes08:57
victoriagtkc08:57
victoriahttp://th3r0b.deviantart.com/art/TechniX-8356267408:57
victoriayou know what something in the process is wrong because i download another them just to try08:59
victoriaand do the same process08:59
victoriaand08:59
victoriasame thing08:59
victorianot working08:59
TheSheephmm... it's just a single compressed file09:00
TheSheepaah, rename it from .gz to .tar.gz before unpacking09:01
victoriaoh nice09:04
victoriathis time works09:04
victoriawhat about the window manager?09:05
victoriawhere i should unpack it09:05
TheSheepsame09:05
TheSheepit should contain an xfwm/themerc file on the other hand09:06
TheSheepxfwm4/themerc09:06
victoriai see09:06
victoriai did the same thing with the other them09:07
victoriabut the trick didnt work09:07
victoriabut that one. was .tgz not .gz09:07
TheSheepthe list of window manager themes is in setting manager in window manager settings09:07
victoriais09:11
victoriathis one working for you ?09:11
victoriahttp://sixsixfive.deviantart.com/art/DarkGrey-9566941209:11
TheSheepvictoria: it contains 3 themes09:12
TheSheepvictoria: there are 3 directories called cp-to-your-share-themes09:12
victoriayes09:13
victoriai extract them all09:13
TheSheepvictoria: their contents should be copied to .themes, not the whole thing09:13
victoriai see09:13
TheSheepDarkGrey and DarkGrey-nogradient direcotries, from the 'cp-to-share-themes' directory09:14
victoriaok09:18
victoriai didnt like it:)09:18
victoriabut thank you09:18
victoriaim going to sleep now thank you very much09:19
victoriagood night smart boy09:19
TheSheepgood night09:19
victoriaciao09:19
gaurav__hey can anybdy help me install me12:26
gaurav__sorry install ekiga*12:26
SiDisudo apt-get install ekiga ? :)12:38
gaurav__ya i had gone for tht12:42
mnemochello, is any upgrade planned for the xubuntu-dev ppa for intrepid?13:28
mnemocwhat ppa has to be used to get something newer than 4.5.91 in ubuntu 8.10?14:04
inntegragood morning 2 u all and good morning cody14:30
cody-somervilleMorning14:31
inntegraso about my CANON imageCLASS D340 is there any way to install it cody, i did try several things yesterday even with some other models but non of them worked14:31
cody-somervilleinntegra, Sorry :(14:31
inntegraok14:31
inntegrano problem then  i believe GNU/LINUX does not support at all this printer right=14:32
inntegra?14:32
inntegraback to nasty windows then :(14:32
inntegrathxs for the help anyway cody maybe some other time14:33
inntegrabye14:33
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Ishanyone able to help with a basic basic mysql question?15:24
mnemocIsh: /join #mysql ?15:25
Ishthey don't help15:25
Ishthey're busy with their higher level programming stuff15:26
Ishi just need to change my user/pass15:26
charlie-tcaIt's usually better to ask your real question and let someone answer if they know, then to ask it a question can be answered without telling the question15:26
Ishright-o, how do i change my user/pass?15:26
Ishright now i hate mysql, nothing should be like it15:27
charlie-tcaI have not been able to do that in mysql. I always have to create a new user15:27
charlie-tcaYou can also ask in #ubuntu, it should be the same way in Xubuntu and Ubuntu15:28
Ishthat would be fine too, as long as it lets webpages use mysql15:28
charlie-tcaGive the new user all privileges, and it should15:28
Ishall the webpages i look at trying to figure out the simple stuff, ends up being way too much information for what i need15:29
Ishi think i'll end up being good friends with phpmyadmin peeps since that seems to be what i need15:29
tawIs it possible to use fvwm as window manager with xfce panel, desktop, etc?15:55
pteagueis there a count down clock either as a panel widget for xubuntu or a normal program?  something similar to kteatime in kde15:56
ajrionhello, can someone please suggest to me an easy to use firewall for xubuntu with gui ?15:57
ajrionhello, can someone please suggest to me an easy to use firewall for xubuntu with gui ?16:03
_Pete_firestarter16:05
gaurav__hi every116:07
gaurav__hey can any1 help me ,when ever i restart my xubuntu linux i always have to configure my LAN settings to connect to internet16:09
gaurav__wht is the problem ,does any1 knw tht16:10
charlie-tca!patience | gauvav16:11
ubottugauvav: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines16:11
charlie-tcapteague: xfce4-timer-plugin is available as a panel add-on; install it in Synaptic Package Manager, then add it to the panel16:13
charlie-tcaI don't know  what kteatime is like, though16:13
tawgaurav__, if you are using allways same network settings, edit /etc/network/interfaces, see man interfaces16:13
gaurav__sure charlie-tca and it is Gaurav not gauvav16:13
gaurav__ok taw16:14
charlie-tcagaurav__: , check the name you are using. This is the name you gave freenode16:14
gaurav__oh ok16:14
charlie-tcataw: panels are part of xfwm window manager, so changing to fvwm will probably mean they are not usable16:16
charlie-tcaBut, the good part is, you can try another window manager, and if you don't like it, switch back to xfwm16:17
tawcharlie-tca, ok. Maybe I have to switch back to fvwm. Looks like nothing beats it on configurability16:19
tawI can't find where to change what window manager xfce4-session starts?16:20
tawon systemwide it's easy, but for one user?16:20
charlie-tcashould be at the log-in screen. click on Session16:21
charlie-tcaThat's probably wrong, huh?16:22
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tawouch, xfce4 session manager doesn't work properly on multi-display environment16:39
cody-somervilleSure it does.16:40
tawand my terminals are not on those desks where they should be, but all are started on same desk16:41
JPohlmanntaw: That's not a multi head problem.16:42
JPohlmanntaw: I mean, that also happens when you only have one monitor.16:42
tawyes, multi-head problem is most likely not xfce, but some stupid apps like skype start where ever they want to16:42
tawJPohlmann, that's not nice16:43
tawat least for my use, not to have those windows opened at all is even better than have them in wrong places16:44
JPohlmannThe problem is ... it's not easy to find out which window belongs where.16:45
tawI can believe it16:46
JPohlmannWindows don't necessarily have a unique identifier across different sessions so that you can remember their positions on the window manager side.16:46
tawyes, it's just question that I'm not compatible with software :-)16:46
tawit's possible to use fvwm as window manager, just running 'fvwm -replace' and logging out replaces16:49
tawpanels still work, but fvwm needs some config for not to add borders, etc16:49
tawlooks like xfce4-terminal doesn't have command line option to specify on which desk to start some particular window17:18
tawand most likely so are all other apps17:18
zoredachetaw: you can use devilspie to send things to a certain desktop17:19
tawthanks!17:20
tawhmm, but that would be usefull if I want all my terminals on workspace 5?17:22
zoredacheyes, you should be able to do that17:26
tawsorry, expressed myself badly17:27
tawthat's not waht I want, but that's the only thing I can do?17:27
tawI want one terminal here, other there?17:27
TheSheepdevilspie is fully programmable17:30
TheSheepyou can invent any rules you want17:31
TheSheepas long as you can write them down in lisp17:31
tawany reference manual for it?17:36
atrox_whats the default network manager called in Xubuntu?17:43
knomeatrox_, network manger.17:44
knome+a17:44
atrox_ok, im trying to establish a network connection using fluxbox with xubuntu17:44
atrox_and I got told in #fluxbox17:44
atrox_<tangent> atrox_: then you need to ask your distro for how to connect using those tools properly.17:45
knomeatrox_, do you have nm-applet running?17:45
pteaguecharlie-tca: cool, thanks for the timer plugin :)  not as easy/quick to set an immediate time & go, but guess it works :)18:05
charlie-tcaYou are welcome18:06
Moodanyone try puppy linux?18:10
fyahbunhi18:14
durtMood: what about it?18:14
Mooddurt: how much smaller footprint vs xubuntu?18:14
charlie-tca!hi | fyahbun18:14
ubottufyahbun: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!18:14
fyahbunhi thanks.18:15
fyahbuni need some help. its about the xubuntu booting.18:15
Moodfyahbun: just ask your question and someone may answer18:15
charlie-tca!help18:15
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durtMood: well I can't quantify it but it's much faster, Xubuntu is unuseable on my old PII 96 meg lappy but puppy is faily good, but as all linux distros go web surfing sux with gecko.18:16
durton old machines18:17
Mooddurt: if you want the smallest linux footprint, why choose puppy over DSL?18:17
Moodpuppy seems in-between xubuntu and DSL18:17
durtMood: dunno18:17
fyahbuni've looking, and it seen that I have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add rootdelay=90, this is for  Ubuntu, but on Xubuntu??18:17
Mooddurt: have you tried dillo?18:17
charlie-tcafyahbun: Xubuntu will use the same options18:17
durtdillo is still alpha, so is midori18:17
Mooddurt: you have puppy installed on one machine?18:18
durtMood: not anymore, I use U-lite on that old lappy18:18
fyahbunyes. now i see the menu.lst, but where exactly should I change the rootdelay?18:19
Mooddurt: what made you change to u-lite?18:19
Moodease?18:19
durtMood: I just like experimenting.18:19
Mooddurt: ah18:20
Mooddurt: remember what x manager you used w/ puppy? xfce?18:20
charlie-tcafyahbun: to the end of the line that starts with "kernel"18:20
durtMood: also puppy is a 'live distro' HD install is a PITA18:20
durtMood: no, IIRC lxde18:21
charlie-tcafyahbun: this explains it in detail: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-985348.html18:21
fyahbuncharlie-tca: thanks, I'll check it.18:22
Mooddurt: your experience w/ puppy HD install was challenging?18:22
charlie-tcapuppy and dsl would be better discussed in #xubuntu-offtopic18:22
Moodcharlie-tca: ok. was just curious w/ other ppl w/ limited hardware18:22
charlie-tcaYou could ask here and then have them enter the offtopic channel for more discussions18:23
Moodcharlie-tca: gotcha18:23
durtMood: join #xubuntu-offtopic18:23
FoxkehI was just trying to play a game that used18:53
FoxkehOops, hit enter to early. Anyways: That used Java and needed to login and whenever I hit a key it would just go into the quick find in Firefox, any idea how I can get it to type in the game, not the search?18:54
taw__Foxkeh, does clicking the game with mouse help?18:55
FoxkehNo, I tried that.18:55
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tawOk, now my xfce plays fine with fvwm18:57
tawStyle Xfce4-panel NoTitle,!Borders,Sticky,WindowListSkip,CirculateSkipIcon,CirculateSkip, GNOMEUseHints18:58
tawthat on .fvwmrc, and panels are ok18:58
FoxkehAnyone got any idea what's wrong with my Java?19:05
soodhi every119:20
soodhey i m new to linux and just want help ,over few topics like sessions19:22
soodi mean how to delete the last saved sessions in xubunutu linux19:22
soodhelp please19:22
FoxkehI'm not sure how to delete, but if you don't want to get back to your last session, then uncheck "Save my session" when shutting down. If it doesn't work, log out and go into "Sessions>1. XFCE session", I think that's what it's called. It's one below "last session".19:25
soodthax Foxkeh for rep,i did tht only but still it asks me for two sessions Gaurav and default19:27
soodi mean my last two session names19:27
FoxkehSo, you mean you just want to delete the sessions? That's all?19:30
soodyaa19:37
Aquinahow can I forc-rebuild the Xfce menu?20:19
tawdoes update-menus help?20:20
Aquina*lol*20:28
AquinaI performed it before I read your post.20:28
AquinaNow the menue has lost my customization.20:29
AquinaThe entry under Office (office software) I modified is not shown laso.20:30
AquinaI need to know how exactly XFCE generates the menue. Where it reads desktop files, where it takes the icons from etc.20:30
Aquina:-( *cry*20:31
AquinaCan I undo update menus? Is there a way to recover?20:31
tawanyway you better find way to do your changes update-menus compatible, since that's run after you install/uninstall apps20:33
taw(or that is what I think, correct me if I'm wrong)20:33
tawrun 'update-menus -v' so you see bit more what's running20:34
charlie-tcaAquina: they should be coming from /usr/share/applications20:36
tawmenu entries come from /usr/share/menu20:54
Jan|what do I need for a slideshow images screensaver on xuuntu?21:07
crazygirwhere might I find the eht0 interface device?21:33
crazygir*eth*21:34
crazygirI'd expect this in /dev..21:34
zoredachecrazygir: what do you need it for?  can you provide more context?21:38
crazygirzoredache: well first, it's a bit puzzling when a distro breaks convention, secondly, I'm setting up networking in virtual box, and need to specify the location21:39
zoredachenetwork interfaces don't usually have devices in /dev21:41
B14CKH4Ti need to know the conky gedit command in xubuntu 8.1021:42
crazygirzoredache: ?21:44
crazygirwhere are they?21:44
crazygirif my interface is eth0, what would I tell vbox?21:45
zoredachetell it eth0 I would guess21:45
crazygirno good21:45
crazygiris there no device file?21:45
crazygirhow does that work?21:45
zoredachenot for network interfaces21:45
TheSheepzoredache: they don't?21:45
crazygirthat seems rather crazy..21:45
crazygirmaybe that's just me21:46
zoredachehave you ever seen something named eth* under /dev?  I haven't21:46
crazygirzoredache: do you mean in other distros?21:46
crazygiryes.. plenty21:46
TheSheepzoredache: I think I did, but not with udev21:46
zoredacheif you look at the man page for mknod, it talks about block and character devices.  Which which a network interface be?21:47
TheSheepcharacter21:47
TheSheepjust like the irda and bluetooth devices21:48
crazygirzoredache: still, every other distro I've used has it's networking device files in /dev.. at least somewhere21:48
crazygirit's fine if xubuntu doesn't, but I don't understand what the equivalent is21:49
TheSheepzoredache: and there is /etc/net/tun, which is also a network device21:49
crazygirso I'm not really sure what I should be telling vbox21:49
crazygiryea, I've got /dev/net/tun21:49
zoredacheI have never seen them, but I have been pretty much exclusive to debian/ubuntu since 200121:49
crazygirzoredache: gentoo, and the BSDs all use /dev/something21:49
zoredacheI don't remeber every seeing device files for network interfaces21:50
zoredacheever*21:50
charlie-tcacrazygir: did you make a tap ??21:50
TheSheepok21:50
TheSheepI must have brought it from solaris or bsd21:50
TheSheephttp://www.redhat.com/archives/guinness-list/2002-October/msg00031.html21:50
charlie-tcaI never give VBox a location, just tell it to use tap1, after I created it.21:50
crazygircharlie-tca: for vbox? you don't need to anymore21:50
crazygirfor host interface you should be able to specify the eth device and go on your merry way21:51
crazygirfor the 2.x series at least21:51
danopiahi21:51
charlie-tcaI still don't see where to put a location21:52
charlie-tca2.1.421:53
crazygircharlie-tca: docs say "interface name"  after trying eth0, I thought it'd want a device file21:53
crazygirsupposedly there should be a list of available interfaces21:54
crazygirbut I don't have one :P21:55
charlie-tcaon 1.5, it was simply tap1. I gather eth0 won't work, maybe there is something on the VBox forums21:55
crazygiryea, I've asked around the vbox irc21:55
crazygirso far no luck21:55
charlie-tcaMaybe you have to create a virtual interface, like eth0:0 in /etc/network/interface21:55
charlie-tcaI'm just using NAT in jaunty. I haven't played with it much yet21:56
dekkardgot a little problem... booted into an xfce session.. and all the fonts.. are like 80 point.. is there a config file I can delete so that i can start a session like its the first time?21:58
B14CKH4Tu check your grafic card21:59
dekkardno.. but lxde session is fine21:59
Mooddekkard: settingsmanager?22:00
charlie-tcadekkard: It is the DPI setting.22:00
dekkardhere is the problem... everything is so big.. I mean totally huge, that i can barely navigate any menus.. i mean fonts are like two inches tall22:01
crazygircharlie-tca: how would I create the virtual interface like eth0:0?22:01
dekkarddpi..dot per inch22:01
charlie-tcaIn Intrepid, it should be Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager - User Interface22:01
charlie-tcaFont DPI needs to be a lower number. Sometimes, restarting will lower it automatically22:01
dekkardis there a way for me to invoke the xfce settings manager from another de so that i can get to it?22:01
charlie-tcaI don't know22:02
zoredacheat least from the cli, you simply do an ifconfig eth0:0 address netmask  etch22:02
dekkardlike from the cli22:02
crazygirthanks22:02
charlie-tcacrazygir: I can't remember, unfortunately22:02
crazygirzoredache: did22:02
crazygirerg..22:02
crazygircharlie-tca: zoredache did22:02
* charlie-tca sees it now. should have read first22:03
TheSheepdekkard: it's mce-show-settings or something like that22:04
TheSheepdekkard: use tab completion22:05
dekkardhmmm all i got was mcedit22:05
Raybdbombmy clock on my system gets slow 1-2 minutes a month, anyone know how to make it so this doesn't happen? my desktop time is currently about 90 seconds off of the real time22:29
TheSheep!ntp22:29
ubottuInformation about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)22:29
Raybdbombthx22:30
Moodanyone use screen on xubunutu?22:43
Moodgnu screen, i should clarify22:43
rocko!3d22:44
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d22:44
zoredacheyes, did you have a question?22:44
rocko!ati22:44
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:44
zoredache!anyone22:44
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?22:44
rockoI use gnu screen Mood22:45
rockoI have used it22:45
Raybdbombhttp://halbot.haluze.sk/images/2007-09/3597_tom2.JPG22:45
Moodhow would you use screen ssh into a remote server? would you use screen on the local machine, then ssh? or would you ssh into remote, then run screen?22:46
Raybdbombsorry wrong chan :(22:46
rockoMood what do you need ?22:46
rockoum I don't think you need to Mood22:46
rockoscreen just allows you to use more programs22:46
zoredacheMood: it depends... do you want the session to live on the local or remote system.  If you don't trust the network, then your ession should probably be remote22:47
rockoyes you would need to use screen again on the other machine when you login i think22:47
rockonot sure though22:47
Moodzoredache: that's exactly what i needed to know. but running screen on the remote server shows me an error of "cannot fine /dev/pts/1", which is the terminal display of my ssh session22:47
Moodfind*22:47
rockomaybe you should ask screen22:48
rockoor look at the manpage Mood http://www.mediacollege.com/cgi-bin/man/page.cgi?topic=screen22:48
Moodi'm thinking perhaps screen is somehow partly disabled on the remote server22:48
zoredacheperhaps... I know I have connected to my home computer right now through ssh, adn running screen, and my irc client within that22:49
Moodzoredache: so starting from an xterm, you ssh into remote server, run screen on remote, then you can detach/attach even when connection breaks?22:49
zoredacheI usually do it all in a single command   ssh enterprise" -x /usr/bin/ssh -X -t cfrancy@hostname screen -rd22:50
zoredachebleah.. that paste broke   xfce4-terminal --title="Terminal - ssh enterprise" -x /usr/bin/ssh -X -t cfrancy@hostname screen -rd22:51
zoredachethe screen -rd part tell screen on the remote side to reconnect to the existing session and detach anything else22:52
Moodzoredache: ah ok, i think i follow22:53
Moodonce it's detached, it's still in bg, right? you'd have to either kill the pid manually or from screen, right?22:56
TheSheepyes22:57
AquinaThnak you, taw and charlie-tca. I had a menu.xml backed up I was able to restore from our server. Nevertheless I don't realize why a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications isn't being updated after change as it was earlier.22:59
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AquinaMaybe I broke some functionality somewhere.23:01
charlie-tcaI don't know, either.23:01
charlie-tcaWhat about creating a new .desktop and seeing if it will use that on?23:01
charlie-tcaone?23:01
zoredacheMood: yes, when it is detached it stays around until forever23:03
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Moodwhoa. was that a net split?23:04
Moodor is it just my crappy internet connection?23:04
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charlie-tcanetsplit, I think23:04
AquinaI'll try that charlie....23:15
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degritI am trying to install xubuntu via the ubuntu netinst - do I have to check "Ubuntu Studio Desktop (must install)" on top of "Xubuntu desktop" when the relevant menu appears ?23:46

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