[00:21] <goshawk> hi
[00:21] <goshawk> i was looking at the armel support
[00:22] <goshawk> what are the differencies between ixp4xx and versatile images?
[01:00] <EL> goshawk: I think you can check their config file in kernel.
[01:02] <EL> For original kernel source, they are in arch/arm/configs
[01:04] <EL> For debian packed source, they are in debian/config/armel
[01:09] <EL> Question: Is there any way to compile one kernel but all kinds of them by debuild with ubuntu's kerenl source pack?
[01:09] <goshawk> thx
[01:09] <EL> :)
[01:09] <goshawk> but
[01:10] <goshawk> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/jaunty/alpha-5/
[01:10] <goshawk> you don't have any config file here
[01:10] <goshawk> there are just netinst
[01:11] <goshawk> and you don't know which one to get
[01:17] <EL> I means you need a kernel source code to check what's difference bewteen them.
[01:19] <goshawk> no sources in this case :)
[01:19] <EL> git clone git://zinc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git
[01:21] <EL> Q2: How to get source code by git but .git dir ? like cvs release
[01:23] <goshawk> i don't know, i don't like git, i use hg :) i'm installing it right now
[01:25] <goshawk> what? 990000 objects?
[01:25] <goshawk> what am i downloading?
[01:28] <goshawk> i've to go
[01:28] <goshawk> EL: thanks for you help :)
[02:51] <EL> Q3: Is ubuntu 0904 support EXT4 when installing?
[06:59] <amitk> EL: yes, it support ext4 as an _option_, not default
[07:00] <EL> see, thanks :)
[07:01] <EL> I got problem when I change QEMU's -m option to more ram size
[07:01] <EL> QEMU will show nothing.
[07:02] <EL> a workable ram size setting is 256M
[07:02] <EL> It's too small to run ubuntu-desktop image.
[07:03] <EL> Any suggection?
[07:04] <amitk> 256M should be enough, seems to work for me for versatile images
[07:04] <EL> 384M, 512M fail. I also added kernel parameter "mem=MYRAM_SIZE".
[07:05] <EL> I can see the login screen.
[07:05] <EL> but I can't login successfully
[07:06] <EL> By the way, I ran my ubuntu on VMWare on WinXP. :p
[07:07] <EL> Basically, I think it should be ok, when I changed ram-size. What's wrong????
[07:08] <amitk> can't say
[07:09] <EL> ok :)
[07:09] <amitk> I use this cmdline: qemu-system-arm \ -M versatilepb \ -kernel $KERNEL \ -hda jaunty-armel.img \ -append "root=/dev/sda rw console=ttyAMA0,115200n8" \ -m 256M -smb /share \ -serial  mon:telnet::4446,server,nowait
[07:10] <EL> Another question, How to use git to get source but .git like CVS release?
[07:13] <EL> my cmdline: qemu-system-arm -k en-us -M versatilepb -kernel ./vmlinuz-2.6.28-versatile -hda ud.img -m 256M -append "root=/dev/sda rw"
[07:13] <amitk> EL: I don't follow the question. you can use 'git clone <git repo>'
[07:14] <EL> I see
[07:14] <EL> "git clone" will get source + git's control data.
[07:15] <EL> but I just want source.
[07:16] <EL> Maybe git didn't implement the function I want. :p
[07:16] <amitk> i guess. Just clone and then delete .git
[07:17] <EL> Baically, I want to download the source quickly.
[07:17] <EL> anyway, thank you.
[07:22] <EL> amitk: Do you know how to build single kernel image by debuild with ubuntu's source pack
[07:23] <amitk> EL: debian/rules binary-versatile inside Qemu
[07:24] <amitk> replace versatile by the flavour you want
[07:25] <EL> Is it possible to build but pack them to deb?
[07:25] <amitk> EL: above commaned will do that
[07:34] <EL> see
[08:19] <suihkulokki> vnc4 -dep-wait appears to be incorrect in ubuntu/armel
[08:23] <EL> I can login ubuntu-desktop with my 256M ram, when I wait more time with bigger patience. :)
[08:23] <EL> It's slow~
[08:24] <EL> :)
[09:02] <lool> suihkulokki: Thanks, gave it back
[09:35] <lool> suihkulokki: Hmm it failed to build in the same way and has the dep wait again
[09:35] <lool> I can't find mesa-swx11-source in my packages, it seems it was dropped a while ago
[09:35] <lool> It's not in intrepid and jaunty
[09:39] <suihkulokki> I didn't say giving back is the proper fix :P
[09:39] <suihkulokki> lool: as you noticed, dep-wait is incorrect as there is no mesa-swx11-source
[09:40] <lool> suihkulokki: Well there's a bdep on it
[09:40] <lool> For some reason it was dropped from mesa
[09:43] <lool> Right, it was dropped in experimental which we pulled
[10:04] <EL> ARM's versatile don't support more than 256mb memory.
[10:05] <EL> Someone had make a patch: http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4818&sid=f4a881881e7a1f5ef9f64a50188a24da
[10:06] <EL> Is there any other arm kernel that can support more RAM?
[10:29] <EL> qemu-0.10.0 is released today!
[10:34] <lool> suihkulokki: Needs a merge from Debian; vnc4 doesn't bdep on this -source in Debian
[10:34] <lool> suihkulokki: bug #338148
[10:34]  * lool slaps bugbot