[00:11] topyli: you here? [00:11] or Tm_T? [00:13] lair? [00:14] hehe [00:28] nikrud: well, ops don't hang out just anywhere you know. [00:29] no, only in fetid lairs, I gues [00:30] ugh. I said we would REVISIT in 2 weeks [00:30] not unban. [00:30] probably at the bottom of my priority queue for my busy day... [00:42] jdong_: what's at the top, picking your nose or eating your nails? [00:43] hm, maybe Madpilot chose the right descriptor [00:43] I wrote "poking", not "picking" [00:44] either fits with fetid lairs [00:45] LjL: a mountain of homework [00:45] jdong_: hey, DON'T put the results of your nose picking on your homework paper! [00:46] (am i starting to sound a bit like mneptok perhaps?) [00:46] you wish [00:46] (not yet) [00:46] (cool) [00:47] you need to work a bit below the waistline. [00:47] jdong_: is that a hair glued to your homework paper by means of your nose picking product? [00:48] LjL, you'd need to say things like that far, far more often to start really sounding like mneptok [00:48] LjL: it's nature's organic adhesive. [00:48] now that's more mneptokish [00:48] your remark - yes it is [00:49] * nikrud considers a new game show: mneptok this! [00:53] hmm I don't get how this "cheating" thing is supposed to work. [00:53] so I have this kid's solutions in front of me. [00:53] and just about intensely disagree with every other sentence. [00:53] * jdong_ wikipedias cheating [00:55] jdong_: rofl!! [00:56] I think it's like telephone. [00:56] or a perpetual motion device [00:56] where a small perturbance of BS self-amplifies to a genetic strain of LaTeX writeups [00:57] of course, PRETTY wrong answers are better than hastily scribbled ones [01:13] teadict called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (Shizuo) [01:14] as much of a troll as shizuo is, i disagree on that deserving an ops call [01:14] ... although the later one does [01:16] LjL, probably could have gotten him back in line by derailing the touchy conversation too [01:16] DBO: right but i had already kicked him from #ubuntu just earlier (and in a couple other occasions too), all he did in -ot was basically troll all the time, and the lesbian thing was just a tad over it [01:17] LjL, ah in that case [01:17] by the way... PM for the giggles [01:17] [02:15:12] ARE YOU A LEZBO? [02:15:17] yeah [02:15:23] Wow, nice [02:15:28] An italian men-lezbo [02:15:39] That's howt [01:17] heheh [01:17] LjL, I thought I should probably let you know [01:17] I am in a position to ramp up my opping again =) [01:18] Docky is released and public so no more long nights hacking alone =P [01:18] so i can just disappear for a couple of months again safe in the knowledge there actually are ops? [01:18] yeah =) [01:20] general observation [01:20] the #ubuntu channel is actually less rowdy as far as trolling goes than 3 years ago when it was much smaller [01:21] possibly... it's also (imho) worsened in help quality though [01:21] LjL, i wouldn't know about that to be honest [01:21] I have not had to ask for help in months [01:22] though that is probably suggestive of a more general user base [01:23] mostly i'd say that anything that can't be answered with a factoid tends to not get answered at all [01:24] which may go to prove that we have comprehensive factoids, but [01:24] hmmm [01:24] I think user based support tends to fall apart as a product matures [01:27] yeah i think possibly there should be closer contact between the regular helpers and some developers [01:29] i think that sounds reasonable [01:47] LjL, you're totally right about the help level. go to contacts would make a big difference. Hard to do without being annoying for the go to's, though [01:49] nickrud: they'd have to opt in and somehow have some assurance that they can freely ignore questions they can't be arsed with [01:49] maybe an invite only channel as the interface [01:50] nickrud, -meta was pretty much based on that concept but it just didn't catch on [01:50] and of course, us lazy helpers need to make better efforts at keeping up with changes. [01:51] nickrud: sure, it would help, though, if the ones making the changes would make some high-level documentation about them - not *user* documentation on how to practically do stuff, but *helper* documentation on how something's basic architecture is like [01:52] like, to cite an example i've already overused, i know that "some" X settings "mostly" to do with input devices have "moved" from xorg.conf to "somewhere" in the HAL config [01:52] but that's a bit vague [01:53] yep. I pretty much avoid X now, except for basics. [01:53] same here, i just won't tell someone asking about resolutions or refresh rates anything [01:53] because i know i'm not "supposed" to just tell them to stick a line in xorg.conf anymore [01:54] but what i *am* supposed to tell me beats me [01:54] !x [01:54] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [01:54] heh. res issues, if it's more than the monitor's rates not getting reported correctly I just throw up my hands. But that's also a function of things working so well [01:55] I always learned because things needed fixing or configuring. I haven't had to do any but superficial stuff for a couple years and it shows [01:56] nickrud: that's also true, but isn't that just because you've had a working Ubuntu install for a while and it just keeps working? i suspect it's not all working so smoothly for new users [01:57] LjL, yes. wireless and sound for all too many. Also things I've not had issues with since gutsy. [01:58] wireless less so, sound changes radically (it seems) nearly every release [01:58] unless you're on kde [01:58] ewll, unless you're on kde 3.5 [01:58] i think i mean - unless you've stuck to hardy for too long [01:59] which reminds me, time to try a jaunty install on a spare partition. Down to less than 2 months [01:59] there's a few things i should try out but haven't the disk space to... [02:00] jaunty is one, but kde 4.2 as well [02:00] and, erm, windows 7 [02:00] (and for that matter, i've never touched vista either, although i'm not sure i'm losing much) [02:01] should try both. probably will windows 7 not sure about kde. It's always seemed 'wrong' somehow. probably a personal failing [02:02] more cancer causing eye candy [02:02] windoze isnt' getting 'better', y'all [02:02] !best | nalioth [02:02] nalioth: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. [02:02] nalioth: at least it isn't getting worse - like kde [02:02] nalioth: I'm heading your direction this evening. [02:02] wait... it is [02:02] (sort of) [02:03] tritium: Roswell? [02:03] at least in windows they've added some eye candy and mostly retained what was there [02:03] in kde 4, they've added eye candy and removed everything else [02:04] 1.4 -> 2.0 gnome was the same, don't hold that against them. It may be a good move in the long run. [02:04] * nalioth uses enlightenment 17 and wishes he could figure out frame buffer graphics . . [02:04] ummm, sliding desktops ..... [02:04] That is something I really miss from my first ever linux desktop [02:05] nickrud: did also the gnome 2.0 featured changelogs have things like "entirely new cube effect in kwin" and "plasma widgets can finally be rotated"? [02:05] With the impending devaluation of the dollar, I'm switchign to all-terminal, so I can run on old hardware and not buy a new one for decades. ;) [02:05] nickrud: sliding desktops? [02:05] LjL, e17 [02:05] sounds amiga-ish [02:06] switching, even [02:06] e17 is wonderful [02:06] think of them as vertically stacked, you can slide them aside fully or partially to expose lower desktops [02:06] nickrud: then exactly like the amiga [02:06] nickrud: (except on the amiga they could each have a different resolution and color depth) [02:07] I missed the amiga bandwagon, more business oriented at the time. [02:08] nickrud: they're called "screens" in amigaos, a screen has a titlebar with a "depth" gadget on the right which you can click to bring the next screen to the foreground, and if you drag and drop on the title bar, you move the screen vertically (and horizontally, if its virtual size is larger than the actual display size) [02:09] nickrud: the underlaying screen, however, can be an entirely different resolution than the one you're dragging. only thing is this probably wouldn't be possibly on today's monitors (especially LCD ones) - and even less so on today's graphics cards [02:09] LjL: your middle shrunk back to just one "j". Jenny Craig? Hacker's diet? South Beach? [02:09] purpose build gpu's huh? [02:10] nickrud: eh, no one called it a "GPU" back then... but of course, they had their own custom chipset - that's what it was called [02:10] tritium: i'm on my deeesktop now. [02:11] nickrud: basically, there was a chip that could be programmed to automatically do stuff (without involving the CPU) when the raster reached a certain line - stuff such as change the registers that contained resolution and depth [02:12] nickrud: the system used that to implement sliding screens, but also games and programs used it for all sorts of reasons - mostly to get more colors on the screen, at the end of the day [02:12] heh. scary for the crt :) [02:12] nickrud: maybe for today's crts it would be, but the ones that were used those days couldn't really care less [02:13] nickrud: at least, the TV that i used as a monitor didn't ;) [02:15] crappy tolerances, flexible display I guess [02:16] * nickrud makes a note that LjL does love his amigas [02:16] ;) [02:17] nickrud: of course i do. i'd still be using it if, uhm, it had memory protection, were open source, and had any decent programs left. [02:17] nickrud: it's not asking for too much is it [02:17] nah, sounds like a project :) [02:18] nickrud: the project is there already, it's called AROS, but they don't want to get memory protection stuck in - i tried, but i gave up because i can only use gdb so long as i don't get a messed up stack frame [02:18] nickrud: and as for the programs, well, i'm not the one to write word processors or web browsers i'm afraid [02:18] why no memory protection, it's almost a requirement for multitasking [02:19] *safe multitasking [02:19] nickrud: because it's an ages-old amiga meme that "proper memory protection just can't be added without breaking everything" [02:20] nickrud: which is possibly even true, but how much of "everything" is there? there's hardly any useful programs left, and the ones there are aren't open source so won't run on x86, and the OS was rewritten from scratch [02:20] I could be convinced that's true. I did once read a book about amiga os ;) and what I took away was everything was linked lists. Might be hard to tack protection into that [02:20] nickrud: it's hard alright, a good few parts of the system assume programs can just write stuff into the system's list [02:21] hah. Well, thats a wonderful thing there [02:21] nickrud: but not so much that you can't change it... the developers weren't entirely crazy after all, there even is a MEMF_PUBLIC flag for AllocMem() that's intended to declare a region of memory as public. it never *did* anything, but the docs do say it's important to use it properly for "future memory protection" [02:22] nickrud: which, of course, means that *no* application developer ever used it properly. but so what, applications have to be ported anyway [02:22] nickrud: if on the other hand you were asking why there was no memory protection in the first place... well, MMUs cost [02:23] yeah, the [02:23] $1000 amiga idea (although the good ones always cost more iirc) [02:24] they did [02:24] nickrud: there's also speed concerns. memory protection *does* slow things down. it's worth it, but it was arguably not worth it on a 7MHz 68000 [02:24] you gotta remember that in the 80's & early 90's I lived in Seattle. Wintel was god there and then [02:24] nickrud: consider that not only do you need to shuffle MMU tables around, but you also have to put safety checks in every system function for memory protection to make sense at all [02:25] s/safety checks/sanity checks/ [02:25] 7 mhz. God, I'd forgotten how slow stuff was then. Even C programs had hand crafted assembler for recurrent loops [02:26] nickrud: for that matter AmigaOS (AmigaDOS, specifically) has bits of BCPL code in it... [02:27] nickrud: now it doesn't, and AROS doesn't, but it still needs to support BCPL-style pointers for API compatibility. a BCPL pointer being a pointer somehow crammed into one byte, basically [02:27] has to have an offset somewhere, or you're pretty limited [02:28] had to do a quick google for bcpl so I really have no clue about it [02:28] nickrud: yeah i don't remember just how they work exactly, and i don't honestly even care - i'd rather pretend they don't exist [02:29] nickrud: well, in a nutshell, there was BCPL, B was a simpler version of it, and then they made C [02:29] one byte pointers remind me of 6502, the only one I actually got good at machine code. I remember when we first got MACROS for it :) [02:31] nickrud: i've had a C64 but never messed with assembly, was too young to even really know what it was... more recently i played with Z80 assembly for fun. i have betrayed the 6502 by doing that, i guess... but it deserves it. what an ugly instruction set. [02:31] you're telling me? [02:31] hahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha [02:32] just sayin' [02:32] the Z80 makes sense. [02:32] not that i actually programmed in its assembly... i just attempted to write an OS in C, obviously had to put some bits and pieces of assembly in it [02:33] but in the process i did stumble upon the 6502 counterpart, and it's just... on a different level [02:34] yeah, I know. When I got a c compiler (actually an interpreter, but that's another story) i was able to get away from assembler for all but really time critical stuff. But soon after I moved to 8086 and 68000 based systems and used C exclusively (except for a proprietary machine control language written in C) [02:35] But that was 20 years ago. things have changed radically and I don't think for the worse overall [02:36] nickrud: i'm not sure, i can't honestly say they've changed for the better from a *user's* point of view. for the developer, maybe. [02:37] nickrud: but then again somehow i feel more at home trying to write an OS for the Z80, where i know i *can* know what every single instruction is doing, then learning some complicated and extravagant APIs, such as GUI APIs for instance [02:37] hah. ah, gui api's and my abandonment of paid programming are intimately related :) [02:38] nickrud: i've never been paid to program to begin with, but anyway i seem have my doors irrevocably shut on learning those things. which is kind of limiting, sometimes i'd like to, you know, get some stuff shown on the screen as opposed to saved into a text file... [02:39] at least i could do that on AmigaBASIC without learning, oh, how to create an application instance, a top-level window instance, a drawable instance... [02:39] there's always visual basic for you :) [02:39] an event driver, an object-oriented communication interface, a GUI toolkit instantiation... [02:40] nickrud: yeah - and i've used it, and contrary to most, i've no shame in admitting it [02:40] ... but then VB is braindead in a number of other ways [02:40] there is none. sooner or later there'll be one for gnome or kde; I'm sure there are kids working on them for fun right now and one will probably mature [02:41] nickrud: there's one for kde [02:41] !info gambas [02:41] Package gambas does not exist in intrepid [02:41] or perhaps there isn't [02:41] I've read about gambas, but nothing saying it's more than a nice toy for most purposes [02:41] !info gambas2 [02:41] gambas2 (source: gambas2): Complete visual development environment for Gambas. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7-1 (intrepid), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB [02:41] nickrud: so is VB...? [02:41] yep [02:42] they need to change the name, kambas or some such. they're in the wrong namespace [02:43] nickrud: still, say for instance - some time ago i wanted to have some fun with genetic programming, and have colored pixels somewhat akin to bacteria moving on the screen. now, where did i give up? of course at the having pixels move on the screen in X part. [02:44] and on the other hand, stuff like VB doesn't help with that, either, because it's a clumsy interpreter for a clumsy language where i could never do any genetic programming interpreter [02:44] but hell, all i was asking for was to have a window to draw single pixels on! [02:44] is visual c any better now? I used it a bit, or it's predecessor, version 1.0 for a bit. [02:44] no idea [02:45] windriver? I vaguely remember that as my primary compiler back then [02:45] i only used VB as far as microsoft stuff goes [02:45] when i started using C, i did that on linux [02:45] heh. It's still around [02:46] specialized though, embedded chips it looks like [02:47] dinnertime, catch up with you later LjL [05:02] @login [05:02] The operation succeeded. [05:26] good mornin [05:26] hi Myrtti ! [05:27] a windows server in wine? that is odd [05:28] oh its daft_punk [06:08] cactusfrog: troll or... horribly bad at spelling [06:12] oh my gawd [06:23] cactufrog = annoying, doesn't listen, but not calculating therefore <> troll [06:25] tritium, you about? I have an epic troll for you [06:25] political, hence not appropriate here [06:39] ubottu: tell ivanoats|away about away [06:53] @bansearch probot [06:53] No matches found for probot!n=probot@d116133.adsl.hansenet.de in any channel [06:56] lmao - my laptops being delivered by armoured guards? [06:57] Mez: that's because they are going to do a search on you first before giving it to you [06:57] Mez: Obviously its already got all of your sensitive information on it. [06:57] it's just a front so they can get you in their clutches [06:57] "color of briefs: purple" [06:57] I'm not going to be taking delivery of it [06:57] Myrtti: :P [06:57] it's actually grey today :D [06:58] * Myrtti sods off to make a reservation to the laundrette [06:58] ew, wash them!! /me does mnemtok [06:58] * Mez wont be here to take delivery, but it says on tracking "passed to securicor" [06:58] nickrud: fresh out the dryer :D these ones are meant to be grey [06:59] reservation of laundrette. I read that in a Mankell novel, and still find it amazing [07:10] nickrud: what's so amazing? [07:11] that reservations are necessary or available; I'm assuming an apartment building? There's no way you could enforce a reservation system here [07:11] yeah, apartment building laundrette, shared by two buildings [07:12] they've started to charge the other building people for drying their clothes, one euro for one hour [07:13] doing my laundry at the laundrette is so much easier and faster than if I had my own washing machine [07:13] that's how it's done here, both wash and dry. roughly the same cost. [07:14] oh, I miss my washer/dryer combo. Toss the laundry in the washer before heading off to work, toss it in the dryer when I get home. [07:14] we have only the drying room [07:14] actually, two of them [07:18] jussi01: yes? [07:42] *sigh* [07:54] coffee with "energy drink" [07:55] and double dose of meds [09:40] I'm getting done with DaemonFC soon [09:40] just so you know [09:43] in u ? [09:43] hi Seper how can we help you? [09:43] I've just forwarded him here [09:43] * jussi01 prods ikonia [09:44] just to make it clear that #ubuntu is not discriminating against langauges, there are seperate lanaguage channels, hence ubuntu are not language naztis [09:44] and the phrase natzi - is not really called for or welcome in ubuntu channels [09:44] Seper: does that make sense to you ? [09:45] yes [09:45] ok, so I'll remove the ban, but please just think about what you say in ubuntu channels [09:46] Seper: the ban has been removed, as has the mute, you're welcome to leave this channel and re-join #ubuntu [09:46] ok [09:46] have a nice day and thanks for flying with Ubuntu [09:47] thanks [09:50] !idle | Seper [09:50] Seper: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [09:53] ok folks [09:53] I'm really getting fed up with DaemonFC [09:53] topyli [09:56] Myrtti, i was fed up with him 5 minutes after he first joined the channel [09:56] I'm not taking his crap for much longer so I'm going to kick him to kingdom come the next chance I get [09:57] i'm also waiting for him to say something smart again [10:35] rww in #ubuntu told me to tell you that i came up with a short-term bad idea of putting #ubuntu-offtopic in the topic of #ubuntu, so people like me don't go mouthing off about nothing in there [10:38] * Myrtti blinks [10:41] ish2: so few people read the topic I don't think it would make a difference to the ammount of moderation needed [10:41] you've got me there [10:42] but then at least you could point to it all the time, keep off the grass means little to me when it's not posted [10:43] ish2: most people respect being told about the offtopic channel [10:43] ish2: refering to the topic or telling people the about it is the same ammount of effort [10:46] i can spam the message every 2 minutes for a low low fee of $.02 cents an hour! [10:46] ok, well thanks for the suggestion [10:46] you can't afford not to? [10:46] ish2: anything else you need help with ? [10:46] no, i'll be on my way, thx [10:46] thanks for the feedback [10:48] was that random, or do I just imagine it? [10:49] just trying to be helpful I guess [10:50] the number of folks who dont know where to download ubuntu is surprising [10:50] and that is in the topic iirc [11:07] who actually reads the topic anyway? [11:07] * Myrtti smacks jussi01 [11:07] hehe [11:07] infidel [11:07] /slap Myrtti [11:08] psufan of 'I want to install ubuntu on my bmw through midi port' was at it in another linux channel [11:09] hrm, this is weird... my irc works fine, but web adresses keep getting page load errors... [11:09] jussi01: dns problems then [11:09] ahh [11:09] jussi01: proxu is dead [11:09] proxy [11:10] Ill have to ask ikonia about it [11:10] I always restart my router in those cases [11:10] jussi01: make sure proxy is disabled [11:10] ikonia: not using the proxy [11:10] ikonia: Im in the uk... no need :D [11:11] if webpages don't work but irc does, it's usually a sign of dns problems, ie. connections that are already established remain as their domain names are already resolved, but new ones fail as name resolution has crapped out [11:11] happened at COSS all the time, but the infrastructure used Cisco, so what can you expect. [11:12] for it to work? BWHAHAHAHA [11:12] sorry. [11:22] is sarcasm really evil? [11:22] if so, i'm going to the deepest level of hell. [11:24] * rww 05:48:45> makes pizza from scratch, is a pizza elitist <-- w00t! someone found a way to avoid the 'Soup N***' reference all by himself! [12:39] Tm_T: when are you due south the next time? [12:40] oh dear... [12:40] lovely guy asking why his ddos attack failed... [12:40] where?! [12:40] #k [12:41] oh boy [12:45] interesitng, if I'm cloaked and I do a /who on my ip it doesn't show me on line [12:45] I thought a cloak hid your IP but did not prevent queries on it [12:46] * jussi01 gently nudges ikonia [12:53] bazhang: I have him in pm, and hes making no sense. [12:54] Pici, I re-directed him but actionparsnip wanted to help him [12:54] little does he know of the sometimes errant nature of the -ru participants [12:56] lovely [12:56] I got sick of it... [12:56] and he's back [12:56] Maybe he can behave this time [12:57] lets see [12:57] I bet no [13:04] I wish ActionParsnip would snip his eagerness to help and withdraw from action when there's a suspicion about foul play [13:04] con wifi? [13:04] that sounds fishy tbh [13:04] one example yes [13:04] * Pici agrees [13:06] I've got a nasty answer to this: [13:06] [15:06] < Riya> actionParisnip I did that all but i can't browse net i am geting server not fount msg . wat i do / [13:07] o/ [13:07] "tough shit, kid. How about you find some other way to connect to the internet instead of trying to crack the staff wifi" [13:07] "oops" [13:08] if he's connected to the internet right now, then why would he need to connect specifically to the staff wifi... [13:10] I'm an AWFUL PERSON [13:11] speaking of which [13:11] Tm_T: when you're coming south or when I'm coming over to see you, I'm going to give Ronja my polar bear plushies. [13:12] is amigimaia wildly offtopic, or am I just having a bad day [13:13] bazhang: he's not wildly offtopic, but a bit off the track [13:13] or c) both :) [13:14] what is aircrack ? [13:14] :/ [13:19] riya's english is so broken it's just awful [13:21] .wein 686 [13:22] a perfect example how people whose native language isn't English shouldn't even try with "U" "r" "l8r" and so on [13:22] Dave2: DOUBLE FAIL [13:22] Myrtti: always :( [13:22] (though double?) [13:22] oh, the . and e [13:22] I do appear t ofail \o/ [13:23] ... *gives up, wants sleep* [13:23] Epic fail! [13:23] c-c-c-combo breaker! === stdin is now known as tsimpson [13:35] * Myrtti hides from IceStar, goes to the damn laundrette [13:35] :D [13:51] Myrtti: oooh, great (: [14:07] Myrtti: I have tried to send some pics for you now 3 times already, maybe I manage to do that now finally :p [14:37] Tm_T: that means atleast three brand spanking ones and one that needs washing (I'll wash it before giving it to you, if you want it, that is) [14:37] I think I'll keep one, the one with the snoring mechanism [14:44] Myrtti: ofcourse want! [14:46] I just put the dried Valentine's day bouquet on my bookshelf and started to think that the plushies have no emotional meaning to me anymore, so I'd better give them to better use [14:46] to me? [14:46] * Tm_T hides [14:47] to you or to Ronja :-) [14:48] both that is then [14:48] * Tm_T is constantly running out of cpu time, ram and disk space [14:50] now this is _cool_ http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9011409662.html [14:50] I want one!! [14:51] oh, crap, not -ot... meh [14:51] :-P [14:55] why that weak cpu [14:55] and no RAM mentioned [14:56] but otherwise looks really giid [14:56] Tm_T: its an arm... [15:20] jussi01: I know [15:21] @bansearch denstark [15:21] No matches found for denstark!*@* in any channel [15:22] @bansearch Gary [15:22] No matches found for Gary!i=gary@freenode/staff/colchester-lug.gary in any channel [15:22] unbeleivable... [15:22] that is [15:22] jussi01: c'mon, perk up man [15:22] @bansearch GazzaK [15:24] i before e, except after c... grrr [15:24] stjuupid bot, can't find any bans for GazzaK [15:25] they were all oldish ones [15:25] were they not all before this trackers time? [15:25] there were a lot too [15:25] probably [15:26] jussi01: btw that particular OMAP3 cpu+stuff is low-end version (: [15:26] Gary: you scare me: [17:22:28] damn I needs sweeties [15:26] * Myrtti shoves Garys mouth full of Rock [15:26] jussi01: I'm bored at work, need them for me, not for anything else :p [15:27] better then stinky socks [15:27] * jussi01 is feeling particularly weird today... [15:27] I feel like that all the time :p [15:27] Gary: which part of the country are you located? [15:27] * jussi01 is currently in warrington... [15:27] either Colchester (Essex) or Nottingham (midlands) [15:28] 13d, 8h, 22m!d [15:28] WHEEE [15:35] ikonia: can you talk here atm? [15:40] whee [15:40] is it splitland today? [15:41] it's not nice when i'm playing globulation! the scrolling slows it down, and the konv OSD gets in my way :( [15:42] flannel, is that guy accusing you of trying to break his machine? ;) [15:42] nickrud: Its what I do best. [15:43] oh not again [15:44] what's this bartol server that's splitting [15:44] the name alone sounds dodgy [15:47] *splat* [16:09] In #ubuntu-irc, nealmcb said: ubottu: Screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also good for use over ssh. See https://launchpad.net/screen-profiles for status bars, clocks, notifiers (reboot-required, updates-available), etc. [16:16] After discussion in the ubuntu-server meeting we decided that given the screen-profiles package (for jaunty and as a manual .deb for hardy etc), it would be good to update the factoid for screen to "Screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also good for use over ssh. See https://launchpad.net/screen-profiles for status bars, clocks, notifiers (reboot-required, updates-available), etc." [16:16]