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crashsystemshttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/180457/comments/700:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 180457 in totem "totem-gstreamer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Invalid]00:00
anderskWhere should I direct requests to rebuild packages for the python 2.6 transition, such as bug 338022 and bug 338024?00:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 338022 in polybori "python-polybori fails to install in Jaunty (python 2.6 transition)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33802200:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 338024 in python-processing "python-processing fails to install in Jaunty (python 2.6 transition)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33802400:01
crashsystemsAlso, I do believe that a bug I reported earlier today is related to Python 2.6 breakage. #33786300:02
crashsystemssince ubottu did not seem to like that, the link is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pywebkitgtk/+bug/33786300:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 337863 in pywebkitgtk "python-webkitgtk depends on a version of python earlier than 2.6" [Undecided,New]00:03
gesercrashsystems: it's being worked to transition pywebkitgtk to python2.600:28
crashsystemsok, cool00:28
anderskWow, 338024 was fixed 22 minutes after I reported it!  How can I make that happen to bug 338022?  :-)00:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 338022 in polybori "python-polybori fails to install in Jaunty (python 2.6 transition)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33802200:29
geserandersk: give me some minutes :)00:31
andolgeser: How do you want those minutes transfered? :-)00:33
anderskgeser: So there are over 200 packages that have a broken dependency on python < 2.6.  Are these going to be automatically rebuilt eventually, or do bugs need to be filed on all of them?01:00
anderskaptitude search '~S~VCANDIDATE~DB^python$'01:00
crashsystemsI thought there was going to be an automatic rebuild01:01
james_wandersk: we don't need bugs for them all01:01
james_w"automatic" in the sense of "manual", yes01:01
james_wperhaps scripted for some01:01
geserandersk: if "automatically" == "a developer looks at them" then hopefully yes, we are aware of the breakage caused by the python 2.6 transition and working on fixing it01:01
geserbut as you mentioned there are still over 200 packages left so it will take some time01:02
anderskOkay, great.01:02
geseronce this batch is done the packages depending on python2.5 are next01:02
crashsystemsare there any plans for Python 3.0, perhaps in 9.10?01:02
james_wheh01:03
james_wit is in 9.0401:03
crashsystems9.10 + 3?01:03
james_wit's never really going to be default as such though01:03
gesercrashsystems: that will be an even bigger transition01:03
james_wit will be more a sense of removing python 201:04
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vbgunzcan someone help me troubleshoot a suspend to disk failure? not sure wheres its screwing up bad at but one thing for sure, it doesn't work :(01:40
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andresmujicahmm an old bug that was solved by dapper, was reintroduced again sometime ago.. it seems that the patch never made it to debian and with some resync it appeared again.. should i open a new bug or reopen the original one??02:47
macoandresmujica: id reopen the old one. i recall someone saying that a bug going from "fix released" to open again was something to worry about because it's a regression02:51
macowas it reintroduced in intrepid or jaunty? if intrepid, tag regression-release and if jaunty regression-potential ...i think02:52
andresmujicathat's the problem it seem it was somewhere around hardy...02:52
andresmujicai'll reopen the old one, lucky me that pitti was the one who solved before.. so i hope it solves it again :=)02:53
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andresmujicaasac, aut?03:00
andresmujicaasac: can you help me with bug #317860 i tried with Wellark without luck, but maybe you can help me.. all the bugs include the corresponding patch..03:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 317860 in mobile-broadband-provider-info "Request to upgrade to latest SVN 3G profiles" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31786003:02
andresmujicait would be great if those patches can be uploaded so Jaunty gets an almost complete 3g provider db03:03
LaibschI just opened bug 338079 which describes a major problem we seem to be having in going for python 2.6 in Jaunty03:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 338079 in python-4suite "[Jaunty] packages incompatible with python 2.6" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33807903:25
Laibscha number of packages depend on python-4suite packages03:26
Laibschbut python-4suite seems to not build with 2.6 and it is not clear if anybody is willing to fix it03:26
andresmujicayou must tag it like python-2-603:27
andresmujicaand subscribe the python team03:27
andresmujicaand probably would be better to look for the metabug..03:28
andresmujicadon't know if it exist or not.. but that bug is already reported -several times-03:28
Laibschcertainly not for python-4suite-xml03:51
LaibschThat package has only 2 bugs03:51
Laibschif you know what needs to be changed to put it on the radar, maybe you can make the changes?03:51
LaibschI guess that makes more sense than me doing it, I did what I thought was appropriate03:52
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YoBoYgood morning06:40
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pedro_Hey folks, today is hug day and there's still a good quantity of bugs waiting to be triaged, feel free to grab any of them https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2009030512:58
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YoBoYsomeone on 8.04 can see if the bug 239426 is reproductible?14:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 239426 in flashplugin-nonfree "some text not displayed in flash applets - fonts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23942614:26
bddebianBoo15:08
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bliqhello, anybody ?   I am here for the first time and I have a bug related question16:40
charlie-tca!anybody16:41
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?16:41
savvasbliq: just ask, someone will reply :)16:41
bliqok16:41
bliqIt is a quite long time, that I filled a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/326667  and nobody seems to care  ... i even wrote the 'possible' solution ...16:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 326667 in acpid "pressing (laptop) power button should show shutdown dialog on kde4" [Undecided,New]16:43
bliqi hoped it gets fixed to jaunty , but this way not even in koala16:44
YoBoYbliq: have you tried with the last Alpha ?16:45
bliqwell, I submitted in alpha 3 (if i do remember)  , then changed on my machine because i wanted this funcionality. I do not know how to 'get what is currently in alpha' ...should i delete the file and reinstall acpid package ?16:48
YoBoYwhat is your actual version?16:50
bliqcurrent jaunty, i update almost everyday16:50
bliqkubuntu16:50
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jgoguenI've got 3 bugs all about empty windows appearing when using flashplugin-nonfree. Bug 225197 was first but has the least done, bug 226471 has some work done but nothing beyond triaging and confirming that it works after reinstall of flashplugin-nonfree, and bug 262693 is where it seems most of the work was done.  Would it be correct to mark the first two bugs duplicates of the third in this case?17:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 225197 in flashplugin-nonfree "Empty window appears" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22519717:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 226471 in nspluginwrapper "untitled popup window" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22647117:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 262693 in nspluginwrapper "Flash not working: Intrepid, 2.6.27, FF3" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26269317:30
pedro_jgoguen: second one seems to be the same as the last one and solved by the same way, feel free to mark it as dup, but i'm not sure about the first one17:34
pedro_jgoguen: ah you already asked for confirmation there, nice, i was about to tell you that ;-)17:35
pedro_jgoguen: great work on the hug day btw ;-)17:35
* pedro_ hugs jgoguen17:35
jgoguenpedro_: thanks :)17:35
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mcashi18:24
mcasbug #33749018:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 337490 in libopensync-plugin-python "package opensync-module-python None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/opensync-module-python.list] failed to install/upgrade: tentata sovrascrittura di `/usr/lib/opensync/plugins/python_module.so', che si trova anche nel pacchetto libopensync-plugin-python" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33749018:24
mcasi think this bug has to be closed because the package is from a ppa18:25
mcasi am right?18:25
charlie-tcaI don't think so. PPA's are often given out for testing18:26
charlie-tcaIt tells developers if the bug is fixed before the package is released18:26
mcasbut it is not a official repo18:26
charlie-tcaOften, the devel will tell a reporter to check a package in a PPA and report a new bug against any issues18:27
charlie-tcaI'm looking for people to report against Xfce 4.6 from https://launchpad.net/~jerome-guelfucci/+archive/ppa18:29
Awsoonnbefore I report a but, is there any known issues with apport?18:29
charlie-tcaand the bugs will be reported upstream!18:29
bdmurrayBut a ppa is not an "Ubuntu" package, actually I don't think apport should (it might be fixed now) allow these to be reported.18:29
charlie-tcaI agree. Apport should not allow them.18:29
charlie-tcaI have asked to be subscribed to the bugs against that ppa18:30
bdmurrayIt might be fixed in Jaunty, I'll have a look.18:30
charlie-tcaso I can handle them18:30
charlie-tcaBut, the fact it is a PPA should not invalidate the bug18:30
bdmurrayHowever, the bug doesn't belong about Ubuntu necessarily.18:31
charlie-tcaNo, it should be against the PPA package, shouldn't it?18:32
bdmurrayPerhaps but that capacity doesn't exist afaik.18:32
charlie-tcaAlthough, I don't know the reporter would necessarily know to add the package, either18:32
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bdmurraycharlie-tca: there is no other place for it though18:36
AwsoonnI thought I saw something on the planet recently about some newfangled suspend/resume automated testing script, Anyone have a link to that article?18:37
charlie-tcaPerhaps asking for more information, like "did someone ask you to use the PPA" or a way to tag it back to the ppa is needed18:37
charlie-tcaI would hope that whoever put the thing in PPA would be looking for some kind of feedback?18:38
charlie-tcabdmurray: what is the right answer?18:39
bdmurraycharlie-tca: I don't think there is a right answer yet18:41
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bdmurrayWell, leaving the bug open seems like the right thing however maybe it should be tagged ppa or identified in another way as applying to a ppa package.18:54
charlie-tcaThank you. That's all I ask for19:05
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maxbcharlie-tca: Surely that bug should be invalidated. It's not a bug in ubuntu.19:30
charlie-tca<bdmurray> Well, leaving the bug open seems like the right thing however maybe it should be tagged ppa or identified in another way as applying to a ppa package.19:31
charlie-tcaJust because it is a ppa is not reason to close it19:31
maxbWell, it's a reason to close the bugtask relating to Ubuntu itself19:32
charlie-tcawhat package are you going to change it too?19:32
maxbThere'd need to be a launchpad project/distro record for the PPA19:33
bdmurraymaxb: part of the reaseon for keeping it open is that there's nowhere else for it to go and invalidating it would make it harder to find19:33
charlie-tcaand which reporters will know to open it and how to do it?19:33
maxbBut is there any action that needs to be taken in Ubuntu relating to this bug?19:34
bdmurrayNo there isn't19:35
maxbThen isn't leaving it open just as wrong as filing a bug about a ppa packaging in the project's upstream bugtracker?19:35
charlie-tcaThat is not necessarily wrong either. For Xfce 4.6 in the ppa, we will be filing the bugs upstream19:37
maxbYes, but not concerning bugs relating to the debianization, surely?19:38
charlie-tcaI won't be.19:38
bdmurrayI agree that the bug report doesn't belong against Ubuntu but there is nowhere else for it to go.  So I think keeping open but identifying it is the less of two bad things.19:38
charlie-tcaWhy must every open bug have to be closed, incomplete, or other action? Maybe it is okay to leave it openj19:39
mr_pouitXfce 4.6 packages from jeromeg's ppa are backports from the jaunty ones, so if there is a packaging bug, it'll be present on jaunty as well...19:39
charlie-tcaBut if the ppa bug is closed before we get to it, it is much more work19:39
maxbbdmurray:  I disagree strongly. That's like filing a bug on arbitrary packaging flaws in third party packagings in an upstream's bugtracker. upstream would be rightly annoyed.19:40
bdmurrayI think this would be a useful discussion to have with a wider audience perhaps on the bugsquad or devel-discuss mailing list.  There is no clear policy on what to do about PPA bug reports and there should be.19:41
charlie-tcaI'll start that later today, then.19:42
bdmurraycharlie-tca: great, thanks!19:42
charlie-tcanp, I just don't want a valid bug invalidated just for being ppa19:42
bdmurraywell, the might bug might very well not affect the Ubuntu version of the package19:43
bdmurrayThere are arguements both ways19:43
charlie-tcacorrect. If it is invalid, it should be closed19:43
charlie-tcabbl19:44
BrunoXLamberthello20:23
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rippsDoes anybody know if it's possible to add my PPA key to pbuilder? I sometimes use my ppa to store packages development packages that aren't in Jaunty.20:52
maxbripps: Yes, it's entirely possible.20:54
rippsmaxb: any clue how to do it?20:55
rippsI already have my PPA setup as OTHERMIRROR, so I need is pbuilder to have the key.20:55
maxbWell, you've got two options, either add the key persistently to your basetgz, or reinject it every build via a pbuilder hook script.20:56
hggdh(late, but anyways) PPA bugs should be accepted, as long as it is clear the bug will be worked on by the PPA responsible party20:56
maxbActually OTHERMIRROR gets saved into the basetgz sources.list anyway, so I'd just do something like20:57
maxbsudo pbuilder execute --save-after-execute "apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recy-key HEXKEYID"20:57
maxb*recv-key20:57
rippsmaxb: do I put --overide-config after that? or is there some way to add that to my .pbuilderrc?20:59
maxbIIUC --override-config is only relevant to "update"20:59
maxbIt basically means "redo some of the configuration file creation that happens during a create" (AFAIK)21:00
maxbIf you wanted the key automatically added to newly created basetgz-es, you would need to do it via a pbuilder hook21:00
rippsmaxb: Error: Unknown option [--save-after-execute] was specified21:01
maxbTo do that you'd put something like HOOKDIR=$HOME/.pbuilderhooks in your .pbuilderrc, create the directory and create (I think) a G hook21:02
maxboh, apparently it's just --save-after-exec21:02
rippsCommand line parameter [apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-key ######] does not exist  (I  hid the hexkey)21:03
maxbripps: You realize that HEXKEYID is supposed to be the public one, yes?21:04
maxb:-)21:04
rippsdoes it matter?21:04
rippsCommand line parameter [apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-key EEB23232] does not exist21:04
maxbSo hiding it's pointless21:04
maxboh, whoops, I've misunderstood what execute does. It runs a script, not a command.21:05
maxbSo either you'd have to put the apt-key command in a minimal shell-script, or "sudo pbuilder login --save-after-login" and type the apt-key command inside the session21:06
rippswhat exactly does pbuilderrc do? is it a script that is run within the pbuilder environment?21:07
maxbNo, it's a config file for pbuilder21:08
rippsso, there's no way for pbuilder to run the apt-key command, by adding something to my .pbuilderrc21:09
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rippsI just ran the apt-key command using pbuilder login method, we'll see if that works now.21:10
rippsWill I have to do this everytime I decide to wipe and renew my pbuilder base?21:10
maxbOf course - all you just did was within your pbuilder base, after all21:11
maxbI did mention the option of defining a hookdir and adding a hook21:11
rippssound kinda complicated, and I don't even understand what hooks are. So this will have to work for now.21:11
rippsI'm going to read up on hooks in the pbuilder wiki, and see if I can use it.21:13
rippsOkay, I understand what hooks are, there scripts that run in the pbuilder environment. I've made a script to install apt keys, but I'm not sure what to name it so that it executes at the correct time.21:22
maxbripps: When do you want it to run? At "pbuilder create"? That's a G hook.21:30
maxbOr just before every build? That's a D hook21:30
rippshmm.. since I already have the key in the environment, I guess on create, for when I remake the enviroment.21:30
rippsSo... G90aptkey21:31
rippsI've been reading up on using pbuider with COW to speed up startup, how do I implement that with the pdebuild command?21:33
maxbI just have PDEBUILD_PBUILDER=cowbuilder in my .pbuilderrc21:34
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rippscool, thanks21:38
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