| ara | morning all :) | 06:52 |
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| eeejay | hey ara | 08:00 |
| ara | eeejay: hey hey | 08:01 |
| eeejay | ara, so i am writing tests for notify-ubuntu using the framework | 08:02 |
| ara | eeejay: cool | 08:02 |
| eeejay | ara: and I am having dificulty understanding the proper way to make a test fail (when assertion fails), and when to make the test report an error (when automation fails) | 08:03 |
| eeejay | ara: did that make sense? | 08:04 |
| ara | eeejay: yes, that makes sense :) | 08:04 |
| ara | eeejay: the problem is that, for ldtp, everything is an error | 08:04 |
| ara | eeejay: but there's a way | 08:04 |
| ara | eeejay: if you find a fail, you can log that as a failure like this: "log("blah blah blah, "failure") | 08:05 |
| eeejay | ara: + i think in both cases a screenshot is useful, because it may be an appearance bug, so i think the xslt might need some tweaking | 08:05 |
| ara | eeejay: and then, modify the report.xsl to add that as a different situation | 08:05 |
| ara | eeejay: feel free to add your modifications and propose a merge | 08:05 |
| eeejay | ara: hm, if for example the gedit test fails, it still shows up as "success" in the html | 08:06 |
| ara | eeejay: no, it doesn't | 08:06 |
| ara | it is log as "error" | 08:06 |
| eeejay | ara: ok, i will make another branch for those kinds of stuff | 08:06 |
| eeejay | ara: but it still has <success>1</success> | 08:07 |
| eeejay | ara: even if there is an error tag before | 08:07 |
| eeejay | actually, i will have to check again | 08:07 |
| * ara takes a break | 08:11 | |
| eeejay | ara: if you change one of the oracle files in the gedit test, and run the test, the html output will show "passed" <- I just rechecked | 08:25 |
| ara | eeejay: ok, thanks for the report, I will have a look into it | 08:53 |
| ara | eeejay: I have filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop-testing/+bug/337121 | 09:10 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 337121 in ubuntu-desktop-testing "Gedit tests show success, even if the oracle file is different" [High,New] | 09:11 |
| ara | eeejay: in case you want to subscribe | 09:11 |
| eeejay | ara: thanks | 09:11 |
| eeejay | ara: the only way i got a test to "fail" is by raising LdtpExecutionError | 09:15 |
| eeejay | ara: but i would expect that to be reserved for automation failures, not for tests that don't pass | 09:15 |
| eeejay | i'll write that in the bug.. | 09:28 |
| davmor2 | ara: I want to write a case for smoketesting I'm just wondering where the best place to put it is? | 11:10 |
| ara | davmor2: mmm, let me see | 11:17 |
| davmor2 | ara: only reason I'm asking is the rest of the smoketesting is being left on the old wiki | 11:17 |
| ara | davmor2: can you point me to an old testcases wiki example for smoke testing, please? | 11:18 |
| davmor2 | ara: I don't think there is one which is why I thought it might be worth writing :) goes off to check | 11:19 |
| ara | davmor2: I said in the OLD wiki :) | 11:22 |
| davmor2 | ara: I still don't think there is one. I knew what I had to do and the only page is a table of what, when and which bugs | 11:23 |
| ara | davmor2: then, on the new wiki, maybe under "TestPlans" ? | 11:25 |
| davmor2 | ara: Okay cool :) | 11:25 |
| davmor2 | ara: does that make sense http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Plans/SmokeTesting ? | 11:59 |
| ara | davmor2: yes, it looks nice. Maybe you could add the table of results | 12:02 |
| ara | under SmokeTesting/Results or something like that | 12:02 |
| davmor2 | Yeah good point | 12:04 |
| davmor2 | ara: Done http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Plans/SmokeTesting/Results and I linked it from the other page too :) | 12:19 |
| ara | davmor2: \o/ | 12:20 |
| davmor2 | Yay ready for Monday :) | 12:20 |
| ara | davmor2: yes, remember to create https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UbuntuTestingDay/20090309 | 12:21 |
| ara | davmor2: and announce it :) | 12:21 |
| ara | davmor2: rock on! | 12:21 |
| davmor2 | No probs | 12:21 |
| * davmor2 Lunch | 13:24 | |
| cgregan | ara, cr3, bdmurray, ogasawara, sbeattie: I would like to introduce jcollado | 15:00 |
| cgregan | he is working on automation for my group | 15:00 |
| cgregan | he is focusing on Checkbox and LDTP. | 15:01 |
| ara | cgregan: he does not seem to be in the channel :) | 15:01 |
| cgregan | ara: hehe.....I guess I beat him here | 15:01 |
| cr3 | ara: he's setting the stage for his grand appearance | 15:01 |
| cgregan | ara, cr3, bdmurray, ogasawara, sbeattie: I would like to introduce jcollado | 15:03 |
| ara | jcollado: welcome! | 15:03 |
| jcollado | Hello | 15:04 |
| cgregan | He is an automation engineer for oem and will probably have some questions about LDTP and Checkbox so I figured I would introduce him to you all | 15:04 |
| cr3 | jcollado: if you have any trouble with checkbox, please don't hesitate to blame me or laugh at me :) | 15:05 |
| cgregan | jcollado will be joining me in Oxford if you are going to be there | 15:06 |
| davmor2 | jcollado: Don't forget to point when you laugh at cr3 so we know who you're laughing at :P | 15:07 |
| cr3 | cgregan: sorry dude, when I heard you and him would be there, I wimped out | 15:07 |
| cgregan | cr3: hehe......we are very frightening here in oem | 15:09 |
| ogasawara | jcollado: welcome! | 15:10 |
| jcollado | Thank you. | 15:10 |
| cr3 | cgregan: haven't you met the folks in montreal? I think we're close competition in terms of scariness | 15:10 |
| cgregan | cr3: I have met a few....and you are right! :-) | 15:11 |
| cgregan | cr3: I think scariness is proportional to the number of month of winter you are subjected to! | 15:12 |
| davmor2 | cgregan: you're talking to one of the only guys further north than you right ;) | 15:18 |
| cgregan | yes...cr3 is way north of me | 15:18 |
| cr3 | cgregan: so, relatively speaking, I'm "way" scarier than you too | 15:30 |
| cgregan | cr3: hehe.....frightening! ;-) | 15:31 |
| davmor2 | cr3: I don't know it's late autumn/ early winter in England all year round :D | 15:32 |
| cr3 | davmor2: good point, maybe temperature is a factor too | 15:32 |
| cr3 | davmor2: who is their right mind would settle in a place that gets to -30C in winter! | 15:33 |
| davmor2 | cr3: stgraber, you and eskimo's | 15:33 |
| cr3 | stgraber: I hope the winter hasn't been too rough on you :) | 15:34 |
| cr3 | davmor2: now that you mention it, we don't have enough eskimo's in the channel | 15:35 |
| * davmor2 away | 15:40 | |
| stgraber | cr3: nah, remember I come from Switzerland :) | 15:50 |
| gaelfx | when I run update manager, my system overheats before it can finish downloading the update lists, when I check system monitor, it say the CPU usage is 70%+, though nothing in the processes list seems to be taking up any CPU except for system monitor itself, is this a known issue? | 15:52 |
| gaelfx | when I run update manager, my system overheats before it can finish downloading the update lists, when I check system monitor, it say the CPU usage is 70%+, though nothing in the processes list seems to be taking up any CPU except for system monitor itself, is this a known issue? | 16:14 |
| charlie-tca | gaelfx: if the system is overheating, that sounds like it might be hardware related | 16:18 |
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| davmor2 | cgregan: I'm just trying out those two bugs that Chris left comments on | 16:23 |
| cgregan | davmor2: ok | 16:23 |
| cgregan | davmor2: was his comment for more data on the issue? | 16:23 |
| stgraber | davmor2: hey, did you do some tests on LTSP ? I did an install of alpha-5 and it seemed to work fine here. | 16:23 |
| davmor2 | stgraber: no I was having races issue with the partitioner it was all I could do to get one install up and running I will be testing it tomorrow though if that helps :) | 16:24 |
| davmor2 | cgregan: Yes basically | 16:25 |
| stgraber | davmor2: it always helps | 16:25 |
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| gaelfx | charlie-tca: yeah, probably, and I know this sounds stupid, but any idea how I can figure out what's eating my processor? | 16:27 |
| charlie-tca | Not stupid, no question that you don't know the answer to is silly. I don't know how to figure it out, | 16:29 |
| charlie-tca | but I would suspect the updates that are being applied | 16:29 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe top would tell you | 16:29 |
| gaelfx | what is top? and yeah, I'm using apt-get for updates, seems to be faring better than update manager | 16:30 |
| charlie-tca | top is an application that shows what is running, cpu%, mem%, and a bunch of other things | 16:31 |
| gaelfx | does it show CPU temp? | 16:32 |
| charlie-tca | no | 16:32 |
| charlie-tca | Not sure what will, either | 16:33 |
| charlie-tca | I never got anything to show it for me | 16:33 |
| davmor2 | lm_sensors should show temp | 16:50 |
| davmor2 | meh he left the room :( | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca | maybe overheated again? | 16:51 |
| davmor2 | If his cpu is over heating it's more likely that his chip fan is is blocked or on the blink than anything else | 16:53 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: you're states bound right? | 16:53 |
| charlie-tca | I'm in Idaho, yes | 16:53 |
| davmor2 | if he comes back on after I've gone ask him to check the temperature while running the live cd if it isn't colder then it's more likely his system. | 16:56 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 16:56 |
| davmor2 | ta :) | 16:56 |
| charlie-tca | no, thank you | 16:56 |
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