[02:31] <CIA-3> wubi: Agostino Russo * r80 trunk/ (23 files in 9 dirs): Completed gettext support
[02:32] <CIA-3> wubi: Agostino Russo * r81 trunk/ (43 files in 2 dirs): Merged old translations
[03:07] <CIA-3> wubi: Agostino Russo * r82 trunk/ (debian/changelog src/wubi/frontends/win32/progress_page.py): Use previous distro name in strings during uninstallation progress
[10:19] <CIA-3> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1057 ubuntu/debian/changelog: No-change rebuild to pick up new components.
[10:25] <CIA-3> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1058 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu23
[10:27] <cjwatson> mpt: as well as loop-mounting the ISO (which could be done using fuseiso too), writing to the target USB stick requires privileges greater than that given to an ordinary user
[10:27] <cjwatson> superm1: I'm worried that 10 seconds is too short; X is sometimes really slow
[10:28] <cjwatson> superm1: how about, instead, we add something to allow it not to even try X, which you could set when you don't have a monitor connected?
[11:50] <CIA-3> partman-base: cjwatson * r136 ubuntu/ (74 files in 6 dirs): merge from Debian 129
[11:50] <ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Debian: HTTP Error 404: No such bug (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=129;mbox=yes)
[11:53] <CIA-3> partman-base: cjwatson * r137 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 129ubuntu1
[12:14] <CIA-3> oem-config: cjwatson * r625 trunk/debian/oem-config.install: remove unnecessary absolute paths
[12:47] <CIA-3> partman-lvm: cjwatson * r1209 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog lib/lvm-base.sh):
[12:47] <CIA-3> partman-lvm: The LVM tools seem to be a bit racy. Add some 'update-dev --settle'
[12:47] <CIA-3> partman-lvm: calls after various volume group operations to try to make things a
[12:47] <CIA-3> partman-lvm: little more synchronous.
[12:50] <CIA-3> partman-lvm: cjwatson * r1210 ubuntu/debian/control: Maintainer and Vcs-Bzr for Ubuntu
[12:51] <CIA-3> partman-lvm: cjwatson * r1211 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 65ubuntu1
[13:54] <mpt> cjwatson, I don't need to authenticate when copying other files to the USB stick. Is there something special about the files usb-creator copies?
[13:57] <cjwatson> mpt: yes - when you copy files in other ways you're going through the filesystem layer, which has been explicitly told to allow access to ordinary users. usb-creator also has to do things like install a bootloader on the stick, which is outside that
[13:58] <cjwatson> mpt: and indeed it often formats the device as well
[13:58] <mpt> ok
[13:59] <cjwatson> that said I'd prefer usb-creator to escalate privileges just for the bits it needs rather than for the whole UI
[14:01] <mpt> agreed
[14:07] <evand> I have policykit support on my long-term todo list
[15:00] <mark> cjwatson: thanks, you rock ;)
[15:17] <cjwatson> mark: if you can test on jaunty, that'd be great - I had no way to test it myself
[15:17] <cjwatson> mark: I just sent a patch to grub2 upstream, tested just as little
[15:17] <mark> hmm
[15:17] <mark> or I try to apply that patch to grub in hardy perhaps
[15:17] <mark> because I need it in there anyhow :)
[15:17] <cjwatson> mm, maybe, it'll probably take some work
[15:18] <mark> is this something I could outsource to our canonical on our support contract? >;-)
[15:19] <mark> probably not, many disk machines just not yet supported
[15:19] <cjwatson> um, don't know, you could always ask :)
[15:19] <mark> I'll look at it soon
[15:20] <cjwatson> the patch is very small if you ignore the pile of stuff to add checking that we don't overflow the BIOS disk limit
[15:20] <mark> right
[15:20] <cjwatson> grub2 seems to do that completely differently so I skipped that check there
[15:20] <cjwatson> if you have 128 disks or fewer then that part won't be a problem for you
[15:20] <mark> just 48 now ;)
[15:21] <cjwatson> ok, should be fine
[15:21] <mark> if you have to rack them you'll agree that it's enough ;)
[15:21] <cjwatson> I can only imagine :)
[15:31] <mark> hmm it applied cleanly
[16:00] <cjwatson> lucky you :)
[16:00] <mark> indeed :)
[16:01] <Akkernight_> Hello. How can I see if my Ubuntu is 64bit
[16:03] <cjwatson> Akkernight_: this would be better asked on #ubuntu
[16:03] <Akkernight_> I know, I\ve tried for ages to join that channel, just can\t find it
[16:03] <Akkernight_> well, now it worked
[16:06] <mark> Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed.
[16:06] <mark> alas
[16:07] <superm1> cjwatson, from what i was seeing, it was starting up in < 1 second.  let me ping bryce and see if he's got some ideas on how to try to start X w/o a monitor connected
[16:07] <superm1> and even from slower media i was seeing about 3-4 seconds
[16:07] <cjwatson> superm1: sure, I'm just unwilling to believe that that's true everywhere, given the general state of ... well, hardware
[16:08] <superm1> right
[16:08] <cjwatson> superm1: I would rather be conservative in ubiquity-dm, to avoid creating issues for other people; and give you a way to solve your problem
[16:08] <mark> cjwatson: I see 48 drives in /target/boot/grub/device.map now
[16:08] <mark> however hd0, or /dev/sda is not bootable on this box :(
[16:09] <cjwatson> mark: so is that really an issue with lots of drives?
[16:09] <cjwatson> I wouldn't expect bootability of /dev/sda to be affected by how many drives are attached
[16:09] <mark> no
[16:09] <mark> that is true
[16:11] <mark> how does it determine which drives it needs to install on?
[16:16] <cjwatson> mark: grub-installer tells grub-install (beware confusing naming) what to do; it should be preseedable
[16:17] <mark> ok
[16:19] <mark> indeed
[16:33] <CIA-3> hw-detect: cjwatson * r109 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.71ubuntu5
[16:57] <mark> # chroot /target grub-install  --no-floppy  "(hd24)"
[16:57] <mark> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[16:57] <mark> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[16:57] <mark> any clues? :)
[16:59] <cjwatson> would need an strace, I think
[17:00]  * mark installs strace
[17:00] <CIA-3> partman-auto-lvm: cjwatson * r219 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 32ubuntu5
[17:10] <mark> I'm almost inclined to plug in a $5 USB stick to boot from ;)
[17:13] <CIA-3> ubiquity: superm1 * r3075 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog):
[17:13] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Revert last change to switch ubiquity-dm to declare a failed X server startup in 10 seconds.
[17:13] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Add in support to poll() the process instead and look for bad return codes after each wakup.
[17:13] <CIA-3> ubiquity: If one is found before the 60 seconds is up, declare the X server failed to start.
[17:21] <mark> dump (hd24)/boot/grub/stage1 /tmp/grubtest
[17:21] <mark> Error 12: Invalid device requested
[17:24] <mark> hmm
[17:24] <mark> it only seems to want hd0-7
[17:24] <mark> from hd8 onwards it says this error
[17:43] <mark> but hmm
[17:43] <mark> Solaris uses grub too
[17:47] <cjwatson> for some reason it seems to check (current_drive & 0xFFFFFF7F) < 8
[17:47] <cjwatson> stage2/disk_io.c:sane_partition
[17:47] <mark> well spotted
[17:47] <cjwatson> I wonder if I have any hope of figuring out why
[17:52] <mark> I guess I'm just gonna raise it and see ;)
[17:53] <cjwatson> http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-grub@gnu.org/msg00525.html
[17:53] <cjwatson> seems to be the thread that caused this to be introduced
[17:57] <davmor2> evand: when is the new coloured map going into ubiquity?
[18:07] <mark> but no explanation for that magic value
[18:16] <cjwatson> something to do with floppies by the looks of things
[18:16] <cjwatson> I'll scratch my head about it a bit and see if I can work something out
[18:16] <cjwatson> in the meantime your workaround is probably to change that function
[18:17] <mark> yes, I'll do that, it'll at least tell us something
[18:17] <mark> "does grub crash and die horribly if you do that"
[18:18] <mark> "is this the last blocker"
[18:25] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1401 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.73ubuntu16
[18:26] <CIA-3> oem-config: cjwatson * r626 trunk/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup 1.28ubuntu6.
[18:27] <CIA-3> oem-config: cjwatson * r627 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.54.8
[18:30] <CIA-3> clock-setup: cjwatson * r204 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.97ubuntu2
[18:31] <CIA-3> rootskel: cjwatson * r339 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.73ubuntu2
[18:32] <CIA-3> partman-auto-loop: cjwatson * r48 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0ubuntu16
[18:53] <mark> hmm, next question...
[18:53] <mark> Mar  4 18:29:45 debconf: --> SET grub-installer/bootdev (hd24)
[18:53] <mark> Mar  4 18:44:52 grub-installer: (hd24)^I/dev/sdy
[18:53] <mark> and yet:
[18:53] <mark> Mar  4 18:44:47 debconf: --> SUBST grub-installer/progress/step_install_loader BOOTDEV (hd0)
[18:53] <mark> Mar  4 18:44:47 debconf: Adding [BOOTDEV] -> [(hd0)]
[18:53] <mark> should that be /dev/sdy perhaps?
[18:53] <mark> worth a try...
[21:10] <Wellark> just installed kubuntu jaunty alpha5 on my laptop.. long story short: installer overrided my MBR and TrueCrypt bootloader with it as it didn't bother to ask me where I want GRUB to be installed. here's some log from #ubuntu+1: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/126430/
[21:11] <Wellark> I'm thinking this happened because the installer failed to detect the other OS' and thought that it's OK to mess freely with the MBR
[21:12] <Wellark> well, alpha happens :)
[21:18] <Wellark> I a spare boot and crypt/lvm-partition on the laptop so I'm able to do testing if needed
[21:18] <charlie-tca> Wellark: could you file a bug on that
[21:19] <charlie-tca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[21:19] <Wellark> against jaunty debian-installer?
[21:20] <charlie-tca> yes
[21:20] <charlie-tca> please
[21:20] <charlie-tca> Keeps it from getting lost
[21:20] <Wellark> sure
[21:20] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[21:28] <Wellark> should I tag it with "jaunty" or something?
[21:29] <Wellark> well, here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/337957
[21:29] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 337957 in debian-installer "installer doesn't ask where to install GRUB and overwrites MBR which contains TrueCrypt Bootloader" [Undecided,New]
[21:29] <Wellark> sorry for crappy report, but I don't have time right now to make it better
[21:30] <Wellark> I might edit it a bit some later time
[21:30] <charlie-tca> If you still have it up, the logs would help.
[21:31] <Wellark> it's down already...
[21:31] <Wellark> but I could run the installer again tomorrow or so
[21:32] <charlie-tca> okay. There is a selection to save the logs, or if it completes, they will be in /var/log/install
[21:32] <charlie-tca> I tagged it
[21:33] <Wellark> I still have the installation present.. I will try to get to the log, but as soon my wife gets off the phone I have to quit for the day ;)
[21:34] <charlie-tca> no problem
[21:44] <Wellark> ok. I got the log directory
[21:44] <Wellark> is it OK to attach tar.gz to the bug report?
[21:45] <Wellark> charlie-tca: ?
[21:45] <charlie-tca> yes
[21:45] <charlie-tca> Preferred format is unzipped
[21:45] <charlie-tca> or untarred
[21:45] <charlie-tca> but, yes, that is okay
[21:48] <Wellark> ok. attached.
[21:49] <Wellark> thanks! now I'm going to dedicate the rest of the night to my wife. cu
[21:49] <charlie-tca> Have fun.!
[23:37] <xivulon> anyone that wants to double check the English strings in wubi?
[23:46] <CIA-3> wubi: Agostino Russo * r83 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Provide an option to hide wubi installation in CD menu (LP: #338015)