[16:33] <ScorpKing> hi everyone
[16:35] <ScorpKing> i need a custom picture for a usplash theme. can someone here help or maybe know where i can get help?
[16:37] <_MMA_> ScorpKing: A static pic or someone to implement a Usplash theme?
[16:37] <ScorpKing> i'll make the theme. just need the jpg
[16:38] <_MMA_> ScorpKing: Emailing the ML would be best as more people follow there.
[16:39] <ScorpKing> _MMA_: thanks
[19:34] <swalko> thorwil: hi
[19:34] <thorwil> hi swalko
[19:35] <swalko> thorwil: what are you saying about updated calc?
[19:38] <thorwil> swalko: i still think it would benefit from rounding the edges
[19:39] <swalko> thorwil: there are rounded edges
[19:39] <thorwil> swalko: on the large size, if you make the buttons a tad bigger, you might be able to get the numbers to be sharper
[19:40] <swalko> thorwil: i tried export in 1:1 size an resize with gimp
[19:40] <swalko> thorwil: there is big difference in sharpness
[19:40] <swalko> thorwil: export from inkscape is looking blurry
[19:41] <swalko> thorwil: export on 8x size and resize in gim is much sharper
[19:41] <thorwil> swalko: show me
[19:41] <swalko> thorwil: minute a do
[19:42] <thorwil> swalko: the frame around the LCD is a bit odd. is it meant to bulge outward?
[19:42] <_MMA_> swalko: In the end, we have to worry about what the Inkscape export looks like since that's how the set is generated.
[19:43] <thorwil> swalko: i would expect an opening in the case and a glass sitting below it, with a black frame printed on the glass. the lcd panel being the last layer
[19:46] <thorwil> _MMA_: i wouldn't rule out the ubuntu titling font, yet
[19:48] <_MMA_> thorwil: I'm not.
[19:50] <swalko> thorwil: http://picasaweb.google.com/milan.krivda/Breathe#5309051192187503122
[19:52] <thorwil> swalko: the differences are almost entirely on the numbers
[19:52] <swalko> thorwil: for me that numbers look completely different
[19:53] <swalko> thorwil: diferences with diference mask are clearly visible
[19:53] <_MMA_> swalko: Are the numbers fonts or paths?
[19:54] <swalko> thorwil: fonts
[19:54] <thorwil> do we have to file a feature request for oversampling on export now? :/
[19:54] <swalko> thorwil: but
[19:54] <swalko> thorwil: it is still one same export form inkscape
[19:54] <swalko> thorwil: first 1:1 second 8:8 resized in gimp
[19:54] <swalko> 8:1
[19:55] <swalko> thorwil: not opened svg in gimp
[19:55] <thorwil> too bad there's no way i can do x8 with my backgrounds :)
[19:55] <_MMA_> swalko: You got an answer for me?
[19:56] <swalko> thorwil: sry i answered your answer to thorwil
[19:56] <thorwil> _MMA_: fonts
[19:56] <swalko> _MMA_: sry i answered your answer to thorwil
[19:56] <_MMA_> swalko: I would try to fonts->paths then export to bitmap.
[19:56] <_MMA_> (from inkscape)
[19:59] <swalko> _MMA_: diferences are not only on fonts
[20:00] <swalko> _MMA_: at example border around lcd is diferenced too
[20:00] <thorwil> true. but only the differences on the numbers are really obvious
[20:00] <_MMA_> swalko: I understand. You gotta make it all work through Inkscape.
[20:01] <thorwil> swalko: anyway, _MMA_ is not going to write a script that does x8 and resize ...
[20:01] <swalko> _MMA_: yes yes , all exported in inkscape
[20:01] <_MMA_> thorwil: "resize"?
[20:02] <thorwil> _MMA_: scale down
[20:02] <swalko> thorwil: i dont understand
[20:02] <_MMA_> thorwil: What would need to be scaled down if all the SVGs should be drawn to size?
[20:03] <thorwil> swalko: i mean that i highly doubt _MMA_ will extend the script to export in x8 size to then scale down using whatever
[20:03] <_MMA_> Ahh... :P No. Things should be drawn at the intended use size.
[20:03] <thorwil> _MMA_: sheesh, pay attention ;p
[20:04] <_MMA_> thorwil: I'm slow today man. Got alot going on here.
[20:13] <swalko> thorwil: i must used translator, because english isnt my native language. Yes frame around is bulged outward
[20:15] <thorwil> swalko: i think that's a rather unusual detail and against what one expects to see there
[20:18] <swalko> thorwil: i am not so brave to say what is one expects to see there
[20:19] <swalko> thorwil: in the world exist thousands of different calculator
[20:19] <swalko> calculators
[20:19] <_MMA_> swalko: *You* are in control of that. If *you* like what you see that polish it up and call it done. :)
[20:19] <_MMA_> s/that/then
[20:20] <knome> which calc are we talking about?
[20:21] <_MMA_> knome: A calculator for the Breathe icon set.
[20:21] <swalko> thorwil: i wanted to know one thing, but you wasnt here yesterday
[20:21] <swalko> thorwil: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Discussion where may i find svg for generic/empty concepts ?
[20:22] <_MMA_> swalko: On the 1st page.
[20:22] <thorwil> swalko: i don't think there is one
[20:22] <knome> _MMA_, calculator *icon* ?:)
[20:22] <_MMA_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet
[20:22] <_MMA_> knome: yeah
[20:23] <knome> ok. where can i see curent progress? :)
[20:24] <_MMA_> swalko: And not that I mind thorwil answering questions, but since I'm the lead on Breathe you might wanna direct more questions to me. :)
[20:24] <thorwil> oh yeah
[20:24] <_MMA_> knome: The above link will lead you to all the info one would normally seek.
[20:25] <thorwil> brb
[20:25] <swalko> thorwil: ok :) you wasnt here over weekend. and i talked with thorwil about more things
[20:25] <knome> normally? ;)
[20:25] <swalko> _MMA_: ok :) you wasnt here over weekend. and i talked with thorwil about more things
[20:26] <swalko> _MMA_: we may talk now?
[20:26] <knome> _MMA_, can you say i'm normal? :P
[20:26] <_MMA_> knome: I don't know yet.
[20:26]  * _MMA_ reserves judgment.
[20:26] <_MMA_> swalko: Sure.
[20:26] <knome> :]
[20:27] <swalko> _MMA_: is needed to set standard fonts that may be used in breathe set
[20:28] <_MMA_> swalko: I'm sorry. Can you try to re-word that question? I don't quite understand.
[20:29] <_MMA_> swalko: Note that the template is also linked at the top of the "Submissions" page.
[20:30] <swalko> _MMA_: is needed to choose right fonts and publish list with these font that may be used in icons for breathe icon set
[20:31] <_MMA_> swalko: I can only guess your question. Are you asking if we need a standard font to use on all Breathe Icons?
[20:32] <swalko> _MMA_: you mean it isnt needed?
[20:33] <_MMA_> Gotta love language barriers. :)
[20:33] <_MMA_> swalko: If you follow the mailing list, yo'll see we are trying to settle on a standard font. Yes. It's needed.
[20:35] <swalko> _MMA_: i subscribed only this weekend and not followed older mails, because in mailing list are a lot of new mails
[20:36] <swalko> daily
[20:36] <_MMA_> This is a new topic started today.
[20:36] <knome> _MMA_, comic sans!
[20:36] <_MMA_> knome: And it's license is?
[20:36] <swalko> _MMA_: currently i am reading between work in inkscape, inkscape and xchat
[20:36] <swalko> L)
[20:37] <swalko> pidgin
[20:37] <knome> _MMA_, who cares, let's rip it off and use it anyway ;)
[20:37] <_MMA_> swalko: I understand. Just know that if you're going to be involved with Breathe that's where most of the daily info will be.
[20:38] <_MMA_> knome: As I don't quite know you yet, and I take this pretty seriously, I'd like us to keep it that way on this subject.
[20:39] <knome> ok. sorry. :)
[20:39] <swalko> _MMA_: how is process for adopting icons int breathe set?
[20:39] <_MMA_> knome: np ;)
[20:39] <swalko> _MMA_: artists upload icons on wiki, what will be next?
[20:39] <_MMA_> swalko: I really don't understand the question.
[20:39] <_MMA_> Oh oh.
[20:39] <swalko> :-D
[20:40] <_MMA_> I got you. Yes. Uploading to the wiki or discussing ideas on the mailing list.
[20:41] <_MMA_> After Sebastien and I are happy (and there's no major outcry from the community) it goes in BZR. (our version control system)
[20:42] <_MMA_> swalko: The images on the wiki are linked to BZR. SO as new icons are added/updated so is the wiki.
[20:42] <_MMA_> There is also a PPA that currently has 1 release in it.
[20:44] <swalko> _MMA_: you are picking/choosing icons into bzr?
[20:45] <_MMA_> Yes. I am the one handling the technical side of things in hopes it frees others up to just create. I put together icons here and there when I can.
[20:48] <swalko> _MMA_: are you using jimmacs scripts for exporting icons from svg?
[20:49] <_MMA_> Not the same ones but they are based on the same idea.
[20:51] <swalko> _MMA_: use your scripts this idea? ... use text object named context/icon-name in plate layer for icon name identification?
[20:52] <_MMA_> Yes
[20:52] <swalko> _MMA_: i am trying now to write simple step by step guide for newbies how to use one canvas workflow
[20:53] <_MMA_> swalko: Just open the template and look at the object metadata.
[20:53] <_MMA_> swalko: All of my work including the build script is on Launchpad.
[20:54] <swalko> _MMA_: now i havent much time to study how scripts work i just use that now
[20:55] <swalko> _MMA_: content in my guide depend on that fact
[20:55] <swalko> _MMA_: i may try to finish the guide now and send you over mail to review
[20:57] <_MMA_> Like you, I don't have much time to review it. All an artist/n00b mush understand is how to run the script and where to place images so Inkscape properly exports them.
[20:57] <_MMA_> s/mush/must
[20:59] <swalko> _MMA_: i fully understand, but it taked little time
[20:59] <swalko> _MMA_: thats the reason why i am writing guide
[21:07] <swalko> thorwil: ping
[21:08] <thorwil> good night!
[21:08] <knome> night