[06:52] <ara> morning all :)
[08:00] <eeejay> hey ara
[08:01] <ara> eeejay: hey hey
[08:02] <eeejay> ara, so i am writing tests for notify-ubuntu using the framework
[08:02] <ara> eeejay: cool
[08:03] <eeejay> ara: and I am having dificulty understanding the proper way to make a test fail (when assertion fails), and when to make the test report an error (when automation fails)
[08:04] <eeejay> ara: did that make sense?
[08:04] <ara> eeejay: yes, that makes sense :)
[08:04] <ara> eeejay: the problem is that, for ldtp, everything is an error
[08:04] <ara> eeejay: but there's a way
[08:05] <ara> eeejay: if you find a fail, you can log that as a failure like this: "log("blah blah blah, "failure")
[08:05] <eeejay> ara: + i think in both cases a screenshot is useful, because it may be an appearance bug, so i think the xslt might need some tweaking
[08:05] <ara> eeejay: and then, modify the report.xsl to add that as a different situation
[08:05] <ara> eeejay: feel free to add your modifications and propose a merge
[08:06] <eeejay> ara: hm, if for example the gedit test fails, it still shows up as "success" in the html
[08:06] <ara> eeejay: no, it doesn't
[08:06] <ara> it is log as "error"
[08:06] <eeejay> ara: ok, i will make another branch for those kinds of stuff
[08:07] <eeejay> ara: but it still has <success>1</success>
[08:07] <eeejay> ara: even if there is an error tag before
[08:07] <eeejay> actually, i will have to check again
[08:11]  * ara takes a break
[08:25] <eeejay> ara: if you change one of the oracle files in the gedit test, and run the test, the html output will show "passed" <- I just rechecked
[08:53] <ara> eeejay: ok, thanks for the report, I will have a look into it
[09:10] <ara> eeejay: I have filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop-testing/+bug/337121
[09:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 337121 in ubuntu-desktop-testing "Gedit tests show success, even if the oracle file is different" [High,New]
[09:11] <ara> eeejay: in case you want to subscribe
[09:11] <eeejay> ara: thanks
[09:15] <eeejay> ara: the only way i got a test to "fail" is by raising LdtpExecutionError
[09:15] <eeejay> ara: but i would expect that to be reserved for automation failures, not for tests that don't pass
[09:28] <eeejay> i'll write that in the bug..
[11:10] <davmor2> ara: I want to write a case for smoketesting I'm just wondering where the best place to put it is?
[11:17] <ara> davmor2: mmm, let me see
[11:17] <davmor2> ara: only reason I'm asking is the rest of the smoketesting is being left on the old wiki
[11:18] <ara> davmor2: can you point me to an old testcases wiki example for smoke testing, please?
[11:19] <davmor2> ara: I don't think there is one which is why I thought it might be worth writing :) goes off to check
[11:22] <ara> davmor2: I said in the OLD wiki :)
[11:23] <davmor2> ara: I still don't think there is one.  I knew what I had to do and the only page is a table of what, when and which bugs
[11:25] <ara> davmor2: then, on the new wiki, maybe under "TestPlans" ?
[11:25] <davmor2> ara: Okay cool :)
[11:59] <davmor2> ara: does that make sense http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Plans/SmokeTesting ?
[12:02] <ara> davmor2: yes, it looks  nice. Maybe you could add the table of results
[12:02] <ara> under SmokeTesting/Results or something like that
[12:04] <davmor2> Yeah good point
[12:19] <davmor2> ara: Done http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Plans/SmokeTesting/Results and I linked it from the other page too :)
[12:20] <ara> davmor2: \o/
[12:20] <davmor2> Yay ready for Monday :)
[12:21] <ara> davmor2: yes, remember to create https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UbuntuTestingDay/20090309
[12:21] <ara> davmor2: and announce it :)
[12:21] <ara> davmor2: rock on!
[12:21] <davmor2> No probs
[13:24]  * davmor2 Lunch
[15:00] <cgregan> ara, cr3, bdmurray, ogasawara, sbeattie: I would like to introduce jcollado
[15:00] <cgregan> he is working on automation for my group
[15:01] <cgregan> he is focusing on Checkbox and LDTP.
[15:01] <ara> cgregan: he does not seem to be in the channel :)
[15:01] <cgregan> ara: hehe.....I guess I beat him here
[15:01] <cr3> ara: he's setting the stage for his grand appearance
[15:03] <cgregan> ﻿ara, cr3, bdmurray, ogasawara, sbeattie: I would like to introduce jcollado
[15:03] <ara> jcollado: welcome!
[15:04] <jcollado> Hello
[15:04] <cgregan> He is an automation engineer for oem and will probably have some questions about LDTP and Checkbox so I figured I would introduce him to you all
[15:05] <cr3> jcollado: if you have any trouble with checkbox, please don't hesitate to blame me or laugh at me :)
[15:06] <cgregan> jcollado will be joining me in Oxford if you are going to be there
[15:07] <davmor2> jcollado: Don't forget to point when you laugh at cr3 so we know who you're laughing at  :P
[15:07] <cr3> cgregan: sorry dude, when I heard you and him would be there, I wimped out
[15:09] <cgregan> cr3: hehe......we are very frightening here in oem
[15:10] <ogasawara> jcollado: welcome!
[15:10] <jcollado> Thank you.
[15:10] <cr3> cgregan: haven't you met the folks in montreal? I think we're close competition in terms of scariness
[15:11] <cgregan> cr3: I have met a few....and you are right! :-)
[15:12] <cgregan> cr3: I think scariness is proportional to the number of month of winter you are subjected to!
[15:18] <davmor2> cgregan: you're talking to one of the only guys further north than you right ;)
[15:18] <cgregan> yes...cr3 is way north of me
[15:30] <cr3> cgregan: so, relatively speaking, I'm "way" scarier than you too
[15:31] <cgregan> cr3: hehe.....frightening! ;-)
[15:32] <davmor2> cr3: I don't know it's late autumn/ early winter in England all year round :D
[15:32] <cr3> davmor2: good point, maybe temperature is a factor too
[15:33] <cr3> davmor2: who is their right mind would settle in a place that gets to -30C in winter!
[15:33] <davmor2> cr3: stgraber, you and eskimo's
[15:34] <cr3> stgraber: I hope the winter hasn't been too rough on you :)
[15:35] <cr3> davmor2: now that you mention it, we don't have enough eskimo's in the channel
[15:40]  * davmor2 away
[15:50] <stgraber> cr3: nah, remember I come from Switzerland :)
[15:52] <gaelfx> when I run update manager, my system overheats before it can finish downloading the update lists, when I check system monitor, it say the CPU usage is 70%+, though nothing in the processes list seems to be taking up any CPU except for system monitor itself, is this a known issue?
[16:14] <gaelfx> when I run update manager, my system overheats before it can finish downloading the update lists, when I check system monitor, it say the CPU usage is 70%+, though nothing in the processes list seems to be taking up any CPU except for system monitor itself, is this a known issue?
[16:18] <charlie-tca> gaelfx: if the system is overheating, that sounds like it might be hardware related
[16:23] <davmor2> cgregan: I'm just trying out those two bugs that Chris left comments on
[16:23] <cgregan> davmor2: ok
[16:23] <cgregan> davmor2: was his comment for more data on the issue?
[16:23] <stgraber> davmor2: hey, did you do some tests on LTSP ? I did an install of alpha-5 and it seemed to work fine here.
[16:24] <davmor2> stgraber: no I was having races issue with the partitioner it was all I could do to get one install up and running I will be testing it tomorrow though if that helps :)
[16:25] <davmor2> cgregan: Yes basically
[16:25] <stgraber> davmor2: it always helps
[16:27] <gaelfx> charlie-tca: yeah, probably, and I know this sounds stupid, but any idea how I can figure out what's eating my processor?
[16:29] <charlie-tca> Not stupid, no question that you don't know the answer to is silly. I don't know how to figure it out,
[16:29] <charlie-tca> but I would suspect the updates that are being applied
[16:29] <charlie-tca> Maybe top would tell you
[16:30] <gaelfx> what is top? and yeah, I'm using apt-get for updates, seems to be faring better than update manager
[16:31] <charlie-tca> top is an application that shows what is running, cpu%, mem%, and a bunch of other things
[16:32] <gaelfx> does it show CPU temp?
[16:32] <charlie-tca> no
[16:33] <charlie-tca> Not sure what will, either
[16:33] <charlie-tca> I never got anything to show it for me
[16:50] <davmor2> lm_sensors should show temp
[16:51] <davmor2> meh he left the room :(
[16:51] <charlie-tca> maybe overheated again?
[16:53] <davmor2> If his cpu is over heating it's more likely that his chip fan is is blocked or on the blink than anything else
[16:53] <davmor2> charlie-tca: you're states bound right?
[16:53] <charlie-tca> I'm in Idaho, yes
[16:56] <davmor2> if he comes back on after I've gone ask him to check the temperature while running the live cd if it isn't colder then it's more likely his system.
[16:56] <charlie-tca> okay
[16:56] <davmor2> ta :)
[16:56] <charlie-tca> no, thank you