[06:52] morning all :) [08:00] hey ara [08:01] eeejay: hey hey [08:02] ara, so i am writing tests for notify-ubuntu using the framework [08:02] eeejay: cool [08:03] ara: and I am having dificulty understanding the proper way to make a test fail (when assertion fails), and when to make the test report an error (when automation fails) [08:04] ara: did that make sense? [08:04] eeejay: yes, that makes sense :) [08:04] eeejay: the problem is that, for ldtp, everything is an error [08:04] eeejay: but there's a way [08:05] eeejay: if you find a fail, you can log that as a failure like this: "log("blah blah blah, "failure") [08:05] ara: + i think in both cases a screenshot is useful, because it may be an appearance bug, so i think the xslt might need some tweaking [08:05] eeejay: and then, modify the report.xsl to add that as a different situation [08:05] eeejay: feel free to add your modifications and propose a merge [08:06] ara: hm, if for example the gedit test fails, it still shows up as "success" in the html [08:06] eeejay: no, it doesn't [08:06] it is log as "error" [08:06] ara: ok, i will make another branch for those kinds of stuff [08:07] ara: but it still has 1 [08:07] ara: even if there is an error tag before [08:07] actually, i will have to check again [08:11] * ara takes a break [08:25] ara: if you change one of the oracle files in the gedit test, and run the test, the html output will show "passed" <- I just rechecked [08:53] eeejay: ok, thanks for the report, I will have a look into it [09:10] eeejay: I have filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop-testing/+bug/337121 [09:11] Launchpad bug 337121 in ubuntu-desktop-testing "Gedit tests show success, even if the oracle file is different" [High,New] [09:11] eeejay: in case you want to subscribe [09:11] ara: thanks [09:15] ara: the only way i got a test to "fail" is by raising LdtpExecutionError [09:15] ara: but i would expect that to be reserved for automation failures, not for tests that don't pass [09:28] i'll write that in the bug.. [11:10] ara: I want to write a case for smoketesting I'm just wondering where the best place to put it is? [11:17] davmor2: mmm, let me see [11:17] ara: only reason I'm asking is the rest of the smoketesting is being left on the old wiki [11:18] davmor2: can you point me to an old testcases wiki example for smoke testing, please? [11:19] ara: I don't think there is one which is why I thought it might be worth writing :) goes off to check [11:22] davmor2: I said in the OLD wiki :) [11:23] ara: I still don't think there is one. I knew what I had to do and the only page is a table of what, when and which bugs [11:25] davmor2: then, on the new wiki, maybe under "TestPlans" ? [11:25] ara: Okay cool :) [11:59] ara: does that make sense http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Plans/SmokeTesting ? [12:02] davmor2: yes, it looks nice. Maybe you could add the table of results [12:02] under SmokeTesting/Results or something like that [12:04] Yeah good point [12:19] ara: Done http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Plans/SmokeTesting/Results and I linked it from the other page too :) [12:20] davmor2: \o/ [12:20] Yay ready for Monday :) [12:21] davmor2: yes, remember to create https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UbuntuTestingDay/20090309 [12:21] davmor2: and announce it :) [12:21] davmor2: rock on! [12:21] No probs [13:24] * davmor2 Lunch [15:00] ara, cr3, bdmurray, ogasawara, sbeattie: I would like to introduce jcollado [15:00] he is working on automation for my group [15:01] he is focusing on Checkbox and LDTP. [15:01] cgregan: he does not seem to be in the channel :) [15:01] ara: hehe.....I guess I beat him here [15:01] ara: he's setting the stage for his grand appearance [15:03] ara, cr3, bdmurray, ogasawara, sbeattie: I would like to introduce jcollado [15:03] jcollado: welcome! [15:04] Hello [15:04] He is an automation engineer for oem and will probably have some questions about LDTP and Checkbox so I figured I would introduce him to you all [15:05] jcollado: if you have any trouble with checkbox, please don't hesitate to blame me or laugh at me :) [15:06] jcollado will be joining me in Oxford if you are going to be there [15:07] jcollado: Don't forget to point when you laugh at cr3 so we know who you're laughing at :P [15:07] cgregan: sorry dude, when I heard you and him would be there, I wimped out [15:09] cr3: hehe......we are very frightening here in oem [15:10] jcollado: welcome! [15:10] Thank you. [15:10] cgregan: haven't you met the folks in montreal? I think we're close competition in terms of scariness [15:11] cr3: I have met a few....and you are right! :-) [15:12] cr3: I think scariness is proportional to the number of month of winter you are subjected to! [15:18] cgregan: you're talking to one of the only guys further north than you right ;) [15:18] yes...cr3 is way north of me [15:30] cgregan: so, relatively speaking, I'm "way" scarier than you too [15:31] cr3: hehe.....frightening! ;-) [15:32] cr3: I don't know it's late autumn/ early winter in England all year round :D [15:32] davmor2: good point, maybe temperature is a factor too [15:33] davmor2: who is their right mind would settle in a place that gets to -30C in winter! [15:33] cr3: stgraber, you and eskimo's [15:34] stgraber: I hope the winter hasn't been too rough on you :) [15:35] davmor2: now that you mention it, we don't have enough eskimo's in the channel [15:40] * davmor2 away [15:50] cr3: nah, remember I come from Switzerland :) [15:52] when I run update manager, my system overheats before it can finish downloading the update lists, when I check system monitor, it say the CPU usage is 70%+, though nothing in the processes list seems to be taking up any CPU except for system monitor itself, is this a known issue? [16:14] when I run update manager, my system overheats before it can finish downloading the update lists, when I check system monitor, it say the CPU usage is 70%+, though nothing in the processes list seems to be taking up any CPU except for system monitor itself, is this a known issue? [16:18] gaelfx: if the system is overheating, that sounds like it might be hardware related === cprofitt is now known as cprofitt_lunch [16:23] cgregan: I'm just trying out those two bugs that Chris left comments on [16:23] davmor2: ok [16:23] davmor2: was his comment for more data on the issue? [16:23] davmor2: hey, did you do some tests on LTSP ? I did an install of alpha-5 and it seemed to work fine here. [16:24] stgraber: no I was having races issue with the partitioner it was all I could do to get one install up and running I will be testing it tomorrow though if that helps :) [16:25] cgregan: Yes basically [16:25] davmor2: it always helps === mvo_ is now known as mvo [16:27] charlie-tca: yeah, probably, and I know this sounds stupid, but any idea how I can figure out what's eating my processor? [16:29] Not stupid, no question that you don't know the answer to is silly. I don't know how to figure it out, [16:29] but I would suspect the updates that are being applied [16:29] Maybe top would tell you [16:30] what is top? and yeah, I'm using apt-get for updates, seems to be faring better than update manager [16:31] top is an application that shows what is running, cpu%, mem%, and a bunch of other things [16:32] does it show CPU temp? [16:32] no [16:33] Not sure what will, either [16:33] I never got anything to show it for me [16:50] lm_sensors should show temp [16:51] meh he left the room :( [16:51] maybe overheated again? [16:53] If his cpu is over heating it's more likely that his chip fan is is blocked or on the blink than anything else [16:53] charlie-tca: you're states bound right? [16:53] I'm in Idaho, yes [16:56] if he comes back on after I've gone ask him to check the temperature while running the live cd if it isn't colder then it's more likely his system. [16:56] okay [16:56] ta :) [16:56] no, thank you === fader is now known as fader|lunch === fader|lunch is now known as fader === cprofitt_lunch is now known as cprofitt === slangase` is now known as slangasek === cprofitt is now known as cprofitt_ticket === cprofitt_ticket is now known as cprofitt === smb_tp_ is now known as smb_tp