[00:05] <Riddell> hi danimo_
[00:05] <Riddell> just uploading qt 4.5
[00:25]  * jussi01 just applied for uds sponsorship
[00:28] <Riddell> yay
[00:29] <jussi01> I hope I get it. Id really want to come :)
[00:38] <JontheEchidna> So are we going to remove knetworkmanager now that we have the plasmoid?
[00:39] <Riddell> does the plasmoid work for everyone?
[00:39] <ScottK> I think removing it for Jaunty would be a mistake.  I think we should ship it on the dvd.
[00:39] <Riddell> I havn't heard many complaints
[00:39] <ScottK> I think leaving it on the dvd for one release is safe.
[00:40] <ScottK> Then people have a way to install on a wireless only system that won't work with the plasmoid.
[00:41] <JontheEchidna> I think asac was wanting to know in one of the bug reports
[00:41] <JontheEchidna> since knetworkmanager was so buggy
[00:41] <JontheEchidna> I will migrate wishlist bugs over to the plasmoid at least
[00:42] <ScottK> People say that but except for a few crashes it's worked great for me since edgy
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> Static IP config is totally busted and since 0.7+svn it lost that box that used to come up on left-click showing stats, etc
[00:45] <JontheEchidna> I think it's a very mixed bag based on what you use it for
[00:48]  * Nightrose +1's JontheEchidna
[00:48] <Nightrose> the static IP thing was a huge pita when i was in greece
[00:49] <JontheEchidna> So while I suppose that for some usecases it works adequately, it is somewhat of a pain to maintain bugs for
[00:49] <Nightrose> the hotel wifi wanted a static IP...
[00:49]  * ScottK doesn't use NM with static IP.
[00:50] <jussi01> with dynamic Ive had no issues - its been fantastic
[00:50] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, generally it worked flawless for me with a dynamic wired connection too
[00:50] <jussi01> only thing missing is a feature - integration of the mobile-broadband-database
[00:53] <JontheEchidna> maybe we could invite asac to the next meeting to give this a proper discussion?
[00:55] <JontheEchidna> When is the next meeting? It's soon, isn't it?
[00:55] <seele> kubuntu meeting? i didn't realise there was one scheduled
[00:55] <JontheEchidna> I don't know for sure.. that's why I was asking
[00:55] <Riddell> there isn't one
[00:56] <Riddell> feel free to schedule one though
[00:56] <seele> ScottK: do you know about a CALug meeting on April 8?
[01:25] <ScottK> I have a vague recollection one is coming up.  Did I get volunteered to present?
[01:28] <seele> no, but i did about training people for usability testing of ubuntu
[01:28] <seele> not really keen on it, but they asked too nicely
[01:28] <seele> wtf keen? i need to watch some television and get my vocabulary back
[02:06] <ScottK> Looks like Qt 4.5 didn't help ports any.
[02:07] <jjesse> wow nice reference to keen :)
[02:19] <JontheEchidna> The new kpackagekit is nice
[02:20] <jjesse> i liked the kcontrol update module or whatever it is
[02:21] <jjesse> is there a reason the daily cds are always such a slllooooooooooowww download for me?
[02:21]  * ScottK notes two versions of qt4-x11 building on sparc at the same time and wonders how that will work out.
[02:21] <jjesse> i bet not very well ;)
[02:22]  * ScottK suspects there's a narrow window where things get racy.  Hopefully they don't finish that close together.
[03:02] <vorian> did someone get amarok yet?
[03:05] <JontheEchidna> Not that I'm aware of
[03:07] <ScottK> It needs doing.
[03:07] <vorian> on it
[03:24] <maco> what needs done?
[03:25] <ScottK> New bugfix release needs packaging.
[03:26] <maco> can i try a bit later tonight?
[03:29] <ScottK> I think vorian is doing it already and that one is a beast (embedds its own mysql) for someone who's just getting started.
[03:33] <maco> oh ok
[03:33] <maco> does this one do cds yet?
[03:35] <LaserJock> maco: you really run pidgin on Kubuntu?
[03:35] <maco> yes
[03:36] <vorian> woo hoo
[03:36] <maco> kopete doesnt let me rearrange groups in the buddy list. i like to group my groups
[03:36] <maco> woohoo?
[03:36] <maco> LaserJock: why?
[03:37] <LaserJock> maco: just seemed odd as for a while I was running kopete in Gnome
[03:37] <maco> lol
[03:37] <LaserJock> I only have 1 group though so no need to group the groups
[03:37] <LaserJock> I'm not nearly as popular as you it seems ;-)
[03:38] <maco> ive got all my friends from high school in a group, and my friends from college in another one, and linux people in another, and...
[03:38] <LaserJock> good grief
[03:38]  * LaserJock needs to get some friends
[03:38] <LaserJock> I don't know anybody in "real life" that uses IM
[03:38] <maco> lol. i mostly only talk to the people in the linux, hackers, and work groups
[03:39] <maco> i telecommute so i have all my coworkers on jabber
[03:42] <vorian> congrats maco, on the hall O' fame
[03:42] <vorian> is that photo from OLF?
[03:46] <maco> yes
[03:46] <maco> that's jorge's shoulder
[03:46] <maco> and thanks
[03:46] <vorian> :)
[03:47] <vorian> hmm
[04:44] <nixternal> http://www.bringvictory.com/
[04:47] <vorian> I HATE YOU NIXTERNAL!!!
[04:47] <vorian> <3
[04:47] <nixternal> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[04:47] <vorian> i should have known
[04:47] <nixternal> come on, that was good
[04:48] <vorian> it was
[04:48] <nixternal> I just tweeted it, so it will get the tiny url and suckahs will click it
[04:48] <vorian> My wife thought it was hillarious
[04:48] <nixternal> 22:47:09 [      j1mc] i would check if my browser weren't hijacked by rick astley crap
[04:48] <nixternal> gahahahahahahahaha
[04:48] <vorian> haha
[04:49] <nixternal> the worst part is that if you don't xkill it, and try to kill it, and close the tab, then it pops up each lyric in a popup, so you have to keep clicking OK
[04:49] <vorian> that's evil
[04:50] <rgreening> doesn't in konq
[04:50] <nixternal> hahaha, damn that konq
[04:50] <rgreening> lol
[04:52] <FireRabbit> rgreening:hey, curious when will kdebindings 4.2.1 be in jaunty?
[04:53] <vorian> FireRabbit: when the rest of 4.2.1 enters
[04:53] <rgreening> FireRabbit: all the packages are built in the private staging area. So, we just need to get a core-dev to copy them over.
[04:54] <rgreening> vorian: I have an update for kdebindings from FireRabbit. I'm going to look at it shortly.... see if I can get it to build correctly...
[04:55] <FireRabbit> okay so sounds like very soon then. great, thanks everyone.
[04:56] <rgreening> np FireRabbit
[04:56] <vorian> cool
[05:20] <j1mc> !nixternal
[05:20] <nixternal> hahaha, you just joined to do taht?
[05:20] <nixternal> wth, where did teh I LOVE MIRC crap come from?
[05:21] <j1mc> yes, i did.
[05:21] <nixternal> @btlogin
[05:21] <j1mc> later, nixternal
[05:21] <nixternal> can't remember theh bot commands...foo
[05:25] <vorian> wee!
[05:25] <vorian> tethered via iphone
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Welcome new devs ! :-)
[05:30] <rgreening> FireRabbit: test building now
[05:30] <FireRabbit> woo
[05:31] <FireRabbit> let me know if anything doesnt seem right
[05:31] <rgreening> I was able to apply your changes to 4.2.1 no problem, lets see if it builds...
[05:35] <DaSkreech> hi Quintasan_
[05:44] <FireRabbit> rgreening: you should probably perform some basic sanity test too using that bash script i sent you or something similar
[05:44] <rgreening> sure
[05:45] <rgreening> I'll need to update to kde 4.2.1 as well :)
[05:45] <FireRabbit> ah :)
[05:48] <maco> linux format called 9.04 "jumping jackalope"
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Better than what I heard Hardy called
[05:57] <DaSkreech> oooh there are 4.2.1 packages?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Isthere a changelog?
[05:58] <rgreening> :)
[05:59] <rgreening> should be released when Riddell awakes in the am :)
[05:59] <DaSkreech> \o/
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Ugh Koala
[05:59] <rgreening> all built in staging area
[06:00] <DaSkreech> I'm desperately trying to stave off KDE 4.3 envy
[06:00] <FireRabbit> is the staging area a public repo btw?
[06:01] <rgreening> no
[06:02] <rgreening> staging is in private as we aren't supposed to release until KDE officially releases
[06:04] <rgreening> FireRabbit: you could apply to become a kubuntu member and help us dev :)
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Indeed he could
[06:06] <DaSkreech> hiya sabdfl
[06:07]  * DaSkreech tries to decide wether to present you with karma or a koala....
[06:07] <rgreening> :P
[06:08] <DaSkreech> rgreening: I've been avoiding KDE oooh shiny posts. Probably will until 4.2.3
[06:08] <rgreening> lol
[06:08] <DaSkreech> I can't deal with the two weeks of happiness till trunk envy takes over
[06:09] <DaSkreech> The sad part is I'm betting even if we get summer in trunk that's still going to happen
[06:10] <FireRabbit> rgreening: maybe :)
[06:27] <rgreening> FireRabbit: all build successful
[06:30] <rgreening> FireRabbit: so, updating to 4.2.1 locally and then to test bindings
[06:38] <rgreening> FireRabbit: test building in staging area now...
[06:56] <DaSkreech> Is there a change log?
[07:06] <Quintasan_> Hmm
[07:06] <Quintasan_> Anyone intrested in raptor-menu?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> \o/
[07:06] <DaSkreech> o/
[07:06] <Quintasan_> Hi :P
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Hi :)
[07:07] <Quintasan_> I should be omw to schools but nvm that :P
[07:08] <Quintasan_> http://ppa.launchpad.net/quintasan/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/r/raptor-menu/
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Whoot!
[07:09]  * Quintasan_ presents Raptor Menu
[07:09] <Quintasan_> :3
[07:09] <FireRabbit> will any of the official kubuntu team ppas have intrepid backports of 4.2.1?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> I can haz Dino-soar menu?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> yez I can haz!
[07:11] <Quintasan> Philoraptor plx
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Quintasan: What version of dbus does it depend on?
[07:13] <Quintasan> omg I like it, some bugs but it is good
[07:13] <Quintasan> DaSkreech: hmm, let me check
[07:14] <DaSkreech> It says it needs libqt4-dbus
[07:15] <DaSkreech> oh wait
[07:15] <Quintasan> hmm dunno, site contains no info for dbus
[07:15] <DaSkreech> It's actaully not installed :)
[07:15] <Quintasan> I've adde libplasma-dev and kdebase-workspace-dev :P
[07:15] <Quintasan> Should I add it to control?
[07:15] <rgreening> FireRabbit: yep. we have backported 4.2.1 and it will appear in kubuntu-experimental (iirc)
[07:16] <rgreening> for intrepid
[07:16] <rgreening> not sure if it's going to intrepid-backports (don't think so). but def in the PPA.
[07:17] <FireRabbit> okay, that works for me, great.
[07:17] <DaSkreech> I'm installing like 20 new packages just to have raptor :-P
[07:17] <Quintasan> DaSkreech: I'm going to schools now, I'll be back in 4hours (maybe :P)
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Cool Later :)
[07:17] <Quintasan> If you could test it I would be grateful :3
[07:17] <DaSkreech> I'll install it :)
[07:58] <markey> morning
[07:58] <markey> guys, the "reboot required" is getting a bit ridiculous
[07:58] <markey> I might have stayed on windows in this regard
[07:59] <markey> yesterday I was asked to reboot after an adept update
[07:59] <Mamarok> why does one have to reboot for a network-manager update?
[07:59] <markey> guess what happened this morning again?
[07:59] <markey> this is a workstation; I don't usually reboot it
[08:02] <markey> btw, if you want to see kubuntu deployed on KIOSK like hardware, this is a big no-no too
[08:04] <bothorsen> Odd, I didn't get any reboot required
[08:04] <markey> lucky you
[08:04] <bothorsen> markey: You usually only get those after updating the kernel or kernel modules
[08:05] <markey> yes, this time there was no kernel update (the kernel upates are far too frequent, but that's another topic)
[08:05] <markey> it was just KNetworkManager and few other things updated
[08:05] <bothorsen> markey: If you keep getting them, perhaps you should investigate if something (not that I have any clue what it could be) have been confused
[08:06] <rgreening> perhaps you have enabled: backports, updates, etc. when perhaps you should only have security updates enabled in your softweare sources.
[08:06] <rgreening> turning on all updates is not necessary and sometimes you get what you ask for...
[08:06] <markey> yes I have enabled backports. but why should that turn me into someone wanting to reboot every day?
[08:06] <markey> I don't see the connection
[08:06] <bothorsen> markey: Hehe, I didn't get the update notification before just now. So I will see if I also get the reboot notification
[08:07] <Exilant> Hi, I'm trying to write a python plasmoid in jaunty(kde 4.2), however, with the examples from the kde tech-base i always get errors, namely the "from PyKDE4 import plasmascript" fails. (python-plasma is installed, /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/plasmascript.py is present), any ideas?
[08:07] <rgreening> reboot isn't absolutely required like in windows. the system will happily run. the reboot is to get new stuff affected by the update thaty can only ever occur via restarting in the new kernel, for ex
[08:07] <rgreening> markey: ^
[08:08] <markey> in this case, the system should not indicate to me that a reboot is required
[08:08] <markey> it should be made smarter
[08:08] <rgreening> the icon is a reminder... and doesn't force you
[08:08] <markey> and decide if that reboot is _really_ needed
[08:08] <markey> (it isn't)
[08:08] <bothorsen> markey: I also got the reboot icon. But I shut down my machines when not working, so it's no big deal for me
[08:08] <rgreening> if you think you can improve it, feel free to offer patches and suggestions :)
[08:08] <rgreening> they are always welcome
[08:09] <markey> I'm offering my advice :)
[08:09] <rgreening> advice without suggestion is a waste of o2 :)
[08:09] <markey> you could talk to this over with your usability experts (seele..)
[08:09] <rgreening> "make it better" means nothing. define better :P
[08:10] <rgreening> feel free to open a brainstorm or a bug and define what you would like to change. perhaps someone will find your suggestions useful and make a change.
[08:11] <markey> that guy is great ;)
[08:11] <markey> like totally
[08:11] <markey> and gone.
[08:12] <markey> wb rgreening
[08:13] <rgreening> :)
[08:13] <rgreening> yeah, I just updated KDE. So I restarted kdm.
[08:13] <rgreening> now, time ofr sleep
[08:14] <FireRabbit> good night rgreening
[08:15]  * FireRabbit will wait on the edge of his chair for 4.2.1 to show up in the update manager!
[08:15] <rgreening> nite FireRabbit (kdebindings update in for Jaunty). I'll do Intrepid in about 6hrs or so...
[08:15] <FireRabbit> great thanks very much!
[08:16] <rgreening> np. I expect Riddell will be up soonish to start moving kde 4.2.1 over.
[08:16] <rgreening> ok. gone for real.
[08:16] <rgreening> zzzzzzzzz
[08:36] <valgaav> join chakra
[10:52] <seaLne> my kubuntu stickers arrived actually in the envelope this time, only one sheet though
[10:55] <Tm_T> I forgot to ask those ):
[11:00] <markey> yay for hiring Aurélien Gâteau :)
[11:01] <markey> canonical++
[11:01] <markey> a sign of beginning changes? :)
[11:01] <markey> one may hope so
[11:15] <Riddell> anyone want to test 4.2.1?
[11:17] <Tm_T> Riddell: sure, if it's intrepid
[11:18] <jussio1> Riddell: grumble... only got intrepid here, otherwise for certain
[11:18] <Riddell> intrepid is good
[11:18] <Riddell> msg'ed
[11:18] <jussio1> :)
[11:19] <Tm_T> Riddell: E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found.
[11:19] <Tm_T> interesting error
[11:20] <Riddell> needs  apt-transport-https
[11:20] <jussio1> hehe, just got same here
[11:21] <Tm_T> Riddell: aye, realised that rightaway, funny how apt doesn't have way to mention that (either)
[11:21] <Tm_T> Riddell: btw I have been thinking some way to implement to revert/rollback package upgrades etc
[11:22] <Tm_T> Riddell: something we might like to look for?
[11:24] <Riddell> Tm_T: do you find much need of that?
[11:24] <Tm_T> Riddell: at times, I think that would something to be implemented in tools like wajig perhaps
[11:25] <Tm_T> Riddell: it's more of people who breaks their system with 3rd party repositories and/or bad upgrades
[11:25] <Tm_T> not for me really, I can handle packages alone
[11:37] <Riddell> bug 337501
[11:38] <Riddell> jussio1: that's the one
[11:42] <Tm_T> Get your free copy!  http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/03/linux-format-kde-issue.html
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[11:43] <jussio1> Riddell: ahh... makes sense
[11:43] <jussio1> Riddell: so its just logout/login and we are done?
[11:43] <Riddell> jussio1: yes
[11:44] <jussio1> :)
[12:00] <jussio1> Riddell: seems ok.. just playing round a bit. got a link to a changelog/release notes?
[12:01] <Riddell> nope
[12:13] <Riddell> ooh ooh ooh
[12:19] <Nightrose> ooh ooh ooh?
[12:19] <Riddell> visa came through
[12:20] <Lure> Riddell: I can test 4.2.1 (jaunty)
[12:21] <seele> Riddell: follow up information would have been nice. it looked kindof weird without it :P
[12:21] <Lure> seele: I think Riddell is going to Nigeria ;-)
[12:23] <seele> Lure: yes, but how did the rest of the channel know that :)
[12:24] <Lure> seele: you have to keep the context of couple of months ;-)
[12:24] <Lure> seele: Riddell is good at that and he expect nothing less from us ;-)
[12:25] <seele> at least he said "visa came" instead of "it came"...
[12:25] <Lure> lol
[12:26] <Lure> and we all know that he is not talking about his credit card, right?
[12:26] <Nightrose> do we? ;-)
[12:32] <danimo_> cool stuff about creator in jaunty, thanks Riddell
[12:32] <danimo_> and fabo, of course
[12:32] <Riddell> right, what do I need for going to Nigeria?
[12:34] <Mamarok> Riddell: btw, could you bring back those millions we have inherited there, so we don't have to send monney...
[12:36] <Lure> Riddell: I thought you were considering this: http://dot.kde.org/2009/01/07/invite-kde-free-and-open-source-nigeria-2009
[12:36] <Lure> Mamarok: lol ;-)
[12:37] <Riddell> Lure: that's the one
[12:45] <Riddell> seele!
[12:45] <Riddell> such comments from one so sweet and innocent, I'm shocked
[12:46] <seele> Riddell: a bit distracted are we? i said that AGES ago
[12:49] <Riddell> I have no idea where to start with preparing for this trip
[12:49] <Riddell> I don't even know what to wera
[12:49] <Riddell> wear
[12:49] <seele> pants i hope
[12:50] <Riddell> well I would probably take shorts rather than trousers, but I don't think they're allowed
[12:51] <seele> yeah, i think youre probably stuck with pants
[12:52] <cjwatson> hi - could somebody have a look at kvpm bug 335972?
[12:53] <Riddell> smarter knows about that package I think
[12:53] <Riddell> smarter: ^^
[12:54] <Nightrose> Riddell: travelwiki will help
[12:54] <Nightrose> they know such stuff
[12:55] <smarter> Riddell: yup
[12:55] <Riddell> http://wikitravel.org/en/Kano  bit sparse :)
[12:56] <Nightrose> heh ooooooook...
[12:56] <smarter> cjwatson, Riddell: I'll see if I can get that patch to work
[12:56] <cjwatson> ta
[12:57] <smarter> unfortunately, kvpm in Jaunty is quiet old, upstream released a new version recently but the tarball was missing files and no answer since then :/
[12:57] <Nightrose> Riddell: but http://wikitravel.org/en/Nigeria should be more helpful
[13:04] <seele> eek: http://wikitravel.org/en/Nigeria#Stay_safe
[13:12] <tackat> seele: don't tell me you didn't know :}
[13:12] <seele> tackat: i never really had a reason to investigate travel conditions to west african country before :P
[13:14] <markey> agateau: congrats btw for the canonical thing :)
[13:14] <markey> really nice, that
[13:14] <agateau> markey: thanks :)
[13:14] <markey> oh and Gwenview has become very nice, thanks for that too :)
[13:15] <markey> I especially like that it now offers sorting
[13:15] <markey> and the UI is easy to use and pretty
[13:16] <markey> one suggestion: make the mouse scroll-wheel steps a bit smaller
[13:16] <markey> it tends to skip a bit too much
[13:16] <markey> confuses a bit
[13:16] <tackat> seele: well I think I found out about it while reading about 419 scams and the fate of hardware donations ...
[13:17] <Riddell> seele: it's ok, us ninjas can take on those pirates any time
[13:18] <Lure> Riddell: kde 421: kmail's dimap lost all cached folders - anybody else reported this?
[13:19] <Lure> Riddell: rebuild cache helped, but this may loose local changes (if they were not yet updated)
[13:19] <Lure> actually, it also lost some config (like window layout...) :-(
[13:19] <Lure> this may be actually related to shutdown of kde 4.2.0 version after upgrade of qt and kde421
[13:20] <Lure> I recall "lost config on improper shutdown" bugs
[13:25] <neversfelde> another tester for KDE 4.2.1 needed?
[13:28] <seele> Riddell: lol
[13:32] <ScottK> seele: Knowing most of that just takes reading the news.
[13:33] <ScottK> Good morning all.
[13:35]  * ScottK waves to cjwatson.
[13:35] <cjwatson> hiya
[13:35] <Riddell> neversfelde: msged
[13:36] <neversfelde> Riddell: k, will test it on jaunty
[13:36] <seele> ScottK: i live in dc. by the time i get through local news it's nearly time for bed :P
[13:37]  * ScottK knows something about that.
[13:43]  * Lure is pissed that lenovo can not ship 1 EUR recovery DVD with 2000 EUR laptop - need to mess with burning
[13:43] <ScottK> Riddell: Do you think you could talk to doko about looking at the qt4-x11 Internal Compiler Error on powerpc?  That's one ports arch we could have actual users on and if we can't get qt4 4.5 to build, it's pretty hopeless after that.
[13:45]  * smarter noted than what appears to be the icon of a box just appeared in his systray, then disappeared 2 seconds later
[13:45] <smarter> is KPackageKit shy? :p
[13:48] <neversfelde> oh, this is much better. KDE 4.2.1 fixes my logout problem and is very fast. Any special tests needed, like Xinerama or Twinview?
[13:51] <smarter> Also, since I upgraded to Qt 4.5rc1(then to Jaunty, then to KDE 4.2.1, then to Qt 4.5 final), logging in with KDM doesn't work
[13:51] <smarter> I can type my login/pass and it seems to start, but the screen stay black
[13:51] <Lure> smarter: so how do you login? (it works here)
[13:52] <neversfelde> works here too
[13:52] <smarter> If I log into a tty and do DISPLAY=:1 startkde&
[13:52] <smarter> it works
[13:52] <smarter> *DISPLAY=:0 actually
[13:52] <JontheEchidna> I upgraded everything and restarted, and it worked
[13:52] <freeflying> anyone would like give me the repository of kde4.2.1? thanks
[13:52] <Lure> smarter: did you reboot?
[13:52] <smarter> Lure: a lot of time, and everytime I had to do that :P
[13:53] <smarter> the problem first appeared when I rebuilt Qt 4.5rc1 to use it on Intrepid
[13:54] <smarter> but it continues with 4.5 final and Jaunty
[13:54] <smarter> nothing suspicious in the logs
[13:54] <smarter> it just stops at "kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/knotify4
[13:54] <smarter> "
[13:58] <rgreening> smarter: sounds like the kdm bug we fixed. but its fixed in latest kdm
[13:58] <rgreening> so you shouldnt be seeing it
[13:58] <smarter> well, doesn't seem to be fixed here :p
[13:58] <rgreening> unless patch was mistakenly removed
[13:58] <smarter> wasn't it supposed to be part of 4.2.1?
[13:58] <rgreening> though I was sure it was backported to 4.2.1
[13:58]  * smarter investigates a bit
[13:58] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: do you remember ^
[14:02] <Lure> rgreening: afair, it needed both qt and kdm fix
[14:03] <Lure> rgreening: maybe kdm fix is not on kde 4.2.1?
[14:03] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: we still have the kdm patch in our packages
[14:03] <Lure> ok
[14:03] <neversfelde> ksplash is still on the wrong screen :)
[14:03] <Lure> smarter: are you using kde 4.2.1 from ninjas?
[14:03] <neversfelde> but I think I can live with it
[14:03] <JontheEchidna> kubuntu_62_r922805_kdm_qt4.5_crash_fix.diff
[14:04] <smarter> Lure: yup
[14:08] <rgreening> smarter, I think you may have some old plasma applets lying around. can you check? All should be updated to plasma-widget-<name>
[14:08] <rgreening> also, try with a blank/new test user login.
[14:08] <smarter> http://pastebin.com/mb48d6e6
[14:09] <smarter> rgreening: everytime I've tried that, kdm stopped working too, but that was back in hardy days iirc
[14:09] <smarter> in fact, it had the same symptom now that I think of it
[14:11] <rgreening> plasmoid xbar is there twice
[14:11] <rgreening> lol
[14:11] <smarter> plasmoid-xbar is a dummy package
[14:11] <smarter> for transition
[14:11] <rgreening> ah
[14:12] <rgreening> hmm.. smarter, can you try it though with a fresh new loging?
[14:12] <smarter> okay, thought it might not work and be completely unrelated
[14:16] <cumulus007> Where to find the translations of the quickaccess plasmoid?
[14:21] <JontheEchidna> cumulus007: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/plasma-widget-quickaccess/
[14:22] <ScottK> Speaking of translations ...
[14:22] <ScottK> Now that we are to get translation import failure messages, anyone know what one should do with one if it arrives?
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> not a clue
[14:22] <ScottK> OK.  It's not just me.
[14:23] <JontheEchidna> cumulus007: That being said, it looks like the only translatable thing is the desktop file...
[14:23] <cumulus007> indeed
[14:27] <JontheEchidna> I see il8n calls in the source, so it shouldn't be a coding error. I wonder what's wrong
[14:27] <cumulus007> JontheEchidna: is that a bug?
[14:28] <Riddell> build it, see what ends up in the po/ directory
[14:28] <rickspencer3> morning all
[14:28]  * JontheEchidna builds
[14:28] <seele> rickspencer3: very early morning to you
[14:28]  * seele hands rickspencer3 some coffee
[14:28] <JontheEchidna> It doesn't ship any .po files
[14:29] <jjesse_> mmm coffee
[14:29] <Tm_T> Riddell: is 4.2.1 repo now how far from todays final state?
[14:29]  * rickspencer3 slurp
[14:30] <Riddell> Tm_T: it's about final
[14:30] <Tm_T> Riddell: thanks, so I don't have to worry about yet to come packages anymore?
[14:31] <Riddell> only version number changes are likely to happen
[14:31] <Tm_T> that's all I need to know to start my test runs, thanks
[14:31] <Tm_T> test and build runs that is
[14:32] <rgreening> heya rickspencer3
[14:33] <rickspencer3> rgreening: hi
[14:33] <rickspencer3> second day of my week using Kubuntu
[14:33] <rgreening> cool.
[14:33] <rickspencer3> interesting developing Gtk Apps on KDE :)
[14:33] <rgreening> new 4.2.1 is out today
[14:33] <rickspencer3> so I should update, huh?
[14:33] <Tm_T> rickspencer3: and soon you end up having few years long week?
[14:33] <Nightrose> no out yet but soonish
[14:33] <rickspencer3> hehe
[14:34] <rickspencer3> we'll see
[14:34] <rickspencer3> it is very different than GNOME
[14:34] <rgreening> as soon as Riddellcopies over to main
[14:34] <rickspencer3> but it didn't take me long to learn
[14:34] <rickspencer3> isn't Riddelll leaving you guys to your own devices tomorrow?
[14:34] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: the po directory is empty
[14:35] <Nightrose> Riddell going to the pirates tomorrow already?
[14:35]  * Nightrose hands him more ninja gear
[14:35] <rgreening> rickspencer3: we'll survive :)
[14:35] <rgreening> hehe
[14:36] <rickspencer3> survival is one thing, thriving is another ;)
[14:36] <rickspencer3> is it going to be all "Lord of the Flies" without Riddell around?
[14:36] <rgreening> tru dat
[14:37] <rgreening> not at all. We'll simply let ScottK take over
[14:37]  * rgreening ducks and runs
[14:37] <Tm_T> kids...
[14:37] <seele> is ScottK our only motu?
[14:37] <Nightrose> yes mom?
[14:37] <Nightrose> :P
[14:37] <ScottK> It wouldn't be the first time.
[14:37] <seele> er only other
[14:37] <rgreening> hehe
[14:37] <jjesse_> where is Riddell going?
[14:37] <ScottK> seele: No.  Tonio is also core-dev.
[14:37] <ScottK> apachelogger is too when he's around.
[14:37] <seele> ah right. he's all moved in too so he has been around
[14:37] <jjesse_> and nixternal is core-dev if he  does any werk
[14:38] <ScottK> Yeah, well figure the odds.
[14:38] <seele> yeah, i dont think the ship will sink
[14:38] <ScottK> We should have vorian on board soon too.
[14:38] <rgreening> \o/
[14:38] <Tm_T> ScottK: and maybe me if I get money coming in soon
[14:38] <rgreening> and eventually, I'll be applying (let me get motu under the belt for a while)
[14:39] <ScottK> I expect JontheEchidna in the not terribly distant future.
[14:41] <rgreening> Kubuntu team has a lot of really capable peeps (for a small group) :P
[14:42] <neversfelde> saving sessions manually does not work with 4.2.1 in jaunty
[14:42] <a|wen> speaking of which ... Riddell / vorian: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AndreasWenning/DeveloperApplicationTemplate
[14:43] <ScottK> a|wen: You might want to move it to a name that doesn't have template in it.
[14:43]  * ScottK thinks vorian should scribble on that one too.
[14:44] <Riddell> I knew there was another application I should comment on
[14:44] <Riddell> a|wen: what should I say?
[14:44] <desja004> i am going to update a relatively untainted version of 8.10 to 9.04 and was wondering if you guys wanted me to test something in the process? I was just going to change intrepid to jaunty and apt-get dist-upgrade but if you guys have some GUI I'd be happy to test it and report back if there are any problems
[14:44] <a|wen> oh ... good point; moving...
[14:44] <Riddell> desja004: just go for it I think
[14:45] <a|wen> Riddell: you could give me a bit for getting out in the corners ... and a lot of backporting for 4.2.1 now
[14:45] <a|wen> Riddell: as long as it is positive ;)
[14:45] <a|wen> Riddell: just moved the page... be aware
[14:45] <a|wen> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/AndreasWenning/DeveloperApplication
[14:45] <desja004> Riddell: thanks
[14:46] <ScottK> desja004: I'd suggest using the upgrader.  The directions here should still work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[14:46] <smarter> ok, new user doesn't work(kded crashes during start and then other stuff fall apart)
[14:46] <smarter> but the bug I'm encoutering isn't KDM related
[14:46] <smarter> I can reproduce it with XDM
[14:46] <smarter> logging in, kdeinit stops at "kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/knotify4
[14:47] <smarter> "; tty --> DISPLAY=:0 startkde --> work!
[14:47] <seele> ooh, Yuri's night tickets went on sale
[14:49] <smarter> rgreening: ^ any thought? :]
[14:50] <Tm_T> smarter: about night tickets?
[14:51] <smarter> no, about my issue
[14:51] <smarter> I don't even know what night tickets are
[14:51] <desja004> ScottK: fyi those instructions no longer work so i'm going to perform an update from the terminal
[14:52] <desja004> also congrats kubuntu team on getting a few more hires to work on KDE for canonical!
[14:52] <seele> smarter: space party at a local NASA office
[14:52] <ScottK> desja004: OK.  I think it's update-manager -d will do what you want.
[14:52] <smarter> seele: oh, seems fun :]
[14:52] <seele> http://dc.yurisnight.net/2009/tickets.html
[14:52]  * ScottK looks
[14:52] <smarter> desja004: use the console upgrader
[14:53] <smarter> desja004: upgrading using apt-get/aptitude directly isn't supported
[14:53] <smarter> desja004: you have to do do-release-upgrade --mode=desktop -d -p
[14:53] <ScottK> That's the one
[14:53] <jjesse_> is there a mirror to cdimages.ubuntu.com that i could get better transfer rates off of?
[14:53] <desja004> well is updating from a stable release to a devel release supported ;)
[14:53] <jjesse_> for daily cd images?
[14:53] <ScottK> Yes, but not just using apt.
[14:53] <desja004> really?
[14:53] <smarter> desja004: yes
[14:54] <ScottK> Yes.  Use the upgrader like smarter is telling you.
[14:54] <mvo> hi, if someone has a somewhat current kubuntu (alpha5 or better) install, could you please test if gdebi-kde on a terminal starts? or gives a error? (to verify bug #336896)
[14:54] <desja004> smarter: so what's the syntax i should try into a console and run?
[14:54] <smarter> desja004: exactly what I told you
[14:54] <ScottK> desja004: Using apt usually works, but there are some corner cases that the upgrader saves you on.
[14:54] <smarter> It does all sort of horrible things to compense the lack of skills of developers regarding upgrades :P
[14:54] <ScottK> mvo: IIRC we've been discussing getting rid of that.
[14:56] <desja004> smarter: that command is complaining that have a package manager running which i don't
[14:56] <smarter> desja004: dpkg is probably running in the background
[14:56] <mvo> ScottK: in favour of the way provided functionatliy by packagekit?
[14:56] <smarter> ps aux|grep dpkg
[14:56] <desja004> desja004  7661  0.0  0.0   7452   872 pts/1    R+   08:56   0:00 grep dpkg
[14:56] <mvo> scottK or just getting rid of it in general?
[14:56] <ScottK> mvo: Yes.  That's the theory.  I haven't actually studied it myself.
[14:57] <ScottK> In favor of packagekit
[14:57]  * mvo nods
[14:58] <desja004> smarter: thoughts?
[14:58] <smarter> strange
[14:58] <smarter> ps aux|grep apt
[14:59] <ScottK> Check for adept too
[14:59] <desja004> same thing more or less with apt
[15:00] <desja004> and adept
[15:00] <desja004> desja004  7906  0.0  0.0   7452   884 pts/1    R+   08:59   0:00 grep apt
[15:00] <desja004> desja004  7928  0.0  0.0   7452   884 pts/1    R+   09:00   0:00 grep adept
[15:03] <desja004> maybe a reboot? though i can't imagine how that would really help
[15:05] <ScottK> If something is hung that will clear it.
[15:06] <Quintasan> Hi
[15:18] <desja004_> rebooting solved it
[15:23] <Nightrose> Riddell: still need testers for 4.2.1?
[15:24] <Tm_T> Riddell: all installs and runs fine thus far
[15:24] <Tm_T> this far I mean
[15:25] <gribelu> where does 4.2.1 live? a PPA?
[15:25] <Tm_T> in graves
[15:25] <gribelu> I'm bored.. I could try it :)
[15:28] <Riddell> maybe I should copy it over
[15:28] <gribelu> maybe!
[15:28] <Quintasan> 4.2.1? I'm also up for testing :3
[15:29] <Riddell> hang up, upstream is discussing
[15:29] <desja004_> quick question is guidance pm not around for jaunty?
[15:29] <Quintasan> Anyone intrested in testing raptor menu?
[15:29] <neversfelde> I have several problems with 4.2.1, they are all plasma related I think
[15:29] <rgreening> ScottK: does reportbug send to ubuntu or debian in our package?
[15:30] <ScottK> By default I believe it falls and dies or if you have an older version it mails to ubuntu-users.  You can point it at Debian.
[15:30] <rgreening> ok
[15:31] <rgreening> never used it before
[15:34] <rickspencer3> is there any way I can set up Kubuntu so the gtk app I am writing doesn't look so weird?
[15:34] <ScottK> Yes.
[15:34] <rickspencer3> like a them I can apply or something?
[15:35]  * ScottK is looking to give proper directions
[15:35] <smarter> rickspencer3: if gtk-qt-engine is installed, it should uses the Qt/KDE theme
[15:36] <Riddell> gtk looking ugly is really a gtk problem, we try to work around it but not with great success
[15:36] <rickspencer3> hmm
[15:36] <rickspencer3> it says that it is installed
[15:37] <ScottK> rickspencer3: The appearance section of systemsettings has a section on GTK Styles and Fonts.
[15:37] <ScottK> You want to make sure you have "Use another style ..." selected there.
[15:37] <ScottK> Personally I like qtcurve better.
[15:37] <neversfelde> a good workaround is using qt-curve, even when it is old, I think
[15:37] <neversfelde> :)
[15:38] <rickspencer3> hmm
[15:38] <rickspencer3> ScottK:  it doesn't seem to be working, do I have to restart?
[15:38] <ScottK> BTW, is the Firefox/Thunderbird scrollbar fix question still relevant?
[15:38] <rickspencer3> also, my options are Qt4 and Raliegh
[15:39]  * ScottK isn't sure, but thinks you need to logout/in
[15:39] <Quintasan> Riddell: Couldn't we change default Qt theme to QtCurve and make gtk apps use QtCurve too?
[15:39] <neversfelde> I reinstalled here yesterday and It did not work for me, too
[15:39] <neversfelde> qt-curve is ok
[15:40] <Quintasan> brb
[15:42] <rickspencer3> ok, I'll check it the next time I log in and log out
[15:42] <Riddell> Quintasan: I like to stick to upstream artwork for KDE 4
[15:56] <smarter> +1
[16:02] <seaLne> Riddell: when is 4.2.1 likely to hit jaunty?
[16:02] <Riddell> seaLne: longer than I had hoped, we just came across a hickup
[16:02] <seaLne> ah
[16:03] <Riddell> seaLne: I can't just copy them, I'll upload now and it'll be a few hours compiling
[16:04] <seaLne> np just wondering as i'm continuing to have kded<->dbus problems and was going to reboot at some point
[16:04] <seaLne> sure
[16:14] <nixternal> jjesse_: I do work!
[16:21] <jjesse_> lol
[16:22] <jjesse_> more then i do ;)
[16:24] <jjesse_> is there a better mirror or better site for downloading dialy cd images other then cdimages.ubuntu.com?
[16:24] <smarter> jjesse_: rsync them?
[16:26] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: Apparently there are some Qt 4.4 hacks in Plasma::FrameSvg that need removing for the artifacts to go away
[16:26]  * JontheEchidna will investigate
[16:29] <smarter> JontheEchidna: ask the #plasma guys :)
[16:34] <desja004> wow is kde4.2 a sexy beast
[16:35] <Exilant> yes, it is
[16:35] <Exilant> and almost usable
[16:36] <desja004> i can't believe the improvement
[16:38] <desja004> i'm tempted to install it on my new macbook and not just my dell
[16:47] <Tm_T> Exilant: almost?
[16:47] <Tm_T> desja004: I prefer this 4.3 series
[16:48] <Exilant> Tm_T: well, for me, almost
[16:49] <Tm_T> Exilant: what's wrong with it?
[16:49] <Exilant> some thing might just be jauntys alphaness, though
[16:49] <Exilant> i miss media:/ from kde3
[16:49] <Tm_T> ah
[16:49] <Exilant> and bluetooth:/
[16:50] <Tm_T> Exilant: those are somewhere in KDE svn I believe
[16:50] <Tm_T> other thing how well working
[16:50] <Exilant> but most of all media:/, for my encrypted internal partions i have to resort to command-line fu in kde4
[16:51] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[16:51] <Exilant> most other stuff works well, i love kickoff, the new konsole, session management works a lot faster etc.
[16:52] <Exilant> but if i have trouble accessing my data, it's just almost usable :)
[16:52] <Tm_T> true
[16:53]  * Tm_T waits so he can get herself back to desktop
[16:54] <_Groo_> i've created new packages for k3b for kde4, if anyone is interested in adding them to jaunty ill upload them t my PPA ASAP
[16:59] <Riddell> _Groo_: can they burn DVDs?
[17:01] <_Groo_> Riddell: i only tested cds... but aparently all functions are working like kde3, ive tested data burning and cd audio conversion
[17:01] <Riddell> _Groo_: it was DVDs that I had problems with last I tried, upload to your PPA and I can try again
[17:03] <_Groo_> https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias
[17:03] <_Groo_> im uploading it now via dput, so wait an hour or two
[17:09] <_Groo_> Riddell: ehehe it HAS dvd burning, they merged both cd and dvd data creation into one action
[17:09] <Riddell> doesn't mean it works :)
[17:09] <_Groo_> so if you create a data cd/dvd you just need to insert it..
[17:09] <_Groo_> just burned one.. it works alright
[17:10] <Tm_T> for you atleast (:
[17:10] <_Groo_> meeting, bbl
[17:10] <Tm_T> shame I cannot test it, I don't have dvd burner
[17:24] <Tm_T> jumpy one that son there
[17:37] <rickspencer3> ScottK:  in terms of applying the gtk theme, it worked after I shut down the app and started it again
[17:37] <ScottK> rickspencer3: Great.
[19:47] <Riddell> ~twitter update off to Nigeria tomorrow
[19:47] <kubotu> status updated
[19:47] <Quintasan> Riddell: why? :P
[19:48] <Riddell> got invited to a conference
[19:49] <Quintasan> wow, nice
[19:52] <rgreening> Riddell: im uploading koffice2 to experimental in a few minutes
[19:52] <rgreening> unless you say otherwise
[19:53] <Riddell> rgreening: for jaunty or intrepid?
[19:53] <rgreening> jaunty
[19:53] <rgreening> or if you have a better place?
[19:53] <Riddell> the main archive?
[19:54] <rgreening> sure if you want. want me to mail you the diff/dsc etc...
[19:54] <rgreening> the build is just finishing here
[19:54] <rgreening> shlibs takes ssssssoooooooo long
[19:57] <rgreening> Riddell: ^ ?
[19:58] <rgreening> no response == experimental PPA with ~ppa1 extension.
[19:58] <rgreening> :)
[19:59] <Riddell> rgreening: I don't see a point in -experimental
[19:59] <Riddell> it's beta anyway so it can't get more broken
[19:59] <rgreening> lol
[19:59] <rgreening> well, do you want to upload?
[20:00] <Riddell> rgreening: ok, but put the files on a web server somewhere, don't e-mail
[20:00] <Riddell> I need the .orig.tar.gz too
[20:00] <Riddell> a diff to the current package would be good too
[20:00] <rgreening> if I upload to experimental, then they are there
[20:00] <rgreening> the image is uploaded then, correct
[20:01] <rgreening> I don't have a web site to post stuff to ad-hoc, unfortunately
[20:02] <Riddell> you can put them on ktown
[20:02] <rgreening> really?
[20:02] <Riddell> scp foo bar ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org:
[20:03] <rgreening> didn't realize it was read/write
[20:03] <rgreening> btw.. -devel channel
[20:03] <rgreening> :)
[20:03] <rgreening> if that wa sscrt
[20:03] <Riddell> nothing secret about ktown
[20:04] <rgreening> kk
[20:04] <rgreening> let me update to remove the ~ppa1
[20:07] <rgreening> Riddell: will upload to ~/koffice-jaunty/
[20:11] <rgreening> Riddell: tgz, diff, dsc uploaded. I have to apt-get source the original to get a debdiff. So, a few more mins on that.
[20:22] <rgreening> Riddell: debdiff uploaded
[20:28] <quassel208> oneclick install should kubuntu make
[20:35] <Quintasan> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=hwreport  <-- anyone working on it?
[20:48] <_Sime> who looks after the pykde4 packages?
[20:50] <ScottK> Several of us _Sime.  What's up?
[20:50]  * rgreening hides in fear I broked it
[20:51] <_Sime> small bug, /usr/bin/pykdeuic4 is not executable.
[20:51] <_Sime> or should I say /usr/share/kde4/apps/pykde4/pykdeuic4.py
[20:51] <Quintasan> LOL
[20:51] <Quintasan> thats why I couldn't compile Minirok :#
[20:51] <Quintasan> thanks _Sime :)
[20:52]  * JontheEchidna seems to remember having that problem in the past
[20:52] <rgreening> lol
[20:52] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I'm on the way out the door, would you please fix it.
[20:52] <rgreening> hrmph.. strange
[20:52] <JontheEchidna> Now if only I could remember how it was solved...
[20:53] <_Sime> I was actually using one of my PyKDE project templates with cmake.
[20:53] <_Sime> it looks like I should be the one doing the hiding...
[20:53] <rgreening> I wonder if this is broken in 4.2.1 as well
[20:53] <rgreening> or just 4.2.0
[20:55] <rgreening> vice versa...
[20:55] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: you'll need to make the same fix in intrepid as well.
[20:55] <rgreening> I assume
[20:55] <JontheEchidna> _Sime: so is it broken?'
[20:55] <Quintasan> hmm I wonder how do you set permissions for files, in debian/*.install?
[20:55] <FireRabbit> rgreening: is the packgae source (the diff anyway) for kdebindings 4.2.1 uploaded anywhere?
[20:56] <_Sime> I'm using ppa 4.2.0 packages on 8.10.
[20:56] <rgreening> FireRabbit: it's in main and building
[20:56] <_Sime> the target of the /usr/bin/pykdeuic4 is not executable.
[20:56] <rgreening> couldn't copy direct from the private archive for bizarre reason
[20:56] <_Sime> (symlink)
[20:56] <FireRabbit> ah ok, doesnt show up on the source package page. lemme find the build server page
[20:57] <rgreening> ya
[20:58] <FireRabbit> hm i dont see it there either. maybe its still stuck in a queue
[20:58] <rgreening> could be. Riddell uploaded it earlier.
[20:58] <JontheEchidna> Oh, I was thinking about bug 250285
[20:59] <FireRabbit> ok ill keep an eye out for it. im talking with the debian guy about getting the same fixes in their packages as well.
[21:18] <Quintasan> oh Qt 4.5 final
[21:41] <seele> some one mentioned a kubuntu meeting
[21:41] <seele> what days times are good for people before i make a schedule page?
[21:42] <seele> next week? two weeks? day/night? weekday/weekend?
[21:42] <vorian> Sunday++
[21:42] <vorian> afternoon|evening(EST)
[21:45] <seele> Riddell: when do you get back from nigeria?
[21:45] <seele> vorian: this sunday might be too soon, but checking
[21:46] <vorian> seele: any sunday should work for me
[21:46] <vorian> it doesn't have to bee this one :)
[22:00] <Nightrose> seele: i can't this weekend - need to visit my grandma (likely for the last time)
[22:01] <seele> ok.. looking like next week/weekend then
[22:16] <Riddell> seele: Tuesday morning
[22:23] <seele> Riddell: ok
[22:27] <FireRabbit> Riddell: did kdebindings get uploaded? it doesnt show up on launchpad.
[22:34] <ScottK> Dear PPA gods.  Plz makez my inbox no esplode anymore.
[22:34] <seele> lol
[22:39] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Are you following the "let's just expire all the bugs" thread on -bugs/-qa ML?
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: I might have seen it, but I'm not subscribed to the ML I don't think
[22:43] <ScottK> OK.  Not a big deal.
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> I saw that they want to let it sit for 30 days, re ping, and then after 2 weeks invalidate it
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> or something
[22:44] <ScottK> Yeah even if it's a fine bug, just the reporter didn't answer mail.
[22:44] <ScottK> Can you reproduce (with no attempt to reproduce) --> incomplete, no reply, --> Invalid.
[22:44] <JontheEchidna> my inbox asplode
[22:45] <ScottK> Even though the question is unrelated to is there really a bug.
[22:45] <ScottK> You too.
[22:45] <JontheEchidna> and the window isn't repainting...
[22:46] <JontheEchidna> only when the window is maximized
[22:56]  * smarter just noticed that google docs works with Arora :)
[23:00] <DaSkreech> rgreening: ping
[23:00] <DaSkreech> Quintasan: ping
[23:01] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Jah Rasta fried Rice!
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> aiee
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> more rosetta import emails
[23:33] <rgreening_> DaSkreech: ping
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, after you delete the plasma pixmap cache the artifacts get better
[23:33] <DaSkreech> rgreening_: hi Just got home so I haven't checked the wires other than kubuntu.org 4.2.1 isn't live?
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> No one-pixel gap as far as I can see
[23:34] <JontheEchidna> But the cashew still looks crappy
[23:35] <Tonio_> hi
[23:35] <rgreening> hmm...
[23:35] <rgreening> we need someone to re-score the builds
[23:35] <rgreening> if that's the case
[23:35] <rgreening> potentially
[23:36] <DaSkreech> ah
[23:36] <DaSkreech> someone in #kubuntu just said they have Konqueror 4.2.1
[23:38] <rgreening> lol
[23:38] <rgreening> kdelibs4.2.1 built and it's installed here.
[23:38] <rgreening> it's slowly coming in
[23:38] <rgreening> stupid not being able ot copy builds from the private PPA to main
[23:39] <DaSkreech> so just wait an hour before announcing?
[23:40] <ScottK> We've done announcements before that said some version of "and the packages are still building, so be patiend ...."
[23:41] <rgreening> sounds good to me
[23:41] <rgreening> emphasis "patient"
[23:41] <rgreening> :)
[23:41] <ScottK> Right, with some better speeling.
[23:41] <rgreening> lol
[23:41] <ScottK> Yes, that was on purpose.
[23:41] <rgreening> porpoise?
[23:41] <rgreening> :)
[23:42] <ScottK> Flipper?
[23:43] <DaSkreech> Argh now I'm going to be humming that theme song all day
[23:44] <ScottK> \o/
[23:46] <rgreening> heh.. my job is done...
[23:47] <rgreening> Its good I didn't sing "this is a song that never ends, it goes on and on my friends...". that gets stuck real good.
[23:48] <ScottK> FSVO good, yes.
[23:50] <rgreening> heh
[23:50] <smarter> JontheEchidna: I don't seem to have that kind of issues here
[23:50] <rgreening> ScottK: anyone around that can rescore the builds?
[23:51] <rgreening> NCommander said he would, butr he's not around.
[23:51] <ScottK> NCommander said he'd be in and out.
[23:51] <ScottK> He's on business travel,
[23:51] <vorian> did something need rebuilt?
[23:51] <rgreening> build system needs an infusion of "boot to the head" to make it move faster
[23:53] <vorian> in soviet russia, build system boot's you in the head
[23:54] <DaSkreech> ScottK: Damn you