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asomethinghow would I pass --install-layout=deb in this rules file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/125541/00:57
directhexpass to what specifically?01:00
james_wasomething: does dh work for setup.py?01:01
directhexlooks like a lot of unneeded rules in there to me01:01
james_wif so it probably needs to be patched01:01
asomethingit's the rules file from deluge, which uses setup.py01:02
directhexat what point is setup.py used?01:03
directhexsorry, i don't know python at all01:03
asomethingit's called by dh build01:05
directhexokay, got it01:06
directhexdget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/w/wicd/wicd_1.5.9-3.dsc01:06
directhexthen look at its debian/rules01:06
james_wasomething: it should be added to the "setup.py install" step01:06
directhexdoes exactly what you want - dh7 with setup.py mangling01:06
asomethingthanks01:08
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leonelwhat's used for  dget in dapper ??02:17
leonelget each file then dpkg-soruce ??02:17
dtchen_no, you can still dget some.dsc02:17
dtchen_just make sure devscripts is installed, as per Debian02:18
leonelii  devscripts     2.9.10         Scripts to make the life of a Debian Package02:18
leonelleonel@dapper:~$ dget02:18
leonel-bash: dget: command not found02:18
leonelthere's this note :  NOTE: dget is not included in the devscripts package for Ubuntu dapper.02:19
leonelin https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Downloading Source Packages Using dget02:19
dtchen_you could manually backport devscripts.02:20
leoneldtchen_: thanks ..   just   wget the   orig.tar.gz  dsc and diff.gz  ..02:20
ScottKleonel: Did you see we did the Dapper clamav update today?02:21
leonelScottK great news  ..  any test or package that needs  work ??02:31
ScottKleonel: No.  It's done and in dapper-backports.  Just waiting for rdepends to finish building now.02:32
leonelgreat ..02:32
ScottKjames_w: Your most recent post on planet has me curious who the idiot was as I'm reasonably certain you aren't a crap maintainer.02:43
leonelscottK I'm working with  upstream and debian maintainers for   www.cherokee-project.org,   am I still on time to include the just released  0.99.2 version in  Jaunty ??   cherokee does not have  rdepends02:56
ScottKleonel: It needs an FFe.  Convince me.02:56
leonelok .. I'll work on convince you ..02:57
leonelscottK I can do more   clamav  work ...02:58
leonelhaha02:58
ScottKGreat.  Go start porting stuff to 0.95.  The RC is out.02:59
leonelhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~cherokee-webserver/+archive/ppa   <-- this is the  PPA  for  cherokee ..02:59
ScottKI saw that.03:00
leonelscottK Ok  the 0.95 is for jaunty right ??03:00
ScottKleonel: Assuming we get the rdpends ported, yes.03:00
ScottKThen we get to start the backports dance all over.03:00
leonelscottK ok ..03:01
ScottKleonel: The link to common-licenses for GPL should link to GPL-2 since GPL may at some point point to another version and your package is GPL v2 only.03:11
leonelscottK thanks03:32
leonelscottK so  I'll work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess    for Cherokee to see if it can be included ??03:39
ScottKYes.03:39
ScottKFor server packages like this, I have delegated authority to approve them by myself.  No 2nd approval needed.03:40
leonelScottK Great ..  so  I must to  clamav  prior  the FFe  ..  :(03:41
leoneljejeje03:41
ScottKNo.03:41
leonel s/so/to03:41
leonelso I can convice you  hehehe03:41
leonellet me get it packaged for  debian unstable  so it can be made a sync or merge ..03:43
LaibschHi, can somebody please rebuild python-4suite-xml, python-kaa-base and python-kaa-metadata against python 2.6 in Jaunty?05:45
LaibschIt is currently preventing some upgrades for me in Jaunty05:45
anakronHi all05:49
anakronhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memaker/+bug/29053105:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290531 in memaker "memaker .desktop entry is in Accessories rather than Graphics" [Low,New]05:49
anakronsomeone can accept it?05:50
Laibschdone (as far as LP is concerned)05:57
freeflyinghow to use schroot with a encrypted home partition?06:12
eMerzhIf a MOTU want to review my package that was waiting for too long in revu ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman )07:08
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Toadstoolg'morning!08:13
mok0james_w: ping08:29
billybigriggeris there a process to request an app for packaging to be included into well KK i guess since jaunty is already at alpha 5? or is left up to me to test it out and package it myself if i want it in repos?08:47
mok0!revu08:48
ubottuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU08:48
mok0billybigrigger: ^08:48
billybigriggerthanks, but i havent packaged it08:49
mok0billybigrigger: ah, well... off you go :-P08:49
billybigriggerbut what im asking is can end-users like myself package something and submit it somewhere for approval to be included?08:49
billybigriggerahh08:50
billybigriggeranswered my own question....08:50
* billybigrigger continues to read the REVU wiki08:50
mok0billybigrigger: yes, you package it and upload to REVU08:50
billybigriggeris there any packaging guidelines i must follow?08:53
mok0billybigrigger: yes, there's a guide on the wiki08:57
mok0!packaging | billybigrigger08:57
ubottubillybigrigger: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports08:57
tarzeauwill jaunty sync once more from debian sid? or09:33
tarzeauis there someone syncing single packages manually? i have a bunch that i upgraded09:33
StevenKtarzeau: We don't automatically sync, and haven't for sometime.09:34
StevenKtarzeau: If you want packages sync'd, file a sync request.09:34
tarzeauStevenK: ok09:38
directhexNCommander, ever tried getting other arches going in qemu? i'm failing to get sparc or ppc to be useful09:42
sistpoty|workhi folks09:43
james_wmok0: pong10:00
directhexjames_w, context for blog post?10:16
james_wdirecthex: debian-devel@10:17
ogradirecthex, talk to ScriptRiper in #ubuntu-arm, he works on the suse build service ....10:17
Laneytrain internet is awful10:17
ogra*Ripper10:17
Laneyps afternoon all10:18
directhexogra, i didn't think OBS did anything other than x86/amd6410:18
directhexLaney, yes, it is. relying on 3g mobile reception = suck10:18
ograthey do armel and ppc afaik10:18
ograso at least for the ppc side he should be helpful10:18
directhexLaney, also, relying on $MOBILE_NETWORK's content filtering (orange think ubuntuforums is adult-only)10:19
ogranot sure about sparc10:19
LaneyI know I wouldn't let my kids near there :(10:19
directhexLaney, they might get ideas about running arch!10:19
Laneygah10:20
* Laney tries ssh -D10:20
Laneybah10:25
directhexjames_w, any specific thread? i mainly read d-d@ to giggle at j00rg10:26
savvas"mobile-broadband-provider-info" couldn't you find a bigger name? :P10:26
james_wdirecthex: the manpages one10:27
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savvasanyone working on mobile-broadband-provider-info?10:41
savvascould use some updating, I'll check10:42
slytherinsavvas: IIRC #mbca is the channel.10:44
savvasoh thanks slytherin :)10:45
directhextseliot, any major reason why uploading nvidia-graphics-drivers-180_180.35-0ubuntu1 to my intrepid ppa wouldn't work as a short-term fix?10:45
tseliotdirecthex: no, what's the problem?10:46
tseliotit should just work10:46
directhextseliot, well, lack of support for my card in 180.11. i was just checking for hidden pitfalls10:46
directhexseems fine in a pbuilder10:46
tseliotdirecthex: yes, it should be ok10:47
directhextseliot, can i do the same thing with the latest fglrx? i've got a 4870 i'm meant to benchmark10:48
tseliotdirecthex: I wouldn't know. You should ask superm1 about it10:48
directhexah, okay. superm1, i choose you!10:48
slytherinsavvas: Further references - http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/MobileBroadband/ServiceProviders http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/MobileBroadband10:50
savvasslytherin: I found that, I'm checking  :)10:52
savvasslytherin: er.. one question, should I use tabs or spaces? Both seem to be used10:55
slytherinsavvas: I don't think it will matter. It is xml after all. I prefer spaces.10:55
savvasok10:56
stryd_onehi all10:57
stryd_onei'm following the packaging guide in a first attempt at deb packaging. It instructs me to run 'pbuilder create' but when I do, the first message from the app is "Distribution is jaunty."... but I'm running hardy, and want to build the package for hardy. Should I worry about this message and if so do you know how I can fix it?10:59
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slytherinstryd_one: Event though I don't have a link to the tutorial at hand, I am sure there is one page on wiki about pbuilderrc.11:03
savvasslytherin: there's one who used italian in the name, should I ask for the english translation?11:05
savvas+-<name>H3G (pre-paid)</name>11:05
savvas++<name>H3G (abbonamento)</name>11:05
stryd_onethanks slytherin i'm searching for it now11:05
slytherinsavvas: depends, is the service only available in italy?11:05
slytherinsavvas: if yes, the having italian name won't matter much.11:06
savvasalrighty11:06
savvasI'll check their site11:06
stryd_onegot it thanks slytherin11:07
stryd_oneis there some reason it defaults to jaunty if i don't specify?11:07
slytherinstryd_one: are you running jaunty?11:08
stryd_oneno hardy11:09
slytherinstryd_one: check your /etc/pbuilderrc and also check if you have at any point of time created ~/.pbuilderrc11:09
stryd_onethe ~/,pbuilderrc i created has one line in it: COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" as per the video11:10
slytherinstryd_one: What about DISTRIBUTION?11:10
stryd_onenothing11:10
stryd_onei'm putting that line in there now and forcing it to hardy11:11
stryd_oneit just seemed not right, that it defaulted to jaunty11:12
slytherinstryd_one: did you install debootstrap from backports repository?11:22
stryd_onepossiblly, checking....11:23
stryd_oneyep11:24
stryd_onebackports is enabled and i guess it's chosen that one automatically11:25
jcfpNeed some help: when building (in  a jaunty pbuilder) a package with debian/pyversions set to 2.5, and the program using /usr/bin/python2.5 in the shebang line, ${python:Depends} expands into "python (<< 2.6), python2.5, python-support (>= 0.7.1)" making it uninstallable in jaunty?11:30
jcfpmaking pyversions include 2.6 (e.g. by setting it to "2.5-" or similar), it changes to "python (>= 2.5), python-support (>= 0.7.1), python2.5" which is installable, but makes python-support add *.pyc for python 2.6 that are not needed.11:35
jcfpany idea?11:35
geserjcfp: perhaps doko has an idea11:37
dokojcfp, geser: not without knowing about the package12:05
jcfpdoko: want me to send you the sources?12:06
dokojcfp: no12:08
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savvaswhen a package closes multiple bugs we use LP: #nnnn,#nnnn,#nnnn,... right?12:41
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geseryes (check the .changes files to be sure, there should be a header listing all bug numbers so they get automatically closed)12:46
savvasalrighty :)12:48
savvasgeser: is python 2.5 for aptoncd necessary or not? I just made a patch for it to build for both python 2.5 and 2.6, could you take a look and comment? :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/125756/12:54
savvashttps://edge.launchpad.net/%7Emedigeek/+archive/ppa/+build/889635/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.aptoncd_0.1.98-0ubuntu5~ppajaunty7_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz12:55
savvasI was thinking maybe I could send the patch to debian12:55
savvashm.. the debian package looks pretty outdated12:57
gesersavvas: your patch looks good, can you try to move aptoncd to using python-shared or python-central? so the package doesn't contain the .py files twice?13:00
savvasgeser: I'll try :)13:00
geserand for some reason the Depends line from your build log misses the python dependency13:02
gesersavvas: thanks13:02
savvasdpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends}13:03
savvasdpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Versions}13:03
savvasthis one?13:04
geseryes13:04
savvasI think it needs dh_gencontrol -a, I could be wrong though - anyway, I'll test it :)13:04
geserI guess it's because it's no good idea to only process arch-dependent packages in build-indep (and with a arch:all package too)13:06
geserdrop the -a again from your patch13:06
savvasoki doki!13:06
savvasgeser: er.. you mean I should use binary-arch instead of binary-indep? or both?13:09
gesersavvas: any reason why you touched that part of debian/rules in your patch?13:12
savvasgeser: I added -a because it wouldn't include the 2.5 files13:13
savvasand the other dh_ commands from another package I took as a reference (still learning :) )13:14
geserit shouldn't have an influence on this and your changes to the build-indep target broke the variable subsitution13:15
savvasI see13:17
savvasthank you very much! :)13:20
eMerzhif some MOTU want to review my package.... it is waiting on the revu ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman ) ...thanks a lot13:56
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incorrectI am struggling to sign my repository14:13
Hobbseeif that's a ppa, you want #launchpad14:15
incorrecti meant that for ubuntu-server14:15
james_wthanks sistpoty|work, ScottK :-)14:27
sistpoty|workyou're welcome, james_w ;)14:33
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_rubenhmm .. the dependencies for dkms have some "odd" results14:50
_rubeninstall dkms on intrepid yields:14:51
_rubenThe following extra packages will be installed: linux-firmware linux-headers-2.6.25-2-386 linux-image linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic linux-image-generic linux-ports-headers-2.6.25-214:51
RainCTScottK: afaik Pidgin has never had notifications by default; it's an opt-in plugin14:52
ScottKRainCT: Except the option in seeded in ubuntu-desktop so Ubuntu users do get it by default.14:53
ScottKIf that's appropriate, then I don't see why pidgin users from other flavors shouldn't get the same?14:53
RainCTScottK: Ah, is that new? I'm not using Pidgin anymore (switched to empathy a few months ago), but I've never had notifications14:54
ScottKYes.  I think it's new in Jaunty.14:55
ScottKUnfortunately pidgin-libnotify is broken with libnotify1 currently, so one either has the new system or nothing, but presumably the regression will be corrected.14:56
superm1directhex, well.. sure you should be able to do it.  the latest is actually on amd's website though not in jaunty14:57
superm1directhex, grab the .run file, and run ./FILE.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/source14:57
superm1and then edit the changelog to be intrepid and push it to your ppa14:57
directhexsuperm1, oh. um... can i ask why jaunty's behind, without causing offence?14:58
superm1directhex, no point in pushing the latest one to jaunty if it doesn' work w/ xorg 1.614:59
superm1you can go and !stab AMD for that one14:59
directhexeek, it doesn't?14:59
directhexbloody amd14:59
_rubensuperm1: the dkms issue i mentioned above (pulling in "odd" kernel headers), is it a known one (must admit i havent checked lp yet)15:01
superm1_ruben, so there is no way to currently define which package you need as depends when there are virtual dependencies15:02
superm1so the way it works right now is depends: linux-headers-generic | linux-headers15:02
superm1so if you don't have linux-headers-generic, it just grabs one that would satisfy linux-headers on your architecture15:02
_rubensuperm1: it depends on "linux-image, linux-headers" actually15:04
_rubeni guess its most likely the result in an "incapable" dependency resolver and not really dkms' fault15:05
superm1_ruben, yeah exactly15:05
superm1_ruben, no one has really come up with a good solution for it as of yet unfortunately15:05
_rubensuperm1: ok .. wasnt sure if i had possibly missed something (obvious)15:07
_rubenjust gotta make sure to install the proper headers along with dkms myself :)15:07
superm1_ruben, well so for the general case (desktop users), your packages should work fine15:07
superm1it's the corner cases, and headless installs you have to worry about15:07
_rubensuperm1: i dont think general would work .. as it pulls in linux-headers-2.6.25-2-386 and not linux-headers-2.6.27-11-generic for instance15:08
directhexsuperm1, any idea why fglrx has such oddball version numbers these days? o_o15:08
superm1directhex, yeah so the version number of the web release is the external version number based on the time of release (eg 9-2)15:09
superm1when you do a --buildpkg, you get their internal build number which is more relevant15:09
directhexsuperm1, any word on whether a 1.6-capable version will actually be prepared before jaunty, or are we in for another painful switch to the free driver?15:13
superm1directhex, so the current plan as I last heard it was that if 1.6 capable version isn't ready by beta, it's painful switch in dist-upgrade15:14
directhexjoy!15:14
superm1hopefully the EXA & Xv patch for r6xx and r7xx at least gets applied then so that hardware isn't entirely crippled15:14
superm1older hardware than that at least works well with the open driver15:15
directhexi wonder if jaunty's intel driver will let me play world of goo without x segfaulting on exit15:15
bddebianHeya gang15:16
savvas<gang> heya bddebian :)15:17
bddebianHeh, hello savvas15:17
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slytherindirecthex: is it currently segfaulting?15:26
directhexslytherin, if i quit WOG, then X restarts, yes15:26
slytherindirecthex: wow. :-)15:31
slytherinI am glad I am using ATI card.15:31
directhexslytherin, i'm not. fglrx ftbfs here :/15:34
slytherindirecthex: I don't need fglrx. :-P15:36
directhexslytherin, i have a radeon 4870 i'm meant to benchmark. i doubt it even works in 2d with the free driver.15:36
slytherindirecthex: Have you tried free driver? One of my friend has same card and i remember 2d working fine on his machine on intrepid.15:37
savvasdoes this debian/rules look ok? :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/125836/15:40
directhexsuperm1, are you interested in bugfixes for fglrx packaging, or should i speak to someone else?15:41
LaibschHi, can somebody please rebuild python-4suite-xml, python-kaa-base and python-kaa-metadata against python 2.6 in Jaunty? It is currently preventing some upgrades for me in Jaunty. -> bug 33146115:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 331461 in python-defaults "python2.6 support/defaults in jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33146115:53
savvaswhat's with all the netsplits?15:56
savvaswoohoo!  Depends: python (<< 2.7), python (>= 2.5), python-central (>= 0.6.11), python2.6, libgnomevfs2-0, genisoimage | mkisofs, apt-utils, synaptic (>= 0.57.7), python-gnome2, python-apt, python-glade2, python-dbus, lsb-release, gksu, python-gtk2, gnome-icon-theme15:56
savvashm.. why python2.6 :\15:57
_rubensavvas: WALLOP Md:  sorry for the splits, one of our new servers is unstable and will be terminated16:03
savvasthanks _ruben!16:07
savvaswallops.. was that +w?16:07
jpdsYes.16:07
Q-FUNKhowdy!  can anybody help with bug #335741 ?16:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 335741 in libtorrent-rasterbar "[jaunty]python(<2.6)-based apps cannot meet dependencies" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33574116:11
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savvasScottK: is it possible to revert patches? can you remove your patch from libtorrent-rasterbar and sync with debian? they use boost1.37 in debian/control, e.g.: "libboost1.37-dev | libboost-dev (>= 1.34.1)"16:22
slytherinsavvas: no it is not possible to revert patches. you will have to wait for another debian revision to request sync16:27
savvasthanks slytherin, what should we do for libtorrent-rasterbar? attempt a merge with debian or just patch it for python 2.6?16:29
slytherinsavvas: patch it for python2.616:29
savvasalrighty I'll try16:30
savvasScottK: ignore the question before, answered :)16:30
RainCTrevert patches?16:31
savvasRainCT: nvm, it was a patch to enable boost1.35 :P16:33
savvasenable=use16:33
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LaibschRainCT: I've tried here and in other places for days now.  Can I ask you to please upload python-4suite-xml, python-kaa-base and python-kaa-metadata so they can be rebuild against python 2.6?16:55
Laibschnobody else seems game to take it up16:55
RainCTLaibsch: I can't see them in the sponsors queue16:57
Laibschdoes that have to happen first?16:58
Laibschwho should I contact about that, then?16:58
LaibschI thought you were a member of motu-sponsors?16:58
superm1directhex, i'm interested16:59
superm1what's up?16:59
RainCTLaibsch: I am. The usual procedure to get something uploaded is to attach a debdiff (or .diff.gz if it's an update) to a bug and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors to it (or ubuntu-main-sponsors for stuff in main/restricted)17:00
LaibschRainCT: I know17:00
LaibschI don't see much point in this case17:00
LaibschThere are no changes17:00
LaibschThe packages just need to be rebuilt17:01
LaibschThe debdiff would only contain the change in Changelog17:01
Laibschchangelog17:01
LaibschRainCT: makes sense?17:03
RainCTOK17:03
RainCTar.. I've just tried to upgrade but do-release-upgrade is hanging since minutes at something after "Reading state information: Done".. Any idea guys?17:05
LaibschRainCT: thanks, appreciated17:08
geserLaibsch: does python-4suite-xml build for you with python2.6? I aborted my build when the build started using 1 GB of swap (with 4 GB of RAM)17:10
Laibschgeser: to be honest, I haven't tried17:11
LaibschI just blindly assumed17:11
Laibschassumed it was a simply rebuild just like all the other packages that were preventing me upgrading17:12
RainCTLaibsch: Not all are rebuilds. Packages that aren't using plain CDBS with distutils have pretty much of a chance of needing changes17:12
* RainCT takes a shot at kaa-base17:14
Laibschthanks17:15
savvasLaibsch: if you are familiar how to use Launchpad's PPA you could try to rebuild yourself and see where's the problem :)17:16
Laibschyes, good idea.  But I'm not a compile expert.  geser, RainCT, I'll take a look at python-4suite-xml, OK?17:17
geserRainCT: kaa-base is a rebuild, just done with the test-build17:18
RainCTgeser: yep17:18
geserRainCT: do you upload or should I? don't want to make a race for it :)17:19
RainCTgeser: uhm.. doesn't ubotu have a dice function? :P17:19
RainCTgeser: go for it :)17:19
RainCTgeser: but kaa-metadate is for me ;)17:21
geserRainCT: no problem, you can have python-4suite-xml too :)17:22
RainCTnah, I don't like the name of that one *g*17:23
* savvas waits for a "please, I insist" :p17:23
savvashow do I stop pycentral from changing the application version?17:25
savvas-APP_VERSION="0.1.98-0"17:25
savvas+APP_VERSION="0.1.98-0ubuntu5~ppajaunty9"17:25
savvas..or is that normal? :P17:27
gesersavvas: still improving aptoncd? I've seen that it already uses python-central but has "nomove" set as an python-central option17:32
geserI didn't dig in the packaging if there is a reason for this17:32
savvasgeser: yes, this one proved much better: http://paste.ubuntu.com/125912/ http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23374440/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.aptoncd_0.1.98-0ubuntu5~ppajaunty9_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz17:34
savvasgeser: but I think I need dh_pycentral and dh_python afterwards, I'll try it some other day :P17:34
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savvasIt's harder without cdbs :)17:35
gesersavvas: try also out commenting out "export DH_PYCENTRAL=nomove" so the *-packages dirs get managed by python-central17:36
savvasgeser: I was afraid that the app might not work afterwards, but I'll try it, thanks :)17:36
gesersavvas: and the Depends like looks ok now too, only one minor thing: it has a dependency on python2.5, try to figure out why (probably a script using python2.5 as interpreter)17:37
savvasahhh17:37
savvasI wanted to ask you that!17:37
gesersavvas: yes, you need to check if afterwards17:37
savvasoki doki17:38
savvasgeser: that python2.5 is weird, I've tried "debuild -b" locally, and it had dependency on python2.617:40
savvas Depends: python (<< 2.7), python (>= 2.5), python-central (>= 0.6.11), python2.6, libgnomevfs2-0, genisoimage | mkisofs, apt-utils, synaptic (>= 0.57.7), python-gnome2, python-apt, python-glade2, python-dbus, lsb-release, gksu, python-gtk2, gnome-icon-theme17:40
geserI guess it depends on the order of the build first 2.5 and then 2.6 or vice versa17:41
RainCT(kaa-metadata can't be fixed until python-kaa-base has built)17:41
savvasgeser: ok, I'll look into it a bit later :)17:42
* savvas tests a libtorrent-rasterbar patch - http://paste.ubuntu.com/125917/17:48
savvascopying build/lib.linux-i686-2.6/libtorrent.so -> /tmp/buildd/libtorrent-rasterbar-0.14.1/debian/tmp/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages17:56
savvas[...]17:56
savvasdh_install: python-libtorrent missing files (usr/lib/python*/*-packages/libtorrent.so), aborting17:56
savvasah local17:56
EagleScreenI am receiving docens od mail each day, related with motu, I must be in a mailing list, I thouhgt I was in ubuntu-motu mailing list, ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com, but an admis has teold me that my address is not in the list18:08
EagleScreenmay be i am in ubuntu-universe-sponsors@lists.ubuntu.com18:12
* sistpoty|work heads home... cya18:13
RainCTEagleScreen: perhaps you have subscribed to bugmail for some package?18:19
RainCTEagleScreen: (in case what you get is bugmail, dunno what you mean by "odd mail" :))18:20
EagleScreenubuntu-motu; ubuntu-motu-mentors and ubuntu-universe-sponsors, what is the difference between these lists?18:22
Laibschpython-4suite certainly is a long build: https://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive/ppa/+build/89021218:24
directhexLaibsch, 40 mins is long?18:24
directhexLaibsch, apt-get source --build openoffice.org18:24
Laibschdirecthex: Done that in the PPA18:24
LaibschI know it takes much longer18:25
LaibschBut 40 mins is on the longer end18:25
Laibschfor something I have never heard of before and thus is likely very much a little used lib18:25
Laibschgeser was saying earlier he stopped the built half-way through because of memory issues18:26
directhextry ikvm - needs 1.1 gig of ram to build ^_^18:26
slytherindoko: do you mind if I take care of bug 330613? Seems to be a simple copy paste error.18:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 330613 in python3-defaults "python3-minimal should not have 'Essential' set to yes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33061318:27
slytherinLaibsch: openjdk build on armel was going for 5 days. :-)18:27
savvas:o18:28
DktrKranzmok0, have you some time to process 272264?18:30
DktrKranzbug 27226418:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 272264 in scilab "FeatureFreezeException: Please sync scilab-5.1 (multiverse) from PPA" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27226418:30
directhexslytherin, you mean that finished successfully?18:31
slytherindirecthex: I am assuming that it did.18:32
slytherinDktrKranz: are syncs from PPA allowed?18:32
directhexslytherin, well, if not, there's always IKVM :)18:33
slytherindirecthex: is ikvm better than openjdk on powerpc?18:33
DktrKranzslytherin, no (not the common way at least). It has to be uploaded manually or synced from Debian (if feasible)18:34
directhexslytherin, pass. i think the swing implementation is still proof-of-concept, but it's certainly built18:34
slytherindirecthex: what is the simplest procedure to use ikvm for a helloworld application?18:35
directhexslytherin, assuming you're on jaunty (as i claim no responsibility for dajobe's packaging in previous releases)?18:37
slytherindirecthex: yes, I am on jaunty18:37
directhexslytherin, well, for .class files, just use "ikvm classname" instead of "java classname"18:41
slytherindirecthex: ok, will try.18:41
directhexslytherin, as a compiler, you process a .class to produce a .exe/.dll, using "ikvmc -target:exe foo.class". you can run the .exe with mono18:43
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ScottKsavvas: As a followup ... we've been trying to sync up on boost1.35 for this release. Boost1.38 is expected in Debian shortly and is what they will aim for with Squeeze.  I think it's a good goal for Karmic to push on to 1.38, but for Jaunty we should leave stuff at 1.35.18:47
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fabrice_spHi. I'd like to sync wide-dhcpv6 20080615-5 from unstable, to fix a FTBFS, as it seems to have only fixes since 20080615-2 (the one in Jaunty). How do I confirm that? It's to know if I can avoid a FFe. Thanks19:40
fabrice_spforget what I've written before: the version in unstable also FTBFS...19:41
directhexFFE shouldn't be needed for fixes-only19:50
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Laibschalright, the python-4suite results are in: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23387460/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-amd64.python-4suite_1.0.2-7_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz  But I'm not sure how to interpret that ("150 minutes of inacticity"?)20:23
LaibschIs the call for setup.py correct?20:23
Laibschgeser, RainCT: comments?20:24
RainCTIt's missing the --install-layout=deb20:27
Laibschalright20:31
LaibschI was wondering about that20:31
LaibschI'll retry20:31
savvasW: libtorrent-rasterbar source: missing-comma-after-substvar in depends field near ${misc:Depends}20:42
savvasis this minor?20:42
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RainCTLaibsch: I don't think that not having that options is the cause for the odd error you got, though20:49
Laibschalright20:49
LaibschI'll have to leave this for now, then20:49
LaibschMaybe tomorrow20:50
* RainCT grumbles something about texlive pulling in at least 100 MB of documentation packages and about moving those to suggests :P21:18
savvaswow, texlive-latex-base-doc texlive-latex-extra-doc texlive-latex-recommended-doc texlive-pictures-doc texlive-humanities-doc texlive-fonts-recommended-doc texlive-base-bin-doc21:23
savvastry installing lyx :P21:23
RainCTyeah21:23
RainCTI'd move them to suggests and add a generic texlive-doc with them as recommends for those who want them21:23
RainCTor without generic -doc (not sure how that would work if you don't want -extra and so on)21:24
savvas136.78MB in total :p21:24
LaibschRainCT: Yes, please do21:29
LaibschThe other day I stumbled across a few unsplit Java packages: package size: 25MB, out of that 24,5MB in /usr/share/doc21:29
RainCT:/21:30
RainCTlet's file a spec: kill-the-docs XD21:30
savvasargh21:33
LaibschI have a good idea for it21:33
savvasis there a way to grab them all?21:33
Laibsch(stolen from openembedded.org)21:33
Laibschenhanve the build process so that anything in /usr/share/doc is automatically packaged as a doc file21:34
Laibschenhance21:34
RainCTo_O21:34
Laibschdoc package21:34
RainCTah21:34
Laibschsorry21:34
RainCTno, won't work21:34
LaibschMy typing is really bad21:34
Laibschwhy?21:34
LaibschIt is possible to define exceptions if necessary21:34
Laibschfor embedded devices, small packages are of course imperative21:35
RainCTbeside that copyright, changelog, etc. should really be in the main package, there are applications which depend on documentation21:35
RainCTbeing present.. I maintain some like that myself21:35
RainCTand significant amounts of docs should usually be in a -doc anyway21:36
LaibschIIRC, the build process in OE does put copyright,etc. in the right place, IOW, the main package21:36
RainCTit may be worth a thought, but it would need an archive wide transition to fix stuff that expects docs to be there..21:37
* RainCT watches do-release-upgrade uninstall his stuff without permission ¬_¬21:39
directhexaptitude purge RainCT21:40
* RainCT is purged x_O21:40
RainCTsee? mono applications are evil ^^21:41
savvasarghhhhhhhh21:41
RainCTbah now it killed my music xDDD21:41
savvasRainCT: a moment of your time? :)21:41
RainCTsavvas: nope, I can't work without music *g*21:42
* savvas whistles :p21:42
RainCTsavvas: well.. okay.. what's up?21:42
savvaslol21:42
savvasI can't manage to patch libtorrent-rasterbar properly21:42
savvascopying build/lib.linux-i686-2.6/libtorrent.so -> /tmp/buildd/libtorrent-rasterbar-0.14.1/debian/tmp/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages21:42
savvasdh_install: python-libtorrent missing files (usr/lib/python*/*-packages/libtorrent.so), aborting21:42
RainCTsavvas: and you've added the  --install-layout=deb (or whatever it is)?21:43
RainCTafter every "setup.py install"21:43
savvasI tried every way I could think of, this is the latest one: dh_install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/126024/21:43
savvasthere's no python reference in the rules :(21:43
savvaslet me check again21:44
RainCTam I still online?21:44
savvasyes you are :)21:44
RainCTnm-applet died :P21:44
savvashehe21:44
* savvas scans for setup.py21:44
RainCTsavvas: so what is it using? Makefile?21:45
savvaser... autoconf and make I think21:45
RainCTI've no idea then :(21:45
RainCTlook at what the MAkefile says21:46
savvasI have, but my knowledge is limited.. oh well. I'll send my work at bug 335741 and comment on this last one21:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 335741 in libtorrent-rasterbar "[jaunty]python(<2.6)-based apps cannot meet dependencies" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33574121:47
LaibschRainCT: Maybe you want to grab the debdiff from debian bug 513661 which I prepared and upload it to Jaunty21:48
ubottuDebian bug 513661 in libjaxme-java "libjaxme-java: Please split documentation into a doc package" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/51366121:48
savvaswoa!!!21:48
LaibschI did not consider it important enough for a separate ubuntu bug21:48
Laibschbut relied on the normal process instead21:48
Laibschthe same applies to the libjaxen-java package21:49
savvasI think I found it, thanks RainCT :)21:51
RainCTgreat :)21:53
LaibschRainCT: I got another fairly important fix, ready for upload21:53
Laibschbug 33589121:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 335891 in audacious "[jaunty] audacious crashes immediately" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33589121:54
RainCTLaibsch: subscribe me and I'll look at it tomorrow21:54
LaibschOK21:54
LaibschIt's getting late over there, hm?21:54
RainCTuhm, nice.. I like how Firefox asks to be restarted now :D21:54
RainCTmiro and python-pgsql need rebuild21:55
RainCTor patching21:55
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savvasdarn, asomething already made the merge22:31
savvasoh well, I included my modest patch :)22:31
anakronhi all22:55
anakronsomeone can look this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memaker/+bug/29053122:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 290531 in memaker "memaker .desktop entry is in Accessories rather than Graphics" [Low,Triaged]22:55
goshawkdoes cdbs applies patches when doing debuild -S -sa?23:32
goshawkyes23:34
goshawki did debuild and it patched23:34
savvasis dd_rescue actively developed?23:48
savvashm.. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=50583123:49
ubottuDebian bug 505831 in ddrescue, "ddrescue - misleading name" [Unknown,Open]23:49

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